Published Oct. 7, 2025, 9 a.m.
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Good morning and welcome to Brandenburg News Network. I am Donna Brandenburg and it's the seventh day of October, twenty twenty five. Welcome to our show today. So today we're going to be talking about a lot of things. But the first thing is going to be is are we worthy of the republic and of the Constitution? Do we have ethics? You know, it only works if everybody has the ethics to carry things forward and do the right thing. Not about the self gain. And, you know, it's not just the politicians. It's all of us. So first at nine o'clock, it's going to be John Tater. And then at ten o'clock, Mike, pro se Mike. And I'm not going to use his last name anymore because he doesn't have a last name anymore. So how are you doing, John? I'm good. I'm good. That, too, is a distraction. I don't have a last name and therefore I have to be called a certain thing. That's a distraction from reality of what we are trying to do. Well, you know, I just... I mean, everybody follows down a rabbit hole of one form or another and does their thing in the form of one form or another. But the real reality of where we have to go is to reinstate the republic. And I was listening to Pete Hex talk to the Navy yesterday, I think it was. And at the very end, he mentioned the republic. You know, a lot of people are arguing about what's going on, and they're not going to telegraph what they're doing. Okay, that's been said many, many times. That is like governance for dummies at this point when you've got a real clear and true enemy. And we're in unconventional warfare, shall we say. But we can watch the things going on around us and say, I see some really good things happening, even though a lot of bad things are being highlighted. Today, I found out that there was an entire city board in Florida that was removed. just about, I think there's one person left. And that, they were neck deep in corruption. And I know this because I was involved, and not in the corruption, but in the in the negative effects of the corruption. And so all I can say is that if you look around and see what's going on, I don't know if you've missed them during the shutdown. I haven't missed a thing. I hope they don't come back up again. Shut it down. What's that? The only objection I have to the shutdown is that the senators and congressmen should not be paid either. absolutely they are the ones that should give up their funding first because they're the ones that created the problem and they're not giving up they're still getting their paycheck they should not be getting paid anything Absolutely. You're absolutely correct. I mean, if we're shut down, then shut it down. I mean, that doesn't necessarily that doesn't mean you're shutting the people down, but it means we're shutting them down. And, you know, it's like they can sit there and argue all they want. Say we're in negotiations. We should be paid. It's like, no. You failed. They failed at keeping things running, having a proper balance in the financials and such, cutting out all this corruption, and they failed in going back to the Republic. On to story. Nancy Pelosi said once upon a time that we ought to be able to, from our homes, make phone calls in and vote on issues. Why have a government if you're going to be doing that? That's not a government. Those politicians, public functionaries, are not doing their job, which is to show up in Washington and do their job. And she thought it would be okay for them to make phone calls in and say, yeah, I vote for this bill or no, I don't vote for that bill. Unbelievable stuff. And, of course, now we have the court system that's set up in a Zoom. Judges don't even have to put their pants on anymore. Well, they're not really judges, so there's a problem with that. Well, they are. They're elected judges. That's both federal court and state court. Same thing. They put their robes on, and they go on Zoom, and they conduct court. That's not court. That's a joke. That's a fallacy. That's fake. It's phony. And it's not court. And these judges that do this shouldn't be paid. Why are they being paid? They get up in the morning, they have their toast and coffee, and they go on Zoom and conduct court. Done. No, forget it. That's not court. And they should be all, if they don't show up in the courthouse, they don't get paid. That should be just the prime. That should be a pretty easy, that should be a pretty easy test. I mean, I mean how, okay. That's like one of those ethics questions that should be boneheaded easy that no one should fail. Right. I don't get it. You know, I just don't get it. It's like the guy that works on the line in the factory. Well, I'm not going to go to court. I'm not going to go to the factory today. I'm going to go on Zoom. And I'll talk about how to produce the part. I won't produce it. I'll just talk about it. The same thing that the court does. They are going to talk about court on a Zoom. That's not court. So that was the problem. We've gone so far to a point of being beyond lazy. I don't even know what to call this. It's beyond lazy. These judges are beyond lazy. I'm going to be a smart Alec. I'm going to be a smart Alec. If it says in the, in the constitution, Michigan constitution, that they have to be licensed attorneys and there is no such thing as a licensed attorney, then are they judges? I don't think so. I think they're administrators. OK, well, if you want to go that way, you could go that way. There is no license to practice law in America, and they've been playing this peddling this nonsense, this this faking phony attorney bar business on us for the year for years. And we've been buying into it. That's part of do we do we actually earn or do we actually have the right to have a republic? Are we at a point in our lives as people that we should be able to have a republic? That means we should be self governed. We should be self trained, self taught. and and we don't have to have people watching over us and taking care of us not but but in in this case of the world that we live in today everything's a distraction And when we get distracted from the real issue of the republics, then we are going off in all kinds of different worlds, different tangents. And we've been doing this for years. Oh, it's about gay rights. Oh, it's about transvestites. Oh, it's about... and then today I read a new article on smart meters. I was in the battle of smart meters in and built a lock to prevent DTE from changing the meters to smart meters. We lost that battle. We lost it in court. But that was, again, a distraction. How much time did I spend doing that? and getting people to understand or to fight smart meters when in fact it's not about the smart meters that's part of it that's only a little facet of the whole picture the whole picture is do we deserve the republic are we worthy of it and that's the big question what are we doing to fight for the republic What distractions do we blow away and say, you know, I'm not paying attention to that. I'm not paying attention to that. I'm paying attention to the Republic only. And that brings us back to Norton versus Shelby County, which is the court case that sets up what the Republic is all about. And people don't know it. People don't understand it. People don't read it. People don't take the time to learn what it's all about. I get calls from people in my group saying, oh, my God, what's happening? Oh, the world's coming to an end. Oh, Trump is a Zionist or he's on the Jewish side or he's this or he's that. What's the reality of that? We don't care about all that. We care about is he fighting for the republic and is our focus on the republic? Yeah. And as we said before, the Republic is operated by the Constitution. Without the Constitution, we have no Republic. And without the Republic, we have no Constitution. When I look at things, if you don't know a standard, you can't make ethical conclusions or ethical decisions. End of story right there. And for me, that starts with what's outlined in the Bible. I mean, it's God's. God's instruction manual for life and it and I think that that being ignored is really what's gotten us to the do whatever you want and there's no consequences and you know live your best life type of thing but what that's led to is stepping on other people to get ahead and it it's it's not okay. You know? So there's all these ethical questions that people can ask themselves every day. Like, are you considering others more important than yourself? Or have you put survival? Because I think a lot of people are just operating on survival, right? Ahead of, ahead of, or getting ahead or being better than somebody up ahead of other people and their core personalities. And when that test fails, we got a problem right off the bat. Well, remember what the Founding Fathers said, we cannot exist as a republic unless we are a moral society and an educated society. Well, we failed on education, so that's gone. That's what I was going to say. What is education? I went to college. I got my sheepskin from the university, and therefore I'm educated. No, sorry. Sorry, that's commencement. What about attorneys and doctors that figure, you know, I got my seven years of college behind me, and therefore I am educated? a doctor and I can make and prescribe drugs and prescribe what you have to do in order to keep yourself healthy. But they have no idea what healthy means and how to get to that point. Same with attorneys. They have no idea what the law is, what the true law is. They only have ideas as to how to manipulate it and how to make money off of people that are in trouble and need some legal help. They should be helping people. Instead, they're sucking as much money out of them as they can. Oh, I get one-third of your take when we sue these people. Why? Not because I worked that and earned it. It's because that's what we generally charge when we sue and we win is one-third of the taking. This is all beyond... beyond nonsense. But we buy into it. We buy, we do because we go out and we, you know, I'll never hire an attorney again, as long as I live, because they are crooks. And if you decide to go and hire an attorney, well, buyer beware, so to speak. I had an attorney tell me last week that I was talking to, and we were talking about a specific issue, and they're like, I don't know how to do this. We need to talk to you to see if you can help us figure this out. And I'm like, this just kind of blew my mind. The conversation... What's that? You to help them figure it out? Yes. That's what I was saying, too. I was like... I'm sitting there going, that is funny, right? That's not minorly funny. That is majorly funny. I was just kind of like, wow, you know. Well, if you're not self-directed, if you're not self-governed, you don't deserve the Republic. You should pack up your bags and you should go to England or to France or to Russia or to any of the other countries where the government runs your life. That's what you need because that's what you want here. But that's not what America is all about. America is about self-governing, about self... educating, taking care of yourself, and not relying upon the government. That's not why we're here. That's not what America is all about. When you start relying on government and their handouts, and Social Security is one of those government handouts, unfortunately, but Social Security, in effect, for many, since you had to pay it, is a contract. That's a little different, I take it, but on a minor scale. But any other handouts, welfare, Section eight, you name it, there's tons of them out there. Any other handouts by government means that you want government to run your life, control your life, take care of you. And America was never meant to be a hospital from birth to death, where you're taken care of by the government from the time you were born to the time you die. That's why we have the right to bear arms, because we protect ourselves. That's why we have the right to freedom of speech, because we can talk about what it is that we have to do in order to improve our own personal lives, and that we have life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness, which is in the Declaration of Independence. All of these terms that that we hear somehow should resonate with the people that this is what this country is all about. It's not about government subsidies and government help. It's about the people running their own lives. And governments stay the hell out of my life. Well, and I think I think because we've been so programmed that people don't even know what that looks like. But I mean, you can ask a few simple questions. Number one, that we've got a monopoly. There's a monopoly on our energy, on our energy, on water. In so many places, there's absolutely a monopoly on things. The cities don't run the way that works within a Republic. It just, they just don't because everything, all your services, everything is a monopoly and you're just plugged in to this machine to crank out products for them. And they're hoping that you're happy going to get a coffee in a coffee shop, eating your fat free cookie and, and, you know, playing on your phone. Right. They're entertaining people so they're not stopping to look at what they're living at. And is it a good life or are you just on a hamster wheel for them? I allege that they are. OK, you can choose to be on their hamster wheel. But if you didn't have to pay taxes, which we're at about an eighty five percent right now, and there was no corporate ownership of the land. There'd be lots of land. They say there's a housing crisis. There's no housing crisis. They've just started at these city centers and they've moved out their infestation to eat up the farmland, eat up the surrounding areas and such. and they leave the core of the city in ruins. And I mean, like some of them have come back because people have reclaimed some of the old buildings and such, but the whole thing is a flawed tax structure. So like if we had some of these fundamental things that the government has put in place, like, fifty two percent of all lands west of the Mississippi owned by the federal government, that should never happen. Never happen. They're they're kicking us off of the state lands and denying people access, that should never happen. And so much corruption and money going to their public-private partnerships and such to really, we're already turned into China. Which is fascism. Public-private partnerships are fascists. Right. Although I don't approve of the Antifa nonsense, the anti-fascism. You know what I mean? It's like I wish they wouldn't have gone into violence, and I guess that that's the way I feel about every single issue out there or group. Now, the Republicans right now, and the Democrats, both of them are in error. And you listen to people on the conservative side talking about, you know, grab your torches and pitchforks. These people are idiots, total idiots. I want to get your take on something here because I was railing against this yesterday and see what you think because this to me looks like absolute garbage and it's the White House website. I am more than annoyed with this. I am ashamed of what they've done. And I mean totally, completely, and utterly ashamed of what they've done with the White House website. Bring it up here. I want you to weigh in on this because I don't know if you saw this or not. I actually had a – there you go. So there's the White House with a shutdown counter. Democrats have shut down the government. I would like to see this be more statesman-like rather than Democrats shut down the government. And then you go down here and you can see the left is willing to shut down the government. Why isn't the right done anything about it? They have the ability to do something and they haven't. Democrats willing to shut down the government. Democrats, Democrats, Democrats, Democrats, Democrats. I... am kind of ashamed of this and yesterday i said i said i demand that whoever put this up is is immediately immediately has some consequences for this whether they lose their jobs or whatever i don't think it's president trump there's no way that's president trump that did that and but it's like it's like this is this is above this is wrong. You know, it's talk about dividing the nation. I mean, let's go after the criminality and stop the labeling and either demonizing or virtue signaling one over the other. They're all corrupt. Well, that part, I agree with you. I do also understand that we are at a, in a information war and that that information war is, is, uh, being fought on both sides, the lefts than the rights, if you want to call them that, or the Republic versus the democracy part, if you want to call them that, and they're fighting against each other on the media. And I'd rather see it done on the media than with guns. So if this is the... the little bit I have to put up with, first of all, I never went to the website, so it doesn't mean anything to me. But people that go to the website that have a heartache over it, got to understand that we're in an information war. And that information war is going, flying out in all directions, good, bad, or indifferent. You have to, as a patriot of the Republic be able to discern the good and the evil. And that's not easy necessarily, but you have to be able to look at it and say, okay, this is nonsense. I'm moving on. And if you can't do that, then you have a problem because then you've been trained or you've been programmed or you've been, uh, um, coerced into believing certain things and you turn a blind eye to everything else. I don't think we really know what's going on, but I do see, you know, we can see the wind blowing in which direction it's going. And I think that they're tearing things down. I mean, we've got Venezuela, you know, we've got troops down there off the shore of Venezuela. So I got a feeling that they're actually going in and they're removing some bad things. And so we just have to be a little bit patient with it. But I also think it's a time to learn to question things, knowing how it's really supposed to work so that we can self-govern. We can't do it. We can't self-govern unless we start questioning everything. Figuring out. the way that it's supposed to work, even if it isn't working that way right now. That's right. That brings us back to the Constitution. That brings us back to the roadmap that sets up the republic, and that's the Constitution. Do we have a right to freedom of speech? Yes, we do. Do we have a right to call for somebody's assassination or death? No, we do not. The CIA does it all the time. Well, I understand. I understand what's going on out there. But we have the right to freedom of speech. Do we have the right to freedom of religion? and practice any type of religion we want in the United States? Yes, we do. Do we have the right to try to push Sharia law because you're an Arab or Middle East and you like Sharia law? Do you have the right to push that in America? No. Do you have the right as a congressman to stand for Somalia? No, you do not. You swore an oath to the Constitution. Or Israel or Palestine. or Palestine or any of those countries. You have no right as a congressperson, as a public functionary, to support any other country but America. And we do have people in Congress that do that. you can mention a whole there's a whole litany of them out there that fly flags of different countries they they should be kicked out immediately they have violated their oath of office they have violated the constitution and we have to get back to the road map to the constitution in order to fix this problem uh and if we don't uh we're going to continue to be in this morass of bs the rest of our lives, and I don't want to be there. I'm fighting for the Republic. I'm fighting for the Constitution. I try to teach people or help people understand the Constitution and know the difference between a fascist and a communist. They're basically the same. Because they both want the same thing at the end. They want to control the public. So if you're a fascist, Antifa's anti-fascist, Antifa's fascist. That's BS. They call themselves anti-fascist, but they're as fascist as Adolf Hitler's youth programs were. They're the same thing. Explain that. They believe that government should be controlled, should control the public. That's why they're out there fighting for the Democrats and democracy. They want government control. Democracy is just a little longer way to get around to that control because they want the people to vote, all the people to vote, and then it's fifty one percent versus forty nine percent. Fifty one percent. Nobody has any rights. If you're on the wrong side of the voting process, if you're in the forty-nine percent, you lose. That's democracy. And so they want democracy. They want to protect the democracy. That is just another form of fascism or communism or whatever, any of the isms that control the public. That's what they want. They want control of the public. And of course, you know, they're carrying the flag. The Antifa flag is similar to the Nazi flag. That says it all. If you believe in that kind of philosophy, that you believe you want to protect the democracy, that you want to vote for, you want group rights instead of individual rights, you are in violation of the Constitution and the Republic. That's not what the Republic is all about. The Republic is about individual rights. That's a good place to go, honestly, because when people hide behind these monikers or labels, they think that they're justified to violate people's rights, like shutting down a highway. Is that ethical? No, it's not, because it's an attack on innocent people. That's not ethical. And so if we go back to the questions of ethical questions, no matter what we do, not trying to justify it because we're part of a cult or club, that's what we've got going on, say, with with the political parties right now. They run like cults. And so do most of the NGOs and five or one C threes. You're only worthy if you get in there and individuals have no place to think or to innovate or anything like it. It's all group think. Groupthink is exactly that. Groupthink is one of the isms, communism or fascism. The only difference between fascists and communists is the direction on how you get to be in control of the public. That's all. Fascism wants... public-private partnerships. They want the business and the government to work together to make or to control the public. In a communist situation, a true communism, they want no government, but they want a community. But then who's going to operate that community or how's that community going to run? Everybody's going to be in their own honor, and we're nowhere near being honorable people, that we are going to help others. And what did God want us down on this face of the earth for? To help others, to serve others. But that's not what the communist process is. The communist process is we're all going to get together, we're going to all work to the best of our abilities, and we're all going to take according to our needs. Who decides what needs you have? Or who decides what the best of your ability is? That is a nebulous question that nobody can answer, not even you. So this is the problem. These isms are not functional. And the Republic is the best form of government out there, but we have to learn how to live and be part of that Republic. And again, self-government, not speed up and down the street with no muffler on your motorcycle or car in the middle of the night to wake up the public. That's not part of the republic. Wearing a mask in public to show that I don't understand what you're trying to show. And if you haven't figured out that there is no virus out there that you're going to get by inhaling it, then you haven't done your homework, then you're ignorant. Then you're ignorant of what's going on. You have to be educated and you have to understand how the process works, who you are, what your body is capable of doing. God put you on this earth and not throw a thousand viruses at you and say you got to go and get a vaccine from a pharmaceutical company in order to survive. This is all... This is all kabuki, false, fake ways of living. And people need to get out of that fake way. And we're still a long way from that point where people are really understanding what the world is all about and how to live their life as a self-governing person. if you don't have a clock to get up in the morning because your work says you have to, and if you don't have work, then you don't get up in the morning, this whole kind of thing, you got to understand how to be able to live in a republic. And we have been so far trained in the other direction, it's a long process to get us back to the republic at this point. True, true story. Yeah, until I think I think you in you look at the smallest, the smallest form of government, which is a family. And our families are broken. We have forgotten how to live as a group of people, as a tribe working together and working for each other's best good. If we can't do it in our own homes, how in the world are we ever going to be able to do it in a larger group of any size, no matter what it is? There's a litmus test right there. Do you live together with your family? Do you... keep track of how many times that you help someone or you just do it to be to make the world a better place are you keeping score when there's there's an ethics question right there are you keeping score for what you do are you transactional or you do you do things just because it's the right thing to do if you can't answer that question correctly, everything else falls apart. Because someone who's here to serve God does it without regard to what they're going to get or what kudos they're going to get, if they're going to have any recognition or something like that. That's why the focus needs to be really doing it without being observed or recognized. And God says that. He In the world there, you've already got your treasure. Right. But and the treasures that we should desire, they're not like the streets of gold or any of that stuff. The treasures that are really matter are the ones that are intangible. Discernment, wisdom, love, long suffering, all of the gifts of the spirit that come with. that come with walking closer with God. Those are things, because I think so many people are so far away from God, they don't even see that as a value because they worship the world. They worship the money. They worship the power. They worship the recognition or that people like them and that sort of thing, which absolutely sells yourself out to people a system that doesn't care. The world doesn't care. And it's a problem, big problem. Exactly. I agree with you there. Our problem that we have is, as you're saying, goes back to the family. But you've got to understand that the people that are behind this, the evil, they don't want families to work together. They want families to be separated. They want the wife out and the mother out into the workforce working and letting the children grow up by the use of a telephone or a television. They don't want to have dinner table discussions with father and mother at the table talking with their children. They don't want that. They want to break up the family because without the family, then the individual son grows or daughter grows up, and they don't understand what it's all about. They don't understand what the family is all about and how that is necessary in order to have a cohesive life. I'm in the group on Wednesday nights, and there are so many families that are dysfunctional out there. It's unbelievable. brothers are going after brothers or sisters after brothers or brothers after sisters or somebody steals a house from somebody else because there's a hundred thousand dollars involved and they think they're going to be rich well a hundred thousand dollars unless you're talking about millions of dollars in in a hundred thousand two hundred three hundred four hundred thousand is that worth destroying your family over fighting for that little bit of I don't know, what do you want to call it? Entitlement to something that you never earned. That's right. Just because you want something free, a freebie here, and therefore you destroy your entire family, you destroy the love and the affection of your brothers and sisters, mothers and fathers, whatever, over this. We hear so many bad stories that are going on like that. I had a party last week, and my brother was here, and my mother's sister-in-law was here, and my sister was here, and the other, unfortunately, my fourth sibling's sister couldn't come because she had some other commitment. But we were all together. We were singing. We had our instruments out. We were having one heck of a time. It was a great event. Do you remember when we were kids? So like I have thirty three first cousins by blood. All right. It's a big family. It's a huge family. And every one of them are crazy. OK, so like like when we grew up, our cousins were kind of more like brothers and sisters than than the traditional cousins, because our family was always together. And I remember sitting around the table at my Aunt Jane's house, which was just a riot. They owned a farm. So all of us little savages were out there playing and we were picking beans. Aunt Jane was kind of like, uh, uh, the matriarch of the family and basically said, you kids go out there and pick beans. And we were like, yes, yes. Aunt Jane, you know, you did what you were told to do. And we go out there and pick beans and, and out of the garden and they come back and snip them. And, and, uh, worked with, they grew cantaloupe too. So we all kind of worked together and she had us busy, but we played a lot. I mean, we played and we ran around, but the biggest thing was to sit at the table and listen to all my uncles and aunts talk. And they talked about everything. They didn't always agree with what was being said at the table. A couple of my aunts were diehard Democrats. And then you'd have a couple of my uncles and such. They were diehard Republicans. And everybody talked. And it would get kind of heated sometimes. It really would. But it was never on... a malicious, it was never malicious. It was sticking to the issues, but it wasn't going after persons to destroy them. That's what we have now. It was discussing issues and, you know, why it was good or bad. And at the end of the day, you know, everybody at the end of the day is, I don't know, singing and having a great time because we all sing and we all sang in our gatherings too, like you did at yours. And that was fun. It was fun to go to your house and meet your family and such and be able to spend a little bit of time there. And so, yeah, that was a five-hour trip for me just to be there as soon as I was there. I was kind of impressed that you showed up. No, I really – I wouldn't have missed it. It was fantastic. But, you know, and how is that that we've lost so much of our ability even to communicate to the point that you – What I'm seeing, especially now, is that younger people and it's not all younger people. I'm seeing a change where people are figuring it out. The younger people are getting this this narrative figured out and they're starting to talk about it, which is fantastic. But to have enough knowledge to talk about things of substance. is an art form or to be able to hold a conversation with anyone at any point in time in anywhere. It's kind of an art form. And the beginning step in that is caring about the people you're talking to, not to be right, but to care, but to care about them as a person. If you don't have that, you'll never hold a conversation with anyone because then you're just pushing an agenda and propaganda of your own, you know? So so talking about things of interest, I used to follow sites that were just, you know, what's what's in the news right now that people are interested in that were nonpolitical or items of interest that everybody can kind of agree with. They can kind of test the waters a little bit and and. you know, just, just some good natured kidding around, you know, not teasing because just teasing is also an art form. You have to like the person to tease them. Otherwise you're just mean, you know? And so, so, but it's, it's interesting. Everybody's looking for people to solve their problems though, instead of solving themselves and, and the self-governing part of it, that, that, that's a, so if you were going to tell people as a teacher how to approach self-governing and self-government on a personal basis, how would you tell them? What would you say is their first order of business? That's a toughie. Let's make a list of what to do. Well, I suspect that first things we have to do is understand what it is that we want in life. You get up in the morning, what do you do? You get up in the morning, you go have breakfast. That's kind of automatic, isn't it? You don't even think about it. There's a lot of things that you do that we don't give any credence to as to why we're doing it. So if you are, and I see what Curtis is talking about, But you can't expect the government to disappear unless you are self-governing yourself, unless you understand that I'm not gonna do something that upsets my neighbor. I'm not going to steal his lawnmower. I'm not going to encroach upon his property. Certainly, if he has a property that I need to use for one reason or another, I'd go ask him. and see if we can work out a deal or something. But I hear of people that are neighbors, and I had a neighbor once that did that same thing to me, encroach, call the city on me because I had a panel van. and I had a ladder on the panel van and he said it was a construction vehicle and you can't keep that in this neighborhood because this is a residential neighborhood. And I said, what? It's just a panel van. It doesn't have any markings on it. It doesn't say construction company or anything like that. It's just the panel van with a ladder. So then I call up the city and I say, well, you know, what will it take? to make this van that I have in my driveway, which I have the right because I have a plate on it and all that, to keep this van in my property. And the city inspector says, take the ladder off. Okay, so I took the ladder off my van and it was no longer a commercial vehicle. It's so stupid. I mean, the whole thing is so stupid. You know, when you look at it, we live in these little plastic communities. We grow, we grow nothing. We produce nothing at our homes, but it sure looks good on the outside as a plastic community. Nobody talks to each other unless you got somebody crazy in your neighborhood who actually stops and talks to everybody, you know, and it's, it's, uh, It's a go to work, come home, leave with a mask of some sort of knowledge or perfection. Nobody really knows anybody unless you really sit down and make an effort. But it looks good from the outside. But yeah, that's right. That's it goes back to the homeowners association. Oh, it's a certain color on your door because it's. not in conforming with the rest of the community. You can't have a picket fence in your front yard because it doesn't conform. This whole kind of nonsense. And as they press these laws and these rules and regulations on the people, the people most of the time fight back if they're of any kind of care. You know, I own this property. Get off my property, basically. You have no right to be here. If you want to come and socialize with me, my door's open. But you're not going to tell me how that my picket fence is too tall, too white, too black, too brown, or is not tall enough. That's not your job. that's not the city's job that's my personal like and my desire in my neighborhood but you know i don't live in a community that has a homeowners association so i feel very fortunate Let's talk about what we just brought up with the turning your neighbors in and such. This is nonsense. The amount of taxes that we pay to the government to take care of our towns, our counties, our states, whatever it is. I mean, I disagree with the entire structure right now. Wouldn't it be better if people spent their time instead of looking for somebody else to solve their problems and going to punitive damage because someone else didn't perform what they were supposed to? If the government said, hey, you know what? Aunt Sally over here who's having a problem keeping her house up. why don't we have a council or a group of people that would come in and say, you know what, we're going to go around. Do you need anything caulked or painted? Do you see what I'm saying? If there was a group that got together to handle things and people volunteered, actually volunteered their time in a meaningful way to do meaningful work to make the world a better place, instead of, oh, I want to start this organization or that organization or blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, because I want to be some kingpin to run an organization and get recognition for all my great deeds. How about we just step back and say, well, this person's struggling. I'm going to just kind of do that quietly off to the side. And if the government, instead of fining people and being involved in revenue raising, came back with an actual plan to help people wouldn't that be kind of amazing well the whole argument that i have when people have issues with neighbors or whatever i say you know if you have a an issue with your neighbor, you get yourself, if you like cooking or baking or whatever, bake yourself some cookies and take it next door and see if you can have a sit down conversation with that person. The last thing you want to do is bring in government. The last thing you want to do is bring in the ordinance officer. To your point, you're talking about relationship building. But if you have a relationship with somebody before there's a conflict that they care about you and you care about them, you end up having a much easier time talking to them. If you don't care about people and you walk in cold, they're just going to see you as somebody who's there just to complain and then basically bitch about the situation. And it's going to raise their, if people know you don't care about them, They're not going to care about you. Well, that part is true. But the point of the matter is I don't know all my neighbors. You know, over the fence, I have an apartment complex. I don't know any of those people at that apartment. They're transient, most of them. They're not here long enough to know them. The people that stole my Trump signs off the front lawn, I don't know who they were, where they came from. This is a fairly big, you know, my property is fairly large and it's somewhat enclosed from the rest of the world, which is what I like. But I don't have the connection with my next door neighbor because I don't even know who that next door neighbor is. There are fences that block my apartment complex, the apartment complex from my place, which is fine. However, I found that my chickens flew over the fence somehow. I don't know. And I was concerned that they wouldn't find their way back. But they found they were back. They found their way back to this property and back to the coop. You know, you can clip their wings. No, no, no. I let them go do whatever they want to do. Yeah, you clip that second on a chicken's wings. They've got the feathers. Let's see if I can do it. So let's just say the feathers, if you clip the second feather in on their wing, they can kind of flutter around, but they're not going to get any air time to go over a fence. Wow. As long as they find their way back, I don't care. Okay. We're concerned about your chickens, John. Nobody's complaining about my chickens in their backyard, so I'm not concerned. Somebody starts complaining about it, I might have a different attitude. But right now, I let them wander around. I say my property's big enough that they shouldn't want to go over the fence. Yeah, what's wrong with those chickens? Why would they want to cross the road? You've got a great piece of land. I don't know. but the point that i'm making here is that when i lived in a neighborhood that i couldn't before i moved here i was living closer to neighbors and i did have neighbors that i talked with and worked with and did things with and that was nice we didn't party together but we knew each other we talked to each other we said hi and that kind of stuff actually he was a mechanic so he did a lot of work on my car which he liked to do and he made some money off of me which he liked so that was kind of a cool thing but there are opportunities to get to know the neighbors and you should you should know who you're living next to Remember, if we ever go to a serious crisis where we have some sort of a shutdown or meltdown in the economy, you're going to have to rely on those neighbors. General Flynn has been talking a lot lately about the compromise in our communication systems. I think that that's something to pay attention to, that we may lose, we may... at some point in time, and many people that I'm talking to are saying kind of the same thing, it's not a matter of if, it's a matter of when. And that goes to the financial changes, it goes to communications, and it goes to, say, possibly even the energy grid going down. I would not be surprised if we saw some major attack on our infrastructure that would really, really be a large problem. So like I've talked to many people, it's like, are you willing to watch the people you love, you know, something happened to them or watch them die because of your lack of preparation. And there, that goes back to thinking about the people about around you. Cause I've had people say, Oh, I've got enough to last me a couple of weeks. And I'm like, OK, but what about your family who may not be aware of this and they come looking for? Are you willing to let them die? Share your stuff with them. Yeah. Are you willing to share your stuff with them? Are you preparing enough so you have enough to share with them in the case of catastrophic failure? You know, look at look at the Mormons and Sunday Adventists. and different subgroups like that that have ideology of preparation. I used to go to the classes that the Mormons and the Seventh-day Adventists put out because I like their classes on healthy eating as well as their preparation methods and such. Because I just like to know those sort of things. That's the kind of person I am. I foraged for food for a while and I think that's really interesting. I wanted to know where to find the medicines And, and the food with what's growing around is how, how the old ways, how people live through the winter, just cause I'm curious about that sort of thing. Right. And, uh, What is prevalent right now is, oh, I've just got enough in my house, and I'm doing fridgescaping and all this kind of nonsense out there. Did you know that that's a thing, fridgescaping? I don't even know what that is. All right. I'm going to tell you what fridgescaping is, and I think it's one of the dumbest things that I've heard in a long time, okay? My refrigerator is packed with food, okay? If I don't have enough to feed whoever stops in, I am a failure as the – is laid down by my uncles and aunts in the generations before me. You know, you feed people if they come over, you be a gracious hostess, or you were a failure to the entire family, okay? That's just how it was for us. So Fridgescaping is where you do things like you arrange things in your refrigerator like shelves, like a display shelf. So they might put little figurines in there. They might put little figurines or they might put things like framed artwork in the refrigerator. Instead of food. And I'm like, this is the dumbest thing I've ever heard in my life. And it's just, it's gotta be one of those, I don't know, CIA ops to keep people from optimal efficiency. But at any rate, they're doing this. Look it up. It's a thing for escaping. Never heard of it. Yeah, I was the same. I don't want to hear about it anymore. I'm like, so society has got to be dumb enough to put statues and pictures in their fridge to make it a display shelf instead of putting groceries in there that need to be stored. Can you imagine the amount of energy being wasted on that kind of nonsense? That is nonsense. All right. So this is where we've come. And I really think that we should be thinking about this sort of thing on the fact that are we preparing in the case of a shutdown? Pretty sure you're not going to be able to eat a picture frame. So what are we doing to prepare not just for ourselves, but those people around us that we care about? Because we don't know. There's no guarantees for tomorrow. And if General Flynn is talking about it, you better pay attention. So there you go. I guess my Boy Scout, my Eagle Scout, when I became an Eagle Scout, was a part of that whole be prepared. What are the things you remember the most? About scouting? Yeah, about being an Eagle Scout. My dad was an Eagle Scout. All kinds of things. We did forage for different kinds of foods and stuff. That was good. Learned how to survive, how to live in a tent, how to live in the cold environment. A bunch of different things like that. There was a lot of stuff I learned. Being prepared, how to build a fire with, you know, stick out in the woods, how to light the fire without a match. And back when I was going through scouts, you only had one match to light your fire. So you had to build the fire itself properly in order to so you could light it with one match. Otherwise, you light it and the match goes out and you're done. So, yeah, a bunch of different things that I learned in scouting. Plus, that was part of my shooting experience too. I shot rifles and stuff in the Boy Scouts, as well as in the high school, as well as in the military. So lots of different things. I mean, I had two palms. So I had, I think, I had twenty-one merit badges. I had thirty-one or thirty-two merit badges or something like that. I don't remember now exactly. But, yeah, I learned a lot, quite a lot, in a lot of different fields. Scouting was an excellent thing for me. In fact, my son also went to scouts, and I became assistant scoutmaster at the time. And he got his eagle through the process of becoming a Boy Scout. So it kind of followed in my footsteps a little bit. And obviously he made Lieutenant Colonel in the Space Force. So I'm real proud of him. That's really cool. He was here playing guitar. You met him, I think. Yeah, I met him. Yeah, that was really nice to meet him at your place. I'd love to talk with him again and have some time to sit down. You know, it's like you go to events like the event you had. And I didn't want to get into politics or anything else like that. So we just kind of talking about politics. I know, I know. But I was like, I'm just trying to, you know, trying to make a polite conversation. And here, I'm going to bring Mike in because Mike was there. Hey, Mike, how you doing? Morning, how you doing? Good. We were both talking about the fact that when you're into as many subjects and the same subjects that we're all into here, it's like you want to go to these things and try to be polite, but just sit there and it's like, hey, how you doing? I ask a lot of questions and that sort of thing. That's always... That's always helpful, but. Well, you gave me something new to talk about. What's that? You gave me something new to talk about at some of these events. What's that? Fridge scape. Yeah, a fridge scape. And I can give you all sorts of worthless crap to talk about. Oh, my God. Maybe that's Mother Nature's way of weeding out the stupid ones, you know? Oh, my gosh. I would hope so. Let me see if I can find something on fridge scape because now you guys are going to laugh. This is so dumb. It's like I just can't believe it. I've never heard of it either. I don't have any room for anything in my refrigerator. It's packed with... All right, here we go. This is the thing, okay? I swear to you, I swear to you, this is a real thing. I couldn't believe it. I'm like, are you totally kidding me, okay? This is fridge scaping. You know, we got flowers in there, which isn't so bad, but I mean, here, let's look at this. Okay, this is nuts. Okay, this is just kind of nuts. Jeez. Got to have a pitcher in there. You got to have, you know, two kinds of pitchers in there and a basket and such. I don't know. I'm just like, I'm like, it's kind of cute, but I don't know. I just can't see putting the time into that just personally. But, you know. A lipstick on a pig don't make it anything other than a pig. You know, if those flowers were edible, that would make sense. That would make sense, yeah. Like for me, I've got my refrigerator crammed so full of stuff it's not even funny. That's part of getting back to what it is that we are supposedly working toward is becoming a republic again and getting rid of the crap. And that's a diversion. That's another diversion just like all the other diversions. There's a swan here and two picture frames back here and one here sitting in the back and two busts here with a picture. Guys, I can't relate to this, okay? I just can't relate to this plastic society that we have. Man, I'm telling you. I don't know. I can't relate to this. I'm too old, guys. I'm just too old. You know what that tells me is that someone has a lot of extra time on their hands that should be better spent learning the Constitution and their rights and how to help others in that field. Obviously, they waste their time on stupid shit and then piss, moan, and complain about when something happens and expect someone else to fix it for them. But the refrigerator looks good. Yeah. You know, I'm like, I can't, I can't even go there, Mike. It's like, this is the dumbest thing that I think I've ever seen in my life is fridge scaping. Put that on their headstone. Yeah. Champion fridge scaper. Yeah. I don't know. So, hey, let's see if I can put your banner up here, John. This is kind of a nice conversation today. We were talking about morals and ethics and whether our country is, in fact, worthy of the republic. and the constitution. It only works with a moral, with a moral population. And we don't have that right now. You remember in the Bible, when God said he wouldn't destroy a city, if he found like ten honest, honest guys, he gets down to one honest guy. And it was like, it was a total failure. He couldn't find one ethical, honest person, you know, or found one, I guess. And it was, it's like, um, Unless we are introspective on ourselves, we aren't worthy of the Republic. The people that are in office right now aren't worthy. People are worshiping this world instead of doing the right thing, learning things and standing up for other people. Unless we can say that that's our priority, we failed the ethics test. I agree. So John, you want to talk about your meeting tomorrow night? Yeah, we're going to I'm not quite sure what case we're going to be looking at. I haven't really got to that point, but we will be on on Wednesday night at between seven and nine and people can join in. And if they have any issues or problems, we do handle problems for people that have certain issues and how to deal with mostly it's mostly government. That's the problem. But some people have family problems and how to deal with family problems and how to deal with probate because some people have elderly people in their household and it ends up in probate. Probate steals all the money and the attorneys steal all the money and the family ends up with nothing. So we have all of these issues bombarding our group with. But it gets down to the Republic and it gets down to how you're handling this process. Not when it's a crisis, but before it's a crisis. What are you doing to help fix the problem or take care of the problem early on in life? Not wait until it becomes a court problem where the judges and the attorneys divide up the spoils. That's what we're at. Awesome. Well, thanks for being on today, John. You can stay on as long as you want. Unfortunately, I've got to run. I know. Ten o'clock is almost a hard stop for you, so that's okay. Well, I'm going to say goodbye to you today, John, and we'll see you next Tuesday. Thank you so much for being on. Let's talk more about this ethical stuff, Colonel, because we need to teach people how to be ethical and disciplined a little bit in their own lives instead of looking at other people to fix their lives. They need to take responsibility for it. So I'm tasking you with that. Okay, I'll look at it. Be that colonel that we know you are. Let's whip everybody into shape here, okay? All right. Awesome. See you next week. Thank you. Hey, Mike, how you doing? I'm just going to go to this and skip the intro here. No intro? Okay. What's happening in Mike world? Well, we have a little development going on here. Dave Burris says, And the attorney, David Burris, along with Seward Henderson, have defaulted on their final default notice, along with Genoa Township, Livingston County Board of Commissioners, and Judge Susan Geddes. So what happens next is I will be putting together the briefs and filing court briefs against them, starting with Dave Burris and his law firm. So they're both going to be filing a lawsuit against them for defamation, slander, among other things, and showing that what they've done is an act of domestic terrorism by and through the bar and in connection with the FBI. So I've got a few other little surprises that are going to be coming down the pipe here. But yeah, I'm going to say probably by the end of the month, I'm going to be filing. So I'll keep everybody posted on that. So that's where we're at with that kind of stuff. As far as some of the other stuff, it's been pretty quiet. There's been nothing really going on. It appears that either they've They're just letting the manors collect dust on the shelf or they're waiting for me to do something. So I'm going to take the time to work on the other stuff and then I'll come back to them and move forward on them as well. So, but yeah, this is, you know, people got to understand. The courts, well, let's back up here a little bit. Governments are run by banks. Okay. And who's the enforcer? That would be the bar associations by and through the court system. They manipulate everybody. They control and force you under threat, duress, and coercion into contract. They force you into being the debtor in all cases when in reality you're the creditor. It's all total manipulation by the bar associations. Now, if we eliminate the bar, The banks don't have their enforcers anymore. We eliminate their ability to enforce their crap. So this all is about showing and exposing the Bar Association for who and what they really are, a domestic terrorist organization. They swear no oath to the Constitution. Their oath is to the British Crown. That's why they're supposed to have a foreign agent registration statement on file. They don't. They completely... disregarded all their own rules and regulations. And that's kind of where I'm going to go into some of this stuff today. I thought, you know, I got to thinking about what do I want to talk about today? You know what? I don't know if you knew this or not, but I am actually a certified level three hockey coach with USA Hockey. No, I didn't know that. Yeah. Hockey is the only sport that I love. I freaking love hockey. I played for forty years. Oh, for real. I didn't know that. Yeah. Where did you play? Oh, I played all over. You know, I played open travel. Basically, as a youth, I played open travel. So we were always on the road traveling to different places, Chicago, Toronto, wherever. We played against Sweden. And so, yeah, I was all over the place. I could see you being a hockey player. Yeah. You've got a hockey attitude. As a youth, what would the, you know, back then... When we went out of town, we would border at a player's house from the other team. So I remember this one time we're in Toronto and the kids, the family's house that I'm being bordered at. He's like, hey, we got, you know, I got tickets for the Maple Leaf Gardens. You know, we want to go. Oh, yeah, I want to go. So we would walk a couple blocks to a bus stop, get on this bus, it would take us down, and then we'd have to change buses. That would take us to the subway, and then we'd ride the subway into downtown Toronto. It was a night game. Get in there, watch the game, get autographs afterwards, and then do that track back. No parents, and we were only twelve years of age. When my parents found out that that's what I had done, they were like, wait, what? They had no idea. So, but yeah, at twelve years of age, you know, that's what I that's what we used to do. We didn't worry about, you know, stuff like we do now. We were all over the place. Nobody ever knew where I was when I was a kid. You know, I was out playing. I don't know, playing with riding bikes and playing in the dirt. And and there was a little lake next to where we lived. And I just had to go down the street a little while and throw a fishing pole. you know, throw a line in the water with a fishing pole and I'd sit there all day or or making things and such. But I was my mom and dad never knew where I was during the day and nobody worried about anything. Right. Yeah. Yeah. We didn't we didn't worry about things the same way. But the other thing, too, we had street smarts. OK, you knew what to look for and what to watch. Kids nowadays, they have zero street smarts. Well, mom and dad would tell you don't do this and you didn't do it because you knew that they were looking out for you and there would be consequences anyway. But the point being is that now so many kids have contempt for their parents. Parents tell them what to do and they're just they have contempt. instead of that loving relationship. And whose fault is it? Probably a combination of all the above. If you let somebody else raise your kids, your kids are going to hate you. They're going to teach them to have contempt for you. Kids really want to be with their parents. And if you fail at that, the consequence of that almost always is going to be contempt for the parent. You want a relationship, you have to put time into it. Yeah. And, you know, up until about the time of the Oakland County child killings, I was in junior high at the time. Well, tell me about that. I don't know what that was all about. There was a series of murders that took place, and I don't believe they ever caught the guy. Was it tied to Fox Island? I don't know about that. I think I know what you're talking about, and it was tied to Fox Island. These were irrational killings in Oakland County, and it was all kids. They were abducted. I think they were abused. I don't remember everything anymore. It's been so long. But I do remember that I was in junior high, and my route to junior high took me down these certain roads. And unbeknownst to me, one of the kids that were murdered was in a ditch that was in my route to school. Oh, my goodness. So, yeah, that was, you know, the parents were all freaking out and everything else. And I kind of remember some of the stuff that was going on back then as far as, you know, the events and everything. And, you know, they were talking about, you know, watch out for, you know, this kind of car and this kind of stuff. So everybody was on high alert back then watching and stuff, what was going on. You became very aware of your surroundings. I think that's tied into Fox Island because I had looked into that a little bit because it goes in with the child trafficking and some of the crazy stuff that has gone on in interlocking. And the islands around here, it's not just one place. I think that's one of the reasons why Michigan has such a high rate of child trafficking, because they can make kids disappear real quick here. And we do have islands, and Epstein's Island wasn't the only one. These people are sick. It's like, why would a person even think that way? I can't even relate to why a person would want to hurt a child in any way, shape, or form. It doesn't compute with me. But anyhow, back to the thing. Yeah, we didn't worry about things. Yeah, we pretty much ran the streets. I mean, we just did what we did. And, you know, we did a lot of things like, you know, we organized, uh, street hockey teams, uh, neighborhood street hockey teams, and we had tournaments and we did all kinds of stuff. So, um, we even drank out of garden hoses. Um, Oh no. Oh no. And we're still here to talk about it. Rode bikes without a helmet. I mean, wow. We, we went, we were, you know, we were Evel Knievels. I mean, we rode the edge. I never had a helmet. Did you ever have a helmet? I never had a helmet when I was a kid. No, never. Never. No knee pads, no elbow pads. Yeah. We lived dangerously. We lived on the edge. Yeah, go out. What I used to do is I used to take a can of Furniture Polish Pledge and use that on the slides because you could go really fast then. So I'd take that pledge and you'd, like, you know, put it on the slides. And, man, you'd go down those metal slides like like nine hundred miles an hour. That's great. Yeah. So, yeah, we did a lot of stuff. I mean. Well, you didn't have computers back then. You didn't have the cell phones back then. We had pay phones if you had to check in, but nobody checked in. But yeah, it was a different way, different era. But now kids can't pull their heads away from their cell phones. They can't carry on a conversation. They can't put two words together to make a sentence because they're, you know, they, Oh, I'm going to text you. Well, you're standing right next to me. Well, hello. This is something that blows people's minds about, about being on and everyone here, like, you know, you and I and people that are our age I've had, I've interviewed people and I've had younger people say to me, I don't know how you do this. And I was like, at first I was like, what are you talking about? And they said, I don't know how to have a conversation. She said, the one gal said, remember, I text all day long. That's all I do is I text with my friends. She said, you and my mom, you can sit down and have a conversation for hours with other people. And I didn't realize that it was actually, that it's actually a skill. It's a learned skill to be able to have conversations, understand social kind of like sensitivities. And I'm not always spot on with that because when I see bullshit, I'm done with it, you know. But you know what I mean. It's like you know the difference, but you can work in that realm to have polite conversations and such and try to be somewhat smooth to get out of it. But the kids don't know how to just sit around a campfire and talk. Those cell phones. How do parents take away the cell phone? Take away the cell phone and force the conversations. Force them into conversations. And the game. I used to do that with my nephew all the time. Wait, what are you learning in school today? And I want a dialogue. I want a dialogue. And so, yeah, you've got to force it. Get them into groups that force conversations. Well, what you said there was really key. And it goes back to actually caring about people enough to ask questions and be aware of them enough to ask their questions and see what they're interested in or tell me about this. Tell me about that. Just that sort of thing. If you can instigate people talking because there's very few people that will actually listen. So you have somebody that actually listens to you in a conversation. That's like that's almost unheard of. And that's part of being a good conversationalist. If people walk away and go, wow, that's a really nice person. They really care. You may not have said one word in that conversation, sat and listened. And I think you're a communication genius, you know. Well, you know, the schools, you know, the government school system is designed, purposely designed to dumb people down. That's why you see test scores constantly going down year after year after year. It's designed to make people inept in communication, in other skills. So that why? So that the government controls. They want you dumb enough. to where you can't function on your own. You can't self-govern. You can't get a good job. You're going to be a slave to their system because they designed you to be that way. And very little percent of the populace learned to break away from that. The problem is, ninety-nine percent don't understand it. Oh, that's just, you know, that's just too difficult because they've been manipulated and brainwashed. Let's call it what it is. It's brainwashing. I don't care how many people I've talked to about the stuff that I do. And they're like, well, you're constantly battling this every single day. You're damn right. You're welcome. Because if I don't, what are you going to do about it? What are you going to do when they're knocking on your door and demanding that you do X, Y, and Z? How are you going to defend yourself on that? Well, that would never happen. Guess again, Sherlock. Guess again. It is. Right now, they're pushing that you have to turn in your biometrics to do banking. Well, now what are you going to do? If you don't give them your biometrics, you don't get to do banking. That's what the Vietnamese are learning about right now. Eighty-six million accounts were shut down because of that. Look what happened to the truckers in Canada. Their accounts got shut down. Why? Because the government didn't like what they were doing. The monetary system is not secure at all. They can shut your banking off. They can shut your access off. They can shut your credit card off. They can destroy your retirement accounts. They say they can't, but look at all they have to do is engineer inflation and your retirement is nothing. Everything is under their control. So unless you have something tangible, you got really nothing in your hands. And the only way you keep what's tangible is by having the second amendment. I was going to say, you know what the most precious metal in the world is? Ammunition? Lead. Ammunition. We're sinking in the same direction. Yes. Yeah, lead is the most precious because when push comes to shove, when these banks think that they can control everybody, they need a real history lesson. History shows us that when you suppress a people long enough, they will rise up against you. That's just the nature of things. That's the way our man history has always been. You look at it through the history books on itself. Look at the Bible. The Bible shows it the same way. When people are suppressed long enough, they're going to rise up. They're going to revolt against it. So, yeah, these bankers obviously forget that. They think that, well, we're going to control all their money. You want to know something? You remember Granholm? She came after the contractors. You're not allowed to barter. Yes, again, we can barter. I can do whatever I want. I did a deck job in Commerce Township. They wanted a copy of the written contract. I said, there is no written contract. It's a normal contract. Well, we need to know how much the contract is so we can determine how much the permit price is going to be. Because every municipality is different in how they put together their costs on the permits. I have a question. If somebody FOIAs information, does a township have the right to demand that they turn in their physical address? No. No. I've been using a PO box for ages. The courts, they constantly, well, where do you live? I lie a boat on the soil of Michigan. Yeah, but what's your address? I don't have one. I do not have an address. I use a PO box. Well, you can't do that. Well, yeah, I can. So you don't have to answer that question. You don't have to give them that information. That's private information, hence the word private. This is what we teach through the trust process also. When you put your house into a trust, the trust owns the property, not you. You're just someone who abodes there. That is not your property. That is not your residence because the term residence, I don't want to go down that rabbit hole right now. But yeah, the word salad comes out because they start using words like resident and everything else. They're manipulating into their system. You have to break away from their word salad and get away from all that. And it drives them nuts. They've been trying for years to figure out where I live. They have no idea. They have no idea. So that's another reason why the secretary of state won't contract with me. If you do not have a permanent residence, then they cannot contract with you, which means you can't get a driver's license. You don't have to register your car. Nothing. You are out of their system. Can you vote? Um, that's another rabbit hole between voting and electing. There's a difference. Okay. I don't want to go down that rabbit hole. That's another big rabbit hole. Okay. I do not vote. Let's just put it that way. You elect. I elect. Now you got my curiosity. That's another whole thing. We'll come back to that later. There are so many rabbit holes to the system. And once you start understanding the crap that they're putting out there, then you know how to counter it. And that's kind of what I was going to cover here today. I don't know what time is it now. Twenty after twenty five after. All right. Let me let me get to some stuff here. Meat and potatoes. How many people actually know what the delegated authorities are to their public functionaries? How many are there? How many actual delegated authorities are there? Nineteen. There's eighteen. Pursuant to Article I, Section A of the Constitution. Most people have never read this. They have no idea. Do you want me to bring it up? Yeah, I got it right here. So the first one. Is it a website or is it a document? I'm sorry? Do you have it in document form or website form? Word document. Okay. Okay. Go ahead. The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes, duties, impose, and exercise to pay the debts and provide for the common defense and general welfare of the United States. But all duties, impose, and exercises shall be uniform throughout the United States. Okay, so what does that say? It says that they can create taxes. and duties and impulse, okay? And that shall be equal across the United States. Are we all paying the same taxes? No, we're not. Hmm. Number two, to borrow on the credit of the United States. Well, hmm. How does the United States create its credit? Something people should look into. Who's the original creditors here? Three, to regulate commerce with foreign nations and among the several states and with the Indian tribes. Wasn't it what Trump's doing when he does the tariffs? He's doing commerce with the other nations. That's perfectly within his realm to do. And they're having a tizzy about it. Oh, he can't do this. He can't do that. He can't do these. Yeah, he can. That's his job. And it says so right here. It's one of the duties we delegate to him. Next, to establish a uniform rule of naturalization and uniform laws on the subject of bankruptcies throughout the United States. I highly suggest people look into the Bankruptcy Act, and what took place under FDR. That is why we're in the mess we are today. To coin money, regulate the value thereof in a foreign coin and fix the standard of weights and measures. So who gets to create money? They do. The United States government, not the Federal Reserve. The Federal Reserve is a private corporation to provide for the punishment. Of counterfeiting the securities and current coin of the United States. Well, we don't have a current coin. Does everybody realize that? We're using fiat currency. Because under the Bankruptcy Act of nineteen thirty three. Gold and silver was confiscated by the government and replaced with the fiat currency. To establish post offices and post roads. To promote the progress of science and useful arts by securing for limited times to authors and inventors the exclusive right to their respective writings and discoveries. Next, to constitute tribunals inferior to the Supreme Court. Now, I'm going to come back to that one. to define and punish piracies and felonies committed on the high seas and offenses against law of nations. People don't realize, let's say you get stopped on the side of the road and the cop goes, we're going to impound your car. Did you know that there's a federal law called piracy ashore? He's not doing that. And for him to impound it, he's committing piracy. Think about that. To declare war, grant letters of mark and reprisal and make rules concerning captures on land and water. To raise and support armies, but no appropriation of money to that use shall be for a longer term than two years. Does our military disband after two years? Nope. Do you know why? Go ahead and tell everybody. How often do you hear them say, so long as there is an act of war or an emergency? I always hear it as an emergency. We're having a war on drugs. We're having a war on guns. We're having a war against the cartel. We're having an emergency here and an emergency there. How convenient. Perpetual war and perpetual emergencies. That's what I always hear is that they've always got a state of emergency going that has never gone away. To make rules for the government and regulation of the land and naval forces. To provide for calling forth the militia to execute the laws of the Union, suppress insurrections, and repel invasions. Hmm. Where is our militia these days? Why is the militia demonized? Thank you. Demonized to the extent it is. And who's demonizing them? Drive-by media? Specific government agencies? I don't know. Maybe the FBI. FBI. Why aren't they declaring all of these entities terrorist organizations like the fake stream media and the capture agencies? That's what I want to know. Well, we're going to find out once I file my lawsuit. We're going to find out why the FBI is acting and promoting domestic terrorism. Let's see here. To provide for organizing... arming and disciplining the militia and for governing such part of them as may be employed in the service of the United States, reserving to the states, respectively, the appointment of the officers and the authority of training the militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress. So they are supposed to be training the militia, not demonizing them. They're supposed to be training them. And providing firearms. Yes. to exercise exclusive legislation in all cases whatsoever over such district not exceeding ten miles square, as may by session of particular states, and the acceptance of Congress become the seat of the government of the United States, and to exercise like authority over the places purchased by the consent of the legislator of the state in which the same shall be for the erection of forts, magazines, arsenals, dockyards, and other needful buildings. So when they talk about D.C. becoming a state, can it become a state? No. It's not allowed. That territory is designed specifically for what it's being currently used for. It cannot ever become a state. And last, to make all laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into execution the foregoing powers and all other powers vested by this Constitution in the government of the United States or in any department or officer thereof. So these are the only delegated powers we've granted to them. This is it. You don't hear about, well, wait a minute. Do we need a license to carry a gun? Nope. Do they have the authority to mandate it? Nope. I don't see it here. Do they have the power to impose any other licenses for business? Nope. No. They're supposed to be promoting commerce and now they put restrictions on commerce. So are they following their delegated authorities? No, they're not. Absolutely not. What do we call that? Oh, usurpation of authority. Does that sound that familiar? I wanted to go back to one here. Which one was it again? The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes, duties, imposts, excises, to pay the debts and provide for the common defense and general welfare of the United States. But all duties, imposts, and excises shall be uniformed throughout the United States. Was that the one I wanted to go back to? I don't know. You said go back to the first one. No, I thought there was another one. I don't always know where you're going. Yeah, I know. I'm sorry. I don't know where I'm going sometimes either. I get on a thing and away I go. Oh, I know which one it was now. Where is it? Where is it? Where is it? To constitute tribunals inferior to the Supreme Court. Okay. I want to dwell on that one for a moment. We have a bunch of state courts. Are they superior to the Supreme Court of the land? No, they're not. Why do our state courts constantly give the middle finger to the US Supreme Court? They are all inferior courts, aren't they? So where does any state judge have the delegated authority to tell the US Supreme Court, I'm not going to follow what you've ruled on. I'm not going to follow what you say. They don't have that authority. The US Supreme Court has even had other cases on this. James B. Boise, the rules of the US Supreme Court are binding in all state courts, including the state Supreme Courts. They do not have the authority to say, you know what? We're not gonna follow it. They have to, they're bound by it. As an inferior court, they have no choice. Now, why am I bringing this up? In There was something called the APA, the Administrative Procedures Act, and I'm going to read some information here for you guys so that you can understand why all these state courts are unconstitutional. They're administrative courts. Where are we supposed to have under the Constitution administrative courts? We're not. But this is how it all happened. This is how it comes together. The Administrative Procedures Act, otherwise known as the APA, was created by Congress in nineteen forty six and has only been revised once. And that was in nineteen sixty nine. The current version of the APA affects the lives of every American because it allows our public officials the ability through rules, guidelines, policies and administrative laws to deprive Americans of their constitutional rights. How does the APA work? In order to better understand the process of converting a departmental rule into an administrative law, there are a few terms that you may need to know. For instance, proclamate. The legal definition states proclamate means to formally proclaim or declare a new statutory or administrative law as in effect after it receives final approval. It means to make known, announce, or declare officially. So you have a department or agency that creates and proclamates a rule. And once it finishes going through the APA process, it's now a law and the courts will enforce it. Now, what's wrong with that picture? Where did it go through the legislative branch? It never did. Case in point, the motor vehicle code, building code, health code. These are all administrative rules that are being enforced by administrative judges. Never went through legislation. When did the building code ever go and become a law? It never did. but yet they enforce it as if it's a law. I've been a contractor for over thirty five years. Drives me nuts when we get into court and the judge goes, well, the building code's a law. Really? When was it legislated? Which governor signed it into law? Doesn't exist, so you can't sit there and say it's law. Well, it's an administrative. Well, great. If you're going to claim that administrative law is binding on I, Then where's the wedding signature contract that I agree to these terms and conditions? You can't even produce a contract. Absent a contract, there is no obligation. How about the court rules? Why are we bound to follow the court rules? We're not licensed attorneys. We're not an attorney. The court rules are meant for the attorneys, not we the people. I can't tell you how many times I get in the court and the judge goes, well, you're not following the court rules. Judge, show me my wedding signature on a contract that says I agree to the terms and conditions set forth by the court rules. You know, when you said that the first time, I absolutely had my mind blown. I was like, never thought of that. Yeah. I've been doing this for a long time, and these judges cannot answer that question. They cannot go down. And I challenge you, judge. You're telling me I'm bound by these court rules? Prove it. Only by my consent. And I don't consent. We're in the Constitution to the state that unless I follow your court rules, I don't get to air my grievances. There's no restrictions on airing your grievance. I don't have to follow your rules to air my grievance. I have a right protected by the Constitution to air my grievance. So who the hell are you, you black robe satanics SOB? Oh, boy. Here we go. Go. Let's do it, Mike. It's coming. It's coming. You know how I feel about this. No censorship. Let her rip. So moving on. The words that they use are important to know because it's through the use of these words that our public officials or public functionaries are creating unconstitutional laws that are repugnant to the Constitution. Currently, the process begins with Governor Nitwit. That's my nickname for Nitwit. having issued executive order two zero one nine dash oh six, where the governor grants the following authority to the directors of each department within the executive branch of the state of Michigan. E.O. two zero one nine dash oh six subpart two subpart C. The director of the department may proclimate rules and regulations as necessary to carry out functions vested in the director of this order or other law in accordance with the Administrative Procedures Act of nineteen sixty nine. There it is. They admit to it right then and there. This clearly shows that the executive order issued by the governor under the executive branch, every departmental director of the state of Michigan has the granted legislative powers and authority to create rules or laws to be enforced upon the people. EO, two zero one nine dash oh six subpart two subpart H. The director of the department may utilize administrative law judges. and hearing officials employed by the Michigan Office of Administrative Hearings and Rules to conduct contested case hearings to issue proposals for decisions as provided by law or rule. They put it right out there in front of us. They're admitting they're committing an act of treason. These executive orders are not binding on us. These administrative courts have no jurisdiction over we the people. This is pretty outrageous how blatant they are. Yes. And it's right there for everybody to see. According to this section, the director is allowed to utilize an administrative judge that is employed by the Michigan Office of Administrative Hearings and Rules, MOAHR, which is an agency within the Department of Licensing and Regulatory Affairs. Laura. MOAHR includes a centralized administrative hearing system with several divisions of administrative law judges, the Michigan Tax Tribunal, and the office that oversees administrative rulemaking for all state departments and whose mission is to conduct administrative hearings and aid in the proclamation of rules. Nowhere, anywhere do you hear that the legislative branch is involved in any of this, do you? No. So what are all these departments and agencies? De facto. You cannot, by code and statute, create an office de facto. Do they have any authority over we the people? No. This is part of what people are going to have to know. If you want to get out from your property taxes, this information you're going to have to know. Because these are going to be the steps in taking to eliminate your property taxes because these departments and agencies are all fake. They don't exist in our world. This is all kabuki theater. This is all fake. This is all crap. This is them admitting that they are not going to follow the Constitution. Now, what makes the APA unconstitutional? The Michigan Constitution... and the U.S. Constitution are clear that there shall be a separation of power between the three branches of government. According to Article III, Section II of the Michigan Constitution, the powers of government are divided into three branches, legislative, executive, and judicial. No person exercising powers of one branch shall exercise powers properly belonging to another branch except as expressly provided in this Constitution. Well, you can't expressly create a coder statute that says, well, the judicial branch can now legislate a law and the or the executive branch is going to legislate. You can't do it. How do we know this to be true? The U.S. Supreme Court has ruled in A.L.A. Scheuster Poultry v. U.S. two ninety five U.S. four ninety five of nineteen thirty five. that Congress, and I quote, Congress is not permitted to abdicate or to transfer to others the essential legislative functions with which it is vested. So under that ruling, it clearly states that the powers of one branch can never be transferred to another branch. They have to always be separate. And that is not what they're doing. We FOIA Genoa Township. because of the issues that are coming that proclamated my court case. And I asked them in a FOIA, please list all the members of the executive branch. Please list all the members of the legislative branch. Guess what? They're the same. Now, how can that be? Under the Michigan Constitution, there's supposed to be a separation of power. So where did they acquire the ability to meld both branches of government together? What gave them that authority? I'll tell you, it's called a charter. What is a charter? It's a corporation. A corporation under a veil of a corporation, can a board of directors both do executive and legislative acts within that corporation? Yes, they can. So our elected officials under the veil of a corporation are ignoring the constitution by no longer abiding by the separation of powers. That's how they're playing the trickery on us. And that's why I stand firm that no branch of government is to be a corporation, period. Where does the word charter or the word corporation appear in our founding documents? Just like democracy, it's not there. Now, Byron Township is not a charter township, and we talked about this before. So how does that change things if your township or your city is not a corporation? Well, I'll lay it down to one. They're still acting as a corporation. Check to see if they're operating under an EIN, TIN, or Dun & Bradstreet number. Okay. That would be really interesting. Okay. See if they're operating on those because they are. What's that? If they have any of those numbers, then they're acting as a corporation. So to continue, both Congress and the state legislature do not have the constitutional authority to transfer or delegate legislative powers to the executive or judicial branches of government. The use of the APA to proclimate rules with the force of law bypassing the legislative process is a direct violation of the Constitution and and is therefore unconstitutional. Now, how does the APA deprive me of my rights? The best example of how the APA approved administrative laws can deprive you of your rights has been the mask and vaccine mandates, which were created and enforced by the state health departments. The policies, rules, and guidelines of the CDC or state health department are not legislated. They are approved through the use of the APA, and it's through these APA rules that our public agencies have used acts of intimidation and coercion to force these mandates on the American people. Another example will be the building departments requiring a homeowner to bring an older home up to current code requirements before they are allowed to place the house for sale on the open market. Now, these types of acts are more than just government overreach. This is a, which is a code for usurpation. So I can't tell you how many times I've run into homeowners. I got to sell my house, but I got to bring it up to current code. The house was built back in the forties and you got to bring it up to current code. You can't, there's no way without gutting the house and starting over. You cannot bring that house up to current code. What I found with inspectors, government inspectors, is they just pick and choose and it's just to basically justify their job. But they really don't know what they're looking at. There are people who couldn't make it in the private sector. So they got to give them a worthless job as a building or housing inspector. They don't know what they're looking at. They've never done the work. They have no idea other than this is the current panic of the month club hit list that they're giving them to look at. Yes. Jim Wall of the Livingston County Building Department. He and I go nose to nose all the time. We were on a job one time. He almost got people killed because of his X on that job site. Mike, you're a genius. Byron Township is under an EIN. It is? It is. There you go. Form SS-IV. Example, let's see. or our specialty tax line. Example of similar entities are Gaines Charter Township, which they merged with, uses its EIN for tax disbursement, and Byron follows the same model for property taxes, summer and winter, using BS&A online. Doesn't have it done in Bradstreet. Okay. I know they were replacing the Dun & Bradstreet with another system. I can't remember at the time I had what it was. But there's another system they're now integrating in there to take the place of the Dun & Brad. So they are acting as a corporation regardless of what they say. Yeah. Send them a FOIA. Ask them which members are the executive and which ones are legislative. See what they say. Okay. They probably won't answer it. Oh, yeah. They will. They will. So... Now, how does the APA place a financial burden on the people? When public officials create administrative laws, they attach fees, fines, or some other form of penalty for failing to follow their rules, guidelines, or ordinances. When businesses refuse to close during the pandemic, local state officials threaten businesses, license, arrest the owners, and charge excessive fines and fees. These APA rules affect gas prices, medical costs, food prices, building costs, and anything else that you need on a daily basis to take care of your business and or family. When public officials are allowed to create and enforce AP administrative laws that are unconstitutional, the American people will always be taxed with the financial burden. Michigan State legislators are refusing to cease and desist and declare the APA repugnant to the Constitution because for them to do so, our public officials would have to give up their money, power, control over the American people. So we have to put a stop to this. We have to stop funding them. We have to stop consenting to their crap. And that's where everybody's got to get involved. That is on everybody. You can't sit on the couch and wait for it to go away. It's not going away. And all you see is a constant expansion. How many departments and agencies do we really need? Take a look at, go onto the Attorney General website. Here's a good one. Go on the Attorney General website. See how many sub departments and agencies there are within the AG's department. You'd be amazed. National or Michigan? Michigan. I mean, you can do this with almost any of them. It's going to take me a while here. But the point of the matter is that the APA and its use is unconstitutional. These administrative laws are not laws. And the only one that can actually be is bound by them are other public functionaries, not we the people, but they've got everybody hoodwinked into believing, well, we made a rule, therefore you have to follow it. So, you know what? I've had business, I've been in business for a long time. So I just look at them and say, you know, I understand you act, you know, you're operating as a corporation and you're trying to make a profit just like everybody else. So I'll tell you what, if you're going to enforce these unconstitutional rules and regulations upon I, then I have no choice but to enforce my rules and policies upon you. And actually, you're gonna be amazed at this. My rules and regulations actually have an official name. It's called the United States Constitution. So you as a public functionary must abide by my rules known as the US Constitution. Don't forget, people, we are the grantors. Our founding documents is a trust indenture. We the people are the grantors. We the people are the beneficiaries. Public functionaries are the trustees. They have a fiduciary responsibility to the beneficiaries. And if they're causing a harm or damage to the beneficiary, we have a claim now against them. For them to violate the Constitution, their oath, to usurp their authority in the manner in which they are, to enforce these APA rules and regulations is causing harm and damage. You all have a claim. Everybody has a claim. Anytime any of this is imposed upon you, Time to stand up. There's nobody, nobody that is not being harmed or damaged in some way by what they are doing. Everybody's being harmed and damaged. I think, honestly, a checklist, a to-do list for people would probably be helpful. That's what I'm learning with the Constitution Party that I'm chairman of, which is the U.S. Taxpayers Party. What really surprised me is... How much direction people need. You can tell them stuff, but unless there's a checklist, people, and I get why they feel that way. It's intimidating. People won't even get up and talk at meetings because they're afraid of retribution. They're afraid of saying the wrong thing. The people are afraid of this government. And the retribution is real. There's no two ways about it. Byron Township just allocated seventeen thousand two hundred and ninety one dollars to the law firm Mika Myers to fight the Brandenburg versus Byron Township lawsuit, which is a emergency injunction. It's an injunction to stop the work that's going on instead of pausing it. They had the audacity to do that, never told anybody that they spent that money with that law firm to jump in front of my injunction. Temporary restraining order. So right now, I think the law firm is in violation. Not only is the law firm in violation, but the whole township is in violation. If you could open the case, I would file for an evidentiary hearing. I just need to see a couple of things. I need a certified copy of their anti-bribery statement from the law firm. I need a certified copy of their foreign agent registration statement. And I need a certified copy of their license to practice law. Failure to comply, failure to produce means they are disqualified from being able to represent anyone. Okay, certified copy of the license, certified foreign agent registration. Yep, and a certified copy of their anti-bribery statement. I always forget that one. If they can't produce those, then they are not qualified to represent anybody because according to their own state law, you've got to be licensed to represent anybody. So where's the license? Where's the foreign agent registration statement? Where's the anti-bribery statement? Uh-oh. Judge, they're disqualified. They can't represent anybody. I did that to a prosecutor one time. First five minutes into the court case, he committed perjury. He gone. So once you have that, then you go to the judge and say they have no right to represent this? Well, the judge is going to realize where this is going. And the judge don't want to go down that road and sure as hell doesn't want it on the record. So they're going to say, you know what, we're done here. So if I ask for those from the law firm? The judge is going to realize that the judge is next on the chopping block because the judge can't produce any of those documents, nor a valid oath of office pursuant to Article XI, Section I of the Michigan Constitution because they take the last sentence out of the oath of office. They also don't have their proper oath of office under any other requirements under the law for an oath of office. And the big killer is under Article VI, Section XIX of the Constitution, they have to produce a certified copy of a license to practice law for which they cannot do. So now they're admitting that they're not a judge. They're not qualified to be a judge according to the Constitution. Now, if it got out, if that got on the record, what do you think? Now, how long has that judge been on the bench? How many cases have gone before that judge? That would retroact every single case backwards. Every case would be void. All rulings are void. I'm doing research here while you're talking. So I'm trying to document this. Okay, here's the extended explanation to this that goes along with this. Pursuant to Title XXVIII, Section four, five, five, in conjunction with the Seventh Circuit in the case of Taylor v. O'Grady, in nineteen eighty nine, upheld by the U.S. Supreme Court in nineteen ninety four, the judges opine that if the possibility of impropriety exists and the possibility need not be proven, just that it may exist, a judge is automatically disqualified. No motion needs to be filed. No affidavit needs to be filed. It is automatic. It is self-serving and no judge has the authority not to recuse themselves. All orders issued by a disqualified judge are void and have no bar of recovery. If the judge continues issuing orders, they're looking at violating the Interstate Commerce Act, and they're violating their oath and committing treason. Now, because we can show that they don't have a valid oath of office, no anti-bribery, no foreign agent registration, and no license to practice law, we have now gone well beyond the possibility of impropriety. We can actually prove the improprieties. So that judge is disqualified. Done. Now, how many other judges fall into that category? How many court cases are we talking about? Every single one of these administrative cases? Every single one of them. Yes. That overturns every single decision. Now, is that going to cause a problem? Yeah. Because now some of these cases where we've got convicted murderers, rapists, and all that, yeah, guess what? We're going to have a problem with this because guess what? Their cases are void as well. This is the damage they have done to the American people through this crap. Well, they're letting them out anyway. I mean, you know, so the point is, is that, you know, if you have a good militia, they'll probably take care of them, you know. So, but this is unfortunately the fallout that's going to happen when these administrative satanic bozos are exposed. And this is all going to come out. This is all coming out. I mean, I've been hammering on this for years. I mean, when the judge comes in and out of the courtroom, they don't even ask us to rise because after all, we're living men and women. We can't rise. We're not dead. Only the dead rise. Yeah, they don't even ask us to rise anymore because they know we're not going to tolerate their crap. So everybody just sits there. You know, you're not a judge. You know, some people say, well, that's being disrespectful. No, it's not. No, it's not. There's two sides of that coin. Are they actually a judge? No. Can we prove it? Yes. Do they have any authority? No. Are they violating the Constitution? Yes. What more do you need? It's all there. We've exposed all this. The state police are de facto. City and township police departments are de facto. Oh, you're anti-police. No, I'm not. I'm not anti-police. The sheriff's department is de jure. So if they want to do law enforcement, let them become all sheriff deputies. These city and township police posts, they become sheriff posts. Used to be every town had a sheriff and deputies. What happened to that? Who changed that? Why did they venture off of that? They went to policy enforcers. And that's what I can see, like, at our township, what they do with the sheriffs when they walk in. They tell the sheriffs to direct that. They tell them and direct the sheriffs to remove people who don't comply with what they say. Right. And people need to stand up in unison and say, no, you're not removing anybody. We're here to air our grievances. We have the right to air our grievances. There's no time limit on airing a grievance. In any manner we choose. And you know what? As a unison, we are going to file a class action lawsuit against every officer that violates their oath to the people. Personally, not the department, but that officer in his personal capacity. needs to be sued by everybody who's at that meeting. Well, I tell you, the judges have to be removed first because of the activist judges we have, too. I mean, there's got to be a way to remove these judges. This is a shame. The entire state of Michigan is just a shameful disgrace. Time to start defunding them. How do we defund them? Pay them in coffee beans. Seriously. Seriously. We've done it. We've had someone do it in Minnesota. We've had someone do it in Florida now. For taxes or for what? One was a, I believe it was for a credit card. Don't quote me on this. It's been a while since, and I forget what the other one was. I think it was some sort of ticket that they went to court on. But yeah, if you get a ticket, any security instruments, i.e. ticket from a fake cop, Payton Coffee Beans. Well, I tell you what, it's like when I see people doing that with the credit cards, I've known a few people that have done it. And I, I have a little bit of a problem with that because if you're spending money or you're not taking responsibility for it, and I don't know what the situation is, but you need to, that's, that's a problem. You're falling into the trap. Okay. What's the trap? Who's the under, all right. But for the credit cards, I mean, if you're out there buying stuff on, on somebody else's money, Are you? Well, I think you are. I mean, if you're having somebody else that's taken on that debt and I get it, but it's like, I just don't think that it's a great, I don't know. I don't know enough about, tell me why I'm wrong. Convince me I'm wrong on this because I just see it as somebody who is irresponsible that's buying something on somebody else's dime and trying to get outside of the responsibility. That's what I see. Okay, that's what they want you to believe. Okay. That is actually the administrative side making you believe that. That's why I said, go research the Bankruptcy Act of the United States. How are we able to pay an obligation if we don't have lawful money? The fiat currency is an IOU. So all we're doing is passing around IOUs, but we're not administrating the bankruptcy. And that's what we're supposed to be doing is administrating the bankruptcy and nobody's doing it. So when you hear people discharging their credit cards, they're actually lawfully discharging against the bankruptcy. So, When you get a credit card, you don't have to be behind on your credit card payments or anything else. You just keep making your payments to them. Go ahead. But ask them, send them a letter and ask them under a twelve CFR one zero zero six point three eight. Who is the original creditor on the account? The term account under Fifteen USC Chapter forty one is an open ended line of credit. Who is the original creditor on that account? It's not them. Banks are not alone allowed to give credit on their loans on their based on their own credit. You, we, the people are the creditors. So they're accessing your public trust. Through the Treasury Department to pull all these shenanigans. So when you discharge the debt on the credit card, you are the original, how can you be the debtor and the creditor at the same time? You can't be. They're making you believe you're the creditor. What you can do, if you really wanna have fun, call them up and say, hey, you know what? It's come to my attention that we're not doing things correctly. So you're claiming that I owe this obligation. Is that correct? Yes. Okay, then if I accept this, and just ask it in a question form, watch the reaction you're going to get on this. If I accept this debt, that makes me the surety. And as the surety, I would like to invoke my right of segregation. And under the rules of segregation, I need you, the bank, to bring forward all the incoming and outgoing ledgers associated with the monetization of my signature regarding this. Because the credit card application is a promissory note, which you have monetized on the open market. And they're making money. Buku bucks. You get a credit card. Oh, you're approved for five thousand dollars. Guess what? They actually yanked twenty five thousand dollars out of your account. They gave you five. They're using the other twenty. You're not getting the full amount of what they yanked out. You're only getting a partial of it. So if I'm the surety, I invoke my right of subrogation. I need to know all the chattel, all the incoming outgoing chattel that's going in and out of this account. I would need a full forensic accounting of this. Watch what happens. They hit the panic button. Go in there and say, I'm going to make you the fiduciary in this matter. Oh, no, no, no, you can't do that. Oh, yes, I can. And here's your fiduciary instructions. Because now you have to do what's in the best interest of the beneficiary. That would be me. Now I need you to give me a full accounting on this. Watch what happens when they do when you do this. They just lose their minds because now you're talking their language. They know exactly what you're saying. They know exactly what you're asking for. And they don't want in any way, shape or form want to admit to this because if it gets out that this is what they're doing, they're done. Wow. Well, have I done this? Yes. We've done it for credit cards. We've done it for income tax. I've done it for several different things. Others have done it for medical bills. There's a process to do it. And guess what? How many people are afraid of the IRS? Yes. Most people are afraid of the IRS. Why? Oh, you're going to they'll take your house. They'll garnish you. They'll do all kinds of the IRS. And, you know, they're the most powerful agency out there. They're not an agency. They're not a government agency. They're a private third party debt collector. No, it's actually the Forestry Service and Bureau of Land Management that are more powerful. And the DNR, they can come on your land, take your land without a warrant. And they've been doing it. Yeah, because someone consented. What's that? Because someone obviously consented. Somebody consented. But here's what we do when we discharge. We get the IRS to work for us. The IRS now works for us. We don't have to be afraid of the IRS. The IRS is our friend. because we make them through their own paperwork work for us in discharging this obligation that they're supposed to be and what we're supposed to be doing to discharge the bankruptcy of Hmm. I'm going to have to do some studying on this because this is outside of my area of expertise, clearly. I'm just trying to give you a skim code. I mean, to do something like this is a deep dive situation. There's a lot involved and there's a lot of terminology that people need to learn. So I'm just giving you a glossy over of what this all entails. But yeah, we're gonna eventually start teaching people how to do this along with a few other things, including discharging or eliminating property taxes. So you can discharge property taxes. I've done that too. Well, see, that's what I'm interested in. Because I've asked the county, I said, okay, where's the contract? Well, there is no contract. Well, after the contract, where's the obligation? So I'll tell you what, you know what, I'll accept it and I'm going to discharge it. Oh, you can't do that. Sure I can. And if you refuse under state law, any tender of an obligation that is refused is tendered in full by state law. Is that, is that true for all states? Under federal, yeah. I don't know about every state having a statute like that. I'm sure they do. But even under federal law, there's federal law that says the same thing. Okay. So because they're supposed to guarantee us a Republican form of government before section four, failure to do so is a violation thereof. Now you've got federal jurisdiction on any matter. Ask them what specie of payment they want. Under Michigan, how are taxes supposed to be paid? Oh, by lawful money. What's lawful money? Gold, silver, silver certificates, yada, yada. We don't have access to that. So how do we take care of that obligation when we don't have lawful money? You're asking the state, the tax assessor is doing what? They're asking you to break the law. Oh, you can pay us by credit card. You can pay by cash or whatever. Wait a minute, you're asking me to break the law because the law says something different. Why are you asking me to break the law? Well, once again, I'm learning more things every day. I guess I need to study this a little bit more, but it's, it's, this is so interesting because we've gotten so far away from what we were supposed to be as a country that I think we should consider everything and try to learn what we don't know. Especially if I don't know something, that's what I want to learn. And I want to look into and find out how to do this and, or, you know, if there's even a better way to do this. So this is amazing. I want to end the property taxes, income taxes. All these taxes need to go away. We need to cut about ninety five percent of our government out because it's just dead weight. They have built themselves a little a little fortress that is almost impermeable except for the Constitution. And, you know, I went to a meeting this past weekend and I was kind of shocked because they kept saying Constitution. We are a party of the it was a Republican Party. We are a part of the Constitution. And I sat there, I'm like, guaranteed nobody in this room has probably ever read it. So now that's become a buzzword for marketing. But they're not a party of the Constitution. They don't even know what it is, nor do they stand for enforcing it. It's just not a buzzword, just like every other buzzword, like Republicans, Democrats, everything, you know. But if you if you it actually is a thing that will stand if you study it, if you read it, if you study it, if you understand it. And honestly, it's like the Bible. It's a lifelong pursuit. And the more time you put in it, the better you're going to get at it. It's clear to me. I mean, it's really clear that you know things in that area better than I do, which I like. I like talking to people that know the subject matter better than myself. I don't want to be the expert. I want to talk to people that know more than I do. That's how you learn. And that's okay. That's not a failure. That's truly conducting yourself in a smarter way to live because every day you should improve and you should know more. So I really appreciate what you have to say. Every day you don't learn something is a waste of day. Absolutely. Well, you're ready to go on to your day? My day, I don't know if my day ever ends. I mean, I just, it's perpetual. Mine just keeps going on too. So anyhow with that, so let's say a prayer. Dear Heavenly Father, thank you for Mike and for John and all the wonderful people out there that are listening that want to see the United States righted. and back to the form that you intend it to be. That we serve you, we serve each other, we care about each other. Help us to communicate clearly that we actually do care about individuals and that we're not putting our thoughts and ideas ahead of our service mind that's working not for self-gain, but to see things run the way that you want it to be. and honor and glory to you. Please help us to know how to get the distractions out of our lives and focus on what you want us to focus today. Thank you so much for everything you've done for us. The rain that we had last night, we had a lot of rain last night. It was amazing. Thank you for the rain and for good people who are willing to step forward and share their knowledge with others. It's a wonderful education process. And we're thankful for being alive right now and going through this time. In the name of Jesus Christ, we pray. Amen. And we love you, God. So there you go. So any last words, Mike? No excuses. Get out there. Get active. This is all affecting you. And it's going to affect you, your kids, your grandkids. If you want your grandkids to live in the Republic, you have to step up. You got to make a checklist. That's what I said to John. We got to make a checklist of what to do, in what order, how to do it. Because when we listen to people talk about things, it's kind of a random thing that we're supposed to piece things together. There needs literally, because this is the way people think, there needs to be a checklist until they feel comfortable enough to do it without those guidance, those rails to stay on. That's going to become increasingly important, I think. So, and I love this. My checklist starts off with get everything into trusts, into a series of trusts. Not just one trust, but a series of trusts. And then you can start looking at your status. You can start looking into discharging of debts, your property taxes. You know, it goes on from there. But the foundation, the foundation, regardless of what area you want to go into next, get your stuff protected through a series of trusts. Because once you're protected, I mean, I'm living proof of it. The state of Michigan tried, they lost. Livingston County tried four times, lost all four times. So I'm a living testament to the fact that if you don't have your stuff protected, if you're not set up correctly, they're going to use that against you. They can't touch me in the financial aspect. They can't hurt me. So what does that do? It scares the living shit out of them. Why? Because they don't have any leverage. Well, I got to tell you, I want to go after these attorneys and these judges for the fraud that they have committed upon the people of Michigan because it's egregious usurpation. It's not sort of. It is an egregious usurpation, and it has to be dealt with. And then the public functionaries, too. I mean, we're going to have to clean the state out. We have to clean it out. Do not hire bar attorneys. The politicians, the political parties, it has to be cleaned out. The lobbying that's going on, the self-enrichment, all of this stuff, if we don't fix... the fundamental core of what's wrong with our government, none of these proposals or amendments or this nonsense that they propose is going to, they're just adding more convoluted trash on top of the trash pile of what's wrong. We've got to take it back and nullify. You can't add more. You've got to take things out if we're going to fix it. And if anybody's talking any message other than that, They have to be disqualified for office because they don't know the subject matter enough on how to reform the core problem. They don't even know what the core problem is. And this is what I heard the other night with the candidates. And I think I'm going to do a segment that says, all candidates suck. Prove me wrong. Because what they're doing is they're talking about their little issues, their little messaging issues to get people's attention. That's just adding more crap to the pile, the heat pile of nonsense going on. We have to clean house. We have to get rid of it. We have to nullify. We've got to absolutely go back to Norton versus Shelby County and get rid of, All of these unconstitutional departments and agencies, regulatory agencies, where we're dead in the water. Nothing else we do is going to matter. Nothing, including the ones that are rigging the elections, like ElectionSource and Dominion. They're a department, in effect, of Dominion. And now they've got, I think somebody is saying that they want to go to Hart and look into who started the Hart system for our elections. If we don't look into these core issues and we're just listening to somebody else tell us what to think or what to do, we're just part of their little cult system of capture. It's an asset capture. So with that said, boys and girls. Cut the head off the snake and go cut the head off the snake. Stop using bar attorneys. We need to get rid of the bar associations. Interesting information came by my way a couple of weeks ago. The federal bar association is not a government agency. However, the state bar associations are connected to the state Supreme Courts. There was a create and oversee them. Where? Within the Constitution. is our supreme courts or any court delegated the authority to create a an entity like the bar association a legal cartel it's a cartel and it's about making money and controlling things has nothing to do with serving us all it is is revenue generation for them when you look at the cases and how they prosecute them ninety eight percent of our money judgment and it goes into their benny's package Think this through, guys. They're using their positions to self-enrich through the government operations, which are completely and utterly illegal and unconstitutional. Unlawful. I'll use unlawful. So there we go. Well, boys and girls, we're going to go to that part of the show. Ding, ding, ding, ding. I'm going to rewatch the show because I was looking things up and documenting where and I decided I got to go and just do the show and then go back later and rewatch and take my notes because I'm kind of like I'm bifurcating my attention here. But yeah. At any rate, ding, ding, ding, ding, go to BrandonBurkeForGovernor.com because I'm the best non-conseater who's ever not conceded in history in the United States of America. And I like to have a discussion with the rightful president of the United States. President Donald Trump, cowboy boots, I wear them better. We talk this, that, we fix things, and then we nullify everything, okay? Everything needs to go be cut back. We need to have the ultimate hatchet person to go in there in a corporate sense. And cut this thing back to size. It's not going to even be what do we get rid of. It's what do we keep. And that's the question that has to be asked. What do we keep? And if it doesn't pass the test, it's got to go. When we teach kids hockey, what's one of the first things we do? Back to basics. Back to basics. There we go. Well, guys, God bless you all. God bless all those whom you love and God bless America. We'll see you tomorrow. Thanks, Mike, for being on. I love this segment with you. And we'll be on tomorrow with Liberty Essentials. And then Greg Martini would notice us. And we're working through some of these processes to get them streamlined so that we can teach people across the state, maybe even the United States, how to take their local governments, their counties, and their states back, get rid of these unconstitutional administrative judges. They're not judges, they're just administrators, and they're just revenue raisers for themselves. I mean, they've turned government into a for-profit business. That's what they've done. And they take what we do because... frankly, they're kind of stupid. They can't make anything. They don't know how to create jobs or money or anything that unless they take it from someone else. That's just the truth. So anyhow, we'll see you guys tomorrow. Thanks for being on today, Mike. Yep. No problem. Thanks. Stan.