Published Jan. 24, 2025, 9:01 a.m.
9am Off the Grid - Bug Out Bags with Dr. David Kent, Ralph the IT Guy, Karen the Riveter and Shawn Starry! What do to become independent, or when the power grid goes down. Also news and views on what's going on in the world Shawn Starry - Panhandle Documentary and Author of several books. We will be discussing survival techniques if domestic terrorism occurs or in a wartime scenario. Other subjects Texas wildfire DEW Directed Energy Weapons -Freedom Garden Club Podcast 10am Dr Andrew Huff - Kennedy appointed HHS Administrator and Assistant Secretary of the Administration of Strategic Preparedness and Response - Chemical and Biological Weapons. The day that Dr. Andrew G. Huff left his senior scientist and vice president role at EcoHealth Alliance was one of the happiest days of his life due to the corruption he had witnessed at the organization. However, he never thought working there would be of any great consequence to the future. He was wrong. Because, as an EcoHealth Alliance insider, Dr. Huff had had a ringside seat to one of the biggest cover-ups in history. "The Truth about Wuhan" contains new research and a breakdown of how and why the development of COVID-19 in the United States and China was supported by the US government to collect intelligence on laboratories in China. Dr. Huff, an expert in the fields of bioterrorism and bio warfare, is a whistleblower who will show why the reasons the lab leak was covered up are incorrect. He worked on the classified research side of the program as a US government scientist. He knows the real how and why COVID-19 emerged. Besides exposing the conspiracy and cover-up, Dr. Huff also puts forth policy solutions and recommendations to prevent a lab leak virus from plaguing the world again. "The Truth about Wuhan" simply explains the complexity of the system that led to COVID-19’s emergence; how the medical industrial complex grew and became entrenched in gain of function work after 9/11; why EcoHealth Alliance was the (almost) perfect intelligence collection cover; the policy actions and decision-making process as to why the United States government engaged in the COVID cover-up; how and why the United States swapped biotechnology with China and biomedical corporations; and the incentives for each of the actors or governments to engage and coordinate a global cover-up of COVID-19 origins. "The Truth about Wuhan" also shows how and why Dr. Anthony Fauci is intricately involved in the COVID cover-up; how scientists like EcoHealth Alliance president and CEO Dr. Peter Daszak rose to power and used their influence to corrupt science and the COVID origin investigation; and how the intelligence community likely orchestrated the cover-up with Dr. Anthony Fauci. Dr. Huff also provides personal harrowing accounts of how the US government waged a psychological operation against him to prevent him from speaking out. COVID-19 is the biggest lie, scandal, and intelligence failure in US history, and Dr. Andrew G. Huff is stepping out of the shadows to share his insider story about this failure that led to millions of deaths around the world. https://andrewhuff.com/books/ X/Twitter: https://x.com/i/broadcasts/1DXxydqwZrvJM Rumble: https://rumble.com/v6cwcvd-bnn-brandenburg-news-network-1242025-off-the-grid-and-dr-andrew-huff.html https://rumble.com/v6cwdpd-bnn-brandenburg-news-network-1242025-off-the-grid-and-dr-andrew-huff.html Odysee: https://odysee.com/@BrandenburgNewsNetwork:d/bnn-2025-01-24-off-the-grid-and-dr-andrew-huff:a https://Live.BrandenburgNewsNetwork.com BrandenburgNewsNetwork.com Guests: Donna Brandenburg, Dr David Kent, Ralph the IT Guy, Karen the Riveter, Shawn Starry, DR Andrew Huff
Good morning and welcome to Brandenburg News Network. I am Donna Brandenburg and it is the twenty fourth day of January twenty twenty five. Still getting used to the date here and welcome back. Man, I had like nine days off and it was just absolutely crazy how much was going on there. And we're going to talk about some of the things that were going on in D.C. because nothing and I mean nothing is what it appears there. It is crazy. It is chaotic. You can definitely see that this is a foreign land instead of part of the United States. I was kind of involved a little bit with the release of the hostages or the prisoners in Michigan here, the J-Sixers, as well as being in contact with people from D.C. And the fact that these arrogant pukes in D.C., the swamp rats, actually defied President Trump's orders, too, and said, no, we're just not going to do that. Why? Because of foreign land. There were so many good things that happened, though, and the role of good things just keeps getting better. However, I think we're in a time where we're dragging this out into the light and we need to talk about this we need to talk about the hard questions the hard subjects that that need to be addressed as our nation as one nation under god not all this fractured nonsense out there but we're going to be talking about that this morning so this morning we start out with off the grid with the with the normal uh cast and crew of merry men and women who don't care if the grid go down because we're prepared that would be sean starry karen riveter Dr. David Kent and Ralph, the IT guy. After that, we're going to have on Dr. Andrew Huff. who is recently appointed by RFK Jr. for a position in HHS. I think this is going to be really interesting because part of his job is both chemical and biological weapon preparedness. So it kind of like flew, you know, folded in together, which is kind of cool because I didn't really plan it that way. It just sort of worked out that way. And I'm going to invite my friends on right now to say hi to y'all. And we're going to be talking about lots of things. How's everybody doing? Good morning. Good morning. I think potentially your concept of nine days off might be a little different than most people's concept of nine days off, as much work as you were getting done. You know what? Thank you. You know what? I really, I was on the go there so much. And I want to tell you what I saw because nothing is as it appears at all. So I was in the Senate. I was in the House. I was in the tunnels underneath. I was all over. I had pretty much clearance for going anywhere and everywhere just about. So It was very interesting to see how the barricades and everything were set up. And I can tell you right now with absolute certainty that their security was not about keeping the buildings or anything else like that secure. It was about creating as much chaos as they could in that foreign land of D.C. This was about retribution on we the people. It was about actually creating an emergency situation, not keeping people safe. And the when I saw it the most was when we went to one of the balls on the twentieth at night after the inauguration and seeing exactly the chaos that the downtown, the DC Swamp Rats were creating to deny access to people that were going in there to the balls and everything else. Most people in this sub-zero weather were being dropped off between a mile and a mile and a half away. And they had to walk in. And to get past the barricades, they had snow plows. They had the Jersey barricades. They have this metal barricades. They had this thing cordoned off. Like you can't believe like there was an eminent threat and there just wasn't at this point in time, okay? So, and what we also saw is I saw that our phones were all hacked. When we drove in there, they kept sending us, GPS kept sending us away from the area that we were supposed to go to and putting us on these endless loops, endless loops out and right back, endless loop out and right back. But we kept getting farther away. And finally, with my buddies that I was with that day, I said, I'm done with this right now. We're going old school and I'm reading the frigging map and we're going to do this a different way. So ignore the GPS, ignore the signals, and we're going by an actual map. So as we went around, I could see where we needed to come in was on the exact opposite of where GPS sent us. In the midst of this, there were strobes and emergency strobes everywhere. And I wanted to bring this up because I wanted you to comment on this, Shawn. They were not on vehicles. They were not at anything else. They were on fences. They were on poles. They were on buildings. You couldn't go hardly, you know, twenty feet without hitting a strobe somewhere of some sort that was hitting you in the face. Blue. Most of it was blue, which I thought was supposed to be at emergency vehicles, but it wasn't. It was on fences. It was on openings into the, you know, past the barricades and stuff. It was pretty much everywhere and it was bullshit. so I start reading the map we get on the other side earlina was there too and she and I were going back and forth you know not in a in uh you know we're getting this thing done kind of a bantering back and forth where to go and all of a sudden We said, well, let's go off to the right here on one of these little service roads to Ann Ann because it was absolute gridlock. If there had been an emergency there, hundreds of thousands of people would have died. and it wasn't protesters there was nada no protesters I saw the whole time I was there three pathetic little signs that somebody was carrying and they were just something like don't forget you know don't forget this group or don't forget that group there was no hostilities there was no nothing I saw nada okay so as we were going down this little service road I see this alley and I'm like great we can get out of gridlock go down go down the alley We went down this little alley and jumped out behind all the barricades. And it was like total peace and tranquility there. Unbelievable. Outside, it was dangerous. People were moving around trying in panic to get in. created that panic and it was the dc swamp so we jump out behind the barricades having to go to our our uh event that we were supposed to go to which we had a bunch of friends there including a bunch of well-decorated military generals and and it was it was interesting okay We get in there, we drove right up to the front door. Couldn't believe it. Everybody else there said they had to walk all of this sub-zero and we just drive right up to it. Once we were behind the barricades, nobody stopped us. Nobody said a thing. We drove right up to the building. It was incredible. So that's kind of how it worked and what I saw. And furthermore, the last time I was in DC, it was when there was all this talk about the Graffiti everywhere. President Trump was talking about it. Everybody was talking about it. And I'm going to tell you what right now. There was no graffiti. There was not one bit of graffiti. It wasn't on the Lincoln Memorial. There was no graffiti there. Zero zip. Nada. Peace and tranquility reigned around those monuments. However, with that said, so there was two big errors in the news. Graffiti, nada. Protesters, nada. Only threat was from the DC swamp. And they were doing things like once you came out of the events, they would have snow plows or these big vehicles that were turning on the exhaust and gassing everyone to make it absolutely unlivable to come out of these events. So what I can tell you they were doing, it was retribution on President Trump, the rightful President Trump and his supporters. And I'm going to say right now to the DC swamp, you are so screwed right now. It's not even funny because all of us saw it. President Trump is writing all these orders and I'm pretty much extra sure that all of these people in the unions that have gone along In fact, Erlina went outside and gave these guys all kinds of hack on the street. What are you doing? She came out in her long dress and a full length of name and she's just telling them exactly where this is going. Right. Funny. Hilarious. Absolutely hilarious. Those ones that are in the the. The unions, you're just as guilty as the ones above. And they were, somebody actually said, well, we have to do this. No, you don't. So somebody's telling them from above to basically attack the Trump supporters by extra means. But we weren't dissuaded. We didn't stop. We just kept going and we're going to continue to go. And that's just the way it is because that's what we have. We have no reverse gear. We're not stopping until the very last swamp rat piece of crap is cleaned out of this nation, not just DC. It was an amazing experience. I'm so glad that President Trump decided to have it inside, away from the threat, because it wasn't just a threat to him and his family. It was. It was a threat to every single person that was there. And we saw it firsthand that it was the swamp, the security, the said security forces that were the ones causing the problems. It wasn't the protesters. so let's let's talk about some of this because I think it's going to be it's going to be there's more to this there's much more to it that entire city is built to waste time the structure moving around between the buildings people talking to each other and that sort of thing there's nothing efficient about it not one thing it is a huge mega green waste of time. And I got talking to some staffers too. I want to talk about the inaugural ball, which we were supposed to have tickets to. And then at the last minute, oh, sorry, we made a mistake on the email and we can't write it. Really? Oh, really? I start digging into this and I ended up having a conversation with with several people down there. And they said, I don't think you really understand how this works. And I'm like, I don't because on my worst day, I couldn't make this stuff up. All right. Normal people like us, we would try to fix it. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. Not just not in D.C., not in D.C. And what I was told was that though we signed up for it, and I wasn't the only one that said we had our tickets hacked the way that they were. The people on the inside told me, they said, I don't think you understand how this actually works. They said anybody in there paid allegedly twenty thousand dollars to be at that inaugural ball. And I saw it when I was down in Mar-a-Lago wanting to talk to President Trump and everybody else. No, no, no, no, no. You've got to pay one hundred fifty thousand dollars to talk to President Trump. So I'm not sure he really is necessarily involved in this, but certainly the people around him are. This is how it works down there. And I have great faith that the rightful president of the United States, President Donald J. Trump, is going to rip this corruption out by its evil root and absolutely incinerate it because the proof is there. And I believe that the crimes have to be committed so that we have ironclad evidence on exactly what's been done. And I don't mind being the bait in this in a way. I was a little bit in Michigan here being the bait to their evil schemes. And I love it that I lost because it proved all sorts of things. And now we actually have actual proof positive and evidence of what the game is. But I had to tell you guys about it. So let's talk about these strokes first and foremost and what everybody else knows about what's going on here. did see um something that was pretty egregious all those purses did anyone see that video like um all these women or everybody was waiting in line for hours and in the freezing cold to get in um to the arena and then they don't tell anybody you get to the front and they're like oh you can't bring that person and people there were thousands of just dumped on the street like you know very expensive fancy purses um and women that when they came out they were all gone and they were pissed like yeah there's no lockers there's nowhere to put on they just said you can't come can't get in you're not allowed in with the purse got to do something with it and what are you going to do go go back and go back to your hotel and then go back in line for six hours Well, what I did, and I was in the Library of Congress again, and we also went to the National Archives because there were some things that I needed to see there and people I needed to talk to. So we had access to go into, they just opened up several areas of the Library of Congress, the most beautiful building hands down in DC, in my opinion. It is inspiring and it is amazing. we were getting ready to be able to have access to actually walk on the floor in there and no purses. And I'm like, if you think I'm leaving my purse out here, you're nuts. I'll be coming back at a later date. So I just turned and walked away and talked to a few more people and moved on. When you go there, remember don't let your emotions get away with you because that's what they want if you're going to carry something make sure you carry only what you can carry directly on your person yeah it's that sort of thing it's a very evil place I don't know about you guys but like when I go somewhere I sometimes can feel like something's just bad here um places in new york and stuff but when I was in dc a few times the couple times I've been there I always get this really bad feeling and I had the same feeling when I was in london like and this was before I was into politics or anything I didn't know anything about this stuff I could just feel like something just bad here You're annoyed. I felt like annoyed most of the time I was there, just annoyed at the, at the nonsense. So I have another picture. I haven't posted it yet that you guys are going to think is really amazing because I did get to meet with quite a few people, senators and people have very, very hard to explain influence and importance. Okay. So not everything there is what it appears. I'll post the one picture in a minute. It's going to blow your mind, but I'm going to tell you right now, I came back and I was in court on Tuesday and one of my court cases, Found out some information here. This was all about the signature gatherers and such, which I think is really super interesting because they tried to get me to sign a tolling agreement last month. And it was one of those things you got to go with your gut. OK, and I'm like, there's something wrong with this. Why do they want me to take a pause and retract this case? It didn't make any sense to me. So I'm like, not going to do it. Magically, within a matter of two weeks, we have a court case and they were saying that the statute of limitations is going to run out. And I'm thinking, we got six years and it was already filed within that. So they're lying. They're ever living behinds off. And so I'm just like, yeah, I'm not going to do that. So we show up at court on Tuesday. And I want to tell everybody without saying anything right now that I'm pretty extra sure that within the next few weeks, we're going to see some fireworks here that are going to be. Oh, my God. Thank you, Jesus. it's happening and it's going to happen on in a such an epic level that everyone is going to be shocked because this is this is we're not we're just seeing their minimum of what they want us to know and see. We are not seeing what's really happening behind the scenes. You can go, you can make some assumptions. I can make some pretty big assumptions right now. I mean, huge assumptions, but the storyline is starting to unfold. I think if they dumped the storyline onto everybody right now, people would absolutely lose their minds because of the personal amount of arrogance of thinking that we know what's going on because it it gives people the feeling of being safe and in control right now it's a lie you're not in control we don't know what's going on that includes myself I can make some assumptions but we don't know what's really going on and so We can go forward knowing that God's in control. That's all I need. I don't need anything other than that. Next stop, who knows? But we have to realize that we are being, we are part of the narrative, not on the side that we think we're looking at, but both sides. I saw clear evidence of that when I was in DC because people we were told to hate I don't think that they are exactly what they're telling us. Remember, if we are in fact watching a movie or watching things unravel, there's good guys playing bad guys and they're the best. And there's bad guys playing good guys. And we're going to have to watch with a little bit of what my grandfather would do. Well, well, well, because the biggest one that I saw that was crazy is going to blow everyone's mind on his role in this. And I can tell you, it is going to blow your mind. I'm looking forward to that. I'm okay with that. I've been trying to keep an open mind. Inauguration day was rough for me because I want to be super happy. We as a nation, as a country, we really could use a good day. We could use a day where we go, okay, we are totally winning. But I still have reservations. So I can't be, I want, show me the money kind of thing. You know, and I did see that there were some positive things actually happening across the country. And I'm still reserved in those things being facts. You know, I'm being fed information. Is everything happening as I am getting it? I'm not sure. But I'll just accept that some things are moving in a positive direction, as promised. But I still don't know who the guy is that just took an oath. You know, I'm still in that place where I might be crazy, but I'm being open-minded. I don't know who that guy is. I don't know who Benson is. She's running again. Is that really Benson? I don't know. And this Nesbitt thing, you know. These, all I can do is go along with the show that we're being told, but observe from a distance and not, like you said, not get emotional because that's what they want us to do, but go, okay, they're trying to get me emotional about something. Why is that? You know, always stay above the news, quote unquote, because they're always trying to get you emotional and throw you off balance. I think the Normies are feeling good. Yeah. what information you're getting that you feel comfortable with. You know, sometimes I watch the ABC evening news is typically what we watch for the weather here. And so I'll go ahead and listen. And sometimes I'll write down what the main topics were and where I heard the bias, because I know that a lot of my followers aren't watching the news. They don't want to. But for me, it's what are they trying to tell us? And what's what's the angle? that they're bringing it with. Because that tells me a little bit about what's actually happening. Well, let me tell you something, okay? So I was on the ground. I was in court this week. There's lots going on. And I'm going to tell you that it is my opinion, and you guys know me, I wouldn't say this unless I had a huge amount of confidence in this. It is my opinion that we already won. Oh, yeah. And that we're going to go through a time that's going to be a little bit bumpy because of us, not them at this point. The panic that people have the ability to go into when things become unfamiliar or things get bumpy is where the problem is right now. I believe that we already won. Now the question is, is are we going to be the calm in the storm? We need the storm. This evil has to be ripped out by the root and incinerated into a little black smoldering pile of ash. And when we see those things that disappear in front of us, are we going to mourn like Sarah did in the Bible? What she lost in Sodom and Gomorrah? Or are we going to go forward and say it needed to be gone? And what does God have planned for us next? That's what's going to change everything right there. Yeah, I've been unconvinced for a while that the good guys... were fully in control. I tend to think that there's very few people out there that are truly either completely good guys or bad guys in that a lot of them have been compromised. However, there's a few things that I saw this week that were unrelated to the inauguration that were happening outside of that entire distraction. that have me pretty well convinced that they've got a lot better control over it than what I thought they did. This week. Yep. I agree. I saw it too. Yep. And it was not related to the news, not related to the inauguration. This was just other stuff that was happening in the background. And yeah, there was a lot of good stuff that happened. Well, maybe in the background, I think maybe there, you know, I can see the plot being set up. where we're going to have these mayors and local town officials and school boards and stuff, you know, trying to keep the federal ICE agencies and, I mean, agencies from doing what Trump has ordered them to and what the party of people want with getting these criminal aliens out. And you can see it being set up right now. Oh, I'm not, these people aren't going to do it. and the federal is going to come in and maybe that's a chance to legitimately take these people off the chessboard. I did have one thing too, that I noticed when you were talking that is kind of unrelated to the news and more just an off the grid note. And that's when you were talking about the GPS going haywire, everyone should have a some offline method of having maps Ideally paper, but then also probably augmented with an electronic system where you can fully download current and updated maps something like the. there's a bunch of Apps out there, but, like the organic maps APP is an open source one. But to download it do stuff offline but don't trust your GPS position, even with that, because. Right from the start, the GPS system had the selective availability system for intentionally introducing inaccuracy into the GPS signal. Here's what I do anyway. When it comes to maps, I have maps of every major U.S. city and states. Every one of them was laminated. And I use like a little magnet system, just a little round, two little round magnets that I want if I'm trying to, you know, I want to mark the map somehow. I'll put one magnet in the front, one in the back, right at that location. But here's one of the things that my wife and I did years ago. When Google first came out and you know how they had the beta system where people were taking pictures of like landmarks, right? So they would have like this restaurant and they would take a picture of the restaurant for their business and they would upload it upon Google. Well, you can go on Google nowadays and what you can do, like what we do, is we actually print out the directions but along with the directions like every step of the direction they have pictures landmarks like buildings signs or you know certain things that help you identify this is a location where you got to turn left or you got to turn right and so it gives you that visual indicator and so we would print those we would print that out so if we're going to go somewhere uh we have a laminated version of it right so Just in case I know there's been times where my wife is actually was doing the driving and I was sleeping and we actually got lost. We ended up like she missed an exit and it was like, we were like an hour north of where we're supposed to be. And so after that, I was like, okay. I got to come up with a system that's easy for her to see. And she can look at it and go, OK, OK, I see this picture. There's a gas station. So I need to stay on the interstate. I need to stay on the left. Don't get off there at Floyd, right? Just keep going on the left side. And that'll take you all the way around this bend. And it'll take you all the way straight across where we need to go. And so after doing this repetitively over and over and over, she got it down to her. OK, she literally knows where the main road is. She's actually taken like off roads, you know, because they've had construction work or whatever. She's gotten lost and she's learned, OK, landmarks, landmarks are a big, huge part of. how we map out the system, right? So if you have some kind of a visual indicator, like, oh, there's McDonald's here, there's Burger King up here, okay, I got a turn here, you know. That's like old school, that's the way we used to do it back in the day. But the thing is, is that the society we have today was engineered for people to become codependent upon the system, which tells us that GPS tells us, okay, this is where you gotta go, this is how you gotta get there, right? Back in the old days, we didn't have any of that. All we had was paper maps. And if you got lost, you would stop and ask somebody, say, hey, I'm trying to get here, you know, how to get there, right? And they would tell you, oh yeah, you gotta go down this road here and you gotta take two lefts, then a right, and then it's on the left-hand side. You don't see so much that anymore because they tell you, oh, just go, you know, your GPS, Google, whatever. That's the society they're trying to condition us so that we don't have any independent thought. We don't have any critical thinking skills, right? So the number one problem of any type of survival situation is a person who does not have independent critical thinking skills is not going to survive I don't care if it's an urban setting or if it's out in the woods If you don't have that, uh, critical thinking skills, like question everything. Right. Uh, like why did they build Washington, DC? That mirrors exactly like what Paris is. Right. It kind of makes me wonder like, hmm, then you start to go down that rabbit hole and you're like, oh, so this is how they can control the flow of traffic. But most importantly, it was a military strategy because. We all know what happened with the revolution in Paris back in the, you know, seventeen hundreds. Right. So they started restructuring their city. So it makes it harder and harder and harder for enemy forces to get into and go to where these capital buildings are. And so that's just kind of a little quip that I know some things. But you think, OK, like this information is useless. But later down the road, you're finding, oh, well, this is kind of a useful information. Right. It's always really a good idea to just question everything. I don't care what it is. Just start off by questioning everything. This is where you go, oh, okay, well, the person is trying to give me directions. Obviously, you know, some people with bad intentions will tell you, you know, I'll send you somewhere else, right? It's really no different than having Google or GPS coordinates telling you, Hey, you know, Donna, you got to go on this loop here. It takes you all the way out, comes back, and then it tells you to go another way. Right. But when, when you have that, that ability to go, okay, well, I'm going to plan my trip long before I go. I'm going to have everything on paper. I'm going to have visual markers, indications. I'm going to have all the things that I need. So when I go home, why leave the house? I get in my truck. Um, like if I'm walking out or whatever, if I'm just taking a trip, I'll have that with me. So that in case of something happens to me, my wife or somebody else that's with us, we'll have those things with them because you know, God forbid, You know, the GPS are telling them to go somewhere else, which very well could end up in a FEMA camp, right? Or a United Nations camp or a checkpoint or whatever, right? So... What really struck me is that you can't get around in D.C. and that city is over. It's probably, I don't know. I think if you got rid of ninety percent of what's there, it'd still be way over capacity. You can't get around in that city. It is impossible. Nobody drives there. Nobody parks there. Do you realize that the regulations they have on the rest of our day require a certain amount of parking spaces to handle the amount of people there? We would never be able to get away with what they've done outside of the nuttiness of D.C. And I sat there and I'm like, ninety percent of this stuff has to needs to be abolished and send the rest of them home, turn the rest of the city into a museum and call it good because nothing good is happening there. One of the other things that I saw, not to interrupt you, but but it is that There's a lot of good people who go there, I'm pretty sure, thinking they're going to make a change, especially the younger people. And they go there with a good heart, thinking that they're going to change this and they're going to make a difference there. No, you're not. You're going to get swallowed up by this beast because you can't. It is designed to swallow people up alive in this system. And once you're in there, they may start somebody out as a younger person in an office. Somebody says to them because they just are ignorant. And I don't mean that they're stupid. They don't know the process. Go spread these papers for me a minute. That'll go do it. thinking that they're doing what they're told right and then the next part the next time the person will say go do this and the person will say well this isn't right I can't do this they said well you did it you know what what you did before was illegal now they got you because they got a violation and you did something you didn't know you did And now you're blackmailed into it or they're blackmailed into it. And there's not enough people out there that would look at them and say, screw you, I'm out of here. And you're going down at this moment in time because you gave me those directions. So guess what? I would be very afraid if I were you. And that's what needs to happen. But very few younger people or even older people have the fortitude to do that. Yeah. It sounds like DC is like Fanghorn forest. Isn't that the forest in Lord of the Rings where they could just get turned around repeatedly and they can't find the light and everything's a mystery. You're right. I mean, I think that they're all, you know, quickly blackmailed and controlled in one way or another. Remember that one guy, I don't remember his name, but I think he was in Congress and it was his first year. He was like in a wheelchair or something. Remember, Trump had him on stage a few times, and he came out and started telling the truth, and boy, he was gone quick. He's off the scene. Yeah, Madison Cawthorn, I think is who he's talking about. I've met him. I've met Madison. I've got a cell phone and such. Where did he go? Where is he? It's still there, but so you don't hear about good people on the news. Yeah. So you're neutralized, you're canceled through the news. What were you going to say, Sean? So, no, you're right. You know, what's going on in D.C.? I think during the time of the inauguration, I think there was this plan to make it almost nearly impossible to get to the inauguration. I think they were addressing security threats that were posted online or like subreddit chat rooms. And this is like all these different places, right? So I know that Trump's team was focused on a lot of different things. you know just different assessments of levels of threat um the different types of multipliers the threats where they were coming from um and so I think the the goal was to make it so so hard to get to the inauguration right now I'm talking about just like everyday books like you and me um like we saw what happened with the trump rally in michigan where we've got still a nineteen-year-old kid that climbs up on top of a steel roof cops are trying to get him down they did they really didn't do much effort of actually you know going up there and trying to stop him we had um secret service snipers uh were told not to shoot this person uh and then the last second uh default fired three shots one of them grazed trump's here um and so I think I think the importance of the inauguration for itself, that they wanted to make sure that no one would have access or a way to be able to get close enough to him. And that's why they moved it inside the building. But I think that's the reason why they made DC so hard to navigate. Because I know the federal government actually has control of the SATCOM, which controls the GPS system. And they put a lot of misdirections. And it's not because they don't want good people to go there. It's not because they don't want us to show up and participate in a once in a lifetime event, right? But it really is to deter anybody who was thinking about trying to assassinate Trump from his inauguration, becoming president, and anybody and everybody that's involved. So I think that was, you know, in a normal, I guess, in normal circumstances, just like, you know, just say on a May Day and there's really nothing going on. You go back to Washington, go down the same routes, check your GPS again. Right. I bet your GPS is going to give you the right coordinates and the right path to follow. And you're going to end up where you want to go. You're going to be able to park where you want to park and get to where you want to go with such ease. But think about this. How is it that a dummy like me can go again, drive around, go down an alley and come out behind behind the barricades? Was there any security there? I'm going to tell you right now. Yeah, I don't know. I think there's a serious as well. And well, when I worked, here's a good example. So like right after the Boston bombing marathon or the Boston Marathon bombing incident, and I was working at the Bank of America marathon in Chicago. And we had like, we had Secret Service, we had the FBI, CIA, NIS, we had We had NSA, we had local sheriff's departments from like four different counties. We had every Chicago police department, SWAT teams. We had military contractors with bomb sleeping dogs. We had every security agency, security companies, you name it. They literally went like all out, no expenses and just pay for the entire thing. And you really could not get to point A to point B without some kind of control device, fencing, personnel. I mean, they were literally everywhere. But there's always sometimes, you know, there's that it could be human error or it could be just something like there was an alley or something that was completely unobstructed. And a lot of times, you know, the The planners, this is my opinion, but the planners, they know if something is not obstructed. And I think sometimes they leave that avenue open purposely for whatever reason. It could be a contingency plan. I don't know, but I think it's still kind of a little fishy, you know, in my sense. You would think somebody would have been there at any rate if it was open, even if it was a barricade, that somebody would have been there and said, you know, stop, back up, or I'm going to fire, but nothing. It was just odd. I got to bring something on right now just to give us a little humor here because this is hilarious. We're experiencing a heat wave here in Michigan. This is my friend Robert. And this is how Michiganders, Karen, this is how Michiganders celebrate a heat wave. At twenty six degrees. So that's warm. That's healthy. It's good for you. Yeah, I'm going to show you something else that's kind of cool. So I started posting such stuff. I've got more stuff to show you because it was crazy. I went into one place, and lo and behold, everybody's wondering if Betsy DeVos, who paid off with part of allegedly paying off Pence, And all of a sudden, I was actually getting along with Eric Prince. And lo and behold, I walk into an event. And there they are sitting at a table, Betsy, Dick, and Eric. And I believe his wife were sitting there. And Eric had this old shit look on his face. And I just walked right over to him, got a few pictures. I thought that was interesting. Anything that Sean Ryan's putting out there right now is fairly, fairly suspect to me. And then let's check this out. I don't know if you can see this. I'll get my cursor out of there. But look at the look at the foot. This is on my telegram channel. Look at what we have there. He's got a boot on and I'm not pale. And I'm pretty well convinced that the day he showed up, that we've got some sort of a double or somebody there because I'm not buying this. However, kind of interesting. And lo and behold, there you go. The DeVos connection, that DeVos who resigned on January seventh, right after January sixth. And lo and behold, Pence got paid twenty-two or more. I've heard much larger numbers, dollars standing there with Pompeo, who allegedly did not give the information up to actually keep things secure. So as I'm going to say this right now, guys, there is an awful lot going on behind the scenes and just watch and go, well, well, well. Brandenburg's pretty sure that the good guys are in control. So at least we got a glimmer of hope here. She might be a little bit wacky, but I think that there's going to be some truth to this. So I have a question. Yes. If that's not Pompeo, why would he wear a boot unless it's to cause us to wonder why Pompeo is wearing a boot? Well, didn't Trump revoke his Secret Service protection yesterday? Yeah. Yeah. He revoked his security clearance as well. So is the boot a signal? And we're looking at a double. Well, I kind of think that there's some truth there. I can tell you too, that when I was in DC, I went back, I went past the FBI building. as well as the Department of Injustice. There's a little nod to Ivan Raiklin. I love Ivan. He's a friend of mine, and he's great. And I'm going to tell you right now, I'm going to be really surprised if there's more than just a handful of people in the FBI building. It looked like it couldn't pass an inspection. It looked like it absolutely was falling down, nothing going on in there. A few lights, maybe you look up at it and go, wow, this place looks like a piece of crap. Like, you know, part of a abandoned part of the city. And there was a delivery that was going into the Department of Injustice, but the FBI building looked pretty quiet to me. Really? I'm going to say it's probably pretty much on the verge of being boarded up. So, which makes me wonder in, you know, Asking questions because we got to ask questions, right? Asking questions if indeed with President Trump not putting his hand on the Bible swearing in, if he is indeed commander in chief and that the military is already in control. Yeah, I think so. There's been a lot of interesting speculation. I saw a video of Harris watching him getting sworn in. And you can see her eyes take note his head is not there she's looking down at his hand she's looking at the Bible and she's smiling like she's trying to stifle a laugh. That was interesting. The articles coming out about it or saying that. His wife Melania was coming up with the bibles in justice Roberts is taking a hit because. he started the oath too swiftly and that Trump didn't have the Bibles there for the start of the oath. Okay, you got to see this. He intended to do it and J.D. did use a Bible. Had to put that up because he had to. Did you see the comparison of her ball outfit with the Saudi Arabia outfit? outfits and the sword dance yes here's my here's my interpretation about trump not placing his hand on the bible well there's an actual verse in the bible it says that god says do not take my name in vain do not swear upon my name it's just for that it's in vanity So when you when you want to separate those who serve and worship the devil in Washington, D.C., and you want to know who the ones that are serving the light or the good guys, you're going to see the good guys. They are never going to take an oath with their hand on the Bible. In fact, like if I if I were to go and many times I've gone and testified in court for like criminal cases and. and they would say you know put your hand put your replace your left hand on the bible raise your right hand and swear on the bible everything you would tell the truth you know and I would tell him I said well I'm going to tell you this um I don't I don't uh I'm not going to put my hand on the bible I'm not going to swear on god but I will tell you the absolute truth of everything that I can remember and they accept that they're like oh okay Kennedy was the last one that didn't swear with his hand on the Bible too. Kennedy, JFK, he didn't put his hand on the Bible either. The problem I see with that argument is that President Trump, and I'm saying that loosely because again, I just don't know, for his first term had his hand on the Bible. So I know that a lot of people are aware of the verse. They interpret it differently. So I don't say never. I think some people will swear, quote unquote, and there are some that when they read that and they believe it that way, then they stop doing that forever. So I don't go wholeheartedly and say, well, that means that there is definitely something maybe he just I'm just saying maybe he just didn't get it on there in time the old stance regardless an oath is an oh he didn't have to have his hand on the bible it doesn't have to have a meaning for us and devolution could still be occurring regardless so I just I'm not putting a lot of stock in any one set of you know theories about that particular aspect of things but then again see that's the point I think that's a good test because there are a lot of people who will pick up on little things like that because they have learned about bibles and upside down crosses and things like that that have to do with inaugural images and videos but they get stuck on that instead of asking bigger questions and more important questions. And they get really distracted by the fine little details. And what does it mean? And what did Dan Scavino say? And what does that number seventeen mean? They quoted Q again. Going back to the beginning of this, what are those strobe lights that you were seeing all over? Well, if they had had any, I thought that blue lights were supposed to be for police or, you know, that sort of thing. They were on fences and posts. So they were, they were not even where they were supposed to be. They were just like strobe lights and they're like everywhere. And all of the emergency lights were on every vehicle, snowplow, you know, who knows, you know, could be bunny foo-foo jumping around the city with a strobe light on because they were on everything, right? The gates everywhere. the fences everything had a blue light that had blue lights flashing blue lights I just quickly brought this up that ralph um this is the organic maps app in case anybody wants to see that I will put it on my telegram channel at brandenburg number four am I go ahead john yeah if you're gonna if you're gonna download that make sure you download the offline maps they've got various packages for that or whatever areas you're interested in perfect strobes john yep what are they sorry about that um so yeah I mean when you when you're looking at things is From a security standpoint, I think that Trump's security detail team was in charge of how people were going to be able to approach D.C. I think that was done intentionally to keep him safeguarded. Because if it was any other time of the year, you really wouldn't have any of those problems. Take a look at January six, twenty twenty. all the people that went to Washington, D.C. to see Trump, they had no problems. They had unfettered access to everything. And we know what that result was, is there was a biggest con game that I've ever seen this happen in Washington, D.C., where they literally started arresting people shortly afterwards because, oh, well, the Trump supporters incited the riot, blah, blah, blah, blah. But then all the little mechanisms of how they went about this. But to understand, you know, they let all these people in on federal access. There's hardly any security detail. And I've worked in the world of security for so long to know that there's meetings. You're talking like six months to a year out. There are meetings of the heads of each department that are sitting down and they're like nailing down you know, how they're going to be controlling the traffic, who they're going to allow to come in, who's going to have access to everything. So there's literally nothing on, there's literally nothing kind of left to the wayside, like, oh, we forgot this, you know. No, it's so very well thought out. And they have like a lot of the top security experts in DC. They know, they knew exactly what they were doing. They wanted unfettered access on January six, I'll be right back. Talk amongst yourselves. Okay. This is where we get into Trump inauguration. You're not going to get unfettered access because they want to make sure that this goes off without a hitch, obviously. So they're going to make it really, really hard for just your casual everyday person to be able to get there. But once you've kind of figured it out, you've got to be two, three miles away and find a parking garage. and then the amount of time it takes you to get from point a to point b um could take you you know half a day just to get there well that's their whole intent because this is how they can be able to control have control of access information. They use a lot of facial recognition software and a lot of their street cameras. So at any given time, there's like, sixty million people in D.C. Their faces are being constantly scanned at a rapid rate of like, I don't know, it's like a million bits per second. and they literally have a system, a catalog system, and they can, they can identify you based on your social media profiles. Um, they actually get all, uh, an AI software that actually compiles a profile just on you, on everything you said or everything you, you put out there. And they'll tell you like, okay, this is what this kind of a person thinks. This is what personality traits are. Um, this is what a threat level assessment is. Um, And that way the folks in DC who, you know, that are, that are running security point, they really, you really can't just get into the city without, without them knowing about it. You know? I mean, this is probably one of the best, probably one of the best securities from a standpoint, uh, best security, uh, set up I've ever seen. And the best one is, well, they don't tell you. They don't tell you anything other than, oh, yeah, last minute we're going to move it inside to the building. But they don't tell you as far as, you know, what their security procedures are going to be, how they're going to, you know, be directing traffic or where they're going to put everybody, right? So I think this is probably one of the best – deterrent methods they've ever used. But it sucks. I mean, it sucks for Donna, you know, trying to get there and having to put up with a lot of different things. But still, I think if I'm a good practice, I still think it's a good idea to have, you know, if anything else, to go back to D.C. again. This time, put your GPS away. Like a lot of times when I travel, I don't even take my phone with me. because I do not like the idea of anybody tracking my movements, right? Yeah. Especially like Facebook. And when I went down to Texas to do the Panhandle documentary and to investigate the fire, I took my phone with me because I knew that Meta is actually tracking my phone. And as soon as I get there, see, and here's the interesting thing is that When you're on your, even when you don't have your phone on, so you physically turn off my phone and they're still accessing Meta, has the ability to access the audio portion and the video portion of my phone. So anytime I talk about, say, you know, I'm down here in the panhandle or going to investigate this fire, we're trying to raise donations and blah, blah, blah. Key words, they come into play. And then as soon as I open up my phone, And my Facebook, I popped my Facebook up. You know, the very first thing I saw, I saw BlackRock employees. Oh, no. They had to buy properties from the farmers who have lost their properties in the fire. And I started shooting every single one of them. I saved them all. I was like, hey, thank you, man. Thank you for giving me this information, you know. But it's... That's why I kind of go through the practice. I don't take my phone with me. If I do, I'll take my old flip phone and I must count my burner phone. I'll take that with me and it's got no GPS in it, but I'll have my paper maps with me. A lot of them are laminated, but Also from memory, like, okay, I'm going to D.C. I want to make about as many trips as I possibly can, right? So I figured out where the main vein is, main artery, and then from there, where the side streets are. You know, when I get there and say, okay, I'm going to spend a whole day just walking around, just checking out the side streets and check this out, check that out. And then by the time I get my sixth trip there, Well, you're going to be like, well, I know where everything's at. You know, I just take this road here, just take this road. Somebody's in the backseat, probably with their phone. They're like, well, the GPS says, ah, screw the GPS. The GPS doesn't know what it's saying. It's trying to tell you, you got to go this way so you don't reach your destination. So experience like repeating over and over and going to different places, you know, just, um, You know, get lost, right? That's part of the whole process of the experience is, hey, just go ahead and get lost. And when you go through this process, yeah, you wasted, you know, a hundred dollars worth of gas driving around. But the thing is, is what you learned is, okay, there was this landmark. Okay, there was this landmark. You know, I had to turn here or I had to go here. I mean, that's completely priceless. Yeah. I just posted a link where I don't know if you guys have seen these sunglasses. Try wearing a pair of these in an airport. They really work. They literally cannot track you or do the facial recognition if you put these things on. They do something so cameras can't see through them. So you're talking about the eyes, but you're not talking about the facial features. Yeah, the eyes. I think that's how most of them work now. The technology is way more advanced than we know. They literally can look at the back of your eyes, your retina, and everyone's retina is like a fingerprint as you're walking. And if you wear a pair of these in the airport, they literally, the security will come out and grab you. I wear regular sunglasses, but I can't wear these. They know. Have you been grabbing an airport arm? Yeah. That's why I have to walk everywhere nowadays. It took me like three weeks to get to Florida. And my bike. My bicycle. I like that. I like that. About that guy that was in the airport. And he says... It's not gay if it's TSA. And it shows a TSA, like, patting the guy down, you know? And he's, like, literally standing there, and then TSA is, like, literally patting this guy down. And I was just like, oh, my gosh, that's the funniest thing I've ever seen. I've been very strongly tempted to go through security in a kilt just to screw with them. Oh man, that's a whole scam. The kickbacks, the airports are just so rough. Ralph has made himself his own killed before. It's all about the plaid where his heritage is from. and sewed himself a kilt and he's got it on a rack just for that one day that he wants to try something strange. Yeah, this could be too bad for the TSA guys. I remember when they first started locking down and I was stuck in LA at the LA airport when all the security came up. And it was kind of, okay, so I am a supreme smart aleck, okay? I really am. And so I was power lifting at the time. And so I was in pretty good shape, right? And they decided that they were going to continue to push this issue with Donna Brandenburg in the line at the airport. And I'm like, they're like, well, we need to check something out. And I said, that's fantastic. And I said, well, and so I start taking clothes off. And right there in line. And they're like, you want to go to the building? I said, not on your life. We're going to do this right here, right now. And the guy behind me in line, he's going, oh, God. And I just kept taking clothes off. And I was actually down to a pair of leggings. And like a tank top. And I'm like, we're going to keep going. I will. And they decided that the fight was done and let me go through. But I'm like, there's not a chance I'm stepping out of this line. We're going to do it right here so that everybody can see what a piece of crap you people are. And that you are attacking Americans. And I don't care how far I go at this moment in time. And so I went through and they learned a lesson that there are some of us who are unwavering and will embarrass them in front of the world. Yeah. You're on a special list now. Yeah, I'm pretty sure I was on it then, so that's okay. So, Sean, to your point too earlier about meta tracking you. it it's a great demonstration of the principle of whenever possible use an enemy's infrastructure against them yeah there you go well guys I'm going to give you thirty seconds here because dr andrew huff is going to be on here and we're going to be talking about more stuff um and such and so I'm going to give you each thirty quick seconds to say what you need to say and we're going to go to a break and then um Then I think what I'm going to do is jump on with Dr. Huffer just for a few minutes. David, if you guys want to stay backstage, I'll bring you back on after we get going a little bit. But anybody that wants to stay on, I'll bring you on in a few minutes. But anyhow, quick, thirty seconds. Well, just keep your eyes open. You know, see something, say something. There's a lot of stuff, like Donna said, going on in the background that we don't know about. But the bad guys are probably scrambling. So not going down without a fight. Ralph. Don't believe anything you see. Don't believe anything you hear. Question everything, including the people saying that you should question everything and don't believe anything you see or hear. That's right. Sean. I love that. Boy, that one's going to be kind of hard to top. I would have to say, you know, my final statement for the day is this. Um, there's a lot of moving parts to whatever's going on in the DC, just like a lot of things in life. Um, you know, don't put your faith in the human institution to give your faith in God and Jesus, because there's a lot of things that we may never know about, but there will be doing some things that we may know about. Uh, but don't get hung up on the details and then just enjoy the process. Karen. Yeah, I like what he just said. Don't give him a bunch of details. Well, that's a cheap way out. No, I mean, that's what I've been thinking the whole time, but also like in this last week, my husband and I both got sick and we already had on hand most of the things that we needed. He likes Fisherman's Friend, not for me, but so I actually purchased that while we were out with something that we didn't have on hand. But just a reminder, you know, this kind of weather happens in Michigan. It does get cold. All the things that we talk about on this show. Are you truly prepared? There you go. And you know what? We're going to move forward here. And with that said, lean not on your own understanding, but in all your ways, acknowledge him and he will make your path straight. We'll be right back with Andrew. Thanks, guys. Love you all. You're amazing. Good morning. Welcome to Brandenburg News Network. I am Donna Brandenburg, and it is the twenty fourth day of January twenty twenty five. And welcome to our show today. Still getting used to that. I'm going to bring on my next guest immediately, Dr. Andrew Huff. He is a recent appointee by RFK Junior and and let you talk about what what your adventures are. Hi, Andrew. How are you? Fantastic. It's been a crazy, I guess, week in this new – well, I'm technically a nominee, but we'll see how this goes. The politics in D.C. around all the different nominees and what's going on, it's absolutely insane. I've never been through anything like this before. And if I'm selected to advance to the next round, I'm proud to do the job. Well, I was really happy to see you in D.C. It was very nice that we got a chance to visit. Tell everybody what your new very, very, very long title is. And let's talk about these nomination proceedings and everything else that we saw in D.C. Because I was like, this place is a complete and utter abysmal convoluted mess of wasting people's time in D.C., So the convoluted title is the Administrator and Assistant Secretary for the Administration of Strategic Preparedness and Response. So that's the National Security Health Function of HHS. It spans across sixteen government agencies, basically anything related to health security, whether it's biological, chemical, radiological attacks on the national security side to emergency response, which is oftentimes national disasters. So, for example, right now with the wildfires out in California, Health and Human Services obviously has a role through what's called ASPR, that's the subagency, in making sure that these people are provided for in terms of health, nutrition, and actually overall health security, which is everything from infectious diseases to viruses to making sure that people are fed. I was really glad to see you, and I was glad to see you were nominated because, I mean, I approve you. You should get the nomination. There you go. You got the Donna Brandenburg stamp of approval right there. But what I was saying is that these nominations and what – there's definitely kind of a war going on in ideologies in D.C., and that's what I mean. It's convoluted. The processes are convoluted. Everything wastes time and such. And they're trying to keep good people like yourselves out of these offices so they can continue to to keep their power structure in play. And they're so screwed. They're just they're so screwed. It's not even funny. But but let's talk some more about that. And the nomination proceeds. What are they doing right now? Sure. So first to address the author in the room to get at what you're I think you're highlighting is that the MAGA coalition is really a bunch of factions that were warring up until six or seven months ago. We had Kennedy Democrats. We had hardcore conservatives from like the nineties, sort of the Newt Gingrich, Bush, Bush, President Bush types. Then we also have the Christian Coalition. We have MAGA slash patriots. And then we also have libertarians, like hard carrying libertarians. So these are all the people that ended up backing President Trump and J.D. Vance in the election. And, you know, it was all kumbaya at the RNC convention, which I attended as the first district elected delegate. But then you advance and when you get to the point where they're trying to actually select people and personnel to put in specific positions with the administration, whether they're Senate confirmed or not Senate confirmed, but really about three thousand positions in something called the Plum Book. the knives and the daggers came out. So it became Maha people versus mega people versus the deep state people, the old guard conservatives, and really all this jockeying for power structure created conflict. So from my observation, this conflict wasn't happening at the highest level of the administration. Actually, everything seems to be going according to plan within the white house. But then when you get down to what I would consider the mid management level and the people that are social media influencers or in the media, man, the knives are out. I mean, really trying to throw each other under the bus and staging and really trying to get a lot of the old deep state actors and business as usual people back into the government, a lot of spying and surveillance going on against different opposing factions within the coalition. So this weekend I spent the majority of my time at the inauguration meeting to meeting acting as a diplomat and trying to smooth things over between the different groups. And again, You know, a lot of that sort of does become horse trading at the end of the day, but all for the right cause is that, you know, to how do we have peace in the new administration and make sure that President Trump's America First agenda is accomplished is that we have to find ways to work with each other and make deals even within the coalition. Not every policy idea that we have is going to be accepted by everybody in the coalition. So really, it's really trying to figure out where what policy ideas we can agree on. and what personnel we can all mutually agree on and help get our people into other agencies across the administration. When I say our people, I'm friends with Bobby Kennedy, I'm part of MAHA, but I'm also a libertarian constitutional conservative. Those were where my values lie. So, you know, sometimes it's like, oh, I have a dog coming over here to lick me. Sometimes it's really just trying to figure out, you know, well, I'll take one of your people from the Christian coalition. You know, will you take one of our Maha people? And so it's that kind of trading way on. But, you know, the good thing there is that if we are able to get our different people all across the different government agencies, meaning each group, right, it serves as a check on power and to make sure that we're all acting in the best interest of the United States. Yeah. what's the dog's name this dog's name is zelda she's uh oh here comes the other one we're both getting in on it um yeah they're both uh german chair help short hair pointers and I should have put them in the room I didn't they've never done this before usually they stay lying down all right guys go lay down go away go away So we have guys, it's real news for real people by real people at the kitchen table, sort of, you know, so dogs, dogs are included. They're the best part of the show. Usually everybody's like everybody, you know, everybody is so sick of the politics and, and real realistically, I think most of us just want to get along and go with the right answer. you know, for, for the, for the country. And I, and I do think that most of us agree on those, on those on the points that we have, it's just how we get there. I, I was so honored to meet Bobby Kennedy. I thought, I think he's, he is probably one of the most sincere, authentic people that I've met on my journey. Well, absolutely. And Bobby Kennedy definitely came to my rescue. It's very interesting how I met Bobby after I wrote my book about the truth about Wuhan. Actually, before that, he actually helped me get the book deal. He had an assistant contacting me out of the blue. You know, I knew of Bobby Kennedy, but I didn't really follow his work too much. And so, you know, I started reading more about Bobby and, you know, this assistant's like, Hey, you know, Bobby Kennedy would like to speak with you. And this was the height of a government agency screwing with me and, you know, prank calling me and doing all these weird things in the pharmaceutical industry, all these different groups. I didn't really believe it was Bobby Kennedy trying to get ahold of me. And so he calls me up, you know, I give the assistant my phone number and he's like, you know, this is RFK. You know, I heard that you've been having some problems about with three letter agencies and other groups. And, you know, let me tell me my family story, my family history with the CIA. And, you know, I paused for a second. I said, well, how do I know this is really Bobby Kennedy? And he said, well, I've never heard anyone stuttering. He's like, no one's ever said that to me before. And he has a very distinct voice. And I'm like, you know, after everything I've been through, I wouldn't put it past one of the three letters to be able to fake this quite easily. Well, how can I convince you? I mean, it's really important that we talk. And I'm like, well, I don't know. And he's like, can we FaceTime? And so we FaceTime. There he is chilling on his bed in his master bedroom in his house in Malibu. And he gives me a tour around his house. I'm like, OK, I'm convinced. Oh, that's funny. So then we started talking about, you know, Anthony Fauci, the book that he wrote, he sent me a copy, I read it right away. And I was actually able to plug in a lot of the missing details in that book, which generated a second book, the Wuhan cover up. He got me the book deal with Skyhorse. And the rest is sort of history helped me elevate my profile and really help, you know, help my family probably saved my life. Wow, that's amazing. Well, I think you did a really good job appointing you because, you know, I just have a huge amount of respect for you. And, you know, and we need good people in office. So that's great. Well, thank you. Well, I have a huge amount of respect for what you do. You've been here in Michigan. You know, once I got involved in Michigan politics, I learned that you've been a pistol for years and stirring things up. And that's exactly what we need. Yeah, that's what I do best is not necessarily make it easy on people and make them face the hard questions and be enough of a pest not to go away when things go wrong because we're in the fight of our life right now, and nobody gets a pass anymore on wavering or anything like that. It's go straight up the middle, keep your eyes on the goal, and then if somebody is not doing what they should be doing, you have to call them out. So as Karen said, see something, say something. we need we need to continue I think it was david that said it see something say something you you've got to be on point and we all have to be working together honest so one of the things that is a concern for me and I like it because it's in your very long impressive title is the preparedness strategic preparedness for chemical and biological attacks I'm just going to say it for what it is years ago I became aware of the club k cars that were supposedly armed with both nuclear, chemical, and biological attack. I don't even, I'm going to say weapons. Okay. But that they didn't know exactly where they were. so I I the threat's been with us for a long time so just so everybody knows this is nothing new this has been going on for a very long time we've got we still have truckloads of of fertilizer that that is missing and some other things a few weeks ago I was talking to john ferguson and he said we have sixty nuclear warheads that they don't know exactly where they are in the United States and was talking about the drones and such, and it's like, okay, do I believe it? Do I not believe it? I don't believe anything I hear one side or the other, but I am listening to it. And if it presents itself as a problem, then we'll deal with it then, right? There's nothing you're going to do to stop it anyway, if you're in a position like I am of just being kind of somebody who harasses people to try to get them to do the right thing. What's the threat out there right now? And what are, what's the plan? Is there a plan or are we, you know, where are we in this? Cause I know you're a planning guy. So what's kind of going on? Yeah. So the, the, the history behind CBRN, so chemical biological, radiological and nuclear weapons is it goes back as long as these things have existed. And that's a couple of thousand years. You now bring that into the U S government history. It really became modernized in the sixties and the seventies. And after nine eleven, there was significantly more resources dumped into the I guess the system, so to speak, to mitigate more so the chemical and the biological threats and the dirty bomb threats. The surveillance technology systems that exist for chemical and biological attacks. are quite robust. So it's actually, the US government has quite a capability for surveilling with multiple means. So satellites, aircraft, on ground vehicles, actually man pack systems as they're called. So sporting events, the inauguration, All these types of large gatherings are heavily monitored by the U.S. government for an active threat. So meaning if someone actually releases a biological or chemical weapon, they can get on top of it quickly. So that doesn't stop people from being exposed, but it helps mitigate the risk and contain something if were to happen. Now, if you go one step further back, though, I mean, it's never good to identify these things after they happen, right? It's best to prevent that. So there are then different surveillance technologies, which I can't talk about in high detail, which exist to sort of sniff these things out. And then you have the three-letter agencies like the FBI and the CIA, which are out trying to conduct human intelligence to figure out who are the bad actors involved in these things, who are moving them around, who are trying to buy them or manufacture them. Now, where the ASPR comes into play, that's the Administration for Strategic Preparedness and Response. Well, really, I'd like to get rid of the P. Preparedness is sort of a stupid word, and it's hard to operationally define the government and track your progress. The better word is used broadly in the military, and I served in the military when I was younger, is readiness. So you want to make sure that all Americans are ready for future threats. And one of the big problems that we've observed over time and time again in the U.S. federal response to natural disasters, whether it's Hurricane Katrina or the recent two hurricanes that went through the South, and especially hard hit North Carolina, is that the federal response is screwed up. And that's for a lot of reasons. Oftentimes they don't have the right equipment for its stage. there's too many middlemen in the process to efficiently and quickly move much-needed supplies from point A to point B. My wife was just out in California conducting some research on the recent active forest fires, so conducting research as the event's happening, trying to figure out what's going on and what the problems are, and she reported back last night that that problem exists. They're not able to forward move much-needed supplies and resources to the event, so this could be A forest fire, it could be a hurricane, it could be a response to a chemical or biological attack. And one of the plans that we plan on putting in place is actually changing the metrics from preparedness metrics to readiness metrics. So is this area or location ready to respond to a national security event? That's the first thing. So we have to figure out how ready these things are, whether they're hospitals, fire departments, local communities. The next question is, well, how do we better structure the system so that the federal government responds to events more quickly. And we have, you know, some great ideas. And one of the ideas that we're probably going to put forward, whether it's myself, you know, what if I don't get Senate confirmed or something, but, you know, it could happen or, you know, they kick me out, they get a big, huge donation from some group and they say this Andrew Poff guy is not the right guy. I mean, politics are at play, you know, my butt might not end up in the chair. I realize that. But I have seen the plans from Bobby's transition team and the discussions we've had. And the idea that we want to put forward is that we want to cut all the middlemen out. So typically the money flows or the products flow or the goods from the federal government through the state government, then down to the county government, then out to contractors. We want to eliminate all the middlemen by simply credentialing the people and businesses and contractors that are at the very end of the supply chain, where they're closest to the people. And then once that happens, the federal government can then directly transfer the funds from their account, so to speak, directly to the first responders on the ground. this could work so say that you live in your community and you have um you have some heavy equipment at your disposal say that you have a skid steer or an excavator and you you run some other kind of business well your company could register to be part of the response plan an app then when the disaster happens the government hits activate this area so anyone in that contractor in that area gets notified that they're now eligible to receive the federal funds you just go get to work and the government directly sends you the check and what that does is it's better for government efficiency because all the middlemen take a cut of the contract all the way out to the to the end right so to speak and so we're saving taxpayer money and we're getting the money to the people faster who are right on the ground Saves a lot of time. I think a lot of things can be cut like that. So that's a wonderful way to approach it. What other things are you preparing for and how's that going? Sure. So, you know, another, we have a lot of different ideas here. And it's so the, you know, to give you the size and scope and magnitude of what ASPR is, it's sixteen point nine billion dollars a year operational budget. Oh, I got a puppy whining over here now. If you start to hear the dog whining too loud, let me know and I'll go take care of that. I can't hear him. Okay, good. So if you start hearing it, don't let me know. So it's sixteen point nine billion dollars a year. And then, you know, we heard some funny money got dumped on us. We haven't been able to validate where this is true. But just in the past weeks, past couple of weeks, we know that we received a couple more billion for different countermeasures in the stockpile. Apparently, Congress just authorized another one hundred and sixty billion for new domestic critical infrastructure facilities for health security. And what the heck does that mean? So that's bringing onshore critical supplies like IV bags, therapeutics. We want to add nutraceutical vitamins like zinc and other types of products to that and vaccine development all within the United States so that we're not relying on these things from potential foreign enemies. Actually, a lot of our drugs and critical supplies are sourced from China and other companies in Europe. And there's no worse place to be in terms of national security than relying on your potential enemies or areas that could be under attack. for the supplies you need to maintain your security at home. So this is the, you know, the framework of things that are being sort of could be handed into our lap soon. So now you look under like what the heck's all the, the, billion for besides all these facilities we wanna build. So we have all these massive construction projects and research and development vaccine and new ways we're gonna change the national stockpile. Okay, then on top of it, well, the operations then is everything from health intelligence, biosurveillance, the operation of these emergency management facilities, maintaining networks of first responders. And, you know, this network of first responders is really critical. And that's, you know, doctors, nurses, law enforcement officials, firefighters, and other special needs experts. How do we make that more efficient? So here's another idea. So one of the big problems when disasters happen is that we're not able to get more first responders on site quickly well our country has a massive veteran population and retired law enforcement firefighter population so we want to create a program to credential these people through the federal government so once again through an app system we can say activate and then we can instantly deputize all the veterans, law enforcement officials and firefighters and first responders in the area, doctors and nurses, so that they can respond to the event. Once again, we cut out all the middlemen and then we issued the payments directly from the federal government to the people doing it. That's awesome. Well, thank you. Thank you for your service in the military. What did you serve or where did you serve? Oh, myself, years ago, we just had my twenty year war anniversary, which is weird. But so I was in the Army, the infantry, Minnesota Army National Guard, combat deployed for Operation Enduring Freedom Central South America and then also Operation Iraqi Freedom. Sort of the height of the war. So it would have been they called it OIF two, three and four would have been two thousand four to two thousand six. Wow, that's impressive. Well, thank you for your service. Oh, you're welcome. I mean, it feels like it was just yesterday, but like I said, when I got the notification for my twenty-year combat deployment anniversary, I was like, God, I'm getting old. That's better, Andrew. Every year, all of a sudden, you're like, how did I get here from where I was? I'm still alive. I thought, I'm pretty sure I was going to be dead by the time I was forty. It's amazing. Well, it really sounds like there's a lot going on there. What are, are there any things that you hold close to you that are probably a bigger threat than others? Because I mean, we've heard about dirty bombs. We've heard about that. I mean, I've heard probably any threat that's, that's possibly out there. Most of us that have dug a little bit can say, well, there could be a threat with this or there could be with that. How much, how much, uh, credibility can we get that can we give those those things are they a psyop or are they for somewhat for real what what's your what's your thought on that sure and I think you sort of asked me that question I danced around I didn't get to it so thank you for coming back to it um so so the the different uh you know threats so this we can talk about interesting things so the the drones being sighted over new jersey so first of all the government can brandonburg barn I am coincidentally Yeah, I mean, I've seen them too. And actually, I've seen them for years. So there's a couple different things. So one, there's a couple classified programs, which we'll probably get to classified soon about some of this high aerial surveillance technology that the US government's been using all over the planet for years. Most of it is drone-based. And this stuff came out in early, early two thousands, actually in mid two thousands, it really advanced. Now I think they're, they're sort of showing the world that they have this capability and scaring the piss out of everyone in the process by not telling them what it is. And that's, that's the PSYOP component of it. This is not advanced Chinese technology with nuclear weapons. And this, this weird car, cyber truck blowing up, It is all a psyop. I mean, I don't know what that guy's story is. I mean, it's terrible that this guy died in that event. But it's not the Chinese hovering warp drive technology, not warp drive, but gravity drive technology over the East Coast, because that's not how nuclear chess works. Nuclear chess works like this. So if we have the technology like that guy claimed in his letter and the Chinese have the technology, If they're hovering it over our bases and installations on the East Coast, you can rest assured that we're hovering ours directly over theirs, too, because we want to be able to eliminate each other simultaneously. That's how that game works. That's what we do with the nuclear triad. So this is no... It's so funny, it makes me laugh. I mean, this is not Gravity Drive, Chinese technology over the East Coast, and we're almost at war. That's not what's going on here. You get copycat, so you get people with, see that this is happening, they go out and fly their high-end commercial drones. the military has got their drones you know so everyone takes their drones out to play and and that's what you're seeing is this huge you know group of drone operators taking their stuff out and having a good time including the us government and everyone started laughing in the back side of you know this is what's really going on trying to figure everybody out exactly and people who haven't been aware or paying attention and people are not aware of their surroundings never noticed this stuff and then all of a sudden they all start looking for it they all start seeing it and it's a big deal So great jobs. Other stuff in the news that could be, you know, public health threats or health security threats. Really, the biggest threat that we're facing, and I stand by this, is actually synthetic biology. Most people aren't aware that humans created single cell life form for the first time about two years ago, a year and a half now. It was published in Science Magazine. It didn't really receive much fanfare. And that technology is rapidly growing. So we're now creating self-sustaining, single replicating cells, synthetic, not derived from anything living. The other thing with synthetic biology is that we no longer have to take a virus and manipulate it in the laboratory to create a virus. We can fully synthetic create one. We can create one with synthetic biology. And the real thing that I'm scared about looking five, ten years on the future is that what happens when synthetic biology escapes into the wild? It's completely unpredictable what will happen. And there's larger things than just us having to be worried about getting sick from a synthetic virus or a synthetic bacteria when they start to manufacture those, is what happens to the ecosystem when these things escape the laboratory or get spilled. Because I can guarantee you that humans will cause another accident with synthetic biology. SARS-CoV-II, also known as COVID, most of the technology behind that was synthetically derived. They took some real viruses that exist in the world, and they spliced them and cut them up, different parts of it, put them together. But how they put them together and assembled that relied on synthetic technology. Now it's advanced so much that synthetic technology is like, well, we don't even have to go collect the viruses anymore. We're just going to go manufacture that with our synthetic manufacturing capabilities. so what you know the big big consequences well if the bacteria or these synthetic life forms uh get out into the wild um they could collapse the food system so if they get into a fishery they could you know potentially crash a fish population uh they could crash a plant population they could they could crash a bird population I mean really what we're looking at is severe significant threats to population health at a level that we've never seen from the unknown risks of a technology. And, you know, you can never predict the unknown risks of a technology. You can sort of guess what they might be and scenario planner on it. But from a high level national security perspective, anytime you have an unknown technology and it gets deployed, there's no predicting. what's going to happen. And that's why we have to work diligently to make sure that this technology stays secure and in the laboratory. If, but if you look at, you know, the human history around catastrophic accidents and keeping these advanced technology secures that we have a decent track record. Okay. So the, at the national nuclear labs that I used to work with, we had a policy that we had, that there couldn't be, The chance of a nuclear accident had to be less than one in a billion. Well, over the course of, you know, I guess now we're at seventy or eighty years of nuclear technology, we've had several accidents, some more severe than others. You know, we had Three Mile Island in terms of, you know, that's the energy side of this. That was an accident, not too severe. It could have been much worse. And then on the weapons side, there have been several near misses that are declassified. And you can go on Wikipedia where the Air Force, the Department of Energy made a big oops and almost set off nukes a couple of times in the United States. But luckily, they didn't detonate for whatever reason. So there's been several of those incidents. Now, one in a billion chance, okay? So now we can apply that same type of logic to risk framework to biology and look at our lab accidents. Well, SARS-CoV-T either was leaked from a laboratory or laboratories or was intentionally released. I'm starting to lean more towards intentional as time goes on. And there have been so many accidental releases from academic and university laboratories that you can't... I lose count. And there's been a number of government... laboratory accidents and mishandling events related to these biological agents like, for example, bacteria, highly pathogenic weaponizable bacteria and viruses over the past twenty years. So if you look at where the risk really lies, we have a track record of accidents around these biological laboratories. They're loosely and poorly managed all over the US. Accidents happen at a far too high rate. So now if we start doing synthetic biology in every university laboratory, every government laboratory, every private for-profit laboratory, something bad will happen. So then the real question is, what is the responsible risk mitigation framework and policy to prevent catastrophic life-ending and ecosystem-destructing events from occurring? You know, we're not quite there with the technology for the stuff to go out and rapidly expand through the environment and into people or our food supply yet. I think we'll be there in five to ten years, though. So if we're responsible and how we, where we focus some of our effort is really trying to figure out how do we stay engaged in this research and how do we then, while simultaneously protecting the catastrophic risk, because at this point, I don't see that there's any chance for a new, um, biological arms treaty related to the synthetic biology. I just don't think that the right international framework exists and the politics behind it in all these different countries around the world. So then the next question is, well, how do we stay in the arms race but not kill everyone in the process? And unfortunately, that means more government spending. to do that and sensible regulation, hopefully the spending doesn't have to be too much. But if you look back in history, every time we get into an arms race, it costs taxpayers a lot of money. And it's not just here, it's everywhere else. And all the other countries around the world are getting into this arms race. I mean, it's not, we can't stop it at this point. So how, excuse me, we can't stop it at this point. So how do we manage it responsibly? Is there any upside to that whatsoever? I mean, is there any benefit or is it just flat out an arms race? Well, I think I'll be fine. I'll give a second. That's why I've got, I got my iced coffee here. This is my thing in the morning. I start drinking iced coffee and, and, uh, And keep going. But anyhow, is there any upside to the synthetic biology? Well, potentially, right? So the reason why we engage in this work is that it can cure disease. You can use it to grow better plants. You can use it to grow, to kill other diseases. So you can have bacteria that go out and kill other bacteria. You can have... You can have better, you could introduce one synthetic agent to out-compete another agent that we don't like. So for example, and this hasn't gotten well, I'm just giving you, so I'm not advocating for these activities. I'm just saying, I'm playing the devil's advocate here, why people engage into it. So one argument is you can use these synthetic agents to go out and attack the other bad agents you don't like. So if the synthetic agent is not harmful to humans, then you could just release it and they can go out and act like sentinels and kill all the things that you don't like. You can use your synthetic technology against someone else's synthetic technology in that same capacity. So, for example, if China were to release a synthetic agent that was harmful, whether it was a single cell life form or something, you know, or something like that. Exactly. You can then, then you can release your own synthetic technology to fight the synthetic technology. And this is how, you know, the, either some of the ways you can use this, you could also use synthetic life to protect and reduce infections and bacterial infections from other antibiotic resistant pathogens. You could use that. Yeah. And submersa is, or you could use a synthetic agent to, you know, um in fermentation of food okay you could use it for making cultures of cheeses you could use I mean once you start to get in the single cell life form aspect of synthetic biology becomes really interesting the number of creative things you can do the question though you know this is what happens so say that you make like um a synthetic, uh, microbe that mimics, uh, the behavior of a bacteria like, like MRSA. Okay. well, and you're doing it to out-compete. But then it gets released into the environment, and then it decides independently that it likes this other function or niche, and it behaves differently in the ecosystem because we didn't predict that. And that's the big risk. So there's always the idea that, wow, we could create this new technology to solve this one problem. but the issue is when you're talking about dealing with life and how, you know, we survive as race and how life exists on the planet, the technology that we create, the biotechnology we create might have a better niche that we didn't think of in the environment. And it might go on to self-sustained it. So a perfect example, like many people who had environmental studies or biology, um, within the last, years are taught examples like, um, the mongoose in Hawaii. So Hawaii has a huge mongoose problem, and they brought in the mongoose problem to deal with other pests that they were dealing with. In Australia, they had a cane toad problem. Well, the reason why they had a cane toad problem in Australia is they brought the cane toad in to eat some other pests, and then the cane toads had no natural predators, and now there's cane toads everywhere. And you see these videos of cars running over thousands of cane toads. The one in Guam, so this was caused by America. So during World War II, Guam became the air base for forward operations. Well, a brown tree snake hitchhiked in the cargo of one of these aircraft, and then the brown tree snakes escaped, and they started to breed, and then they decimated all the birds on this island. It used to be an island full of, lush with birds and rodents, and now it's lush with brown tree snakes. So now you take that same kind of logic of what really happens when we introduce different species into different ecosystems. And these are, you know, natural species, but they're not in their host ecosystem. What happens when we start to introduce synthetic biology into their non-natural ecosystems? Yeah, it could be a real big problem real quick. Oh, absolutely. Well, completely unpredictable. It could be two things. It could be, whoa, wow, we're lucky. Nothing happened. That's cool. And it works. Or it could be, oh, man, this is really bad. And we're in deep water. It's in the hands of the government. I'm kind of highly suspicious because I know in Michigan we had a moose problem. So some brain wizard in Lansing decides to airdrop wolves in there. to take care of the wolf, to take care of the moose. And now we've got a wolf problem. So then they have to go in and shoot the wolves. And I'm thinking, wouldn't you just like open it up for hunting and let the hunters take care of the moose and skip everything else downstream for that. It seems kind of silly to me, but I'm going to bring in Dr. David and Ralph a minute. So we've got Dr. David Kent and Ralph, the IT guy, because I'm sitting there watching in the back and I'm going, yeah, yeah, yeah. I want to talk, want to talk. Yeah. Hey, Andrew, nice to meet you. Nice to meet you as well. So you got any questions? Yeah, well, I mean, I was really wondering about AI and what's going on with AI and how that's going to or how you see it affecting your expertise. Yeah, that's a great question. So I actually used to develop AI for the three letter agencies. I started doing that back in like twenty thirteen or fourteen when I really hit the ground and we had the software to do it. We were using some fancy stuff called Markov chain models before that. And then I really advanced like the next year and then everyone made the switch. So AI is interesting. So I like to use this example for everyone that is scared of AI. AI is no different than a knife or a gun. A knife can be a tool to help you cut meat or it can be used to kill people. Firearms are the same thing. Firearms can be used to defend your rights and your freedom, or they can be used to go take other people's rights away. so uh ai is no different it's it's the application of how it's used you know there is some risk of ai becoming sentient meaning it decides that it doesn't like what we like and then has the ability to go transform the world around it that that I think that aspect of ai is still a long ways away probably a hundred years um But now how that can be used in health security and in medicine and the risks around it. Once again, AI is the next arms race. I think that President Trump signing the Stargate bill was genius. We should be the leaders in AI technology. I don't believe it should be regulated. And that's my same constitutional perspective on firearms. I mean, I believe everyone should be able to carry anywhere in the United States. And I hope that's in an executive order soon myself. But that aside, with AI, I mean, the approach is that we, I think we have to dominate it. I think you have to be the world's leader. And that means we have to be manufacturing the chips for it. We have to be manufacturing the software framework to make it so that people build off our technology. And the way that this has always worked, I mean, why President Biden's executive order to ban the export of AI chips to China was so stupid, is people are really naive of how the, some people I should say, are really naive of how this tech national security world works. If we manufacture it, we've got our back doors into it. So why wouldn't we want to be exporting our AI chips to China? It's the perfect thing to do if they need them. We're sending our back doors all over into their stuff. And they know this. I mean, nobody's stupid. And they try to find it and they isolate it. But they need the chips for peaceful purposes. You know, the idea is, well, we're not going to try to put these in our weapons or other technology to maintain their national security. And, you know, we should be the leader. So we should produce it here. We should manufacture it. We should be developing all the tech. I mean, Silicon Valley was built on the transistor. I mean, that's the history behind us, the United States being such a tech, a tech dominator is that Silicon Valley used to make silicon and silicon chips. And the next thing was transistors and silicon chips. And that's how it got the nickname. And that's why I created that magnet, magnetism and part of American technological capability. So, yeah. You know, I'd ask the question back to you. Do you have any concerns about AI? I have a lot of concerns about the fact that anybody controls or moderates it. So, like, I run a local AI because, you know, I think they're really afraid of that, that it's going to actually tell the truth in a lot of cases instead of being moderated by these big, you know, Microsoft and the rest of them that have their fingers in the pot there. whether it's here or anywhere, I have a little bit of a problem with this little technocracy going on and think that people should have access to it unmoderated. That's my biggest concern there. So open her up, let everybody run it. And my other concern is that we've pretty much proven that the government has absolutely no ability to moderate itself because all it takes is one bad apple to spoil the entire thing. and down she goes, right? So I have a concern that government is going to continue to get too big instead of cutting some of the oversight away, quite honestly. And I personally have about zero ability to trust that it's going to serve the people at this point in time without oversight and from dire consequences for traders. And that goes to treason with the accompanying punishment if they violate that public trust. I agree with much of what you're saying. It's hard to argue against that. The interesting side of AI is that it's a dangerous tool in the sense that It made highly complicated math and computing accessible to anyone. And the problem is you can ask an AI to do anything, just like you can ask what used to be like a Python or R statistical programming or computing language to do anything. And it always gives you an answer. But people are not trained with how to identify what's a valid or reliable answer. So one of the big concepts that people are trying to work on, the scientists who are behind the AI, and I've been a part of this really smart group of people that are sort of like the pioneers of AI. We chat and we have a drinking group on Friday nights, actually. And we sit around and we try to discuss where all the AIs and some of the things we're talking about, where the future is heading, is that really this validity constructs argument is critical at it because AI always will generate an answer. A computer will generate an answer, but it doesn't mean that it's accurate or it's right. And then the question is, well, you know, how do we know that it's right? Well, you know, we've been working with this high level mathematics and computing for years. So you start to get a sense of it, like how your human brain works, and you come up with methods to compare different AI outputs and ground truth it quickly because we realize that it has this weakness. But just like how you witness a child over the last or a young adult over the last ten to fifteen or twenty years, you know, they pull out your phone and they Google check you during conversation. Well, Google says X, Y or Z. And then you turn on and say, well, I don't care what Google says. I know this to be the truth. Well, that same problem has now just went will go from, you know, quote unquote, Googling something to using your eye for something. The eye will generate the answer. And this gets back to your point is that it needs to be localized. But the problem with how I actually works is that you need large data sets. And the larger the data set, the more reliable the information is. It doesn't make it necessarily more valid because if the sample set, meaning the data where it's selected from, if it has the same lie repeated over and over and over again and structured in different places in the data set where it samples from, it just regurgitates the lie and then tells it to you like it's true. And this is where where this could get really interesting. But what needs to happen from the government perspective here is that if NIST continues to work on creating better data standards and using data validity checks, like if information which is stored on NIST On blockchains becomes more difficult to fork and lie and manipulate. And there's always, you know, my security brain's kicking in here and I'm sort of thinking a lot. There's always ways to manipulate these things. There are ways to minimize the risk of using AI to lie and deceive people, but that'll never go away. As we just saw with the last election, last four years of understanding of how Google and Microsoft and social media and all these different platforms are. The best thing you do to combat the lies, at least from natural language processing AIs at least, is to educate people on how they can't, they might not always be right or accurate and have people, how this whole conversation started and to pick up where your last group conversation left off is that you need to have people questioning and questioning the AI. Because the moment that Americans start to believe everything that the AI tells them is accurate, the right ways to doing it, we've lost. And we're no different than the communist Borg that we all hate. Yeah, I agree with that entirely. Ralph, you have any questions? Oh, yeah. I was kind of wondering with what you're talking about with synthetic biology, kind of what your take on phage therapy is looking like. I think it's going to be, well, one, it's already a huge area of investment from the U.S. government. So like for my agency, or if I'm to assume control of that, they just received like another six hundred million to do R&D in that. And I think that it's actually probably one of the potential major areas for breakthrough in actually treating, especially like antimicrobial resistance, I think is an area where it's going to have huge impact. These things, are they able to reproduce on their own? Synthetic cells? Yes. So the interesting thing is the first side, if you go look up the seminal paper in science when this first happened, creates single cell life. So the first thing they do is they got to be self-sustaining. You know, once they fed it, its synthetic nutrients are on the outside of it, of its cell wall. And then the next thing is they get to self-replicate. And there's different technologies actually using it. So they use nanobots within the synthetic architecture to actually get to construct the next one. Isn't that crazy? It's scary. And what makes it more scary is something that you said that the universities are doing it. I think we're all, you know, have our eyes wide open about these universities. They're not necessarily what we thought they were. Yeah, they've been weaponized against us in many cases. I mean, it's an indoctrination camp from Marxist indoctrination camp to take over the minds of our youth. They're not teaching valuable skills as much as they are to make a part of a cog in the machine. So an unquestioned and unquestioning, you know, cog in the machine that says this is all supposed to be done. So we do it this way. People ask questions and they have no idea why they're doing it that way, but they do it that way anyway. And don't forget, scientists are on the tape from China. Yeah. And white men are the devil. I mean, that's the most important takeaway. Well, and another thing too that kind of goes along with that is all the programming that they do with all the gaming stuff, you know, psychological programming and conditioning. That really has... That's one of the things that really has promoted placing the control of AI into the hands of the people in a way that they can't take away without also getting rid of that tool because of the rise of GPUs that are powerful enough to play games. Most of the GPUs, that's where you get the parallel computing power enough to be able to do the local AI stuff. What I saw when all of the videos were coming out on Wuhan was, and I saw it right away, immediately when they were putting all the videos out, I'm like, this is AI. This is CGI. Because they couldn't render things exactly. And you could never get a camera to move around an object the way that they did. And they weren't maybe sophisticated enough and people may not have been sophisticated enough to see it, but they were the rendering and the backgrounds was, was the light was wrong. And the motion of the said cameras, the only way you could do that would be in gaming gaming software. So I was kind of like, yeah, I'm kind of not buying a lot of this stuff that I'm seeing and I'm still, and I'm buying less of it now what I'm seeing out there than what I did in That's why I wanted to go to D.C. I'm like, I want to get my eyes on this myself. I'm not going to believe anything in the news. I'm not going to believe anything in alternative news. I'm not going to believe anything that anybody shows me because it's too easy to hack. And that I think that that's the beautiful thing of citizen journalists that. You know, and I'm not talking like things like, you know, people that pop up out of the blue and all of a sudden Eric Prince is in front of everybody's face. We need to like start questioning some of this stuff. But people that you actually know that are just normal, everyday Americans, that's important right now. Andrew, do you have any thoughts on why President Trump put a gag order on your entire department, basically? What's going on with the CDC, everything? There's no communication. Yeah, so I think the strategy – actually, it's not just – well, so the gag order on the administration is so that the current folks that are in there that are not Trump appointees – are not poisoning the well, because that's what they've been trying to do ever since the election ended. So there have been tons of communications with HHS personnel, and they've been working directly with people that we consider, at least at Maha, to be snakes and NGOs, funneling the money and basically getting them to sabotage everything that we're trying to do. So that executive order makes perfect sense. I completely support it. The other thing that's happening behind the scenes, which, you know, I didn't know if you're aware it was conflated or not, but basically anyone that's up for a Senate hearing, whether it's like Cash Patel, RFK, and then down the chain. So one, the White House put a gag order on all of us not to be on social media. That had to be Senate confirmed. Then the other thing that's happening is that, you know, once you're in the position where you're up for confirmation, it is a bad idea to be active in the media or do anything to rattle the cage so all the different teams are on communications lockdown and a lot of people outside the government and people from um who have a lot of experience in dc are really upset about this and this goes across all political factions but people who are old-time dc insiders like why why aren't your landing teams doing this why aren't your transition teams doing this why aren't you guys doing x y or z well If everything that we had done in the past with the US government last fifty years had worked, we wouldn't be in the situation that we are in today. So I'm completely open to anything that any strategy that the White House wants to put forward to help get the nominees through and to shake up the beast. And I think I think it's working. I'm I'm happy. So I'm I'm in the dark communication wise. And I was really worried. I'm like, are they just, you know, like leading me along here? And I'm not really being nominated for this position anymore. And so I started talking to other people across the government who were in my position at different agencies that, you know, whether it was like the FBI or DHS, and then HHS, I ran into other people who would be my peers. And I'm asking, I'm like, hey, you know, what have you heard? You know, what's going on here? Am I the only one that's in the dark? And we all had a little bit different pieces of information that we're able to collect because we're all trying to collect intelligence on each other and what's going on. And everyone's in the same boat. So what I can report is that happy to report is that everybody is in the dark until we get the call like to show up. And that's the way that they're doing things. And actually, that makes me very happy because that's then information is not going to be leaked out to the media. It helps the White House negotiate different agreements with the Senate to get their confirmations through. You know, people probably don't like to hear that. Oh, it's swampy. You know, you shouldn't be negotiating, but that's just not the nature of the beast. DC is not going to change overnight. And, you know, this is the process and we have to go through it. So I'm happy with how it's going. And even the best part is, you know, I'm still friends with like, you know, card carrying CIA, DI people who are very old school and been in the government, you know, for And I, and, you know, we always, you know, to be, I used to work at a three letter and we always look at each other, you know, questioning each other because we don't necessarily know what's true or who's good, but you develop relationships over time. Right. And, you know, the people that have actually helped me from that world, you know, I listened to them a little bit more and I have good relationships with, and they told me that they were all seeing the same thing. So, you know, here I have people internal to the system telling me the same thing. And, and I've got the IC people that are still in it telling me the same thing. So yeah. You know, it's not going as fast as we want, but I think it's a good process. Hopefully it's quiet because they're going on a long walk somewhere where we will never see a lot of these guys again that committed treason. And they're not ready to say anything until all the swamp is rounded up and, you know, ready to never be walking the streets again, you know. That kind of goes with my question. Like there's so much distrust and especially your side of the government that you're going to be going into, you know, the medical, food, you know, industrial health complex and in the shots and what happened with COVID. And there's just a lot of distrust out there. What kind of things are you thinking about to like rebuild that trust and Like, if people just disappear, I don't think it does anything for the public to, you know, gain trust. You almost got to put them on stand and say, hey, this is what you did. I mean, so when Bobby's transition team put me, called me up to interview the spot, and then they, you know, gave me the position. You know, I had a couple things I had to do by request of the White House immediately, and I did that. And then I thought, you know, me being a military guy, like, well, I'm in the absence of orders. What do I do? I'm like, well, I get to get to action. So I started having meetings, stakeholder groups, and just getting to work without any instruction. And then, you know, there were several times where I realized I was getting into like swampy political issues. And, you know, I'm like, oh, you know, maybe I should be careful here. Maybe I shouldn't say that. You know, maybe I should try to get the, you know, the pharmaceutical companies on board. I'm like, And I just had a reflection point. Bobby and the transition team, the president, wouldn't be asking me to go into this position if they expected me to do anything different than what I did over the past four years. And I've been calling for accountability. I'm saying that we need to hang Anthony Fauci. We need to hang Peter Daszak. And we need to hang Ralph Baric. I mean, this is not hyperbole when I said these things. I firmly believe that these people deserve the death penalty. And I've actually been pushing for that on social media for years, and I laid out the legal argument for it. You know, the capital crimes that they've committed. People say crimes against humanity, but we don't even have to get there. I mean, they actually committed treason. They exported advanced bioweapons technology to a foreign enemy. And this is all on the record. Even at the hearings that I attended over the last two years where, you know, Anthony Fauci testified in front of Cohen Select, his last one, Peter Daszak, Morins. I was at these hearings. Oh. And, you know, what they kept off the camera for the general public is that when the attorneys and counsel come up at the end to ask the top questions to get out of the record, most people weren't paying attention and listening to that stuff. And that's where you get Dasik admitting to working with the CIA and FBI, Ralph Baric in the transcript working with the CIA and the FBI. Fauci admitting and Dasik admitting that they exported basically bioweapons technology to the Chinese. They've admitted to all this crap already. And this is treason. And there's no pardon for treason. There's no pardons for capital crimes, and people don't understand that. Just because the president issues a blanket pardon for all these activities doesn't mean that they're going to stick. And the first thing that we start having in our conversations is, how do we hold people accountable? So back to the root of your question is, Well, how do we get people to regain trust in health and human services and related agencies for food, cosmetics and drugs? Well, it's simple. We hold the bad actors accountable. OK, we make it very public. The corrupt officials in the government. So through Doge, we got the order, the requirement for who has to be a part of Doge. So we're supposed to have an attorney, an engineer. Um, an HR specialist and I'm forgetting something. Well, I was already ahead of the curve. So I created an office or I'm creating an office of oversight and accountability. Um, and I put a director position, um, in that and, you know, consuming that, assuming that I'm actually allowed to do this with some attorneys that I say this group of people probably knows well that are real ass kickers. And we're going to conduct very public investigations, and we're going to work with the good people, the three letters of Cash Patel, and we're going to make very public examples of bad officials in the government and the people that have been grifting with the government outside of the contractors. And you make a good example out of these people, and that's the first step to how you restore confidence. You hold people accountable. The second thing is then you actually start to deliver results. It's not so much – don't evaluate me based on what I say. Evaluate me based on what I produce, and that's what I tell everyone. And I have a long track record of flipping failing organizations, companies, and enterprises and making them successful. And I'm already cracking the whip, and I don't care if – how politics works and how your professional career works. And inevitably you bring your friends in and people you work with who are good. It doesn't mean that they can all do the job. I mean, I already fired a couple of people who were just that I was nominating for appointment because they weren't doing the job. And then, you know, hopefully that I create a culture where people, you know, figure out on their own, whether or not they want to work for me and they either leave, you know, because they don't want to work in my environment that I'm creating. I create sort of a hostile environment at first and make it really competitive and weed those people out, and then hopefully the champions rise to the top. And then once we have the team of champions, we go and we, you know, we chop. You know, they call it in the purple world whaling. You know, so I'm whaling within my corporate enterprise, so to speak, within the government structure already because I want the best people. And, you know, if I'm going to be working at our weeks, you know, I'm not going there to get I don't want to do this to go get rich. OK, I've already turned down. I'm not kidding. So like over the past six months, I had JP Morgan Health try to basically hand me twenty five million dollars on a couple of different occasions and I walked away from it. To get you out of there. Yeah, to get me out of there. And I don't care about the money at this point. Like, I don't care about the money. I want the country to be on the right track. So, you know, screw it. That's what I'm going to do. That's awesome, man. Because that's the way we are. We're like, screw this whole money, fame, and fortune thing. This is nonsense. We just want the nation back. Yeah. Water freedom's back. I don't want stupid, the government involved in every aspect of it. In my case, you know, like Crooked State Patrol and Whitmer breaking into my house, you know, and yeah, the pharmaceutical companies, all this crap. Like you want law enforcement officers to be trustworthy, right? You don't want to, I used to, I'm sure at one time in my life, I trusted the FBI. You know, I thought the FBI was great. You know, I thought state police were great. All these different groups. And, you know, what did we do? Oh, we had the most of us spoke our mind and told the truth and wanted to be left alone. I mean, us terrible Americans. I mean, it's just insane. We just want our freedom, right? And shame on us for wanting our freedom and question their little power structure. Ralph, you got anything that's on your mind right now? No, it's just really interesting. This is a lot of good information. Oh, I'm sorry. Go ahead. No, just a lot of good information. Yeah. Just having a good time just listening. Are there agencies that are supposed to overlook HHS and, you know, that failed and somehow failed us because of all, I mean, all this stuff was allowed to go on behind the scenes. And the American public still doesn't know, like you said, you know, about these hearings and stuff. I mean, people are still lining up for vaccines. And I mean, what is going on? Where was the failure and the breakdown? Yeah. Everywhere. I mean, so the public health is across several different agencies, mostly at Health and Human Services, Department of Homeland Security has their hand in to some extent, USDA, DOD, Department of Veterans Affairs. Department of Veterans Affairs is the largest health system in the world. Most people forget that. So these are the core agencies around health. Department of Energy dabbles in just a tiny bit, but that's an edge case. We won't discuss that. So DOD, Department of Veterans Affairs, HHS, USDA are the big ones. And DHS interfaces will follow them. Well, HHS is a cabinet level position. So the organization that's supposed to be overseeing each cabinet level position is the Office of the Inspector General. I had submitted whistleblower complaints with almost every OIG that I could legally, and not one did their job correctly. The best one that handled things correctly was DOD, actually. So, you know, I had real smoking guns to give to DOD. And I actually asked the DOD OIG, investigated whether or not you could find out whether they were open to using UCMJ tribunals against Anthony Fauci and Peter Daszak. And he came back to me a couple of days and said, we got word back. Yes, we are open to using the tribunal process. And this was while Biden was still in office against these people. So there are warring factions, but they didn't advance the investigation. They just sort of quietly went away. And I never got the results of the OIG investigation report, which has been happening all too frequently. Everyone I know that filed a substantiated OIG complaint within the last four years didn't receive the report back from the agency, which means that there are probably findings favorable to what we had claimed, but they didn't want to do anything about it. So they just bury the report. And so the process is already there. And this is, this is what I think the kind of where your question is getting at. I've got, I've received this question a lot over the last six months and I thought about really hard, you know, Everyone says this can never happen again. What can we do to prevent this from ever happening again? Whether it's like lockdowns, COVID policies, vaccines, J-six, you name it. What can we do to prevent this from happening again? Well, there's a fortunate reality that everyone has to deal with. There's nothing we can do to prevent it from happening again because there's no policy that you can write which can prevent an individual in the government from acting criminally. And the weakness of our constitution is that we have no process. If everyone, if numerous officials in the government are acting criminally together as a Rico kind of situation, like if you have the Senate or multiple members of the executive branch, all acting criminally together, then, We have no process to remove them. I mean, the impeachment process for government officials assume that you had one individual or maybe two individuals acting bad and, you know, you'd bring them in front of, you know, the House and the Senate, you have this process to process to remove senior government officials, but when it's you've got the judiciary congress and the executive branch all in the scam together yeah you you have there's no recourse so we are our government the only the only solution to prevent this from happening again is to take over it we have to the good people we have to take over their government I think the sentiment here is we don't care about the money well this is why we're all getting in to take care of it take over because if we don't we have no other option we're going to be victims It almost seems like we need the military to take over running the government for a few years just to get rid of all of the corruption and whatever's going on. Because it just permeates deep into even local communities. you know, municipalities and cities and, you know, it's everywhere. And I don't think that the way our government is structured today, even with people like you coming in, you're not going to be able to find it all and run your organization at the same time and continue growing and building our country. You know, I just pause and come in and I do think that there's a plan or that there is a way to do that, but it relies on each one of us from stepping forward and taking the responsibility as our own, as a personal responsibility for not only showing up, talking to them and such, but every single one of us should be suing these people personally, which gives us the ability to remove them. So if you see somebody who's breaking the law outside of their delegated office, authority, you have to step up and say, I'm going to figure out how to do this, not necessarily with the corrupt as hell Bar Association, the private membership association, not a license to practice law, but that we need to step up and we need to sue these individuals until there is nothing left. And I'm not kidding you. and removing them and disqualifying them as part of the settlement of ever serving ever, ever, ever again. If we had one super honest person, let's just say a governor in a state, I think the precedent would be set for absolutely having that power back to the states and moving it away from collectivism into back closer to the people. All of that working together, there is a way out of this. and then also holding the corporations who have citizens, have made themselves into having the rights of a person, we need to hold them accountable for that. And all of that stuff, the treaties, all the treaties have to be gone. All of these things have to stop. Go back and nullify, nullify, nullify. If I were President Trump right now, And any governor that knows that they're going to go right down with it with a corruption ship, I would be like ordering a semi full of pens to use for nullification. Gone, gone, gone, gone, gone, gone, gone, gone, gone, gone, gone, gone, all over the place until we get this thing back to what it was supposed to look like. And I think that. you know, I think we would have an answer there. And then if somebody breaks the law, the judges are in on it, bring the handkerchief. They need to be removed, you know, bring them all down. I mean, they're breaking the law and making up stuff on the fly. Like Jonathan Brader was doing in the state of Michigan here, the head of board of elections, they need to be absolutely canceled from their, from their activities online. whatever it may be, so that they may never have the power to make a bad decision again. I do think it could be interesting to see what happens if some of these people accept these pardons. What could potentially happen with excluding them from Fifth Amendment protections and see how many other people around them could get caught? I think that's what happened with the Biden pardons too, because several of them, they kind of were not made ineligible to tell the truth. So hopefully they get up there and they start singing like a fricking canary and bringing the whole putrid, messed up mess right down on itself. House of cards, whammo, falls. All we have to do is have a couple of modest, or at least a couple of wives. Someone brought that up with the Anthony Fauci part. All they have to do is put him on the stand and ask him whether he lied in his previous anything related to his previous part. If he says boom, they got him either way. It's really easy to get these guys tied up even related to their part if they want to. The Hunter Biden thing, I look at him like, wow, that guy lived a really crazy life. The real meat in there was the fact that he He was basically brokering deals to basically sell us all out to the Chinese for his dad. I mean, that was the real issue with the Hunter Biden stuff, you know, all the drugs and the prostitutes and all that crazy behavior that he was into and his addiction stuff. I mean, that wasn't the issue. I mean, I wish the media would have focused more heavily on, you know, him being the bag man for his dad and the Burisma kind of stuff. But we can get these people. I mean, the question is not there's a political will. And I think the bigger issue thinking ahead long term of how do we get ourself out of the situation? You know, I told Bobby Kennedy via text about three months ago leading up to the election when I actually I was trying to convince him to endorse Trump because he was still running against him at that time. I said, you know, Bobby, we're we're looking at the next thirty years. We're not looking at the next four. And I believe that. We didn't get into this position overnight. We got here really over seven or eight years. And how do we raise the next generation of people behind us to be moral and ethical and have good values? And I think that's really the most important thing that we can deal with within the next four years is be focused on the next generation. You know, in my area of health security, for example, I see what's happening. So, you know, there's probably only a handful of experts like myself in the world that are trained under sort of the Bush years to be national defense, bioweapons, chemical experts of the public health and, you know, also food focus, right? There's just not many of us who have... either laboratory skills or heavy quantitative skills. And I'm heavy on the quantitative side. Like how many of us are out there, right? It takes a long time to train with us. Plus they have to have, you know, be maybe military trained or like a national security mindset. It's just hard to find these people while they created programs to train people like me and to get us ready to take over the helms of a sub agency like mine. And I was just on a phone call with one of the people today that I've worked with in this, my, my whole career. And, You know, we know, ten good people, and the people that that trained us our mentors all retired within the last you know five to six years, and they're getting old and they're dying and so we, the scary thing is we don't have the next crop of people like me behind me, we don't, we don't know who they are and we're talking now about how we can create, you know, and this is where taxpayer spending has to go. It's like, how do we, how do we train these people? Because if I go away and the handful of people that, that really know this stuff will go away. Um, it's not just the cost of, um, what's been invested in someone like me, which is probably like a hundred million dollars. I'm not kidding. And all of us probably, probably a billion dollars of funding went to go create this, these ten experts, right? It's a crazy amount of money. Um, If we go away and our mentors go away, all the institutional knowledge about everything we know in the deep state and the classified world goes away. So it's not just so much that we're good at our job, it's that we know the system and where the information is and the people and the capabilities that the taxpayers funded it. And I started to see this when I was first brought into the so-called deep state, was that the government gets in this vicious cycle of, spending money on research and programs that already exist or have already been completed. Nobody's aware of it. And it's locked in a top secret cabinet somewhere. And there's tremendous resources have been dumped on us, this group of people, so that we know where all this stuff is. And I can get on the phone and say, hey, I need to get that top secret thing out of there. So we need to work on it. But if someone doesn't know it exists, you know, you get some bright young person, you know, bright, but not knowledgeable or not wise in D.C. Like, oh, we need to do X, Y or Z. And then Congress dumps out another, you know, fifty or one hundred million to fund the same thing we already did twenty years ago. And it happened. This very thing happened two weeks ago, actually. Someone came up and we're on a conference call and DHS wanted to invest some more money into this research program idea. And my friend was on the call and he's like, yeah, they cited your work that you did twenty five years ago. And I said, it's already done. But here they were, they were about to dump out some crazy, you know, fifty, sixty million dollars to solve this problem that I had already solved, you know, twenty five years ago. And this is the real danger. This is what you know, this is why we have to be careful. It's not so much that the deep state's the problem. You know, the deep state is a problem in the sense that you have self-serving individuals in these government positions. The deep state wasn't originally created with the idea that these people are going to be put in there to enrich themselves and be terribly corrupt. The idea was that they wanted to have government officials in there who could be in the system and be aware of everything that was going on. to prevent further waste in the future. But it's very easy if you get a corrupt person into one of those types of positions. And I've certainly known some like me. And Dr. Anthony Fauci is the example that everybody knows that they can send a whole entire government off the rails. And, you know, it can be a bit of a catch point, too. So really, we need to be focusing on, you know, values, ethics and morals. And, you know, that comes from a place of religion for a lot of people. And that's very important to get in the next generation of America's future leaders. and stop the revolving, you know, government to private, you know, they make so much money in private, especially in the pharmaceutical industry that they're, you know, it's like spend a few years. I've done it. I mean, yeah. I don't think we can fix anything without having got involved in it quite honestly, because we, we have to have that, that I don't know. I don't think we can fix it without God. That's all I'm going to say, because we have to have that not only as guidance and as direction when we're navigating waters like we're in right now that are so convoluted that the quickest and easiest way needs to be there. But the other thing is the entire nation needs to turn towards God so that we personally have the honor, the integrity, the those invisible characteristics which compel us to serve each other rather than ourself. And I think that that's the biggest thing is to get away from self and serve the nation, serve our communities, our families, and put ourselves in the path of threats that come at us both foreign and domestic. And I'm sure that all of us have said the oath at some point in time that we are here to serve. yeah well a lot of people are here to serve but they're also serving the dollar you know even the uh that um bishop and I don't know if you guys saw that you know at trump's uh you know at the when he went to mass and that bishop woman you know scolding him about you know you guys didn't see that I was probably trying to run around dc trying to get to the next place that I was like they're hiding everywhere They're hiding everywhere. They hide behind God. They hide everywhere, even behind God. It's money, too, I think is a very big deal in government. If Trump says the right thing, he wants the best and the brightest, but they can go to the pharmaceutical industry and make ten times more money. We need to pay to get the best and the brightest in all of science. We've got to do that from the start so they don't have this – Oh, they can go make more money and then they become corrupted. You know, not everybody, obviously, not Andrew, didn't happen to you, but a lot of people do get corrupted and, you know, they're faking clinical studies and pushing drugs that are killing people. It's tough. Well, that should be a death penalty if they jump into that and they're a traitor to humanity. That should be an automatic death penalty if they're engaging in that sort of thing. Well, they do. Well, so so so, Doc, to your point. So I've been a huge advocate of, you know, my my leadership style is that I'm a servant leader and I don't take any of this government pay stuff, even for my employees, even at organizations that work at companies. I always thought I was radical. Like I asked the person, what does it take to pay you so that you're not distracted in your life and you can completely focus on work? Because the only thing I care about from an organizational management perspective is the output of the employee, whether it's government, corporate, any place I worked. And when you ask people that, it's interesting, and I've been doing it for a number of years now. You get their number, and sometimes it's low than where you want to be, and sometimes it's above. and um you know I never lowball the people I always put them where I think they should be in if they they need more make them justify why and the government should be matching private sector officers or comping private sector offers for top talent and this is how you break the revolving door I mean if you want someone who is like uh you know uh dr borla quality caliber I mean he you know what kind of person is aside he is an expert in his field and he's very good and if you look a lot of leaders in pharmaceutical industry and I used to be one so I was a pharma executive And even worse, pharma tobacco executive. So if you look at the talent that they recruit, they get the best people, the smartest people. I mean, I helped save a crumbling industry. But we... you know they're selecting to that and we asked the question well why would I go work at the government and actually when the government tried to come uh capture me when I was working in the industry they couldn't offer me enough money and like oh we wanted to this is when covet first started spreading you know part of my story is I was contacted by a deep state woman that I used to work with from uh cia and dod and she tried to give me my dream job at darpa and I asked her like how much does it pay and she's like oh hundred and eighty a year I'm like a hundred and eighty a year. And I'm like, you know, big swanky house out in California and all this stuff. And I'm like, I don't need a year. I'm like, do it. And I asked him like the obvious question. I knew the answer. I'm like, do I have to have a top secret clearance again? She's like, yeah, you're going to have to be, you know, top secret cleared. You'll be working in the skiff every day. And I already had that. I'm like, oh, God. I'm like, no, thank you. But we really want you. You'll call it, you know, we'll hire your wife, Emily. We'll take you back. And I'm like, okay. She's like, just sleep on it and we'll talk again. So I went home and discussed with Emily and Emily. She was out there with me in California making all this money. Look, do you want to go back to that? No, no. And so I spoke, you know, her name's Dr. I'm forgetting, Amy. I spoke with Amy on the phone the next day. I'm like, you know, Amy, thank you for the offer, but I'm just, we're really not interested. Well, do you change your mind in the next couple of days? Well, little did I know, they knew already that SARS-CoV-T was already spreading around the planet. They were trying to get me to go work in the system so they could shut me up. But here's the thing. If they would have offered me, if they would have matched my salary when I was making over at pharma and biotech, I would have taken it probably in a second because I like doing that kind of work more. And how that relates back, you know, I've realized this through my life experience is that every person that I've asked to work with me in the new administration, if I get the call and get confirmed and all these things, well, then I'm going to pay them whatever it takes. I'll give them a bonus. I'll go to, you know, I'll send a letter to exception memo and have, you know, my boss or the deputy approve it. There's ways around this in the government. The government just doesn't, usually it's full of, you know, frankly, there's a lot of government managers that fall into two categories at a high level. They're either idiots or they're lazy. And they get sick of like being told, no, they're not willing to go fight. And I will fight for every one of my employees. Like I used to have a policy that everyone down to the G six level, GS six level in the government gets a reward of going to a conference or an educational event. opportunity of their choosing as long as it aligns with the government mission but to expand their horizon and you know it costs the government um you know twenty five hundred bucks uh to five thousand bucks to send them somewhere for a week employees love it big deal because you know if this person comes back and they have uh they're more educated they expand their social network it's going to make our influence better and more effective in the government plus they're going to be happy it's a reward and it has to be um It has to be earned. So if you're a non-performing employee at any level against the performance plan, well, we're pushing them out the door and they're not getting their reward anyway. So it's carrots and sticks. And too long, it's just too many people in the government who just don't want to rock the boat. The bureaucrats and the technocrats don't want to rock the boat. And the thing is, you have to get people in there who want to work and actually do things. And that leadership comes from the top. And that really starts at my hypothetical position here, which is the assistant secretary. And we have to push that down. It's not the secretaries that get things done, the government. I spoke with my mentors, my deep state mentors that are all pissed off about how everything is going, too. And they're retired. And they said very pointedly, God forbid they put someone rational like you at that level in the government. Everyone's going to have a meltdown. And they go on top of it. The biggest issue is that the secretaries don't do the work. The people who really run the government are people at your level. Workers. Yeah. Well, the assistant secretary levels are the people who actually run the organization. So it's like you run your own little mini corporation within the thing. And I'm going to treat it very corporate-like because that's what they need. I mean, we need to get people off their butts and get them out the door. Or we need to elevate the people who can perform. Because not everyone in the government is that. people you know that you know good people you know government and you know how come they didn't they don't speak up are they just not allowed to are they afraid they're going to get fired or like what's the fear if there's some good people there's got to be good people you know that know what's going on or going on you know say during covid like why didn't they speak up Well, many have. So I've hired all like this. Wow. So the people that I appointed underneath me were all whistleblowers or spoke up or were retaliated against. That's a good qualifier right there. Yeah. So they have an axe to grind. I mean, this is the best thing. People who have an axe to grind and people who have already been tested. So you want to talk about the major acts to grind? That's Bobby Kennedy right there. He's got he's got many decades of of access to grime grind against the criminals here. I've got a question here from Clarity Sage. How many labs are functioning as counter bio labs? Because we've heard that there's about three hundred and fifty bio labs that the United States is running across the planet. Um, okay. So I don't know what a counter counter bio lab is. So biological laboratories, which could be used for dual use, um, in the United States, I think it was probably, uh, an underestimate because these labs, and I'm not gonna say that us, the people have to understand it's not just the us government running these, uh, it could be the state governments. It could be the federal government. It could be the private sector. Yeah. The private sector and academia, uh, these, these, these, this technology to, to manipulate, um, existing pathogens and agents is becoming cheaper, more affordable, and easier for people at a lower level to use every day. Now they have this thing where, well I shouldn't say now, it's existed for about twenty years, it's called the Select Agent List. And the Select Agent List is the list that the U.S. government is really concerned about in terms of what could be manipulated or weaponized. The thing is, this type of thing, you know, how this conversation started when it was just you and I, Donna, is that this type of thinking about the select agent list is outdated. And it's not really, really the concern list. Well, yes, it's still a concern and it's not going away. It's low level. And the thing we really need to be focused on is synthetic biology. So, you know, of this gain of function technology that could be used to weaponize. Probably easily a couple thousand laboratories worldwide. Okay. Could you make a trigger to shut off synthetic biology? You could. Like, make a law that they have to put this in every cell they make, no matter what it is. Yeah, you could. Like, for single-celled, you could do it in viruses, too, to make it so at some point, like, the protein synthesis would... Stop. Yeah, stop. So, yeah, you could do this. Stop codons, right? Like, that's sort of... Anyway, so we're getting to the weeds here for this conversation, at least, to confuse everyone else and talk about that stuff. It's a skill to learn not to go too far in the weeds, I've learned. Yeah. I don't know that, that whole aspect of it sounds pretty interesting to me. Let's go right in the weeds here, guys. You know, I really thank you for being on here today, Andrew, so much. And I mean, I think so highly of you and what you guys are working on. I thank you for every single person that's out there working in this area to write what's wrong and what we've watched really be a threat to the to humanity and just thank you so much for all that you've endured for the attacks and the raids. and that sort of thing. And we're just very grateful that people like you, yourself, would stand up with honor to help this nonsense. And thank you. Let's say a prayer, and then I'd like to ask you to come back on. And then some of your connections. I'm going to see if we can get some of your connections. And I'd love to get Bobby Kennedy on here and have a discussion with him. I got to talk to him. Is it okay if I contact you, Andrew? Oh, absolutely. OK, thanks. So I think I think what we can do, though, is to have you come back on. And I'd love that and get into some of these deeper questions that this is a nerd audience here. Not anybody speaks to Brandenburg News Network. They're probably a nerd, you know, and they want to get into the nitty gritty of all these things that are going on and really actually find out how how it works. This isn't the CNN crowd here. So I'd love to talk to you about more of that sort of thing. But I'd like to end with a prayer and then give everybody a few minutes to talk. We don't have a stop here, but let's go ahead and say a prayer and then give everybody a few more minutes to talk. Okay. Dear Heavenly Father, thank you so very much for Andrew and David and Ralph and Karen. And and Sean and all the wonderful people that are willing to step forward to bring the truth and to us all and to try to set things right to accomplish it. And I know we can accomplish it with your guidance and your leading. And as we walk away from some of these horrible things, please help convict people, the entirety of the United States and the world, that this problem comes down to a simple problem. It's our lack of relationship with you and our lack of following your example of doing the correct things and which are all the invisible characteristics that you bring, that you built into us and our souls and our spirits. that love of each other, the love of the goodness that can come out when we all work together and we live as one family, one American family, one human family under you following your lead. You're good all the time. We love you. We want to be like you. Just help us to know what to do and we will try to follow you as best as we can every step of the way. You've been a great friend to us and we want to be a friend to you, your best friends. In the name of Jesus Christ, we pray. Amen. okay amen all right so let's let's start out with uh who wants to start first and we're just going to start discussing here and tell for a few minutes all right I'm going to go get coffee right back hey I this is this is preparation for the show I'll be right back okay that's pretty uh pretty scary you know just being a doctor I can see you know I can see all kinds of scenarios where you know as we know our government is like out of control the universities are out of control and the fact that they're making synthetic biology is just really scary because like a couple of cells can get away and we may not be able to shut these things off they could contaminate they could like destroy all of our food crops and make it so we can't eat they can kill people everything um well you know it's scary it's double-edged sword though because there's there's bad sides to that and that uh you know with increasing access to that kind of technology that bad actors could use it to do bad things on the other hand uh increasing access to that technology also means that it is available to good people to be able to counteract those bad people doing those bad things. Yeah. No, there's obviously, I'm not a guy that worked in, in, uh, you know, like the bio labs and such, he helped construct bio labs. And one of the things he told me is that no matter what they create, there's always a separate facility right there that has the antidote to it because they realize that if they create something bad, it can also take them out. So there's always, there's always an antidote. It's the fact that they're not allowing us to have access to this because they're, you know, these people are diabolical, but I don't really think they want to kill themselves in the process. So if they do have something, there is going to be something that counters it. And I do believe that. And there are some incredibly smart people out there who are good people who would gladly hop in there and start working on stuff if they had the ability to do so. to be able to counteract a threat like that. In fact, some of this even is not all that new technology. I mean, heck, there was a guy that I saw a presentation on that, I think this was probably about six years ago, who engineered a... He engineered, I believe it was a virus, to change the genetics of his gut cell walls to be able to better host the bacteria for breaking down lactose so that he could make himself lactose tolerant. And that was years ago. And he went through the whole process of here's how I engineered the virus that I then swallowed myself. And here's where I had it synthesized. And basically he just sent them the RNA that he wanted synthesized. And this lab sent him back this synthesized virus. And then he tried it on himself. You know, so some of these tools have actually, they've been in development for a while now. Oh, yeah. No, I think all these technologies can be used for very great. I can see incredible things like literally curing cancers and all kinds of stuff. But I was just saying while you were gone, Andrew, I'm scared because I know like what it could do in the wrong hands. And you look at the government that just seems out of control right now. Nobody's overlooking anything. You know, Ralph just gave an example of some guy making something in his basement. So I had my headset on as I walked around the house. I had it muted here, but so I heard everything that you guys discussed. It's a good thing you weren't talking about me when we had my back. You should take a shower before it comes on. It's pretty much right out there. At least I decided to wear pants for this interview. That's usually not the case. The risks and the benefits, that's any technology. I studied with this brilliant guy. His name was Dr. Lockwood Carlson. And he was ancient when I had him as a master's student. So he was teaching an advanced technology course. And this was taught by brilliant people like DARPA and working in all like the top secret technology in the world. I was in this security technology engineering program, which was, you know, new part of like deep state funding to group people like me. But anyways, Lockwood Carlson's PhD advisor was Albert Einstein. So to give you an idea how old this guy was. And so he was really smart. And at first, you know, like, oh, God, this old guy is coming in here and talking about the good old days of Einstein. Where's this going to go? And, you know, he did said he said something brilliant that I'll never forget. And I quote Austin, he said, you never predict the future use of a new technology. And you can sort of guess where it's going to go. But when you're talking about one specific technology, in this case, synthetic biology, we have no clue how it's going to go. And he had us do this. Next, he had us do this exercise, which I won't forget. He goes, well, we're going to do something really interesting here. So this is something called Futurig. And there's like these Futurig conferences. And he introduces us to this world. So first of all, it's like thirty percent nut jobs. There's thirty percent nut jobs in the futuring world. These are like the tinfoil hat wearers. Nobody can understand anything that they say and they show up, but they want to be part of what the future is. And then the other like, you know, another thirty percent are like somewhere in the middle, eccentric people. Maybe I somewhat fall into that category. And the other thirty percent are like hardcore physicists and scientists and engineers. They're like looking to the future. Anyway, they all get together and they have a conference. And one of the ideas that they came up with is like, hey, let's benchmark what we think the future technologies would be. So they survey everyone who shows up. And they asked them to predict the next one hundred technologies, which will be true by the next fifty years. They went back and they repeated this process among Einstein students and then became something they used to do at the University of Wyoming, where Einstein was faculty. And anyways, then he shows us the list of what they predicted. So he puts up the list on the projection screen and we look at it. And, you know, interestingly, The students were able to predict about seventy percent of future technologies. One that they got wrong back in the fifties and sixties was a flying car. Everyone thought the flying car was to be a reality. And we're just starting to get there today, maybe with like these flying drone car things. So then he had our class to it and I saved it. And I have to go pull it out in, I guess, like, twenty forty and take a look at it and see how accurate we were. But some of the ones that I remember, they're already already coming to life because the biggest one that the class this is back in twenty ten. We thought the biggest area for future growth would be the confluence of computers and biology. And then we did some like for people, I don't know how many of you are from business world, but like have MBAs and things we did like SWOT SWOT analysis. And we did like some hype cycling around how this was going to go. And, um, You know, now I look at where we are with that prediction, how we focused on it in the class, because everyone was certain that this era is going to take off, even though we had no idea how it was going to go. And here we are now today talking about the confluence of AI and health and biological technology. And it actually really started to take off in like, with CRISPR. So like when CRISPR first came out, I was working at EcoHealth. It's funny, so there's another guy there who's still there, probably because he can't get a job anywhere else, Dr. Kevin Olival. And Dr. Peter Daszak trained, was one of the trainers of Kevin. Kevin went to Columbia, and he's a really brilliant scientist, actually. Ethics, you know, questionable. But anyways, Kevin came into my office, and we both got the email or saw the peer-reviewed publication that you could now get CRISPR on a thumb drive to run the AI processing to figure out how to manipulate RNA and DNA to make it fit puzzle pieces, basically, because you're fitting stuff. And it was only like seven grand to buy the thumb drive. And then you had to pay a pretty hefty subscription fee. It was like two grand a year. But in our world, that's like a drop in the bucket. I'm like, are you getting one? He's like, yeah, I think I'm going to get one. I'm like, I think I'm going to get one too. And he's like, can you imagine all the crazy stuff we could do with this? Well, wow, look how that went. You know, so they ended up continuing after I left in twenty sixteen. They kept on engineering SARS-CoV-T stuff. But that's the technology. And that's that's where they're heading. Now you fast forward to twenty twenty four that this type of this this deep processing that you can do with AI technology. It's. We're at a point in computing where. Anything that you can creatively think of can be done. It's just a matter of time and money. And as the AI becomes more advanced, the money issue becomes less of an issue. So we're really in the context of where that intersects with biology. We're at a point where anything is possible. So I can't stress enough the positive aspects implications of AI and biology. I mean, it could be, you know, people want to say the cure for cancer, but like a lot of research, like ivermectin could be the wonder drug for, for cancer. And they've just been sitting on it and there's other substances too, which, which, you know, there's probably gonna be some truth to it. I don't think it'll be the total like silver bullet kind of solution, but you know, imagine, imagine having a broken bone. Okay. You have a severe fracture in your femur and you go to the clinic and they rub some synthetic biological material on your leg or inject it into the site of the break. And it's like a nanobot synthetic goo that they put in there. It helps your body repair and restructure it in minutes. I mean, this is the kind of technology that could be real. And there was a lot, I worked with another person who was on the forefront of this stuff as a PhD student. She taught my toxicology courses and she was brilliant too. And everyone thought she was sort of quirky. And I think, you know, they always think the bright scientists were quirky. She was working on the effects of nanoparticles inside the body. So what are the toxicological effects of ingesting nanos? Well, we've seen some of this. Like they've got, you know, most males in the United States now have microplastics in our testicles. And this is from us ingesting it through the supply chain. These things are so small that they end up in weird places in your body. And, you know, this is another truism. And does this have a... some effect on human health and reproduction, this microplastics and testicles? Well, you know, it could, but there's so many other factors, we don't know what it is. And this is what, you know, a big part of what, you know, the Make America Healthy Again, the Maha agenda is, is that we need to start collecting the data and analyzing and having good science, which isn't being doctored, so to speak, from various groups, so we can get answers to these questions. Because You know, as the perverse incentives that we currently have with synthetic biology and AI, you know, if they start fabricating results so that their company is profitable because that's the thing they make, we're going to end up in this situation again, not SARS-CoV-T, but something probably worse. It'll be, you know, this injectable technology stuff is coming. I was thinking about it, too. It's like, why have... You know, so viruses are a physical thing. They're microscopic. Bacteria are a physical thing, but they're microscopic. You know, and I was thinking back in twenty fourteen, my God, you know, what if I had a nanobot that you could inject into a person and it then was a sentinel and went and seeked and destroyed the virus or the bacteria within the person and then dissolved? Right. Like that, that type of crazy technology is not too far out in the future now because And these are game-changing things for real problems. Like, at the phone call meeting I had this morning, I don't want to name him because he works in corporate America, and I'm going to poach him if I can. But he works in the food industry, and he brings up a good point. He's like... So there's a thing in the United States past when Obama's office, with all good intention, it had bipartisan support. It was the Food Safety Modernization Act. And it was supposed to address this issue of why do we still have three thousand people a year in the United States dying from foodborne illness? And it could be spinach contaminated with E. coli, which is common, seems to never go away, sprouts. There's a list of things. But all adds up to about three thousand people a year in the United States dying of different foodborne infections. We know exactly where they come from. We know exactly how to stop it. But yet it continues. What's the next way to fix this? Well, regulatory and policy issue, corruption between the regulatory bodies and the food industry in this one example. It's also another way that we could use advanced technology to help mitigate and minimize it. There's different ways we can tackle this thing, but you know, the synthetic biology is coming, it's coming fast. And the question is whether or not we're going to be injecting ourselves or using, you know, quasi, you know, treatments, which, which have a lot of risks to the patient or, you know, is this stuff actually going to work as intended? Yeah. Very interesting. The whole subject is so interesting. Comes down to ethics though, like you said, on whether it's used for good or evil. So yeah. Very interesting. Anything else you guys want to talk about here? We've been on for a very long time, and I really want you to come back on again, Andrew. This was great. Yeah, I'd love to. We'll see how busy I am. I mean, maybe we'll take the government jet into town when I have to come do regional inspections, and then we'll just come do it at your house or something. That would be fun. As you're talking, I was just thinking, just a thought, we don't have to talk about it, just how important censorship is to not have, because if your voice was able to get out during the pandemic and ivermectin from the Henry Ford study, if those things were able to get out, without censorship, you know, it probably would have saved a lot of lives. So it just got me thinking, you know, the way you're talking, like all this stuff is amazing, but most people don't know about it and don't ever hear about it. First, remember, I mean, it's all back on the constitution, right? We need to be pushing those American values, education, like, you know, they say, oh, everything's related. Well, what can we focus on in the community or the local level? Our families, our values, you know, religion, spirituality. I mean, you can look at different ways to organize religion. Some have some problems in my view, and they all do, right? I mean, any big organization that has money is a big component of it. Corruption even seeks into what you brought up earlier. But once again, if we focus on these things, education, and we get people focusing on the things that matter in life somehow at the local level, that's how we flip the country in the long term. We have to get people... Stop focusing on Kardashian-like trash TV entertainment. Get young men off pornography. Get women off OnlyFans. I mean, it's really weird that all the incentives in our society to have a strong society are perverse. And there's a lot of heavy influences from the WEF and foreign influences within the United States to get us to focus on these things. They're profitable. And they eat at the fabric of society. So it's all about family and your community. and um you know it's just systemic problems education wealth I mean I grew up as a poor kid and you know I used to see it um like my my poor family like other poor families in my neighborhood is that you know luckily I had a good family structure like I had a strong family structure and I think that's why I was able to escape it but that's not most people in that environment and um My values were such that I was drawn to things to improve my life and not drawn into the life of crime. And I steered away from that. But you got your kid telling you that they want to be a social media influencer or they're getting drawn into crime or drugs or these other things. you know it's already too late you know it's already too late for those kids and somehow we have to figure out the education problem and the values problem simultaneously because a smart well-educated population doesn't have these issues like out of curiosity have you guys traveled to like switzerland or like central european you know not me no yeah like there's not it was years ago There's no poverty in Austria, right? Like there's no poverty in Switzerland. And all these people are, you know, even like the dairy farmers live a good existence there. And you look back and say, well, what are the structural elements like funding these nations, like fueling these nations? Well, they're low on corruption. they don't overspend on defense, right? So then they're dumping more of the resources back into investing in their nation. And I think that's what a lot of the America First agenda is about. It's like, we need to start investing all our money in ourselves and get off the foreign wars and all this other BS, which just creates more debt and makes Americans dependent. It makes us dependent on... different financial influences and different influences outside the nation. And that's why this, that's why this election was so critical, right? I mean, this, this election, I mean, I, I don't know where you guys were thinking about fleeing to if we lost, but the thought had crossed my mind for years and I had been planning to, you know, my plan, you know, eight years ago, I was, I was going to go to Brazil. I had a, I have a Brazilian green, I have a Brazilian green card and this was in Boston. I was actually there for Bolsonaro's election. I was a huge supporter of his. And, um, you know, the commies took over, actual communists took over in Brazil and then like, well, there goes my fleeing plan. And, you know, you can't, sometimes you can't always run away from your problems. So I'm glad that we won, but, you know. I'm glad you decided to stay and help fix it. Because we need people like you. If we were, seriously, we would have lost this election. I mean, I don't know. Seriously, with all the, like spent all my political capital out of cash. I don't know what I would have done. Gotten creative. That's what we would have done. We would have just gotten creative. But, well, it's wonderful having you here. And then let's get back on again. Do you want to tell everybody how to find you, Andrew? Sure. He's not allowed to post anything, though. Yeah, I'm not posting anything. I'm on the social media blackout, but they didn't say I couldn't do interviews. So maybe I'm pushing the envelope there. I've continued to do interviews. So AG Huff on the X app. I'm not too active on any of their social medias. I have a website, andrewhuff.com, if you want to learn more about me. I've got my contact information if you want to get a hold of me up on X. and if you want to buy my book the truth about wuhan I discovered the biggest line history you can get off amazon target walmart any big retailer I think it's like fifteen bucks a copy and I'm proud to report now with uh you know all the pardons being issued for these criminals every single thing that I published in that book has now been true proven to be the absolute truth I haven't been sued by everyone I got this into all my information very tactically into the official record in state courts here in Michigan, federal court. So I've been active trying to push this stuff. And, you know, it's unfortunate that this book was all true. But, you know, I'm glad that I did it and I'm glad how it's all turning out. That's awesome. Well, boys and girls, it's that part of the show. Go to brandenburgfordgovernor.com because I'm the best non-conceiver who has ever not conceded in the history of the United States of America. And I want to have a discussion with the rightful president of the United States, President Donald J. Trump, about that in cowboy boots. And we'll see who wins it better. And so anyhow, everybody, thanks for joining us today. We'll be back on Monday. And so have a great weekend. And you know what? No matter what happens, just focus on God. It's going to be okay. You never lose as long as you're walking with God. Things just sort of happen, and it's wonderful. Make this weekend a great weekend. Just be at peace. Things are going to be okay. Starts with mental toughness, a big heart, and focus on what he wants. And you never know. Be worried about anything. And make the world a better place. Find something to do. You know, tizzying doesn't get you anywhere. Sitting here and worrying about everything, it doesn't change a thing. So you might as well go, I don't know, buy somebody flowers. Make them some cookies or something. Do something that's positive. Take your dog for a walk and let everybody pet him. You know, something like that. Something positive. So anyhow, with that said, God bless you all. God bless all those whom you love. And God bless America. And we will see you on Monday. Hang on a minute, guys. Don't hang up. And we're going to talk after we get off. That's the best part of the show for me. So be right there.