Published Dec. 12, 2024, 9:02 a.m.
9am Macomb County politics have a huge influence over elections in Michigan. When corruption seeps in it effects the whole state of Michigan. Rob Nowicki and Sheila Calhoon bring insight into Macomb County Political dynamic and corruption 10am Bob Cushman - "Join us we begin to explore the methodology of Massive Money Laundering that has enabled both legal and illegal corruption in Michigan and our country." Bob Cushman is an engineer by education and a pilot (now retired) by profession. Bob graduated as a Mechanical Engineer from Purdue University but actually spent the majority of his career flying planes for General Motors Corporation. Bob became politically active in 2010 and has served in unpaid positions as such as precinct delegate, campaign volunteer for the MRP, Clark Durant, Jeff Noble and Patrick Colbeck. In 2020 and 2021 Bob served as an Election Challenger and instructor to other challengers. During both the Primary and the General Elections of 2020 Cushman observed and reported massive fraud in Detroit at the TCF Center. Bob has been a plaintiff in two different lawsuits that successfully sued MI SOS Jocelyn Benson for her UNLAWFUL activities that would serve to prevent election challengers from legally executing their duties to insure fair elections. Since January of 2022 Bob has been Following the Money and documenting money laundering and corruption in Michigan on a current project entitled “Michigan Corruption – Follow the Money”. His ongoing work can be found in a 400 page plus pdf file that can be downloaded for free at (https://michiganscorruption.com ). X/Twitter: https://x.com/i/broadcasts/1ypJdpBkgbRJW Rumble: https://rumble.com/v5yj90n-bnn-brandenburg-news-network-12122024-corruption-macomb-and-investigation-b.html https://rumble.com/v5yj8hw-bnn-brandenburg-news-network-12122024-corruption-macomb-and-investigation-b.html Odysee: https://odysee.com/@BrandenburgNewsNetwork:d/bnn-2024-12-12-corruption-macomb-and-investigation-by-bob-cushman:2 Guests: Donna Brandenburg, Rob Nowicki, Sheila Calhoon, Bob Cushman
Good morning and welcome to Brandenburg News Network. I am Donna Brandenburg and it is the twelfth day of December twenty twenty four twelve twelve twenty twenty four and very, very glad that you decided to join us today. I hope you're having a great day. The week has gone fast. There's lots going on. We can talk about drones. We can talk about about Syria. We can talk about the collapse of Germany and as well as France, the German and the French government have both collapsed. But we're going to go to Michigan elections this morning and the corruption in Michigan. And I want to start out at nine o'clock this morning with Sheila Cohan. And I did spell her name wrong in the in the promotion. So I have to go back and correct that. But at any rate, real news for real people by real people at the kitchen table. And so we're going to get right into this. Good morning. How are you? Good. Good. How are you doing? I'm doing great. It's always another day to get up and get back in the fight and fight for what we believe in and what's right. So that's what we do. Rob will be on in a few minutes. I think we're having a few technical difficulties there. So he'll be on in a minute when we get the microphone system figured out. So what are we going to talk about today? I know that McComb has been consistently in the news because of the amount of trouble and strife that have gone on there and the corruption. When you look at the nonsense that's gone on and how we've gone right back to the same corruption it appears that we had before, I've got a lot of questions. And if we don't get these things figured out or answered, put out there where people know what's going on in the greater area of knowledge. We're just going to repeat the same mistakes in my opinion. I agree. I agree. We had, we had a convention. So leading up to this interview, you and I had a conversation and, and I just was sharing some things about the convention and things before the convention that happened. And basically, you know, We need delegates that are educated. That's really the bottom line of what I want to kind of put out there today. But what I saw at the convention from both sides, like I said before, we shouldn't be always left with two choices at convention. We should have the ability to have good people running for a permanent chair at a convention. And people that are ethical and have moral standing and do the right thing. For me, I felt Mark was the better of the two. But there has been, as I stated to you before, things that I've seen Mark do. Even at that convention that I'm like, okay. we're dealing with good cop, bad cop, really. Like, I mean, Mark's the good side of the thing and Stan is the bad side of the thing, right? Like we're left with two things. So what I did see prior to convention, and this is the first time I'm going to be putting it out publicly. I've shared it with a few people, but yeah, I was on the fence about voting for Mark previous to the convention. A couple days before the convention, I wavered. I really was going to abstain because I really didn't think any choice was a good choice for permanent chair because I knew what they would both do. Um, so, um, I had a few phone calls with people and, and, and ultimately I, I, I think Mark is the better of the two. That's why I say good cop, bad cop. Um, because I felt like he would at least be more fair in the convention area than, um, the other person that ended up being permanent chair. Um, so days leading up to it, um, I had a call with, um, Cheryl miles, um, really good friend of mine, Lou miles. Um, and I trust their judgment. They research things and they are very educated. Um, And they actually, Cheryl had issues at the August convention with Mark and so did Lou. And we can get into that if you want to. But so I had a conversation, well, they brought to my attention the fact that the Macomb GOP bylaws state that you have to send out the rules to the convention, I'm sorry, with a call to convention. So if anybody goes on to the MacombGOP.com website, you can see bylaws and you can see that down in the meeting section. And it's strictly for the convention for executive committee. So when they brought that to my attention, and also at the same phone call, they brought to my attention the fact that Mark kicked Roy Wilson off of the campaign committee as well as Melissa Pellis off the campaign committee. And I just was shocked at that. I didn't know that that occurred. And so I always look to the Bible, and the Bible says go to the people that you're having issues with. So I went to Mark, and I asked Mark. I said, Mark, we need to send out the call to convention. I'm sorry. When we send out the call to convention, we were supposed to put the rules in there for the convention. I said, and I brought that to him, he goes, oh, okay, yeah. I forgot. And I said, okay, well, I said, and, and he, that's not the only time he's ever said that, you know, and it's just par for the course. But I said, well, why don't we send it out today? You know, we're, we're the day before convention. We can still get it in people's hands. So that way they at least have it, even though they were supposed to have a thirty days, they at least have it the day before. And he's like, nah, No, I don't really want to do that. I just don't want to give them ammunition to have a convention. And at that moment, I'm like, okay, well, then how are you different than the people that you call up against, right? I mean, how are you any different than Dan, who you say does things wrong, right? Than who? Than Stan, right? So Stan Grote. Okay. So who is, you know, like these are the two people that were usually left with at permanent chair. And so, um, Then I said, I also asked him at the same phone call, I said, you know, did you kick Melissa and Roy off the campaign committee? And he admitted, yes, he did. And I was so saddened by that because I truly believe in Mark. I think he has a fabulous heart. I think he's a great guy. I think he has exceptional knowledge of politics. But if you have bad fruit, you have bad fruit. If you're lying and deceiving, it's bad fruit. And how can people trust you if you have bad fruit? So after that, I just was very saddened by him saying that. And honestly, I should have abstained, but I felt like to make sure that the convention ran well, I felt like Mark would be the better option. And that's why I chose him. And honestly, I knew it was going to be super close. I knew there were people going over to stay inside. And I thought, I got to at least, you know, get... get, get, have at least have him a chance, you know, um, not, not because I wanted him to win, but because I wanted it to be a better convention than I, than what Stan could do. And honestly, Stan ended up being permanent chair and it, it was, it was a crap show. It really was. It was not a good, it was not a good convention. Really. It wasn't, I think out of the two people for permanent chair, Mark does a better job usually at convention, but you know, he's had late conventions with, you know, we can go into that too. I'm going to try to get Rob on here by phone and see if, if we can't get the computer sound to work, we'll go ahead and see if we can put Rob up here. Yeah. Oh, Hey Rob, how you doing? I'm going to, you're on the phone right now. And what we can do is if we're having some sound problems, we're working through it right now. Oh, okay. Go ahead. Then I'll, then I'll just wait and we'll see what happens. Okay. So perfect. Well, that's good. We'll see if we can get him on too. Yeah. There's, there's always things that, that are, non-ideal let's put it that way and I really do believe that we should never have a protected class of anyone and that we need to question things if they don't seem right then even if it was for me if if if if somebody saw me do something that wasn't correct I would expect them to question me on it because sometimes you make a mistake and you just, you don't think about it until after the fact. And that's why we go to each other and say, hey, hold the phone, you know, respectfully, but hold the phone. I think you could do something differently and it would probably be more ideal or something, or these are the rules. And I always appreciate that. So I think that that's an important part of our process here of being Americans is we have to, we absolutely have to be able to talk freely. We need to be able to question people and we need to have the rules followed and answers. That's the only thing that differentiates us from the cheating side. Exactly. And you know, um, nobody should be afraid to come out and say that, like, like right now I'm probably gonna have people like call me and you know, Mark will probably call me and, and it's okay. You know, the truth is the truth. Whether I share it or not is my choice. And if they want to continue to be friends with me, that's their choice. But ultimately, I got to stand at the gates of heaven and answer for the things that I've done. And so when I know things. And I don't, I feel like things could have been different. You know, I think Mark would have had more votes had he been honest and truthful and not kicked Melissa or Roy off, you know, and just done a lot more things on the up and up. I don't know the people involved there. I do know Mark. Like you said, he's an amazing person. He's done one heck of a job to build the party in Macomb. He's the only one. Him and Lisa are the only ones in the entire state in the Republican Party that I've seen any leadership out of when it comes to county parties. I mean, and that's just the truth. I just haven't seen much leadership. There's just too much bickering and fighting and nonsense that goes on. And when I can go into one of the meetings there and see five or six hundred people in there, three hundred consistently, three to four hundred consistently is is, you know, it's normal to see that many people in a meeting, especially around elections. That's what you're going to see. You're going to see people that are engaged. They're excited about it. They're working together. They're doing rallies. I see none of that throughout the state. That was the only place that I saw really super organized. Now, I may be missing it. It may mean that I'm just not aware of somebody else. who is doing it, but their presence is well known there. So that's what I know. But I don't know the other people within or why, what the reasons were. But I'd invite Mark to come on too and anybody else. And I think that that's the strength of what we're doing here on Brandenburg News Network is giving everyone a chance to speak and say their mind. Then people can make up their own minds and But the truth from different people's perspective has to be out there. So with that said, free speech platform, say whatever you want here. Whether I agree or you agree or anybody agrees, you have the right to say what you want to say. At the convention, Stan ended up being permanent chair and his executive committee got selected. So they had their executive committee meeting last night to pick the chair. And again... What you just shared about Mark and what McComb has done is exactly correct. McComb, under Mark's leadership, did amazing things for the last six years. We have built the party up with grassroots people. And although he didn't do everything correct. Nobody does though. Only Jesus. And he's not here. Correct. Um, I think, you know what I mean? He's not running the meeting. Correct. I think that, I think that his heart was in it. Um, and he wanted to do the right things most of the time. I think, I think sometimes, you know, maybe Satan got, got the best of him and, and, you know, you know, did things, but, um, Ultimately, there were a lot of people volunteering to do things at the office. They were doing rallies. We were making sure that all candidates were accounted for, were spoken for. In the bags that we made, we made twenty thousand bags at the office, twenty thousand to distribute. And we even gave some to other, like, Mike Rogers people and anybody, really, the delegates that came to the office, we gave bags to. So I want to make sure that that is really known, that Mark's group of people that he had under him worked their butts off, worked their butts off. And we didn't have any money. the one thing I want to point out right now is that we didn't have any money from elected officials. The biggest thing that happened that I noticed, which, which opened my eyes to the elected officials and, and just, I, I, you call it corruption. It could, it could be the corruption. It could just be them not, you know, not wanting to, because they don't want us to win. But, um, As soon as Gus, at least this is what I got from my source that I usually get information from, is that Gus Gunham, I think is his name, he's now the county chair of the party. Well, then as soon after that, I think Candace Miller was going to donate ten thousand dollars to the county. Well, why would she donate ten thousand to the county now when she didn't donate it under the leadership of Mark Fortin? You know, also, too, is we had a Lincoln Day dinner with Laura Trump and. We didn't really have elected officials. One, we didn't really have any elected officials other than Barb Zinner. And I think maybe one other elected official. Did we have any at the Laura Trump event? Like Lincoln Day Dinner had no elected officials. Astounding. Macomb County elected officials, not an event where Laura Trump is there. Secondly, the only time there was donations talked about was Pete Lucido put in a donation for the brochure at the event, which was a five hundred dollar donation. And that was only so he could have his picture in there. Not for any other reason. Right. I mean, because let's be honest, he did it for advertising purposes. And then Lisa McClain bought some tape. But we don't really know that. I mean, we can we can assume. But, you know. Right. But I mean, ultimately, the perception. Right. Like we all go on perception. Let's be honest. Even the precinct delegates go on perception that he put it in there as a five hundred dollar donation so that he could have advertising, because that's what the book did is you had advertising dollars in their sponsorship fees. Lisa, Lisa McLean bought some tables. Um, but that was after, um, her, her, um, uh, the person that works for her said, well, what is she going to get out of the event? You know, what, what's, how is she going to be promoted out of this event? Um, and then, and again, this is all information that Mark shared with me. So this is just hearsay that I'm, that I'm hearing. Um, and then, um, Jay DeBoer happily donated a whole table. Ron Weiser, which I was so shocked about, donated a whole table. But we had no representation there from an elected official side. And so I go back to that and say, why? Why are the elected officials not contributing to Macomb County politics when their person is not the leader? I don't get it. Maybe you can share that. Well, what I've seen in politics in general, and we're going to be going over the donations and how that's really coming out in the open on these donations and what's happened with all the smurfing and the money laundering that's going on and the pay to play. The pay to play nonsense that's going on in our political world is what's really, really disturbing to me. Because unless you're going to cough up money for someone, you are voted off the island and it's fast. Because from what I can see, the majority of politics is not about the will of the people. It's about an entrenched, it's an entrenched industry that invites you to all these things. And they love you as long as you're giving them money for their events. And they have events, and this is across the board. They have events to have another event, to have another event, to have another event. And they vet people for those events. So when I see a lot of this stuff, and I've gone to a lot of events. I've gone to a lot of things. I was at the Lincoln Day dinner with Laura Trump. And I got a chance to talk to her, which was really nice. But what I can say is that and something that really disgusts me is that I've been to Mar-a-Lago three times. I've asked for a meeting with President Trump. The answer I've gotten back every single time is that I'm going to have to pay one hundred and fifty thousand dollars. I think the lowest was seventy five thousand dollars. as well as all of these entrance fees and such that go on with this sort of thing. My whole, you know, I work for free for the political things. And so there's nobody that can say anything to change my mind on things because I'm not beholden to anybody. And I'm liable to tell them to shove it, you know, shove it and sincerely shove it. If they say anything and I disagree with it or they're going to try to impugn me on this, I tell them to shove it. Because as I see it, I'm the only one out there that hasn't taken money. Everybody else is on the pay. I'm pretty sure Bob Cushman hasn't taken money, too, which is what I find to be very interesting. However, going back to these events, the normal average people cannot afford this they cannot afford to talk with people they cannot afford to go to these things if they can't afford you know that the people that are are struggling to put food on their table whom we are supposed to be serving they can't even afford to buy the the dress or the shoes to go to these events well that's what happened fundamentally wrong and backwards That, you know, God has blessed me. I've worked my ass off my whole life. Nobody gave me anything. And I'm not a billionaire. I'm not even close. And it really is for Jim Hoft and Gateway Pundit. They lost all credibility to me. And they've also been sued a lot of times because of their absolute slander and libel, which they did to me. And it's still there. And I don't know if I'll ever get away from this, but I've worked my ass off my whole life. And I can still outwork most people in their twenties. But what I see, and God has blessed me, because probably I just don't stop. I don't watch TV. I don't do anything except I work. That's what I do is I work, okay? What I see there, though, is... The system is set against we the people. And I don't just mean the people in office. I mean the political parties. I mean all of these events. I mean all of it. It is so much of the in-club nonsense. It's bullshit. And, you know, how many people can't even drive to get to these events to have that kind of influence because they can't afford the gas, right? And they can't afford the time. I've met so many people. They can't afford to take off their time to even go to these. I had a gal that came over who I consider a very good friend. Her name is Christina. I'm sure she's probably watching. And she came over this weekend with her husband. And they were talking about how the fact that she stayed, she was at work at five o'clock in the morning, never got home, went to the Kent County meeting, which DeVos's and And such were all there. And I've got a lot of questions on this just because of the flow of money and how they propped up Tudor Dixon, who's going to be their little dancing pony on a string for the next election, I'm sure. And how she was literally tears in her eyes telling me how nobody cares about somebody else. who works in a factory all day, who tries to take care of things, who works a good life and shows up and then sees the amount of abuse and corruption going on. And she's like, I'm done. She said, I'm a precinct delegate. She said, I'm done. She said this was none of this was honored. And I'm like, let me tell you how this works. Let just let me tell you how this works. So I went to the Michonne Maddock electioneering rally. Stick it, whoever thinks that that's the wrong term, because that's exactly what it was over in Washington. Everyone that had a position there was all kind of like in cahoots on this. They only paraded out Perry Johnson because they were mining money off of Perry and Craig and Craig. Because they got him to basically forced or coerced him into quitting as a chief of police, which is the job he wanted. He told me that personally. And they took out a three-quarter page ad that said he was running for governor. And he said, I didn't know what to do. But he said, I never wanted to be governor. He wanted to stay as chief of police. Well, they had to remove him. And the reason why they had to get him out of that position is because typically the chief of police takes orders from the mayor. He was brought in under emergency power, so he did what he wanted. Because I always wondered why BLM didn't burn down Detroit. James Craig protected Detroit, and they had to get him out of there so they could create their nonsense because they're all in bed together. All of them are. And they are set against we, the people. And I'm not buying their bullshit anymore, okay? So you go to these events, and you see people who have no word. In Washington, it was full. flat out told to me that we are only trying to make the precinct delegates feel good so they will vote for who we want in office. Flat out that was said to me. And I'm not, like I said, I'm not beholden to anyone. So I don't care who I lay out in front of everyone. This is fundamentally godless. It's manipulative and it's wrong. The Republican Party in the state of Michigan now is such a pathetic. I don't care what anybody says. They're being led right down the primrose path. Who is it, Kent County? Who bought the election last time? Betsy DeVos did. No worries that she did. They paraded Tudor Dixon right out in front of the state with DeVos money as soon as she won that primary. They jerked the funding because they wanted Whitmer in. And why? Hmm. Could be the ties to World Economic Forum. Hmm. Might be the ties to the rest of the globalists. Hmm. Might be ties to the people that Oprah Winfrey, the child trafficker who was allegedly there at the econ club, was tied into. Hmm. I wonder. I wonder. As well as some of the other stuff going on. And I'm just going to tell you flat out right now, guys. We have a global crime syndicate that is buying the elections. If you think you're going to jump onto this party, and this is the issue I had with Tudor Dixon, who is a globalist. His share of family was the one that ruined the foundry industry over in Norton Shores, and I can prove it. I've talked to enough people there to know. They were also involved in selling drugs. information her father's company was an information brokering company based in naples florida I did the research on it I know who we're talking to and then to watch the absolute idiocy of the debate between two cat fighting children who was whitmer and tudor dixon I hope everybody was ashamed of themselves for even watching that it was a low iq cat fight That's all it was about two placed political puppets on their little marionette strings that they're telling what to do because they're all beholden to someone. And also I'll never forgive Tudor Dixon for what she did on manipulating and hijacking people's emotions in this election because she went into, Oh, I'm a cancer survivor. My dad died. Well, you know what? My dad died during my run. I never said a word. I put out a, a, a, a picture of him as I was holding his hand as he died, but I would never have used that as a campaign platform or a reason to vote for me. That has nothing to do with the job. Everyone has, has troubles in their lives. I was diagnosed with cancer years ago and I'm still alive, but I would never ever use those things that are so painful to people as a reason to vote me in and to manipulate them right now. Anyone that votes for her or supports her proves to me that they're just flat ass stupid because they couldn't evaluate it. And they went with a party over what the reality was. And it's a real shame. Because, you know, the terms that have been said over and over again is that these people are stupid. A lot of people thought that meant to be the political party. I'm going to tell you what, the political parties, the governance is only a reflection and a representation of the people. And it is. And it's really sad, but I am not going to sit here and tell people lies like they've been lied to and watch them being led down the primrose path like a bunch of lemmings to their own slaughter. And that's exactly what's going on. They're going to parade her sorry butt out there again, supported by DeVos Money, who is at the Kent County GOP, who's clearly in it. and is going to be affecting it with their money, and you look at the amount of money put in there, anybody that votes for anyone that they support is flat out a low IQ idiot. And that's what's happening across the state in all of these political parties. I watched it. I watched everybody jump their support for me from Macomb, who I had to support the party in Tudor. Well, great, you just supported the globalist agenda. I think the problem is, though, Donna, is that we have precinct delegates who just simply are not educated. We actually have voters who just aren't educated. I agree. It's manipulation. Well, this was my first time ever being in politics. I started in like the end of twenty twenty one. I became a precinct delegate and I really didn't get any deep in it until the last year and a half. Really, I got super educated about things. I really asked a lot of questions. I did Robert's Rules of Order training. I haven't gotten registered or anything, but I did enough to know how to handle myself at a convention. Most of the time, what happens is the leadership that's running for chair and things like that, know that the delegates are not educated. And so they know that they can get things approved. For instance, at the last convention, we already did the approval of the agenda, we already did the approval of the rules at the convention. Well, as soon as Stanley became permanent chair, here comes Joe Biondo up and he changes one of the rules of the convention. And of course, all the delegates are going to vote for it because they don't know any different. But technically, I mean, as long as all the delegates vote for it, he can do it. But technically we already voted on the rules. So I stood up and said, point of order, we already voted on it, but that was dismissed. It was dismissed under nothing really, because he knew what I said was true. We already approved the rules. So, but they made it seem like, you know, they changed the rules to say, well, you know, kind of like, we're going to be able to get out of here quicker if we change this rule too. And it was, it was about voting, which is super important. Like that's the astonishing part. If the delegates understood that that is, that is the most important part of your job is voting. And when they changed the rules to on how you vote, that's them trying to get their way. Because we went from a roll call vote at the beginning for permanent chair and how any vote would happen to then just a standing with your credential vote. And Donna, I think you're well aware that a standing credential vote isn't necessarily a great count either, right? Like the most true count is when you do a standing roll call vote And people announce yes or no or whoever they're voting for chair. Like that's a true vote. And so that's what they did to change that rule. And to me, I'll go back to this. The education of the delegates is the reason why we keep getting taken advantage of by, call it the globalists, call it the elected officials, call it the unit party, call it whatever you want. But if you are not an educated citizen of the United States, both from the Constitution, from the Bill of Rights, how our government works, being a precinct delegate, Robert's Rules of Order, then you might as well just stay home and not do anything because you're... You're not they're taking advantage of you. They're taking advantage of your lack of knowledge. That's really what's happening. Well, and it's like all war. We're in a war right now, whether it's an undeclared war, but we're in a war and all war is deception. So when you look at these people in the seats that are leading people astray and they know what they're doing, they're really good at it. That, you know, especially when there's a group of people that don't want to be ostracized or kicked out of the club for some reason or get consternation or disapproval from the people that they spent a lot of time with. You have a very dangerous situation because every single person can be manipulated within that confine. And that's kind of too bad because that's what we saw. And I think we're getting better. I mean, Kent County, most of the parties stood up and did the right thing in Kent County with the convention. And they demanded that that the rules were followed and it needs to happen. But we need to see a lot more education on that. And the people have to have the fortitude to stand up for what's right. And I just I hope that that continues to grow. And I appreciate you speaking out. It's like I'm not mad at you. I'm mad at the whole damn party. I'm mad at the whole damn state right now. You know, it's like when I got asked to run for governor, I literally hated everyone. I'm like, I'm not into politics. I don't want to do this, you know. And I'm not mad. I'm not mad at anyone. Honestly, I'm not mad at Mark. I'm not mad at Stan. I'm not mad at, you know what? I just want to see people. I want to see people get educated because in every facet of our life, the only reason we get taken advantage of is because we aren't educated about the thing that we're getting taken advantage of. And you could talk about money. You can talk about politics. You could talk about government, whatever it is. We, we, we, we fall and fail for the lack of knowledge. Yeah, I'd say you're right on that one. So that's absolutely true. Well, I'm glad you're here, Rob. We finally got it working, huh? Yeah, I'm on the phone, though. I'm not on my laptop. But anyway, yeah, I was a little bit upset with a few of the people that when I asked directly, do I need Robert's rules? Because I couldn't make it to the formal one last summer. No, you don't need it. You know, and I was like a little put off by that. And then we started some classes and, you know, I gave you a little bit of some knowledge, but, you know, I think that we could have expanded on that. Yes, there's a knowledge deficit in the newcomers. And I think that if you're going to sign up to be a delegate, you better know how to use the rules to your advantage. And I think that's how Stan got away with it. And I think that it's also, it was almost encouraged that you didn't have to know these things in a way. And I think that lack of knowledge only gives those at the top that know the ability to control the situation. I'm big on education, obviously, like she is. And that's the only reason I'm here is that I saw some things in that party. Uh, in that, uh, convention, the County convention that, um, could have changed. I'm two, two people. That's all it took to overthrow the party three really. And there was people that were, uh, abstaining from voting because they didn't know who to vote for. Well, why did you sign up to become a delegate? I was, why would you go there without knowing what you were walking into? Right. And because they were offered the pizza and the pierogi. Exactly. Yeah. But yet you still didn't know how to vote. I'm kind of curious about that. And I was told that people were unknowingly signed up to be delegates that didn't even know they were delegates and they weren't real. Yeah. Yeah, so when people go to Stan's Pizza and Politics, they're basically told, don't worry about it, just sign up, we'll tell you what to do when you need to know. And that's really how he gets people signed up. He doesn't educate them about what they're going to need to do. But to be honest with you, I saw Mark's side, and I didn't see a lot of people getting educated on that side either. I saw a lot more people getting talked to and spoken to But they weren't wooed by pizza and celebrities and things like that. They were more like, hey, do you want to be a precinct delegate? We want to try and save our state, our county. Do you want to do this? What we need to do is, hey... This is your A, B, C, D, E for being a precinct delegate. It's going to take work. Is this something that you would want to do? But we don't do that. And Rob's right. We have to start doing that in order to get back to grassroots. And we have, I can share with you a way to get back the grassroots for the Tenth District at the next convention. But go ahead, Rob. Sorry. No, no, no. You know, I've Like, like you said, there is there's education. There's a, like a grassroots, if you will, coming out of the market party, the Fortin party, uh, not enough education. Um, but the other side with the, uh, you know, uh, the globalist side, because they are connected on without a doubt, certain of that. Um, I had a train of thought that I was before what I was going to go with this, but, um, uh, well, and. And it'll come to you, I'm sure. I think that what's helpful is like for me, I represent the average person that's out there who is totally disenfranchised with the political system. And I was for a long time. I only got involved because I thought like, you know, Trump's at least path of what he was speaking about and the lawfare that was being thrown at him would open up a path to okay, let's change our government system as a whole. I would agree with that. President Trump was the reason why I even gave a second look at politics. And he is the greatest president that's ever been in the United States of America, in my opinion. But now we've got the problem with local politics, which he can't do it without state leadership, without leaders in the community that are absolutely stepping up and going after this like a freaking pit bull in the state. The problem is that we have the goons from the Atlantic Council and the globalists that are funding a pseudo grassroots level. I mean, you know, Stan was with the Tea Party movement, which was a grassroots level, which was basically turned into controlled opposition. I didn't know he was part of that. Oh, yeah. We've got a video where he's talking about as a city clerk or township clerk, he's a kingmaker. For real. I didn't know he was part of the Tea Party. That's really interesting. Yeah. This is going back to two thousand twelve. So John has that video, by the way. So, wow, that's interesting. Yeah, so I think it's really important to talk about these issues to hopefully kick people in the behind a little bit and get them actually thinking and getting educated to your point. If you were going to have people get educated, what would the steps be for that? That's your question. The first thing that I would recommend, I was doing precinct delegates. In fact, Robert came to one of the precinct delegate trainings I did. Elizabeth Hannah was doing them before, and both of us could be doing. But I was doing precinct delegate trainings. I had Teresa Mangioli from Rochester. She came out and trained. Elizabeth trained. We used to do Robert's Rules of Order training. Um, I think that we have got to be doing that at least a couple of times a month. I can keep doing them, but I need help. Like, that's why I didn't continue as much because I, I do have a son. I have to make sure that he's taken care of first. I do have a business. I have to make sure that's good. And I have a husband and I have to make sure that, you know, everything's still good in my life before I put politics, you know, before I start doing politics. So, So we just need more people to step up, get educated, and then start training as well. Because if we can get enough precinct delegates trained, I mean, if nobody realizes this, the precinct delegates are the most important part of the political party. We're the ones that elect all of these things. And so if we aren't educated, then everything else gets ran from the top down. Right. And that's the way the globalists do it. Exactly. They give the money. You're just there as a number. That's all you are. You're a mushroom. We'll feed you the shit. And that's the way they want it. Well, that's the thing. People have to stop looking at money, and I know it's hard, but I hit rock bottom, and I knew what it was like to live in a car, and I was like, you know what? Nobody's going to buy me. Nobody's going to be able to give me money to do something evil because I know what it's like to not have money, and I would go back there just to make sure that I held my integrity intact. But anyways, we have to be educating. I was going to run for Tenth District. I'm not now. It's a personal reason. But I still want to make sure that our Tenth District precinct delegates are educated to the hilt. Because I want them to walk into convention, a county convention, and I want them to know everything they need to know about people that could be running for permanent chair. I want them to know about the rules of the convention and what happens if this happens. For instance, at that particular convention, after the permanent chair vote, and this is so important, after the permanent chair vote, people were leaving. Well, guess what? We still have other votes that need to happen. And if you leave, or if one side leaves more than the other side, then guess what? Somebody could take it over. So, for instance, if we had more stance people leave, we could have rejected his whole slate for the executive committee. But people, educated delegates, did not know this. Or I should say delegates that were not educated did not know this because they're not educated. And had we had a bunch of people that stayed and said, we're going to fight until the end, which, you know, precinct delegates that sign up and get mad because a convention goes late or there's fighting, just buck up, buttercup. Like, grow up. You are in politics now. That is my point exactly with what you said right there. You have to get strong. I ran into a young man who I met at the Laura Trump dinner and talked him into signing up as a delegate in Warren because he said, I'm sick of the way the schools are running, things like that. So he didn't take time. ownership of the fact that he wasn't coming to the meetings in the county. And he said he voted for Stan because he didn't know who to vote for. And I said, well, if you would have done that to the office, we could have helped you out with educating you at least to who has the greater stance about education. Well, you feel my pain here, too, because this is what we're all talking the same thing is that people have got to start taking things seriously because of the lack of commitment and taking the whole self-governance seriously. This is where we're really running into problem. And I'm so sorry that you guys got abandoned in that regard because that doesn't feel good. And it doesn't feel good when you're doing so much work like you are, Sheila, and that you're just not getting the help. It's okay. Everything's a process. It'll happen. But I think if we can just keep talking about this, then hopefully some changes will happen. My fear is that, and I've seen it even out in the world, everybody just gets glorified by a shiny object, right? Like everybody likes the shiny object. Stan is good at that. He offers that shiny object for everyone. Oh, we're going to make it easy for you. That easy button isn't the way to go ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever. The hard way is the way you grow. And in order to do that, you can't have it easy. You can't have someone tell you what to do. If somebody tells you what to do, then they're telling you what to do. You're not thinking for yourself. So you're not actually a precinct delegate. You're a robot. You're a puppet at that point. Right. So that was the other reason why I picked Mark, because Mark does that type of leadership. I feel like Mark could... I don't feel like he's a good leader in the sense that he tells and directs people what to do. I think he fears that he'd be a dictator if he did that. But I think he needs to have more leadership ability to do that. But he allows people to do certain things, you know what I mean? Like with the training and getting us educated and things like that. Um, so, but Stan doesn't, he just, he just like, you'll need, you'll learn when you, when I tell you, you need to learn basically. And that's not good. That's not good for precinct delegates. We'll keep you happy. I went to one of those meetings to, you know, kind of see who from our office would show up. And I was a little disappointed, but you know, not, not terribly. And, uh, his wife, um, who is a, uh, on the County commission board. She was there and she said, uh, or he said, whoever lives in, uh, Shelby township, go ahead and raise your hand. We have a gift for you. So I did. And she was handing out these Sylvia grad custom made playing cards. When I look at it, I'm like, was this a way of saying you stack the deck? Oh, so. Yeah, there's a lot of dirty politics here in the township and in Macomb in general. And I feel bad for my friend, Terry Lukowski, I think. Yes. I think he won the vote because, and I'm going to just stand on that, because the thing that really got me in this last election, and nobody wants to say anything, but here's Donna Brandenburg, I'm going to say whatever I need to say to write this nation, is that why did they allow President Trump to win? And that's my question. If we went in and we actually did an audit and counted it, he won by an overwhelming landslide. So the totals, there's no two ways about it, but we don't know unless we can actually see and get the – and I don't mean – I mean see – Not just recount the votes because that's not going to work because they're cheating in the absentee votes. They're cheating all over. Not one place. It's cheating in multiple places, right? But where you can really see it is how badly they cheated in the down ballot races. And I got to say, Mike Rogers conceded way too early to Slotkin. And so I've got a problem with that. I saw Ryan Kelly do the same thing when in one of the counties that he was in in the twenty two election. He had more donors than he had votes. That is statistically impossible. And then Tudor Dixon, the number one failure of candidates in the state of Michigan, who they gave a pass on with her fraudulent signatures. or her error written signatures, they gave her a pass. They came after five of us, but they gave her a pass. How does that work? And then she also decided to concede before the votes were counted. Now, I don't know about you, but when we're here talking about people growing up and fighting, When we're talking about the precinct delegates fighting, politics is tough. Don't get in it unless you're going to get in there to do it the right way. Not to win at all costs, but to win because we've kept the law. And that takes some work and knowledge, right? But I think that that's what we're all talking about here is people taking this self-governance honestly as a part-time job. We should all consider it as our civic duty. Right. President Trump, though he got in, and I'm expecting, I'm hoping that he does wonderful things. I'm really seeing some very interesting game theory stuff going on with him, which I really appreciate. I think he's very smart. He knows how to infiltrate. He knows how to keep his enemies close. And he's smart enough to be able to work with both sides and play both sides a little bit. Let's hope he knows how to play that game. I think he does. I would hope that he learned something from the first time around and getting dragged through the mud. You know what I would do with the FBI? he's got cash to tell okay like I've met cash I know cash um some and you know what I would do I would just watch what they're doing for the subversion and say you know what this is what we're gonna do the fbi you fired all of you fire the whole thing close it down he can do it because it was created by an act he can do it by a stroke of a pen fire everybody and say now he says he likes to rank and file he just has a problem with those at the top and I think that's with any business But think about this in the corruption. You do that and then tell everybody, you know what, start whistleblowing and squealing on everybody around you. And we're going to find out who's telling the truth and who's not and hire them back based on that. Then let cash look at the record and prosecute the record. That way they could go through and they could actually remove. It's not trying to gimp along a polluted swamp. You're cleaning the swamp and then you're prosecuting the swamp and you're getting rid of the bad actors in the swamp. Well, right. Didn't Ray just resign like, or he's going to resign shortly. Yeah. Yes. And there was a bunch of people that were crying out. They were going to resign too. Good. It'll be easier. You know what it is? It's the Trump factor. It's like boo-hoo. They're scared to death of him. I don't know if you saw it, but a good portion of the government in Germany resigned and walked out the day after the election, and it was because they're scared to death of his tariffs. I love that because he's the only person I've ever seen that actually knows how to use tariffs correctly. Yeah. So they know what he's going to do. We have government without taxation of its citizens all the way up until nineteen thirteen based on tariffs. And they did a fine job. So this is going to help us, if anything. Agreed. But I think that Germany, France, you see what happened with Germany, France, and then Syria, they ended up giving twelve billion dollars to Assad. And now he's sitting his butt up there with Putin up in Russia. So he either did something really good or we've got some other things to question there. But we've got two, we've got three governments right now that had significant impact after President Trump won the election. That's the Trump factor is that he's already having an effect on the world and how people are looking at the fact that looks kind of like justice is coming and the reaction is pretty telling. I don't know that that has any say on what went on with Assad. I know that he had a pretty diplomatic government in there as opposed in the view of he tolerated and had an open society for all religions. They didn't have any issues there. And now we have CIA-backed ISIS and all the other stuff that's over there that was all coming from Zionist money and our money. I actually agree with you on that one. I'm not saying that he did anything wrong. The fact that he's still alive and up with Putin up there is kind of a big, big deal. But we know what it looks like to me. It looks like Netanyahu was involved in that. My guess is that they're afraid of being bombed and he needs a place to stash Israelis up there in Syria because they've got no blast zones up there. But that's just my own personal observation and curiosity on what's going on. It's part of that Greater Israel Project, which is part of the Belt and Road Initiative. I agree with that. And the Ben-Gurion Canal, the whole thing is very, very suspect. There's also a pipeline that they want to run from Iran up through Russia. And I don't know if that's... The other pipeline that I read is coming from... I believe Saudi Arabia up through the greater Israel project to Europe. So there's two pipelines that they're talking about that I didn't read on. So who knows? I mean, we know that with China involved and they're developing Africa, that this is the Rothschilds and the Zionists funded them in forty eight. They play both sides, and this is part of that. So how do we look at this? Is it going to all stop? It's not going to stop. We just have to know how to adapt to live through it. And the only way to do any of this is just to get good with God and insulate from the problems that could be caused in our own lives and just fight that. I am kind of through with this whole political thing. I'll fight on my end. What little I can. But the big picture, it was set in stone a long time ago. And too many rich people and people that were put in positions made this happen. This has been going on for a hundred and twenty years. They've been doing it to control the economics because that's what happened. You can go back before the Bolsheviks and the communists, the Bolsheviks and such. And we all know what the ethnicity was on that. And looking at those problems and you can make some pretty good determinations just by connecting the dots. But I think to my point is that people are going to have to start voting their conscience. and voting for the person that can get the job done instead of what the cult tells them to vote for. Well, they need to be educated. They need to be educated on how to vote, when to vote, all of those things. There was people at the precincts saying, you know, do I vote straight ticket? Do I vote, you know, how do I do this? Do I circle inside? They don't literally even know how to vote. We have to be teaching people everything. The lack of education in this country is our biggest downfall completely. And it's done on purpose. And if we can just focus on the education, I homeschool my son and we did this. We are educating them about the bill of rights, the constitution. I'll be educating them about how to vote and, and, and, you know, the laws about voting and, and, and how to, you know, fill it, fill in the circle and what straight party means and all these things. he'll be an educated voter before he's, he's able to vote, but we have to be doing that to people that are even forty, fifty, sixty years old, that this is their first time voting. It was kind of odd because, uh, Benson put out, you know, in the media on, you know, mainstream TV that, uh, if you voted straight ticket, it wasn't reading your ballot properly. And this was on two, four and seven here locally, you know, which is NBC and all that. And, uh, So who didn't see that broadcast and say, oh, I better not vote straight ticket on a Republican because it's not going to read right. And then to talk about, to go back to McCoskey real quick, it's odd that all of the Republicans won in Macomb County. Even Rogers won in Macomb County. But Terry didn't. Isn't that astonishing? Not really. They're just kind of putting numbers in and making the elections come the way they want, in my opinion. But, you know, they just got to have a we may need to hold them accountable and see what's really going on there. I love your devotion and your fire, Sheila, and your passion for helping people get educated. You know what we should do before the next election is have you come on and do a class. We could do a class like this and talk about these issues. And so that people can get educated on the process so that when they walk in, nobody's telling anybody what to vote. You know, the vice chair of the Constitution Party here, we don't tell anybody who to vote for. In fact, I was right out there. I didn't support Terry, Randall Terry, and he knew it. I know Terry. I said, I'm voting for President Trump. And that's the way it is. You know, we bring candidates forward, but we don't dictate. who people vote for within the party. We don't mandate that people have to vote for anyone. You vote for who you want and we uphold people's rights. That's one of my big complaints I have with the Republican Party and the Democrat Party is that it's all along party lines. Well, what if somebody disagrees with that? That becomes a real big problem across the board. And I'm an officer, and I was telling you people, vote for whoever you want to vote for. I'm not going to tell you who to vote for. And vote for the best candidate. But I do think that would be a fun project to be on, wouldn't it? We can go ahead and educate them. Yeah, I plan on doing more training. In fact, I'm going to probably start a YouTube channel and put education out there for people. That sounds wonderful. I love that. Well, guys, thanks for being on today. I'd love for you to come back on again and we'll talk about those hard, tough subjects that nobody wants to talk about. and throw it out there so people can actually think about it and come to their own conclusions yeah so you guys have a wonderful day I'm going to take a quick break and then we have bob cushman on which I am so excited to talk about to talk to this guy you know I love bob's work okay Hands down, I've only got a few researchers. And, you know, Jonathan Kegel, Vicki Davis, and Bob, there's just a couple of them that I really, really, really like. And I love Bob's work. He does a great job. He doesn't do it for money, which is always one of those litmus tests that I put to people. It's just, are they in it just to do money, to get more money to Bob, blah, blah, on and on nonsense. Well, that's all I got educated was reading both of those guys, both Cushman and – what Jonathan Cagle's been sending me for the past year. And because I knew the pot, the pond was deep, but I didn't know how big, how deep it was. Jonathan's somebody I consider a good friend. I love Jonathan. I love Ivan Raiklin. Ivan's a good friend of mine. And so like, I love these guys that are doing this research and putting it out there. And Vicki, she's just a sister. I love her. And, you know, it's like, I love people that do good research because it does to your point exactly that it educates people and, They wouldn't even know that because the narrative and the brainwashing in the media, fake news is so big. I don't really hold it against anybody if they didn't know, because none of us knew at some point we had to wake up and we had to grow up and we had to, get educated and take responsibility for things. So, but we're kind of there. We've kind of way jumped the shark. We're past that episode right now and we need to move into a brighter future. And you two are working towards that. We have to do this one thing and that's to hold president Trump and everybody that espoused that the dominion and the electronic voting system had to be dealt with and get out of there and go back to a trustworthy system. If anything gets done, it's gotta be that. I agree with that. Thanks. Thanks for being on today. And I look forward to talking to you again soon. Okay. Thank you. So Warriors, Sheila and Rob, I'm thankful for you guys. And we'll be right back with Bob Cushman. Good morning and welcome to the second hour of Brandenburg News Network. I am Donna Brandenburg and it's the twelfth day of December twenty twenty four. Welcome to our show today. And I'm pleased, proud and very excited to bring Bob Cushman on. And we're talking about exploring the methodology of massive and I mean massive money laundering that has enabled both legal and illegal corruption in the state of Michigan. So just going give you a little history here. Bob has been a plaintiff in two different lawsuits that successfully sued Michigan Secretary of State Jocelyn Benson, globalist, for her unlawful activities that would serve to prevent election challengers from legally executing their duties to ensure free and fair elections. Bob has been doing an amazing amount of research, and I am not kidding you. If you jump into his site, which is MichiganCorruption.com, you're going to get a real education there because he not only has got a variety of topics, he's got many chapters and many pages, but there's so much information in there. You could spend full time looking at this and going through his information, and you still would just scratch the surface. But anyhow, morning, Bob. How are you? Good morning, Donna. How are you? I'm great. And I fail to say that you're also a pilot now retired, which everybody knows that I am totally aircraft and flight obsessed. Well, I started out my adult life as an engineer, and I quickly found out that flying airplanes was a whole lot more fun than pushing a pencil. So that's what I did for the rest of my life. I can't say that you made a poor choice. Flying is kind of cool. I love it. Well, you know, I think God gives us all unique talents and the way to live a happy and successful life, I think, is just to pursue the talents and skills that you have that God gave you and it worked for me. That's awesome. Well, where are we going to go with today's show? Because, I mean, with your site and everything that you've got on there, you know, we talked about how much we could go into. And I know we've got a PowerPoint here that we can put up. But let's talk about an overall, you know, overall what the problems are in Michigan as far as... the money laundering and the corruption that we're facing right now, because it's just, it's horrific. Well, you know, as you probably have become aware in the last several years, I've put together what I'm calling my Michigan Corruption Dossier, which is basically my website. And it's something like seven hundred and forty seven pages and one hundred and twelve or one hundred and thirteen chapters. And it continues to grow. And I've spent the last week, since we agreed that I would come on your show, and I've spent the last week knowing that there is a zillion things out there and trying to figure out how best to present the big picture. And I think, in my mind, since there is so much corruption, both at the state and the federal level, and I've just scratched the surface, but I've got a lot of data, as you know, I thought the best thing to do was to approach it from a people standpoint. And if you want to flip to my first slide, I don't know if you can do that there. This is my thought train on how to approach today and how to approach what we want to present. And it is certainly not a secret that we Americans are very unhappy with our government. We've known for quite some time now that our government is not doing the will of the people. And I want to quote Abraham Lincoln, who came up with the ten words, which I think best summarize the six thousand words in the declaration of independence in the constitution and that is government of the people by the people for the people but that's not what we have we've got a government of special interest by special interest for special interests and that's a problem and people are becoming more and more dissatisfied with that situation And when you look at the latest polls on how happy or not people are with our government, specifically the polls on whether or not people approve of our Congress, you'll see that it's down to a relative all-time low, and it bounces back between about sixteen and nineteen percent approval. The nineteen percent approval just last month from one of the famous polls is an indication that approximately four-fifths of our population do not approve of our government. That's pretty telling. It is. And if we can slip to the next slide. I just thought it'd be useful to take a look at the textbook definition of what is corruption. We can just read through it quickly. Dishonest or illegal behavior, especially by powerful people such as government officials or police. Inducement to do wrong by improper means and departure from original or what is pure and correct. You know, There is two types of corruption in my mind, and you can think this through, and that is there's legal corruption and there's illegal corruption. And an example of what I would consider legal corruption is the laws that have been created by our not-so-pure legislators, both at the state and the federal level, to allow all kinds of special interest money to find its way to the coffers of individuals that get reelected for government. And when that happens, the people that are doing the bidding, the making the laws are doing the bidding of the special interests, not us. Now, that's a kind of legalized corruption, right? It's legal to do so. And if you try and have it, if you try and have and I'm sure you have have a discussion about what's right, what's wrong, what's fair and what's not fair with an attorney, they always come back to, well, it's legal. That seems to be their only metric for judging things. And you and I probably don't look at things quite that way. Would you agree? I would definitely agree. There's right and there's wrong. And the legal system has been used in an egregious way to violate the real law by deception and manipulation. Now, we're going to be talking kind of a preview of what we're going to be talking about a lot is the FEC. That's the Federal Elections Commission and Act Blue. in my mind and I'll be explaining this as we go through the data in my mind both of these entities are extremely corrupt they're extremely complicit in the massive money laundering which we're about to roll out here could you hit the next slide please next one okay I think this begins to show us what's going on and I want to emphasize the now this is uh according to um secrets, open secrets and open secrets has calculated that in back in twenty sixteen, the Democrats spent about two point three billion dollars on all election funding and fast forwarded four years later to twenty twenty. They spent eight point four billion. Well, that equates to about three and a half times in twenty twenty what they spent in twenty sixteen. Now, if you look at the definition of ActBlue, you'll see that they went out and they're trying to gather grassroots small contributions. Well, I ask you the question very loudly and sincerely, how is it that all of a sudden the amount of money that was available multiplied by three point five from two point three billion to eight point four billion for the Democrats side of the fence? It just doesn't make any sense. And that's where I think we can begin to prove that there is massive money laundering involved. It sure looks that way. Now, you know, ActBlue was instituted twenty years ago. That kind of surprised me when I looked it up. Now, unfortunately, I have to say, in all fairness, the Republicans have started duplicating what Act Blue does with their use of WinRed. But it's just so far, it's just a fraction of the massive money laundering that we see with Act Blue. And WinRed has only been in existence five years as opposed to twenty years for Act Blue. But it's only been in the last two or three years that people have really woken up. to what's going on with ActBlue, and we'll be talking about that in some of the later slides. I want to emphasize the phrase hidden in plain sight because I have to give the people that created ActBlue, they were genius. They hid the money laundering in plain sight, and we'll show you some fantastic examples in some of the later slides of how they did it. But basically what they're doing, we call the people that are money mules, we call them smurfs. It's just a term, I guess they took that from the drug world. But these smurfs, and I think I can say this with almost a hundred percent certainty, none of the people involved in this know what's going on. They had their identity stolen. And the people, and that's why the FEC is so complicit with ActBlue and this, is let's say that in the case of a Malaysian businessman, his name is Joe Lowe from Malaysia. This guy stole four point five billion dollars from the country of Malaysia. And later on, we'll see where there's a lawsuit where DiCaprio, that movie star, what's his first name? Leo Leo DiCaprio. testified in court that he was told by this Joe Lowe that he was going to give twenty or thirty men or have given twenty or thirty million dollars to Obama. So here's the challenge that happens when you have this massive money laundering is how do you filter this money into the system to avoid detection? Allegedly, that is one of the jobs the FEC is to to detect when there's money laundering going on. What they have done is they've stolen the identity of hundreds of thousands, perhaps millions of people, and they've made it look like they made small contributions, and oftentimes it's small. The average contribution might be ten, twenty, thirty dollars, but when you multiply it by five hundred thousand or a couple million, you can see these numbers rise to large levels. I think we can go to the next slide. Okay, there's our Smurfs. Well, I've already vocalized most of the content of this slide. Well, you know, going back to WinRed, WinRed and several other, there was another one, but the people that were behind it, they hit my personal credit card for donations between five hundred to two thousand dollars on campaigns I'd never even heard of. So my concern is, is that there's so much of this money laundering and intentional fraud or or taking money that can't be accounted for that they didn't. take into account that they might be hitting a personal credit card. So my question is, is not only the Smurfs, but how many other campaigns either act blue or win red? How many people have actually had fraudulent money taken out of and they basically steal your identity from that also? It's a different issue a little bit, but it's still corruption. I think that's a very valid point. And it's not one that I have researched. And until you told me about it, I wasn't aware of it, but I can see how that could be one of the avenues, perhaps not the main avenue, but one of the avenues in which the bad guys have stolen identities, but in this case, stolen monies. Now, everything I'm talking about is a situation where the alleged money that an individual gave never happened. In other words, it's all pretend that this person gave money. But there's this massive fund from elsewhere. And unfortunately, many times we're starting to see that it's from foreign sources, which is a whole other level of corruption and bad, right? Yeah, they just stamp their name on it. People's names randomly. Now, this is something I want to touch on because Go back five years, and I was doing some random investigations, and I was looking at tremendous amounts of money coming into the coffers for Elissa Slotkin, Haley Stevens, and Rashida Tlaib. And so I taught myself how to download the data, in this case from the FEC, because if it's a federal office, which Congress is, you have to go to FEC.gov to find the information. If it's a state office, then you go to MI.gov. But anyhow, that being the case, I could not believe that these massive amounts of money, that seventy five percent, almost in all three cases, three quarters of all the money that was coming to these three Democrat congresswomen was coming from out of state. And it just made no sense to me. And admittedly, I didn't know what the big picture was back then. But I was concerned enough to write a letter, and I wrote the same letter basically to the DOJ, which was William Barr, the FBI, which was Christopher Wray, and the U.S. attorney for Southeast Michigan, whose name is Matthew Schneider, he's no longer the U.S. attorney, calling for an investigation of the potential fraud. I'm sad to report that I never got a substantive response from any of the three. And of course, that was very disappointing. But since then, I guess it's safe to say we've all learned how corrupt Barr and Christopher Wray are. I'm not prepared to say that about Matthew Schneider, but who knows? But the good news is, and we'll see this a little bit, the good news is that this subject of the massive money laundering as facilitated through ActBlue and the FEC is becoming more and more of a boiling point. It's taken a number of years to come to the surface, but I think we're getting there. Next slide, please. Do you remember the name Sam Bankman-Fried? Oh, of course. He, I think it was, well, it looks like it was somewhere back in that he got convicted or indicted and then he got convicted and they found out that he had laundered What I believe I remember, and I'm speaking from memory, was something like one or two hundred million dollars into the political coffer system. And I don't know that we can say that it was offshore, although I would imagine a lot of this money may have been coming from foreign sources. But the fact is, once again, hundreds of millions of dollars went into this total, which was probably in the billions. And some of this came in the pipeline from Sam Bankman-Fried. And this just is another data point in my mind of the proof of what's going on. Now, before I go any farther, I should lay this groundwork. I recently had a conversation with a former congressman, Kerry Benavolio, I think you know him. And he told me, that after he went to Congress, that he became aware of massive money laundering in this way. And specifically, I think he was thinking about the same money laundering we're talking about in the ActBlue FEC realm. And I would guess, I don't know, but I would guess that once somebody has been in Congress or the Senate for a year or two, At some point, they've got to know about this massive money laundering because it's everywhere. Interestingly enough, and one of the things we may touch on later in one of these slides, is that there is a senator named Marco Rubio who probably almost two years ago put forth legislation to try and prevent this type of money laundering going forward request requiring the verification numbers that you know, when you have a credit card and you call in and you want to buy something you call, you have to identify this two or three digit number to make sure that you really have the card and it's really you. And ActBlue up until about two months ago, did not require anybody making a donation to verify that CVV number. and uh under with a huge amount of public pressure and a lot of it coming from congress they just started doing it about two months ago so the point I'm trying to make here is that there's a oh and the the one thing I forgot to mention is when I was doing my research on money flowing into marco rubio's I found I started finding some smurfs there so funny enough he's making legislation to try and prevent it but he himself has Smurfs in the pile of money that comes in his coffers. Do you think that the candidates know about this? Or is it one of those things that it's an attack from without? Or what's your opinion on that? I would guess, and it's a guess, I would guess that most candidates, I'm sure there's exceptions, most candidates probably don't know that this exists. And most candidates... I just don't want to unaware of it. But once they become a member of Congress or a member of the Senate, I think they just it just seems to me natural that sooner or later they have to say, where's all this money coming from? And somebody is going to spill the beans saying, well, you know, this is the way it works here. But I think that indicates a reluctance on the part of Congress to do anything about the problem, because most and Most, probably all Democrats and most, I don't know, could be half, could be most Republicans are benefiting from this. So they're kind of dragging their feet. Keep in mind, I mentioned Marco Rubio in the Senate. There's Matt Gaetz in Congress. Almost two years ago, they both proposed legislation. And this bill, proposed bill, went to their, what do they call it, committee. It never came out of committee. So nothing was ever done. And I'm trying to explain why I think nothing was ever done. Pretty sad, yeah, because I think they're all in it to protect the power structure. There may be a couple of them that aren't, but mostly I see it's all about the money and the power structure. So they kind of cover for each other. I think so. Let's take a look at the next slide if we could. I think I went too far. There we go. This is kind of a summary of the next few slides. I am an engineer and I'm a pilot. Kind of makes me a numbers guy. Kind of makes me a bit of a geek, I suppose. And a cool guy because you're a pilot. Thank you. But I have poured over hundreds, if not thousands, of spreadsheets. And I'm somebody who likes to connect the dots. I'm somebody who I think I'm fairly good at pattern recognition. And when I was looking at patterns of donations to Governor Whitmer, I saw something which absolutely blew me out of the water. Back when I did this study, it was probably in twenty three. Can you go back to the slide there? Back when I did this study, it would have been in twenty three, but I was looking at data from basically all the donations that Gretchen Whitmer had received in her career. And it spanned a time span between nineteen ninety nine and twenty twenty two. And something happened right around twenty sixteen, twenty seventeen. and it just blew my mind and I'll read it right here it says the annual donation dollars increased about a hundred to one and the annual number of donors now this is per year the annual number of donors per year increased by a factor of two hundred and sixty five to one how is that humanly possible and then I noticed something else you could call it coincidental but I think it's more than that And that is that Gretchen Whitmer had her campaign pay a Democrat consultancy known as GMMB, twenty seven point four million dollars in that time in that that border time frame. So we have an a absolutely incredible increase in the number of donations and the dollar of donations. And I went and started doing some research on GMMB. And I started seeing that they had taken in hundreds of actually billions of dollars from the top Democrat candidates. And it was something and I'm speaking from my memory, but it might have been around nine hundred million for Obama. And the last couple of Democrat candidates, actually three, had had received somewhere in the vicinity of two or three billion dollars. in donations well in donations let me rephrase that all of these entities had paid gmmb massive amounts of money but they had received many times more it was almost as if and I'll go out and say it that there's a system that is involved in this massive money laundering where people will pay a number in this case twenty seven point four million dollars and receive many times that back from donors miraculously does that make sense it it it does but it doesn't you know what I mean it's like it's like how in the world did they come up with this I'm just reporting uh the data right I'm drawing my own conclusions but how what other kind of conclusions could you draw if the the donations of twenty seven point four million dollars to help run your campaign now in all fairness one of the things that gmnb will do is pay hundreds of thousands maybe millions of dollars for um tv advertising that kind of thing but I think with all the spreadsheets I've looked at I think that is one of the ways that money laundering is hidden from the public they show large amounts of money going out to an entity in this case we're talking about gmmb I saw a similar a similar llc in michigan that received several million dollars in this llc that helped getting people reelected in the state of michigan only was in existence seven or eight months how how questionable is that and the problem is if the money goes to an outfit like gmmb or an LLC in the state of Michigan, we do not have the ability to search those records. I mean, I can search all day and get all kinds of information from the FEC and michigan.gov, but I don't have the power or the ability to go into these and track the money, trace the money, and see if it was actually spent the way they said it was. And this is exactly where I think the fraud happens. Interesting. Next slide, please. Do you know any names that are associated with GMMB? You can look it up really easy. I have. I didn't memorize it. They've been in existence for probably fifteen or twenty years. They've been around a while, and they definitely helped Obama through all his campaigns. So once again, Just thinking about the time frames of what we're talking about, GMMB has probably been around fifteen to twenty years. ActBlue has been around twenty years and the FEC has been around forever. You can see that if my theories are correct, that this has been a long term situation. Does that make sense? Oh, yeah. Just to get a little more specific on Gretchen Whitmer's donations, just taking a look, and this is another aspect of her donations, and we're just talking about the twenty twenty two donations that she received and she reported to the Michigan Secretary of State. In-state persons had donated allegedly eight point seven million dollars to Gretchen. Out-of-state persons had donated seven point three million dollars. But as far as number of donors, there was more out-of-state persons that donated to Gretchen Whitmer in twenty twenty to the newer in-state. And that's the reason I highlighted the red. According to the MI.gov out-of-state persons, we had one hundred and one, almost one hundred and two thousand people donate to Gretchen Whitmer in twenty twenty two. But it was only eighty three thousand from in-state. To me, that smells pretty bad. Next slide, please. I've got to show you something I found here that's really kind of interesting. So I looked up GMNB, and check this out. I'm going to start here at the top. This is the team members. Right. And you've got, you know how you say you look at patterns? I do too. Check this out. We've got, let's see if you can see it on my phone. We have Allie. Allie, Allie, Allison, Allie, Allie and Allie. Isn't that odd? That wouldn't be good fodder for a conspiracy theorist. It's like, I went down here. Oh, and I missed Alison and Alyssa. We've got, we've got, yeah, it's just kind of an, that's kind of an odd thing to just pull right up and have it smack you in the face. You know, it is. That's odd. How many alleys? This is the alley organization clearly. But the four letters, GMMB, you will find four people whose last names begin with those letters. And those are the people that started, and for all I know, are still with GMMB. So it's been a long-term thing. This, once again, is the raw data that I'm referring to. But if you look at the donations between, say, You can see that it's a relatively small number of donors, mostly between, what, one hundred and five hundred. But then you start looking at the twenty seventeen and twenty eighteen through twenty twenty two and you see an ever increasing flow of the number of donors starting around sixteen thousand and winding up in twenty twenty two is one hundred and eighty five thousand donors. Now, these are all here. Keep that in mind. That's insane. It is. It is. So when I when I work out the numbers, the here it is down below. The average number of donors between ninety nine and twenty sixteen was two hundred and sixty five per year. And that jumps to seventy thousand four hundred and seven donors, which directly ties in. This is what I'm saying is happening directly ties in with that blue and the FEC pwning up phoning up donor information so that they can launder millions. And actually, we now believe was billions. I shouldn't go back. there I need to give credit to a guy named peter berninger he's from wisconsin I love peter you know peter yeah I know he's been on my show okay good so you know who and what he is yeah he is probably the king in this area I learned an awful lot from him over the years and I've worked with him on and off a few times and I just need to give this guy credit because You know, if I'm a two percent effort, he's a ninety eight percent effort guy on this subject. And he's he's got he's found financial backing to go out and create significant lawsuits. And he's making significant gains in the state of Wisconsin. And I also know to a lesser degree he's working with an election integrity outfit in Maryland, but I'm not familiar with them very well. So I just want to give Peter a lot of credit. He's amazing. Do you have any questions on this information on this line? Well, no, other than you can't look at this and say something is terribly wrong here. I'm curious to see, I would love to see the mechanism that the FCC or the FEC is involved in this, you know, what the mechanisms are exactly, how exactly they did it. Well, I would love to see that, too. And I'm hoping that someday there's some whistleblowers come out of the woodwork and explain it all to us. But I'm encouraged because Congress in the last several months has become more and more involved. I personally have composed two different letters basically on the same subject to James Comer and Jim Jordan. and in their capacity as chairman of the committees that they're on. And, uh, unfortunately I haven't seen any direct response, but I'd like to believe that the information made its way to them, at least in the form of supporting evidence of things they'd already heard. And, um, I've seen comments and I think toward the end of the slide presentation, if we get there, we might not, uh, we'll see where, uh, this is on their, uh, their agenda of things to come. Can we click forward? Yes, please. Once again, I was just trying to make a graphic comparison of the hundred to one increase in dollars and the two hundred and sixty five to one increase in the number of donors just to make it a little let people sink in. Sometimes some people can see a graph bar chart like this and means a little bit more. So it's just repeating the previous information in a different form. We can skip over this. We pretty much covered this. Next slide, please. Oh, I wouldn't skip this one. I was just bragging about being able to talk to the Gateway Pundit and Patty McMurray. They've reported on it and they were impressed with the research that I had done at that point. And people are becoming more and more aware of the massive money laundering. And the question is, what's going to tip the scales and get us to where we have some definitive action taking place? In my opinion... if and when justice occurs, we're going to see people from ActBlue and people from the FEC go to prison. This is very, very serious stuff. And it's contributed to America's decline in faith in their entire government. Yeah, all I want for Christmas is to see people prosecuted for their crimes. How's that? Ditto. Oh, this is interesting. I brought myself up to speed a little bit on this guy named Jolo. And he is a says he's a Malaysian financier, a businessman from Malaysia. And apparently he has embezzled four point five billion dollars from Malaysia, Malaysia. I mean, it's not the United States of four point five million as many times that, you know, in U.S. dollars, you might think. And apparently this investment fund known as one MDB was a fund that was set up to improve Malaysia. But here's a guy stealing money from it. And as I indicated briefly before, that Leonardo DiCaprio testified that this guy gave Obama twenty to thirty million dollars. And this goes back to a New York Post article back in twenty three. And I just recently tried to update my information and Interpol is looking for Jolo. And the word on the street is that he is a fugitive and there are generals in mayanamar I'm not sure I'm pronouncing it it's the old burma my myanmar myanmar they're hiding him so he's hiding out trying to avoid justice Years ago, I was doing a deep dig on Myanmar and the connection to child trafficking. It's pretty sad, especially with the shared border of China. There's a real problem there, a huge problem. So it would be consistent to use a nation that's already steeped in corruption for said activities. Right. Well, one good thing. good aspect is in the last few months I've read an article that indicated that and with the help of the United States DOJ approximately one point five billion dollars of that four point five has been returned to Malaysia wow so there is some good news out of this story You know, I think there's good people everywhere. We just have to look for them, and they'll float to the top eventually. Good always prevails over evil. I agree. Next slide, please. I've already covered this subject, at least in part, that both Rubio in the Senate and Matt Gaetz in the Congress have put forth legislation they both went to their respective committees. Unfortunately, nothing has happened yet, but the pressure is continuing. So we'll just have to wait and see, especially once we go into a more Republican friendly environment, uh, after January, and see if we start to get some traction out of this. And this is another example of what's taken place in the recent past where this great America PAC sues the FEC in court. And, uh, they identified Bloomberg laundering, eighteen million dollars to the DNC. And according to the lawsuit, that is five hundred times the legal limit of that, the allowed giving of a party. Next slide. And this is just another example of the subject coming to light. Apparently Mark Levin had reported on the money mules, we call them Smurfs, that had popped up back then and been identified giving to Obama slash Biden. Next slide, please. I won't take your time to go through this, but as a investigative reporter, um I have and I'm not sure the link is good anymore I had made an investigation of a lady whose name was jessica cordo I think it was and she's from garden city michigan and I went and knocked on her door and I made myself press credentials and everything because I am my own independent press source and what I found out was her dad came to the door and then her mother later on her mother did and what I found out was this jessica was actually a lady in her early thirties who had been terribly damaged in a car accident, like ten years prior. She had not worked in ten years and she hadn't made a dime. And I'm talking about a neighborhood was what you and I might call the lower middle class neighborhood was not well to do at all. So she's living at home with her parents. And according to the FEC, she had given something like I'm going to jump and paraphrase the numbers. I don't remember the numbers exactly, but it was something like twenty thousand dollars over two thousand separate donations. And when I asked her parents about this, they said it was it would have been totally impossible because she was broke. She was living at home with her parents. She had what they call TBI, traumatic brain injury. And this was just another case. This is the kind of reporting that, you know, James O'Keefe, he has done a lot of this reporting out there where they knock on doors of Smurfs and they find out that there's no way it actually happened. So that's one of the many ways that we were able to make the assertions that we're making. Next slide, please. We covered this already. I think we can skip that one. Okay, this is good to review. I just recently looked this up, and you can see that ActBlue has been around for twenty years, and they've raised somewhere between thirteen and fourteen billion, with a B, dollars. WinRed is much newer, it's only been around five years and they've raised between one and two billion dollars. Unfortunately, and it saddens me to have to say this, that there is corruption on the right side of the center line as well as the left. Well, and I think that this is, justifiably, we should all be very angry about this. that they are literally buying and selling our elections, the outcome of it. It's not for the people. It has nothing to do with our voice. There's so much money in this. I think it's hard for people to even fathom this. The donations that people make on an individual level do not matter. And I have been pretty much a person who's spoken out by keep your money. Do not donate to these political entities anymore. Put your time in. But stop all the donations because until we get a handle on this, we need to stop all donations. Just the same way as I feel about taxes right now. If I were governor, I would be postponing or stopping the taxes until we get a handle on it because most of them are illegal. I wish there was a way that we could take what you just said, especially the core of it. Cause you know, we talk about corruption. We talk about massive money laundering, but the real issue is that we have lost control of our government and we're waking up to that fact. Yes. And you know, I have no doubt in my mind that the United States of America was formed and succeeded because of our God, Jesus Christ. And, uh, You know, when the pilgrims first came across in sixteen twenty before they got to Plymouth, they stopped at Cape Cod while they were at Cape Cod. They wrote the charter. I think they call it the Mayflower Compact. And in the Mayflower Compact, they dedicate their mission to the glory of God and the furtherment of Christianity. And I think that is the core of why our country has been so great and so unique in its form of self-governance. And the sad fact is, as you just said, we have lost that. And that is a sin. I agree. And I'm going to paraphrase that again. And when you said how to fix this, well, Donna Brandenburg is for governor or as governor would have gotten in there and paused all taxes until we got this mess figured out. And there's a there's an elegant way to do that, quite honestly. But going back to that, everyone out there needs to stop giving donations to to Any of these political, the PACs, the PACs should be illegal. Any of the party stuff, it should be made illegal at this point in time because there's so much money involved in it. I just tell people, keep your money because they don't need it. The politicians and such have got unlimited funds that are coming from above or other people who know how to play the game. And all they're doing is trying to impoverish Americans so when it comes down to it, we won't be able to fight. And here's those numbers again, everybody. Thirteen billion dollars, thirteen point seven from ActBlue, one point four. And this is a nineteen from WinRed. That number has gone up substantially, I would expect. I agree. And my and once again, I have to say. I was not a great history student. I wish I was. If I had to do over again, I would have been much better. And I never took a course in political science. I'm an engineer and numbers geek. But that being said, it just seems logical to me that if we want to regain control of our government and understanding it takes a certain amount of money to run elections and campaigns, I should say. But I just see no reason to allow money flowing into campaign coffers that is from anything other than a constituent in your state. If you're running for an office in Michigan, I don't think money should come from anywhere outside Michigan, and I don't think money should come from uh, five Oh one C fours, five Oh one C threes, nonprofits, other packs. And there's a, there's a, as you know, there's a plethora of other kinds of packs out there, five, twenty sevens, et cetera. I don't think any of that money should be allowed because what happens, it takes control away from our government. And on a separate note, and I've written a whole article on this or chapter on this, when you look at the money that's controlled by the speaker of the house, Johnson, I have identified two hundred and fifty seven million dollars of money that has flown into the PACs that he controls to get congressmen reelected in U.S. Congress. And so when you donate your hundred dollars, maybe a thousand dollars to a congressman, are they going to pay attention to that? Are they going to pay attention to the huge numbers that flow into his reelection campaign? And I agree with that entirely. That's the basis of what's driving this whole mess. And I agree with that entirely. So when I say keep your money, your money as a person, as an American is not going to matter because they've got unlimited funds. that they get from these PACs, from corporate donors, and all that sort of thing. So if you really support a candidate, you should put your time into it because they need the hands-on. We can outperform them. We can't outspend them, but we can outperform them. And that's the only way we're going to win. And, you know, if we were able to magically succeed in restricting all of these donations to campaigns, it would shrink the size of the campaign coffers to such a small amount that the efforts of citizens when they go knock on doors and the efforts of independent journalists when they write articles that are seen by a small but select few would have so much more impact. Yeah, we're competing against a beast system that is basically funded by an oligarch economic based decision-making group of people, the global crime syndicate. That's what we're up against here. And they have, they have unlimited money. The more, more money than most people can even get their, get their arms around that they have access to. It doesn't, I've listened to the conversations. They'll talk about having a billion dollars here, a billion dollars there, there. I'm not a billionaire. So for me, I'm sitting here going, are you out of your mind? This is, this is, this is insanity, right? But that's another part of waking up that people have to come to grips with and realize we're going to have to absolutely stop playing this game with them and do something different. Or we're going to continue to get the exact same thing right now. The American people are under worse conditions than the middle ages serfdom, the dark ages. The people that were serfs in the dark ages had more time, more money and such than what Americans have right now. The conditions right now economically are worse. I couldn't agree with you more. I think we're above an eighty-five percent tax rate from what I calculate, and that doesn't even put in inflation. And it comes back to the money laundering in the campaigns, but it's not just the campaigns, it's through the government that they money launder out. But this is a huge part of it because we have no control of our elections with this system. Well, that's certainly true. So, I digress though. Can we take a look at the next slide? Sure. I love your stuff. I just got to tell you, I love your research. Thank you. These last several slides in here, I just did a basically copy and paste because I thought there was some interesting information in here. And I, I'm a firm believer in my research and going back to the source. So I've made some, you could call it negative statements toward the FEC. Let's see what the FEC itself says its own mission is. The FEC has jurisdiction over financing campaigns for the U.S. House, Senate presidency and the vice presidency. The FEC's mission is to protect the integrity of the federal campaign finance process by providing transparency and fairly enforcing and administering federal campaign finance. By my way of thinking and from what I've seen, and I'm talking about after looking at hundreds, maybe thousands of spreadsheets, they've totally failed this mission. It's unconstitutional. Pardon me? It's unconstitutional. Would you elaborate? The government is not supposed to be involved in elections if the elections come from we, the people, and the fact that they've got their finger in this at all should be absolutely struck from the record, abolished, and they should be put out of business immediately under Norton v. Shelby County, as well as the Chevron decision basically guts their power. But constitutionally, the government is not supposed to be involved in elections. It's supposed to be elections that are supposed to be conducted by we, the people. So any part of this they regulate is unconstitutional. It's a usurpation. Well, doesn't that – I think you and I have a bit of a disagreement at this point. But what you and I just said about regulating or limiting – maybe that's the word – limiting – the amount of money that can go into campaign coffers, but more importantly, limiting where it can come from. How do you do that without monitoring and checking and violating if that's the case? Well, clearly we've got a problem here. So I suppose that the constitution is, you know, requires or is based on a moral people and or moral processes. So at this point in time, we've got a, we've got a problem here, but In its purest form, it's unconstitutional. Well, I see your point, but I'm not sure how we succeed in obtaining an integrity. Yeah, well, it's a bigger question, but that's just an off to the side discussion, I suppose. But I understand what you're saying with this too, and it's a good discussion to have because we do have such a flaw of integrity by all sides right now. So anyhow. Next slide, please. So you're a fan of the FEC being able to monitor this then? Well, I'm saying that they say their mission is to monitor it and to police it and protect the integrity of it. And they're not doing it. So that's what we're saying here. Agreed there. OK. Now, this is what I'm going to call good news. These are these are what one to about five examples where interest is increasing and people are starting to. demand answers. The first one says Virginia Attorney General Jason Myers demands answers about suspicious donor activity on ActBlue. Mary Block alleges that ActBlue donations qualify as racketeering activity under Wisconsin law. Senator Ron Johnson, I really like that guy, he's from Wisconsin, says the Federal Election Commission appears to be oblivious to questionable campaign finance practices by ActBlue. Texas AG Ken Plaxton, we've all heard of him. He's demanding a DOJ investigation into ActBlue's dark money machine. And House Republicans have just recently, I guess it was last month, have subpoenaed the Democrat Party fundraising portal ActBlue over allegations of illegally funneling foreign money to campaigns. and I just saw something in addition to this which was like in the last few days but it's the same same general aspect where people are waking up and they're demanding that uh investigations happen and I know it's contrary to what recent history is but I think heads need to roll we need accountability more than anything I do too. And I think it's huge. And anyone who hijacks our election, I mean, it's not just election interference. It's not just election fraud or anything like that. This is treason. This is a matter of national security when we don't have free and fair elections. And that goes down to starting at the top and goes all the way through the process, in my opinion. The whole thing is kind of a dumpster fire. I touched on one of these, I believe. I just had a conversation a few days ago with Congressman, former Congressman Kerry Benavolio. And there were a couple of things we talked about, which I did not ask permission to talk about, and I won't talk about it. But these are two things that he gave me permission to quote him on. And the first one was that after he went to Congress, he learned about the massive money laundering that we're seeing in Act Blue through the FEC. And this other one is interesting, and I think it's very relevant, because when we talk about massive money laundering, one of the first questions that has to pop up is, well, if it's not coming from the money mules or the spurs, where is it coming from? And I think that we all suspect that this is true. But he verified it, at least from a verbal, yeah, that's true standpoint. And that is when we give money to foreign countries, somewhere in the vicinity of ten to twenty percent of that money is funneled back to campaign coffers here for domestic campaign funding in the United States. And I think we read so many articles on how the Pentagon has lost billions, maybe trillions of dollars, can't account for this and that. I think this is all part of it. And I really think that one of the reasons we love Trump is because we know he's an honest guy. We may not agree with everything he says or every policy he has, but he's not compromised. He's one of the few people in D.C., per se, that is not compromised. And he's promised to go after the deep state. Now, admittedly, when JFK made a similar statement, within two weeks, he was dead. And we're all praying that that doesn't happen to Trump. But if we stand a chance at getting accountability and getting some of these deep, dark, long-term problems fixed, I think he's our guy. He's our bet shot. Are you concerned about his health and safety? I know I am. Oh, yes, a hundred percent. My wife and I make a habit of praying every meal and we always include him in our prayers every time. He's done an amazing job for the United States of America. And, you know, I just hope and pray that he's okay. And have you noticed a lot of people have gotten crazier over time? Like they're so panicked about how things are right now that they go into crazyville very quickly. And, I mean, they're not in control of themselves. You mean on both sides of the fence? Yes. And all of a sudden the fighting starts and there's no actual logical discourse. I don't mean, you know, sometimes we can debate and we can have differences of opinion and I get it. And sometimes those get a little heated, but the craziness that goes on because people can't control themselves, they go into an emotional reaction. And I think that's part of the programming that we've had is to go into an emotional response when things don't go the way that we think they should go. And I think the only way you avoid that is by going to God and saying, okay, God, what's the reaction you want me to take in being the calm in the storm? I agree with your general statements. And I would say that one of the solutions is that those of us that are truly Christians need to do what we're supposed to do, which is trusting God. And it's not an on or off. It's not a binary choice. I think it's a gradual transition, at least it is with me. And I think I'm slowly, and here I am, seventy-four years old, I think I'm slowly getting better at that. And when I find myself starting to get worked up, anxious, angry, I always try and push myself back to trusting in God, and it calms me down. That's good. Sometimes that's a really good way to go is to be that cow in the storm. And then there's some times that you go all cowgirl on them and get your boots on and start kicking the crap out of everything out there. And let's go. So, all right, let's take a look at the next one here. This is a further, I should say, expanding of one of the previous charts we've seen. But I would submit that in a general way, this is proof or at least an indicator of proof that the money laundering that has taken place through the FEC and through ActBlue has really ramped up since twenty sixteen. And I'm not sure if I have it in front of us here or maybe it might be the next one. If you look and see, let's just look at some of the numbers based on the graphs. In two thousand eight, two thousand twelve, two thousand sixteen, the Democrat campaign spending was pretty close to two billion dollars. I think it ramps up to two point three billion dollars in twenty sixteen. All of a sudden it ramps up to more than eight billion dollars in twenty twenty. And I've seen other charts that indicate that the kind of spending that took place in twenty twenty also took place in twenty twenty four. So it would be logical to ask yourself, what is it that that tremendously increased the campaign spending for the Democrats between twenty six? Well, two thousand eight through two thousand sixteen versus twenty twenty and twenty twenty four. And I would submit that the type of mass money laundering that we have observed is there. In fact. It's on both sides, though. I mean, you can look at the uptick on both sides, which should be really concerning. I want everybody to think about this. Can you imagine if we did not have that kind of money put into this industry of psychopaths that are out for themselves to find a way to make money off donations and money laundering? How much we could do for the average everyday person? It would be incredible. You stop the laundering to Ukraine and all this stuff. The standard of living in the United States of America would be the gold standard. I'm fast-forwarding through our slides here because there's something that I think will help prove our point. Okay. If you could fast-forward through several slides, there's one that says Michigan elected officials suspected of receiving illegally laundered money at the top, and then it's kind of a chart. There's donations. Keep going. Next one, I think. Okay. This is part... you know for those of us that are good with pattern recognition I think this is going to go a long ways toward helping explain what I see and what I'm saying is some degree of proof of the money laundering we're seeing I've looked at these smurfs that have given to people in Michigan. Now, we're talking about people in the Michigan Executive Branch as well as Congress, as well as U.S. senators. Now, the people in the Michigan Executive Branch, to get the information, you have to go to mi.gov. To get the data from Michigan congressmen and U.S. senators, you have to go to the fec.gov. But I think that it would be impossible for this to have accidentally happened. and one of the bigger donors here is hannah banks of massachusetts uh do you see where she has given to governor whitmer and benson and a.g nestle and uh and I'm having trouble seeing my own graph here angle slot can yeah keep going across uh Stevens, Tlaib, and that's Tlaib right there. Then over here. By the way, Sri Thanadar, every time I've looked at money in his coffers, it pretty much just comes, he's self-financed. Who's that? That's why you don't see the X's under him. But then you've got the U.S. senators that are Democrats. This person gave the both. Now, if you take, let's just fast forward to the next page. because I think this is dramatic. Look at Hannah Banks of Massachusetts. Allegedly, and I use the word allegedly with big quotes, she has given two hundred and sixty five thousand dollars over the course of over nine thousand donations. But the average donation is less than twenty nine bucks. This is what I'm talking about. These are these are the these are some of the bigger examples of corruption, of smurfing, if you will. It didn't happen. But this is what the FEC and ActBlue wants you to believe. But they also don't think that there's anybody nerdy enough like me to go through thousands of spreadsheets to find it. Oh, they underestimate the weaponized autism, quite honestly. Pardon? They underestimate weaponized autism. It's a term of endearment. It's like people get in and we'll study and study until we get the last shred of evidence on any subject that we're working on. It took a lot of digging to come up with this data. I can't even imagine. That being said, these are twenty three spurs. And as you can just look at the humongous numbers of the dollars and the number of donations. Look at the total. Know that this this never happened. Right. Look at the total. You know. This is this is so fake. Look at this. And Betty Fielder of Rhode Island, two hundred five thousand dollars of thirty five thousand donations and eight dollars and six cents a donation oh I'm sure she's sitting there just tapping the donation like crazy to get up to that number of thirty five thousand donations I'm so sure that's happening you know some sometimes when you look at these numbers and you look over the span of time in which they allegedly gave this money it's like they sat there and made thirty five donations a day you know it's just it's ridiculous and uh it kind of amazes me that it's taken us uh Twenty years, twenty years of ActBlue and the FEC allowing this to take place before it's coming to light in a serious manner. They have to be in on it together. I mean, there's no way that if they didn't know it, if the FEC didn't know it, then they are absolutely a failure. Anybody that failed this badly should be fired, right? And if they did know about it or if people within there were getting kickbacks, which I hate to say it, I'm very suspicious because you would have to turn, you would really have to turn a very, very, intentional blind eye to allow this kind of thing to go past. And they had the information. Well, that's precisely why I say in all seriousness that the FEC is complicit. Yes. Well, you know, when you, when you break the law, it's not a, it's not an excuse. You know, if you broke the law and they're allowing this stuff, you know, the identity theft to happen and they, you know, it doesn't take, it's right there. And they had the information. They're complicit or they're at least guilty. Now, if you could back up a slide or two. Sure. This data relates to this page right here. We're talking about the percent of out-of-state donations. Once again, I'm making assumptions. And my assumption is that the fake donations, the smurf money, the money mules, directly relates to the out-of-state money that you show when you analyze the data that way. And there's Rashida Tlaib at ninety three percent of all the money in her campaign coffers in this case for twenty twenty two was out of state. And you see the Democrats are much higher than the Republicans, but some of the Republicans are poking their percentages up there. I've met the guy and I like the guy. When you look at John James, it's hard not to be fair and show that he's got a high percentage of out-of-state money. And in the report, and this is one of my chapters in my work, I show, I think it was three specific Smurfs that I can point to that were giving what I'm going to call fake money. or real money, but from fake sources to John James. So it does exist on both sides of the fence, but to a much greater degree on the Democrat side of the fence. And probably to be fair, one of the reasons is going to be is that ActBlue's been doing this for twenty years, but WinRed's only been doing it for five. I'd like to see the twenty four results on this. This would be really interesting. That's a commitment. yeah that's a commitment but I I guess uh as a reporters um I have an obligation to the truth I have an obligation to integrity and in my own heart and mind it would be wrong to report on the massive uh fraud on the democrat side without mentioning that some of that does exist on the republican side Well, that's real journalism. It's free and it's balanced and you present the information out there so that, you know, I can tell you, you know, it's like I'm friends with a lot of different people out there, but that doesn't mean that I'm not going to call them out when they do something wrong. Because this are to your point, our allegiance is to God almighty. And, you know, you give people a chance to do the right thing and to turn things around. You give them a chance. But if they refuse to turn around and they continue to do the unlawful and or unethical things, you can't cut them any slack, even if they're friends. They they've got to get on the right side. People have to be on the right side or they are against this nation and they are against God. And I don't care what title they hold or, or who they are. We need to be working together to do the best thing for the United States and for the world that God made. I mean, this is his world, his sandbox. Well, I agree a hundred percent. And I would be the first to admit that, uh, it seems to me that I have lost quite a few friends in the political sector and, uh, I'm not going to go out and, uh, dirty up their names or anything like that. But when you find somebody who doesn't always pursue what you consider to be integrity, fairness, justice, I think you naturally kind of back away from increasing that friendship. Am I saying that correctly? Yeah, you're cutting people a little bit of slack because it's on political differences. And, you know, I think that that's the way we should be, is be able to honor each other with having a difference of opinion of things, being able to sit down and talk about them and resolve those as a family would, really, as a family. But when it comes to the law, that's a hard and fast line. That's the difference between a country that's based on laws or based on men. And the United States is based on laws, not on men. It's not supposed to be a political, you know, it's not supposed to be a popularity contest. It's supposed to stay within the law and vote in the people who have the best chance of getting that done. Because that will stay within the law and constrain. It's a constraint of the government. I agree. Yeah. Well, I think that's pretty much all I've got, but if you would allow me to put in a brief plug, I would encourage people to go to my website. Here, let me pull it up. I'll make it easy for you. How's that? Okay. I would encourage people to go to my website because I have, as I think I previously indicated, I've composed and researched something on the vicinity of seven hundred and forty seven pages and one hundred and twelve hundred and thirteen chapters I've basically donated um much of my free time in the last three or four years and putting this this volume of work together regarding michigan's corruption by the way there is an s in the middle it's michigan's plural corruption.com so it's pretty simple michigan.com And I would encourage you to visit it. And you can click on each chapter individually or you can download the whole work as a unit. And I think if you were to download everything, I think it's something like seventy five megabytes. So better have somewhere to store it. Well, and I want to show everybody what what you've actually done here, because this this is just crazy how much work you've done, Bob. I mean, and just amazing and crazy in an amazing way really is. So these are the chapters in here. There is so much in here. You know, you've got people called out in here, which I think that we should call people out for when things are not exactly right. And, you know, we've got Uniparty, we've got Campaign Finance, we've got the, what is it, Parfait family? Parfait, yeah. Parfait or Parfait? Is it Parfait? Okay. Uniparty, you're pretty balanced because you go after the Uniparty and wonder why your state refs and senators never listen to you. The game is rigged. Lack of transparency. Where to report fraud in Michigan and to the FBI. Possible quid pro quo in Rich's schloss deck. By thirty five million dollars. There is people are being called out here. Jocelyn Benson rewrites election law to impede transparency and enable fraud. I found several of those when I was reading the the MCL as well as there's other places I found more how Michigan S.O.S. Jocelyn Benson is aiding in the election fraud. We talked a little bit about Gilbert and Ross and the connections. Gilbert and Ross are tied in with Ron Weiser. And we've seen those connections. And they're all tied in with Jocelyn Benson. When you see there was like two five million dollar donations that I believe that went through Wayne State University and magically disappeared. that property that was supposed to go to Ron Weiser, all of a sudden became the property that they're going to put the World Economic Forum headquarters on. It's pretty damning when you see that flow. And Ron Weiser, allegedly Republican, is part of the Atlantic Council. I do not claim in any way, shape, or form to be an expert on this degree of world politics. But when you understand that the World Economic Forum is creating a regional center in Michigan, specifically Detroit, some of these other things begin to make sense. Yes. You know, some of these huge donations to the functions of the center in Detroit that we know are basically an extension of the World Economic Forum in Detroit, Michigan. It all begins to make sense, but it is such a huge picture that I don't claim to see the whole thing. but I'm becoming aware of it. I can see those connections because I've been studying those for years with the developers that when you start looking at the developers, and this is a beef I have with developers in general, is that most of it's funded by foreign money. And so when you watch the townships vote them in, And I had a run in with Byron Township a few weeks ago and I said, why is this any different than you are listening to to none of the constituents here, but you just rubber stamped it? And this is like a foreign developer. What is this different than than doing business with China? You're literally doing one of the one of the councilmen, Tom Hooker, actually sat there and he shook his head. Yes. When I was articulating this to them. because clearly they did not understand that they in one stroke violated their oath of office and did not protect the interests of the residents. I said, you should make them post a ten million dollar bond because there was enough questions that would merit it. If we went in as somebody who is an owner of a pipeline company and did critical infrastructure, we have to post bonds and they're large bonds. So why they're not requiring the developers to do the same thing is outside of my realm of comprehension unless somebody's getting a kickback along the way. Because where are the contracts going to? Are they all friends? That's the things that I want to ask. Why is it that they allow them to build and not cover the critical infrastructure, which is going to have to be upgraded, like schools and water and sewer and traffic and the roads, all of this? No, they just take their money and they leave. So those are all of those mechanisms that we have to watch. Same thing with the World Economic Forum coming into the state of Michigan. When you look at where the money trail went on that one, the money trail is very clear. It's two five million dollar donations. that went through Wayne State University, was supposed to go to Ron Weiser for, you know, to a building in his name and such. And all of a sudden he steps down and the World Economic Forum gets that land. And it passed through the hands of Whitmer, Nessel and Benson. Benson was a key player here. And when you see what Benson's been involved in, she's got the Lantern Award from the Kennedy Foundation. They're pointing out exactly who was involved. You sometimes just like Robert Kennedy said, he said, hang a lantern on your problem. That's exactly what they did. So when we look at those, you can see exactly who is involved with what, how they're doing it. And and following the money is actually, you know, it's like both you and I are nerds. OK, so I mean, we both have different knowledge, different direction. But I mean, this is this your your your chapter here, which I need to go through, which I'm going to go through it. And it's this one right here. You've got the DeVos was in it to win, but didn't. That's got to be probably the Tudor Dixon part right there. But also you've got the donations of the DeVos and the Weiser families. If you have not looked at this stuff, guys, you're going to have a real education on how we've got about twenty two oligarch families in the state of Michigan that you can look up and I can give you the names of them, but how they're literally buying the elections, the state of Michigan. and that's the problem that's the base problem we have is we've lost faith in our our government because they're not doing our bidding our what we want and the reason they're not doing is because of all of this massive money that's flowing in and it seems logical to understand that the reason the money is so important is because we have one of the reasons and we haven't touched on this is we have a full-time legislature well most states do not have a full-time legislature I would submit that if you have a part time legislature, you have responsible, successful adults that have gotten themselves to such a financial point and secure point in their living that they don't have to receive a medium to large size salary in order to support their family. Well, if they are not relying upon the state of Michigan in this case to support their family, they can make decisions without being unduly influenced by whether or not the oligarchs are going to fund them their re-election campaign yep here you go you've got your holders and contractors there's your developer link right there and then you can go up here farther eastbrook homes developer and uh yeah these are things that we look at very that I look at very carefully because I'm looking for those patterns too Interesting. We haven't touched on this, but if you take a hard look, a hard, honest look at what's happened since Michigan became a full-time legislature, we have steadily lost population as a function of the size of the United States. In nineteen sixty, we had nineteen congressional districts. We currently have thirteen congressional districts. In nineteen sixty three, I believe it was, we got a new constitution that gave us a full time legislature and that population relative the size United States has gone steadily down ever since. And it appears to be continuing, if not increasing in the loss. You know what, that Constitution should also be struck from the record too because it was unlawfully installed. They didn't have the vote. So as per the Constitution, they didn't have the number of votes to actually make a change to that, but they installed it anyway. And so that's another one that's going to have to be struck because when you look at that Constitution, things like that came into play then. So if we were to go to nullification, which is what really needs to happen and to start nullifying things, you could go right, right back and nullify it back down to where we get the government cut down to what it was supposed to be and disable them would tie their hands with their money laundering that way. Most people didn't know, don't know that. Well, I'm the first to admit, um, I'm not a lawyer and, uh, my ability to understand some of these upper level concepts is, uh, limited, shall I say? I don't know. I think you've got a pretty good handle on it, but it's kind of, I'm, I'm helping to always educate everybody that are, that's out there listening to it because some people don't know that. And so, you know, then you've got nerd researchers like yourself and myself who spend hours and hours going through things so that we can expose the truth. And I always love that. Well, you know, God has been very good to me and, uh, He's granted me a great wife. He gave me a great career. My wife and I are not what you'd call wealthy, but we're doing fine. And I don't have a need to go out and make more money or earn more money or pay more taxes. And I'm just grateful for what I've got. And I believe that in the last several years, I've been called to do this kind of research. And if there's one phrase that I hope you would associate with me, it's shine a light on truth. I love that. Well, I'd like to have you back on again, Bob, and maybe we can pick another subject because the facts that you put out there and the data, it's like Jonathan Kegel. This is amazing. And I can't even imagine the time that you put into this. It's wonderful. Ask my wife. She'll tell you. Yeah, I'll bet she would. I'll bet she's got all of those hours in her mind that she knows that you put into this. And thank you. What's your wife's name? Christine. Christine. Well, thank you to Christine too. It's always a family. When we look at people that have gotten involved in the political process, it's amazing how much sacrifice people put in. And it's not just them, it's their families that stand with people, stand behind them and enable them to do the work that's getting done. And so thank you to Christine and all the families out there. That's wonderful. Thank you. And God bless you for what you do. Yeah, and thank you. You're certainly going a long way to shining a light on truth with this network you have. Well, thank you. And I'm a little ornery about it. You know, I really am. I'm like, totally. If you could say one thing, I'm like, I'm totally sick of this. You know, as a CEO and somebody who wouldn't put up with this kind of nonsense, I would be the one coming in going, boom, everybody out of the pool type thing. You know, I've used that. That analogous to what God's going to do when he comes back here and sees the nonsense on the word. God's going to step on this guy and go, everybody out of the pool. It's going to be a bad day. But that's how I feel. It's like I see all of this stuff and kind of like mom. I've got that mom energy. It's like, y'all better start playing nice and do the right thing here or mom is not going to be real happy and stuff's going to happen. And whether it's within office or outside of office, that doesn't matter for me. I never wanted the title anyway. I just wanted my country back. So, yeah. But we, the people, have all the power. We just have to continue to fight and wield that power. And, you know, that's my commitment, too. It's like I work for free here on this and interview people. And I give up probably at least six, seven hours. I give up probably six to seven hours every single day, every single day. And that doesn't include a lot. That doesn't include researching. That doesn't include talking to people and scheduling people. That's just getting things out there, promoting things. Cause it's like, this is Donna Brandenburg, the interviewer, and this is Donna Brandenburg, the assistant, you know? And so, but I'm sure you're the same way. I mean, all of us that are in this fight, I don't know if people understand how much the, people like you have given to put the time into it and how much we really need to honor your work by passing this on and getting it in front of people so they know this beast system that we're actually up against right now what is this b system where can we understand you know if we're if we're trying to re reverse this we need to know what it is the enemy that we're fighting what is the enemy where are they who are they so we can disable them and I'm not talking you know grab your torches and pitchforks I'm talking in a very legal uh tactical way? How do we tie their hands so they can't do any more damage? How do we remove them and remove them permanently from ever those all those questions need to be asked. And it's people like you that provide the data and have been fighting so long to back up to back things up into continuing the fight. And I just got to say, you know, from the bottom of my heart, thank you for everything you do and that you've done. It's amazing. Well, thank you very much. And if I could just tack on what we're talking about here is problem solving. And I think that most people would agree. I mean, there's lots of pathways, there's lots of books been written on the subject, but I think everybody might agree that the first two steps of problem solving is a, what is admitting you have a problem and B defining the problem. I see that as my role. I don't pretend to have all the answers. I'll suggest answers. One of the ones I've suggested is go back to a part-time legislature. But my job really is to show that A, there is a problem and B, help define what the problem is. I love that. Well, we always end with a prayer. Would you like to pray or would you like me to? I'd like you to. Okay. Dear Heavenly Father, thank you so very, very much for Bob and for all the wonderful people that have chosen to step forward and tell the truth, such as Sheila and Rob who are on today. We ask your blessings upon each and every person. And we're so thankful that you're guiding us and you're leading us every step of the way in this battle that we're in. There's no two ways about it. We are in a battle, but it's your battle. You call us and you equip us and you give us the opportunity to do things which sometimes are difficult that brings us closer to you because the goal is we want to be like you. We want to grow to be more like you and you know the process, you know where we all are and we all have a ways to go to become better and help us to give each other grace and stand together as one human family as we walk through this process, but also call out those people who are a clear and present threat to the innocent and innocent lives who have been destroyed by this terrible, terrible system that we have right now. We ask that you lead us to go back to what worked at the beginning of our country, the pure form of the Constitution and the ability to uphold everyone's rights, to defend the rights given by you. We are thankful for that. We are thankful for everything you gave us, and we know that it's going to just take a little bit of maintenance. So please help everybody as we go through this. Give them peace and calm. Help them to get a hold of their emotions and see how their emotions have been manipulated so that they sometimes don't do the right thing. Help us to stay focused on you in all things. And we're just so thankful for you, for everything you've given us. Thank you for our food. Thank you for our families, our friends, our pets, and all those wonderful gifts that just make our hearts sing and be filled with joy. The most of all is our walk with you and the fact that you've given us our wonderful Savior, Jesus Christ, your only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him will not perish, but have everlasting life. And you gave him to us because you love us enough that you don't ever want to see us alone, but you want to have that relationship with us. And I thank you for that. I thank you for loving us and walking with us. and talking with us and showing us the way. Help us to listen to you. Help us not to be on our own path, but be on yours, because it's the greatest honor just to be able to do the things that you ask us to do, and nothing more is asked. We're not looking for another reward. We just want to serve you here on this earth. Thank you for being a great friend to us. We want to be a friend to you. In the name of Jesus Christ, we pray. Amen. Amen. So we're at that part of the show, boys and girls, where ding, ding, ding, ding, go to BrandonBurkeForGovernor.com because I'm the best non-conceited that's ever not conceded in the history of the United States of America, and I want to have a discussion with the rightful president of the United States, President Donald J. Trump, about that in cowboy boots. So we're going to do that someday. So tomorrow, let's see, who do I have on tomorrow? You know what? I have the whistleblowers back on. Our feed was attacked on Tuesday. So it's the whistleblowers that have come out to speak out on – the cult of Ammon Hillman. And it is shocking. We couldn't get on because the attack was on the channel. And we sat there and we talked afterwards, just openly about this. And there's some things that I, even though I believe in free speech, I will not be able to put out on the internet. on what was said or what has been said by this demonic vile individual. It's all about pedophilia and it's about grooming people in order to accept that this is normal, to normalize pedophilia. This is going on at the end of the day. We're all going to have to pull up our big girl and big boy panties and realize what is really behind all of this that we're facing. It is a spiritual war that we are on. For some reason, the children are the goal of what's running behind the scenes. The United States of America pays more for children than any country on the planet in the largest human trafficking organization, bar none, is CPS. So with that said, we're going to look at the stated goals of this cult, which is part of it. It's not all of it. and their normalization, I can put every bit of evidence out there and see what they said. And quite honestly, what they have said against Jesus Christ, our Lord and Savior, is so shocking that I walked away from that conversation absolutely sick to my stomach. So some of this is going to be on tomorrow's show. I'm not going to show every bit of it because I'm not going to give these psychopath child traffickers a venue to spew their vile, vile misleading message. It is horrifying, absolutely horrifying. So with that said, we love you all. Remember, God's in control. He's allowing these things to happen. He's allowing this to, he knows what's going on. It's not like he's in the dark, no more than, you know, President Trump's not in the dark either. There's a plan here. We just have to remember to continue to walk and do the right thing even if nobody else does. We're supposed to do the right thing. With that said, God bless you all. God bless everyone that you love and God bless America. Choose to do the right thing. If you don't have a good example, be one. If you see something wrong, don't fail to speak up. If you see something, you have to say something and esteem God's approval of you more than men's and more than the people around you. You have to do the right thing because the only one that has the ability to take you to task for it is God. We're here to stand for God and that's it. Whatever he tells us to do, he the boss and we're going to follow what he wants done. Stay on the line, Bob. We're going to end and then hopefully I'll see you guys all tomorrow. It should be a really interesting show. Have a great day. and be a force of good in this world.