Published Dec. 4, 2024, 9 a.m.
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Good morning and welcome to Brandenburg News Network. I am Donna Brandenburg, and it's the fourth day of December twenty twenty four. Welcome to our show today. So we're going to start out with Liberty Essentials with Bill Moore, Karen the Riveter and Ralph the IT guy. And then we're going to be going at ten o'clock to to Dave Summerall, who is really interesting. He's got a lot of things going on and he's always fun to talk to. And I wanted to start out just addressing something, but I'm going to bring everybody on first. Morning, guys. How you doing? Good morning. Good morning. Oh, we're all in our places with bright, shiny faces. So last night I had an interesting night last night. I actually went to the Republican, um, the, the, and, uh, was there and, and saw a lot of friends and such, got to talk to Nick Pearl. They voted him in as the, the chairman of the, let's see, I'm moving this around a little bit, the chairman of the convention. So that was pretty interesting. I met Dick and Betsy DeVos, which I thought was pretty interesting that they were there. And so I wanted to show you, let's see if I can move this back again. to show you a couple of things to see what happened because they actually ran the convention better than I've seen in a while. So I just wanted to show you this a minute. So this is where it started out. I just did a quick video because they were not allowing anyone else to take video. However, Curtis Clark was there videotaping the thing. And I see your smile. So that was where it started. And they did dismiss the fifty-five delegates that had been, in their opinion, illegally placed at the last the last convention that they had to elevate delegates, and they were removed. They took their credentials away, and most of them walked out. I explained on your show a couple weeks ago, Donna, we are the party of law and order. The precinct delegates work for their constituents, and the body is a self-governing body, and for the last couple years, we've dealt with people that don't want to respect the voices of the people that were elected to represent them in their precincts. and you know we saw that tonight when one of the members didn't like the way that certain members voted so that individual who's been very disruptive in the county party over the last two years made a motion to remove their voting rights which is in violation of the rules and then he didn't like that he got ruled out of order and he left the convention but At a certain point, we have to go back to the basics of a representative form of government, where people are respecting one another, allowing voices to be heard, we debate things, we come together, we motion things, and the will of the majority prevails. Robert's Rules of Order, the preamble, talks about the fact that it protects the rights of the minority while ensuring the will of the majority. November fourteenth, we didn't see the will of the majority being respected. We saw that being silenced by the minority or attempted to be silenced. We had an opinion letter come out from Michigan GOP today stating that what had happened in their opinion was invalid. We know that they don't have any arbitration over that particular convention, but certainly the expertise from a legal and parliamentary perspective that they brought to the table in that letter validated exactly how I and many people felt with that convention on November fourteenth. So it's easy to go in there today and just reestablish law and order and ensure a free, fair, and transparent process where anybody who wants to run for the executive committee has an opportunity in their district. So we're representing based on geography. which is also how our entire system is designed, right? The state house, county commission districts, all of it is based on representing the people in your district. And we elected based on the Republican voters in those districts. And I've looked at some of the names, but I haven't looked at all of them. And at the end of the day, my goal of the convention tonight was to ensure everybody had their voices heard. And we walked out of there following the rules, following the laws, and it was a pretty good, transparent process. Unfortunately, some people that had a certain agenda didn't like the way things were running and left, and that's certainly their prerogative. But I'm confident that a majority of the delegates clearly feel things were better run tonight, and I'm just happy that I was able to step up to the call and serve the body. So I appreciate everybody being there tonight, and Donna, thank you for all you've done. I thought it was a very, very well-run meeting and congratulations for being elected the convention chair. You did a really nice job running the meeting. Thank you. I appreciate it. So Nick is going to be on Friday. so that he can explain to everybody else what happened there. And with that said, I'll go back to the Curtis Clark thing, because this is one thing that really bothered me as I got in there. And all of a sudden, he got press pass or he was there to video the official video of the convention. And I'm kind of curious about that, because he ran as, you know, someone on the that showed up at the taxpayers party, the constitution party, which is fine, you know, it's fine. But when I question, what I question is, is why didn't they allow anybody and everybody to take that? Anybody and everybody in that meeting should have been able to tape it instead of controlling the message and giving it to one person. And I really go back to, that's the one big faux pas that I saw was that they're trying, when you only have one person one person taping and there was a, you know, I respect the rules, I'll sit there and respect them, but then I'm gonna throw it in their faces a little bit later as being, you know, a truly non-transparent and very, very stupid move. They should have allowed anybody and everybody to tape that convention to get this word out to their family and friends and see what was done because if they had something to be proud of, it should have been able to be out there. If they're trying to hide something, they would choke it down to have one person tape it, or if they're afraid it was gonna go wrong. So is that meeting then, are they saying that that meeting was not subject to the Open Meetings Act? Clearly, yes. Because you couldn't, they put it in the rules that you could not tape and they were threatening to remove people. There was a guy there that I got his phone number of, And they came and made a great big issue out of it. And he put his phone away and he said, well, we haven't even voted the convention rules in yet. And that was under convention rules. And they basically said, if you don't put the phone away, you're going to be removed. And that was even before the rules were in. So we had some, a little bit of a Gestapo tactic there, which I find it, you know, a little bit, first of all, stupid and should have been open because, you know, quite honestly, this is, you know, you come to the taxpayers party, the cat, the constitution party of which bill is the chair and I'm the vice chair, bring your phone and we're going to show you how to do it. Because it ends up being very much a statesman process. Everyone is included as per the rules allow. But it's like, if you want to come and tape things, you come right on in and you tape things and put it out there and we will welcome the advertising that you're giving us. And, you know, and if things go awry, that's okay. We're going to handle it and show people how it's supposed to be handled in a very elegant way. And so I really didn't understand why they kept people from taping. That was the only thing that I saw. And it's like anything. When you have people with different opinions where there's been a rub, you're going to have some controversy a little bit. It's just like a family. And we came in there. When we came in there, there were two different groups of people that kind of had a rub coming into the room. That's just the way human beings work as they work through problems. There's going to be a little debate. There's going to be discussion, which is not necessarily negative. As long as you keep it to the discussion... and you get to the right answer based on the rules, not personality, not I gotta win and get it my way at all costs. It's gotta be handled in an elegant way. And then you come up with the best answers. And I really thought that the way that they approached it with two groups of people that had a differing opinion on how things should have been done, they went through, actually, I thought very, very beautifully And as soon as Nick stepped in as the chair of that convention, that convention had somebody that was able to keep the convention to a very professional standard. And I got to say, I was really proud of the way that Nick handled things. I thought that it was fairly efficient as they worked through getting past some of these things that hadn't worked so well in the past. And I got to say, you know, I was very impressed on how they ran that meeting compared to the last one. So improvements made. And I'll go back to this. I think that it's the job of political parties to bring candidates to the table without manipulating the will of the people. Now, we'll see if that comes through to this or if they start picking the bullshit states and such, which basically is an elect few that decide who's going to run. Instead of let everybody run for that position and pick the person that's the best qualified for that position, instead of having it be a club of the end kids that are there. So, and it's like, I would really love to see the Constitution Party and the Republican Party. Well, first of all, I'd like to see political parties abolished because they don't work the way that they're supposed to. And I don't know if it can be truly reformed because I'm not sure there's enough people that are willing to stand on integrity and will win over, will want to win so bad that they disregard the rules. I've seen that in the Democrat Party for years, right? if we can reform the parties to the point where, um, we have a structure that, that is actually get some money out of it. So you don't have all the big oligarch families that are out there. Like DeVos's were there last night. I got to meet them. And, uh, You know where the money is coming from and how they fund this through the PACs and such, which I find important. Anyone should run for any office and not be based on money or who you've got backing you to pull the money strings. That's wrong. It's fundamentally wrong. And I would love to have a statement come out of all of them that says, you know what, we're going to stand down and let the chips fall where they may. If somebody did that, you know what, I would be like, wow, this is cool. But I'm not really sure that we have a population that's actually ready for that yet. We're still in the state wanting people to just hand us like baby birds, you know, dropping the worms in our mouth here and not having to work. We need to get up here and be willing to work ourselves. And so it may be a transition time. However, I think that the ultimate thing would be to abolish the parties because they're all run by too much money. There's way too much money. And if anyone wants to run, and that means anybody watching this show, if anyone out there wants to run, you should be able to run and not have them say, well, let's see how much money you raise. How are you polling? Okay, right there. That should be the time out right there to say that we've gone into idiot land. Of the fact that the money is buying our elections and that the people don't have a voice and it's true. It's been chosen by big money. That is fundamentally wrong. So let's see what happens and see if it's a, it's a backing out of a bad system that has bought and paid for our elections and our politicians and get it back into the will of the people, whatever that may be. and defending the rights, the oath of office, which is what we have to stick with, and defending individual rights, whether we agree with them or not. It's not a club of personalities. We don't have to agree, but we do have to respect each other's individuality and rights. There is a limit on that, however. We have to agree on law. We have to agree on the standard. The standard in the law is what keeps us on the rails. If we want to disagree and barter about things beyond that, so be it. That's just the nature of man like you were talking about. The one thing I always get humored at is when anybody... Anybody in the Republican Party calls themselves the party of law and order. Let's put up this reminder a minute. How many times has the Republican Party been in power, so to speak, had the majority, not only in this state, but across the nation and the federal government over the last several decades? They have had the majority, even a trifecta, a couple of times just in my lifetime alone. And yet, what do we have out of it? The party of law and order still remained and kept unconstitutional acts and agencies and programs and continued to raise the national debt. So for anybody to call themselves the party of law and order that's had power and refused to fight the system, it's humorous to me. It's incredible that those words still come out of the mouths of those people, including the convention chair. I think we need to ask questions. And if somebody wants to try to reform it, that's fine. But the go and the work, I mean, I don't believe words anymore. I believe action. Well, even the convention chair, when he said that the GOP convention there was the party of law and order, and then you had made the specific point that even in the rules that were adopted, that only Curtis Clark, one person, was in charge of the filming set. Yep. I mean, last I checked, the First Amendment of our U.S. Constitution made it clear that it's the people's right to the freedom of the press, right? And they choked that down, which was a huge faux pas and put everybody into stupidville right there, according to me. Okay. And so let's see if they actually do this. And they're also voting in rules that everybody's talking about to qualify a person that they have to be able to pay twenty thousand dollars to qualify for certain positions. And I think that's going towards the chairman of the party. Guys, this is straight up pay-to-play bullshit weaponized stupidity right there. And, you know, it's like if they want to be taken seriously, then that kind of stuff has to stop. And they've got to stop protecting the cartel mentality and reach out. If they want the party to grow and have trust... That kind of stuff, I'm going to tell you right there, puts me at taking about ten steps back. And the funny thing is, and this is amazing, because when that retired congressman came to me and told me I had to pay twenty thousand dollars to be there or I would never be on the ballot for the Republican Party. And then offered me a stick of blackmail material on every single member of Congress based on what he said. Which I, of course. Absolutely not. There's the road. Never come back. And I don't want to talk to you again. And basically said, you can use it and it'll get you in. And if you don't, it'll get you killed. And I'm like, there's the road. Don't come back again. I don't play those kind of games. And, you know, and if you threaten me, it's going to end badly for you. I don't care who you are. You don't threaten Donna Brandenburg because it's just going to piss me off. you know? And so, so that kind of stuff and where he said it was going is, is going to be interesting because these people are rearing their heads again, because he admitted that he lived three miles away from a Sean Maddock and that he, she needed a better candidate because the other candidates sucked so bad. He said, she knows she needs you to win out of his words. And I had a witness. And it's like, so where was the twenty thousand dollars going for me to have the backing of the people who are sitting on the board and the executive committee of the Republican Party of Michigan? You don't have to be too smart to figure this stuff out. And so it's like, if we want to play fair, if we want to be taken seriously, then it's time to go hardcore on this and write this nation. Otherwise, it's just political theater. And I think that everyone in that room deserved an apology for taking their rights away to absolutely tape that meeting. That's not about me. I just sat back observing. I sit there and shut up and not say one thing. But I will call you out later for going into stupidville or doing something wrong. But with that said, I do still have to give credit where credit's due. Nick ran a great meeting. And he was dealt a hand of division there. And I think he did a really, really nice job of holding it to order, to unify the people that were in the room. It was a tough job. And for creating peace where there was division. And sometimes a word that is a kind word And a rallying point is what's necessary at the time. And I'm not going to take that away from him. He did a very elegant job of running that meeting. And, you know, hats off to Nick Prill. He did a great job in a crap situation. And so, I mean, we can't throw the babies out with the bathwater. But we can say, you know, okay, this is great. This is great. But now let's take the next step to excellence and holding to excellence. the process. There you go. When you look at the establishment of political parties, even in statutory law, and then you compare that to what Thomas Paine in Common Sense wrote when he was talking about monarchy and hereditary secession all the way back in the beginning of Not only does that happen in governments, kings and monarchs, dictators, such like that, but it happens in the political parties as well. Donna, you'll remember this. In the Constitution Party here in Michigan, it was a couple years ago when I promoted the idea of establishing an executive committee. You remember that discussion. I made it very clear that I feared that that may become the establishment that we see in many of the other political parties. Say that again, the what? The executive committee of the U.S. Taxpayers Party of Michigan. I was a promoter of that, but for certain purposes. And the way we laid it out is different than the way the... branded parties that we've been given have done because they've established basically a king in parliament within the parties that rule and reign over top of the delegates, the precinct delegates, namely, and their district chairs, right? It's a top-down system in that party. That was my fear when establishing an executive committee within the Constitution Party state as well. And I made it clear that that needs to be guarded against. And we ended up establishing it for certain purposes. However, it became in full subjection to those of our state central committee. As in they could take any action done by the executive committee and reverse it on the fly whenever they so choose. So they wielded no power against the main power of the party, and that being the people. That's the way it should have been established, and it may have been at their start. But what we see in the major political parties is it has become the establishment that the people keep saying that they're fighting off, right? The issue being is a lot of people keep playing that game. They keep playing into it, thinking that it can be changed. And they've got it so well protected against. I'll mention one name. You might know him, Donna, that of Norm Hughes. I don't know if you remember him or not. He was a friend of our family for quite a few decades. And he fought that establishment alone. He fought that for forty years. And he died still fighting it. And yet it remains, right? And numerous other people have done the same thing. And that's because we keep playing the same games and we keep trying to play the games by their rules. And their rules are not lawful and their rules are corrupt to benefit the established personnel of the party, not the lower people as the precinct delegates who should remain in control. Right. Absolutely. The hierarchy is. Oh, there's one more point on this photography thing that I need to bring up here. OK, because I'm not going to I'm not ready to walk away from this yet. We have one camera in the room and they, you know, with all the photo, the photo shopping and that sort of thing that can be done. There's no there's no second. There's no redundancy to ever really see if that if that if that footage is going to be manipulated. I will not be able to take it seriously. And that's unfortunate, but that's how I feel about it. I won't believe the footage because there's no redundancy. There's no way to check if it's been manipulated. And furthermore, that congressman, that retired congressman that came to me with the twenty thousand dollar extortion for me to get on the ballot, pay to play and the blackmail material was the one pushing at a McComb meeting as a spokesman, Curtis Clark's video. That's all that I need to know, people, to know what the fuck is going on there. And I'm going to say it free speech. That's just the way it is. But let's go back to what you had to say. And I'm sorry, I know you don't like the F word, but there you go. I know the man you're talking about specifically because I had a discussion with him. And let me tell you, they're all bought and paid for, right? If they're sitting there and the status quo remains, they're all bought and paid for. Even our current legislator in Michigan, right? There are so few fighters, and even those that call themselves fighters, have not gotten up and fought the core issues, but rather... They fight the pages of legislation that just continue to trickle down, right? If we don't fight the core issues, then we're not winning anything. And that's the reason why I laugh when the Republicans say that they're the party of law and order. If it wasn't for them, right, because only them and the so-called Democrats have been in power— have been the representatives of the people for so long. So if it wasn't for the party of law and order, we wouldn't have the Democrat Party be where it is today. We wouldn't have the Reproductive Freedom for All Act. We wouldn't have all of these unconstitutional amendments that have been passed along in the last fifty years. Because no other political party has been in control. They have not been in power. So if it wasn't for the party of law and order, none of this would still be in existence. If in the seventies you had a majority of the Constitution Party candidates back then, which would have been the Tisch Independent Party from Robert Tisch, if you would have had a majority of them at that point, I guarantee you the Supreme Court justices, all four Republicans that voted for the Roe versus Wade whole issue that they didn't have the authority to do, right? Four Republicans, two Democrats were for it, one Republican, one Democrat against it. Everybody needs to understand that. The party of law and order pushed Roe versus Wade. Don't give me the nonsense that they're fighting it. But if it wasn't for the two remaining parties at that time, those Supreme Court justices would have been gone, impeached, just like they should be, because they were outside of good behavior, as our Constitution says. They should have been dealt with then and there, but they weren't. And that's the reason why we got... the reproductive freedom for all in our Constitution in Michigan right now, right? Still unlawful. I don't care if it's in the Constitution or not. We've never had the right to do such things granted to us by God, and the state grants no rights. So get it through your heads it doesn't exist, whether it's in the Constitution or not. I swore an oath before that was there, by the way, and I'm going to hold to that. Well, and going back to some of this political party and the lemming mentality that a lot of people have, and I'm just going to call it out for what, and I get it. When you're involved in a group, you want to make peace and be peace and have it going. And I know there's a lot of people that are trying to do the right thing. I get it. I get all that. But when you see something wrong, I don't care who you are. You have to step up and say something. There should be a groundswell of the delegates and people that see processes that are wrong and just, you know, and deal with it in a way that says, you know, we disagree with this because I'm sure that there were a lot of people. I know there were a lot of people that disagreed with certain things, but they didn't want to say anything. And that needs to stop. People need to have the courage to say what needs to be said, even if they think it's going to rock the boat. It's an important thing. And with the parties, if we're going to talk parties, and I'm just going to bring up a conversation that you and I had, Bill, when after a certain person in the party committed a fourteen-year felony and I'm still holding on to that thing to kick me off the ballot the second time for the Constitution Party because they didn't want, nobody wanted me on the ballot for this because they knew that Donna Brandenburg was going to shove it right in their faces, tell the truth and haul this thing back in and start the clock because it would have been fast, right? And And I brought it up to you. And we had this discussion. And I'm like, I'm giving you a running chance to get away from it. And I remember the words I said. I'm like, this either gets righted, or I will single-handedly burn this party right to the ground. And it wasn't an idle threat, and you knew it. And it was like, it's like this has to end. When somebody does something that is wrong, there's got to be some teeth behind it. And I got to tell you, to your credit and Jerry's credit, I walked into that next meeting, and I'm going to tell you, I came in like this. I was like, well, let's see what survives. And that was the mindset I came into that with. It's like, we'll see how much of this organization survives. Because my intention was that within two hours, the organization was going to be a smoldering piece of ashes on the floor. And I walked in and I looked around and I'm like, you did it. And it was like, they removed, they removed everything. the threat of the people that were involved in committing a fourteen-year felony, and I know who all they were. There were about six people involved in that little shot. And the feather is just sitting in the hat back here because it's just like the criminal, the civil case I got out there that nestled through the criminal case in front of that. I keep getting asked, what are you doing with a civil case? And I'm like sitting out there like a bad dream, ready to jump out of the shadows and attack. So last week I had an attorney that said you need to file a tolling agreement so we can stop the statute of limitations because we don't want to run the clock out on the criminal case. Well, guess what? These attorneys are expecting you to be stupid and not do your own homework. I got six years for that to turn around. And they had another one scheduled in January. They were trying to get me to stop and walk away from that suit and unfile it. And then say, we'll just file it later. It's almost impossible. Had I not done my own checking, even on this, it was another way to remove my standing for going after this state. And I know who is behind it. Sucks to be them because I've got a long memory. And you know what? And it's like, this is the problem with the state. We've got to stick to the rules. And when somebody does something like that, that is being a traitor, that's even a violation. It probably should go to judicial tenure, the judicial tenure committee to have them removed. There's a couple of them that probably need to go through that, including Dana Nessel and Jocelyn Benson, who, for the love of God, is going to try to throw her name in the ring for governor. Yeah, I need that laugh. I can't even... A normal thinking person cannot even go past this without saying... I don't even know what to say. I just, I'm listening to this and I'm just like the whole thing. It's just, they can, you know, I, I made up the word selection because it's a sham election and, and they're not, we, we select people. We don't elect people. I want a new word for, for party. It's not a party. It's a, it's a sham party. Sham. Wow. If you're, if you're like, We are the party of X, Y, and Z. And you don't hold to any of those things. You're a sham. You're a sham party. And they've been that for a long time. I've been in it. I've seen it myself. I've been a part of that. And I left because I didn't want to be a part of that anymore. I was like, you've got to be kidding me. This is not at all what it's supposed to be. And I don't know that it's supposed to be anything. It's not supposed to exist, but we have it. And unless it gets shut down completely, I don't see that there's going to be a way out of it. I mean, you can struggle along. You know, we've called it shining the turd. I've called it standing in the swamp. How can you clean the swamp while you're standing in it? You're a part of the dirt. You're part of the sludge. you can't you can't clean without staining just outside of it you know you can't clean it out it's not I don't even know that it's redeemable you can have good people standing in a swamp it's still a swamp unless you clean out the drudge and I just don't see how they can do that I don't know so I just I just want to continue to have these same problems the after year and I don't know maybe that's just me being uh critical extra critical but I I'm just I'm just kind of tired of the sham Well, you want to impress all of us right now. What I would love to see, honestly. So I'd like to see the Constitution Party be the be the party of legal action and dragging their sorry behinds into. into a uh a legal situation that they cannot wiggle them themselves out of the the criminals and go after these elections which we've got more evidence on of of criminal behavior and fraudulent intent of anything that's ever happened in the history of the world not even the state the state or the country and we need to have some people that are willing to go in there you know, and hold these people accountable, not going in front of these Soros judges, but doing it in a, like, say, a jury proprio, a proprio persona, pro se, whatever you want to call it, like that was defining it this week, because you can't wait a lot of it now. and get in there and continue on. That's why we're doing the resolutions as a jump off point because once you look into that, when we wrote that, we put into that action at the end. You either do this or you are in violation and you've got to have something. So the Republican Party needs to do something that has an actionable consequence for them violating the Constitution, including and not limited to prison time, and in some cases, treason. You want to watch them run for the corner, say that word there, say treason, throw it in their face. Because there's so many of them that are guilty of it, it wouldn't take that long to prove it. And that goes down to the citizens that have supported this nonsense, the townships, the counties, the state. The whole thing is the convoluted rat's nest, the media. Dionne, which is on the top of my list right now, Eagle. But I think another thing, too, is that the the party of law and order, it. There's a difference there between saying we are the party of law and order and saying we aspire to be the party of law and order. One is saying we've already solved this problem. One is saying we have work to do. Help us fix it. And that would, I think, help some. That's right. The party of law and order since the eighteen sixties, when they first overrode the Tenth Amendment and violated the state's rights. They've been working on it since eighteen sixty guys. Maybe maybe we'll just cut a little slack. They'll get it right next election. Right. I'm sick of playing the game. I really am. I'm so fed up with this. Donna, you know. People get talked about in my house, right? Sunday to Sunday. This is the stuff that gets talked about and taught in my house as well. The Constitution, the law, the nonsense with political party, idolatry, and slavery. That's like the number one topic in my house all the time. You come over for dinner, you're going to get a mouthful or an earful of this stuff. With the intent, you get a mouthful and go out and share it with somebody else. That leads into everything that I was going to talk about. We are talking about that. And the problem is when we get so tied up with this mindset that doesn't exist in our Constitution. The only way it exists is in statutory law. And we know that if it's repugnant to the Constitution, it's null and void, right? Marbury v. Madison made that very clear in that Supreme Court case. The Founding Fathers all knew it. It's the supreme law of the land. The only thing that holds a higher standard to that should be the Scriptures itself, the original Torah, which it's based on in common law. So if that's the law of our land, we need to go back and say, where did these political parties even come from? George Washington, John Adams, James Madison, Thomas Jefferson, they all said the same things based on that, and that they could foresee that becoming a problem if the people allowed it to happen because there was no constitutional authority for it to happen. So it's only by the people's will that this continues on. And in a way, we're willing our own selves into slavery. You say it's not all you want, but when we allow this party structure to continue, then we are, in fact, submitting to it. Anything we're not opposing, we're submitting to. Silence speaks volumes. And so one thing I was reading about earlier this week, when Paul wrote his letters to the Galatians, how many people have read this? In Galatians four, towards the end of the chapter, right? He's going in and talking about the Gentiles here. separating the things that were required by the law, circumcision and the cleanliness and touch not, taste not, handle not, which were all nailed to the cross, all the ordinances that stood against us. But at the end of the chapter, he goes in and says something pretty profound. Chapter four, twenty-one of Galatians. He says, tell me ye that desire to be under the law. Do ye not hear the law? Rather, if this is where we want to be, do you understand what it all entails? For it is written that Abraham had two sons. See, I didn't switch my screens again. I haven't learned. I've got to put this on this screen. There we go. Abraham had two sons, the one by a bondmaid, the other by a free woman. But he who was of the bondwoman was born after the flesh, right, Ishmael. But he of the free woman was by promise, or Isaac. Which things are an allegory? For these are the two covenants, the one from Mount Sinai, which genereth the bondage, which is Agar. For this Agar is Mount Sinai in Arabia, and answereth to Jerusalem, which now is and is in a bondage with her children. They were still currently under the law. They were still living under the bondage willingly. Remember when? Remember when they were promoting the liberty that Christ was giving them, they said, we have no king but King Caesar. They were willfully submitting to that bondage. But, he says in verse twenty-six, Jerusalem, which is above, is free, which is the mother of us all. Who's the us all here? He's speaking to the Christian Galatians. For it is written, Rejoice, thou that bearest not, break forth and cry, thou that travailest not. For the desolate hath many more children than she with hath a husband. The wicked are going to outrule in most cases, and only that if we allow them to. We should be rejoicing that the Lord continues to pull a few out once in a while for His name's sake and His glory. So even though they outnumber us, whoop-dee-doo-dah-day. I'm told by my Savior that, that we have the power to overcome, that we can do greater things than he did, right? He says, Nevertheless, sayeth the Scripture, Cast out the bondwoman and her son, for the son of the bondwoman shall not be heir with the son of the free woman. So then, brethren, we are not children of the bondwoman, but of the free. Carry that into chapter five. He says, Stand fast, therefore, in the liberty wherewith Christ hath made us free, and be not entangled again with the yoke of bondage. We see this happening all the time. We still want to continue to play the games, thinking that somehow from the inside we'll be able to change this. I've watched too many people spend decades and decades doing it and accomplishing so very little that in the swipe of a pen in the very next administration, they undo it. What's the point if we're going to continue entangling ourselves with it? I have honestly come to the point where I believe that the federal government has served its purpose in its entirety. And that the Articles of Confederation, though inadequate as they were at the time, could easily be refitted to reestablish the Union of the States as it was intended. I don't know how many people understood this, but originally... the establishment of a so-called federal government, which was really none of the sort in the Articles of Confederation. It was just the union of the states and how they were agreeing to treat each other for all practical purposes. That union required consent of all of the states to change it. Thomas Jefferson said something profound when they were trying to adopt the Constitution. He said, what right does one generation have to subject the next generation? And that's exactly what we do with our constitutions, though at their beginning the intent was to secure the rights of the individuals. There are things in there that we subject our children to, And it's really not our right to do so. That's where I believe the Articles of Confederation work a lot better. However, here we are, what, two hundred and fifty-some years later, And this is what we have and this is what we had to work with. But understand that when we adopted the Constitution to change the existing confederation of the states required all of the states to agree to it. What happened when we adopted our Constitution then? Then it became ratified by less than one hundred percent of the states. Right now, not everybody has to agree with it. And those who don't, we're going to force you to agree with it. That's one of my pet peeves about the Constitution. I don't think it should have to work that way. I think it's very clear that if you're not going to subject yourself to something, then you should not be forced to be subjected to it. All right. It all makes sense. We see it happening on a day-by-day basis, federal, state. I mean, look at taxation. This whole thing, this whole coercion, extortion nonsense is so rampant that I think people don't even realize how long we've been underneath that sort of tyranny. It's become normal and acceptable, and it's not. Yeah, exactly. Go right to the state. I mean, this is trickled down into our everyday lives, this mentality. That's that's the point over generations of time. Right. Well, one generation accepts the next generation will embrace and then the next generation will fight to protect it. We understand that because our kids pick up on this stuff. Right. Which is why it goes all the time in my house. Right. I'm not willing that they should embrace anything that is unlawful. It's as simple as that because my fear is that I'm going to be fighting my grandchildren on these issues. Right. I don't want to have to do that. I'd rather they know and can, can fight the issues with me. Correct. You're a great dad. You really are a great dad. You've got wonderful children too. I do what I can. Right. Only by the grace of God can I be here. Cause if you knew my past, you'd be like, yeah, you probably should have been hung with the rest of them. Right. I'm sure everybody can say that. Um, And I admit to that. In fact, I was just telling my children, uh, twenty and twenty twenty one. Right. I don't know if you all remember this, but our lovely governor here in the state of Michigan, who is allowed to continue once again, our Republican legislature refuses to do anything about it or the Democrats. Right. Gretsch should have been impeached. He should have been absolutely removed and she should have been tried for treason. Oh, yeah, publicly try to do it. Make the point to the next person, you will not. Thou shalt not do this, right? Because you agreed to it. You swore by and all. Where was I going with that? I have no idea. Anyway, oh, our lovely governor in twenty twenty one. I don't know how many people remember when she called a lot of us domestic terrorists. Right. These are the people who refuse to shut down, who continue to work, who refuse to wear masks when the masks say they didn't work, who refuse to get a bioweapon jab into their bloodstream, right? All things that we are granted liberty of, In the scriptures, let alone in law, right? We were just obeying it. That's all we were doing, and we were fighting to protect it for our children, right? We were called domestic terrorists. The minute I heard her say that, I sent her a public letter, basically a notice, right? um to her her cabinet and anybody else that would take it up which none of the legislature did by the way let me let me say that up front but I sent I sent that out publicly and I said if I'm a domestic terrorist then according to law you should be building those gallows in the in the front yard of the lansing capitol and I'll meet you there Because if you're going to call me a domestic terrorist, you better hang me for it. Simple as that. If you're going to say I'm convicted of treason, bring your witnesses. Let's go. Because either I am or you will be. And I'm willing to take it that far. It's as simple as that. And if we are not willing to take it that far, then we are subjecting ourselves to tyranny. We are putting ourselves in a position of a slave if we're not willing to give everything we have as our founding fathers did, everything we have as the great apostles of Christ did, right? Everybody but John who managed to survive and die of natural causes after being boiled in oil traditionally. But if we're not willing to take it that far, we're putting ourselves up as slaves. It's as simple as that. Let me say this, right? One of the big topics of the Republican Party is that it was for the party of blacks, right? Back in the sixties, eighteen sixties, seventies, they were promoting it as the party that supports the Negroes. If you read the Republican signs, you'll see that. It's not my words, it's theirs. And so after the War of the States, that was the big thing, Emancipation Proclamation, right? Oh, all the slaves are free, okay? How many people know that as early as the year of the War of the States, this wasn't the first time, but in the year of the War of the States, it was already our law in this union that there was no slavery? Everybody know that? And it was even before then that there were things regarding the abolishment of slavery, okay? In Michigan... We even have it in our Constitution from that neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, unless for the punishment of crimes, shall ever be tolerated in the state. So the state can own slaves because that's the way our penal system works. Even though it's not restitution, if you commit a crime, the state's going to claim to be the aggrieved party. They're going to force you to do their labor, their bidding for them at the taxpayer expense. And the person you committed the crime against gets nothing. The state is willfully taking slaves and the people continue to allow it. That's the whole point of this. The people continue to allow this stuff to happen. So let me read something because this is what I wanted to get to. Thomas Jefferson, when he was writing the notes on the state of Virginia in seventeen eighty one, it's a huge document, a huge book. And it never intended to be published until until somebody I think it was a friend. A French guy came over and actually actually requested this. but this is just a small excerpt from it, and listen to the wording. Now, granted, this is specifically about slavery, but listen to how it applies to our day-to-day lives when we subject ourselves to things that are unlawful. He says, There must doubtless be an unhappy influence on the manners of our people produced by the existence of slavery among us. The whole commerce between master and slave is a perpetual exercise of the most boisterous passion, the most unremitting despotism on the one part and degrading submissions on the other. Our children see this and learn to imitate it, for man is an imitative animal. this quality is the germ of all education in him from his cradle to his grave he is learning to do what he sees others do if a parent could find no other motive either in his philanthropy or his self-love for restraining the intemperance of passions toward his slave it should always be a sufficient one that his child is present But generally it is not sufficient. The parent storms the child looks on, catches the lineaments of wrath, puts on the same airs in the circle of smaller slaves, gives a loose to his worst of passions, and thus nursed, educated, and daily exercised in tyranny. Cannot but be stamped by it with odious peculiarities." The man must be a prodigy who can retain his manners and morals undepraved by such circumstances. And with the execration should the statesman be loaded, who, permitting one half of the citizens thus to trample on the rights of the other," right? Republican, Democrat parties here, listen. "...who, permitting one half of the citizens thus to trample on the rights of the other, transforms those into despots and these into enemies." destroys the morals of the one part and the armor patria of the other. For if a slave can have a country in this world, it must be any other in preference to that in which he is born to live and labor for another. in which he must lock up the faculties of his nature, conscribed as far as depends on his individual endeavors to the evanishment of the human race, or entail his own miserable condition on the endless generations proceeding from him. With the morals of the people, their industry also is destroyed. For in a warm climate, no man will labor for himself who can make another labor for him. This is so true that of the proprietors of slaves, a very small proportion indeed are even seen to labor. Think of the hierarchy of political parties here. And can the liberties of a nation be thought secure when we have removed their only firm basis, a conviction in the minds of the people that these liberties are of the gift of God, that they are not to be violated but in His wrath? I indeed tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just, that His justice cannot sleep forever." that considering numbers, nature, and natural means only, a revolution of the wheel of fortune, an exchange of situation, is among possible events, that it may become probable by supernatural interference. The Almighty has no attribute which can take side with us in such a contest. But it is impossible to be temperate and to pursue this subject through the various considerations of policy, of morals, of history natural and civil. We must be contented to hope that they will force their way into everyone's mind. I think a change already perceptible since the origin of the present revolution. The spirit of the master is abating. that of the slave is rising from the dust, his condition mollifying, the way I hope, preparing under the auspices of heaven for a total emancipation, and that this is disposed in the order of events to be with the consent of the masters rather than by their extirpation. Pretty profound when you apply it to other aspects of life, which I had not done until this week when I was reading through that, mind you. The hierarchy that is tolerated, that we subject ourselves to constantly, doesn't just apply to master and slave. It doesn't apply to federal and state. It doesn't apply to state, county, or county precinct. But it also applies to work and employee. It applies to church and member employees. It applies to, oh, I don't know, you name it, teacher and student, right? There are some things that are necessary, some things that are just ethically right to be in subjection to if they are lawful and they continue to follow in the intended creator's path of education and instruction of the people that we become not ignorant and forget where we came from. However, when they usurp that and get beyond those bounds, it is the right and the duty of each individual to throw off such tyranny. Read our Declaration of Independence. It is very clear. And even though we are willing to subject ourselves for as long as possible that we can have ease of life, I'm beyond that point. I look at the ease of my children's lives and my children's children's yet unborn. And it doesn't matter what it cost me. As John Adams said, he told his posterity, you will never know the cost to secure their freedom, their liberties. And he says, I hope you make good use of it, because if you don't, I will repent in heaven for ever taking half the pains to prevent it. Think about that. He was willing... They were willing to take it all the way and see it through. If you read some of the letters between him and his wife, Abigail, it is incredible. He will even state that it doesn't matter if they completely ruin the endeavor. God forbid, but it doesn't matter if they completely ruin the endeavor. He was going to see it through no matter what the cost was because the cost, the end of it, justified every means necessary to get there. And that was absolutely true. So when we look at that, what are we continuing to subject ourselves to that we should be throwing off? Right. Well, I think the programming, the programming that people have had for so many years that don't even it doesn't even register programming. That the things that we're living with are such an egregious violation of their rights and the rights of people and actually destroy are destroying this nation. We've really got to get educated on, uh, yeah, this isn't going to happen now, tomorrow, or while I'm alive and take that stance on things. And it's as simple as the things that we see in our township boards. I'm going to go back to a point that you made. When this goes with this mindset in the way that we approach even work, as an employer, I see this all the time. Because as in you and you are too, it's like you have to be willing to do whatever you ask other people to do or have done it yourself. That's that's a hard, fast rule for me. If I'm not willing to do it myself or I haven't done it, I should never ask another person to do it. Yeah. That's our company policy as well. It's my life policy right there. If you're too good to clean toilets somewhere, then you shouldn't be asking somebody else to do it. And that's how I feel about it. I really do. But unfortunately, there's been such a pattern that's been canonized in people's minds that a boss is somebody who just sits back and tells everybody what to do. That's not how it's supposed to work. A leader will, will charge into battle and be the first one in first furrow in the ground in a garden or wherever you're plowing, not sitting back at sacrificing everyone. It's a bad policy. And unfortunately what happens is that when people get promoted in that, that psychotic mentality, they just want to be there and run people around like a little psychotic truck. to play with other people's lives, that's not okay. Yeah, they need a little history and a rewatch of the movie or read the book if you're a book reader. I am not. I find it horrible. I very rarely have time to read books, but I do occasionally. I prefer the movies when it comes to things like the Nineteen Eighty-Four, Animal Farm, or God forbid, if you have the stomach for it, Brave New World. If you haven't read that book, Open your eyes up because that is the establishment of what comes after nineteen eighty four when they when they set up a brave new world in their own image and select the hierarchy and what man can and can't do. It gets sick. It really does. But that is the end outcome when man is left to his own vilest intentions. Right. Ayn Rand. I mean, that's there's another one that is, you know, a spectacular read. to know what the end game is when people walk away from God and try to put themselves in the seat of being God and not approach service with humility as a privilege to be able to serve. That's the reward all of us. You don't do things to get a reward. The reward is being able to participate in good works. I mean, look through the history of the nations. Either we're going to stand up and write this, Well, the Lord is going to come right at himself, and we're going to just have to suffer the consequences of what comes our way when it happens, right? I would prefer to write it before we get to that point, because all throughout history, whenever the Lord shows up, it seems people, nations get burned right to the ground and disappear. I kind of like that part of it, really. I really do like that part of it. It's like, everybody out of the pool. God steps foot on the earth, and it's like, all right, everybody out of the pool. It's very assuring to know that he is just. No less than Thomas Jefferson had said, that his justice will not rest forever. Either we handle it or it will be handled. But either way, the bad guys don't know it. I would suggest you answer for it now while the people have a little bit of compassion and mercy yet, rather than stand before the ultimate judge, who you ain't going to get away with a lick. You're going to get away with a single syllable that you have uttered against him or his people. So good luck with it. Let me tell you, it ain't going to work out for you though. Right. Well, and to that point too, it's like we should conduct ourselves, whether anybody is watching us or not, in the light or the dark, we should be consistent every single time doing the right thing. Because God sees us. No matter where you are, what your thoughts are, he knows us all. There's no getting away from this. No matter what anybody thinks they're getting away from, guess what? He's already in front of you. He's already here. He knows what you're predestined. And it's best to just go to him and say, okay, I need some help, Papa. Help me out here. I'm screwing things up. Raticate our own predisposition to evil. I mean, that's just the way it is. We're fallible. We're sinful nature. We need to rely on him. He's the only way out of this. Remember, he that walketh in the spirit sinneth not. It's about time that we get back to that. Leave all these desires that make our lives so much more convenient and easy that we subject ourselves to. Throw them off. I'm ready to go back to the old ways of doing things. I'm ready to go haul my own water and grow my own food. It doesn't bother me. But as long as we have to fight it, here I am with a computer. doing things in front of, I don't know how many, but I tell you, the moment it's gone, I'm going to be a happy man. That sort of thing, growing things in our garden and, you know, actually sharing food with families and friends and and getting together and taking care of each other on a daily basis, rather than sitting back and go, you know what, I got better things to do. You just go to the hospital. You just go deal with that yourself because I've got a plan for the day. Bad plan. Wrong. It doesn't work. We've already crashed that little ship. What have you guys got to say? To Bill's points about slavery earlier, too, I would suggest people maybe take a look at who the benefits of the forced prison labor that we have, who benefits from that, because it ain't the government. And and the things being produced are also generally not for the government or for the public good. Additionally, you look at the way that slavery actually was, and, uh... People that were considered slaves, for example, I mean, Egypt is a pretty well-known example for their slavery rate being that slaves were required to pay twenty percent of their bondage rate. And that was still considered slavery. Now, I would ask everyone listening to consider how much they're paying to their government currently and consider their state. Would you like me to answer that question of how much they're paying a year to the government? I would tell you right now, you start calculating all the discretionary taxes and all the tax rates. And that doesn't include their engineered inflation. Y'all going in the hole backwards. That's what's happening. You've got not just the direct taxes on yourself either. You've got the income tax, property tax, of course. But then you Sis. Thank you. you you you you you And they. So. So. Thank you. That's right. of government of putting large companies you know but yeah and again next time and make some steps you don't have to sit here and tell you what to do every step of the way because you'll be an adult be able to stand on your own feet and not be a victim when I'm gone let me jump in there and just say when he said I'm giving the power back to the people not to a political party not to the government And now it's up to us to figure out what that feels like in our hand, like that acts. How do we control that kind of authority over ourselves because we're not used to it, but we're seeing here in these last few days, especially. You know, the pain is coming. You know, these people that know that they've broken the law that are asking for pardons ahead of their charges is just an admission of guilt. You know, and we're seeing that in our J-Six community every day. And I think what you said, Donna, is Those good parents that do let those kids learn a lesson, there has to be pain points for America or we're not going to get it. We will be entertained past whatever we're experiencing with Netflix or whatever our diversion is. And I think that's really what we've learned over these last four years. It's just been an expose of evil and corruption for the people to say, we've had enough. What are we going to do about it? And here we sit in these conversations that need to happen. I'm going to play something a second to your point here. If you've got a few minutes, Bill, you're going to love this. Because the pardon for Hunter Biden, we need to get in and dive into behind this and know this. So I've come to love this guy right now. Real trust me, I'm a lawyer. Okay. I love this guy. I think he's amazing. And so I'm going to put this up and we're going to listen to this because this is part of strategy where we get smarter and figure out that there's a strategy. You don't just walk in the door and say, okay, bad guys, we're going to do this. Okay. There's always more behind it. So let's listen to this guy. He's great. Did y'all miss me? Let's talk about Joe pardoning Hunter. And the wrinkle that nobody has picked up on yet, not a single person I've listened to on the radio or anything else has picked up on this. I am a lawyer, not your lawyer. So what Joe has issued is a blanket pardon. Basically, he's given Hunter Biden immunity for everything that started when he joined Burisma ten years ago up until now. It sounds great for Hunter, right? It sounds great for Joe because Joe is the person Hunter would be testifying against if they made some kind of a deal, right? But do you understand how the Fifth Amendment works? If they give Hunter blanket immunity, which they have, Joe did this. He lied about it in June. He said he would never do it in a million years, and then he did it. What a good dad. He's doing it to protect himself because he doesn't want Hunter testifying against the Biden crime family. However, this is where he fouled up. Joe, you got to listen to your lawyers because I know one of your lawyers was bound to have been smart enough to figure this out. And if they didn't, you need to hire new ones. I worked a case one time where they granted immunity in order to extract testimony from the person talking, who was involved with my client. Here's how it works. If you've been granted immunity, the Fifth Amendment no longer applies. You cannot incriminate yourself when you've been granted blanket immunity over everything you did from ant to ant. Therefore, Hunter Biden can now be forced to testify against the big guy. This is what everybody is missing. And this is where Joe totally screwed the pooch legally on this is the immunity gets rid of that Fifth Amendment. So now when they ask Hunter Biden, they put him on the stand if they do. And they ask, how much money did you launder through Ukraine today? to your dad and he says I'm taking the fifth the judge can compel him to testify because he is immune from prosecution on that and if he still refuses to testify he can hold him in contempt and he can put him in jail until which point he decides to testify good one joe proving you're still a complete idiot that makes some good sense I've seen things like that happen in courtrooms. I understand that process. And until it rarely gets used in that sense, it is possible. So it's good to get to look behind the scenes, though. The point of this is to get ourselves educated so we don't get taken down the primrose path. by a Patriot, which is P-A-Y-T-R-I-O-T, but we're actually educated and not expecting somebody else to bring the news to us. We are the news. We have to do our research. We need to not depend on other people, but get ourselves out in front to save not only ourselves, but our family and our country, because we're so educated that they can't pull it over on us. And there you go. I have a thought here, Donna. Go ahead, Karen. So you were you just said saving our country. And this is the problem I have that. I look back at Exodus, for example, that's where we're studying in church. How many miracles did the Israelites see? First hand, and yet time after time after time, I mean, Moses went up on a mountain for a while and his brother Aaron took the gold and out came it says out came a calf I don't know what happened moses I didn't form it it wasn't sculpted out came a calf it just happened it's it's like time after time after time they their ego mind instead of their love for the lord and their and they're following the law took over and they went directly against god over and over and over our country is not the israelite country we're not we're not compared by a nation that way we are all across the world children of god we all have equal standing there we either get to heaven or we don't There will be a small number of us who will make it. That is scriptural. There's a remnant, there's a small gate, not a big gate. So can we save our nation? We, is it in a spiritual sense? We can't save everybody in America. Can we bring God back into our country? All of the things that our nation is founded on are godly principles. So as we fight to return our return, can we return it? Was it ever godly entirely? Or can we just make it better? Can we make it closer to God so that more people have a chance to get into heaven? And that's what we should strive to do. But I don't know that, I mean, How many times have we all asked the question, is it worth it? Do we need to go back to the condition of Sodom and Gomorrah and get that bad so that we want to get to God? There was a man, I heard this story. Um, I've never met him, but he was from the Philippines and he came to Michigan to visit. And he said, your cars have houses, your cars have houses. And a few years after that, I saw where they had heavy rains. And the people in their congregation were standing in about a foot of water. There were benches, not pews, there were benches for them to sit on, but they were standing in the water, collecting to sing praises and worship God. Those are the conditions that sometimes bring people to want to be godly. When we have a small number of us who are fighting so hard to bring essentially to bring God back into our country and the rest are saying, well, I'd rather sit on my butt. It makes me wonder like, should we, is it worth the fight? And Bill, he was saying, I don't, I don't want to fight my kids. I have to, this is, this is what we have to do. We have to strive. But sometimes it makes me wonder, are we ever going to get there? Is our country ever going to turn around and miraculously our economy will be well, we'll, we'll prosper. We'll all be healthy. And then what are we going to look to God to solve all their problems for us or to help heal us? Cause that's what we should be doing. We should be all looking to God to help us. And if we're not doing that, all of everything else is, is for loss. Well, and I think this is a really good point because, you know, it doesn't we we we need to do what God calls us to do, regardless of what the end game and that's his business. So as long as we're doing what's right and we're listening to God in our own lives. He will give a good outcome because all things work for good to those who love the Lord and are called according to his purposes. But for us to try to determine the outcome and have our expectations set on what we know and what we're doing and such, we have no idea how God's going to work that in the end. But we're still held to do what God tells you to do right now today. And follow his leading without having to know where the path goes. He knows where the future is. And, you know, so our faith in God is not faith that he's going to claim it and frame it kind of nonsense. You know, you do this in order to hold God to a contract, which I completely reject. He doesn't have to do anything for us. You know, I'm sorry. And I don't think he's really interested in our comfort a lot of times. He's interested in our best good. And so we do what God asks us to do, regardless of where it goes or the consequences, because our faith is in him. Imagine somebody from today being alive at the time of Gideon. Gideon is like a perfect example, right? This guy at night goes in and destroys all of the idols and the groves out of his own father's house. Yeah, he was fearful. You could see that being that he did it at night. However, he did what he was called to do, right? And then what happens later on? uh when they go in to destroy the midianites right brings up this whole group of guys right the whole israeli militia for all practical purposes and then the lord narrows it down takes a third of them out narrows it down takes a third of my he's left with you know just a couple hundred men and they go out and stand up there with with uh with trumpets and pots and candles imagine somebody from today going hey gideon what's your plan of action here how are you going to win this war I don't know. I was just called to do it, right? That's the way we should be. It doesn't matter the results, right? We're commanded to do certain things. We're called by not only God but within our own laws, within our own republic, right? If we're going to submit ourselves into this nation, we have a certain duty to our fellow man to get certain things done and accomplished for the betterment of the whole, the general welfare of the population, right? One of those is justice and judgment. The other is the constant abiding by the law, right? Certain things we just have to do. We have to educate our next generation, which is necessary, right? Religion, morality, and knowledge. Without those three, you have no good governance in the next generation, our Constitution says. Those kind of things. It doesn't matter the outcome of it. We just have to do it, right? The results are God's. We just do what we have to do to get things done. And if we want to see it get done, let's go back to the way we used to do it, right? Simple as that. With that, I got to go get to my crew at work. They probably need some instructions. Well, thank you for so much time. Bill, you're amazing. Thank you so much for being on here. And I got to tell you what, every single person on here, I would put my trust in their integrity because I know these people. Bill, Ralph, Karen, we talk to each other on almost a, I would say, very, very, very frequent basis. Some of us every single day and multiple times a day. Dave, I'm proud that you're here because I know that you're standing with us as a brother. And it's such an honor. No matter what we see out there, just for everybody that's out there listening, what an honor to be chosen to be here now. Because God chose some of us to be here because he knew we would rely on him. And by his strength, we would be doing his work here no matter what. And it's an honor. And sometimes we win by losing. And that's an okay outcome, too. Because God will take whatever we have, takes a little manure to make the garden grow. And that's an okay thing to be aware of. But I just got to tell you guys, I really love you guys. It is an amazing thing to have such wonderful, true friends. And one of the greatest gifts that I think any of us can ever have is a true friend who lives by God's laws because they're steadfast, they're long-suffering, they're dependable as the day is long, and it's just an honor. So you can go ahead and leave us now, Bill. Thanks, Bill. All right. Have a good day. Good to see you. God bless you and your crew today and your family. See ya. There we go. Well, now we're back to- I appreciate his answer and your answer to my commentary and this has been a great discussion. Thank you. Really has been. Everybody contributes so much and I think that's the way it's supposed to work. We bounce off each other. We help make each other, we tune each other. We see things from different perspectives and that's how we get better. You sharpen each other. I think that's a way to say it. Sharpens iron. That's so great. But I think in a nutshell, what is your freedom for? Is your freedom for being an idiot, Netflix and chill? Or is your freedom to do what's good and what's right? I believe that's what the founders fought for was that ability not to relax and be entertained to death. But to do what's right for them and theirs, to have that freedom, I think that's part of the deception people have been, you know, I'm going to live my best life. What is that? What is that? You know, I mean, we're supposed to live our lives for others, for God, for servitude. And when we get back to the basics and get back to God, I think that's where the success is in how we use our freedom. And I think just wrapping that up, it was amazing to just catch the tail end. I wish I had gotten here earlier. I thought it was great. Well, guess what? You have the opportunity to go and hit the rerun, you know, because we're actually out on, I think, probably getting close to nine different venues besides Brandenburg News Network, where we post and repost. And Brandenburg News Network right now is really set and it's poised to expand and expand rapidly. And I think that this is a this is a, an important thing because quite honestly, it's like anything else, you know, if your name is on something, it's going to hold to whatever standard that you have and people have the right to do whatever they want. But, um, you know, it's like, my name is on this and I give anybody the right to say whatever they want, but I will also counter it. If I see somebody that's that's in, you know, they, and you can disagree with me. I'm, I'm okay with that. That open discussions is a zero censorship platform. Going to hear anything and everything here. And if you don't like it, go listen to somebody else, you know, like Rachel Maddow or whoever is going to sit there and jerky around by the big corporate fake news, fake media chain, right? But here it's going to be different. And I think that our news needs to come from real people, you know, and I always say real news by real people for real people at the kitchen table. Well, sort of, because this actually was for my kitchen table, but now it's a backdrop because I actually have a little studio, which is kind of cool. So in all transparency, and I think it's funny. So welcome here today, though, Dave. This is great that you were able to come on today and all the wonderful work that you're doing. I mean, I went back and I reread what I posted as your resume, as it were, shortened resume of accomplishments. And what an amazing individual you are. Thank you so much for fighting for the J-Sixers. and to bring the truth forward. And it's an honor. Oh, listen, it's my pleasure and my honor to fight for true American heroes. And I think that's at the end of the day, what everybody's going to eventually learn and find out, you know, what a travesty January six was, what an intentional setup and divisive event for the nation. They really just wanted to drive the wedge between the red and the blue, the left and the right, and just make it to where we would never, you know trust each other again communicate again be on any kind of same page and and it's that uni-party and we've talked about this for years I mean it's people on both sides of both parties against us you know and I think that's the reality of of this learning experience that we're going through these people suffering and and you know terrorism against these folks it's it's documented the judges' statements, the things that have happened in these court cases, the raids by the FBI. It's so tragic that the media has been so powerful in covering most of this up from folks. I would still say the vast majority of America does not have any idea of the reality of J-SIGs, the actual, oh, they see what they saw and they think what they think. they don't know the people they don't know the stories they don't know the the torture these people have endured the the court situations the cases the trials the the prosecutors you know this whole pound of flesh thing is really coming to the surface now and people are seeing how vindictive and evil the government has been to innocent people and you know if we don't do something about that and I'm not saying the acts but in some way it needs to be an axe you know legally all that and and I know he wasn't saying you know to be violent either but what point do we say enough's enough you know we've been pushed to this and pushed to this we have to keep responding properly but we can't stop responding you know if you ever lay down they're going to roll over you And that's one thing that Jay Sixers have shown was that tenacity, that ability to weather the storm. And I don't know if anybody in your audience has ever been the object of the DOJ's anger and wrath, but there's a lot of pressure from the federal government. That's why we've had so many suicides. People think, oh, they've had one or two that they know about. You know, we're up to, I think, eleven or twelve suicides. And it's not the people in the prisons. It's the people that are scared of going to prison or the people that are scared of going to court knowing full well, nobody gets away from this without punishment for things that they're not guilty of. And you know, there's nothing like being accused of something you didn't do and then having to pay such a steep price and lose your existence that you've built your life to get to. It's, it's, The church, the community, the school, the neighbors, the friends that you thought were friends that you learn just aren't. They don't understand. It's too much for them over their head. And the human suffering, the pain points, we know as a community what we need to do to carry ourselves through this together. But we're just trying to add numbers, Donna. You know that's what we do. It's about how many people can you get in the lifeboat. It's kingdom business. It's all related. And if I haven't asked you if you have a relationship with Jesus, I'm sorry. It needs to be... First and foremost, because that's really what all this ties to. And with that freedom, with the ability to choose, with everything constitutional, you know, our God given rights are the ones that government is taking away in these day six courts. So what happened? They take the first amendment before you get there. It's a pretrial motion. that you can't use the First Amendment in your defense. Now, why did you go to DC? I went to protest. I went to redress my grievances. I went with the media. I went for God so I could pray. I went to gather in a group. These are all First Amendment rights. The government strikes that before your trial and says, look, you can't use that as a defense. So what are you supposed to say? I went because. And then the government says, we have you on video there that day. So you're obviously trying to overthrow the government because you can't say I was there to protest. I was there to parade. That's not illegal unless you're a J-Sixer. You know, so this is what the public's realizing. And the Hunter Biden, gosh, that pardon is beautiful for us as well, because, of course, it gives, you know, Trump carte blanche just to say I can pardon anybody for anything now because nothing any Jay Sixer ever did. could compare to what Hunter did. And he just got a clean slate. So I don't know if it's going to be blanket pardon, case by case, how the terminology, what verbiage they're going to use on that. But it's going to be for everyone. I can just about guarantee that. I would bet the farm on that at this point because Trump's a J-sixer. He knows what it's like to be lied about. He knows what it's like to have the prosecution torturing these families like this. They did it to his. They've done it to him. He gets it. And he said himself that, you know, nobody in our history has been treated worse than these J-Sixers. So, you know, Donald, we've been working hard on the Pardon Project, jsixpardonproject.com. You can check that out. Suzanne Monk, Tamara Lee, just a great core group of people that have been pushing for years, knowing that we would get to this point. and trying to be proactive instead of reactive. You see everyone jump in the conversation, oh, pardon, pardon, pardon. Where were you a month ago or six months ago or a year ago or two years ago? You know, for four years, we've been pushing this. Of course, the Pardon Project is our carryover from General Flynn. We did the Pardon of Innocence, Tamara Lee, Pat Scopoletti, Josh Mencius, myself, a couple others. for General Flynn. So we had this history. And when January six happened, I called Tamara. I said, I think we made the pardon of innocence for the J Sixers. And sure enough, here we are. That's a God thing. You can't set these things that far ahead in motion, unless there's a big plan. We're just trying to be the hands and feet and do our part. And I'll tell you earlier, they were talking about you just do and you don't worry. You just go. And I totally live like that. I try my best just to say, God, tell me where to go. I'll figure out why when I get there or I won't. until later or whatever, but that's the way it's worked consistently. My wife and I both have just committed that to God to say, hey, use us as you will. This is a temporary place for me anyway. It's not my permanent home. So I just think that if more people understood that and lived their convictions and their faith more than trying to compete with the Smiths and the Jones or do what your government says. I just think it'd be a better place if we could take that control that Trump's trying to give us, learn what it feels like and how to use it, and then have the freedom to do what's right. Are you kidding me? What a great country we could have. True story. And that's absolutely wonderful. You know, everything that has come out of the J-Six tragedy that every one of these feds should be absolutely tried for treason and hung. And I'm not going to pull any punches on this. This was an insurrection and an overthrow of the United States government. And all I can say is where were all the politicians on this that laid down? And I'm going to throw a name out that's going to make everybody kind of shocked. Where was Marjorie Taylor Greene? Where were these people that could have stepped in and done something about it? Where were they? They can have all the platitudes and the great words that they want, but where's the work to back up what they're saying? That's exactly right. I mean, the proof is in the public's eye right now. We're seeing that the media and the politicians worked together to squelch or silence these stories from these victims. The lawyers said, don't talk to the public. The judges put them on Hush, hush orders. The media wouldn't touch it. Even the media on our side, and I say this all the time, Donna, because it sickens me to my stomach. Journalists that know what we do won't share our work. Why? Is that a narrative control? Are they propagandists? Are they paid to pump the brake? Because I see guys like Benny or Julie Kelly or people that... you know why aren't you doing chase pictures why do you always have to talk to one lady that wasn't there that doesn't have the relationships that we do with the people it hasn't worked on court cases and here's the difference donna and pardon my rant here no please do it that's what we do on vietnam well check this out listen you can get rich writing stories off a court listener off of Twitter, you know, you can go to a couple of cases a year. And if you have a big following, you can write that you can get rich and famous off of other people's tears. But here's the real deal. My name is in the transcripts. I'm in the trials. I've testified in ten now. A lot has happened since you and I were together last. Ten trials now. The last time the FBI came to my house was because of the statement you just made. Because I said one of the judges should go to trial, go to court legally, all that stuff. If the punishment is to be hung by the neck, I want to see it. I want it to be in front of the Capitol because this is such a public travesty that's happened to this nation. I mean, this is a travesty. It needs to be out there. You know what? It's amazing that they came after you for saying that because it's like these FBI pukes that are out there and CIA traitors pukes that are out there. They need to turn around and do the right thing because they were the cause of it. They were the part of it. They were part of an insurrection against it. You want to know what I'd like to see Kash Patel do with the FBI? I would like to have him sit there, cross his arms, have President Trump go, guess what? You fired all of you in the FBI and CIA. and then have Kash Patel go in there and have President Trump say, now, go and dig through the record, and let's get every single one of them. And everybody else that's standing there, you either come forward as a whistleblower, or we're going to dump you in the traitor basket. Yeah, and I would say, too, that all of these people that are in these offices supposedly have an oath of office to the Constitution of the United States, correct? Mm-hmm. So in what universe is the Sixth Amendment right to a speedy trial almost four years later? How is that a speedy trial? And if that's a speedy trial, what is a not speedy trial? Thirty years? Well, here's the thing. So that's a great point. I'm so glad you made it. You want to try skeletons. That's what it is. Dead men don't talk. That's what it is. And fair is fair. If this was just the biggest investigation in history, that's what they say about J six, the biggest thing. Okay. So the biggest investigation in history is going to need the biggest investigation in history. Okay. So they put us in jail indefinitely indefinitely while they looked for more discovery. That was their excuse. Oh, we need more discovery. We're going to bounce your, your K. Okay. Now, a lot of people got tricked in the beginning and I want to kind of explain that. the the first couple of guys that were in there signed off on their due process rights because the government database was not finished they didn't have the film so the lawyers were going to these guys saying guys if you go to court right now the government might throw you under the bus and these guys are saying I need the video it'll show I'm not guilty the lawyer says okay you need to wait for the guilt for the video and it will exonerate you sign off on your due process rights So that's why so many of the original guys stayed in and are still in the Jake Langs and guys like that. Some of them got tricked into signing off to wait for the video. So they'd be exonerated, which they never use the video. They never exonerate. They never these lawyers, a lot of them. need to be thrown in the traitor basket and gone down to prosecution for that also. And they can go up there and have their last breath on the hill after they're tried for treason too. Yeah, but a lot of people don't know the ins and outs, like the court, the behind the scenes. How did that happen? And they ask all the time, you mean there's people sitting in jail right now that hadn't been charged? No, that's not true. Everybody's been charged with something. There was one guy that they had in jail for a little while. They didn't try, didn't charge. He's gone. He's out of jail. But they charge you. They just haven't had their trial yet, their day in court. They keep kicking the can down the road for whatever reason. We know that a lot of the guys were around Roseanne Boyland. They witnessed the murder of her by Lila Morris, the police officer, and they didn't want that to get to trial. So they kicked that one back. The ones that had anything to do with the proximity of a death, they put the stall on because they don't want the truth to come out. But the judges... their statements when I said the judge needed to be hung by the neck or whatever I didn't know they don't hang people anymore that's I guess they don't I guess we quit doing that but instead of the fbi looking into a judge because I said he deprived someone of their constitutional rights Now, which is worse, saying somebody should hang or depriving somebody of their constitutional rights? I think the constitutional thing is much more vile than saying, hey, somebody should hang. But instead of investigating this judge and seeing what he deprives someone of their rights, we better look into that. What is this guy talking about? Instead, they spent the time and money to come over here and try to harass me in my house like that's going to do some good. I mean, it's a crazy world we live in. And those are the agents that everybody says, oh, you know, they're just the local guys. They're just doing their job. They're just doing their job. How many times have you heard that you're sick of it? I'm sick of it. I'm sick and tired. Oh, you're retirement. What do you think Jay Sixers have for retirement now? Nothing. Look, we're all in. And if these agents can't be good enough, to be all in just enough not to do this to good people. Just put your foot down and say, no, I'm not going to go raid a grandma. I'm not going to go drag a family out in the street with red dots all over them. When I know that you're just innocent people, I didn't do anything. Nobody's trying to overthrow the guy. It's such a farce all the way around. It just makes me mad, daughter. Well, that's good. That usually promotes action when we're sick of it enough to say, we're not doing this anymore. It's like we've got a judge in Grand Rapids that there's a support group on Facebook. These judges, I'm going to go to the judges thing. Support group on Facebook because of how many kids she's ripped out of families. It's like CPS, largest human trafficker in the United States of America. They're working on it. We are doing a documentary to show the homegrown Theft of our children, the trafficking starts- Kidnapping. Everybody sees the Mexican border as a open door. Do they know that door swings both ways and there's kids that are in America being shipped all over the country? We need to do some math here, people, and understand that the CPS, the judges, the sheriffs, so many people are involved in this trafficking scheme. And when you look at your foster system, did you know if you're gonna build a prison, you want to know how big to make that prison you go to your foster records to see how many kids are in your foster system because that's going to directly reflect on how many beds you need in a prison this is that system that we need to break this is where people need to say look enough's enough I need to mentor I need to help some people I need to throw a couple of dollars toward it I need to be a part of my community I need to have conversations and help bring these people up we've lost that We're all about entertaining ourselves and worried about our own. And that is not the way we were made. We were made to serve each other. And until we get back to that, we're always going to focus on us and live in our best life. And my problems keep growing until I put that on somebody else and say, I'm here to help you. All of a sudden, my problems are not as significant as I thought. That's kind of the purpose. And what we've been about this whole time, even through J six is just supporting that community. And it's been a beautiful thing. We have such a great family now. And it's just people that are in pain that has something in common that are working toward a goal that's positive, not just laying in it and said, look at me, we're doing something. And that's what I was saying about growing the community. We just did a film fest in September, an amazing, amazing film fest called oneafilmfest.com had twelve different documentaries that covered the last ten years of what we've experienced from COVID to the election to January six to the FBI to trafficking, you know, the border issues, the hits on president trump there's there's one that at the end it's a beautiful film twelve different shows in a film fest. It's an educational package, and we just released the post-production video, so everybody can watch it. It was a live stream event, but if you missed it, you didn't miss it. This is an education that people need that don't know what happened about all that stuff, or that just voted for Trump because they knew something was wrong, but they didn't know what. This will explain where we've been in the two threads, I think, Donna, that are throughout these films. It's amazing. None of the films were made to be put together. Like I wasn't talking to the other six or seven filmmakers. We just did our things. But when you put them together, the constitutionalism and the threads about God, it just so, it just exudes from the whole event. And I think that people will come away with a different understanding about not only what we've been through, but on how we need to be and what we need to do to move forward. It's so encouraging. One A Film Fest, like First Amendment, oneafilmfest.com, twenty five bucks. And there's awards, q a panel discussion there's interviews and and it's just a really amazing package but we did that with purpose because so many people don't know they don't have a clue and it's not all about j-six but it's it covers all these other topics and and listen tamra lee uh my partner in this she was talking to one of the tech guys on the internet the other day she said I need help with my site and And he said, well, what's your website? And she said, oneafilmfest.com. He said, well, what is that? She said, we did twelve documentaries. And by the end, he was saying, as soon as we hang up, I'm going to go buy that. He said, I voted for Trump, but I don't really know what's going on. I knew I couldn't do the other. But I really need to understand this. So I'm just so encouraged to know that these are tools. And as a builder, I've always tried to provide tools for the last four years for people to use. To not argue, but to explain and to point out the truth. And this is the evidence. And here's the reality that so many people are experiencing. This is one of those tools that can make a huge difference in people's lives. It already is. It was a fantastic experience to be there. But I think you'll see the ambiance and the entertainment values there. For people to be interested enough, but I can't stress the education we be telling other people because not everybody gets this and people have so many questions. And they're going to have more as these prosecutions and the retribution and and restitution and pardons. They just don't understand what we've been through because they haven't lived it. So it's going to be up to us to get them in the lifeboat. We're going to have to explain where we were and what happened and how we got here. This is the explanation for dummies. I mean, everybody can get this and That's why we made it. It's a tool for people to use and share it. And I just encourage people, oneafilmfest.com. Go check it out. There's plenty to look at on the website. But we're trying to do this so people have the education and have a portal and be the armory of truth where people can go and say, hey, this is something that you need to see to explain where you are for the last couple of years because you just got here you know some of us been in the fight so long we don't know any different we we've been behind the battle lines and we've kind of forgotten what it looks like from the other side and we take for granted people know these things I do it all the time when I speak about j-six and other people are like what Who? Dead? Where? I don't understand. All I saw was this little snip on TV. Sounds nothing like you're talking about. So I lose people. And I'm sorry for that because there's so much information. So when you take it in the power of the film fest, that was Tamra Lee's dream to do a film fest. And we made it a reality. That's what you do to put points on the board. And she said, David, people love this. It's a great medium. It's powerful. And of course, I made several documentaries about J-Six. I was like, hey, let's do a film fest. Never done that before. And it was amazing. God's hand was all on it. I want people to experience that for themselves. You will see what I'm saying when you see it. And with that, I kick it back to you. The stories are amazing. And I had the privilege of being able to interview a ton of the J-Sixers on BNN. And I let them talk for an hour, hour and a half, two hours. Because what I see that this is important, not only getting this out, but documenting their stories as evidence in what happened to them that may be subpoenaed at some point in time for actual evidence of these cases. I'm like... Throw a subpoena over here. I'm all in because you know what's going to happen? We're going to stand there together and pummel the crap out of these feds that these judges legally don't go stupid on me and say, grab your torches and pitchforks and that sort of thing. But get in there and legally hand it to them. Where they can't get away because there's so much evidence of what was done wrongdoing that we need that, you know, the first and foremost, we need to be standing together as one American family and not get distracted by this nonsense. That's going out there to try to divide us. You know, the division is because the lack of focus on a clear path to returning the United States to the Constitutional Republic, which actually worked, go back to what worked. As Bill said, we need to go back to what worked and not be distracted by all these shiny things. When you see suffering, pain and suffering, when you see people's rights that have been violated, that's the first place to put your focus right there. the reality that people need to be aware of and show of hands here who's seen all my documentaries you know what I mean go watch the end of bloody hill and see what we say about that situation of the others and civil war and all these things we're very uh vocal about our beliefs we don't want to fight the other side I don't want to fight people just because I believe they're stupid or just because they don't believe the way I do or think the way I think or whatever. I don't want to fight anybody. I don't want to kill anybody for that. That's dumb. So we're not the Civil War folks. And that's been pushed all over everybody on our side for years because that's what the powers that be really want is for us to all fight each other. And the analogy of the black ants and the red ants in the jar, they get along fine until somebody shakes the jar and That's the government shaking the jar. And we all need to figure out how to get the lid off so we can go get the guy that keeps shaking the jar. But we have to work together. And this is one of those real crossover moments because of what we've experienced in the prisons. And now we're getting the same stories from these other non-J-six prisoners. Hey, I've been overcharged by this Department of Justice. They get this pound of flesh. They get me in the system. They get all our money. They've destroyed my family. The nuclear family stuff, this is things that are affecting everyone. So when we can get past that political division that's been forced on us, look back, look back. I don't think there was that division of animosity and hatred in politics when we were kids. You know, the Republicans and Democrats, you could disagree politically all day long and still do a picnic together, still hang out at church together. It didn't matter. You didn't argue about it. You had your beliefs and that was it. But the media, the government learned over decades, we can use sex to divide them. We can use religion. We can use color. That was popular for a long time. But they found that nothing divides them like politics. And if we can make everything political, even health issues, like abortion or whatever, something that's a health issue, make it political, we can split the country down the middle. Now, if we can have a big event, to where these guys that are good guys, we can call them the bad guys, then the bad guys and everybody. So it's just that bait and switch from the propagandist trying to divide us. And when we, the people come together and say, enough's enough, enough's enough. We don't like the prison for anybody. It's not good for my house. It's not good for your house. Let's fix that. We don't like this political thing where they're pitting us against each other all the time. Let's fix that. We can do that. That's what Trump's been trying to tell people, in my opinion, as he gives the power back to us. And I think Jay Sixers are the experiment of using that, of seeing what it feels like in the courts, in front of these judges to try to exercise that power. And like you said, these podcasts that we do, I promise you, they're in the record. They're already talking about All the things they bring up my statements in my podcasts all the time in court. Check the transcripts. I mean, and then they say good things, too. The other day I was in court. I think it was the ninth trial. I testified maybe the tenth. But the prosecutor said, so you're proud of the fact that President Trump quotes you when he calls them the J-Six hostages. I was like. Well, yeah, I'm proud of that. Wouldn't you be proud of the president? Yeah, because it's true. What do you want me to say? No, no, no, no. I'm sorry he said that. I'm sorry he quoted us. But that's the reality of it. We're that far ahead of the game to try to use the word fair in advance to capture that part of the public's perception of who's framing the argument. What words? They try to use patriotism against us. They call it an insurrection. They say it's unprecedented. Let's use all that in the real sense and say, yeah, it's an unprecedented event because our government generally doesn't murder innocent protesters, blame them for it, imprison them for it, and use the media to cover it up. No, that sounds more like Tiananmen Square. So when people start understanding what's really happening, then maybe they'll have an opportunity to be properly outraged that Americans were murdered and that they were never told about it. That what really happened at the Capitol was nothing at all what our politicians or our media said. And I hope they are pissed when they learn the truth. And I hope something is done about it. Not physically, not a big war. We don't need that. The Civil War was the worst time in our history. I don't think anybody on our team wants to revisit that. Besides, the fight wouldn't last very long. We're too good at that stuff. And here's the truth of it. Look, people don't know my, oh, I'm a great guy. Yeah, yeah, I'm a good guy. Okay, that's cool. But do you know where I was thirty years ago? What I used to do? Do you know anything about me? No, nobody does. And that goes for everybody. You don't know people's capacity or their capabilities or their history or their training or what they can and can't do. So I always looked at it like, look, there's the easy way. And then a lot of people say the hard way. No, there's the easy way and there's the fun way. Which way you want to do it? Because a lot of people would have fun cleaning house. We really don't want to do that. We don't want to do that because that gets nasty. People's feelings get hurt. We want to do it the easy way. That's where people say, I was wrong. I'm sorry. There's consequences. Let's do that. And let's rebuild as a dysfunctional family that we are, whatever. But this is about America and Americans. Not Americans. So we need to find some way to get back to the basics, get back to God and get back together. Or this experiment is worthless. Well said. Very well said. Karen and Ralph, do you have anything you want to say a minute? And then we're going to I appreciate everything you have to say and give you guys a couple of chances to chime in here. I love. I love everything you said, but I really appreciate it because I've never heard it before. The concept of let's get together, unscrew the lid and get the guy that's shaking the jar. That is a great analogy. And boy, you get you get those red ants and those black ants together and they can sting and bite and chase that guy right out of the forest. Yes. That's a great analogy. I really appreciate that. But, um, thank you for, for your work and your positivity and your faith. And every single time I listen to one of the people in the J six battle on BNN, they all, every single one of them talk about faith and how that plays a major role in the effort. And, uh, So, you know, I was bringing that up earlier in the show about faith and how do we how do we bring God back into our country? And you're doing your best to do that with this fight. So thank you for bringing that up. Thank you for that. It's true. And listen, when you have nothing left but God. But God. And he's enough. And then these guys, man, they're they're walk in prison. You know, the guys that go in there and say, hey, this is a mission trip. And if God sent me to Mexico or Brazil or wherever God sends me to Africa, I would go. And then they go to prison and they say, you know, that's where God sent me. So I'm going to do the best. And there's somebody in there I'm supposed to witness to and go do my thing and come back. Those are the guys that come back refreshed. And the ones that go in and say, Oh, it's torture and it's bad. And I don't know why I'm here and I don't deserve this. And a lot of times when they get there, they find God because of the eyes and perspective. It's your attitude, your perspective. You can sit there and take anything that comes your way and feel sorry and be a victim. Or you can just grab a hold of that and say, what are we going to do with this? Beautiful. Well, like you said, I think, you know, uh, we all consider violence to be the last of the last resorts for things. Violence is the failure of diplomacy. It's the failure of the entire legal process, really, about which we're trying to fight. And that's something that you know, that it comes up sometimes because that's what the, uh, what the mainstream media is trying to portray anybody from, uh, Anybody that is more on the conservative side and they are so reluctant to want to do that, it's like this is to be avoided if we can possibly avoid it. And that's what everyone is fighting for right now is fighting all of these legal battles to try and right the ship and try and avoid having that outcome. And to portray the diplomacy side of that, the actual fight on the legal grounds as a bad thing, is kind of absurd to me. It's kind of amazing, really. Well, I tell you, I think you're hitting some key points. And like you said, Don, it's perspective. How can you know about these things if you just don't know about them? The court battles... that have been kept from the public, you know, the videos that have been... Well, I had Troy Smockson on Monday. I love Troy. And he's, you know, he's got his pro se lawsuit for two point five billion dollars against the federal government. I'm like, go get him, Troy. And he's winning. I'm a winner. realize that all of these things are happening that are so positive and we just we just have to do what god asked us to do and it's going to be okay yes and and keep your mind you know keep your mind in a good space don't don't want to make you go crazy because that's what they want that's what they want if we focus on god knowing that god's in control of this and we just have to follow him then you got nothing to worry about because just keep those feet moving. You got to keep being the hands and feet. You can't just stand and let him do it. It's not part of that. Trust the plan thing. You are the plan. You are the plan. Like Jonathan, when he came around the corner with his, with his servant that had the sword, they had one sword. He comes around the corner. There's no Dave cut off. He'll be back. We'll see if Dave comes back. I love the story of Jonathan. Did I come back? That's okay. Jonathan coming around the corner of the sword. I'll have to fix that in a second. But when Jonathan came around the corner and he sees the army and he says, We got to attack this army. They're here. I've got to do it. And he asked the servant, I'm going to attack this army. Are you with me? We'll probably die, but it's the right thing to do. And he didn't say, hey, okay, come here, sir. Let's sit down here and pray to God and ask questions. Hey, God, I need you to send me an answer. Is it the right thing to do to attack this army or not? Jonathan said, we're probably going to die, but it's the right thing to do. Maybe God will see us. and help us or save us. And the sword bearer said, I'm in, a hundred percent. Let's go. They killed a handful of them in the first camp and God sent an earthquake and he scared the rest of the army. I mean, two guys, one army. I like those odds. Let's go. Donna, thank you for having me on today. Thank you so much. Let's say a prayer here and then we're going to go on to our day. All right. Do you want to pray or do you want me to pray this morning, Dave? I can't hear a word you're saying, but I love you sister. Dear Heavenly Father, thank you so much for blessing us this day that we can stand together and we can come to you with all sorts of things that are on our minds, the things that are concerning to us and the things that are victorious. And as long as we focus on you, everything's going to be okay. And we're just thankful that you love us so much that you are willing to walk with us and save us and teach us and guide us and heal us and provide for us. You're amazing. Thank you so much for everything you do. You've been a great friend. There we go. This is part of the show, boys and girls. 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There's a lot of us out there that maybe at different points in time, we didn't have an example. We didn't have somebody to follow or that we could say, wow, this person is a good I am my problem. We are our own problems, okay? We got enough to deal with right here in the human craziness sitting right in the chair. And that's true for every single one of us. So with that said, guys, you know, go out there and let's make this world a better place because we're doing it for God Almighty. We're not doing it for ego. We're doing it for God. And that's the highest purpose that any of us can have. So with that said... Make it a great day and we'll see you tomorrow. Dave Gary on tomorrow and architect Richard Gage again. That the organized crime syndicate running this globe has had the wool pulled over our eyes over for years. We're going to question everything. And you know what? All the buttercups out there, all the snowflakes, all