Published Feb. 3, 2025, 9:04 a.m.
9am Vicky Davis Technocratic Communism Technocratic Tyranny - Vicky Davis The United Nations as an organization is world communism. The strategy to impose world communism on the people of the United States (and the other countries in this hemisphere) has been economic rather than military as the people were led to believe it would be. It's our own leaders who were the Pied Pipers leading us to this demise of the U.S. I'm working on a timeline that shows the who, when and what. 10am Jean Zott and Sheila Cohoon - Michigan and Macomb County corruption X/Twitter: https://x.com/i/broadcasts/1rmxPovzelXJN Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/636616148890812/videos/562726130098131 Rumble: https://rumble.com/v6gg2u1-bnn-brandenburg-news-network-232025-technocratic-tyranny-and-zott-and-cohoo.html https://rumble.com/v6gg3jv-bnn-brandenburg-news-network-232025-technocratic-tyranny-and-zott-and-cohoo.html Odysee: https://odysee.com/@BrandenburgNewsNetwork:d/bnn-2025-02-03-technocratic-tyranny-and-zott-and-cohoon-michigan-corruption:2 https://Live.BrandenburgNewsNetwork.com BrandenburgNewsNetwork.com Guests: Donna Brandenburg, Vicky Davis, Jean Zott, Sheila Cohoon
Good morning and welcome to Brandenburg News Network. I am Donna Brandenburg, making it in here just under the wire. So welcome to our show today. I've got Vicki Davis on with Technocratic Tyranny, and we're going to get right into this and start after a very long weekend. How are you, Vicki? I'm doing just fine, thank you. Oh, my goodness. Today started out as a crazy Monday for me this morning. And so I've got two emergencies going on elsewhere. So I'm like all over the place trying to handle things. I look like a ferret in distress this morning. But we're here and we're going Monday morning and all is well. We're all here, boys and girls, all in our places with bright, shiny faces. So anyhow, how was your weekend? It was really good, really good. I started working on a project. A person that I know asked me a question, and I started to answer the question. What she asked me was, what is Agenda XXI? What is it? And so I started writing a post because I didn't want to just you know, flip something off the top of my head, but I started writing a post. And of course, you know, when I look at Agenda XXI and I go back in history, we reached the President's Council on Sustainable Development that was initiated by Clinton in Do you remember that at all? It was the sustainable in nineteen ninety three. I don't I don't remember much about it. So please fill us in. OK, well, Clinton initiated a project that turned out to last throughout his entire administration. And in nineteen ninety three, he initiated a council on sustainable development. And their second meeting was broadcast on C-SPAN. Fortunately, it was broadcast on C-SPAN. And so as I'm writing a post to explain to her what Agenda Twenty-One is and the origins of it, I went back to all of the reports that were produced by the Council on Sustainable Development. And if anybody has ever looked at those reports and tried to make sense out of them, it's really irritating because the Clinton administration has about six versions of their archives, and these particular reports that were produced by the council are on different pages and have different information different reports on all of them and so it's really hard to put together a picture of exactly what they were doing and when they were doing it I think that's my design. They like to keep us confused so that we can't get a handle on things. That's exactly right. That is exactly right. And I had done this before. They had a task force group that produced, I don't know, six different preliminary reports. But then I found another report on natural resources that I had to put in there. And then I made what is to me a huge discovery. And that is that there was a report on climate change that was being presented as part of President's Council on Sustainable Development But in fact, it wasn't, it was before, it was produced before. And that report negates the idea that Agenda XXI was the result of the Rio Convention. It was homegrown, started here by the Department of Energy. And so now as I'm trying to put these, reports in sequence um I'm seeing that what happened really was that the department of energy declared war on our economy wow when you read these reports and you see what what they were doing and what they were requiring of America's manufacturers, you can see why the manufacturers left the country. Because one program that was implemented, now the report that I'm working on is only a preliminary, it was a workshop, on the idea of extending product warranties. And as you go through this report, you see what they were doing, what they did ultimately was to require the manufacturers to recycle their products after the products had been purchased by the consumers. So it's effectively cradle to grave for manufacturers products manufactured in the United States. Oh, wow. Yeah. Can you imagine the costs that that put on the manufacturers? Well, they've got to have the businesses responsible. I mean, this is what they've been doing is making the businesses responsible to carry out their policies. So they turn the businesses into cops. That's what they did with COVID. That's what they did with the Central States Teamsters Union, which the union itself mismanaged its entire retirement account, basically the pension. and dumped it back on to an unsuspecting bunch of businesses there. I know because I was involved in this. They literally made everything by... I will say right now that there's no way that this was an accident, that this stuff is happening. They are literally waging war against the companies in America so that they can own them all with their public-private partnerships overseas. Yes, that's exactly right. Seen it for years. And in these reports that were preliminary, you can see exactly what they were doing. And it makes it completely understandable. The Department of Energy was waging war on our economy through this program of actually dictating the terms of product development and then requiring the manufacturers to recycle after you've purchased the product, whatever it is. Wow. Okay. So I'm assuming it was retroactive so they could go back in time too. Well, I don't know that it was retroactive because we're talking about... Well, it actually, I think, started with Carter, Jimmy Carter. Because if you remember Jimmy Carter, well, you probably don't remember, but Jimmy Carter, he established the Department of Energy and the Department of Education. Well, I knew it was education, but I didn't know he established the Department of Energy too. That's kind of telling. He was a traitor. He deserved a traitor's funeral, in my opinion. Yeah. Oh, I totally agree. And as you, as I've gone through the documentation, I mean, I'd, hit upon the Carter administration before, because he had a guy working, I don't know if it was in the administration or outside of the administration, but his name was Gerald O. Barney. And he produced a report, there's three volumes of it, called Global Two Thousand. In that report, I mean, they basically laid out what I would call a technocratic tyranny for America's business community and, by extension, our people at the same time. Well, when Clinton came into office, and I started working on that, I was really kind of amazed at how many Carter retreads were in the Clinton administration. And as I was starting to work on this project of defining exactly what is Agenda XXI, putting together the timeline and going back to work on the... President's Council on Sustainable Development, the one tip off was that the report on climate change was produced before the council was even chartered. And so that was a big tip off. And I mean, you know, light bulb goes on in the brain and So everything that happened during the Clinton administration was the implementation of the psychotic, I consider it to be psychotic, plans of the Department of Energy to where they are the ones, they set up what I would call a scientific tyranny. Wow. And they have been driving our economy right up to the time Trump took office. And one of the things that Trump did, one of the best things that Trump did, is that he fired a guy named Holdren, John Holdren. John Holdren was one of the earliest psychos. I believe he worked with the Club of Rome. Yeah, you know who the Club of Rome is. Yes, but go ahead and explain it for everybody, because maybe everybody out there doesn't understand what really happened. Well, in the nineteen sixties. What the hell's his name? I had it, and it just eluded me. Anyway, a guy from—oh, Aurelio Pici came over to the United States. I guess Rockefeller called a conference. David Rockefeller called a conference. Aurelio Pici was one of the ones that... I call him Pici because it's an Italian name. I should explain that. It's not really Pici, but that's what I call him because I can't pronounce Italian words. So anyway, Aurelio Pici... He's the one that actually, I guess, founded the Club of Rome with another guy, a British guy, who happened to work for the UK government in the business of standards, you know, the regulatory arm of the British government. And so they founded the Club of Rome, and the Club of Rome wrote a report or a book called Limits to Growth. And the Limits to Growth is the implementation, basically, of what Maurice Strong, which was limiting our lifestyles in a very kind of... psychotic way. And so the Department of Energy was created within that timeframe. Wow. And it coincides with the rise of automation. Zbigniew Brzezinski wrote a book called Between Two Ages, something about the technotronic era. And I happened to be working in Silicon Valley at that time. It was not called Silicon Valley at that time. It was just Santa Clara. And there were a lot of high-tech you know r d type companies there and um the company that I I got my first programming job was with the national semiconductor and they were building systems uh it was actually a grocery store scan system And another company that was there was working on a system for the TVA, Tennessee Valley Authority. That's when all, that's when all of the automation really got started was in, in that timeframe. And so, They basically, you know, I'm sure that the physicists, I was working with physicists and mathematicians, but I am not a physicist or a mathematician. They hired me to write these little reports in a computer language that they developed themselves just to produce manager reports for the grocery store. But that was the beginning of being able to transmit data across phone line. Well, it wasn't really the beginning. I saw my first demonstration of transmitting data over a phone line in about nineteen sixty four. My mother worked for a bank and I went in to her work. And her boss was there, and he explained the process to me, how they ran the key punch cards through this card sorter, and then they put them on a hard drive and then transmitted the file to Salt Lake City, where the main branch was. And so to me, computer automation was not a big deal. But I didn't know that. I just knew that that's what I wanted to do for a living, was to be able to work with that process. And so that's what I grew up and did. But that was the early days of automation. Apparently these physicists just saw all kinds of opportunities to automate everything. And so that's when, um, nineteen seventy-four was when the idea was put forward for the Department of Energy and, and he did do it, but it was effective in nineteen seventy-seven. Really? Wow. There's so many things that happened in the seventies that seemed to be all totally interconnected affecting us now. And, and the connections really weren't made until recently by most of us that there was a timeframe in there where all sorts of things basically, but this was, if this was like a, a, you know, a hockey game right now, it was a setup for the person to, to, you know, to put the puck in the net. Seems like it. And then everybody since then has been working, as you said, to implement them. But when you go back to the early seventies, there were just crazy amounts of foundational changes made. Yeah. Well, that's the timeframe when the Environmental Protection Agency was established. That legislation I guess it was written by a guy named Linton Caldwell, who was a professor at some college. But it's very simple. It's kind of like a framework organization for the Environmental Protection Agency. And they ostensibly did that for the. Nineteen seventy two conference UN conference on human Human Settlements, I think it was. And of course, that was organized by Maurice Strong. And Maurice Strong actually worked for David Rockefeller or David Rockefeller put him in position at some point. So you can take this all back and put on the head of David Rockefeller. There are so many things that he did. When you go back to these key players on the world stage, they're all connected, every one of them. Yeah, and I think I'll try to put those things together. I mean, I've written about Club of Rome. My problem at the moment is, of course, memory of the details, but I have it documented. And so, but anyway, that, uh, nineteen seventy four is a big year because that was the year of the oil crisis. You know, I, I remember that part really well because I had a four year old and a Volkswagen and I, had to sit in gas lines. Yeah, I actually remember sitting in those gas lines with my mom driving the car. I remember that. Yeah, well, I remember it well because it's hard to keep a four-year-old entertained in a Volkswagen for several hours while you're sitting waiting to get gas and you have no choice. I think that people don't realize how bad it was. They can't relate to what happened across America during that time because we've never seen anything even remotely close to that happening at the pumps. We still talk about inconveniences that we have and such, but during that time, the gas lines were miles. They were miles to get into a gas station at times to get to fill up your car. Yeah. Yeah. It was a very difficult time. There was also high inflation at that time. Oh, it was in the twenty percent, wasn't it? Pardon me? We had like twenty percent inflation at that time, didn't we? Yeah. Well, I don't know if it was twenty percent, but I do know it was very high. And they had also brought women into the workforce. Now, prior to the early seventies, women basically didn't work. And it was difficult to get jobs as women, except for secretarial and things like that. So there was a glass ceiling that kept women really out of the workforce. Women couldn't even get credit on their own. I wanted to open a credit account at a woman's clothing store and I had to get my husband's signature on it. This is something that's a great thing to talk about because I had the same thing when I first got in business that I, it still was, it still was a problem where I had somebody to bank, look at me, looked at what I needed to do to get a loan and looked right at me and said, if you were a guy, I'd give you this loan. Straight to my face, straight up. So, you know, did I get angry about it? No, I didn't get angry. I'm like, you're going to really regret that decision. And I'm sure they did. Then years later, of course, they want my business. And I'm like, you know, if you were a guy, I'd probably come here and give you business. Oh, wow. No, I just, I say, you know, you got to be a smart aleck when they do stupid things. You know, don't let it get to you. Just make your plan to get back at them just by outperforming them. Don't let their stupidity get to you on any level. That's the reaction that people have. They go, boo-hoo, they hurt my feelings. No, they're just being stupid. Why would you take this on yourself? Just make them regret their poor decisions. Yeah. Yeah. Well, and the field that I entered into, you know, well, I started out as a key punch operator, but then I saw one of those advertisements that they were playing on TV. You too can join the exciting and wonderful world of data processing. So. I wanted to go to that school to learn computer programming. And I had a choice of either going to San Francisco or there was a new school in Santa Clara. So I went to the school in Santa Clara because I did not want to commute to San Francisco. But so that's where I got my training as a programmer. and my first jobs, and then, you know, I was off from there just, you know, living life. And I was thinking the other day, if what you do, if you love what you do for a living, then you'll never work a day in your life. You know, and I thought many times, It's a good thing these people don't know that I love programming. I love systems analysis because they charge me to do it rather than paying me. That's funny. The things that I've seen in technology, honestly, lately have been a very much decline in actual tech abilities. The core programmers that started out programming that knew the basics are not the same caliber that are being turned out by the colleges now. Yeah, well, the language is, the whole business has changed. I was like the first generation of a non-physicist, non-mathematician. And so I saw the people who, you know, and I met people who were like the first in the business and they were physicists, I mean. And the language that they used was like the basic machine language. I was first generation as a business programmer using the language called COBOL. And so I didn't need to, I just needed basic math because I just worked on business applications. And, you know, for most businesses, the most mathematical they get is, you know, maybe doing percentages or, you know, things like that. Normal things that anybody can do or that anybody used to be able to do. But anyway, it was during the Carter administration when the Department of Energy was defined and the Department of Education. And I never put those two things together. The Department of Education, I think, was established because of the coming age of automations. And when you go back in history, you know, when business was in the early days, people didn't have to know anything. They basically were just like human machines on an assembly line. Well, when they reached the age of automation, that changed and people needed a higher level of education. And so it's hard, you know, at this point in the year we're in, uh, twenty, twenty-five, it's hard to look back, you know, for people that weren't there to understand that this was the beginning of automation. And so, you know, people, businesses were not They had people doing paperwork. And anyway, now Jimmy Carter, he had been a farmer, but he had also been in the Navy. You know, he was an officer in the Navy. But he was, I guess, recruited by Zbigniew Brzezinski. Zbigniew Brzezinski and David Rockefeller started the Trilateral Commission. And Jimmy Carter joined the Trilateral Commission. And the Trilateral Commission was, I guess, Europe, Japan, and the United States is what they were looking at. And so ZBIG was the technocrat of the three. And Jimmy Carter either was a technocrat or he understood the technocracy, you know, building, automating processes in the country. And so Anyway, going back to what I'm doing, I was trying to get into what I was writing. I haven't published it yet, but I'm having machine problems. My system is getting throttled. I don't know if it's the communications or... Well, I think they're messing with all of us in a way. It's been amazing because we've done a bunch of like server upgrades and that sort of thing. We've had power upgrades around our stuff. And so we're seeing a lot of craziness in that arena. Yeah, Darren Weeks and I had a problem on Saturday. I do a program with Darren Weeks. It's called Govern America. And both of us were having problems with the internet. We finally gave up on the program. We had to go to the backup system and replay a program because we couldn't stay on air. We kept getting throttled. To that point, I think it's very important for everyone to back up your data offline because, and I think it's important to keep several backups of your data because if your data gets corrupted or they throw things into it to either implicate you or such, you can have the original data files to say, no, no, no, no, no. This came in at this time. I have no idea how this happened here. And we've already proven that that they can hijack pretty much any electronic device that you have. Place data, change data, get out. You'll never see how they got in and got out again, which is kind of crazy when you think about our election cycles because they can get in, they can change data, and you will never see them come in through the back door or leave any footprints on the inside of the machines. That includes your phones, your computers. and our electronic voting machines, completely and totally unreliable. Yeah. Well, what goes down the line of a phone line or, you know, the phone, it's a signal, and they just hack into the signal. They can hear anything going on. Yeah. When they tried to implement the smart meters in my area, I fought it. There was another lady and I, we both fought it. We're the only ones in the state, as far as I know, who opposed the mandatory installation of smart meters. But I did quite a lot of research on the smart meters and through the smart meters, they can actually control devices in your homes. The new appliances, and I mean your refrigerator, your washer, your dryer. Really? Your air conditioner. Yeah, they all have technology in them to allow them to be remote controlled. I didn't know that they did it through the smart meters. I knew that they had control, but I didn't know that that's where it was the hack point. Well, that is the hack point for the electric utility company. I don't know about the voting machines, but it wouldn't surprise me at all if that were the case. That's pretty interesting. Yeah, the surveillance state that we're under right now is a clear constitutional violation. And when you look at the corporations and their complicity, Really, they're the driving force right now. Anytime somebody says public-private partnerships, I'm like, I'm so done with them right then and there. Because that means that they are part of the theft of the nation that's going on. What do you think about... I'm going to pull something up here that I got sent this morning, which is very interesting. Let's see. We have both... Hang on a minute. Both... Not finding the link. Just a minute. I'll get there. Just might take a minute. Be patient. Be patient. Trying to manage a crisis as well as and it's going better right now. So that's good. Thank you for my team, my response team, which is doing a great job. So the stock market markets, stock markets all down futures after tariff supply. Canada and Mexico face actual collapse. What do you think about the tariffing that's going on? Canada and Mexico say they will retaliate. Perhaps they will. Maybe not. But I think probably he's going to, President Trump is going to bring them all to heel here. The application of tariffs on Saturday, February one by President Trump against Canada, Mexico and China are affecting stock markets. All indices are down in late Sunday evening trading. Oh, let's see. That's it in a nutshell. Investors seem to be shocked that President Trump made good on his promise to implement tariffs. They shouldn't be shocked. He's not typically a phony politician. He actually does what he says he's going to do. Yay, President Trump. And we all like very excited to see a politician. He's not a politician. He's a He's just a person, which is what he should be, you know, not just a person. He's a great person. But, you know, it's just kind of interesting to see how this. I probably, let's see, there's some more. Worst, many employees in that U.S. federal government thought they ran the country and the president was just someone passing through. That idea was dealt a quick death blow. Assistant U.S. attorneys fired. Five out of six executive assistant FBI directors fired. National Labor Relations Board members fired. Twenty-six out of fifty-three FBI special agents in charge fired. Fifty-one retired intel officials who misused their reputations to involve themselves politically. Security clearances revoked and ability to enter secure facilities unescorted revoked. DEI ripped out at the root, Green New Deal over, Paris Climate Accord canceled for USA, and the list just keeps going on. I got to tell you, I'm kind of excited about all of this change going on and just want to thank not only President Trump, but the good guys that are working behind the scenes to make sure that this happens. No one does it alone. No matter what organization you're in, if you're a business owner, You don't do it alone, though. You might get top billing on things. It's your team that actually carries this through. It's in a coordinated effort. And you're talking about the United States of America. This is a huge, huge organization. And he is shredding this. I talked about this morning. Let me pull this up, too. I was talking about on my TikTok account. I think this is just Wonderful. The unitary executive theory, which he appears to be restoring. Are you familiar with that? Well, yes, I've heard of the unitary executive, and I know around two thousand eight or nine, the American Bar Association was very concerned about the concept of a unitary executive. They're all violating the Constitution right there. It's not just titles of nobility, but when you read the Constitution, and they're running the show here, and honestly, it's just a private membership association. It's not a license to practice law, but they're running things, so they should be scared. I hope he goes after the bar next. They transferred so much authority to the presidency because of these trade agreements. that aren't really trade agreements. What they are is like merger agreements. In order to create a global system of regulation and government under the UN system. They're basically turning the populations of all countries into their little slaves and putting us in those fifteen minute cities is just part of it. I was talking to a guy in India the other day. He works in technology field and he's so depressed he can't even hardly talk. But he really highlighted the technology slaves going on in India. President Trump put off all aid to South Africa. Brilliant move needed to be done because they're basically money. The country has been money laundering, the politicians have, to all of these nations across the world. We're getting no benefit of it whatsoever. But neither are the people of those nations because it's skimming right past their intended use and going to the kickbacks into this global crime syndicate. Anyhow, the technology slaves in India and such, if you really look into that, it's horrific. If people have not looked into what was actually happening in South Africa with the war on the Boers there, shocking beyond all belief at what the brutal killings and our tax dollars going to this country, they had to be cut. They should have been cut because there we're literally paying for the destruction and the murder of human beings. It was institutionalized in South Africa to target a group of people based on skin color to do the land grabs. And then in, in, encouraging the population to go in and just kill them randomly. I could tell you some stories. I had a friend that was posting all of this stuff for the war on the Boers in South Africa. And I got to say, bravo, President Trump. This needed to be done a long time ago. One of the most horrific killings that I heard was a man and his wife and his two-year-old child. And basically, what they did is they nailed the dad. They nailed him to a table. And then they they poked his eyes out. So they blinded him so he couldn't see. He could just hear the screams of his wife and his two year old that they basically they basically raped. They tortured. They murdered. And he had to sit there and listen to this while, you know, with his eyes poked out on the table. I mean, some of the brutality. that's been not only allowed to go on through that, through Venezuela, through Mexico, through the gang wars that have gone on, through this absolute brutality that no one wanted to talk about. And we've been, our politicians have been funding this. Every single one of them needs to be absolutely hauled up. And I'm not going to say it here, but you all know what I'm thinking here. When they encourage and pay for and institutionalize this type of behavior, these people are beasts. And it's part of the beast system. So I just want to say bravo to President Trump for defunding South Africa. This needed to be happening a long time ago. I'm waiting for it to go further. And where I think it needs to go next, and I'm going to say it, save Israel for last, any of these organizations and nation states that have been participating in this behavior. There was a child shot about a week ago by the IDF, an IDF sniper. He was between twelve and fourteen years old. They shot him in the back and left him for as he was coming out of school. They shot him. He was shot in the back by IDF soldiers and left for dead. Yeah. Well, of people, none of them, if they commit evil, if they commit crimes against humanity, it's time. I saw a story on YouTube that the Hamas people in Somalia, they built a cave network that they thought was going to protect them. I guess they don't know that the United States has ground-penetrating radar. But Trump bombed their tunnel and killed them. So I'm with you. I appreciate killing monsters. I'm all for it. I think they have to be hauled in for justice. If they are committing crimes against humanity, I don't care what label that they have. Because we've got to know right now that this whole global crime syndicate that's gone on, their method is infiltration. they don't come in and take over that's what the problem was that we had on the border they come in through infiltration infiltration of our government there you go dual citizenship right there and I'm going to say all of you I don't care what country you're in you should not be holding an office in the united states of america because you can't serve two masters and they've been grifting off the united states and the in the u.s taxpayer for years to enrich their own countries That little scheme needs to be chopped down right now and ripped out by the roots. Well, you know what? It's the United States State Department and the CIA, USAID, because they were propagating worldwide this system of control via energy. Did you see what President Trump did to USAID? No, I didn't. Chop them off, too, the aid. Hallelujah. The aid that's been going on across the world, this is nothing more than money laundering. There is no aid going out to these people. When you look at the amount of rapes committed by people within the U.S. or what's happening to children, monsters go where children are. That's it. There's a friend that I have here in Michigan. She was raped the first time at the age of ten. By the time she was eighteen, she told me it was the Grand Rapids Police Department that was passing her around for unsavory activities and then blaming her for it. But she said it was the police that were passing her around. And also, she clearly said any organization that says that they're there to help with human trafficking is Be careful because the monsters are going to go where the victims are and they're going to further the problem. Any place that says that they're helping women or or, you know, people that are being human trafficked, we got to be suspect. Poster child for that was McCain. He set up a fund within the University of Arizona, and I believe they brought ten million dollars in to stop human trafficking. I think they only paid out like five hundred thousand. And I'm going to tell you right now, I think this needs to be ripped right out by the roots and burned on the fires of of this was a really bad idea. And nobody was watching. Nobody was asking questions. But you know what? We are now. And we have a president in place who is absolutely not going to negotiate with bad behavior, with terrorists, domestic terrorists, inside or outside, or any threats, domestic, foreign or domestic. And I think it's glorious. I really do. We're in a glorious time to be alive. Yeah. Well, that's how this whole system has been able to be built. Because under this heading of sustainable development, and rebuilding our country in a sustainable model, members of Congress have been able to feed like hogs at the trough. Absolutely. And they changed things in such a way that the corporations can build PACs, and the PACs can I believe it's virtually unlimited how much a PAC can donate to a candidacy. Well, and look at the parties, too. So when I look at what happened to the twenty twenty two governor's race, I believe the Republican Party gave James Craig's campaign twenty million dollars. That's that's what I heard. And then not only not only that, but there his political consultant took off with, you know, got his paid his percentage, which I believe was twenty percent. And then all of a sudden he got abandoned and they put their new little star up there, Tudor Dixon, who was also part of the information gathering. She was a globalist put up by DeVos, the globalist, funded her until she won the primary. And as soon as she won the primary, they cut it off because they wanted Whitmer back in. This is all about creating confusion so people can't get a lock on actually what's happening and keeping everybody in the go sports team, go Republican, Democrat, uniparty nonsense. Yeah. Well, it has been one big psychological operation on the American people. Absolutely. And so, yeah, they basically bought our Congress lock, stock and barrel. And that's why nothing ever changes. None of them came out against any of this stuff at all. And I mean, when you look at the few people who actually got in there and said, hold the phone, we're done with this, and started employing lawfare against them, which needed to happen, doing something, and not just saying, okay, I'm not going to sign this one. You know, they're going, I'm not going to sign this one. Will you sign that one? Okay, blah, blah. They're talking back. back and forth, but nothing ever gets done because I believe they're making back room deals. Yeah. I heard Steny Hoyer say one time, he said, I'll be for you or against you, whichever helps you more. So it's almost like a conspiracy of our elected representatives to loot people. us as taxpayers, but also to loot our country. That's the only way they get in. They get vetted at the lower levels, just like the masons do. Anybody that's a third degree mason or lower has no idea what's going on up the chain. They keep them out because that's the vetting point right there. If you don't capitulate, if they can't control you, if you will give your allegiance to these organizations rather than to God Almighty, what's right before God good over evil, the United States of America over the political parties and the Constitution, on and on, then you don't progress to the next level. You do not pass go. You do not collect two hundred dollars. You don't do anything. They'll wage warfare against you and try to silence you like they did me. I saw it firsthand, but I'm just too bullheaded and bullheaded to stop. yeah and yeah it's a mess and what I hope that the trump administration does is examine the incentive structures because for all the bad stuff that's going on that's where the incentives are the the criminality is incentivized and they have to stop that they have to bring back punishment for doing criminal things. And because the government is doing criminal things, They weaponized the government against people that are trying to stop it. Absolutely. Look at what they did with HHS during the COVID lockdowns here in Michigan. They weaponized health and human services, the health department, against people. They use it. And then they tried to get the businesses were being required to be their enforcement arm. Well, that didn't work so good. for them and with some of us, because some of us were like, go ahead and arrest me now because I'm not going to comply. And you're, you're going to have to get this thing figured out when you stood up to them during the COVID lockdowns and mandates. And you just said, no, not going to do it. Then they kind of were like, okay, I guess we'll, we'll just go away now. Yeah. Well, when they were considering the mask mandate in I, I, I guess it's, It was the County Public Health Organization. I went down and testified. And the doctor is the one who leads that commission. And I reminded him of the Nuremberg trials, of what they did to doctors in Nazi Germany that participated in the experimentation on human beings. and uh so that's that's where we got the nuremberg code um a crime against humanity to experiment on people I'm I'm okay with going back to that I think we need to do the nuremberg two point oh on on these people that have participated in this nonsense and and protect the people. And I got to tell you, I wish I didn't have this bias, but I do. Whenever I see somebody who is really entrenched in a political activity, no matter what it is, my first reaction is like this going, you got a long road to get past my suspicion at this point in time because of the complicity within the political realm And I know there's a lot of good people that are involved, but I still sit back and I go, okay, are we complicit? Or are we actually, do we have the guts to do what needs to be done? And that means rip out some of these situations that need to go away. And I hate to say it, but I'm really working on my bias right now. And I know there's a lot of good people out there. And after a while, you kind of get them figured out. But I think everybody needs to ask some bigger questions on why people are involved. Is it for self-interest or is it because they really do care? And I got to tell you, my next guest, Jean Zott, who's going to be on, is incredible. is an example of somebody that I've seen brutally attacked, which makes me believe in, you know, that's one of the things I look for. Somebody's brutally attacked. I'm like, okay, this person's probably legit. General Flynn was, you know, there's, there's so many people that have been, that they're afraid of. And either, either when I even look at some of President Trump's appointments, which I look at their backgrounds and go, okay, I'm going to have to breathe through this one to see how this actually turns out. But the reality is, is sometimes I think you can get some leverage over bad behavior if you have people on the inside and say, we've got you controlled here. So now you're going to jump to the tune of, of restoring this nation, which I think that's not a bad activity. We had somebody that worked for us years ago who absolutely would have gone to jail for life had we pressed charges on what was going on there. And we just said, you know what? I think maybe we can make some better choices here if we are given a chance. However, if you step out of line, I can tell you that what's going to happen is probably not good things. And so we gave this person a chance to redeem themselves. And I think that there are powers, the powers that be have blackmailed people. They've done terrible things to people. And that's a worthwhile process to go through to see if the person was hijacked, blackmailed, whatever. You know, do you give them a way out if there's if there's any inkling that they really were compromised in horrible ways because it's happened over and over again? Well, you know, that's why I do what I do, because if you don't understand what you're involved in, A lot of people don't. Most people don't. Most people have no idea that they have literally broken the law by participating in these organizations. I think PACs need to be absolutely abolished. I totally agree. They're money laundering organizations for dark money and special interests, and they're buying our elections. I went to a PAC money. I was asked to be involved in a PAC. And I'm like, unless there's a really good reason here, I kind of been speaking out about, you know, I'm like, I don't see how I could possibly be involved in this because I believe that they are unconstitutional. They've just split them in, you know, through. Well, if you look at the tools there are today, it's like the guy you mentioned that was given a twenty million dollar donation. Yes. Why does he need twenty million dollars in this day and age? By the Republican Party, I will add to it. He can do his campaign speeches on the Internet and. He can go to the biggest cities in his area and give talks, give his positions. He can debate. Now, how much money does all that cost? Twenty million dollars is a heck of a lot of money. They're in the hundreds of millions of dollars for this nonsense. And that absolutely cuts out the average everyday person unless they make the cut from these puppet masters who are pulling the levers. I have a huge problem with this. It's treason. Yeah. Well, I think it was Montana or Wyoming had a law saying that only people who vote can contribute to a candidate's campaign fund. I love that. They had to change their law. They had to eliminate that law. Well, because they've got this thing so messed up in the state of Michigan, we may end up having to use the tools of our enemies to take things back to destroy them. That's what you do when you're in a war. You use every tool that's at your disposal that you can. That doesn't break the law, but you use the tools against them. in order to take them down and burn this thing into a little black pile of smoldering ashes, unrecognizable for what it was and their crimes against the United States. Well, Vicki, I've got my next guests that are coming in. I love you. You are amazing. Tell everybody how they can follow you. And I'm going to bring in Gene Zott and Sheila Colquhoun in a minute. We're going to talk about corruption in Michigan. If you want to stay around, you can. Or if you want to bug out, that's okay, too. Yeah, I'll bug out and probably listen online so I can keep working on what I'm working on. But I really appreciate you having me on. I was able to unload a lot of stuff today and I thank you for that. Well, I love you as a person and just a friend and such. And as a patriot, I cannot... The way you've got your stuff organized is absolutely incredible to me. First time I met you, I literally sat there... Just absolutely in awe because I'm sick of people talking. And they don't do anything. They sit there and they talk. You literally have got this stuff all organized in a way that it's actually evidence against you. these people. And you know what, if you need, if they, if anything ever happens to your research, we should talk about this. I'll, I'll, I'll make sure that you stay out because I have a tech company and I've, we know how to beat them at this, at their little, their little game of subversion. So, and we can, we can absolutely make, make that happen. They start messing with you in any way, shape or form. And we're just going to figure this out and give them another little warning shot against, you know, over the bow here. Don't mess with Vicki because she's got friends that can make it work in ways that you probably can't attack. So there we go. Well, I really appreciate that. Thank you and have a great day. Yeah, you too. Okay. I'll be back in thirty seconds here with Jean and Sheila talking about Michigan corruption. And this is going to be great. Good morning, ladies. How are you? Good morning. Good. How are you? Good. Welcome to Brandenburg News Network. It is the third day of February twenty twenty five. And I want to welcome everybody to our second segment of our show today. I'm so excited to have you ladies on today. Nice to be back. Thank you for letting us talk about what happened last week. Well, you know what? We're all on the same team here. And, you know, we're all on the same team. And I think that this is critical, absolutely critical to get people on and allow them to have their voices where they've been censored in so many other places. And so I'm your girl. If you guys are censored, we're going to put you out there and let you talk. How's that? Great. So Sheila called me on Friday and we were talking about the convention. We had the Macomb County Convention last Thursday night. So it was the first time that I, as a delegate, was at a convention. So I'm very new to this whole experience. I did go last year. As a volunteer, so I checked people in and I stayed. I didn't stay till three o'clock in the morning last year, but this time I stayed till the very end. And Sheila was running for chair. And so a lot of different things happen. But first, I just want to share something with you. This is Gus Gannum's, the new Macomb County GOP volunteer. He's the new chairman for the Macomb County GOP. And in his letter, he was very encouraging. This is called a convention. Just a couple lines. Serving in this role is a privilege and comes with the responsibility to unite our party. Unity is not just a lofty ideal. It's the foundation upon which our success depends. And then finally, but in order to succeed in this mission, we need unity. which I think, and I don't want to speak for Sheila, but I think people went in there with the hope and the prayers that we would have unity that night. And so there were some things that happened right off the get-go that happened. For example, When we were all checking in, we all, ninth and tenth district, all had the same colored credentials, which became an issue later on because we couldn't tell who was from the ninth and who was from the tenth. And we were trying to make sure we only had people from the tenth in our room. Dawn, people called for a roll call to see if the delegates that checked in were actually in the room. They did not want to do that. They said it took too much time. But I will explain to you later on, we should have done that. What happened was, and I'll give you the floor in a second, Sheila, because I'll let you talk about the issues. Because Sheila's been educating delegates, so she knows much more about the process than I do. But when we did, I was a teller. And when they were doing the vote for who is going to be the chairman, the numbers came out, we had more votes than we had credentialed delegates. So. Okay. And I was counting with a woman that was from the, and I hate to call it the other side because we want to be one group, but there was the Fortin group and then there was the other side. And I was counting with somebody from the other side and our numbers matched. And that was the same that was going on the other side of the room. Their numbers matched. So it wasn't like I was saying, My count's a hundred and she would say, no, mine is a hundred and ten. That's not what was happening. Our counts matched, but when we entered the totals, they were greater than the credentialed delegates, which it's not supposed to happen. So what happened at that point? Did they call a full stop and make it right? Well, they wanted to do, we decided to do a roll call vote and those numbers were greater than the credentialed delegates too. Don Beatty stepped up and she was doing the roll call but she didn't she was just calling everybody on the list not knowing who was actually there and who wasn't and in the end we had more votes so I'll let Sheila step in because she has more information on other things that happened that were not exactly right now I do have to say it ended at eleven and the people that I've talked to have been pretty happy with the slate. Um, and I think everybody that wants to go to convention is going, but Sheila, I will defer to you now. Good morning. Hi, glad you're here today. Thank you. Thanks for having us. So, um, the convention really started off on the wrong flight. Um, actually even before that, because we never got an agenda. In the beginning of the meeting, like right before the meeting, when you check in, generally you get an agenda and generally you get the rules. Well, nobody got the rules from Gus or any, you know, they weren't out there and available for people to see. We did get the rules texted to us. A few of us that are in with a person that's helping, I'm not going to release the name, but she's kind of helping us. She sent us a text of the rules. So the rules were already done before the convention. So to believe that there was a rules committee and that they have to give a rules report is a bunch of you who rules. So they had the rules already done before the convention even started. And it was given to the delegates to review and such and debate. Absolutely. According to Robert's rules, the delegates are supposed to get the rules and have at least ten minutes to review them. Okay. Well, You know, when it came time for the rules report to give the rules, they just read the rules, which is total BS. But so that started off the convention on the wrong foot before it even started. Okay. Okay. So then the first order of business should be, according to MCL, one, six, eight, six, two, two. The first order of business should be to elect a permanent chair of the convention. That's according to MCL. That was not done. They went through, I don't have the agenda in front of me, but they went through other things. And approving the agenda was ahead of the permanent chair vote. Approving the rules was ahead of the chair vote. And then when it actually came time to, I'm sorry, before it came time to do the permanent chair vote, a gentleman stood up and said, I motion that we change the rule for electing the permanent chair from a roll call vote to a to a standing credential vote. OK, well, I mean, because we all know standing credential vote is totally accurate all the time, has no fraud whatsoever. Right. Like we know that. Right. Right. And to add on to this, at our very last convention in November, there was a certain delegate, I will not name, but she is on their side, and stood up and was going to do a motion that there be a roll call vote. When Mark Fortin actually told her that we already were going to do a roll call vote, she rescinded it. So she, in fact, wanted a roll call vote when Mark was the chair, but not when Gus was the chair. Like, you can't make up this stuff, right? Right. So, so, so then they did a, so on that vote, they had everybody say a or nay on that vote. Okay. Okay. Well, you couldn't tell from the room what the actual decision was. But of course we heard, I think Gus said that the eyes have it. And we're like, no division, division, division, division. I mean, this is what teaching precinct delegates to do where it helps, right? So we stood up and we yelled division because obviously you couldn't tell. So we needed the room separated. Now, I have to do a correction to my teaching. It's a slight correction. So when you yell division, they actually can call for us to stand up and count us. We don't necessarily have to divide the room. However, I think dividing the room, and in fact, somebody recommended that during the tenth permanent chair thing, I think dividing the room helps that count. It makes it more organized and you can actually see the difference. So, so I just wanted to make that correction. So then we divided the room and in fact, the eyes did have it. They had counted more people than, I mean, they had counted all the people and the eyes had it. Okay. But the fact is, is during that it's a roll call vote. Okay. Um, and they tried to change it. I did do a point of order because we hadn't even heard the rules yet. And they just, they, they, they just basically gaveled us through. Um, I, I've got it. Can I, can I throw something out there? Yeah. Okay, I believe it was Linda Torp that was changing the roll call thing. Is that correct? At the November? Yeah, I think that this one. And then I was also told there are lots of reports that Stan Grout was calling people out to come to his side. Is that correct? Yes, he was escorting people over to the side of the room that he wanted them to be on. This is Brandenburg. You can't make it up. This is Brandenburg. Don't give a crap what anybody thinks about me. We're going to put the actual truth out there. And it didn't come from these ladies. You know, it's like I've got friends and such everywhere that let me know exactly what's happening. And when he invited you to come to the side of the room, it was like he was inviting you over to a party. Oh, come on over here. It was like a playground kind of thing. Come on over here. It was just like... It was good to see. It was good to see because he was nervous. I think he was nervous because he knows that we're not messing around anymore as delegates. And really, the point of a convention, the point of a meeting is not to disenfranchise the people that are in the meeting, but to hold the meeting in an organized way. fashion and that is what I'm trying to teach delegates and what they're seeing is that in fact doesn't happen and we actually are being railroaded in most of these conventions. Now, I will say that in order for us to have any type of voice, we do need more delegates to come to these county conventions because we didn't have enough people on our side on that particular vote to be able to make a difference. so like a cartel when you get these special interests in there to hold power so that they can overstep the will of the people. Then the next question I always have is why the people that stand with a power structure and the powers that be instead of, you know, let's vote with our constituents instead of voting with these, these people that are trying to preserve power. And you can see what's happening when you've got a clerk counting the votes that they've got a conflict of interest in the, in the election itself. I'm like, this is incredible, but you know what? It damns the people standing with them as complicit with them. And so I think there's one of those things that probably would be an important thing to just kind of lay all the, lay all the names out there at some point in time, because people need to know what's really going on. And unfortunately we, What I'm seeing across the board is that there's too few people picking who they allow on the ballot. That's the first point of rigging this. So to your point that more people need to be there, it's like, guys, we got to get better at this. Well, and that's why I've been trying to educate delegates because they're the ones with the power of the vote, not the chair, even though the chair that night really, he screwed up a lot of the votes. In fact, he disenfranchised hardworking Republicans because he felt that his comment was all that was needed in order to not take a vote. Um, so he, well, I can go through that if you want. And, and, and this is all on video. So I'm not, I'm not lying about anything. Oh, I would never think you were. I'm, I'm, I'm just like, I know you're not, but I'm saying anybody watching this, they, I have a three hour video that was recorded and like it shares everything that is factual. Um, So when so according to state party rules, the hardworking Republicans had to be voted on by the delegation. OK, that never happened, even though there was a motion put on the floor by Melissa Pellis, who actually is the secretary on the executive committee, which is so funny. So she put a motion on the floor. to have the hardworking Republicans acknowledged on the slate. It was motioned, it was seconded, and then there was debate. Gus kept the microphone and said, well, I think that hardworking Republicans disenfranchise the delegates. because why should the elected delegates be put down underneath hardworking Republicans or something to that effect. Then someone stood up and said, we need to call the question. Well, they called the question of the rules because this motion for the hardworking Republicans was an added rule. Melissa was trying to add it to the rules. OK, so he the gentleman that stood up said called the question. Gus never called the question for hardworking Republicans. So it was literally never voted on. They called the question for the rules. And I have video of it. I can prove it. And we were confused at first thinking that they didn't actually approve the rules. But the rules were approved. I mean, if you want to be technical, that vote could have been for the hardworking Republicans, you know, but they did not vote for the hardworking Republicans at all. They didn't take that vote. And so they screwed that up. But at the end of the stupid convention, Gus is like, okay, anybody else that wants to, because our slates weren't full. Our alternate slates were not full. Yeah. And so they were saying, anybody that wants to be acknowledged as a hardworking Republican, come inside. And you know what's really sad is how can you be a hardworking Republican if you just show up once a year? I mean, honestly, it's kind of crazy. I mean, those of us who show up every single day who actually are Republicans because we believe in the Republican form of government, who basically were kicked off the Republican Party by Republicans and on and on because it's this power structure there, right? But these people that were hardworking, working Republicans, these are actually people that work very, very hard. Right. But I guess my point is that there's a comment in the chat, which I think is funny, and I'm going to bring it up. And I am going to say this because I've seen the nonsense within the party and the debasing of people like you guys who actually work hard for this in order to maintain the power structure. So get this. The precinct delegates need to force a hand count at state convention later this month. The machines are rigged. The rig is in. And then here's another one. Michonne Maddock has been chosen to win. Why? She is going to run John James for governor in twenty twenty six. He's already bought a house in Lansing, heard it through the grapevine. This is called. This is called this is the swamp, guys. This is the frickin swamp. They had a time like crazy. And let's see. I think I think this is going to get into a much, much bigger thing. bigger deal here. The rig is already in for this, guys. Be prepared for this. Thank you, Curtis, for your comments. I appreciate that. The thing about the hardworking Republicans is the fact that the state party actually put it into their rules for convention and it's supposed to be voted on by the body. That is how a convention runs. You allow the delegates to dictate what they want in the convention and what they don't want. And it was not even voted on, all because Gus felt that it really shouldn't, you know, his son is a Republican and he works hard, but, you know, he shouldn't be stepping in front of another delegate. Well, it's not your decision to dictate, chair. It's not. He doesn't get to dictate what happens in a convention. It's the delegates that get to do that. So is Gus a gratite? Yes, I believe so. I think I did talk to him, though, when the county commissioner position was open for District one, I did call him when I was applying for that position. And he was very nice when I talked to him. I didn't feel like I mean, he his letter. People can be nice and turn around and do things wrong. I'm not saying he's not nice. I'm saying that he's not doing things properly. Sheila, I want to give him some grace. I think he's so new to it. He said he's been doing it for twenty years. He said in the meeting, I've been doing this twenty years. So I would love to give him grace. I think he's a nice man. I don't know if he wants to do the right thing, but in that meeting, there were certain things he did not do that were right. And that's just fact. It's just fact. And I think that they've gotten away with so much over the last, what, decades? Yeah. And the delegates haven't been educated about Robert's rules of order, about how they're supposed to handle themselves in a meeting, what's supposed to happen in a meeting. And I think that now that they know, now that the delegates know, they're like, we're being screwed here. We're literally being screwed at these conventions. Now, I want to go into the Tenth District meeting if we can, Donna, because that was a very big thing because I was running for permanent chair of that. And I'm not a sore loser. I don't care. If Ben won legitimately, Ben won. I'm not a sore loser. However, the credential committee gave a report and during that report, it said a hundred and seventy eight tenth district people were credentialed. But we had we had created an agenda for District ten to be able to do a roll call check in. And I believe that every time you have a convention and if you have a district part of your convention, there should definitely be a roll call check-in for that district meeting. Because how do you know that people aren't in there from a different district? And how do you know that people didn't get credentials handed to them for other people? Like, you need to, like, these are votes. These are important votes. And we do, at state convention, For every vote, you have to show your credential and you have to show your license for every single vote. Why are we not doing that at the county convention? We should. We should. Well, all politics should be stronger at the county, not the state. I mean, it's local action equals national impact. It's got to come from the people, not from above. And that's a big problem that people have to switch. Everything's upside down. The counties have to be strong and they tell the state what's happening, not taking orders from them or these mini cartels that I actually see. I actually see them as cartels when they're running a when they're running things like what I've seen in in Macomb County. They're running like a cartel for self-interest is what it appears to me. So, you know, from the top down type of thing and the dividing the room up, like what I heard was happening at one point in time to join the party, you know, be included. Don't be ostracized. We have a big problem because it's not coming from people like, you know, and and hardworking, you know, Americans or Republicans. Did did Gus, in fact, say that there would be no hardworking Republicans? uh republicans he did not say there would be no he was against hard-working republicans and he and during debate he stated his stance on it and then someone stood up and said call the question well what you're supposed to do is you're actually supposed to call the question which was are we going to allow hard-working republicans to be delegates and they never took that vote Can you define the hardworking Republicans for everybody right now? What does that actually mean in the terms of McComb politics and et cetera? So basically you have to just acknowledge that you are a hardworking Republican. And what that means is you, you do stuff like, I mean, you could actually have someone back there that says they're a hardworking Republican. It doesn't do anything and they can acknowledge they want to be a hardworking Republican. But I think of hardworking Republicans as people who, who were there, who actually, I mean, they were there stuffing bags every week. Sheila runs the office, not me, but this other lady. I mean, these people work hard all the time. And so they should have been allowed But the whole point of it is that it was in the state party rules. It was in the state party rules that the body is the one that votes on it. The chair does not get to dictate. And that's what we have to change. We have to change this mentality that the chair dictates what happens in the meeting. He doesn't. Chair is a facilitator. Sheila, remember at one point where Eric Castiglia got up there and he just took the microphone and started talking about how things were going to go. And it was like, wait, what's going on with Eric? So the rules, the state party rules. Now, mind you, we have spent the last month learning Robert's rules. We've went through the state party rules. We've done our due diligence. Um, Ben Joseph called me the night before asking for slates and like, we can go into that whole thing, but I asked him, I said, did you go through the state party rules? And he said, no, like, but he's going to run for permanent chair and he, and he's not following the rules or he's not understanding the rules. But anyways, we went through the state party rules, and the state party rules state about voting that you have to present the slate, and then you have to amend the slate before it's approved, okay? In their rules, they stated that you are to present the slate, vote on the slate, and then amend it afterwards if it gets voted down. That is not what the rules of state party say. And I mean, I could read them to you if you want, but that's not what state party says. So when a point of order was presented to Eric Castiglia, Eric said, well, this is the rule. It's the same as what we're doing. That's basically what he said. The state party rule is the same thing as what we're doing. No, it's not. The state party rule says you're going to amend it before it's approved. And Eric's is you're going to reject it. Like you can't, that's not even the same thing. It's not the same thing. And they tried to blow smoke up our butts and tell us that it was, and it's not, it's literally isn't. And my thing is, is transparency will lower the temperature in a meeting. And had they been transparent from the onset of this convention, that would have lowered the temperature for a lot of the delegates. Yeah, as a nuke delegate, it causes confusion for the nuke delegates. Because even though we know how it's, like, if you know how it's supposed to go, and then there's people, you know, making points of order and making, you know, trying to get the attention and point out things aren't going right, and they just gavel them down or ignore them. To me, that creates the confusion. Like, how am I going to tell my friends, you should be a delegate when I go there and it's like chaos and confusion and you just feel like your voice doesn't really matter because what they want is going to be what's going to happen no matter what. But in the end, I think, I mean, Sheila, do you agree that the slate ended up to be okay? I mean, it wasn't perfect, but it was okay. They did put some of Fortin's people on the – the selection process for the slate, which, you know, I, I don't know. I don't think the slate was as balanced now that I've had time to think back there, they put some people on, but, um, it really, what it comes down to is who shows up on Friday. And I'd like to bring up another point. So Ben, I think it was the day before, was telling me that only delegates who can go both days should be on the delegate list. Anybody else should be on the alternate list. Yes. And I hate to say this, but in the rules, and this rule was pointed out to me by Linda Torp two or three conventions ago, delegates don't get preferential treatment. Certain delegates don't get preferential treatment over other delegates. So just because you can't go on Saturday, but you can go on Friday, he's saying that if you can't go both days, then you should be put on the alternate list. It's like, no, that's not how it should work. And I told him that. And he's like, well, then I'm going to put a motion on the floor. He never ended up doing that. But this is the mindset of a person who actually is running for co-chair of with Teresa Meningioli for Tenth District. This is the mindset of that co-chair. He didn't read the state party rules. He's wanting to have preferential treatment for delegates because he doesn't want delegates to only show up on Friday and not Saturday. You don't want people to do certain things. Go out and educate them. Don't sit there and dictate what they're going to do or how they're going to end up on a slate. That is not how this works. But this is the mentality. People aren't being educated. And you know what? We're doing it and they're getting nervous. Well, if you keep people in the dark, you can do whatever you want. And I mean, that's the MO of the communist state that we found ourselves under for quite a long time. I mean, that's the tools of a Marxist right there. I'd like to know what your, you guys' opinions are on the state chair race right now. Oh, I wanted to talk about that. I really want to hear about this because I'm kind of, everybody's asking me, who do you support, Donna? Who do you support? And I'm like, You know what? I'm probably going to go with a method of frying the bad guys and seeing who floats to the top because we're going to go through the elimination round and why people really are disqualified for it by what they're doing and such. So, I mean, I'm kind of questioning this whole, you know, John James run under Mashaun Maddox tutelage, let's put it that way. And if he did buy a house in Lansing, that's kind of a problem. It looks like a setup to me. Underneath this, but I don't know. I'll give him a chance to say something. However, I have a lot of questions there. First of all, when you have somebody that quits before the race and isn't fighting for a past race, why would that be and why would we back a person like that? You get into office and you better be willing to fight for things instead of just stand down. Well, I wanted to talk about the party, the state party candidates for chair, because they showed up at the convention to speak. Well, Runstad did and Sella did, Sheila? Yeah. Cox announced his run for governor. Runstead was there. Greenlee was there. Greenlee. And Sella was there. Yeah. Okay. I didn't think he was running for governor. Runstead? No, no, no. Cox. Cox is running for governor. Runstead came and he spoke to both districts in both districts. So he spoke in ten and then he went over to nine. And I'm not in nine. I'm in ten. But I heard that one of our executive committee members from the Macomb County GOP group heckled him during his speech. Was that John Macari? Absolutely. And I have huge- I'll say the name. Screw everybody that's doing the wrong thing. I mean, I think we need to name names here. Well, I was going to name him because this is not right. First of all, jim he is the most conservative republican senator we have in lansing by far and he is an elected official and he should not be heckled by his own people his own republicans at a republican event now you can ask him questions and you can call him out on things that maybe you don't like but you should not be heckling him in my opinion the current gop executive committee needs to remove him immediately that is not who we are that is not what we do now I have other reasons to not like ken lakari for like trying to extort money out of me at a political event a trump event um and for trying to block me from getting into a fundraiser that I paid for but Besides that, what he did at county convention was a hundred percent wrong. The executive committee at the GOP, the current Macomb GOP needs to get together and remove him. He's also been posting on Facebook, calling out all the Fortin people as being like terrible people and we need to get rid of them. We're trash. We're garbage. We're trash. So if you, if the Macomb County party is truly, truly counting for unity, and I pointed this out to Gus, You need Ken Licari off your executive board. You need him off. He is not working to unite the party. And to me, that was just outrageous. I like Jim, so I'm standing up for him right now. But I would do it for any Republican elected official that got up there. We're inviting these people to come and educate us on their candidacy. We don't heckle them. We do not do that. We're in the same party. We're in the same party, for Pete's sakes. So there's my rant on Ken Licari. Now let me just talk a little bit about Scott Greenlee. Can I step in one second? This is to this point is that I really believe that this is so insulting to the voters out there to try to determine who they can vote for. A party should be bringing people up as candidates and letting the people decide in who is going to run. You don't sit there and form your little sports teams to make sure that your special interest is served by by elevating some and not elevating some and blah, blah, blah, blah. That's not how the process works. This should be driven from the ground up, not the top down. And if they're doing this in office in the Republican Party, then those that they support are going to be following along with their little Marxist masters and their MOs that they have in place. It doesn't work that way. It's not supposed to if we are actually functioning as Americans. You give people the choice, bring up candidates, choose who you will, and let's see what happens. Well, and then the other thing that people were saying about Jim Runstead is, oh, well, he's a he's a full time senator. He can't be party chair. Oh, that's what I saw that. Well, let me ask you a question is, is you think Scott Greenlee is going to completely give up his political consulting business when he becomes part if he becomes party chair? I mean, that's where his bread and butter is. Yeah, and half the legislatures in Michigan have kept their jobs. I mean, even Doug Wozniak still kept his law firm open. So don't tell me these people that are elected officials are not doing two jobs. A lot of them are. We see it at all levels. So I just wanted to say something about Scott Greenlee. And when I saw his name, I was surprised because I don't know him. I've never met him. I looked at some of his media yesterday. He appears to be a nice guy. But back when Terry McCoskey was running against Sylvia Grott, I got a flyer in the mail and I was very intrigued with Sylvia at the beginning because I was like, who is this woman? I didn't know anything about her. I didn't know anything about Terry either. So I was doing deep dives into research on both of them. And I got this flyer in the mail from the Patriots Education Project saying that they support her. That sounds interesting to me. So I thought, who is the Patriots Education Project? It's a five oh one C four formed by Scott Greenlee, who is, you know, the president, you know, the treasurer, everything. There's no website. There's no nothing. So basically, as a political consultant, he's formed these five oh one C fours to trick voters into thinking people are endorsed by certain organizations that don't even exist. Now, I've told other friends, I was talking about it at the convention, they said, Jean, come on, don't be so naive. That's how it works. That's what they do. He's a political consultant. That's his job. Okay, in my world, yes, I understand that's his job, but he's literally trying to trick voters into voting for somebody based on false information. I can't trust somebody that wants to trick voters. So don't put your Bible verses all over Twitter and then have things where you're tricking people. Tell me I'm wrong. Somebody tell me that I'm wrong. You're not wrong. I mean, either you and this is this is another big problem. You've got people to say, well, this is just the way it is. Why? Because we've got gutlessness in our in our United States to stand for something that I mean, that is a real that that it just just to stand because it's just the way it's always been done. We've got to have these big dollars in the campaigns. This is so much bullshit. It's not even funny. Right. My husband, when I was running for state rep, he says, Jean, if you're successful, you'll never last because you won't go along. You won't go along to get along. And I said, well, then I would be a one-term rep because I'm not going to compromise my values to make you happy. I'm not going to decide that, oh, just because it's wrong, but it advances an agenda, that that's the right way to do things. It's not. It's not. We have a greater person to answer to, and that's God. And you know what? I'm not going to screw up my eternity for something down here. That's not going to happen. And that's why I keep standing up and saying stuff all the time and why I'm encouraging other people to be bold. Somebody said to me at the convention, she's like, I just love your boldness. I love your boldness. The thing that I wish everybody would understand is every single one of us has the same boldness on the inside. We have Jesus on the inside of us. Each one of us has Jesus on the inside and we have that boldness. We just have to find it and bring that boldness out and stand against the evil because the evil will keep coming. Just like Jesus stood up against the evil, he stood up even and talked even until he hung on the cross he talked and he talked and he talked and that's what I will continue to do and I feel like gene and donna you guys do the same I don't care if I run for I don't I don't want to run for office that's not my that's not my gig like I don't care I mean it's if it comes to be then fine But my aspirations aren't to run for office. My aspirations are that everybody speaks truth because when the truth happens, then we actually get somewhere and we get things done. But if we're going to keep lying and cheating and stealing, the devil's just going to keep going and getting bigger. And the people that know Jesus and know that he is on the inside of us, they need to be louder and they need to come together and stand against all of these other people. My question here is, you know, when you watch how this posturing goes, do you think, I'd like to hear you talk more about the state races and the chair races a little bit more. Do you think that Greenlee will step back to support Michonne? I do. I think whoever wins, we have to support. I may not like who wins or may not trust who wins. But whoever, this is important. What happens in twenty six is important. Trump is doing a lot of bold moves. There's a lot of things that are happening that even some Republicans are saying, oh, wait a minute, you know, and the news is doing a really good job of making it sensational. So, you know, Gary Peters stepped down and he says he's not running again. And I have to tell you, I want to give him a lot of credit. Because he's currently sixty six years old. So he would be sixty eight when he was running again. And if he runs in for reelection, which would put him in a six year term, bring him to seventy four years old. So he's saying, you know what? I don't want to be that old guy in the Senate that people are like, is he ever going to leave? So I do give credit, but they are predicting. I watched the Sunday news program yesterday. It's a local one. And they're predicting a blue wave in twenty six because of all the things that are happening right now that people are got their arms up in the air about. Oh, this is funny. Oh, this is so funny. I hate to interrupt you, but I'm going to interrupt you a minute because I did not see this coming. I was just just kind of like taking a guess at how bad things are. But we have some breaking news right now, people. And I'm going to read the whole damn thing. Because I said it a few minutes ago, just knowing how things work and such and making some complete guesses here. But I'm going to read the whole damn thing. Okay. This is breaking news. Get ready, everyone. Brandenburg. Was right. Okay? Get this. Greenlee endorses Mishawn Maddock for MIGOP chair. Lansing, Michigan. Today, Scott Greenlee formally ended his campaign for chairman of Michigan Republican Party and endorsed Mishawn Maddock. Greenlee will be traveling to Washington, D.C. this week to discuss in more detail how to unite the party and ensure there is full-time competent leadership for Republicans of Michigan. He released the following statement. What the hell? OK, I'm going to say that a multi-candidate race is unpredictable on the convention floor. I feel strongly that we need to continue the success we had with Pete Hoekstra, who signed the Patriot Act twice, I'll add, as chairman and not go back to the chaotic days of the past. I have known Michonne for a long time and I'm confident. She has experience and ability to lead the party. She will be able to maximize the assistance we get from President Trump, his donors, his team. I've always been a team player and I'm proud to put loyalty to party over self. I know this is the right thing to do for our party state and country. Effectively running the state party is a full-time job and requires a united team. I look forward to working closely with the Michigan Republicans, the White House, the RNC to restore Mackinac Conference to its former glory. Elect Republicans up and down the ticket from the United States Senate to the governor's office. retake the Senate State or State Senate and maintain and increase our state house majority to win the local levels of government. I encourage the other candidates to also put party over self-ambition and continue uniting the party behind President Trump in advance of the convention. Together we can and will win everything for Michigan. Twenty twenty six. I am kind of. like shocked right now there are several things in here that stick that sticks out to me that are very questionable and going all right now this doesn't shock me Would you like to comment on this little breaking news situation by Greenlee? I would like to hear your comments on it because I'm like, well, this doesn't shock me. Girls, we're just seeing more collectivism every minute of the day and screwing everyday Americans who just want to vote for good candidates. They're forming a cartel once again. It's a cartel situation. And you know who loses? every single person in the state of michigan from this nonsense going on you know he knows that the vote is split between him and and michonne so he just he these are all working together He read the room. And you know what? Scott ran at the last chair run. And the thing is, this is all a game. He is a political consultant. He knows what he's doing. He represents Democrat Democrats, too. I know. To think that he wasn't ever going to step down and support a certain candidate. I mean, come on, let's be real. This is just a game. That's all it is. We are the little pawns that keep moving around. Do you want me to continue to blow this thing wide open here? So what happened in the twenty twenty two election was that they gave the Republican Party gave Craig, I believe, twenty million dollars of which Johnny took twenty percent. And then they tanked him after they moved the money around and had everybody going because the polls, because the polls, because Craig's in the lead right now. Right. Who put him up to who put that up and who bought that? Through money, Republican Party put that up. And I'm going to say it right now. Now, when you go back to what else is happening, and I mean, I don't mean this to be the Republican, everyday Republicans. I'm talking about the Uniparty that's running this thing, which I'm going to look at this right now and say Greenlee and Michonne are all part of it. They stood with Ron Weiser, who was on the Atlantic Council, who moves the money around and blah, blah, blah, who supported Burisma Oil and on and on and on. The connections are amazing. Well, you look at what happened in the twenty twenty two election and the DeVos family and Amway behind it. They literally put Tudor Dixon up who I've got lots of questions to this and then pulled her funding because it's all through funding right before right after she won the primary. And oh, she didn't win. because they honestly did not want to interrupt the power structure. And she didn't have the brain power, brain trust to make anything else work. So they just pulled it and let Whitmer run in because for them, they don't really care. They want the establishment to go in. People, we got to get a little smarter out here. And when we see somebody like Greenlee supporting Michonne, who's already proven like kind of a questionable track record, Michonne, Mershon, whatever Sean she is, she's got her name under lots of different titles. And Laura, I looked it all up because I look behind those things. I think it's time for people to get smarter and say, who is actually going to break up this collectivism, this party politics, not serving the people, but to form many cartels within the parties and people who actually serve America? I don't know. Maybe it's just me. I don't know. Maybe it's just me. What say you? I personally think this is all... I mean, we think that we have a voice in it. I mean, if anything shows us, even though I don't agree with the whole Christina Caramo thing and Hoekstra thing, you know, it's like our voice somehow seems to get subverted, just like it did in Macomb on Thursday. It just seems some way... I mean, look at the whole Mark Fortin thing. When... Two years ago, right, or three or four years ago when they tried to take over the party because they didn't like that Mark got elected and they tried to take over the party and they failed in court. It's the same exact playbook each and every time the people speak. Right. I'm going to interject here because you brought up a good thing. You've got the Caramo Club and then you've got the Pete Hookster Club. is that the are those the only republicans that we could actually run that would make it or were they selected by the uniparty and I said I submit that they were you've got one one candidate who was totally incompetent and who was literally I watched her melt down from the stress and that was christina caramo I looked at the books and then the other one was pete hookster who signed the patriot act two times who's a traitor You signed the Patriot Act. And so why is everybody going rah, rah, re over here, rah, rah, re over here and look at things the way that they should be looked at and say they're both disqualified. Find somebody better. Don't you have anyone better than this? Or is it just another distraction to keep the uniparty in control? I'm going to say it right now. This has to get better. People have to run better people and call them out when they've done the wrong thing. It's an ego trip. It's an ego trip. We're having the same issue in Macomb. We have four candidates running for chair of tenth district. And they're all the same people. It's a crazy thing, you know? And they all think that they can do a better job than the last chair. And maybe some of them can. I don't know. But the point is, is you really have to figure out, like, am I the best person for this job? I mean, I have a right to a vote. So I'm going to vote for who I think is going to do the best job out there. Right? Right. The same thing for the chair, the MIGOP chair vote. I'm going to do that same, same thing. Just like I did two years ago when I, when I did that, I'm going to look at the candidates. In fact, the last tenth chair vote, I abstained because I thought both candidates sucked. They both sucked. We had a horrible, we had two horrible options. This is what we continue to do to our party. We continue to put people in places that don't get things done. I mean, Michonne didn't bring a win for us in She was vice chair. She was with Ron Weiser and she couldn't bring us a win in twenty two. And you know what somebody said in a comment on Facebook? They said, well, you know, she's got the Trump support right now, so she's going to get it done. And I said, OK, but so do the other candidates. They all have the support from Trump. I never saw her one minute support President Trump. I saw her using him and I'm going to be the one to say it because I was up on Mackinac Island in twenty one. when the electioneering started under the direction of Mishawn Maddock. I saw it when I was there. They were electioneering up on, and I never heard President Trump's word or name spoken once. So if anybody tells me that they were stepping up for President Trump, Yeah, you put yourself in the stupid basket because you weren't paying attention then at all. And they're just using them at this point in time. And to absolutely counter her ridiculous claim that, and everybody else is, we need full-time person to run the MIGOP. Okay. I'm kind of for limiting things a little bit. And if somebody can do two jobs, cause they're all going to do it anyway, they're just not going to tell you what they're doing. But, but that's a bad, that's a bad argument because did she step down from, from their businesses when she ran? I don't believe she did. She was still running, running her businesses while she was there. Do we have a signed affidavit that said that I'm going to walk away from any business interest and I'm going to just run under the chair. She didn't do it the last time from my knowledge. And as far as, as Runstad being a senator and a senator running it part-time, I mean, I think that the entire legislature needs to go part-time. The entirety. Somebody needs to get in there and rip this out by the roots and have a part-time legislature, part-time chair, bring candidates, stay in your lane, stop picking people for us, the American people, And and you know what? We're not buying the nonsense anymore. Not going to buy it. Not buying it at all. I'll call it out. You guys are calling it out. I love it. I love you two ladies so much. I think I think you guys are amazing. What did you I kind of took over. So what do you have to say about that? No, I was just going to say about the blue wave that we see maybe coming in twenty six and they're going to be put out here. Gilchrist is talking because we need a senator. We need a governor. We're going to have to probably... Yes, yes. So we've got Gilchrist, Benson, Buttigieg, which... Okay, people... He's not even from Michigan. Oh, they just gave us a chip shot right there. If we get somebody that's even just a little better than Sucks, we should be able to beat them. Yeah. I'm telling you, though, the Democrats love pretty. They do. So, you know... Benson and Buttigieg, they check that box. I'm going to say this. I keep saying this. We have to get to the root of the problem, and the root of the problem are voters and precinct delegates. People that vote don't know what's happening. They aren't engaged, and unless they become engaged, the same thing is going to keep happening over and over again. Same thing with precinct delegates. If precinct delegates aren't going to be engaged and going to conventions, then we won't get anything done. Things will just continue to be the same. That's why Stan does his pizza in politics, because he literally tells people, just like he did at convention, he literally tells people what to do, how to vote, and they listen. Because they don't want to be invited to the party and they don't understand that they can be at the party and not have to be invited. Party might be a Nazi party. We just don't know. I mean, you go back in history and the parties were screwing up Germany and everything else out there. So I got some real questions about joining Nazi. that kind of a pizza party, quite honestly. Absolutely. A little bit, a little bit concerning. Donna, thank you for having us on so that we could voice our grievances. I love it. We will be having a delegate social. We will be having a delegate social on the thirteenth of February at the office, at the old GOP office. So come, it'll be at six o'clock. We're doing a debrief of convention. So any delegates who haven't been to convention, come check it out. meet other delegates. And another thing for delegates, the ninth district is hosting a forum tonight in Lapeer at six p.m. So obviously Greenlee won't be there, but Maybe he will. He might be pushing Michonne in her agenda. Who knows? Yeah, so that's tonight in Lapeer. I think you'd have to go to, I don't know if I can see where it's at. You need to look up and see who's getting paid for what here. I mean, let's go into some campaign finance and see who's getting paid for jobs and such. Okay, it's at Cornerstone Christian Fellowship tonight at six o'clock. It's a meet and greet, and at seven o'clock is the MIGP GOP chair foreman. Gus did also announce at the convention that he is hosting a party chair forum at the American Polish Century Club in Sterling Heights, I believe it is, at six o'clock or seven o'clock. It'll be on the website. So I do encourage the delegates to go to a forum. Don't wait until convention to listen to their fancy speeches. Because by the time they get to convention, they've done the same speech over and over again. And you're going to have a much better chance of talking to them and asking them questions and actually getting to know them before the convention. Waiting till the day of the convention is like waiting till election day to figure out who you're going to vote for. And the research has to be done beforehand. Exactly. I love you ladies, because you're really doing what needs to be done by encouraging the delegates to step forward and do, and really do their jobs and participate. And it's amazing. I love you both. I think you're both extraordinarily, you know, gifted human beings and you tell the truth and you're not afraid of it. And you're actually in there working every day. Hardworking Republicans is what you are as well as, uh, you know, just good people. And I appreciate you bringing the, the, this all forward so much. So listen to these guys because they're, they're actually giving you a delegate way out of this mess that we have going on and, and it can be done, but we do have to get together, not behind, you know, political, I don't know, go team, go crap, but behind actual legal policies, procedures, following the law, doing what's right and serving this nation as one nation under God, not serving this nation as one nation under whoever buys you pizza. OK, and quite honestly, I think that we can probably avoid all these little feed fest that we've got going on there. You know, that's what they do to pigs to get them in a pen. Wild pigs, that's exactly what they do. They start putting fences up around the pigs. And so to bring them to the hog trough, right, they start with one fence and they feed them next to that fence. That's a pig pizza party right there. Then they add another fence and the pigs get used to the fences there, but they're in there with their faces in the food. And then they put the third one up and guess what? Pigs still come in there. They ignore all the fences, the warnings, everything is right there if they were thinking, but no, no, no, no. they're going to the pizza parties right to the feed fest there because they're buying you off through your stomach and then the next thing you know they got a half a half a fence there out of pigs go in not a problem they got a cowboy hit sitting there behind a bush in camouflage and whammo the gate comes shut and the pigs are all caught So there you go. Don't be don't be betrayed by your stomach, people. So anyhow, I hope you got a good laugh out of that. You guys have prayer here and then go on. Please do. All right. Heavenly Father, thank you so very much for Sheila and for Jean and for Vicki and all the wonderful people that are willing to give their time, their treasure, their sacred honor to bring forward the truth to this nation. and that are not going to be paid off or put in a pig pen by a pizza party or any other of the methods that truly need to be questioned in this nation. I would really hope that we see the bigger picture and that we serve you by going not to the political events so much, or the rigged political events, good ones, okay, but to go to our neighbors, our families, our friends, to get out in our communities and and help people by educating them by being there with them by forming relationships and by serving the needs that are out there every single day in front of us the mission field isn't um isn't too far away it's right outside of our front door and we ask that you guide us into doing whatever it is that you would like us to do make our path straight help us to have the strength and the discernment to follow you even when things are chaotic And there's a lot of distraction manipulation. And, uh, I don't know, it's, uh, It's disinformation that's out there. Help us to see through it and cut through all of this so that we can see the truth, make good decisions. And we're going to commit ourselves to searching you out in your will every single day, asking you to guide us and direct our paths. So you've been just a great friend to us. And above all, we ask that many people would turn to you, that the scales would fall off their eyes, not only the people that just everyday people, but also us. the politicians who are desperately in need of salvation and Jesus Christ leading them through this mess so that they aren't also taken captive because the fight is principalities and powers. It's not flesh and blood. And we ask that you would confuse every plan of the enemy, that their plans would come to naught and that your kingdom on earth as it is in heaven would be our goal. We love you so very much in the name of Jesus Christ. We pray. Amen. Amen. So there we go, guys. I guess we're going to go to my non-conceding the twenty twenty two election statement because that's what my statement is every week. It's non-conceding to the twenty twenty two rigged election right there. And that's what it is. So this is where we go. Boys and girls to Brandenburg.com because I'm the best non-conceder who's ever not conceded in the history of the United States of America. And I'd like to have a discussion with. President Trump, the rightful president of the United States in cowboy boots about said activity on twenty twenty two, because we haven't finished the job yet. So with that said, God bless you all. God bless all those whom you love and God bless America. Make it a great day. And I would I would suggest everyone to reach out to Sheila and Jean for. What's really going on here so that you can be informed? Sheila's working very hard to help the delegates not be sucked into the political machine. That's what's happening across the United States. They try to suck us into things through confusion, disinformation, deception. All of the D's come from the devil. They kind of like fall into the same category. to take people captive and suck people in and before you know it you're in over your head so before you make a stop and move find out what's really going on do some investigation watch what's happening make some guesses like I did it was it was kind of a guess here on the greenly thing honest and then whammo as I'm watching a feed out there all of a sudden this letter comes across I'm not kidding you. I had no prior knowledge of that letter coming out this morning. I got a text while we were talking too. Somebody said, show this, show this. It actually came out while we were online right now. So I'm just kind of watching all the nonsense from afar here and making some, you know, some guesses. But I'm going to I'm going to give you I've got a couple of bones to throw y'all. And that would be John James. And I mean, how do you go from thirty two million dollars in a company to one hundred and thirty some odd million dollars in one year? That kind of growth needs to seriously be questioned. And I have some real questions about this. You don't, that's not natural growth for That is not natural growth. I'm just going to say it. And I think we need to ask some questions. It is not natural growth to see some of the things around, you know, Michonne just like shot Jim, you know, Runstad in the foot. I watched her do it on her thing was saying that, you know, talking about needing a full-time, full-time person running the chair. Well, to my knowledge, I don't think that's what she did last time, just a guess. But I mean, I mean, we need to look into these things. Keep watching and such. We'll see you tomorrow. Girls, stay on the line, and then I'm going to end the stream right now. I wish you were all here. It always gets fun after we shut the cameras off. So we'll see you tomorrow. I'll be on with John today. And I might invite a surprise guest on who's been posting a lot. We'll see about this because I want to see if Curtis is available tomorrow to see if he would be interested in coming online. He's always got a lot of stuff to say, and I've got a lot of questions about everybody, but I'll let everybody talk, and wisdom is wisdom. So here you go. All right. All right. Thanks, Donna.