Published June 8, 2026, 9 a.m.
9am Vicky Davis - The Technocratic Tyranny The United Nations as an organization is world communism. The strategy to impose world communism on the people of the United States (and the other countries in this hemisphere) has been economic rather than military as the people were led to believe it would be. It's our own leaders who were the Pied Pipers leading us to this demise of the U.S. I'm working on a timeline that shows the who, when and what. 10am Karen the Riveter - news and encouragement 11am Renita Bonadies - Accountability for ethical behavior at a local level. local action positive involvement to hold public servants to fiscal responsibility and ensuring they represent those they have sworn an oath to protect. X/Twitter: https://x.com/i/broadcasts/1OxwbbPpXbRJB Rumble: https://rumble.com/v7azfgc-bnn-brandenburg-news-network-682026-technocratic-tyranny-karen-renita-local.html https://rumble.com/v7azfe4-bnn-brandenburg-news-network-682026-technocratic-tyranny-karen-renita-local.html BNN Live: https://Live.BrandenburgNewsNetwork.com Guests: Donna Brandenburg, Vicky Davis, Karen the Riveter, Renita Bonadies
Good morning and welcome to Brandenburg News Network. I am Donna Brandenburg and it's the eighth day of June, twenty twenty six. Welcome to our show today. Today we have three guests on today. Nine o'clock. Vicki Davis with the technocratic tyranny. We're talking about all sorts of things that led to where we are today. with kind of like the global takeover of the United States. And then after that, it will be nine o'clock. Karen, the Riveter is going to be joining us. David's not feeling too well right now. So please pray for him. My friend that's from Canada, who has been very significant in the Alberta independence movement. And then at eleven o'clock, Renita, I think I can't even remember her name, Bonadice, is going to be on. I'm going to have to not spell, pronounce it. I'll have to have her correct me today. She's going to be on talking about townships and also how they're cheating the system in both townships, the school boards, the processes, what we should be looking for and how to take our townships back at the local level. So immediately, let's see, let's bring on Vicki this morning. I do not have enough coffee in my system this morning, Vicki. Yep, I understand that. Yeah. So how was your weekend? Very uneventful, thankfully. Well, we worked on a project to replace the top of our deck, which needed to happen. And so yesterday was a wonderful work day, a lot of progress, and it just felt really good to get that done. So lots of work and such. At any rate, so I had a call this morning from a friend of mine who, a very good friend of mine, and we were talking about NGOs and how the NGOs have been really, you know, the nonprofits, NGOs, etc., have been really the way that they have money laundered. away from we the people and not serve the people, but actually weaponized the nonprofits and the NGOs and such. And it's very extensive. It's more extensive, I think, than what most people really understand how they set this up. And I know you've got a lot of information on this also. Yeah, I do. I spent quite a bit of time on the NGOs and mostly because of Casey Whalen up in Northern Idaho. And he's the one that really got me started looking at them. There was an organization in Idaho called the Western States Center. And they were actually political manipulators, you know, and basically keeping score on what you could consider to be the conversion of the United States, in particular the Northwest, into a communist system. They were basically monitoring everything that was going on in the Northwest. And they were... connected with the Southern Poverty Law Center, of course. And it's an entire, the NGO system is part of the system which really was designed to subvert the sovereignty of the United States, melding it into the North American Union. You know how the organization of Europe is. You've got the individual countries, but sitting on top of them is the European Commission. And it's really the European Commission that's like the Parliament of Europe. So actually, what you just said is kind of interesting to me, is that the United States was already a union probably before the EU started. Undeclared, though. It could be. I'd have to think about that. I know that when the, it was about, about, when the Organization of American States was established under the United Nations. and under the united nations system and they never really talk about this in the media there are like five regional organizations the organization of the american states for the americas and then the european union european commission for the european union and there are three other regional organizations under the UN system. And that's really the way they set this up for world governance. And it's funny, you know, when I first learned about, well, what kicked us off, number one, was the treaty that Ronald Reagan signed with Mexico in nineteen eighty three. And the La Paz Treaty, right? Yeah. And Canada jumped in with the Montreal Protocol. which had to do with air quality, which brought environmentalism into it. And that was a treaty. So they've been piecing together these treaties, but never explaining to the public what they're about and what the effects are of participation in these treaties. Well, you know, to your point, you look at all the proposals on the ballots, all of the things that they've done. They're trying to keep people in the dark. Look at the you know, look at what happened with nine eleven. And, you know, it's like it's like everything they've done is to add surveillance, to add to add complexities to. poison us with a food to take over these systems. And I don't think that most people ever get to the core of what's going on. They just see it as a personal threat right now in the moment. But the structures underneath it are what the problems are. That's how I see it. Am I correct? Yes, that's how I see it, too. And the reason I supported Trump to begin with was because he promised he would get us out of NAFTA. Well, he didn't do it. And that's at the point when I just quit voting, period. You're just all done with them, huh? Yeah, a whole lifetime of voting for people based on what they promised they were going to do that they never do. And when I first started researching, people thought I was making it up that there was such a thing as the NAFTA agreement. And that we had basically opened borders with Mexico. And because they never heard of this. One guy was even an employee of the government. He was an employee of the Department of Interior. He was my dad's cousin. And he worked at the Bureau of Indian Affairs. He never heard of it. He thought I was making it up. You know, and when you have somebody like that, they're working for government and they don't even know what the government is doing in terms of the sovereignty of our country and the sovereignty of the American people. That's when you know you're in real trouble. You know, and so I've spent all these years, you know, trying to prove to people that what I'm saying is true. That's why I accumulate documentation and I post the documentation. I don't write articles. I write documentation. And so, and that's what, what I've been doing all these years. Well, if you document rather than just having it based on opinion, then people can just look at the facts and make up their own minds. And I find that to be very valuable. Oh yeah. I mean, you can't, uh, I remember things that people told me that I didn't believe because all they had was their opinion. They didn't have any documentation. And as a systems analyst, you have to prove everything. Prove it or disprove it, one or the other. And so that's why I've taken pains to do that. The most recent dialectic, of course, was COVID. That was a major one because what they were trying to do was to put us under the public health system. Well, the public health system is separate from our medical system. The public health system is already international. under the United Nations. I think the public health system was actually created by the World Health Organization. And so those are the two strategic battlefields where the UN is trying to take control of our country, which is through the environment and through public health. If they control the environment, that's where we live. If they control the territory and then through the public health system, they control us as persons. And look at all the other, the way that companies have monetized this too. know when when you look at these surveillance and trying to i don't know they're documenting us i mean every single person has got a folder on them and they know what we've done from pretty much forever right that they've documented things so you know you look at the health system and then watch and me jumped onto this and wanted our genetics and started documenting our dna dna and such And, and nobody put the brakes on this or not. I can't say nobody. There were some of us that were screaming from the rooftops. Don't do it. Just don't do it. This is a bad idea. And then all of a sudden it's tied into, you know, Zucker, Zuckerberg, the, the terrorist and, and uh you know and all the other stuff going on and people still did it just like with the with the shots it's so i had this i have this guy that i'm i just met and been talking to i find him really interesting he is a molecular um electro molecular scientist i can he sees he he builds molecules okay and he also is the only one that reverse engineered the covet shot And what he said is that it's not a biological weapon. He said the people in Wuhan were just laughing about this and the people over in Asia because they knew the bat story was absolutely bullshit. But he said it is a chemical weapon, and he's got the receipts to prove it. Oh, that's awesome. Yeah. Yeah, and really extensive documentation for this. Yeah. Yeah, I watched that pretty closely, followed it pretty closely, because they put the entry point of the Wuhan virus in Washington state. A guy supposedly came back from China. He got sick, went to a doctor. They did some tests on him. reported it to the CDC. And that's when the, at least according to the stories that I found. There's a lot of stories though. I mean, look at the Olympics were going on and you had athletes that were flying back and forth and everywhere. I mean, it could be a million different ways that it got here, in my opinion. And I'm not sure if we're ever going to know the truth. I mean, I think the truth is, is that it was developed in the United States, shipped overseas because Obama didn't want this thing out in, you know, have the origin to be here so they can make up all sorts of lies over there. And because we've got fake news brokering all the information, then there is no way to check it, you know. You can't make this stuff up. I mean, I'm not smiling because I'm happy. I'm just like going, who does this stuff, you know? Right. People that are at war with us, with the American people. They want to kill us. They want us gone. That's the way it is. It's the same thing that happened in every civilization. They go after the farmers. and they go after people who are actually innovators or the people that are in the know of what they did, they usually take them out. Well, what I found is that Tennessee actually was the first state to declare an emergency. Really? They did it like four or five days ahead of everybody else. Well, what's in Tennessee? Oak Ridge National Laboratories. Okay, this is interesting. It's the first time I've heard this. Oh, really? Yeah. Yeah. Oak Ridge, of course, is the center where the atom bomb was put together. They were the laboratory – I think it's run by the Department of Energy, which makes sense because in the building of the system of control for genetic engineering, it was the Department of Energy and NIH that signed a memorandum of understanding to work together to develop the human genome database. And what they were doing initially was that they were just, it was an open database that anybody could contribute to. And they weren't trying to hide it at all. And I think a big part of that was because they didn't think that any of us regular people out here would be doing research, would find the database, would see what they were doing, and would rebroadcast it out to other people. The peasants. To the peasants, yeah. I think they... They were arrogant enough to think that they would be the only ones that would understand. Well, ultimately what happened, they had to shut down that genome database and they moved it up to Toronto, Canada and, you know, shut it down here. And I think there have been some members of Congress that have been trying to shut down that research ever since. But they really can't because data moves at the speed of light. And the fact that they can have one data center in Toronto, but it can be mirrored in fifty other places. Well, think about all the other state hacking. entities that are out there. I mean, all of the, all of the countries, whether they're a real country or proxy country, you know, they, they probably have all that information. They're never going to start in one spot because they're all working together. One great big happy globalist transnational crime family Which is at war with all of us. And it's just the pieces that you see once you start putting these pieces together, you realize that this is an enormous, enormous amount of people, bigger than we could have ever imagined before. bigger than we could ever have imagined that they are. And the really sad thing is it reaches down into our communities, our townships, our school boards, all that sort of thing. People do not realize how big this is. When I was talking to one guy last week, he said that there's over a million intelligence operatives that work within the United States. Now, I want you to think about this. I want you to think about this truly, that they originate from the United States. And he's real big on the fact that the CIA is involved in so much manipulation out there. It's our own government that's committing a lot of the crimes. Not the good guys, but there's an internal battle going on here. But I really do think that we won. I think that had it not been for significant people involved, such as General Flynn, et cetera, and Donald Trump. I know a lot of people don't like Donald Trump, but if you look at what is being done instead of the person, I think that there's some infiltration going on, that they had to infiltrate the bad guys in order to take them down. Now, I know we're kind of, in disagreement on that. But it's just like ISIS. I know we had infiltrators into Antifa, into all of these other social disruptor organizations. And you can only do that if you're a really good spook and you can get in there and play the game with them so that you can see and get information. And then when the time comes, you take it all down. I don't know if I told you this, but when I had Patrick Burns on, and I am friends with Patrick and Stephanie Lambert and such, they have discovered that the whole thing with Venezuela, I told you about Alex Saab. Did we get into this subject? No, you didn't go into detail. Well, when they picked up Maduro, he turned over his bookkeeper, a Colombian named Alex Saab, the fixer, right? And he was indicted in New York. Well, they kicked him out. They kicked it out, of course, because it's New York. And then he was re-picked up again or picked up again. And then it was brought down to a court in Miami and he was arrested and brought down there. Well, he is being prosecuted down there because there's a judge down there that will actually prosecute election crimes. Well, the short of the story is that Dominion, which is based basically in, you know, it's kind of all over the place. However, that Venezuela owned thirty percent of Dominion, the Dominion voting voting systems, which is in Michigan and everywhere else. Right. So at any rate, they've got all this information. They've got it tied to and they have confessions from Serbian, the Serbian programmers that said that they've been messing in our elections for over two decades and that There's seventy two or seventy three countries involved in this. So I think they really do have have this in a nice, neat little package. And there's been so much stuff that has been coming out in the last few days. And the call that I told you I had this morning is pointing to the fact that. to me that this is one great, big, amazing sting operation that is going to take so many people down. And so that's why I think people are so confused is that they can't see through the fog of war. Now, are the processes correct? I don't believe that. I believe that a lot of them are not. But how do you infiltrate a thousand-thousand-year death cult That is based on commerce, money, trafficking, weapons trafficking, killing human beings, trying to take things over and snuff out life at the backside of this. But nobody wants to go there. And where were they hiding? In military industrial complex, in other countries, in the proxy countries that the CIA and everybody else had set up. the politicians were just actually much, much more low level than what people think they are. They're puppets. It's who's pulling the strings. Yeah, that's exactly right. And, you know, when the issue of Dominion came up, I researched it. And I went back in history, of course. and found that the Dominion system was designed for online voting or voting by phone from the ground up. That's what it was designed to do. But nobody ever talked about it. And that lady that just got out of prison. Tina Peters? Yeah, I think that's her name. Yeah. I've met her. She's real nice. Yeah. She seems like she would be. Yeah. She was right on top of it, you know, and what she did, I don't believe was illegal. It wasn't. Neither was the charges against Stephanie Scott in Michigan. It's very similar. They tried to catch her on a felony, but it's dismissed. And now, now guess what? All of our good friends out there that are battling the courts are going to, are coming out with, you know, with the coming out of the corner. And I think it's going to be a KO. We just got to, Be a little patient, supportive, because we don't want to get one person. We don't want to go after Gretchen Whitmer. We don't want to go after these people alone because they got a thousand people sitting in their wings to replace them. If you're going to take it down, you got to take it down top to bottom or just just don't get in the game. Right. Well, the the Senate needs to take away the. nonprofit status of all of these NGOs. Just get rid of the whole nonprofit system. Except by maybe special decree or something. But I'm not even sure about that. Because corporations use it not only as a political weapon, but as a tax shelter. And even corporations have their nonprofits. which works for the benefit of the corporation, not for the benefit of the public. So why do we give a tax benefit to a corporation to have their political desires achieved. It makes no sense. You know what I found out? I found out that most nonprofits also have a separate entity, like an LLC, that they pass funds back and forth between. Sure, yeah, because you can't file, you know, for, you can't file to find out what the finances are for an LLC. Right. Yeah. So they hide everything with the LLCs that are working with the NGOs. And then most of the people within these NGOs, nonprofits or whatever, they will be getting contracts off to the side. Like I saw it in hospice. There was a guy for the National Hospice Association. I went in there to sell We had developed a program to help people in bereavement. Well, one of the guys on the board actually was selling these communications and newsletters. It was like crazy, like a buck a piece or something like that, where our system would have been pennies on the dollar. They wouldn't go with it because the guy that was on the board was making money off of it and making the decisions. So it's totally, it's a racket. They've got it captured. You can't find out what they're doing, but everybody's, oh, it's a nonprofit. There's no profit in it. Okay, yeah, there's no profit publicly that you're going to see, but they've got everything hidden out there. Sure, they can use it for money laundering. I mean, it's just... Our system, from all my research, is corrupt from top to bottom. Top to bottom. There's not one part of it that hasn't been compromised. People have to get this thing figured out because just because a label says something doesn't mean it's so. Most of the labels are misleading. Very misleading. But people go, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's what we want. That's what we need to have. That's the problem. Well, it might be the problem, but the solution is a bigger problem because it's just a distraction. You're starting to have communications problems. We must be on the right track. I guess so. Yeah. Well, I didn't hear the word that you said, but I know what you meant, so it's okay. Which word was that? So I was just off on a roll. Oh, I can't remember now. But whenever we start having communications problems. We're talking about something good, so listen up, people. Well, it's like last week, too, with all the outages that we had when we were online. The main thing is that when things get a little crazy, you've got to keep going. Or if there's something in the fight that doesn't go the way that we want it to go, what our expectations are, our expectations mean nothing at this point in time because there's too much we don't know that's going on. So you either figure out the season that we're in and what things what's really going on or, you know, just not be too dogmatic about our opinions because there's a lot going on that we don't know. But God knows I'm OK with that. He's going to he's going to bring it to the best conclusion. It may be a little rocky, but I do believe that we're going in a good direction. Yeah. Yeah. Well, and that's the way it is with my work, too. You know, I write what I see happening, what I think is happening. Anybody that wants to tell me I'm wrong, I'm perfectly willing to hear what you have to say. Show me your evidence and I'll change my opinion on a dime. I feel the same way. If I'm wrong, I want to know about it. We got to be in there for truth, period, plus nothing. Not our biases. Yeah. But if you notice something, something that's really quite weird, but it's a big clue, even though it's subtle, is that our federal government hands out money to the states with no reporting back, with no oversight whatsoever. with no definition of the programs. They just hand out the money and, you know, like they're doing with Minnesota, they handed out all that money probably to Minnesota's version of the HHS, Health and Human Services. After the fact, after there's so much fraud, then they go after the fraud. Well, why did they wait until the fraud was like, fourteen billion before going after it? They have to know. Somebody knows what's going on. Just, you know, the leering centers and all this other stuff. Someone knows, and they're not saying a thing because they're part of it. Yeah. It's just when it becomes overwhelming, that's when they decide to go after it. You know what's really beautiful, though? Okay, so I'm going to have a hypothesis here. You may disagree with me. I expect a lot of people to disagree with me on this. But when you see all the spending and the money laundering, think about this. If we have really good guys behind the scenes and you look at President Trump's executive order that he wrote that anybody involved in, say, crimes against humanity or that sort of thing, that the government has the right to seize the assets of the people involved. So now I want you to think about this. If we were, not you personally, but everybody out there, if we were going to go take down a transnational crime syndicate who has stolen from we the people to extreme measures, you know, just unspeakable amount of theft, Wouldn't it be great if you set them up and caught them at all these crimes and then all of a sudden had something sitting there in the wings to just seize all their assets? When I saw this, it was years ago, and I don't remember what year I saw it, with the Rothschilds' big estate. the black forest area and it was like fourteen uh fourteen thousand um i gotta think what it was how how big this place is but it it's like huge i mean absolutely huge let me look it up a minute because this is important but they had to start they were selling off assets and that one in the black forest area really, really stuck with me because it was about the same time that the executive order came out. Now, if you play this out to logical conclusion, and if it is going in that direction, they've probably been doing this for years. So if they have been seizing all the properties of these people for years, wouldn't it be amazing if they got it all figured out? They were basically the biggest sting operation in the history of the world. Let them commit the crimes. Grab all their stuff, and then at some point in time, deal with them all, all of them at the same time. You can't get one or two. You could never piece this out. You've got to get them all. Does that make any sense to you or not? Am I just totally off base? Well, it does, but the problem is that if you wait, evidence gets stale. And there's usually a limitation on time for you to file charges. So I'm pretty much of, when you find it, go for it. Put the low level people in prison and then work your way up the ladder. Because what happens is, um your investigation can get infiltrated um if you wait you know for the big guys then um you can you can just lose a lot and what happens with white collar people is that if they feel like that they might be at risk they're gonna straighten up and fly right. Because they didn't spend their life preparing for a career, building for a career to be taken down and thrown in prison for some paltry amount of money. So I'm really a big believer in when you see a crime being committed, take them down. And I don't care if it's the drug dealer on the corner or whether it's a stockbroker working at an exchange in an office. I don't care where it is, who it is. Take them down. Because it's just... Well, we can see from our country how things get out of hand. If you only go for the big guys, then you let the disease of crime spread throughout the bottom. Yeah, I think so. So I just looked it up, and it was called the Langau Estate Sale in Australia, multiple reputable sources report that the Rothschilds family sold off five, let's see, thirteen thousand acre. I think it was a little more than that, but I'll have to look into it more. Forestry and hunting estate called Langau in Lower Austria. This is the closest event known. Austria or Australia? Austria. It's in kind of the Black Forest area. That's what I was always heard, but it's in the same kind of... It had been in the family for four hundred forty-three years and was sold for ninety million. It's a historic transaction involved in very large forested estate similar to the Black Forest landscape. Their There's some other older sales too, but that's the one right there that I was thinking of. So kind of interesting, the ability to seize properties when they find out that people were involved in human trafficking. And I hate to say it, in human hunting, that's a thing. It's kind of an unpleasant subject, but there's lots of documentation of that happening around, say, Brussels and in the past. There's a castle there too that lots of bad, Lots of bad things happened there. I think it's called the Castle of the Dark Mother. And terrible things that have happened. So my hope is that they're actually taking all of this down and taking the assets back. You've got to redistribute it to we the people, like a little bit of a Robin Hood move. That would make me awful happy. Uh-huh. Yeah, they should never have allowed it to be taken anyway like they did in our country. But what they... just as a description of what they did to our government, to our country is that they kind of left our government in place as a facade, but the real governing structure is sitting over the top, um, under the OAS, the organization of American states. And, um, So, but nobody knows about that governing layer. And so they don't, if they notice anything, they might notice that our Congress has become pretty useless, except for, you know, voting for the money for the NDAA, because as you say, you know, the military is running things. but they're doing it behind a civilian cover. Yeah, I think there was an internal war there going on too within the intelligence organizations and within the military. But I have great faith that they're carrying it into the right direction. But I think it was probably in the wrong direction until some really brave people stood up and took an oath to win it or to die trying. And once that started, some people got the courage to realize that, They weren't standing alone, but that there was a huge amount of people who were willing to do the right thing, even if it meant death. Yeah, well, that seems to be the way that it works, is that nobody makes any moves at all until there are one or two or ten people who stand up and just say it out straight. And that gives other people the courage to then, you know, one by one stand up and say, yeah, I see that too. And once that happens, it almost becomes a movement, a wave that can't be stopped. And I kind of think that that's where we're at. Do you think leaders are born or do you think they're created? I think they're born. I'd have to agree with that. Yeah. I know I've taken those personality profile things. I'm very high, you know, in terms of analytical abilities and all that stuff. But I'm an introvert, meaning I don't want to be like at the head of the parade. I want to blend in with all the rest of the people, but still do what I do. I had a good friend, Beth, that we were talking about this last week, about the fact that even prophets from God, they're actually very quiet people, and they'll get the job done, and they just kind of go away. But they don't necessarily entrench themselves into a society or position. They just fix things. And I thought that was pretty interesting. That's what she said anyway. She goes, look back at the Bible. And it was one of those things I never connected the dots on. You know how we're learning, all of us are learning something every day from each other. It would be amazing if one person had all of the information, but it just doesn't work that way. Everybody sees things a little bit differently. And even if you've heard something your whole life, if you just listen, not you personally, but if a person just listens, then all of a sudden it might just dawn on you, you know, the, the concepts that were being, that were being taught to you. And all of a sudden it makes sense because the timing was right. Yeah. That happens to me a lot, you know, where I see things, but they, but I, I haven't absorbed them, you know, and at some point I'll see something that will, oh, that's what that's about, you know. I see now. So that happens to me quite a lot. And it's really quite amazing. And I feel bad for people in a way that, you know, just live their quiet lives of solitude or whatever, just living normal lives. They're missing that. the most incredible evolution of human society that's ever happened. And they're missing it because they just don't want to see what's really happening in the world around them. They want to play, you know, it's like the player, the distractions, you know, too much time, just doing stuff just for fun, going for one fun thing to the next with no purpose, instead of paying attention to things that actually make their lives, you know, more purposeful and, and such the, you can, I think you're the same way is that we have fun doing things with a purpose to try to fix problems as that we see and, In the world, you know, I burn out on just having having fun very quickly. I don't find it fun to do the things that most people enjoy doing. I find it tiring. Yeah. Yeah. I've been that way pretty much all my life. Me too. I have always had to be doing something. you know, and of course, throughout my early life, I was doing a number of things, but it was always productive things. And then when the opportunity came for me to have time on my hands to do nothing, if I wanted to, that wasn't possible. I had to, I basically found my own job doing research and documenting and And so that's what I've been doing ever since. Well, I think the thing that you do, and I do this too, is that we're not looking for people to solve our problems. We just jump in and solve problems. But I don't like other people trying to solve my problems because usually, you know, usually the situation or the solution is lacking. Yeah. Yeah. Nobody can see things from the vantage point that you're in that any person is in. So the best person to solve the problems is the people in the situation, not expecting somebody else to do it for them. That's a, that's a very immature attitude when people just want somebody else always to solve their problems instead of saying, pick me, I'll go, okay, what do I need to do? And I'll give it my best shot, you know? Yeah. I just, I, I guess I don't have anything in common with people that do that. I've kind of always been on the outside looking in. And so I see problems that other people don't because they're not looking. and so they're they're playing they can't handle it and and i think that sometimes those those of us that are like you and i we dive into subjects very deeply because because we'd be bored otherwise you know i get bored with subjects once i master something i'm usually like okay finish that let's go on to something else i've got it as a skill or something i know but uh Not that I just want to entrench myself in something, but I do think that when we dig deep into things, it's very traumatizing for other people because the reality is they can't cope with reality. Yeah. So I have to really moderate that too because I know that it's so disturbing to some people. I have people around me that are like, I can't go there. Please don't talk about this. I'm like, okay, I'm sorry. I'm going to move off to the side here. Hey, let's talk about what kind of frosting did you make for the cupcakes last week? But I do have to show you something. Let me grab this a minute. You're going to think this is cool. But keep talking. I'm right here. OK, yeah, I was just going to say at one point early on in my research, I tried to tell my dad what was happening, you know, because you do kind of look for an authority figure within your own family. But when when I saw what when he the moment he understood what I was saying, it was like. he froze and then he just shut down it was like the most amazing thing i've ever seen in my life he just shut down and i swore i would never again try to tell him anything about what i'm doing or try to get his help or anything because he just couldn't handle he couldn't process it And that's a shame because if people can't process things, they're missing out whether they are intentionally doing it or not. But it's a shame. You know, I have a person that I fired once. And just recently, there was another incident that once again moved this person farther away from me. farther away from uh the things that i was trying to do to help this person like give them a job and such and uh the problem that i see with a lot of this is that people are looking for a reason to get offended instead of if somebody's gonna go do something stupid why why get all sorts of offended on let them sit on that and i know it's a really hard thing to do sometimes When someone goes on the attack, they don't understand you. They don't love you. They don't whatever. I mean, we can make up a billion different things that that, you know, other people do to offend us and such. But if you make it a goal never to be offended and just sit there and observe them, then you you really just like you sit back and you go, OK, you're going to you're going to sit on the island of idiot all by yourself because I won't be joining you there or engaging you in that that area. People in politics have to absolutely have to have that mindset or because of all the attacks you have. I have this gal that was on my channel this week, too, and she was saying, you know, Satan is Donna's buddy on and on. And I'm like going, why would you say something like that, first of all? And clearly you haven't been listening to me or you're just listening to what's the music playing in your head. But you... Are not listening to anything but going on a public venue and spouting that kind of filth. I'm like, isn't that what what God said is that Satan is the accusers of our brethren. So for somebody to even say something that ignorant to me is like, why would you even say something like that? Very few people I block, but I did block her because I'm like, I'm not just going to sit here and be abused because it was very abusive. And I tried to try to decelerate her. And I'm like, I'm not wasting my time on this anymore. You know, you can't get people that are there. that, that, uh, are just being abusive. You, you can only give them so many times and then let them go on their own way. And they're going to be idiots. Let them go into idiotville all by themselves and don't feel bad about it. So I did block her because I was like, I'm sick of listening to her stupidity, but anyhow, you're going to, you're going to love this. So I have a son who is allergic to just about everything. And so I started compiling. I put a list together of all the foods that he can actually eat. So I've got a really good list of all the foods that he can eat and the ones he can't eat. And then started putting together a cookbook for him. And I know he's listening right now, and he knows some of them. I showed him some of the recipes. He's like, oh, my gosh, this sounds really good. So vegetarian like I am, he won't even eat fish. I eat a little bit, but I probably don't eat fish more than once or twice a month. But there's all these recipes, and they're fantastic. Garlic herb roasted chicken alternative with its lemon garlic vegetable bowl. And here's another creamy cashew alfredo with gluten-free pasta, stir-fried bok choy bowl, rice bowl with wasabi kick, and baked eggplant Parmesan-style Mexican cheese. So I have got a boatload. This is like I've got a boatload of recipes compiled here. And so I'm going to flesh out a personal cookbook for him with all the different categories that I've been working through. I've done main dishes. I've done salads. I've done some appetizers and such. And refined the list, added some things and such and gone back. Small bites, soups, stews, main dishes, side dishes, breads, baked goods, desserts, breakfast, brunch, salad. dressings, condiments, snacks, and treats, and beverages. So this is one of those things that the big allergies that everybody has, he has those too, but he has more than that. So anybody that has any type of allergies to pretty much anything, this cookbook will be something that I think people would enjoy or that would fix a problem. So I've been having a lot of fun with this. This is kind of a project. I mean, you know, when you think about all the things that we can do in life, Learning something or throwing yourself into a project. So this is one of a billion projects I have going on right now. And so I work on it. Then I'll get an inspiration. I would like to say that God's given me the inspiration to jump on it. Oh, let's look into this for a minute. Let's look into that. And then I add to it. So my file on this is actually fairly large. But anybody that has any traditional allergies, this is kind of a nice, I hope, a nice help. I think that's really nice. I read something recently about some vaccination or medicine that basically made people allergic to just so many things. It affected their immune system. Yeah, if I run into that again, I'll send it to you. that'd be great because we can't find exactly what's going on, but it's, it's pretty serious. Actually. It's, it's not, did you know that you can have allergies in different parts of your body? So your digestive tract is, is completely separate from say the allergies that we would breathe in or that, you know, come into our bodies in a different way. It's its own little, their own little biome there. Right. And so it's, he has food allergies and if you don't think food allergies not you personally but everybody if people don't think food allergies is a real thing uh you know come and talk to me because he's almost died twice yeah oh i how could you not think that food allergies are a real thing because i've even seen people react Um, so fortunately I don't really have any, uh, food allergies. Uh, it doesn't mean I don't have other things, but, um, I can't think of any off hands. So I've been pretty lucky, but, but, um, actually I've never taken vaccines, not from the very first, from the very first one that they came out with. I've never taken vaccines. And I think vaccines have a lot to do with it. Yeah, I would say you're probably right. And let's see. Oh, love is there. Hey, love, how you doing? So at, at any way, yeah, she, love has got a relationship too, that said that her, her looks like her sister-in-law said terrible things about her. And she just said, she's never going to see her again, or she doesn't care if she does also Lyme disease from ticks that causes being allergic to everything, especially meat, pretty sure it's a Fauci made tick. I think most of this stuff has been engineered as a chemical weapon. or using biological means for distribution a lot of times, but somebody created this. It didn't just come from nowhere and all of a sudden overnight. You know, these mutations that they're saying, oh my gosh, it just happened in the last six months. How long does it take to make a mutation? Thousands of years. It doesn't happen typically overnight like this. So something is a catalyst or making it go so quickly. It's ridiculous. Yeah, I think it was, after hearing you say that, I think it was the tick, maybe Fauci's tick or Lyme disease or something like that, that gives people the allergies to everything. Yeah, the Lone Star tick, but where did that stuff come from? You know, it's like Plum Island and you look at Lyme's disease. You can't look at this and not say that it came from Plum Island. jumping across the water on birds or something like that, or if they were dumping them out of planes or something like that. But there's too much of a trackable spread through that channel that when you look at how the Lyme disease spread through the cities called Lyme or the township, I think it's Lyme, Connecticut, that you can't look at that and say there's something horrible that they were doing. Yeah. Well, there was a veterinarian from Montana or Wyoming, I forget which, but she caught a hawk, I think it was, and the hawk had ticks on its wings. It's going to travel. Yeah. So, and she was on her way down to, after about, I don't know, six or eight months or something, she was on her way down to a conference in Colorado. And oh, gee, guess what? She and her husband were killed in a car accident. She never made it to the conference. Well, look at what they've done to attack our food supply besides poisoning us and such and dumping us into food that really isn't food. It's sort of like some sort of chemical engineered cocktail instead of real food. And they've gone after, look at all the ostriches that they use snipers to kill up in Canada that have been bred for years, healthy ones. Saying there's a problem. Or going after the chickens in the United States. Well, why did they go after the chickens? They should have gone after the migratory birds then. But then the environmental wackos would have gone absolutely nuts. But nobody says jack crap about the chickens. Uh-huh. Yeah. And that's our food supply. They always go after it. It's always the food supply they go after to starve us out. Mm-hmm. The farmers, the first people they go after usually are the farmers because they want to control everything. Yeah, well, if they control your food supply, they control you. And water and power. And so, you know, when we look at energy, a lot of the subversion goes to the Department of Energy. Exactly. Jennifer Granholm. piece of crap who made a one point six million on a stock trade insider trading. But nobody wants to talk about that. Oh, our members of Congress are just nothing but whores that that's where they make their money. That's how they go into Congress with no money and they come out multimillionaires. What do you think about Marjorie Taylor Greene? I mean, there's a lot of people in the conservative side that just love her. And I'm like going, I'm not so sure about that. You know, she takes off and she's got a multimillion dollar house in Central America, I think. And where she ended up, look at all the expats that go down to Central America, hide out there. It's amazing. Yeah. Yeah, even George W. Bush, I think he bought a big ranch in Paraguay, I think it was. Yeah. They might be good on one issue, but then they're against us in other issues. That's why you can't pin anything down, you know, because The billionaires, they have enough money to buy congressmen for a single issue. So they'll be great on one single issue, but they'll sell you down the river on everything else. Yeah. Yeah. Look at it. It's just it's just kind of kind of amazing. And they harbor them when they when they get done with them, they give them a safe harbor to stay at. I got to tell you, when Mike Rogers is running for office in in Michigan and one of the things that really shocked me as I was at a place where where ex-governor Engler was and he did, he just looked at me, goes, why did you just run for governor? He said, you should have gone and worked for somebody like Mike Rogers. And for a while to figure out how the system works. And I was like, I didn't realize that that was a condition of running for office, that you got to work for somebody that's in the establishment in order to get it figured out how this works so that they will let you run. You know, it was kind of, it was kind of wild that he would even actually come out and say that. Yeah. Republicans and people believe that one side is better than the other. It's like, Oh, I'm a Republican. I'm always a Republican. I'll always vote. I'm like, are you kidding me? You know, you're not thinking whatever you are. Well, for years and years, just about all the politicians were Republican. But now it's starting to turn. The Democrats are coming out of the closet. you know, and so I suspect within a few years, we'll be a Democrat state, even though we've always been a Republican state. But, you know, when money is involved, there is no Democrat and Republican. There is no left and right. There's only money. Yeah. Well, it goes back to people worshiping the gold calf. I mean, If you either worship God and truth or you worship the material world, if you can't divorce yourself from the material world, you will truly never be able to live a spirit filled, God led life. You can't do it. You can't serve two masters. Yeah. And on that note, it looks like your next guest is up and I'm out. Oh, that's great. Well, I love talking to the Vicki and it's always, you know, just so everybody knows, if you go to the technocratic tyranny, you'll see a boatload of information. Vicki has compiled. And I think you've done just an amazing job of preserving evidence and connecting the dots. And everything that you've done, I know sometimes people that just do this type of thing, they feel like nobody cares. Well, I care. And like I said, we made sure to to save a copy and I'm not going to, I won't do anything with it, but it's like, this is too valuable if something happens to you. And I mean, I know you felt pretty good about that, you know, that we cared enough to preserve your work because it needs to be preserved and it needs to be preserved. All of us need to preserve our stuff in multiple locations. So if it goes down, save offline, save different places and et cetera, you know who your trusted friends are. And your trusted friends should always have your back on these things because we're all working together for a better world and to make sure that everything is going in the right direction. And I only trust people that have proven themselves to me to be who they say they are. And I really appreciate your friendship. Well, thank you. I appreciate yours, too. That's a great way to start out Monday. So you have a great day today. And guys, I'm going to go to a fifty seven second. I got a little bit of a headache this morning, so I'm going to stand up and stretch here a minute, a little bit. Fifty seven second break and I'll be right back with Karen Riveter. Good morning and welcome to the second hour of Brandenburg News Network. I am Donna Brandenburg and it's the eighth day of June, twenty twenty six. Welcome to our show. I'm a good friend. Karen is here this morning. Hey, Karen, how you doing? Good morning. What's happening, Karen World? Well, I came in from outside working in my garden this morning. Usually when you ask me what am I up to, it's like, well, I'm working in my garden. I love that. this is my third year gardening at all like I never used to do anything and I have made huge swaths of yard ahead to this year are now garden places and extended what I had before in uh It's been a lot of fun. I don't know why. I just feel lured to do... I think it's the artist in me, because I haven't done any... I used to draw, and then I got into scratchboard, as you know. Charcoal pencil. And I quit doing that when I was... I was planning to do at least five shows, I think, the year of the scandemic. And they shut it all down. And I was just like, well... What am I going to do? I'm just I was so angry about the whole thing that I did. I waited most of the rest of the year and I did one piece just for me. It was beautiful. And then that was it. I haven't done any anything with it set. So I think there's an artistic side of me that wants to come out. And I'm an animal person. I'm not a plant person. I took a botany five hundred class because I had to in college for my my minor and minored in natural resources. And the professor took us out and he said, OK, what is this? And I'm looking at I have no idea. And finally, every everybody else in the class looked at me like I was nuts. And and they're like, it's a violet. that's early in the spring and i'm like i don't know the professor finally gave up on me but i worked really hard in the class i did what i had to do and i got an a minus in the whole class but i hated everything about botany and now i've got this garden with all kinds of perennials and it's shady places and sunny places and it's just been a lot of fun that's and i'm really happy because i planted a climbing rose uh root stock today um Well, a couple months ago or so, and, and it's been a while and I'm starting to get concerned, but it looked kind of green in places. So I was like, well, I'm not giving up yet. Well, today I looked really closely and I can see some little leaves growing on it. And then another bare root that I got a few weeks ago, it's a Bartzella peony hybrid, and I have two of those as bare roots and one as a bush. And they haven't looked any different since I put them in the ground. But it takes a long time for the roots to develop. So I've been looking at them every day. And I think what happened is a rabbit got to one of the buds on it. And I don't like that. But what I did see is that that bud is green inside, which tells me the plant is probably alive. A lot of times it makes the roots grow a little quicker because the energy goes into the health of the plant rather than the, the offspring. So it's not, not all bad. Yeah. What color, what color are they? Are they like a deep color? Are they lighter color? Oh, they are a yellow. You mean the buds? No, the, the, this is, um, that's the, uh, Yeah, the flowers. What is the flower? The flowers are yellow. It's going to look... When it's mature, it's a very florific bush. I can send you a picture. I know I posted it. And it's called Bartzella. It's very... It'll be covered with big yellow blooms if I do it right. And... Yeah, it's like a mophead hydrangea, but in yellow. Oh, that's cool. That's what lured me to it. I saw a guy that planted his whole yard. He lives in town somewhere. He planted his entire yard in dahlias. And it's just like he's got row after row after row tightly packed. Just like the whole thing looks like a carpet, a tall, dense carpet of flowers. That's kind of cool. Well, my sister-in-law, she's the type that she, she would like to have like an English garden approach. She has, she struggles because she has a lot of shade on her property. Oh yeah. But, um, but she doesn't have an English garden. She has a nice tidy garden up front, but I like to have this plant here and that plant there with some space in between. so I can see what everything looks like and my tastes change as I'm learning and growing new things and squeezing plants in and watching what works here and what doesn't. Sometimes I'll not know why it works well or not, but If it doesn't work like, uh, garden floxes, I've got creeping flocks and they're starting to do okay. But the garden flocks get, uh, mildew and I just don't have, I have no patience for powdery mildew. So. They're very pretty plant, but I'm like, you know what? I don't need those anymore. So sometimes like roses, I have a few and none of them are doing spectacularly. So I don't know if I just need, I need an expert in roses to guide me a little bit more, I think. And I don't know anybody who knows roses well. They're a finicky plant. But now hydrangeas... I'm learning about hydrangeas. I'm your hydrangea girl. Oh, well, that's a cool thing. I love hydrangeas. So beautiful. Impactful. How do you say that? Impactful. I've got three new ones this year. I've got three panicles and one oak leaf. That's my first oak leaf, and it's growing up pretty good. That one I got from just down the road. There's a gal that grows and sells things and paid twenty five dollars for it. When it's when it's large and in charge, it could have blooms up to like seventeen inches. Mine probably won't. Mine probably won't do that well. But if I can get some eight, ten inch blooms on it, I'll be happy. But it's called Snowflake and they have a double bloom. Some of them, like the underblossom will be like a pink color and pink and white, basically. And very, very, very pretty in the fall. Oh, that's cool. Very cool. Yeah, I like all sorts of flowers. And I like the gardening, too. And you do a really good job of it. I mean, you've really gotten into it. You need horse manure. I'm your girl. Let me tell you what. I still have them. What's that? I still have, we have horse manure compost from the Amish that they moved to, the folks we got it from moved to Pennsylvania late last year. But I still got a bunch of that and I put that in with just about everything here. But Yeah, I'm not growing any food. It's the most nutritious manure for the plants without burning them. So you can use all the other, you know, it takes three times as long to compost chicken manure to make sure that that doesn't burn your plants and that you kill all the bad stuff in it, processes through it. You know, it's a living, the soil is a living organism. It's not just dirt. You know, there's all sorts of things in your soil that, and things that you need to do to keep the soil healthy to grow food. And glyphosates aren't part of it, you know, because that kills off all the bugs in your soil. So it makes your soil soil bad. You know, you need to really feed that soil. So you've got a, you've got its own biome, its own culture there to grow feed or, you know, to grow feed for us. Yeah, I finally got most everything under control now. So I'll be putting down some plant tone, which is a slow release natural soil fertilizer. So it's not like Miracle-Gro at all. And then I've got some worm compost that I got, I don't know, last month. And I just thought, well, I'm going to wait until everything's in the ground first and makes up a batch and then put it on all my new plants in the new areas at least. So I'll be doing that sometime soon. I have two plants that I got on the one big shopping day. They still have to get in the ground, but there's walnut, black walnut there that my husband has to get out of the way before I can put them in the ground. And I got a couple of clearance buys. I'm really good at talking managers down or getting deals or finding sales. So I've got a couple of those, but they're content where they are right now. And the nice thing is my shady garden, which was completely new. The former owner had had some kind of garden over there. She made a rock pile about six feet wide and eleven feet long. And she probably, because she's just that way, he probably planted the periwinkle, a.k.a. vincovine over there, and it spread everywhere. So I was out in March and over a few weeks, whenever the weather was even forties and fifties, I was out there pulling that bank of vine. And I think I covered more than a hundred and fifty square feet pulling that out. Do not plant that stuff in the ground. But I got it. And I'll have to keep watching because it keeps coming back out here and there. And the support is the worst thing that's everywhere in there. I'm never probably going to get that out. but there was nothing in there as of this spring and now i've got a whole bunch of new plants over there and they are all to the point now where they're not just in survival mode or getting their roots situated they're starting to grow And one of those new little baby plants that I got, I'll post a picture later. I like to post pictures at the end of the day for my garden. It's a longwort, and it's got a teeny tiny little single pink flower right at the base of it. And it's just such a cute little plant. And I'm like, look at you guys. Look at you guys going. Okay, so there's somebody that popped up. Festive Mario, I'm being on. Roses love bananas. Plant peels around the bottom of the plant. Well, here's the thing about that. A lot of people, I don't know if that really works, that what they're talking about probably is potassium or phosphorus or calcium. You get ground eggshells. People say ground eggshells in your tomato pots. Well, it takes a long, long time for calcium to break down out of eggshells. It takes... I don't know about banana peels, so maybe that helps. I've got an insect problem. It's really all about the microbes that break things down, too. So, I mean... Everything processes processes things differently. Mm hmm. So I've got the one bush out front. It's got another couple of new blooms on it today. So that's good. I think what happened is early this spring it had an insect issue. Um, and I think our harsh frost did some damage and I haven't pruned it except I, I did recently cause it had some dead on it. So it's got like these random shoots that are shooting up green and I'm just not pruning it right now. Cause I'm trying, I'm still trying to get to know it and figure it out, but, but I got a good rose fertilizer on them, so. Maybe I'll get some worm compost in there. Maybe I'll try banana peels. See how that goes. Okay, so GG Ophelia just changed the name from Festive Mario to GG Ophelia. And it says it's definitely potassium. Okay. But, and here's why I say but. Because in the hydrangea groups, people say stuff like this sometimes too. My soil might not have a problem with potassium. And it might work really, really well for other people. Sometimes they say coffee grounds. You got to put down coffee grounds. Coffee grounds don't work like people think they work. And if you do some research on it, other people have poo-pooed that one too. Like they think coffee grounds are great for acidifying in hydrangeas. And you really... If you want your flowers to turn blue, you're probably better off getting a soil acidifier and doing it with something that's particular to that. Some people say, well, mine, I've always had coffee grounds and I've got the most beautiful blooms. Okay, but they might not have anything to do with your coffee grounds. There's Gigi Ophelia. I agree your soil has its own makeup yeah did you know that there are different plants I went in and looked at nine I think started with nine I've got all these lists I'm trying to throw it into um uh obsidian and making my own wiki so I can search all my documentation and all the things that I've done but at this point in time um the there's there's fruiting shrubs out there that i'd never heard of most most of these until about a year ago that you can plant and some of them fix calcium in the ground or bring somehow it creates calcium and, and it's, it's kind of interesting. Not only can you do a nitrogen fixing, but you can help look at this. This is going to be funny. This is going to be like one of those infinite loops, you know, you know, so that they actually add things to the soil or help, help bring it to the soil. And I don't know if it's because of the bite of the microbes in the soil that it works that way, but it just does. But kind of interesting. I've got a whole list of these fruiting bushes. And some of them have full fruit within a couple of years. First year, you'll even produce some of them. So kind of interesting. And they'll be good for like a hundred years. Blueberries love coffee, but not all plants like it. And it's the acid. It's the acid-loving plants. So there's more than one way to, you know, if you want to try to do it in a natural way, you can do it that way. But it's the grounds. It's not coffee. People pour coffee on their plants. Okay. Understand the science and know your soil before trying things sometimes. And I haven't soil tested, but I'm thinking about I might want to do that because I have my heart set on a yellow magnolia. Yeah. I got a Jane, which is a pink, pink, purple. I got one of those in the backyard. Finally, we finally figured out a spot for, for one of those, but I want a yellow one. There's, there's a few of them in Grand Haven and I got to see them in bloom again this year. There's a couple of them right in front of the McDonald's down there. And it has these, um, Not golden arches. They're a yellow arches that stream right across the front of their restaurant. And with the yellow magnolia, it actually looks pretty cool. Not like I'd care for McDonald's, but it's and they have some across the road over there. I saw that and I'm like, I got to have me a yellow magnolia. They are very hard to find because there's only a few growers that produce them. And there's not a lot of yellow varieties that will grow hardy in Michigan. But there is a place up here near Fremont that occasionally will carry them. So I've got to send them in. an email to let them know I am interested. But I think before I do that, I'm going to test the one spot I have left that I might be able to work with my husband to put it there because he's running out of places to put snow in the winter because of my gardening. This is like a husband and wife fight on who gets what. No, no, it's not a fight. It's not a fight at all. He's very, very supportive. of where i'm gardening and what i'm doing and he knows it's really good for me it's it's health it's mental health it's physical health I know my back hurts every day. You know, my back is shaped like an S curve. So the fact that I'm doing what I'm doing every day is a huge blessing and gift that I can move the way I am. Because I'm hauling a lot of heavy things and I'm pulling things and I'm bending over and moving things. And that strengthens my back. So it's one of the things that keeps me at it. But that the area, the only area left that we could put a new tree in that would get enough sun that way is in a really sandy part of the yard that may not be fruitful enough in the soil unless I do a lot of soil conditioning or something. Well, you know where Troyers is. I think we're going to go through that. It's right across from the Amish store that you like. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. There's a gentleman there that I met at a gardening place event, and he was telling me about the testing. I think I'm going to go through him and do a soil test because he will help me interpret it. Can I grow magnolias here? And also mophead hydrangeas. I probably test that too because it's close enough to the other area. My conspiracy plot only has thirteen plants in it right now. It used to have seventeen. And I had to dig them up and pot them because they were doing so poorly. Because they chopped down the shade trees over there where the power line was. And last year with the drought, we had canopies over them, but some of them just could not handle the heat and everything. So the canopies are back up, but they don't cover everything really well. And I'm thinking about digging some more of them up and putting them in pots so I can put them in shade. But I think some of them that I have potted up have performed better in the pots than in that soil over there. Even with the The peat and the compost. And the fertilizer I did over there. It's just. I don't know. It's just not the best spot maybe. But that's a lot of work. And I don't like digging them up. So I'm just going to see. How things go here. It's not my priority. One priority at a time. Yeah I got to do that. I was looking for the plants. The plants that. are the fruiting shrubs and such. I didn't find it in a minute, but I couldn't find it where I thought I had left that research, which is why I need to do a personal wiki that is in fact searchable. But yeah, it's so important. I'm like, why do we plant so many ornamental trees and shrubs and plants and such? Why aren't we planting food sources? Yeah. There's a lot of them that double up. There are a lot of new varieties. Like Proven Winters is Michigan-based, and they have really quality plants. If you want really quality Proven Winters plants, Garden Crossings in the Zeeland area. They have almost all the Proven Winners plants. They have their perennials, their annuals, their shrubs. They just don't have their trees. They can be a little bit more pricey. If you want things in a quart size container, you can get a quality plant that you can watch grow for less than you would a larger gallon size or bigger. So I like that about them too. They know their plants, and they're always educating about their plants, which I like, too. But they will tell you, this is a native plant. It may not look like a native plant because it's been bred to be more of various qualities. But it is still a native-based plant. And most of them are, like you said, ornamental versus medicinal or food sources. But there are a lot of native Michigan plants like smooth hydrangeas. Those are native plants in North America. I won't have one, though, because they spread. They spread by suckers. And I met a woman in a garden tour locally. She had them all over the place. And she had one. She was showing me how she could not contain it. And I know what that's like because of this woman that lived here on my property before and planted things that have gone run amok. And I don't like things that spread beyond my control. So I'm really careful about that. Ralph was watching this and he had, I had given him a video, a couple of videos, and he just said that they took the videos down that talk about the fruit bushes. But by the documentation process offline, I have the list here. So fear not, Ralph. We have preserved the information we need. Nanking cherry, which is a bush cherry, cold, hearty, drought tolerant, tart, sweet cherries, etc. And then honey, honey berry. Oh, we got a link now. Honey berry, which is cold, hearty blueberries, high in antioxidant needs too much. varieties for pollination. The gummy berry, red silver speckled berries, nitrogen fixing, improved soil, very productive, low maintenance. Why aren't we just planting those everywhere? We need that nitrogen in the soil instead of replanting beans every year, you know, put some of these guys in. Chokeberry, highest antioxidant levels, extremely cold tolerant. Rosa Ragusa, which is the Ragusa rose, vitamin C rich rose hips. Thorny hedge. Oh, I have, I think I have the wild roses. Yeah. It's out here. Thrives in poor areas and coastal areas. Serviceberry, or called the Juneberry, the Saskatoonberry. Sweet blueberry-like native fruit. Disease-resistant with extended harvest. Gojiberry. Nutrient-dense. Lots of antioxidants and plant protein. Drought-tolerant, sprawling growth. Jostaberry. Thornless blackcurrant and gooseberry hybrid. Disease-tolerant or resistant. Shade-tolerant. Easy to harvest. And sea buckhorn. orange berries high in omega-sevens and vitamin c all of these things the things that you can buy and um in the uh uh ralph email that to me and i'll pull that video up the the thing that we need to do is plant these things so we obviously have a food source so the food sources fail why do all the ornamental stuff why not put something in that's that produces food some of them do well What's that? Some of them do both. And I also have a seven billion dollar collagen secret. Five plants that rebuild collagen that I have saved and make sure that. Oh, we got a helicopter overhead. I got to check that, too. Oh, squirrel, you know, that's that's a big one. That's that's at least a black hawk. I can hear it. Let's see what we got here. Let's see what we got up. Squirrel. The woman who formerly gardened here was apparently very fond of those white decorative rocks. Like one to two inches in diameter, rough hewn. He put them under everything. Tree, bush, whatever plants. And I don't know where all her garden spots were until I find that decorative rock. And I wanted to cuss her out so bad yesterday because I'm trying to put edging in and that stupid rock is under there everywhere. Huh? Kind of a marvel. I'll use that. We use that for, um, uh, the albedo factor, which is the, um, heat transfer around the beehives and such. So that actually looks pretty good. Yup. And it's a Wolfpack helicopter. just in case anybody knows, just went over. Those things are loud. I actually love them. I think they're cool. So, and I also know who owns that one. Interesting. So yeah, let me see if I can, um, Ralph did you email it to me a minute? That's helpful usually so that I can bring it up pretty easily. Oh, let's see. You can keep talking a second while I'm doing this. How are your horses doing with the heat? Do your horses like the heat? I know you got some warm bloods, right? Yeah. And the problem that I have right now is I had one this weekend that was struggling a little bit, which I ended up. Yeah. Okay. Thank you, Ralph. I had one that was struggling significantly, and I finally got that under control, but I was working on him for about, I don't know, four hours or more the other day, and he's got some serious issues, but we figured it out. He's got a problem with sugar, but figured that out, and it's pretty interesting. Okay, here we go. I'm not sure if this is the one I was talking about. require almost zero annual replanting, no tilling, and will feed you for decades. Crops that your great-grandparents grew without thinking twice, that fed entire communities through harsh winters, that produced massive harvests year after year, with a fraction of the work you're putting into that vegetable garden right now. Most people don't know this, but while we're all out there replanting tomatoes and lettuce every single spring, breaking our backs with annual gardens, There are crops out there that you plant once and harvest for twenty, thirty, even fifty years. Crops with actual track records of out-producing traditional gardens with half the effort. And today, I'm going to show you twenty of them that will change the way you think about growing food forever. Stick around, because number fourteen on this list can produce fruit for over a century after you plant it. And it thrives on neglect. And number twenty is so vigorous. I'll put this on my channel, but there's another video, too, that's just about the fruit producing shrubs and bushes out there, too, that are fairly low. They don't get to be out of control, but they produce a lot of fruit, and they'll produce it within the first year. It's not a hybrid. They keep advertising these hybrids all over the place. And it's not the best way to do it. The best way to do it is go to the native plants that were here that are already adjusted and adapted to the climate. And then you don't even have to worry about it. Like the pawpaws, we have a Michigan pawpaw. The thing will produce about twenty pounds of fruit a year. And it's a cross between, taste-wise, it's a cross between a pineapple and a banana. So all of these things, I mean, these things are just like common sense ways of going. Anything you buy in any of the nurseries or garden centers, there's a reason why they've shifted us off the free plants that exist and that realistically are no, you can ignore them and they're going to thrive. Mm-hmm. But for food, anyhow. I'll look for that other video, too, because the other one is, I've got another one that outlines it. Actually, several of them, because I got onto this. I've got to find out how to plant shrubs that produce food so that we can stop all this nonsense landscaping that isn't working in our favor. I might as well make it produce. Well, I am doing my part for the pollinators, right? Let me be clear. I'm not saying what you're doing is worthless. What I'm saying is that, is that, you know, there could be a shift because like around my house, I have absolutely nothing right around the house that produces, which is kind of, especially for myself, it's kind of a little stupid really. But that's why I was looking at it because we tore out some of the landscaping and I decided, well, I want to put something in here that produces, but I am a flower heavy person. Typically, and because I just like flowers, you know. Well, give me about another month or so and come up and I'll show you some flowers. I do have some things flowering right now, but my pinnacles are all still in my mop heads. They're still growing leaves mostly. The new ones have some blooms on them. But they're thinking it's July. They came from Florida. So I had to see this. This story goes way back to last year because I went to Walmart last year in Fremont and I saw Pinnacles. And I was just like, you got to be kidding me. They don't normally have Pinnacles. They have inexpensive mop heads. And they were inexpensive panicles, but I got one that they had forgotten water, so it didn't look so good. And I asked them for a discount and they sold it to me for five dollars. I planted it and it produced my favorite bloom of the entire year. It was a bright, crisp white. And it started with an intense pink on the bottom. Not just the pale pink that they spot and it grows and grows. No, it was an intense pink right from the beginning. And it crept up slowly into the white. It was so pretty. And so I'm like, I want more from this company. I called the grower and said, I want to know. If they have this company is from the Netherlands, like a lot of these places are. But they are not grown everywhere in the United States. And so she said she instructed me that they ship to all the like box stores across the country a couple of times a year. And that I could try later in the summer, which I did. And I could call this year. And she would tell me if they had what varieties. There's one I like to have, but they don't sell it. So they had three varieties that they shipped off to Walmarts. And they are in other Walmarts in the area, too. Called her this year. And she told me there was a shipment headed to that Fremont store that day. So I went up there because it was going to frost that night for sure. And these plants were from Florida. And I'm like, no, I'm going to get them. I got one of each variety before the frost hit because I knew that those plants were going to really struggle with it. And two of them are already blooming now. I was looking for really healthy plants though. And the other one is not blooming yet, but that's okay. I think it's going to produce some buds later and I'm really excited to see how they perform. That's cool. Here it is. I think this is the one I'm thinking of. I've got it saved off somewhere. Mainly growing for generations. Plants that produce so much food in so little space that fruit trees look embarrassing by comparison. Most people don't know this, but while everyone's out there planting apple trees and waiting seven years for their first harvest, there are berry bushes that start producing in their second year, double their yield every season. and just keep going, decade after decade, with almost zero attention. And today, I'm going to show you twenty of them that will completely change the way you think about food production forever. Stick around, because number seven on this list can produce twelve to fifteen pounds of berries from a single bush every single year. And number twenty is a super... Alright, let's see what we got here. after waiting five to seven years to mature, while the aronia is already producing heavily in year two or three. The berries aren't sweet-eaten fresh. They're intensely astringent, which is exactly why they've been used for centuries in juices, jams, syrups, and wine. That astringency comes from extraordinarily high levels of anthocyanins and polyphenols. The juice blends beautifully with sweeter fruits. The jam is incredible. And the dried berries are showing up in smoothie powders and health supplements everywhere right now. Modern agricultural research has confirmed what Eastern European farmers have known for generations. Aronia is one of the highest yielding. Okay, let's see these ones. Hascap, the first fruit of spring. Honeyberry might be the most exciting discovery in backyard food growing in the last twenty years. There's honeyberry. So all these things, I'll post this. Blackcurrant. My first question with any of those is what zone will they grow in? Well, a lot of the ones that I pulled are for the cold zones too. which is really interesting. So, you know, there, there are cold hardy ones. There's a couple of them that aren't. So you just got to look at that, but you know, there's a lot of fruit. Did you know that currents were outlawed in Michigan because they, they have a tendency to pick up and transfer back and forth the, from the white pines to the currents and one or the other had to go. So they decided to exterminate currents from Michigan in favor of of white pine well there's some new there's some new varieties now of currents that you can plant that don't they're they're resistant to that fungus which i think is really interesting so it's it doesn't have to be one or the other anymore i like white pines i'd like to grow a couple more of those out back because we have a lot of sand back there that's where those wild roses go I didn't even know we had wild roses back there until, I don't know, a few years ago, one day I looked out and all of a sudden there's these pink flowers all over the place. And I was like, what is this? I think it's some years they do better than others and they're kind of short lived. So I just didn't, didn't know, didn't know that they were growing back there, but those, yeah, well, these are, I don't know. I got some, what do you call them, rose hips from them. But I didn't do anything with it. I just preserved them because they're kind of, there's some work to deal with. But they are a source of vitamin C. If you want to do that, you can make rose hip tea. But they have little hairs on them you have to be careful of. So I didn't do anything further with them. But we have a white pine growing back there in the corner with the oak tree. right next to it. So I know they can grow out here but that area of the property is really, really sandy. So our property is really interesting. We don't get deer. Very rarely will we find signs of deer. We never see them. Really? We did have the bear that one time. We get possums. And I'm not happy with the rabbits because they took down one of my panicles. They got a new baby panicle and planted it. And they chopped it in half. And they left the branches there. Oh, yeah. And the thing is, there was two of them. I was out there with the dogs, and they chased one, and then a while later, the other, and they were babies. I don't know where they came from. So it's just in the middle of the daytime, they're not wandering through the middle of my yard when I'm out there in the garden with my dogs. It just doesn't make any sense. But if I see them and have an opportunity to do away with them, those rabbits are goners. You don't mess with that plant. We don't get wild turkey. I caught wild turkey barehanded at one time, which was kind of fun. How did you catch a turkey barehanded? Well, and I have video and photos to prove it. I probably showed it to you once upon a time, which you don't remember just now. But how did you catch it? That's the question. Well, one of my dogs has a wonderful recall. And she defaults to almost to heal. She wants to please me. So when we had two turkeys come into the yard, the most important thing to me was that the gate was open. If the turkeys ran out and the dogs wanted to chase them, they could end up in the road. So I didn't like this idea. I also didn't want them to spread any kind of diseases over to our chicken. So I thought, well, I'll, I'll, I'm going to make sure they exit the yard one way or another. Well, one of the dogs decided that those looked like really interesting giant chickens and they didn't belong here. And of course, I think his hearing was still good then. He's getting older now, but he did not want to recall. which is unusual for him. He's usually not that bad. But he decided to chase them. Well, one of them went running along the fence line and ended up in the corner behind that white pine and oak tree under there. And the other one hid under another low pine or spruce, whatever that is over there. And I got a hold of him and put the dogs in the house. over there and this thing is hiding underneath there so i'm kind of you know kicking around the ground and bustling the branches because i want it to flush out and then i'm going to try to get them to go over the fence or around the gate on the other side of the property but it didn't want to move and i'm getting closer and closer and it's not moving So I just reached down and grabbed it around the wings like a chicken and I picked it right up. Well, they're really long in the torso and long in the legs. And our fence is, oh, somewhere between four and five feet high. It's a, it's a like goat sheet fence. And I couldn't figure out, like, do I want to throw it over the fence here where this companion is down in the corner? So I just started, I pulled out my phone and I started filming me carrying this chicken, this turkey, and it's acting like a chicken. It's just looking at me and looking around. It must've been young and stupid. saw the other one and it started kicking and and then it very awkwardly got tossed over the fence and then I grabbed the other one that was in the corner because he couldn't figure out how to get over and he got over the fence and and then they booked it and I never saw but yes I have photos to prove it oh that's funny I have other tricky stories. We do crazy crap that nobody understands why we do it because it's just there and we have to. Well, I have more stories. Because it's kind of crazy because you have to, right? Well, you know, I'm just I have a lot of experience in wildlife rehab. Well, I shouldn't say a lot. I mean, there are people that have plenty more experience than I did, but I, I did an internship in college that I created just so I could spend time with a rehabber and, um, and that was a really cool experience. And then I worked for the Indiana DNR for a full season, fresh out of college while I was still trying to figure out what to do with my life. And. That was one of my best, my most favorite jobs. Yes, I had a government job, but I didn't have any hand in any of the politics of it. I got to observe it from an underling's perspective. But my job was to mostly to raise and release young animals and injured animals. But I also got to educate groups of children to adults on all kinds of wildlife. So, you know, I have some experience as a teacher in a teaching role, so that was fun for me. But also, I got to spend a lot of time with a lot of different kinds of animals that were native animals. wildlife of all kinds and i learned a lot that way so getting my hands on a wild turkey wasn't like something i was going to freak out about plus you know when you have chickens there's not a whole lot of difference from chickens they don't act like chickens but they are bird of fowls like that maybe everybody here is mad at one of my roosters right now you want another one because i don't want another rooster because ours is on the way out well i tell you what roosters are good for protecting the hens so like like if you get we have mink around here and such so and don't ever try to pet a mink have you ever heard of somebody trying to pet a mink i did and you know what happens bad things okay you don't pet a mink freaking thing's got like razor sharp teeth right unless you want to lose a finger But at any rate, we've got this one rooster. His name is Tanner. We call him Tanner, okay? He had Tanner for years. He's an old guy. And all of a sudden, he started being stupid lately. And I'm like, why are you guys tolerating this out of this rooster? All you got to do is pick him up and either hold him or something like that, and he'll start to stop being stupid and try to attack you. Just go down. What can a ten-pound bird realistically do? He's not even ten pounds. He's probably, what, six? Yeah. He's a big rooster, I'll give you that. But if he was on his fattest, biggest day ever, he wouldn't even tip the scales at ten pounds. So we're having a battle of rooster management right now, which I find kind of funny. Well, we're having our own. We had a conversation about it this morning because there's one down the road from us, and he and ours have crowing battles every day. And, well, ours is not really ours. There's a part of me that's like, well, he's not really ours to begin with. He just showed up. One day, Mr. Riveter come in the house and he said, honey, we got nine chickens out there. and we had eight the day before. Migratory domesticated. There's a rooster out there, and the hens are acting like there's nothing going on. He just showed up, and he made himself right at home, and they didn't care one iota. Well, he hasn't been until just recently. I think he kind of tested me, because I saw him out the corner of my eye. I think he was coming at me by from behind. I turned around and I gave him a look and I think he realized that wasn't going to work. But he came after Mr. Riveter the other day. And I saw him kicking at him from a distance and yelling at him. So that's not a good idea. But we kept him because he was going to be there to protect the girls. And he wasn't aggressive. And we had no problem with him. He wasn't even crowing because this was late last fall, I think, when he showed up. Or maybe early this spring. Anyway, no problems. Well, the one down the road has a typical cock-a-doodle-doo crow. Ours is like, if you cross, you know that meme with the liberal with the green hat that's screaming? The re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re-re. You would get the crow that this one does. Because it's like... Can you do that again? I want to hear that again. No. He has a screech in it. In the middle of it. It's not a nice throaty crocodile. It's like a... It's a horrible sound. And see, if I'm out there gardening in the backyard or just there in the shade enjoying myself, he doesn't go over to the other side of the fence, which is closer to the other rooster. He has to be on my side of the fence, close to the fence, to scream in my ear, basically. And it's like, no, go over somewhere else because it's like ear piercing. And he did one of those crows at four thirty this morning. I wear earplugs to bed most of the time because I mean, misophonia plus premenopause is not good if you want to sleep with a man in the room because his breathing is not going to do and anything. I don't want to hear anything when I'm he he always gets up earlier than me, too. And so I just want to be in that sleep. I knew nothing about this, but they had one of their crow offs this morning. Look at it loop. And all it is is, are you still there? Yes, I'm still here. Are you still there? Yes, I'm still here. Four thirty in the morning, he says, this isn't going to work. I think I always took it as they're smack talking each other. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. I'm going to kick your. Oh, yeah. I'm going to kick your. That's what you ever you ever see bulls do that. It's hilarious. No, I haven't. All right. I'm going to tell a bull story right now, because we have we have cattle. We have cattle on our property, not in Michigan, but another property we own. And so so we're sitting out myself and Mr. Brandenburg are sitting out on the porch one day and there's a bull that comes up and is near where we are. Right. So, of course, Mr. Brandenburg decides to agitate him because that's fun and starts making bull noises. And this bull is out there getting furious. He's looking around like, where are you? I'm going to kick your like this. He's just all kinds of man. Next thing you know, he's taking his hat and he is just bashing a bush in the middle of this pasture like crazy. He's just tearing into that bush like there's no tomorrow. And I'm like, I'm going in the house because that bad boy is going to come through that fence and up on the porch here, you know, to kick your tail in about a minute without knowing what you are, except for you're challenging him. It's kind of funny, but it's smack talking that happens all the time between, you know, between animals in the animal kingdom, especially the males that are out there. It is so, it is actually very funny. It's funny to watch, but I digress. You know, it'd be more interesting if they had a more complicated language. I don't think that would be more complicated. I think it's, I'm going to kick your, I'm going to kick your, I'm bigger than you. No, you're not. Well, see, you just said like three different things. They don't say that. They just say, I'm here. I'm here. I'm here. I'm here. And that's what it's like. And again, for somebody with mesophonia, like I don't care for that noisy, screechy repetition stuff. No, I just don't tolerate it. For all of you out there that don't have chicken experience or rooster experience, there's several things that you can do to calm them down. We actually train. our chickens so that they're not hostile. And so sounds crazy, but it's a firm way of life, right? We do crazy stuff. So at any rate, if you take a chicken or a rooster, that's being hostile and the whole society of chickens runs on shame. Okay. So if you take, you know, who's got, who's the biggest one in the pen, right? That's what it's all about. So if you take a rooster and you just put your hand on their back and one by their head and you just put them down on the ground, boom, I'm not talking body slam them. They're pretty fragile, but just hold them down on the ground for a while. The other chickens will make a circle around them. Go, go. How's that working for you? Big guy. And they get shamed and then they stop it. Right. The other way to do it for non-chicken people, if you ever have a rooster, have you ever been spurred by a rooster? I have, have you? No. No, because ours have never been, we've never had an aggressive one. Well, we didn't. I raised this one rooster from a baby, and I love this rooster. I called him Owl because he had the little, he looked like an owl, okay? His face did when he was little. And it was an Americana, so it was Americana. Okay, yeah, I got you. Roosters, right? But when they're born, they've got like this little mask. And he looked like this little owl. So I called him Owl. Okay, that's where it came from. So anyhow, I go out on the chicken pen one day, and I'm walking from the aviary into the chicken coop, which is a pretty good-sized chicken coop. I walk in there, and that little bugger decides to fly at me, spurs me right in the back of the legs. Luckily, I had snow pants on, so it did numb the legs. the spurs and such, but I turned around and I'm like going, you little bastard. I mean, that was my act, but that was my reaction. Right. So I just turned around and I just put a foot up and he kept going, bam, bam, bam, bam. He's hitting the foot until I just stood there until he got tired of it. Then he walks away and goes, I taught you. And I'm like, what did you teach me? You hit my boot, you know, but if you can grab the chickens and, you know, just get ahold of them, they're not really that difficult to get ahold of them. I'll tuck, We've got Tanner right now who's deciding he wants to be big man in the coop, right? So just pick Tanner up, stuff him under your arm for a little while or hold him on the ground and all the other chickens will make fun of him for a while. And then they decide, yep, this wasn't any fun. I guess I'm not going to do this again because they really don't like it. Behavior modification for a rooster who's gone stupid. Well, I had to research that kind of thing a little bit with the rabbit that I had. The one we named Patty. This show is totally off the rails. I love it. Patty was born on St. Patrick's Day, and his mama didn't do such a good job when they were born, and they got cold. I was watching for it, so I went out and was able to try to warm up some other ones, but he was a lone survivor. So I kept him in the house, and typically he was in my little hoodie pocket a lot to keep him warm, and then I'd have his mom feed him a couple of times a day. And so when he was old enough and it was warm enough that he could hold his body heat day and night, he went out and stayed with his mom. And then when he was ready to be weaned, we separated him out and he grew up and everything was fine. We moved him to a different location. Well, he started peeing on me. And when a rabbit pees on a male rabbit, You know Thumper from Bambi? Well, they'll stomp like that in their cage when they're mad or when they're afraid. It's a warning theater, so they'll like stomp one time. And they might hop a couple of times in the cage to let the other rabbits know something's not right or something's scaring them. Or if they're mad. Well, he will also take that hind foot, pee, spray, and kick in a lightning flash. Boom. Well, I was wearing my overalls a lot. It was probably during the winter when I was out taking care of the rabbits and cleaning the poop and giving them hay. And I got sprayed a few times over a while. He usually ended up having a bunch of water sprayed on him or I'd bop him in the head because I was not happy. And I was like, you better stop this. He never tried it with my husband. And I researched one of the things was they said, keep the cage lower than your level. So you're more intimidating. But nothing I did was really working. And so he didn't make it to his next St. Patrick's Day. It was like one day short of his birthday. You weaponized urination by farm animals. Well... And he was, I would carry him with me everywhere. So a lot of people got to see him and family and friends got to hold him. And he was all cute. When he started peeing on me, we had no use for him because his mother and the other dog, I think it was her sister. So he was not there for breeding purposes. So nope. He became somebody's Christmas dinner. I don't remember exactly what happened. I have a meme that says, Oh, you think I'm, Oh, you like these cuties. I'll have to find it and send it to you. Um, something about these, these little cuties. Um, And what you do with them, you know, I can butcher these cuties, something like that. I'll have to find it for you. It's not making much sense right now. Definitely a savage. Yeah, we're set. Now, I do have eight little babies now. I have chocolate Orpingtons and lavender Orpingtons and Brahmas and a couple of Americanas or Arakanas, whatever they are. And didn't you know something, Karen? You know where you get eggs from? Cans. The store. It's amazing. Well, I tell you what, my next guest is here. Thanks for coming on this morning. It's been a while. Talking about nothing. Talking about, you know, farm stuff and just taking a break in the action of getting, you know, all these serious topics that we covered here on BNN. Actually, you and I are pretty, I don't know, we have a good time together. We're pretty silly about a lot of things because we're farmers and farmers are crazy. So you had some really good shows last week. I haven't done. There's a couple of them I was going to at least post something about because they you had a lot of information in a few of those shows from last week. Yeah, I'm going to bring Renita in here and we're going to talk more about townships as well as school boards and all that sort of thing on the local level, making ourselves relevant in what our purpose is. That's another thing we talked about with Vicki this morning is that I have to have something I feel purposeful about or I'm just kind of done. I get bored with it, right? I'm not going to play a million rounds of golf. I'm not going to go sit on the beach for a million hours. I got to be doing something, you know, or else my quality of life is just not there because I don't value those things. I want to solve problems. Right. And a lot of people don't know how to be active on a local level. So this is where we're going. Morning, Renita. How are you doing? Good morning. Doing well. Good. Well, you got any last words here, Karen? And then I'm going to go. Bye. We're good friends, guys, just so you know. I mean, this is part of our funny friend dialogue we go back and forth with. Oh, I was supposed to look out for Aurora last night, and I forgot. I don't know if tonight is another night to look out for Aurora Borealis up here, but I might just have to check into that. But otherwise, just everybody be careful with the heat. get the fans ready, the air conditioning, whatever, hydrate, take care of yourselves. Don't worry. Get out in the morning, get in your garden like I do. And don't stress. It's going to turn out okay. That's the way it is. You know, I got to believe that God's in control and that, that, you know, we may go through some get better probably just for teaching us. Cause we've been kind of like dumb bunnies that sit on the road waiting for somebody to, come along and roadkill us, right? We got to get a little smarter about this and not only get out of the way of the threats, but kind of end the threats. So at any rate, thanks for coming on this morning, Karen. And I'm going to backstage you. How's that? I'll leave. Oh, okay. Bye. Bye. Bye. bam, and now it's us. So how are you doing this morning? Doing well. Good. I have been having more fun looking into some of the things that you brought to, that you've been bringing to the forefront here and just really amazing. So what are we talking about today? You sent me an outline. So today I thought we would focus more on township governments. Again, something else I've Been attending meetings for the last four and a half years locally for our township that we live in and Homer Township on the west side of Midland. Just for a little background information for those that may not realize it, Michigan has eighty three counties and we have twelve hundred and forty two civil townships. And those townships have five to seven elected board members. Typically, you have your supervisor, your clerk, your and then you have anywhere from two to four trustees. So roughly, seventy-two hundred elected positions across the state for just the townships. So that's why Michigan Township Association is the organization that basically governs that group from the standpoint of training and information and workshops and things like that. So I got a big question here, okay, with this Michigan Townships Association. I thought that the direction was supposed to come from we the people, not them the communist organization that's programming from the top down and grooming everybody to fall in line with a statewide management of our townships. Now that's what I'm seeing here. Am I off base here or have I got this figured out? Well, because I'm not an elected public servant, I can't attend those actual meetings, so I don't know what training goes on in person. I'm part of the online training community that we have access to. But as far as what they tell supervisors and stuff in person i'm not sure and even that level of training that they do for the specific clerk treasurer and supervisor those are paid trainings they aren't included with the free training i have access to right now so Why don't they just go to Common Sense? That's what I'm wondering. And asking the people in the townships, instead of going to like Michigan Townships Association, which honestly, we caught somebody who was part of that committing a crime at one point in time and should be fined over a hundred thousand dollars for what this person did. And so that's the opinion I have of this association is that You know, I know that there was a crime committed by somebody who's part of it. And that's it's unfortunate. So that makes everything to me in question. Right. And I get that. I guess the biggest thing I see from my active participation in a variety of aspects of government locally is we the people need to show up and educate ourselves in order to start making some differences. If we're waiting for we the people to actually do something to govern ourselves, we'll continue to wait. Because what we see is typically if you have four to eight people showing up at meetings, you're doing well. And that's out of three thousand adults. So there's just not enough active participation. And as much as I've been trying to proactively get people involved locally, it's still just a very small core of us that will show up and speak up and do things. Well, and they do think specifically the situation or the establishment, whether it's the Uniparty or the Township Association or all of these actions that are being taken by planning commission or planning organizations that are for profit outside trying to link up all the municipalities for water monopolies and all that sort of thing. It is definitely a top-down structure and the people at the bottom are getting some sort of a favor kickbacks or whatever, whether it be building or developing or any of that, when you see what they're really going after in the townships, it is to... Basically, the biggest thing I've seen is for building or development of the area. And that's taking our resources and not giving a crap about the people. And they keep raising the taxes. And the way they do that is through the building and developing and such. I mean, this is really, really crazy. And I talked to you about this before. I actually had... a discussion with somebody within the FBI when I was doing some investigation of some of this. And the guy flat out said it. He said, you're watching a township takeover of the state of Michigan. Well, they're all getting their training from Michigan Township Association. So why are we not putting the finger right there on them and find out why are they not allowing we, the people who paid for the training materials, who are paying for this, have any oversight of our township involvement in it. I don't get it. This is not the way this is supposed to work. Right. And I agree that there are a lot of things that we don't quite have a grip on who's pulling the strings to do which parts in townships. whether it's the data centers or the other things being brought in and throughout the state. So, and for me, I try to focus on what I can do something about and have tried to teach myself so that I'm able to go in and speak with a little bit of knowledge. As I mentioned last week, that was one thing in the constitution class, they said, get in and learn their rules and policies because If we don't know those, then it's very difficult to help to enforce them. And that's why I've done the training and things. That's why I go to the meetings. And this is where everybody can do something locally to make a difference. And they don't all need to commit the amount of time that I perhaps have in the last five years that my husband and I attend these meetings. but it has been the way to get in and learn and watch. And I'm on the board of review, which is an appointed position. And that was a way just to get into learning more, which then gives me access to the mid Michigan township association, because then I have access to emails that go around and communications that take place. And the townships have an option to offer training that for two thousand dollars we can get unlimited training so there's over a hundred and thirty courses that we can take and those are free for a whole year and that's what i've been spending quite a bit of time this year getting training that way i know what to look for in our board meetings i know what to look for from the treasurer from the clerk or the supervisor who has what roles so it's there i'm not sure how many In the township that are elected, individuals have actually taken any of the training, which they're the ones that should be because they're the ones that control the meetings. But I'm trying to educate myself to at least be able to make public comments from an informed position about how things maybe should be done that I don't see being done a certain way. Yeah, it's always our involvement. You know, if we wait for somebody else to fix our problems, they're probably going to be people that are psychopaths that float to the top for self enrichment. And we see that happening all over the place. So, I mean, the answer is us. It's not them. And when when we step up and do our jobs, not based on money, but civic duty, because we love our neighbors, our family, God and the gifts he's given us. then things get righted. So you want to go to the, I'm looking at your outline here. I love how organized you are. This is great and it's easy to follow. So I appreciate you putting this stuff together so that I can have a little bit of direction here on the subject matter. All right. Well, one thing I mentioned last week is the Open Meeting Act, which is just an eight-page document. I recommend people to go out and get that off of the government site and it will allow you then to find out what's required for meetings, the posting of meetings. They should be, if your township has a website, they should be posted on there so you know the schedule of those meetings. It also, if they have a special meeting, they are to notify the public at least eighteen hours in advance. And there are certain meetings like the annual budget meeting review and stuff that they actually have to have a hearing and posted in the newspaper that they are going to be doing a budget meeting, a budget hearing so that the public's informed. Of course, newspapers are not read as frequently as they used to be. So finding those public hearing notices are a little more difficult in most newspapers. Um, so you do need to stay in touch and it is to be posted on the website. So that's something that people need to be aware of and anyone can record meetings. Like our township does not record or live stream their board meetings. They never have. And so that is something that about a year ago, I started recording the meetings and we created a Facebook page. so that I can post links to those videos so people that can't or aren't available to attend the meetings can go back and review the meeting later. Also allows us to highlight certain topics or issues and put a shorter video out just to let the community see that. So that is helping to inform a little more. And I know that's being done around the state. Other people have started recording more of their own meetings. putting them out for the public. And I think that's helpful. It's something townships could do, but it's okay. We set up a tripod and do our own recording and transfer it. You are the news. So yes. So we, we inform the public and that's been one of the goals is how to communicate and broaden our reach within the township, because there really is no way that the township can communicate. We do a, they do a newsletter twice a year. with the tax bill and that's the communication of course there's one problem with that is all of those homes that are renters will never see those newsletters for the most part because they go to the home owner not the current resident oh man that's that's like all kinds of messed up so yeah here's your tax bill we're screwing you and now in the newsletter we're going to tell you that it's going to be fine just go with it you know well and there are things that are happening in the township that the local renter doesn't know about. So that's something that we're trying to figure out. How do we get that? And we suggested, you know, why don't we do an email newsletter? When we first moved here, there was an email newsletter, and then it all of a sudden disappeared. And when I asked a couple years ago at a meeting, why we don't do that, and they're like, oh, because nobody wanted to give us their emails. That wasn't very effective. And I'm like, okay, we I asked when the last time was they had really tried it, and it was about the time we moved in. So it was working at one point. And so we have no way, if the township wanted to communicate with the residents, there really is no way that they have to get a message to the residents. And so that's why we set up a Facebook page that's just, you know, friends of Homer Township. So we can let people in the public know about things going on. We tell them when meetings are happening or whether there's an issue or if we're offering something new at the parks and things like that. So again, it's our attempt to make sure we keep people more informed if they choose to be. So we're working on that. And those public comments, all those open meeting acts also require that there's public comment at every public meeting. So what do you do when they put it at the end of the meeting after they vote? That's what Byron Township has done. You really have no vote because they are voice. They do everything and then say, okay, well now we're going to give you a few minutes at the end of the meeting to say anything yet, but it's too late. There's no input by the people at all. And those are things that the people can encourage change with though, by making public comments, by talking to the board members. And like in our case, we get, we're very flexible in our township, which we really appreciate from our board is we have public comment at the beginning, and then we have public comment on each vote that is taken throughout the meeting. And then we have public comment at the end, which is consistent with the way our commissioners, county commissioners board also works. But that's something that Yes, I agree. There are some that do not do that. And I've sat in meetings where public comment only happens at the very end. So you never got a chance to have a response to anything. You have no chance to have a response that's at the end. And that you have to look at that and say it's intentional. They know what they're doing and they're not representing the people. So there are lots of instances of them shutting us up. with no recourse. And then they run as soon as the meeting ends, they run through the back door because a lot of them don't want to face the people. It's done. We've decreed and we're out of here. And a lot of townships don't have regular office hours that you can even track people down from the township board to talk to them. Or in some cases, like I've run into, you can send emails and try to get ahold of people and they don't respond. So yeah, That is an issue. So I would just recommend first step is check out your township website. Find out what's on there. Look through the resources, the links. See how up to date they are. Do they have job descriptions? Do they have their ordinance posted and policies? And in our case, do they have things that they say they're going to do that they actually don't do? And that's where we hold them accountable by saying that might be an issue. And that was one of the things we ran into with the budget process last year when we attended was the board voted to give themselves all a pay raise. And of course they did. I challenged that going, you guys have a compensation committee. How do you It's supposed to be five people from the community that get together and discuss the compensation of the board members. Well, they go, oh, well, we haven't done that for over probably ten years. And I'm like, but it's on your website as one of your ordinances that you will put together a compensation committee. So it can't be your cousin or your brother. Yeah. Well, and they want to compare themselves to other townships and they go, oh, well, These guys are comparable and they get this pay. Well, there's a difference because that township actually earns interest on their money. We weren't. We earned very little interest given the amount of money we had. And when the other township is earning enough interest that they're actually able to pay almost all of their board salaries for a whole year and we're not, it's like, but we want to compensate everybody at that same level. So again, the public should be the ones doing this, not the people voting for raises for themselves. So just one of those things that why it's good to read their ordinances and make sure there are things and job descriptions, they should have job descriptions. So how do you hold people accountable to do their job? If there's no job description posted, we don't have them listed for our township. That's one of the things I'm, working on to try to encourage that those need to be in place. I mean, if you're bringing in a deputy clerk or a deputy treasurer, there should be some expectation of their qualifications when they come in. I think I mentioned last week, deputy clerk, treasurer, and supervisors, they are all selected by the elected individual. So the board doesn't have to approve them. Nobody can do anything about it unless there's something criminal that they've done. And so if you have no expectations or a job description that says these are qualifications that they should minimally try to meet in order to be in those positions. So we had a situation in our township where our treasurer hired her son, no qualifications. And that for some of us is an issue because were having concerns with how she's doing her job, but she said she would train her son. So that doesn't work out real well. Yeah, it's such a nepotistic, you know, crap. It's like make work on the taxpayers for her son. That's not how this is supposed to work. Well, I thought deputies might be a good way to help cross-train people that would perhaps take over the position. when the current ones step down or we rotate out. But I was told in our township that, no, that's not our concern. MTA will train whoever comes in. We don't need to worry about that. Oh, back to MTA. There you go. MTA, just go ahead and put your whole family on the payroll here a minute because we're going to take care of you. And you just have to follow the communist plan here. And it doesn't matter. The people can't do anything anyway because we have pretended legislation to protect you. How did I do? It's a little backwards. And that's why sitting in these meetings for years now and watching and listening to this, we've learned a lot. Renita, you're very nice. You realize I would go in and say, what is this kind of bullshit going on here? Well, you know, I mean, you're very nice about it, you know, very nice about it. But it's like it's like I think a few mouthy people would probably be helpful to Renita. Well, I guess part of it is I like to provide some remedy and give people an opportunity to do the right thing. It's when you try to offer remedy, as I did in the school situation, and they refuse it. then it requires moving up to the next steps, which is why I ended up in the lawsuit issue. So I guess I approach it from that standpoint. I want to give them a remedy first and then give them an opportunity to correct their ways. Yeah, well, just for all of them out there, just so they know, remember what happened in the Revolutionary War. That's all I can say right now. You know, the British stopped listening. The loyalists stopped listening to the patriots and the people that are paying the bills usually ends poorly eventually. Well, we will do what we can in the meantime. And thankfully, there are advancements taking place. I mean, we are making progress. They are making some changes. I think I mentioned records retention last week. You know, that's something I learned from the training and we have been able to go in and help start doing some cleanup because it seems unfair to me to have people in elected positions for, you know, twelve, fifteen, twenty years not doing all that's expected of them. And then they walk away and the new person comes in and they get the same paycheck. but they actually have a desire to do all of what's expected of them. So now they have twenty years of record clean up, which is an enormous amount of time to do that. So we've gotten to work with the board to have a few of them come in and we work on cleaning up some records because it hadn't been done for a few decades. And watch how these people move around to different positions too. It's like they don't just stay in one. It's like, okay, you know, special agent subversionist expert was going to sit in here at the supervisor level. And then guess what? We're going to shuffle them to another place here. And then do you ever wonder how many pensions these guys are, are actually pulling down? I guess that's something I don't watch too much, but that's our township's pretty small. And, um, it's, you know, that kind of stuff I don't see happening. So I can't speak for what's going on in the other townships. Oh, I've heard of that with people getting a pension. And as soon as they get that pension, they move to another government office, which qualifies them for another pension. And then they go, they go from one to the next to the next. And then it's, it's just, it's just kind of crazy. I mean, it's something that everybody should be looking out for my opinion. Well, I did income tax for about ten years too. And for other people in companies and Can't say I saw too many people with multiple pensions. There were only a couple. And I did quite a few thousands worth of those tax returns. So. Good to know. Just another little hat I've worn over the years. Good to know, but definitely something to look at, you know? Yeah. So, so yeah. And then financial, like right now we're in the middle of a budget process because our fiscal year starts July first. So Township has to have their budget. reviewed and public hearing before the start of the next budget year. So ours will be taking place this month and we have a meeting tomorrow night to finish up the budget process, which again, the public doesn't show up to. There are only a couple of us in our small group that show up and watch it. And there'll be a public hearing next Thursday, next Wednesday at seven o'clock before the regular meeting. Unfortunately, having the budget that is going to be approved out did not happen last year, which it's kind of odd that you can have a budget hearing, but not have a budget. It is available if you ask, but it wasn't in a very clean form. So that's one of the suggestions I will make tomorrow night at the meeting that we get our budget in a format that looks very professional and easily read by the public. So, Those are things, again, just to keep an ear for to find out what's going on with the money in your township, how much is coming in, where is it being spent, what capital projects do they have going on, that type of stuff. So yeah, that'll be taking place soon. The other thing in terms of finances is the audit process, which I'm finding the audits tend to be more about crossing your T's and dotting your I's than actually monitoring for any significant issues or fraudulent type behaviors because those aren't really part of the crossing the T's and dotting the I's. They frequently take place somewhere else and can be kind of lost in the numbers. So whether it's the school board or the townships, we did get a copy of an audit report for a couple of years Because we sat in a meeting and at the end of the audit, the presenter added some additional comments. And then when I asked for a copy of the audit, I was like, where did those comments go? And they go, oh, that's a supplement to the audit. Yeah. Then I look at the supplement to the audit and it basically said this isn't for public use. And I was like, no, well, actually it is because according to FOIA, anything they get is available to the public. So the fact that they even had that on their document was kind of interesting. But we started reading through it and we noticed that there was a custodial credit risk and it was for investments and deposits. And I was reading it and you know how the banks have the two hundred and fifty thousand FDIC. Yeah. Well, so if a township has three banks, they basically only have seven hundred and fifty thousand protected. So I was kind of curious, I'm like, well, what happens to all the rest of it? Because it basically says that the rest of your balance was exposed to custodial credit risk because it was uninsured and uncollateralized. And they took it? Or lost it? They haven't lost it, but every audit report that I have looked at, because I had some people pull them from other townships, have that same statement in them. So basically, if there's a catastrophic financial crash of some sort, they're saying, If you have four hundred or four million dollars, you have seven hundred and fifty thousand protected and the other is at risk of being lost. OK. And so that and so we asked at one of the board meetings, we're going, don't know how many of you have read this. And we found out actually pretty much nobody had read these audit reports. Now, this is something our township pays eleven thousand dollars for every year. Same company, same company. You know what the company name is? Yeah, this is AHP. I think they're a local company, but they've been doing ours for a long time. But they note on there that we consider the following deficiency in the township's internal control to be a material weakness. One of the required procedures outlined in the state of Michigan's accounting procedures manual for local units of governors, governments in Michigan, is that all cash accounts should be reconciled to their respective bank statements monthly. And so what's interesting is they have been written up for this for four or five years now. I told you there's a website that talks about where you can find your township audits and you can actually go out to that and look at what your township has had for results in their audits. This deficiency letter was sent out to the township. They had two deficiencies. They only addressed one deficiency and the other one they never responded to, even though the state says you have two weeks to respond to your deficiencies. And so that was the way I was like, well, that doesn't make any sense. What happens to deficiencies that they just don't do? Our reconciliation is, for the last few years I've been paying attention to it, has been one to five months behind. So for a law that says you are, for best practices, supposed to be doing this every month, I'm like, how do we get two, three, four, five months behind and it's not an issue? And yet the auditor comes in and just notes it as a material deficiency problem. So I took our audit reports and I sent a copy of that along with my concerns and documentation of how far behind they were on reconciling their accounts. I sent it to the state treasury and I got a nice little response that basically said, thank you for the information. We appreciate your concern and we will contact your local governing body. So. As a person in the public, they don't have to tell me anything. And I did follow up with my supervisor, and after a couple months, he had not heard any response to it. So they tell the public, we'll get with your local governing body, and then they don't. And if they did, I'm not sure what channel it went through that he didn't actually end up seeing it. So this is a concern. Again, until enough voices show up, and make things an issue, they aren't really noticed and not much happens. So again, I'm trying the route of try to help educate the board members that'll listen, encourage that we make some changes. And there was a change that was made. We've done quite a bit. And I did a little clip from our last board meeting in May because the board took a vote of no confidence And I explained that doesn't have any legal liability stuff or any legal force behind it. It's more just to let the community know that we don't have confidence. Not only were the accounts not being reconciled by the clerk and treasurer, the other thing is the treasurer is supposed to provide on a monthly basis, a financial statement of the township monies. That's one of their main jobs. I have only seen one of those reports in the four and a half years of attending these meetings. Wow. The last one I saw was in January last year. So for a year and a half, there's been no statements. So what I've been doing is FOIAing all the bank records so that I can put together my own financial statement to know what's going on with the monies for the township. And in doing that, that was when I realized that we had significant amount of money, a couple million that was basically making no interest. So in this, that was one financial report from back in twenty twenty two, four and a half million dollars in the township, and they made two hundred and two dollars in interest. And. That was a rather shocking thing for us to go, wait a minute, how do you have all that money and you don't make any interest? And the answer when we brought that up at a board meeting, the treasurer's response was that you don't make money on interest in checking. We were like, well, should maybe we not have a million dollars sitting in checking where we make no interest? That's like one of the dumbest responses a person could give. It was a little shocking that that was an excuse because I mean, I know we manage money in a way that we try to make interest. So we don't leave all of our money sitting in checking or even a big portion of it. So there's a thing called Michigan class that actually allows for much better interest. And so basically we, just brought up the fact that we've lost maybe a hundred thousand dollars in interest per year for the last couple of years and probably much longer. So there comes this time when they get to the budget and they're discussing trash collection and they're like, oh, we're not breaking even. We need to charge an extra twenty five dollars a year to all of the residents. Well, our trash collection is twenty five thousand a month for the whole township. So I'm looking at it going, a hundred thousand in interest would have paid four months of our trash collection for the whole township. And you didn't have a problem with losing that, but our trash has gone up fifty percent in the last five years. So my question is, is I would want to look at, too, you know, you talked about the loss of of interest. But I'm wondering if I'm wondering if there's more to the story that needs to be investigated, you know, not just in confidence, because it's just, you know, they've all lost trust with me, you know, I say it, but I don't trust one thing that these people do. I don't think they are who they say they are. I think they've got other connections behind the scenes. We've got spouses that are working for questionable agencies, which are interacting with the townships and such. I mean, look at the spouses and you'll find out a lot of information. Just like Benson's husband, the Secretary of State, is involved in commerce on the state's behalf. They're taking advantage of the position of their spouses. And so I would, I'm not saying that anybody did. It's either one of the two though, it's either gross negligence and incompetence, you know, maladministration and, or, you know, to look it out for the fiduciary responsibility of the township or it's intentional, which goes into a real bad place. Right. Well, and there can be conflict of interest and other things going on. So, so yeah, so that's, Those are some of the things that we're trying to bring to the forefront. Again, FOIA is a way to get information on townships if you're not seeing it on their website. If their financials aren't clear, you can FOIA. You can ask for copies of bank statements. You can look at information. One of the things when I did a FOIA last year for bank statements, I got the statements for July and August and found out that tax return or property tax statements went out first of July. People started paying them, dropping off checks and everything. There were no deposits that took place until the middle of August. So for seven weeks about money was coming into the township and the treasurer and deputy treasurer were not depositing them. Which brings a whole lot of other things up in the question there too. So, and the public started having to make calls going, because other people actually reconcile their accounts on a regular basis. And they're like, why didn't my check process? It's been in there for weeks and weeks. And that was brought up at a township meeting. And the response was basically that, well, I don't, you know, the mail can be tied up for two or three weeks before I get it and all this. And we're like, yeah, these are people that dropped them off in the box at the building. And I want to tell a lie, at least tell a good one instead of a childish one. That's ridiculous. Well, and that's what happened. I mean, it was like, no, these were checks that bottom line was she wasn't in the office and neither was her deputy because her son was with her. And therefore the bank deposits did not take place. And that is one of their biggest months as a treasurer. And so they actually get a supplement from the state to the townships to help compensate treasures because of all the work they're supposed to be doing in the summer. And we're like, wait, ours is on vacation for six, seven weeks during that time. How is that working? I don't know what to say. So these are just things that that's why we sit, stand up, make comments, why we go and pull the financial documents so that we can see what's really going on. And some of it. So training is an interesting thing. Border review. We have to get training every two years to continue to be on the border review. For those that don't know, Board of Review is where you go if you have questions about your property tax, you question how much they are, your assessed value, your taxable value. And the Board of Review decides if they're going to make a change or not. And if they don't make a change you want, then you can move on to the next level. And so that we have to go to training every two years. But I find it interesting. I don't believe there is any mandatory training for our elected public servants. So they can get into the office and be in there for a decade or two. And they don't have to have refresh training because I'm like these videos that I've been watching, even though MTA may have questionable things from your perspective, they do have decent training. And I'm like, if the individuals in these roles actually did the training and reviewed it, they would find out that what they're doing in their jobs in a lot of cases, or at least in our township, they need to make changes because they're not doing it. And when I've asked people, they're like, well, that was how I was trained by my predecessor when I took office. Well, then that just, if they're not doing it right, you're now not doing it right for another generation of whoever's in that position. So I've, tried to encourage that the board watch some of these videos because I think they would see, well, wait a minute, the treasurer is supposed to give us a report every month on the status of our finances. They actually had no idea they weren't making interest on their money because they never asked and they never saw it. And I know that sounds negligent, but I'm just like, so this is why I'm slowly trying to educate and encourage that some things change. And, you know, same thing for some of the other positions. It's like, well, we didn't know there was a different way to do a budget process. This is just the way we've always done it. There you go. There's the statement that comes out all the time. This is just the way it's done. This is the way that it's always done. This is what we do. This is our policy. Well, look at what they're doing with you just brought up the Board of Review for the taxation. The taxation is totally unconstitutional. And the people have absolutely just jumped on board. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I want a job here and I'm going to do exactly what they tell me to do. And the problem is, is they're breaking the law and they're breaking the law. The biggest thing that I think people need to remember is that they're taxing you on unrealized gain when they do it. This is a taxation that they just make up. They're literally assigning a property value based on what they think it's worth while the developers and the builders are rigging that whole process by having things that they jack the prices up on. So they've got comps that are three to four times what the normal area is, and they sell it to themselves or in order to bring the taxable value up. Now they're charging everybody else around them on unrealized taxable gain before you sell it. And you're going to pay that every year, which is putting you in the hole every single time you pay a tax bill on their fairyland idea of what your taxes should be. So they've got a bigger budget to pay for. This is so backwards. It's unbelievable. Well, and that feeds into people saying when they sell bonds for the schools or for other things, they say that, you know, oh, well, you won't see an increase in your taxes. Yeah, you do. Every time the taxes go up. So we've gone up almost, what is it, fifteen percent in the last four years or five years. I think only one time in the last fifteen years when I went back and looked at property tax statements, was there actually a minor decrease in Otherwise, it just keeps going up zero to five percent every year or more. Well, no, actually, the Hedley caps it at five percent. Right. Well, I have more than one piece of property and I can only homestead one because they're all they're all kind of attached. But I bought them separately. And it's like I'm over forty grand a year in property taxes and in the thievery. in Byron Township here. Unrealized gain. They've tried to kick me off the land. They've destroyed my well. They have hidden tax bills. It's all this harassment that those of us who have land get every single day. There's tax, there's stuff. It's crazy. Well, and I'm not at that level of large properties so i'm not sure how all of those oh yeah farming land now so there's no farmland in byron township so any of you idiots that are moving out here you think you're moving into a rural community they literally change the zoning to zero farmland so that all of them who are builders developers appraisers and that sort of thing plumbers on the board so they can all sit there and have more land to develop and they they are breaking this out so fast that you're going to be in a highly populated urban area very quickly. And they're doing it everywhere because what they do, it's like the hungry, hungry caterpillar. It just keeps eating and eating and eating, eating, eating until they've taken up all the resources in the area. Then they're going to move to another one right next door and they're going to tie it together. It's, it's insane. Well, it is a, There are a lot of different issues and each township I think has their own little unique set. So there's some general topics that cover the elected people and then how things are managed in that township. Again, I read stuff online where I see some say things happen behind the scenes that they don't even know what's happening until there's a vote. And again, if the community doesn't really know what's happening, they don't do much. We had an issue here with a data center trying to come into a tow They ended up, they scheduled a meeting at their township hall, but then they immediately adjourned it and moved to a high school auditorium because they knew, or a church, I guess it was, that they knew there was going to be a big crowd. So they moved it to a larger venue and they had all the public comments and they actually voted it down. But it's, then I hear other people go, yep, they'll just go to the next township and find a friendly farmer there willing to sell off their property and put it in, in that place instead. So. Well, our township won't even listen to us. You know, we expressed ourselves. And Don Tilma actually just stood right up. This project is going through, and you people can't stop it. The contempt of, and I mean, I think this is all stuff for people to watch because we've got a mixed bag here, but if you're not involved, you don't see how bad it is or the deficiencies and what they're running. And they're not, if they're in it for the take, if they're in it for commerce, you are not going to stop it by just showing up one time and you're going to have to stay on them. Well, and I think Celine was a case where the data center, the public, stood up and spoke. The board voted. The company that wanted to do the data center came back and filed a lawsuit. Saleen couldn't fight it, so they ended up getting their data center in Saleen. So even if the people do stand up, There are other people with more money behind them. Yeah, BlackRock will send all of their attorneys and they'll just paper you to death. Which brings us back to the injustice system that's going on in the United States. We do not have a justice system. But I'm going to chip something out there because I've fought in the court systems and I'm still fighting. In fact, I've got lots and lots of oars in the water right now. And when this thing comes to fruition, it's going to be kind of shocking. There's no getting out of it. If you go to constitutional claims rather than the state courts, go right straight to federal court because the state courts are not the correct courts. They've flipped them into administrative courts, which is just revenue generation. And when you look at the amount of judgments that are just for money, Of course they're going to do that because they're taking a percentage of it or sticking it in their Benny's packages and everything else. And so they want to revenue generate. They are not about justice at all. The state courts in Michigan are corrupt all the way up to the Supreme Court. So there's no point in wasting your time with these people because they have no interest. They have absolutely no interest in anything that is remotely even has the appearance of justice. Right. Well, obviously in the midst of my lawsuit, it's very difficult when, you know, as a member of the community and you're standing up giving public comment at school board meetings, again, trying to go the route of giving a remedy, before doing anything else and being ignored and ignored by the school board members that we elect supposedly to represent us, but they don't speak up for us. They don't defend us. They don't even actually want to hear you because they never followed up after public comments to ask more about it. Turn around and go, sure. If we've got a policy in place now that says you have to take us to court. So, They don't make the decision to do what they could do, which was to have taken my comments and said, OK, we'll make them free for the agenda packets. Instead, the solution was, well, no, our policy says you have to take us to court. So basically, we don't have to listen to you and we'll let our insurance fight a battle, unlimited resources against you. Yeah, exactly. And see, let's go back to this whole FOIA thing. Why is it that we have to pay for FOIAs? It's our information. We already paid for that work to be done. There are quick, easy ways to make this searchable and get it out there so that it's in front of everybody so that we have everyone auditing this all the time and asking questions. They don't want us to have that information because they want to walk around like they're little pathetic kings and queens saying, we've got all the power and peasants. Don't ask us for this information, peasants, because they try to hide all of it. There should never have to be a FOIA process. It should be instantly available and searchable, and we have the ability to do that. Why they refuse to do the correct thing is just because it's intentional. That was intentional long ago, so... There were a lot of things not computerized and so quick to generate. So it was like if you wanted a report, they had to make copies of it for you. Well, that's not the way it is anymore. Pretty much everything's digitized. And it just takes a quick query on a computer to generate. Give me all the emails that have these words in them. it's a five-minute job. And yet they're like, oh, sorry, we've got to go pull all of those. And I understand redacting can take time, but depending what you're asking for, there's no redacting to be done. They sure as heck can get on and buy the best computer equipment for everybody there, whether they're employed directly by the townships or not. They sure as heck know how to get it into their hands to make things easy. But when it comes to the records for us, oh, let's just destroy all the election records. Jonathan Brader, who admitted to it in court and all that sort of thing. We're just going to destroy those records. So because we just don't need to keep them anymore because it takes up so much space, that much space, that much space. And they can't keep it because they're hiding it. Yeah, well, that's crazy. We keep trying. And I mean, I guess that's what I would recommend is. People need to show up. They need to be consistent and they need to train themselves in what is expected by law from these individuals so that you know whether or not they're actually following the law. And when they're not, you need to call them out on it and hopefully they'll make some changes. But if they don't, then that's something that you then have to move and get a little more public. And we do have some recalls going on in our county because of Excellent. Elected individuals that are not doing what they should be. And we have a right. And I mean, that's the thing that when I talk to people elsewhere and I make a comment about the fact that our accounts aren't reconciled on a monthly basis, we can get two to four months behind. The immediate response is, so is there embezzlement going on? Because that's the assumed reason that you don't get your books done in a timely manner. And I've been involved in church finances. And we reconciled either the last day of the month or the first day of the next month. We didn't even cut another check until our books were reconciled. And in our township, they're writing checks three, four, five months. We actually haven't even, last I knew last week, had not even finished our audit which began in August last year, should have been done in November. Oh, but they're so busy screwing the population. They don't have time to do their jobs. Well, I kind of question why our books are in such bad shape that it takes them so many months to try to figure out what we're doing. And again, it's township money. We're paying for it, for them to do the audits and try to sort all this stuff out. and so really all we can do at this point is to keep showing up keep talking keep training ourselves and learning and then trying to hold them accountable the best we can and sadly there's not a lot of support at the state level either to help give us any kind of recourse i mean you can send stuff to attorney general and say, this isn't working for this aspect. And they don't even respond. They don't want to, because they're given the orders. You look at Jonathan Brader who admitted that he gave the, I saw the order to tell the clerks to destroy election records, basically, or handed over what they, I mean, he admitted doing this. The state is literally giving the orders, just like you can look at the structure. The MTA is giving orders that, to the clerks on how to function. That's what training is, you know, and it has nothing to do with, with anything other, you know, that, that has to do with the public or the people paying the bills. They've stepped right over our, right over us and they're ruling from above, which is unfortunately the Marxist way of doing things. So I think what's going to come out and, and I had a great call this morning by somebody that we were talking about how the NGOs and the, and the, You know, all of these nonprofits that are out there are literally the problem or the source of subverting and controlling the United States. You know, a lot of it. I mean, there's more than that. But the politicians are just puppets. And if they can get people to just go along with what they tell them to do instead of knowing what they're doing, they're just like, oh, yeah, yeah, I got to listen to this person. I got to vote for this group or I got to, you know, the Republicans, Democrats, I got to vote for them because it's the only way to win. Well, they're breaking the law. That should be the first step in any decision. Are they breaking the law? Oh, you don't know the law. Okay, now there's a problem. Now you're complicit in this because ignorance of the law is not an excuse. And it just keeps rolling. And they want to keep us ignorant. They want to keep us stupid. They want to keep us tied up with busyness and just trying to make a living and put us into survival. It's going to get worse unless... We step up and do our jobs. It's not going to get better. And so everyone needs to run for office, go to your meetings as you're, you know, to your point, get involved in auditing, look at the stuff, ask the hard questions. They're not going to like it because it is questioning their honor. Well, it needs to be questioned because they're part of the problem. Right. Well, and like I said, thankfully in our township, as bad as it is. And I've had people, when I ask questions of other townships or even county people, they'll go, oh, well, a lot of townships don't do this stuff. And so I could go, oh, okay, then we're just an average person or average township not doing our jobs well. And I go, I guess my goal is to make our township exemplary rather than average or below average. That's part of why we have spent so much time and energy trying to make a difference and to change things. We didn't have a FOIA coordinator per se. The clerk was doing it just by default. And when I said, you know, by law, we're actually supposed to have a FOIA policy and a designated FOIA coordinator. Well, they did get one within a few months after that. They got their paperwork together and put that in place. So it's little steps and it's a very long, slow process, but it is making a difference. And so that's why I say, I know there's stuff that isn't the way we would like it from a control perspective from the state down, but locally, if you get into your township and can bring a few people with you to start stepping up, I mean, we always offer to help and do what we can. it's like, I don't want to tell them you got to do this and this, and then not offer any assistance if I'm able. So we step up, like I said, records retention. We went in and spent five hours helping them sort through paperwork. So, and the other thing is we like to try to develop positive community things. So we started four years ago. Well, this will be our fourth year of doing a community picnic for our township. And it's, The first year we did it, just volunteer. We funded it all and everything. Now it's part of the Parks and Rec reach out to the community to bring some community. So we had two hundred and seventy five last year, probably three hundred this year. And it's just a way to get the community to come together, help to educate them, have some information for them and. try to get some new people involved in stepping up. And I just, again, you just do what you can and you hope it makes a difference. I'm amazed at how much work you've done and the people that you're friends with. And I know a bunch of them are watching right now. So all I got to say is thank you so much for being the unsung heroes that have gone out there and just continue to chip away at this problem, refusing to back down, getting into situations where friends, family have rejected you because I know that that's happening. When you go against the grain of anything, people are going to sit there and point at you and go, oh, you're a bad person because you question someone that I have a bias towards. Stranger danger. You do not know these people. And so and you guys just keep hammering it out. And all I can say is, you know, thank you to you and everybody else out there that has put the time into this. And especially you who has gone on. You know, we've spent a lot of time talking on, you know, off camera. And I would I'm still I passed on some of your information to people that I know are direct the direct connection to the to the White House. And, you know, that sort of thing so that they know what's going on. You know, I was kind of helping with the Alberta independence movement. I was kind of getting stuck because I have direct connections to the White House and I made sure that they had your information. because it's like they need to know the process some of them did not know that this was going on some of the people that I talked to and they had no idea and I'm like it's a gallop up and it's Renita Gallop in Midland that's done the work on this but I can make the connections you know and and I appreciate the time that you've taken with us well let's get part of the end of the show right here would you like to say prayer would you like me to I'll let you do it again. That's fine. That's fine. Dear Heavenly Father, thank you so very much for Vicki and Karen and Renita and all the wonderful people out there that have been fighting without any recognition, without anybody thinking that anybody even heard their voice or that it mattered what they did. And they just kept going. And they didn't give up and they do it not for glory or recognition. They just want things right. They're the true unsung heroes that are fighting for our countries or our country, our counties and our communities. And I just thank you for them so much. And I ask that you would give them your favor, that your favor would rest upon them and all those whom they love mightily, that you would open the doors for them to see what they need to see and that it would continue to to bringing the truth out for everyone and give them more people to fight with them so that their numbers grow substantially. We love you so very much. And we want to let you know that we are willing to walk whatever path it is that you ask us to walk. Even if it's difficult, we know that you will equip us with anything you call us to do. And We love you so very much. In Jesus' name we pray. Amen. All right, boys and girls, that's that part of the show. We go to, ding, ding, ding, ding, go to brandenburgforgovernment.com because the best non-consider is ever not considered. In the history of the United States of America, I like to have a discussion with the rightful president of the United States, President Donald J. Trump. Cowboy boots, I wear them every day, so I'll wear them better. And then we just talk about real stuff like this. And fix this nation. Top to bottom, we have to have a change. And local action equals national impact. General Flynn has said this over and over again, the people's general, the one that stepped up, the one that stood in the path against great threat. He stood up and said, not today, not as long as I'm alive. And there's many people out there that have done the same thing. Don't lose heart. Just keep fighting. If they land a blow on you, come back and be more prepared next time. You have the ability to to do what it is that you're seeking as long as we don't give up. Their biggest weapon is demoralization and lack of good information to try to make us jump on the bad guy's side. I think there's some of that going on with the data centers right now. We are definitely in an arms race, and the arms race right now is for technology. Now, this is going to be an uncomfortable truth for everyone because they're doing things and subverting the process so that we turn... a turn actually into assets for the other side. All of this can be done without adverse reactions or adverse implications to our township, our water, to any of that stuff. But they're, they're cutting that little uncomfortable fact out. So we really need to get in and dig a little deeper other than listening to people's headlines. And I think this is important. So do you have any last words here that you want to make sure everybody knows Renita, and then we're going to go about our day. I was going to say one thing I read today and, One of my prayers in this journey has been to pray for a bigger David for the bigger Goliath. It's like, you feel like you can do so much, but there's one more level that you wish you had somebody able to move to. But then I thought about it the way it was worded in something I read that said, you may be that person for somebody else. So we all are on a progression, a progression of how we are involved and we each have different levels and different callings and giftings. So. Yeah. And it's like, it's like we're on the buddy system here. When somebody falls down or has something, get in there and help them pull them up. It's like never go swimming alone. Hey, you're swimming right now. So, you know, don't try to do it alone. Bring your buddies with you and you'll help each other. And it is a doable thing. It really is. So with that said, God bless you all. God bless all those whom you love. God bless America. Make it a great day. One decision at a time. And I'll be on tomorrow with John, Mike and Tom Howe talking. Tom Howe will be on at eleven o'clock talking about how they're subverting our families and our trust. through trust, trust law and such. It's going to be a good, good show because they literally stole his mother's house. The state did through conservatorship. So it's important to understand this because I think it's going to lead us back to some of the fallacies and things like, I don't know, ax my tax and that sort of thing. that never talk about the real issue that they're going under, and people don't take time to read the language. Read the language. Go pull documents. If you're going to be a researcher, a researcher does not include listening to influencers who a lot of them are paid opposition. So you've got to do your work. You've got to do what Renita did. And, yeah, do what Renita did. There's any statements. I'll see you tomorrow. Hang on. We're going to end right now. Have a great day.