Published Jan. 12, 2026, 9:01 a.m.
9am Vicky Davis - The Technocratic Tyranny The United Nations as an organization is world communism. The strategy to impose world communism on the people of the United States (and the other countries in this hemisphere) has been economic rather than military as the people were led to believe it would be. It's our own leaders who were the Pied Pipers leading us to this demise of the U.S. I'm working on a timeline that shows the who, when and what. 10am Ralph's employment history reflects his deep connection to Michigan's working families. He has been a proud member of the International Association of Machinists, the Laborers International Union of North America, and the United Steelworkers Union. This experience gives him unique insight into the challenges facing Michigan workers and the policies needed to create good-paying jobs. Ralph holds a Bachelor of Religious Education (B.R.E.), a Master of Arts in Religion (M.A.R.), and a Master of Divinity (M.Div). His extensive education in leadership, ethics, and service has prepared him to lead with integrity and wisdom. Ralph has served as a Police and Fire Chaplainfor multiple departments, providing spiritual support to first responders and their families. He is also a credentialed Hospital Chaplain, ministering to patients and families during their most difficult moments. His service extends to being a Crisis Chaplain for the American Red Cross, responding to disasters and emergencies across Michigan. X/Twitter: https://x.com/i/broadcasts/1YqJDNeOroeKV Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/636616148890812/videos/1393325342466659 Rumble: https://rumble.com/v747y2w-bnn-brandenburg-news-network-1122026-technocratic-tyranny-and-ralph-rebandt.html https://rumble.com/v747y5i-bnn-brandenburg-news-network-1122026-technocratic-tyranny-and-ralph-rebandt.html Odysee: https://odysee.com/@BrandenburgNewsNetwork:d/bnn-2026-01-12-technocratic-tyranny-and-ralph-rebandt:7 BNN Live: https://Live.BrandenburgNewsNetwork.com Guests: Donna Brandenburg, Vicky Davis, Ralph Rebandt
Good morning and welcome to Brandenburg News Network. I am Donna Brandenburg and it's the twelfth day of January twenty twenty-six. I hope you guys are still enjoying the start to the new year and that everything is going well for everyone. Today, I've got Karen the Riveter on welcoming everybody back cuz I've been off a lot since mid-December just because I've been dealing with a few health issues going on and I really needed some rest and so I You know, we all need to do that once in a while. And this was my time. This was my moment. So at any rate, we're going to be back. So Karen's on today. And so is Vicki. So let's get the show on the road because we've got a massive amount of stuff happening out there in the world of what's right with everything President Trump does. Everything he's doing right now, in my opinion, is good and right. And if we look past the stupid headlines that are causing a lot of problems out there, we can see that we're literally in the middle of a tax restructure. We're literally in the middle of the liberation of our planet. Our troops are over in Diego Garcia as well as loading up into Qatar. And Israel has just passed the threshold of insanity with people maybe not quite doing well and or lots of black bags. Let's put it that way. So I think it's going to get real, real quick here. And one of the things that I did this morning is I posted the fact that as things get real, Humans, no matter what changes, if your favorite coffee cup is gone, you go into grief. If you lose a job, you go into grief. Certainly when people die, you go into grief. But even small changes actually throw human beings substantially most of the time. So as we go into a time of change, even extreme change, trust the plan the plans god's plan and i really think that it's going very very well and uh furthermore just for you guys before i we start the conversation is that when i adopted my daughter my very very very special needs daughter and she came out of an orphanage and she had she had all sorts of bad things that that had happened to her and that were that she came out of. She hoarded food. She would eat until she threw up. She had never really had any real shoes or clothes or toys or anything like that. I mean, it was really bad. We had parasites crawling out of her and it was not for the weak of heart. Just remember that. But they still mourn the familiar. for a little while it doesn't matter ask any adoptive parent they'll tell you that and it's a process so as we're being you know we're all adopted into God's family because we didn't deserve it and he basically made the way right he adopted all of us in all of us because it's a faith journey so as we change a little bit and go on God's path expect that things aren't always going to feel good and that's okay because we know who's in control and that's God Almighty And there you go. There's my morning spiel. So how are you guys doing? I'm doing just fine, thank you. Well, I was sick a couple weeks ago, spent a couple days in the hospital. Oh my gosh, what happened? Well, I fell down and I couldn't get back up. You know that commercial? Can I laugh about that right now? Because we're all old and there's times where you look like a turtle on your back. Yep. That's exactly it. And so, you know, I had to call nine one one and they carted me off to the hospital and spent a couple of days there. And then my son came out to help me, you know, so he's been here for like ten days. And so which I just I love, you know, it's been so good being with him. Um, but, but the whole thing has just been a freaking nightmare. Are you improving? Uh, yeah, slowly, slowly. I, uh, I'm pretty weak still, but, um, I expect to that that will change, you know, as I get up and around and moving about. So I didn't realize that I, you know, I had been losing weight and I didn't know that the, weight loss was due to diabetes so oh for real yeah so um anyway so now i'm having to rebuild my body strength oh my goodness well you know sometimes i guess things like it happened to you just like they did to me to get things checked out because do we go in nah we're fine we're fine you know yeah i i never would have uh gone in voluntarily it was just because i I fell down and couldn't get up, and so I had to call for help. A wake-up call from God. I'll say that that's what it is sometimes. Well, I'm glad you're doing okay, and I'm so sorry. Well, at my age, it's kind of like to be expected, but I didn't expect it because I really haven't ever been sick in my life. I've been very lucky that way. Well, glad to hear that you're on the mend and hopefully things will improve better than they even were before. So how about you, Karen? Well, I think it's kind of a typical thing that women tend to take care of everybody else before ourselves. And that's one of the challenges that I think come with this time of life. I've been pretty open about the perimenopause thing. And I think it's important that women are able to do that nowadays. And I've started on the roller coaster ride of what it is. And so I have some symptoms and some symptoms I don't have. Maybe in the next few years I will. But it's... There are surprises that come with it and it's frustrating. And I told my husband the other day, because for me, sleep has been one of the challenges. And I said, you know, I feel like I'm going through adolescence, but it's like adolescence times a hundred or maybe a thousand and without the spry youthful body. Yeah. Because I want to go to bed even later and get up much later than I need to. Because that's just one thing. I just don't have a shut off. And I've always been not a morning person. I am not like Donna. I cannot... Don't ask to meet me at O Dark Thirty, Donna. Can we meet later? What? It's like, you know... if I go to bed at one or three, that's kind of normal for, for right now. And I don't know, you just kind of have to go with the, with the, I don't want to say that word, go with the flow or not. Just, you know, you just take, take what life gives you and you keep moving forward. And we women have a really hard time adjusting to that sometimes because Because we're used to taking care of everyone and everything else before ourselves. And all of a sudden, we have to take care of ourselves because we can't take care of anybody else otherwise. So I think it's good to talk about it and be a little bit vulnerable sometimes because then other people can understand that better, too. I had a true spiritual experience yesterday that at some point in time I want to talk about because it does have to do with some self-care that I didn't even realize was lacking or that was a problem. And I think that to your point is that, sorry, I'm getting all my screens up. This is ADHD, Donna, trying to get up everything that, and the five screens or so that I'm running right now. So, but at any rate, yeah, we have to really pause sometimes that pause to reflect on how we're doing. And not only that, sometimes God brings things to our mind in those, at those times that that we absolutely did not even consider. We didn't even consider it. And I had a, I had a conversation with my daughter yesterday and it was one of those things that absolutely changed my perspective on life forever. One of those conversations, I'm still processing it. And I, and I think that, I think that it's a, um, It was so healing and so wonderful. And so, you know, going to issues that I didn't even know were an issue. And it was very, very positive because she was framing some things that happened to me in the past when I was a child and was able to put it into perspective. And once I saw it from outside eyes, it was like, a whole world, the whole world just lightened up. It was crazy. Just crazy. And, you know, I think that a lot of us have to deal with circumstances that were not of our choosing at all. They were not of our choosing. And I think that I think that too, I mean, when we look at things, especially like, let's just look at being born in a sinful world, I'm going to go there and watch the comments fly from the religious self-righteous right now because it's going to happen. You guys know I poke the bear all the time on this stuff because I really have a problem with a religious spirit. Huge. But having been born into this world, we were born into sin. And I'm just going to say it right now. Was it our individual fault? I don't think so. You know, there's a lot of things in our lives that we are born into. There's a lot of people that were born into satanic families. Was it their fault? It wasn't. But a lot of them don't even know, a lot of people don't even have the capacity to understand what they're in because it's been so in, you know, repeatedly reinforced in them. Just like following the political parties, their crime syndicates. And they're part of it. And we're going to be talking about this, I'm sure, a little bit more with Ralph because he's on at ten and he's been excluded from all of the GOP stuff. They're literally pushing him to the side the same way that they did to me in twenty twenty two. Only my attacks were very much more brutal because they knew that I was going to be way more of a of a of a an agent of change than anybody else that was there. But at any rate, we don't know why God's put us here or why the path we're on is there, but we do have to, we really need to trust him. And when things are brought to our attention, we need to be able to say, oh my gosh, go to God. And he'll course correct us and go, no, this is wrong. This is wrong. You've got to let go of it and make a change. You know, this is something else that women tend to be better at, though, is seeing those kinds of things. Because men are looking at what's happening right now. What do I need to do today to protect my family or provide for my family? And women are looking at the greater picture and the past and the future all matter to us, but that it's always transformative, right? I'm probably the most introspective person I know besides possibly you. You have ability to do that too. I'm constantly evaluating myself and what I'm thinking and how that affects my health is a big part of it. I had been diagnosed with PVCs some time ago, and that was because I was under stress, so my heart was reacting to it. When I removed the stress, that symptom went away. Occasionally, it'll still pop up, and that's my body's way of telling me that I'm under stress, that something is going on. And I've noticed that occasionally lately. And I'm like, okay, what am I doing? What am I thinking about? What did I just eat? Was it the caffeine? Or was it sugar? Or was it what am I thinking about that's causing me this? Or is it just my hormones are out of whack? I can always default to that. But it allows me to... correct an imbalance in my mind as well as my body by just listening to myself and women tend to be better about that but we also as your daughter has proven um have the ability to see things differently for other people and that's that's quite a blessing and a strength yeah You know, when you're born into a family of people who are dealing with their own issues, because they had to deal with and this goes to all of us, okay, we're all in the same boat. No, there's no such thing as a perfect parent. And when we look at the people around us, there are people that do absolute evil that have to be stopped. You can't let a rapist go and continue to rape innocent people and compound the problem. Or I wrote something this weekend on a dog biting. What do you do if a dog bites? And it's all about domination and they go after weaker things than them. in order to, they get pleasure out of hurting others. You can't rehabilitate that. And I'm just going to be the first to say it. It cannot be rehabilitated. It has to be stopped. And when you live with someone who is a true psychopath, I did. The fallout from that can be amazing. And you've got two ways to go when you're around somebody that's like that. You can choose to react and get bitter and pay back the world for all of the evil that you see in it. Or you can go this path and say, you know what? I know what this feels like. I experienced it. And by the grace of God, I will do whatever it takes to save other people from the pain that I endured. That was the path I took. Now, not everybody in that same situation chose that path and they became the repeat psychopath. And that's really, really unfortunate. But you know, it's like, it's like, this is, this is sometimes it's, you know, we all have all had hurts in our lives and things that they sucked. It was shit. And we didn't choose it. We didn't want to be there, but we survived it. And in that survival, we gain so much knowledge. It's unbelievable. You can't get it any other way than just living it. And so I think as we go forward, and this is the other thing that I was pondering, one of the biggest things that people are going to have problems with, I can tell you right now, going forward, it's going to be idolatry. that is absolutely going to be the biggest thing to overcome. And I think I'm going to start writing on what that looks like and how people set up altars and idols for us that keep us in bondage the rest of our lives. And so the church frames everything as, it's your fault. You did this. It's your fault. But that's not reality. Some of it just happens and you have to look at it and go, yeah, this really sucks and I won't be doing that again because this is wrong. But idolatry isn't necessarily something that's an accusation against us. And I don't know if people really understand that. People set up other altars for us and they set up idols for us. And until we can break loose of that and recognize it for what it is, you'll never move forward. And you'll never be really healthy. So right now I'm going to label it. The Republican parties and the Democrat parties are idols. It's an altar. They've been set up. It's a crime syndicate. They're criminal organizations, but by God, people won't walk away from it because it's the familiar. It's the familiar altar or God, little G God that people will not walk away from because they can't break the mind control. And that's exactly what Satan does. It's always for domination and capture. God's free. I read the other day about the veil. Like these people, there's people locally here. There's a business in Muskegon called Fatty Lumpkins. And they actually made the news because the owner put a nasty, foul-mouthed rant on Facebook. that he will not allow any ICE agents in his place because of what happened in Minneapolis. Like apples and oranges, but okay, so you won't sell sandwiches, because that's what it is, the restaurants that sell sandwiches to ICE agents. So many of the community around said, I'm going to go there every day this week and supported him. And there were only a few comments. I saw it on Facebook that were against him. And most just said, well, You know, say bye-bye to your business. Because I think the majority that disagree with him or don't like the lack of professionalism are just going to be silent. But he's probably going to feel the pinch. And he did like three times the business that day. But I have a feeling that long-term he's going to get poor results from that. But it's kind of sad to see the comments, right? And with regard to what happened in Minneapolis and even locally, how people are reacting to it. And for me, I've had to practice because I think it's the right route to go. But these people are so brainwashed. I call it veiled. Yeah, they have like a veil and this is a scriptural concept over their eyes and ears that they can't see through the narratives that they've been trained to see. what, what's actually happening to them. And so rather than get upset at those people, get really angry about this, like, what is wrong with you? You want to shake people and slap them around and say, what is wrong with you? Are you that ignorant? You know, there are still people wearing masks. And to me, it's, it's shocking that they still do this. It's become, it's fear. And, and, Yeah, it's fear over faith. Look at the protests where they're putting all this crap on the side of the road. I'm sorry. I hate to say it, but I'm not a funeral person because I think it's kind of a waste of time. OK, no, no matter. And if anybody tries to ever throw a funeral for me at some point in time, I hope, Karen, you're there to slap them. OK, because because it and I understand it's for the people that are left behind. But why do we do these things that have become ritualistic? Why not take that time and go, you know what, I'm going to go and accomplish something for the person that and I'm going to carry the torch on. Why don't we turn things into productivity? And so why has this become such the norm that people can't even question it? You know, it's ridiculous and it's macabre and it's retarded, okay? And it's brainwashed. It's like, why don't we reframe everything? And instead of taking that time to feel sorry, turn it around and go, they're with God. Why should we feel sorry for them? We should feel sorry for us. And honestly, go ahead and let's say, all right, it's planned strategy and meeting time right now. Let's pick something that would make them so proud of us going forward instead of sitting there, you know, blowing, you know, fifteen to thirty grand on a freaking funeral for another freaking industry. Why don't we go and do something, take that money and put it into your family, the future. A dead man or a dead woman is that. And to do something like that is self-indulgent into grief. I'm sorry, I'm going to question it, you know, in hell with everything right now, because it's ridiculous. And that protests with all the crap along the road, people should be ashamed of themselves. What a waste of garbage. And I would say that if it was my own kid. You know, honestly, I would. And Karen, you know me enough to know that I would do that. Get this crap out of here. You didn't know him. You didn't know anything about him. You weren't part of his life. And now you're using it for some emotional dopamine hit. It is wrong on every single level. There's not one level that this is okay. But anyhow, going back to setting up the altars. which set itself up in place of people, which is where God wanted to hang out anyway. Wasn't in a church, wasn't on an altar, wasn't in sacrifice. He wanted to be with his children and he wanted to create something beautiful for us because that's what he does. It's always good all the time. And he doesn't create junk. So when we see junk, like junk at the side of the road like that, Why didn't you take that and use it for somebody who was living? It's ridiculous. Sorry. I feel weird right now. No, I actually agree with you. I told my son, as a matter of fact, I don't want any kind of service. I don't want any kind of anything. The family that comes, I want you to all go out to dinner and just remember me. Remember, you know, tell your stories about me, good, bad or whatever. But that's what I want. I don't want any of this commercial crap. Yep. Me either. I want to, you know, it's like, take, take my sorry, dead behind to the, to the animal crematory, because that's actually the least expensive way to do it. And, you know, cause I know, cause I have horses, how you do it, you know, do the bargain basement cream cremation and, you know, scatter me someplace that means something to you that, that, that would, you know, it's not for me. I'm going to be dead. I'm going to be with God. That's not like, I can just imagine Donna's instructions for end of life. Put me in a crematorium with a horse. Save more energy. Save some money. And it would be cool anyway to be cremated with a horse if you're Donna. Or an animal of some sort. I did the ashes thing for every single one of my pets I have cremated. And so cremate me like one of my pets. That's what I really want. You know, it sounds crazy, but we wouldn't slaughter a pet to do it. Emotionally charged, brainwashed bit of nutsism that nobody can question anything. Try questioning Israel. Watch my feed go down right now and see, see what that looks like. But anyhow, I digress. Okay. So now that we've talked about how to deal with the bad and everything else, at least Donna's buddy. I don't care what the rest of you guys do, but I'm not wasting my time on that kind of nonsense. A bunch of crap. So self indulgent crap. And you know, I just don't, I don't see it's like with the political parties. What a bunch of self indulgent crap. It's an alter. You know, seriously, why don't they do anything? Because they don't do anything. They go sit at the table, look at each other, doing the pat yourself on the back club, and nothing changes. They do get rich. Yes, they do. There's a reason why God put that command as, was it the first or the second? Thou shalt not have any other gods before me. And that's important. It's like, you know, we think freedom of speech was one of the first and the most important amendments. Why did God put that there? Because if we have that there, it eliminates a lot of other problems. Okay, wisdom is according to my dad, okay? My dad's name was Vern. We called him Vernie. He thought that was hilarious, right? It was like an inside joke. My dad was like, I don't want to have a funeral. He goes, if people don't care enough to see me or talk to me before I'm dead, I sure as heck am not going to want to come to my funeral just to assuage their grief of doing the wrong thing. I mean, seriously, think about it. You know, you got to come to terms with somebody dies with the horrible crap you did during your life and the things you said about them or thought about them. So why don't you treat them like that while they're alive? There's the end of it. Because we like to go to altars, worship at altars, and do crap that's self-indulgent. People are a train wreck. So anyhow, there's the thought-provoking lesson for the day. So anyhow, sorry, I had to do it. Well, I'm glad to know you ladies, because I've never known anybody who thought about funerals the same way that I do. So do you know how rich these funeral directors are getting off of burying the dead? Oh, I sure as hell do. Yeah. What a freaking racket. But that's what you do. You brainwash people and then charge them lots of money for the crap they never needed in the first place. Mm hmm. Yeah. A fancy box. I don't I don't want. Oh, I can't even. I certainly don't want to be buried in a fancy box. They're the they're the attorneys of the dead world. Yeah. Think about this. Think about this. OK. Jesus was born on a manure pile in a stable. OK. Yeah. So I want to be like Jesus. So maybe that's where the ashes go on the manure pile. I don't know. I don't care. I won't be here. Matters nada to me. If you can press it into diamonds and make money, good job. I don't care. I just don't care. So anyhow, I digress. But let's go on to something else that might seem a little more sane to other people that are in the brainwashed community, because clearly the three of us are not there. So what are we talking about today, Vicki? Well, I've been watching Trump. He is pushing ahead on this Greenland idea. And of course, what that points to is a continental governing structure over all of the Americas. And that's a plan that has been in place since at least the early nineteen hundreds, if not before. And I'm really quite surprised that he's doing that because it actually corresponds with what the Democrats are doing with open borders. The idea is to weaken the territorial nation state and to stand up this continental governing structure. And the first state that they worked on and I didn't know anything about all of this stuff was in the year two thousand. The United States minted a coin for Iceland. It was the very first coin that they ever, the first coin that the mint ever produced for a foreign country. But it makes sense within the context of building the Americas as a continental governing structure. So they've been gradually dismantling our nation state. That's what the so-called trade agreements were. They're not trade agreements. They're governing harmonization agreements. I think that's the logical way to look at it is face value. But I'm going to throw the monkey wrench into the gears here just a little bit. When you see the scope creep. the globalists and what's going on there may be a solution on the outside of that from what i'm seeing coming out of greenland is that and president trump said it if we don't do it russia or um china will do it but i'm going to tell you there's another there's another entity out there that is that two a couple entities that are even i think he's working with russia and china okay there's too much collaboration that you can see on the outside to change and get off the global shipping and the commerce market. And what I'm seeing is it breaking apart into smaller areas of commerce that doesn't have a global oversight. Oh, that's part of it. It's essentially the same structure as a nation state and a state, like the United States and Montana. What if it's not bad though, Vicki? I mean, think about this. What if it's not a negative thing at this point in time? Because the moves I've seen in the last few days, which he didn't have to do at all, were actually a complete restructure of the tax code. And that means income tax. That means all the discretionary taxes. And now he's put a limit on, he's putting a limit on corporations and or foreign entities or other type business entities, not business entities, but like large corporate holdings of real estate. He's putting an end to that and he's putting an end to into property taxes to not the not the idiotic way Carla Wagner was doing, which wasn't about it with X my tax. I'm not saying Carla Wagner is an idiot. I'm saying the plan was an idiot plan. And that plan was really all about rewriting the trust structure. It had nothing to do with property taxes at all. But you had to read the whole thing in order to figure that out. Well, where they're going with that is to a goods and services tax. You could call it a consumption tax. And it's going to hit the poor and lower middle classes the worst. Well, and I think, too, we're going more towards the tariff system because they can't tax the way that it is with any income tax. There can be no income tax. The way that is written, the income tax or any taxes is only supposed to be on the gains a company makes. It's not on labor. It's not on your income that you make that you're trading your time for money. Basically, that's what you are when you're an employee. You're trading your time for money. And they can't tax that legally. Well, well, Well, I'm not sure about that. I mean, we do have the income tax. I am sure about it. And they have completely went off the rails on that. There should be no property tax because that means you don't even own your land if they can possibly take it. You can't tax income tax the way that it is on personal income. There should be no personal income at all because your property, they're basically, when you give up your time, you're giving up your property. And when they take part of that property, they're taking... They're taking your time or your life. And so and the original Constitution did not allow for personal income tax at all. And so they started it out through through tariffs. And the other thing they did is if they wanted to do a capital improvement project, they didn't raise your taxes. They didn't even do like a bond approval for it. They literally sold bonds. In order to fund, you could go and purchase bonds in order to fund this project if you so choose to without coercion, duress, or threat because you believed in the project and you got to do it like almost where you donate, but it was an investment too. And they don't do it that way. Now they just say, yeah, you're going to get no return on us and just sit down and be thankful for what we're doing for you that we're all making money off of the side with contracts, blah, blah, blah. Yeah. Well, the whole global, they did basically turn people into slaves. They did. Essentially. But especially after, I'm not thinking too clearly, but once they signed the World Trade Organization and they included goods and services under the World Trade Organization, what they did was basically demote people to essentially slaves, except for the high-end consulting type people that can negotiate their own contracts and deals. The average guy out there may be working as a janitor. He can't do that. He can't negotiate his own deal. Well, BlackRock will bring you there. If you fight BlackRock, so I'm told, can't confirm or deny, but that they will, if you try to fight them, they just load you up with all of their, on staff or on retainer attorneys. And a normal person under those conditions has no chance for justice. Yeah, well, even if they only have one attorney, the average person doesn't really have a chance. Because I worked on a, a friend of mine got in trouble And he was in a federal prison or a federal jail, but he couldn't meet with an attorney. They wouldn't allow him to meet with an attorney in a private place so that they could talk about the case and strategy and whatever. And this attorney they gave him was a family lawyer. You know, what he had was a gun charge. And so what I did is I researched it. I wrote a writ of habeas corpus and submitted it to the court. The court never actually got around to it. They just kind of held on to it. But long story short, the Oregon district judge did something wrong and I got him on it. We kind of were at an impasse where you move ahead, I move ahead, we both lose. Mutual destruction is a great way to leverage. It is important. That's the problem with the lack of accountability in the United States. They have no leverage. Not only do they have no desire, but we the people have no leverage over them because they stole everything you know so we have to go back and relearn things i mean we do have leverage and that is to remove all of them but yeah but i i have this i have to say though with you know no um arrogance or anything involved i bet you there aren't you know, four people out of a hundred that could have analyzed the federal code the way that I did because I was a programmer, you know, so logic is my thing. And so, and I actually had to analyze federal code and that's how I found out what they did was wrong. Where did you start? So with the project of, well, I started researching the case, you know, the different aspects of the case, and I found things that were wrong with it. And so once I did that, then I started researching how to file a writ of habeas corpus. So here, I'll post it up there for you so you can. I've got, I've got your three articles up too. If you want to go through those articles, I do have real free bank going on. Sorry. We got off the rails so much data guys, but I'm not sorry. We got to question these things. Yeah. Really? Does it feel better? It's like, you know, it's like when, I don't know, it, it, it lets the pressure off when you tell people what you really think and you're not afraid to question it, you know? Yeah. Well, I'm, you know, after my wake up call, you know, the past couple weeks, I've kind of began to let a lot of things go that I was pretty rigid about. You know, I guess there is a time to be rigid, and then there's a time to let it go. And so that's kind of where I'm at at the moment. I'm trying to organize my research so that... It will make some sense. All of these things are coming together. A lot of my research about what happened to our government can be traced back to this plan the roundtable group had for coming up with a world governing structure of four or five major regional powers basically ruling the world. And that's where you get the idea of the Americas being one of the regions. And it surprised me when Donald Trump actually started working on that, but he did, so there you go. You think you have somebody, you think you elected somebody under, one set of conditions and you find out that he actually is what I would consider to be on the other side, because I am not in favor of a regional governing structure, not at all. Yeah, I think that the less collectivism we have, the better off we are. because it's too much power in the hands. of one person underneath the current system it does. However, I guess I'm more optimistic in it and saying that this may be the only way to actually write the United States is to temporarily go in the direction of, because look at how we send money all over the world. Does it get to the people? Never gets to the people. It gets intercepted by their state and local government. And the people that are in power, they just want more. They're totally psychopath and nuts. So if we end up, if the right people are in place, which I believe that they are, because I know a couple of them very well, in fact. And so when they would never, you know, I don't think they would do it if somebody put a gun to their head. I really don't. And so this may be another way to freeing up the United States. But I don't know. But what I do know is... Yeah, no, I don't think it's freeing up the United States. Well, you could say that in a way, because the dissolution of the United States is freeing it up, right? Freeing up the territory. The decimation of the corrupt monetary system, which is a worldwide layer. is the way to restore it to local government. And I, I think that those are those pieces. And I'm not that I, I appreciate what you have to say because we absolutely agree on the core tenants of this, which is that they are, it looks like continual collect collectivism and you know, aggregation or power, a very tight power structure, but I'm not sure that's exactly what's going on. It is. I do not want to be ruled by the organization for American states, even if that organization is in Washington, D.C. You know, I don't want any of those people. You see, once we basically dissolve or decay the United States of America. There goes our Constitution. People assume that the Constitution is forever. It's not. It's just like George W. Bush said, it's just a GD piece of paper. And that's true if you don't respect what it stands for and if you don't defend what it stands for. Let me say that George W criminal or George Bush criminal CIA agent and, and guys got to deal with it. It's a, he's a Republican. So there's no heroes in either party. Thief and war criminal. Sure was. Did you watch that when they gave him a paper at George W and, and it was Jeb and Laura Bush when they got a piece of paper at, at, at, at, At the funeral? George Bush, a senior, and what happened with that, that was kind of epic. They had this absolute look of despair on their faces. Yeah. Did anybody ever find out what it said? Lots of conjuncture, you know, people are taking guesses here, there, but unless you saw it, you don't know jack crap. And so, and none of us really saw it, but the people that it was intended for, they saw it, they got it. They were extraordinarily terrified by what was on that piece of paper, which is a good thing. But I just, you can see that you can see the direction it's going, but I, you know, people will say that it says we have it all. It kind of looked like George W. ratted them all out to save his life because we all know he was involved in nine eleven. So was Chaney. Yeah, I think Chaney was. I don't know about GW. Yeah, he was. But certainly. I'm not sure Chaney arranged it, but. I don't know, but it was definitely a planned event. There's no question. No question. Okay, let's look at this. Michael's root of habeas corpus. What do you want to talk about on it? Oh, nothing. I just put it up there so you could see that I actually did that and I submitted it to the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals. I probably spent four or five months working on that damn thing. Because I was starting from scratch, you know, I didn't, I had no idea how to do anything like that. Wow, this is amazing. Very cool. I'm going to study that. So you were starting to say something, Karen, what's on your mind? Oh, it's just interesting. I've been reading off and on from different books. I have a new used bookstore near me, and it's been fun. I've been reading about the history of the Mayflower and the people that arrived early in our nation's history. And yesterday, I listened to a little bit of a program about the Revolution, and they stressed, again... that the founders were very concerned about the future for the Republic and they reiterated time after time after time the importance of education and the virtues of the people being essential to the success of the Republic. And what has happened over time is a slow removal of quality education from the people and a destruction of those virtues. Yes, I absolutely agree. Like yesterday, I saw on the news some girl was being praised for her, I don't know, prowess at music or whatever. She had pink and purple hair and she had pride colors all over her shirt. And it was just like, man, everything has to be political nonsense. The youth are being... really, really challenged these days. How their brains are being developed is not to their benefit when it comes to critical thinking. The three of us here grew up in various circumstances, but we all have that critical thinking ability. And I think that's one of the things that we have such a challenge in looking at how other people are reacting to the world around them. They don't have that. They are so lacking of that. That's not their fault. And it's easy for us to be angry at them and say, you're stupid. And therefore, in a sense, we're judging them. That's not really our place. Instead, we should have an attitude of recognizing, acknowledging their lack of ability to comprehend and have some sort of sympathy for that and then care about how can we How can we assist them in moving forward in a proper way in faith without fear as they continue to interact with the world? Because we still have to live with these people. Unless there are some kind of terrible survival conditions that affect us all, the critical thinkers are more likely to survive it because... We have the ability to think our way through. And the people who have faith are more likely to survive because they're willing to think through the situation and without the panic. If that should happen, we're going to lose a lot of these people that are innocently destroyed, in a sense. Well, they changed the whole paradigm of education. They went to something called social emotional learning so so you're right they threw out critical thinking skills they threw out academic education and went to work based skills so a kindergartner is being taught with a curriculum that's integrated with work-based skills. And how anybody could do that to a child, I just, I don't understand it. I do because there's no parenting skills out there, very poor ones. Parents are playing to wanting the approval of their little social groups and the schools and everything else instead of doing what's right for the kids. And, you know, what I hear, too, is, you know, it's like it's like there's so many societal problems that need to be turned around. But I digress. Go ahead. Well, they've been working on destroying the schools since at least the nineteen seventies. They did it. It's already been done. And it's been incremental. But at some point, somebody has to say, hey, you know, like WTF are we doing with these children? You see them coming out of the schools. And of course, the ones that are bright, they will do well no matter what. But the ones that are not, the ones that are average and below, They're the ones that are really hurting. Our society, I don't believe that we have a good society. I don't believe that the people that run the institutions in our country, I do not believe that they are good people with the best of intentions. We were talking about we're being ruled by a bunch of psychopaths. Yes. That is the entirety of the issue right there, is that I really, in politics, having run for governor, and the only non-conceding governor candidate who is actually on the ballot is Donna Brandenburg, okay, across the United States, because I'm still not conceding. And I was on the ballot, which is crazy. And all the people that I met, I have met very few people that does not fit a psychopathic profile. They just don't because those are the people. That's what they want. They want power and money. They don't want to do it because they're serving God for the right thing. It's always for the glory. And watch how they step on other people instead of stepping up to help other people. Huge dividing line right there. It's crazy. And yeah, I haven't I haven't lost hope in this. And I want to say that, too, because I was in that generation that grew up in schools, not necessarily the seventies, but in the eighties and nineties. And I had some really good teachers. And I had a second grade teacher that I still remember. I remember her name and I remember what happened because she was correcting me for making a mistake, but she made the same kind of mistake. And I found out what was true. And when I brought that back to her, she praised me for it. I was praised by my teacher for correcting my teacher. And that stayed with me for the rest of my life. Teachers are great, but they're not infallible. And that was a, I had no idea at the time, but that was a really big lesson for me as a child. But there were a lot of other kids that grew up with good teachers just like I did. And now they're parents. Some of them are grandparents now. And they see what we see. And they don't like it. And they're working to get around it. And we can see that how many people are not vaccinating kids anymore. How many people are working on homeschooling. How many people have started raising chickens in the backyard. Things are changing. And a lot of times it's quiet. Because they don't want to bring a spotlight on themselves when their whole community tends to be the opposite. But they're there. And I take hope in that because I see it from time to time. And I know that we are not alone in trying to correct the problems in our society and reestablish the education and the virtues that are responsible for the republic form of government that we have. or that we should have. On paper, we have it. We just have to restore the work of that paper. But it's a challenge to educate people on what that's supposed to look like when they've never actually seen it. They think they have seen it. They think they have freedom. But that's why I keep coming back to the value in the movie like the Matrix. Sometimes we've had to have fictional, symbolic ways of showing people the truth. And I think the Matrix is a great way to do that. So anybody who hasn't seen it, watch the movie because you'll get it. There are people who would rather be in the fake system Then out of it where it's a little less comfortable, like Donna said, less familiar, but true. I want to be where truth is, even if that means I've got to do something to fight for it. And it might be scary and it might be uncomfortable. Yeah. And you know what? You know what? That's exactly just to clarify there. You know, Jesus even said it, you know, that there's a mix here. One will be taken. One will be left. Right. And every single thing that we're looking at has been infiltrated with by by this satanic death cult in essence. That is set to exterminate people. I'm going to go back to beating up on the freaking criminal parties right now because the parties, both of them, are involved in it. Now, am I saying everybody in there is guilty of this? No, I'm not. But the system itself is a sacrificial system. If you analyze it down to the base level, the entirety of political parties is a sacrificial system. And it would be great to hide our heads in the sand, but we can't fix it unless we look at the whole picture and not just pick and choose, right? And because the system allowed them, the psychopaths, to come in, it basically encouraged and allowed them to build their little cartels within the system that we have. No two ways about it. And so we're going to have to look at extreme measures of accountability going forward. It's the only way that it'll work. And unfortunately, very few people have the brain bandwidth to understand what that looks like or how to deal with extreme accountability. And, you know, the best person suited for the job is a person like President Trump, who's a CEO. You get in a position like, just for the record, a CEO such as myself looks at the world very, very differently. We don't need to have anybody acknowledge our presence. We don't care about their destructive, wicked mouths that tear other people down. I could care less. I just let them sit there and be stupid. But a person who is actually of that mindset will look at this to solve the problem, not just to sit there and move, do it again and again. Thus my posts about what do you do with the dog that bites? That's an easy question right there. If a dog bites, it goes after children. And this is insane to me. Why people can't look at this, like the protests and this, that, and the other thing, and the fact that there are children that are being basically trafficked and hurt, and it's not just in one area. You're going to find out in every small town you've got somebody who is into really bad stuff with kids. Look at the daycare centers. Proves my point right there. I could make a legal argument in a case about this that could not be refuted in less than ten minutes. I could have that done. So, you know, we really have to shake it up the churches. The churches are most of them are government churches because they're five of one freaking C three cowards that shut down during COVID. They should have come freaking unglued over this. And it's going to happen again. I saw a couple of pieces of paper from two or a couple of notifications from two people that worked within the post office this week. And they are absolutely, the notices were the same ones that they received pre-COVID. So my guess is that they're getting ready to shut us down or they're already in the process. I think the Insurrection Act, honestly, has already been invoked and is operational. And that the people just haven't caught up to it because they're looking at all these ridiculous, low IQ distractions out there instead of, you know, why are we all of a sudden picking and choosing what fake stream media says? Fake stream media is fake. OK, they're going to be fake media. They're not going to change. OK, you know, well, they are. They are butlers or they're stripes. Yeah, they are not paid for. Yeah, you think he's going to change his M.O.? Heck no. You know, he ain't going to change. You know, he's fit for the ultimate destruction. And it's the way it is. But some of these people aren't going to change. But anyhow, well, I see Ralph backstage. So I think I'm going to get ready to pull him on a little bit. And we'll talk further. But did you want to show something else there, Vicki, before we move on? No, I was just going to tell you, I'm getting ready to bail out. I've got to go do stuff. So yeah. Yeah. Um, I'm glad that we reconnected here because of my little, my little year or not a year, my little almost month off here. And, uh, Yesterday was the first day that I actually felt better, which is kind of a huge thing right now. So I'm ready to be at full strength. I think again, pretty, pretty quick here. And I know I'm friends with, with Patrick Burns and, and a lot of other people. And Patrick wants to come back on the show again, too, because he's very involved in the election theft, which is our number one issue, is the theft of the election and the rigging through the system from top to bottom, including the political party idols that people have set up. Absolutely, yes. I totally agree. Our elections, they have to be redone somehow. Back to paper and pen. And we have to absolutely... We absolutely have got to write the twenty twenty two elections and the twenty the twenty one and twenty two elections because we have all the proof. it was entirely rigged and oh by the way the republican party just got tied into something that's an election issue and you're going to find out that right now as our investigations keep keep moving farther out from the uh their where they want us to put our attention you know like they've been wanting us to put our attention whitmer nestle and benson are they are they uh involved in law breaking absolutely absolutely but this goes down to the local level And when President Trump said we have it all, he meant we have it all. That means I think we're going to see people in our communities that are going to be removed, arrested, and potentially tried for treason. And you know what? If somebody misses that standard of honor and excellence and committed treason, I would absolutely volunteer to pull the freaking lever for short stop, sudden drop. They knew what they were doing. You and me both. You want a kindergarten teacher, go ahead and vote in a kindergarten teacher. That ain't what we need right now. Just like when we needed President Trump when he's there, we need somebody who is going to get in there and say, ah, hell no, not as long as I'm alive. We're not going to watch one more kid, one more person get hurt, nothing. You make good choices and you've got a chance. You make bad choices, F-A-F-O. I think what I'm going to do is go ahead for a real quick break to fifty seven second break right now. And then I'm going to bring Ralph on after that point. Karen, it's up to you whether you want to be back on or not. If you want to bow out and go on to your day, I understand that you can just just leave the broadcast and we're done. And otherwise, if you want to stay and talk for a little bit, go ahead. But I'll be right back after exactly fifty seven seconds. Thank you. Good morning and welcome to the second hour of Brandenburg News Network. I am Donna Brandenburg and it's the twelfth day of January twenty twenty six. So getting used to saying that twenty twenty six thing again and welcome to our show. I want to bring Ralph on right now because we got a lot to talk about. And as you guys all know, my biggest issue besides the fact that I serve God is. is the fact that we got to serve God by handling business. And the biggest issue, in my opinion, is the elections, because everything is rolling downhill from that. It's ripping the guts out of the corporatocracy that's out there and ensuring that if somebody's doing business, that they don't leverage themselves into a position of power where there is no redress of grievance and the child trafficking nonsense that's going on. So we're going to hit all those points. Morning, Ralph. How are you doing? Doing great. I'm glad to hear you're doing better too. Glad you had a good day yesterday. Yeah, I had a profound spiritual event yesterday that I was talking about a little bit earlier that I really am kind of excited about. It's really amazing. You know, there's the books that C.S. Lewis wrote with the one that I think it's The Voyage of the Dawn Treader. I homeschooled my kids. You don't know me at all. I mean, we've met in passing, but it's not like Ralph and I know each other really well. But I homeschooled my kids and I was doing it when nobody was, where we were being threatened to be put into jail for homeschooling our kids. I'm like, give it your best shot. I'm not going to stop, right? And so, but there's a book and I think it's in, it's either in Voyage of the Dawn Treader or no, that's not what it is. It's when Eustace turns into a dragon. And God, he's sitting, he takes some of the treasure. He was told not to take the gold. He did it anyway. And he woke up asleep on this pile of gold. And he had literally turned into a dragon. Now, there's a real profound lesson for everybody. If you take that thirty pieces of silver, if you take the bribes and the coercion, I mean, I was offered billions of dollars and then that went into anything I wanted. Anything I wanted, I could have. And I was like, yeah, I'm kind of the bar's low for me. I shovel horse crap. OK, and so like it doesn't take a lot to make me happy. And so except for honesty and integrity. But I think I think that when God pulls off those those scales like he did, he tore the dragon costume off of Eustace and he did it one painful scale at a time until all of a sudden he was. pink, new, you know, new exterior, everything. And he took a bath, you know, he went, he swam in the water to heal the wounds of, of, of what God ripped away from him. That was really bad. And, you know, I just, I just think it's, it's a really great example of almost a baptism or going into the water to the point of being healed. And I think we all need to go through that at times. And it's not fun. It's not a riot to go through and readdress things. But we have to and we're going to have to do this as a nation because we literally have had so much betrayal and cheating on all of us. It's just incredible. And at any rate, I'm really glad you're here. So what are we going to talk about today except for criminality? And you saw what I think about this whole thing is that pick it. Let's see. Let me go back to here because I took it off screen. I run like five screens at any one time, minimally. And so there you go. There's elections. Be like Mollick or Bale for the next four years. Who are you going to choose, guys? Because you choose the establishment. You got what you got. We definitely have to make sure, as Vicki or Karen said, and by the way, that segment was very good as well. Those women understand what's going on. But we definitely have to make our primary elections fair. We have to make them as well free. We have to make sure that we make primary elections great again, because as you know, what I've been going through, what you went through, And believe me, my phone has been blowing up. People have been contacting me through every form possible, letting me know of the same thing happening to them, whether it was in a statewide election or whether it was a local election or even serving in a congressional district or a county party. They've let me know that, Ralph, you're not alone in this. We appreciate your voice out there because somebody has to say something about it. I had the same thing in twenty-two is that people saw what was going on. They saw how they were using campaign finance. In fact, one guy that did campaign finance was telling me how they were rigging it inside of campaign finance so that you get into a loop that you can almost never get out of. This thing is rigged from the political parties, the townships, the entire system is just a putrid mess of money laundering. And when you look at the amounts of money that go through things, it's just crazy. And just talking with you and Carol for a while, I know you're right in the middle of it. As far as being a victim of some psychopath individuals, the first order of business is to make sure that no Christian ever gets an office. So let's look at that. Remember, that's who you're dealing with. The public enemy right there, number one, is going to be a Christian that has the guts to run for office. OK, they ain't going to want you in. They ain't going to want me in. They're not going to want anybody in because we will literally get in there and destroy their power structure. It's interesting. I'm sorry. It's interesting that you bring that up, that they don't want any Christian in office. But the reality is if you go back to when our country was founded, I don't know if I mentioned this on our last podcast with you, but I've told this to so many people because people are saying we can't have Christians in office. Take your religion elsewhere. This is a separation of church and state issue. They totally have been lied to for the last sixty, seventy years on that First Amendment. But here's what's interesting. In this colonies in the first, when our country was founded, the colonies stated that there were nine out of thirteen and nine out of thirteen said in order to be a politician, you had to believe that the Bible was the word of God, that Jesus Christ is the savior of the world. that not only will you profess allegiance to the Constitution of the United States, Constitution of your state, or the whole, I'm sorry, I'm messing this up, Donna, but the bottom line This is what we do here on Brandenburg News Network, guys. And everybody knows it is that we're here for authenticity. We're not here to can't message to disable everybody. So you just say it your best self. I'll just I'll just I'll just send people in one place. The Delaware Constitution, seventeen seventy six. That's just one representation. And if someone goes and Googles that, reads it, you'll see that what I'm saying is true. And so just as our founders knew, because of the corruptness of the human heart, if you didn't have Christians in those spots, we would have what we have today. Well, we've been sold the lie that politics and Christianity don't mix, which is not true, which is not the vision of our founders. But it also demonstrates that when people understand, as you just said, that Christianity is... a matter of being right before God and standing before him. That's why there's truth. That's why there's integrity. That's why there's honesty. That's what makes a political system work. But people don't want that anymore because it's so embedded in there at every level that they just don't want to hear our voice. Well, I don't know if you listened to the point where I was talking about the fact that the idols, we're right in the middle of an idol worship situation, and that can lend itself to the political parties where people are voting emotionally or tied to a system or a thing instead of realizing that it has usurped the position of God. People can justify it all they want, but I can see it from the outside clearly that if you're not making decisions that are based on what's right and you're going right to an emotional reaction to what always has been, you've been captured by an idol. And it doesn't need to be a golden calf on an altar, though we're doing that now too with gold and silver. That's another idol that people are falling prey to instead of honestly serving God and making that the only MO no matter what with no transactions. So, yeah, and I think that when you look at the base level of doing the right thing, you can only sustain that if you're following God, because the world is so tough. Eventually, you're going to crack unless God holds you up and strengthens you, not you personally, but anybody. But I think, you know, the Bible also says that the governments will be on his shoulders. It doesn't mean we're above him. It means he's carrying it. It's his plant. It's not ours. And I think that that's important to not overlook. You know, I'm not saying to you, I know you know it, but a lot of people out there don't really, they don't know that. And because the Bible has been demonized, Christianity has been demonized because they want to get rid of it because the standard will stand the test of time. Yeah, and I've said this through my whole life. I'm willing to debate anybody on the inspiration and authority of the scriptures. They prove themselves and history proves, archaeology proves everything that the Bible has said is true. In fact, there are times when liberals would say, oh, there's no city of Jericho or there's You know, this didn't happen or that didn't exist. And then, you know, ten years later, we uncover Jericho. We uncover these aqueducts that David had or Solomon had. You know, there are just so many things that when people say it didn't happen, it's not true. It comes true. I mean, it's discovered. And so that people should really begin to look at those kind of things, because the Bible is more than just a book. with an ISBN number like everything else in the library, it is totally different. And I can prove that. I've done that with several atheists in my lifetime, and it's life changing. And that's why when we look at the impact that the scriptures had on our founders, You know, they said that the chief textbook in the school should be the scriptures. That's where you learn your morality. If you go back to the, the primer, the new England primer, you know, a is for Adam and you just go through all those and it's, it's biblical truth that children were learning and it's, they learned that because it was real. I mean, that's why our founders understood the laws of nature and nature's God. They didn't say the laws of nature and end there. You know, they had nature's God. So what's happened in our society is that we've removed God from everything in the sixties. So now it's just the laws of nature in our generation. In the last ten years, they've removed the laws of nature. I mean, if you nothing, there's no such thing as objective truth anymore, according to the liberals. And so as we understand how society has gone downhill, the reality is when you take out the laws of nature and nature's God, you end up in where we are today. I'm looking at right now, the New England primer right now. Usually when people bring up, when they bring up books or anything like that, I will absolutely look them up and I usually buy them. It's good stuff. Yeah. So, all right. That baby is now mine. I don't know if I should ask you this, but did you watch Seabiscuit? I did not. I didn't have time to do that this morning. I'm going to keep bugging you until you do. All right, all right, all right. I'll get it watched. So I'm going to watch it today or tomorrow. It's inspirational. It really is. You can absolutely quiz me on that. That's fantastic. So yeah, so it's interesting. Well, let's go back because something else came up when we got offline last week. Are you able to talk about that or not? If we could hold off on that for a few days, I need to throw that by the team. But I mean, there's so many things related to that and to everything that's going on right now in the Republican Party. You know, it's not just, you know, it's not the whole party. There are many, many good people out there. In fact, Donna, interestingly enough, in this whole District Eight issue, I've had other congressional district chairs call me to say, Ralph, what's going on? And I explain it to them. And they're like, yeah, that's not right, that is not right. They should give everybody the opportunity. And it's not just district leaders, it's county leaders, it's people all over. And so there are people that have seen this, as I mentioned at the beginning, there are people who have been silenced. And whether it's, you get a new committee chair and she says, she doesn't want you on her committee, she figures out a way to get you off. And that's happened all over the state. So I don't want to throw the Republican Party under the bus because there are a lot of good people there. I do know, as you know, this whole craziness that's going on has really caused a lot of grassroots people to just walk away from the party. But I'll tell you what's really encouraging to me. These folks have called me and they have said. Ralph, we're getting back in this fight because we think you're the guy that can win this. And the reality is, Donna, I'm representing ninety nine percent of the people in Michigan and the Republican Party. There's only one percent of the voters that that are trying to control this election. And, you know, it won't be hard to overwhelm that one percent with truth and it won't be hard to win the election, the primary election, even as we move forward. Well, that's good. Anytime people get involved in something, sorry, I do, like you said, five screens and I'm also answering comments and that sort of thing. Anytime that people get involved, it's a good thing. And every one of us has a different leading role. to what we're able to do, as well as what God puts on our heart and the talents and gifts that he gives us. So no matter what you're doing, if you're involved, you know, hats off to you and salute. That's fantastic. So it's so important to, in the smallest things, some, you know, putting, I don't know, putting things in the mail, right? writing people. And I was, I was really thinking of strategies to continue to help getting people more involved so that, you know, we can truly have a free state nation. It doesn't, it doesn't come without being able to babysit a little bit. You got to maintain it, I guess. So what else would you like to talk about today? I mean, we've got, you know, plenty of time and I really want to let people hear what you have to say. Well, the, This small percentage ruling the state and should I say ruining the state as well has to end. You know, you have that with the National Education Association. You've got those people who are really outrageously screaming that we're coming after your kids. And if you stand against our policies, we're going to stand against you. You won't be reelected. So, you know, we're going to be fighting against a lot of people, a lot of people, not only there in terms of the NEA, but there's, you know, the economics, one percent of the, you know, wealthy people here in Michigan controlling everybody else. You know, Donna, as I've talked with Democrats and independents over the last six months, you know, they see that as well and they're not interested in having that happen again. I am convinced that just as Trump had a huge swell of voters from the Democratic Party and Independents, I'm convinced that I'm going to get the same thing this time around in the primary and even in the general. Yeah, I think it's going to be interesting going forward. So I'm hoping that there's been some process improvements that have been made that will ensure everyone that their vote counts. I mean, I don't really care who wins, you know, when it comes to the election. It is the fact that as long as it's the people's true voice, we have to respect that. And if you really care and want to get somebody in, I'll say that to everyone out there, you have to back the candidate that you've researched, you know who they are, you know what they stand for. Honestly, one of the best ways of doing this is to bring you into interviews and other people in interviews so that it, they can be seen. Cause you, you know, if you know me at all, you'll know that I will literally call it for what it is. I'll just call it out as, as BS if I hear it, because I've got a zero tolerance for that. And so, I mean, I think that that's really important is to listen to people authentically, let them authentically without a script talk. Did you ever notice this when you were, when you were actively running before? Like we ran at the same time. And so how many people would can a speech and it was the same speech, exactly the same. There was no authenticity. I saw John James is the most plastic person I've ever seen in my life. He gets up on the stage and he is actually an actor on the stage is what it looks like to me. You know, can performance as soon as he's done, he's out of there. Okay. And so the better way to do it is just, authentic and just be yourself. You know, not you, but any of the candidates. Be yourself. Because, you know, I don't think it's a good idea to vote for plastic political action figures. That's what they are. No, no, no. You're absolutely right. And it's difficult when you go to event after event and everybody's memorized their five-minute speech. And, you know, Don, at this point in my life, I'm more interested in listening to people I want to hear what their thoughts are, what their concerns are. And so I have a question and answer at every event I go to. I speak for just maybe five or seven minutes, show our introduction video or campaign video. We have another fun video that some Gen Zers made that talks about Ralph's polls. And then we, I don't know if you noticed, but we had a thirty second commercial on TV during the U of M game on the thirty first and the Central Michigan game a few days earlier. So we are out there. We're getting out there. But I want people to talk to me, to hear my heart, to hear what I have to offer, because that's who I would be serving. I'm not serving myself. I'm not running for myself. I'm not running for any other reason than to serve. And it's first of all, serve the Lord and secondly, serve people. And that message is resonating everywhere I go. That's cool. Well, I just got an idea. So so we have three printers and such. And so this one was one that my son modeled up of Karen. Karen, the riveter that was on before you. Okay. I think I'm going to make some plastic political action figures and then come on and absolutely roast everybody for how they failed the test. That's funny. That's funny. Well, the reality on these people, they're idiots. It's like, you know, just even going into destruction of evidence on, on things that happened in the past. It is real guys. It is. There's no question. Did we talk much about policies last time I was on your show? Did I talk to you about some of the things that I would like to implement? Some of it, but just go ahead and reiterate if you want. Some people may not have heard this, but I'll keep it short. I mentioned that in the typical system, with the Department of Corrections, someone say their incarceration is eight or nine years and they getting toward the end, they end up getting out and they're back in within six months. It's just a revolving door. Everybody knows that. Donna, when you have Christian programs where the heart is changed, not just external actions to be able to get out of jail early or prison early, but you have an actual heart change, eighty percent of those folks never come back, never come back. And so one of the goals that I have is just as Whitmer has done just the opposite. She has not worked with faith based organizations. I will be implementing faith-based organizations because I believe that the church has the answers. I believe that when it comes to feeding the poor, when it comes to caring for the needy, when it comes to medical, you look historically, St. John's, Trinity Hospitals, you know, you have the church, you know, we're running those and they were caring for people and it wasn't a big business conglomerate. It was the church that was actually caring for people. My goal as governor is to take some of those things that are in failing government programs and hand them off to faith-based organizations. Of course, we're gonna have accountability, we're gonna have inspections, all that kind of thing, but there's a better way. And if we just look historically, we can see that better way. But as I said, people don't want that because politicians don't want that because when they agreed to a program, Money is going to that program. That program is now going to support their run for the next election. And it's just not right. We have to stop that vicious cycle and I'm here to do that. What other things did you want to talk about? I had one question for you from Lab. Hey, Lab. Nice to see you here today. I would like to know what Ralph's stand is on all the data centers that are being pushed here in Michigan. And I'm going to hit the Republican parties. Holy grail here. The DeVos is over by Lowell. It's unusual to me that there's such a proximity to Lowell and Ada. It's a concern. And why? What's your stand on the data centers? Well, my stand on the data centers is exactly the same on solar and windmills. Prove it to me. They haven't. And in fact, it's been just the opposite. Solars and windmills have come into communities. They've divided those communities, and I'll come back to data centers in a minute. They've divided the communities. They've told the communities that we're going to give you a percentage into your treasury, your coffers at the township or city level. that doesn't happen five years later the city sues them and they just get pennies on the dollar that were promised so we follow the money that that's number one and i have not seen anything on data centers where people have they've actually developed a They've actually given the money to those groups that they had promised. But that's not the big deal. The big deal isn't the money. The big deal is the problem with what it does to the environment. The problem is what it does to the water level tables. The problem is what it does to COPD. People in the areas are having a hard time breathing. There's fog. There's all kinds of reasons why we should not allow those into our state. So the bottom line is I am not in favor of data centers. Yeah, that's good, because I think I agree with you on that one. That's my opinion, because the bigger issue I see is that they're that they're honestly they're avoiding following the will of the people. They are literally not listening to it. And I think that if we get that one issue resolved, we'll probably the rest of it will fall in tow here. What's your idea? Do you have any other ideas that you want to talk about? There's your question. Yeah, just on. I'm sorry, just on the data center, let me just add this as well. Greg Alexander has a House Bill, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, which would return the authority to the local level. I'm all about that. I want the local people to be able to make the decisions. When you buy a house somewhere, you don't want a junkyard right next door to you. You don't want somebody coming in and putting a data center next to you. You buy a location because you like the area. And so people need that authority. Local townships need that authority. And I do understand that there's some data centers going on where people are getting kickbacks and things like that. The Township council, leadership people, they're getting money from these data center pushers. Follow the money. Yeah. And I can tell you right now, Byron township is about where I live is about as corrupt as you can get. And so there's gotta also be accountability that is forced on, on the people at a local level. I did talk to an FBI guy a while back and he said, he said to, when I was doing some investigation, he said about as good as I've ever heard of the state is under a township takeover of the state. And so they're doing, they're doing the takeover through the townships. And so that's another thing that really needs to be addressed and looked at by everybody out there because it is not Ralph's responsibility to fix that. It is not my responsibility. It is the people in the area, and it's an unrelenting fight. But you've got to be committed to that in taking care of business. Well, I've seen situations and I'm thinking of one right now where the township tried to put a cider mill out of business run by a Christian. They had all kinds of the leadership, I should say, the township leadership tried to put them out of business. The community, the villages around it loved the cider mill. It was growing and more people were coming in from the outside. It was just a blast, a great place to have family and friends. Well, the township supervisors ended up getting the state to come in. The state ended up writing tickets for things that really weren't tickets. And it just snowballed. And so the man who owns the cider mill said, look, I'm just going to run for township supervisor. He ran for township supervisor. The whole community loved what he was doing. And so he was elected supervisor. He fired everybody and put in people that would support the local opinions of the residents in the area. So it was really cool. And I just look at that and I smile every time I think of it because the whole point is the community getting involved. And this one man standing up, the community getting involved. When that happens, things change. Yeah, it comes down to, as you as you said, the local people. And I think General Flynn says it really well as local action equals national impact, which is is dead on. So anything else? What other things are you thinking? What's on your mind? Are you excited to rebuild things? And I bet it's exciting, isn't it? It really is because there's so much that can be done. And when it's just business as usual, as I said, when we send the people who've already been in Lansing, we send them back there because they have the experience. Well, that's a red flag to me because they haven't fixed anything. The budget has grown exponentially, will be bankrupt in five years as a state if that keeps going. As the federal funds start dropping because they're cutting programs, it's going to affect Michigan. So we can't keep... kicking our budget up higher and higher every year. You know, I've looked at the budget and I've looked at the corruption. So let's let's look at both of those, if I may, for just a minute in the budget. The the biggest department that sucks most of the taxpayer money is the Department of House and Human Services. That is a complete train wreck. There have been one hundred and fifty kids that have died in twenty twenty five under their care. that they've never been investigated. How did that happen? Why did that happen? They just throw drugs at kids, hoping that that'll fix whatever the mental illness is. We have to stop doing that. We have to care for them. We have to really help them through these difficult times. You can't just let people die for whatever reason and never investigate it. By law, they're supposed to investigate it. So this is the largest section in the budget. There are areas there that are not working. There are areas that are broken. There are areas that have been going forever and not even working. We could take those areas out, reduce that part of the budget immensely. You know, the interesting thing is, Donna, if you look at the EGLE, it's called Environment Great Lakes Energy, they gave fifty million dollars fifty million dollars to a green energy program in Kentucky that's our tax money that we give to our state that's supposed to be used for our state but they just wrote a check I have a question are you willing to abolish EGLE I yeah and here's how I would do it EGLE agriculture in DNR, all they are are compliance officers, mostly. That's what they do. They go out, if you're in violation, they write a check to you, or they write a ticket to you and they say, fix it. Well, if you don't have the money to fix it, we'll see you in court. That's the typical response. The reason why they will see you in court is because the attorney general has all this money in her pot that no one even knows what she's spending it on. And so you have an individual with a farm or a business who can't go up against the state. That's just unconscionable. What I would be doing is bringing back conservation districts. Conservation districts are already in existence. They were established in the nineteen thirties by the US Congress. Michigan approved those in the fifties. The conservation district is made up of five people who are elected in your county. Those five people you probably know, you probably voted for them. They care about you. They're your neighbors. We would take conservation districts, which there are out of the eighty three counties in Michigan, I think there's eighty one conservation districts. If we offload all of the work from Eagle to Eagle DNR, in agriculture or at least half of it. We can cut the budget significantly. But here's the positive thing about it. People that show up from Lansing, all they want to do is write tickets. You fix it or we'll see you in court. It's revenue raising. That's all it is, is revenue raising. Yeah, exactly. To pay for their own salary. Yes. So the people who are on the conservation districts, they you can ask anybody out there who knows the conservation districts and how they worked with the communities. They will tell you that they don't write tickets. They want to help you get past this and they'll give you advice. And because they're your friends, you might be having coffee with them at the local diner talking about your issue rather than a legal issue. You know, Lansing versus local, so conservation districts again, like, I mentioned with the, uh, once, uh, with Greg Alexander. Bringing it back to the local level, whether it's we need to get everything out of Lansing. But bringing it back to the local levels where it's going to happen, whether it's at the county level or the district, you know, or the. county or the townships or cities. That's where the decisions need to be made because that's where people are accountable to their voters. We don't need any more people who are part of the unelected bureaucrats in Lansing. In fact, part of my budget direction is that in the first six to eight months, we are going to have two thousand non-elected bureaucrats retire through buyouts, or through whatever attrition it's going to happen because the money's there. We just need to do it. Interesting. So my grandfather worked for the Civilian Conservation Corps. Wow. Yeah. So he actually was part of that when coming out of the Great Depression. And so very, very interesting dynamic. It works. It would work. And that's why, you know, I'm not just giving talking points as a governor candidate. If you look at the other candidates, they're going to give you the political jargon. I'm actually going in investigating how can we make things different. Another idea, listen to this. When we look at people who are owning business in Michigan, the common comment is we can't find anybody to hire. It costs fifty five thousand dollars a year for a prisoner in jail. Their record in jail or in prison is already being tracked. We know if they have a good record, we know when they're getting out, we know what they've been doing. What if and I have passed this by business owners, what if we took an individual or many individuals who were like within two years of being released from prison and they've got an impeccable record. I'm not talking about, you know, prisoners who are murderers and rapists and all this stuff that's really bad, but people who maybe shouldn't have been there, or maybe they've been there and they've learned their lesson and they're ready to come out. What if a company, was offered from the government, we will give you twenty thousand dollars toward whatever you would pay this individual so that they can work for you. You have to give us reports. You have to let us know how things are going. They have a boot on their legs so they can't just run away. But what if we helped pay their salary? Now, we've already cut it down from fifty five thousand dollars a year to twenty. That's what that's what we'd be paying out. So we're saving thirty five thousand dollars a year on each person that we go into this program. Don, I'm convinced it'll work. And I've got companies that said, we would do that in a Harvey. We can't find anybody to work. We need help. And I'm telling you, ironically, we've, we have actually hired people like that in another state, our company. Yeah. I've actually done that in one of our companies. is where we've hired people from the prison system. And it comes with some unique challenges. And so anytime you want to talk about that, I'll tell you what they are so that you can have somebody who can talk to that and probably be a little bit of help to you in your quest. That would be great. And I have a law enforcement panel. As you know, I'm the chaplain for the Michigan Chiefs of Police, and I've been unanimously endorsed by the Southeastern Chiefs of Police. And I have a panel of those fellows who are talking with me on some of these things on prison reform and some of the things because police officers have been the victims lately. No respect. Whitmer and the Democrats in Lansing have passed laws that a police officer's record can't be expunged. So if he has an issue with a superior, a road officer has a problem with a lieutenant, that can never be erased. If they fall asleep on a job, I mean, nothing can be erased. But now people who have really committed crimes against society, their record can be expunged. Anyway, it's just backward. But my point is they are offering advice and help on all of this. And I'm excited about it. That's awesome. That's awesome. That would be a great subject to get into at a later date. But I like hearing good ideas and new ideas on every good idea or every idea that approaches this mess that we have is worth considering and listening to everybody out there. And that's getting rid of your biases and listening to new ways of having things done because it's broken right now. So that's OK. What else? We're going to go. Well, in terms of corruption, I mentioned what's going on with the Michigan Health and Human Services, one hundred and fifty kids. I'm sure you're aware of this, that the Michigan Economic Development Corporation approved twenty million dollars for a company that didn't even start, wasn't even in existence. But they approved this money on X date. Later, a few weeks later, there's a company called Global Link run by Fay Bodine, it now registers in Michigan as a company. So they approve ahead of time before a company ever comes into existence to give this group, twenty million dollars. How does that happen? Well, it happens because Fay Bodine happens to be a contributor to Gretchen Whitmer's political endeavors. So this is the type of corruption that we have to end. And we have to end ignorant corruption. I'll give you an example over in the Thumb. The Eagle came in and said, hey, look, guys, we need to we need to give you all city water. You know, they were concerned about the Flint water crisis and I mean, legitimate concerns. I get that. But they put water in. All over this one little township. And when people flush their toilets, their septic tanks begin to not work because there's chlorine in the water. And chlorine doesn't work in septic tanks. It doesn't dissolve stuff. It keeps things going. And when that became evident, Eagle comes back and says, hey, we need to put in city sewer. Oh, surprise, surprise. You realize that I'm in a little water wars here. You're singing my song right now, brother. I'm going to tell you that. So this is costing, I forget the number right now, but it's so expensive that the twelve hundred residents that live in this township, I think it's called Worth Township in the Thumb, they're trying to sell their homes because their homes aren't worth anything anymore. They can't afford the assessment now placed on their homes. Some of these are older folks that they'll never pay that off. They'll die and they'll sell their generational wealth, their home, to pay for this stupid mistake by ego. These are the kinds of things that really are wasteful. It's intentional. It is absolutely intentional. My mind is boggled at the insanity of this stuff that goes on. And you wonder, who are we hiring? Why is this happening? If you don't come in and shake it up a little bit or shake it a lot, you're going to continue on with this process. You know, if I could just take a little swing to a different direction. Anything you want to do. People ask me, Donna, why is it that government is just spending things outrageously? Why does a hammer that you can buy at Home Depot for twenty four dollars cost the government fifty nine dollars? Here's why. When you buy something for yourself, there are two things that are important to you. One is the cost and two is the quality. Right? I mean, how long will it last? I don't want to buy something that's junk. I want something that's going to last, especially if I put my money in it. That's level one. Level two, if you're buying something for a friend, cost is important because it's your money. And secondly, you know, the quality isn't that big of a deal. You know, let's say somebody, you go into a friend's wedding and they say they want a can opener. They don't list anything there. And you have a Sunbeam for a thirty nine ninety five and you have a high end one for ninety nine ninety five. You probably will buy something in between that and you probably won't get the lowest, least expensive one, but the quality is not that important because it's not something that you're going to keep. You know, by the time it breaks down, you know, you're going to they'll they'll probably forget who gave it to them. In government, when they spend money, It's neither their money, nor does the quality matter. So, what they do is. They, it doesn't matter because they'll be gone if something's overpriced though, they will have turned out or maybe they won't get voted back in. It doesn't matter because it's not their money and quality doesn't matter. That's why the auditor general just went after the Michigan Department of transportation. Michigan Department of Transportation is not enforcing the warranties on the roads. Who is the Auditor General? What's the name of the Auditor General? Do you know? I don't know what their name is. the name is, but they have audited the Michigan Department of Health and Human Services. They've audited MDOT and they found things really, really bad going on in corruption. And so when I talk about Michigan Department of Transportation or even politicians who vote for these things or non-elected bureaucrats, let's look at it like this as well. When you send out a bid, I may have mentioned this to you, but when you send out a bid, usually you get three back. By law, they have to get three, but Byron Township, it doesn't work that way. They give one no bid contract, so they only get one in. So I digress, but yeah. Yeah, no, but it might as well be that way anyway, because that's the way it works in Lansing, because what they do is they put out for three bids and Normally, you get a low bid, middle bid, and a higher bid. Well, the people who are opening the bids, they don't really care what they are, A, because it's your money, and B, because whoever they give the bid to, that person's more than likely going to give money to that politician's re-election campaign. That's how it works, and that's the system we have to break. It just has to stop. We have that in, it happened in Taylor, Michigan. There was a guy who put a bid in for towing for law enforcement or accidents. His bid was way lower, way lower than the guy who had it before. But guess who got it? The guy who had it before. He had donated undoubtedly to other campaigns. Those are those are big things that are important to me. You know, people say, Ralph, well, what would you look for when you go into being governor? Well, first of all, we're going to hit the road running. We've already been investigating corruption. We've already been I've got people on my team who are looking into things right now because I'm not going to wait six months to start. I'm going to start on day one. So I've been interviewing people, talking to people about different areas that they would serve in. And there's a lot of excitement about people coming on board because they know Michigan's broke and needs to be fixed. Not broke financially, but broke in terms of corruption and every other way. And the people that are interested to fix education, to fix the Michigan Department of Health and Human Services, they are really excited about it. Um, I just, I just, uh, grabbed some more information right here. Cause I thought this was interesting. Doug Ringler was not appointed by the governor there, but he's, he's our, our, um, uh, hang on a second. Let me go back here a minute. I just want to make sure I know what I'm talking about there. Auditor general of Michigan serves eight years. He was appointed in. And, uh, at the time, uh, Rick Snyder was governor. Okay. which is interesting. Rick Snyder was the one who abysmally failed in Flint, too, in dealing with that crisis. So we've got a little bit of an issue there, I think, with him, but we'll see if he decides to do the right thing, you know? Yeah, well, he's found some things that Whitmer hasn't been happy about. So that tells me he's on the right track. Well, I hope so. That's good. Yeah, so where I was going just a few moments ago is people have asked me, what would you look for, Ralph, in the budget or in departments? And my answer is basically threefold. One, if they sign nondisclosure agreements, which means you can't see what the agreement was between them and someone else, they're suspect. If you can't attend their meetings, if they don't have open meetings and you can't hear what they're talking about, they're suspect. If you can't FOIA them, their suspect. Citizens deserve to know what's going on in Lansing. Everything has to be open and transparent. And that's why I've been telling people, even since twenty twenty two, we will we will leave Massachusetts behind and we will join the other forty eight states that have open record laws for the executive branch and the governor's office. You know, why shouldn't people know what's going on in Lansing? Why shouldn't people know the deals that are being made? They do deserve to know that it's their money that's being spent I'm all about truth and transparency, Donna. And one of the things I'm going to have in my office is a round table. And every month I'm going to have people come in and sit down and share the needs that they have, the concerns they have, maybe the good insight they have. The more you listen to people, you get great insight. But it's going to be a round table, a citizen's round table where people come in and share. I'm also going to have a bills waiting room. You know, you listen to the legislature and we've seen this in the recent months. They'll sit up till three in the morning debating something and then they pass it and it goes over to Governor Whitmer. She signs it at five oh five a.m. It's like two weeks later we find out what happened. Why did they sign that? How come I never heard anything about that? Well, Bill's waiting room is going to have two weeks before I sign any bill. I realize there could be an emergency, something like that. But the reality is I am going to give the people of Michigan a forum to respond to this proposed bill from their legislators before I sign it. I want to hear what they have to say. Have you looked at any other issues around bills that go through Michigan Capitol and seen any other deficiencies there? Well, I was on a legislative phone call this morning, and one of the things is they're passing a bill for Laura, the Licensing and Regulations Administration. They are passing a bill to prohibit Laura from certain activities. here's what they do this happens in the dnr this happens in eagle this happens in laura it happens in every department and the reason why is they need to fund themselves they need to show that they're writing tickets so here's what happens The Laura bill specifically said that when Laura goes into a building where there are other things going on, say for example, a mall and there's a daycare center in the mall, because Laura is in there to check up on the daycare to make sure that There's no abuse to make sure there's nothing crazy going on financially. They cannot, by law, go into Aunt Anne's kitchen or whatever. They can't start looking around if they're going specifically in for that. When DNR enters someone's property, there's the open fields doctrine. If they're going for something specific, they can't look in the barn and say, oh, gee, that's not right there. You need to fix that. By law, they can't do that. This law, when I heard about this law before the legislature this week, I almost laughed. I'm like, are you kidding me? Is this common sense? Why are they snooping out everybody else's business? Why are they, you know, why is Eagle going in to write a ticket for, you know, a pond or something? And they find out there's three other violations. This is just, it's the expansion of government. They think that they have all this control over us as people. And it's just that regulatory state that we really need to, As I mentioned earlier, we need to have two thousand of those folks retire through buyouts. Yeah, that's a that's a good good thing. It's definitely we're definitely past the point of anything that looks like sanity with all of these unconstitutional agencies and such. And they've truly got to have some some abolishment of any power that they have. And if it's not constitutionally allowable, they have to be nullified. So kind of interesting. I was reading a little bit more on the independence from the executive branch for the inspector or the... Auditor General. Auditor General. It's kind of interesting. So, but it's fun to, I think this is the other thing that we can really encourage our listeners is that when topics come up that you're hearing somebody speak on them, let it start getting the questions coming to your head. Say, wow, I never, I don't know anything about this. I guess I'm going to look into this a little bit. So that through this process of listening and then responding by an action, you can actually help educate yourself, which would help our elected and unelected officials know. I mean, know what we know and help them because one person can't do it all. It has to be a group effort. Government is a participation sport. By everybody. And whether you decide to just tear your money out of your hands, I mean, that is a choice to sit there with a kick me sign on your back. And if that's what you really want, it's not what I want, or you can get in the game and help people that are willing to step up like Ralph. Well, here's what's interesting, Donna. Everybody's involved in government. I mean, there are people who I talk to all the time and say, oh, I don't care what goes on in government. It doesn't affect me. It does affect you. In fact, you may not be involved in government, but they are involved in your life. And what I'm telling people is you can either be a donor or you can be a shareholder. A donor is someone who just gives their money and they don't really pay attention because they believe in what's going on. A stakeholder or a shareholder goes to the meetings. They want to know how their money is being spent. They want to know the return on their money. They're asking questions. And so I'm calling everybody that I talk to to stop being donors, but be stakeholders. Get out there, ask questions, look at what's going on and straighten it out. And the more questions we ask, the more corruption is exposed. And the more corruption is exposed, the more people hear about it, the more people that hear about it, the more people wanna do something about it. And again, Donna, I'm convinced that I'm that candidate. And I'll tell you what's funny. I spoke at one of the Republican debates. I was walking out of the building last. Every other candidate had split. You were talking about giving your speech and leaving. Everybody was gone, but I was just standing around talking to some people. And I walked out and there were a group of Gen Zers. I did the same thing. I always stayed. to the last drug was hung but the plastic political action figures they leave the stage and they just they don't really talk to anybody you can watch them looking they know where that that quick exit is to get out the door exactly so as i was walking out there were literally twenty to twenty three guys standing outside in a circle and they were just talking about it these guys represented the every candidate was on the stage every candidate and they said to me ralph Your answer on the marijuana was the most profound because you told us the truth. Everybody else just said, oh, it's in the constitution. We can't do anything about it. They said, we're voting for you. And these are people that were hired by the other candidates because they're looking for someone who's going to stand for truth, who's going to tell them the truth, who's going to draw the line in the sand and say, we're not going any farther than this. And that's who I am, Donna. I mean, the more I get to talk, you know, with you, I'm impressed with, you know, your, you know, network and the people you're sharing truth with and your research. And I trust that as people get to know me, that's exactly what I am. I look for truth and I know truth always rises to the top. It does. So as I've told people, and I guess we should just close with this, I want people to look at my candidacy and look at my governor, my terms as governor, that I would be the most transparent, honest, open, willing to share truth governor in the history of Michigan. That's what I'm all about. And that's where I'm headed. Well, that's cool. I actually have a couple other questions for you if you've got the time. If you don't, then we can move on. I'd like to hear from your words because I know what my world was like and what it was going through the process in twenty twenty two. And all the corruption that you can see all the way through it. What was your experience in twenty twenty two? And what is the experience now since you got discluded from District eight meeting in a very brutal way, I might add, which was uncalled for and shame on all of you over there who was involved in this. I have no respect for any of you at this moment in time. And so you've got a chance to redeem yourself, make it happen or ain't going to happen. So what what happened from your perspective in twenty twenty two that was shocking to you or where you saw the system really was? I'll say you don't have to say it, but where the system was rigged right right out of the chute. And then is it are you seeing the same thing in this one or have you fallen out of grace with the powers that be? And that means the money people like the ones like DeVos who abandoned President Trump after playing along and ditching it all on January seven. Well, that's interesting because we've kind of touched on this throughout the whole interview. I have a huge base of people who respect me. I mean, I'm convinced I'm going to win the primary and I'm convinced because we're running in at least five lanes right now and other people don't even know what's going on in my race. So number one, I'm convinced I'm going to win and I'm going to win with Republican votes. I'm also going to win with Democratic votes in the primary. I believe people are going to switch over to our campaign and forget Swanson or Benson. So when we talk about what I've seen and the rigging, it's pretty much the party elites. I would say it's the party elites and their minions. I've never received money from big money people. In fact, I wasn't even invited in twenty twenty two when the other four governor candidates on the primary ballot were invited to meet with them. I wasn't even invited. I didn't even know what happened. So they left me off of things back then. They left me off of emails to other governor candidates. I know you mentioned that happened to you. They've left me off of a debate stage and they always give. These lame excuses. And I wasn't going to run again. I had people all over the state for the last two years asking me to run again. I'm just like, you know, I don't think so. This is just outrageous. You know, we got same old, same old. So when I talk about the corruption in the party, I'm really talking about the elites and those who are in leadership trying to keep control of what's going on. I have seen the same thing. And when I decided that we, Carol and I were on this, right on this moment of do we run or not? And at the convention, people were asking me that. And I just told Carol, you know, if the same people who messed with us last time are elected to power, we won't even have a chance. And that person did not get elected as the chair of the Michigan Republican Party, but another person did, Jim Runstad. And I'm like, well, here's our chance. We should be able to have a fair shot at this. So the bottom line is, I said, when we see this happening again, when they try to silence me or keep me off of emails or keep me off of the stage or keep me off of debates, I'm just going public with it. I'm not gonna mess with this anymore. And so that's why I said, you know, we're looking at the first run as being bootcamp. You know, you learn, and I hate to say this word, you learn what the enemy does because these people are not interested in the betterment of the state or the citizens. They're only interested in padding their pockets financially. So when you learn their gimmicks, their tactics, that's what they're doing. These are the tactics that are used by party elites. So I am going to expose that whenever, wherever, and just telling people the truth. It's not gossip, it's truth. And the citizens of Michigan, I don't care if you're Democrat, Republican, or independent, or you've never voted before, you need to know what's going on in Michigan and the people that are trying to control the state. And they actually are controlling your state and are controlling your life. We will stop that. Awesome. Well, and and anything else that you want to elaborate with the process right now, or are you thinking that we switch subjects to God? No, no, we are. We're going to have a press conference this week. We'll invite you down. I'd love to have you come. We're going to invite everybody. Yep. I appreciate that. And you know, people are going to ask me questions and I'll have to answer those questions because that's what I said. I want to be transparent and honest, but you know, it's the party elites. It's again, let me just give you one statement. When I first was thinking about running, I met with a person in Ron Weiser's office and, And this gentleman, this is in twenty two. Yes. And went to went to breakfast with him. A friend of mine knew him. And so we connected for lunch. And he said, Ralph, he said, I want you to know that people are going to shake your hand and they're going to say, we're so glad you're running for governor and they're going to stab you in the back. Like Ron Weiser does. Right. You know, the interesting thing is, Donna, that guy stabbed me in the back. I am sure he did. And I'm like, wow. So it, what I learned in the last run is, You really can't trust anybody other than the team that you have and the team you know. So everybody's distrustful. And I hate to say that. I shouldn't say everybody. The party leadership is distrustful. So when I get an email from someone, I'm asking myself, is this being a setup email because someone's asking them to send it or a comment on my Facebook page or one of my social medias that, you know, Ralph, what about, you know, you totally went against the policy. Christina Karamos, the people wanted her out and you didn't listen to the people. Donna, I wrote a four page explanation of why they railroaded her out. Now, you know, I've told people if Mickey Mouse was the chair of the Michigan Republican Party, I would have come to Mickey Mouse's defense. So it wasn't necessarily the person I was supporting. It was the process was raped by the elite. They had their quorum, which was, I don't know if it was thirty nine or forty one. There are people who aren't qualified to even be in that quorum. They weren't members in good standing. But yet their name's on the list and they voted Christine out. She's gone. I'm like, you can't do this. Your meeting wasn't even legitimate. Well, it sure is a mess out there. But it's good that good people are stepping forward to get into the game to fix it. That's, I guess, the biggest takeaway from this is that we all have to get involved and do things. I'm going to revisit Ron Weiser because I did an investigation on Ron Weiser. And I don't know if you know this, but he was part of the Atlantic Council. And he also had his finger with with going. Let's just say making money look clean again by going through some of the universities as well as ties to donation to Biden and Burisma oil. Not a good look. Not a good. Well, he's also donated to Dugan's camp. I don't know if you've seen that. Not a good look. Not a good look. OK, I make a comment there. So I've never met I've never met Duggan or Duggan or however you say his name. But I'm going to tell you right now, anybody that's in office got there by kissing the ring. I don't care who the crap you think you're talking to or the great, wonderful story that they've given you. They have all kissed the ring. And I'm not talking about a good ring either. I think we know what kind of ring that I'm talking about right now. And that's your first clue, guys. The clue of the day. They kissed the ring. They took the ring. Yeah, go ahead. May I add on the Dugan? You know, Dugan's running as an independent, right? Yeah, because he's so bad, neither party even wanted him. That is the point. That is the point because you have typically Republicans. This is on my right. I should go over here. So it looks like it. No, that's right. You have the Republicans on the right. You have the Republicans on the right, the Democrats on the left. So he's running as an independent, which typically is somebody in the middle. His policies not only have been democratic his whole life and he's not going to change. He's not an independent, but his policies are actually left and more radical than the Democrats. Donna, I don't know if you saw this, but he and Whitmer were in Detroit in twenty twenty two, I believe it was when the World Economic Forum opened their first office in the United States in Detroit and they were cheering him. Whitmer's gone to the World Economic Forum meetings. Dugan, I presume he has as well. But if you go on, we're going to have a video on my website. It's about thirty five, forty minutes long on the World Economic Forum. These people are not only globalists, they're radicalists. They want to go from trans humans or transgender to transhuman to make us gods. I mean, their whole concept is ridiculous. It can never happen. It's evil. And that's what we're fighting against. And, you know, the the fifteen minute cities, they want everybody to move out of the country into the cities to save electricity, to save the planet. You won't be on your farm anymore, Donna. You're going to be downtown Grand Rapids living in a twenty story high rise because that's what the globalists want you to do. In fact, the most interesting thing is on their website, World Economic Forum said this. You won't own anything, but you'll be happy. Yeah, isn't that that? That's that's who Dugan is. So that's why I'm saying he has left. In fact. During the last debate in Traverse City, I made the statement that Mike Dugan is a political transvestite. Everybody laughed. Yeah, everybody laughed. And I just followed up with this statement. He thinks that he can change his clothes and be something different than what he's always been. And he's not going to fool us. And I'm going to call him out on it. Yeah, no, that's really good. I've been waging war against the World Economic Forum for years now and telling people, you know, look at who is who in the zoo, their young leadership, the people involved, including Gilchrist, who's up there right now and, you know, sitting second command to Whitmer's tyranny. But you really need to, really, everybody needs to really look into people. And, you know, another thing that I'm really against, I'm against the voter guides. because they're all bought and paid for too. You've got to get to know the candidates. You've got to know who's standing where and if they really are who they are. But voter guides too, they should be abolished because those are all paid for endorsements, guys. I don't care what you want to say. They're either getting somebody in that's going to do what they want done to protect their little cartel, even if it's a trade cartel. But those guides are absolutely misleading. and another part of the pay-to-play scheme that's going on around there. So good to know the connections there with World Economic Forum with Duggan because it sounds like we've got a real big problem there. You need to tell your neighbors, guys, tell your neighbors what transpired there because at this point in time, we are the news and you need to have those tavern discussions that were had at the forming of our country. Yeah, just Google Whitmer Dugan Detroit World Economic Forum. It's all out there. The plot thickens. So, yeah. Well, thank you. I appreciate you, Donna. Thank you for having me on. Yeah, that's great. Well, we always end the show with a prayer. And what do we do on Friday? Because I kind of like the way that that went. You know, it's like I love listening to you pray. Most people won't pray. If I ask them if they want to pray, they're afraid to pray publicly. And I understand. I understand that. But I love it when somebody else is willing to come up and pray publicly and, you know, really to bless this nation and the state. for the good of everyone. But I would love to, I would love to start that. And then if you'd like to, to end it up and I'd like to say hi to Carol, cause I know Carol's there and I got to tell you, you have an absolutely adorable and wonderfully beautiful, nice wife and all good things come from tractors. That's all I can say right now. She's going to laugh because we had this tractor discussion in text this morning. So, so hats off to all of our tractor brides. and uh farmers out there so she's amazing i'll say a prayer and then then i'll i'll kick the ball to you okay the prayer football goes to you dear heavenly father thank you so much for ralph and carol and i ask for every single person who is willing to step up that you would give them a heart of bravery that your favor would rest mightily upon Ralph and Karen and their family. And that anything evil that comes against them, you would strike down before it even gets close to their home. I ask you blessings on their home, that you would give them peace and wisdom and clear thought, that you would show them the people in their path that they need to associate with and those that need to be cut loose so that they can continue to purify the effort that they're on in service to you. We ask that you would show their enemies for who they are and that you would walk them through this process and keep them safe in your arms at all times and their minds free from manipulations by evil people that want to see the demise of your family, your children, Christianity. And I mean Christianity in the purest sense. Those of us who follow you, who have given our lives to you, and who trust you and who will walk with you every day of our life until our last breath. We thank you so much for the goodness that you've built into all the people that are out there. Let them know that they're loved. The evil that we see in the world is not our identity, is not remotely our identity. And help us to celebrate those things that are beautiful, keeping our minds on things that are beautiful and pure and worthwhile. and that are full of integrity and honor as we serve you. Our worship totally and only goes to you alone, the lamb that was slain. And we invite your Holy Spirit into our lives every single day. We accept your gift of salvation. We love you so very much. You're totally amazing. Continue to talk to us and show us exactly what needs to be done and give us the feet to walk the path that you've laid ahead of us, no matter what it is. that we would lay down ourselves, our egos, our biases, and our plan. Because our plan always is bad. We make bad plans, okay? So we want to give up those plans and just follow you and your plan. And we just love you so very much. May we be a blessing to you today as you have to us. In Jesus' name we pray. Amen. Father, we thank you that you give us the privilege of calling you Father, the creator of heaven and earth who orders everything in this world from the smallest to the largest events. We thank you that you care about the things that are going on in our lives. And Lord, we thank you that you care about Michigan. We thank you that you care about America. You care about countries because you state in your scriptures, blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord. And Father, as we come to you this day, we thank you that even as we read in the Psalms, this is the day that the Lord has made. We will rejoice and be glad in it, and that your mercies are new every morning. And Lord, much the same that prophets in the Old Testament prayed on behalf of the nation, calling out even David, King David, he committed sin that was just horrible. He then turned his heart in repentance and prayed on behalf of the nation that their sins, Lord, would be blotted out. And so as I pray today, I pray, Lord, that you would have mercy once again on this state, on our lives, that you would forgive us, myself included, for my sins, the way I have offended you, the way I have not completely followed, the ways that we want to but don't. And you know our hearts, Lord. And we pray, God, that just as you forgive our sins, would you help people to realize that we are in the presence of a holy God who doesn't allow sin in his presence, but only we are allowed because of Jesus who paid for our sins, who gave us a clean slate, and who gives us a new future. So, Lord, as the scriptures tell us that the eyes of unbelievers are blinded by Satan, that they have a hardened heart, that their consciences are seared, may we be reminded that it requires a divine intervention, a spiritual heart transplant, surgery to remove cataracts, and the Holy Spirit to work in their hearts as well. So God, we know that the mountain is big. We know that the task before us is too large. And so the only way that I will become governor is if you intervene if you foil the plans of those who would plot against us. And so, Lord, we would ask that you would do that because we believe it's time for our country and our state to understand the fact that our founders believed in you and they knew that in following the principles in your word, we would have a great nation. So as we are in that year where we will celebrate our two hundred and fiftieth anniversary, we ask Lord for another great awakening. beginning here in Michigan, but even beginning in our hearts. In the name of Jesus, I pray. Amen and amen. Amen. Thank you. Well, that's fantastic. And I love interviewing you. You're a great interview. You're a great questioner. It's good having the knowledge that you do and all the research that you've done because it helps spark the things that we need to talk about because they are important. You know, Donna, one last thing. This is not a academic pursuit for me. This is a life and death pursuit because I look at the next generation and I care about those kids. You know, whether they're in school and they're being indoctrinated, we need to stop that. Whether the budget's going to burden them for the rest of their lives, whether they're going to have the fifty year mortgage. I mean, all of this stuff is just not the American dream. And somebody from the outside It has to come in. And I believe I'm that outsider has to come in and do some crazy things that will be to the benefit of the whole state and everybody in it. Well said. So wonderful. And the second interview I have with people is always better. Because everybody's more comfortable. It's fantastic. And I like your snow backdrop there. Yeah, it's crazy. I should turn the camera. We've got at least a foot of snow sitting on the picnic table outside the door here. And it's even deeper than that because I've been wiping it off. So we've got a lot of snow up north. That's that's amazing. So ours has started to melt, which I'm glad because I don't struggle quite so much taking care of the horses. But and and, you know, but I haven't been out much because I haven't been feeling good. So we're working on that right now. And I think every day you just get a little stronger. So word of encouragement to everybody out there. You know, it's like Ralph is doing and what I did. It's like if things come against you, you're probably over the target. If somebody is being attacked, there's a reason why they're attacked. And just like they attacked President Trump. and some of the other wonderful patriots that are out there. If somebody's being attacked, take a good look at them. Do your own research. Don't take anyone's words to heart. Listen to them as information to evaluate and judge. Don't let anybody guilt you into something or manipulate you into something. Do it with pure intent of your own, listening to God and walking his path, which may seem counterintuitive to everyone. That's okay. It's still his path and you have to follow him. Follow him alone. And if you decide to get behind somebody, do the work. Don't just do a lip service to it. You have to be willing... to help them in a material way. And that means in my opinion, we cannot spend them. We cannot fundraise them. It's not possible because they're printing the money, right? So what we have to do is we have to, we have to out effort everyone else. We've got to get in and put an effort in and, and really walk forward. So, and I just got to tell you, I think that Ralph, Ralph and Carol are just absolutely some of the nicest people I've met. They're just nice people. And, you know, so you will enjoy the conversations that you have with them because they're just nice people. And that's that's a. That's a wonderful thing to meet somebody that puts others in front of themselves. But at any rate, we're going to go to that point of the show, boys and girls. This is my twenty twenty two protests because I'm not that nice of a person. I really am not. I hate bad guys. I will say that. I say it openly. I'm like ready to get on my little white pony with the swords out, OK, and start cutting it down to size. And so I like I like people, but I don't like bad people. So I'm still lodging my protest against twenty twenty and twenty twenty two. We cannot move forward until we write what has happened in the past. You don't walk away from a murder situation and say, guess what, guys? And we find we're just going to go on. We're just going to forget that happened because we're going to fix things going forward. It can't happen. It doesn't happen that way. And that's what happened. They murdered our elections. They took our voices. They silenced us and censored us. We have to go back and write things and never walk away without finishing the job. And that needs to be done. So here's my twenty twenty two protests. Ding, ding, ding, ding. Go to Brandenburg for Governor dot com because I'm the best non-conceder who's ever not conceded in history. The United States of America. And I'd like to have a discussion with the rightful president of the United States, President Donald J. Trump. I wear them better. We're going to have them. There's no question because I wear them every day. Right. And then we're going to have have a good laugh about it and then get down to really fixing things. And so with all of us standing together as one nation under God, indivisible. And I think that that's where I'm going to stop the statement right there, because we are one nation. And you know what? It's like for Ralph and I to sit down here and talk is a really beautiful thing because we are united in the same cause, the cause of of godly government and the cause of serving God with no transactions or promises of gains in any way, shape, or form. And so with that said, stand in line, Ralph, we'll talk a little bit when we're off here. God bless you all. God bless all those whom you love and God bless America. Make it a great day. Bring peace into any situation or when it's required on your little white pony with swords hanging out, right? And ready to stop the bad guys. But realistically, um, and most of the people that we know on a personal basis are just, just like us, you know, they're trying to get through life. They're trying to do the right thing and they make mistakes. And that has to be approached with a great deal of respect for the creation of them imperfect as they, and we are God created us. And so honor God by treating people with honor and, and, uh, even if we don't always agree. So anyhow, we will see you tomorrow. I'll be back on with John and Mike tomorrow. I'm looking forward to get back to the study of law because I really enjoy that a lot. And so tomorrow we'll be back on. So join us again tomorrow and maybe we'll get Ralph to get back on because my list of questions is growing by the day. And I think it's going to be a fantastic process for everyone to get to know people who have the guts to come forward and face a fairly tough interview. I get it. So have a great day and we'll see you tomorrow.