Published Jan. 30, 2025, 9:02 a.m.
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Good morning and welcome to Brandenburg News Network. I am Donna Brandenburg and it is the thirtieth day of January twenty twenty five and welcome to our show this morning. I think we're going to have a little change up this morning. Sean was having problems with his Internet a couple of days ago and this morning I couldn't get a hold of him. So I'm wondering if if he's having some difficulties this morning, both by phone or by Internet. So we'll have him on if he ends up getting things figured out, and he'll be on. But in the meantime, I've got Karen the Riveter, my buddy, on, and it's kind of nice. We haven't had a show together in a while, and I think we need to ask some really tough questions. Karen went to a human trafficking conference, and we're going to talk about that this morning, as well as this midair plane collision over the Potomac. Okay. Guys, I've got a lot of questions about this, okay? I think this is a very tragic situation if there were a lot of people in this hurt. But I have some real questions on if people were hurt, if the narrative is just a narrative, and or what actually happened there. And before we jump to any conclusions, we've got to ask the questions first. And that's kind of where I'm stuck right now. I'm neither in a state of panic or, oh, my gosh, you know, the drones are coming or whatever it is. I'm just looking at this going, well, well, well, let's ask some tough questions and not be afraid of asking those questions, but ask the questions to get to the real answers. And with that said, I'm bringing on my buddy, Karen. How are you doing, Karen? Hey, my love. Game on. And Karen is amazing. You know your real friends when you call them like ten minutes or less than that when a camera needs to go on and say, hey, can you join me? I think I've got a change of schedule here and I need you. And she's like, absolutely, every single time. So I appreciate you coming on this morning. You're very welcome. I love that about you. I think I could probably sing bass this morning, but You were up pretty late last night. So was I. I went to bed for a little while and I just wasn't sleeping very well. So I got up in the middle of the night and did a few things. I did some posting and some research and such. And I saw that we were both up and so we were talking back and forth. And, you know, and I made a couple of posts that maybe I should bring maybe I should bring those posts up and go launch right into it. But I've got some real concerns. Now, I've done a little flying, not a lot of flying, but a little flying, enough to be just a little dangerous with assessments, okay? And I say that as a qualifier here for the fact that I have some questions because there's some things that aren't quite making sense to me. OK, not that I'm an expert in this. I'm literally just posing some questions that I believe need to be answered. So I'm going to go to my ex account right now and see if we can go through this. Besides watching a dam that's falling apart over there in New Mexico, I did write about I posted something. to a comment from Wall Street Apes this morning. And then I dove into the plane crash. And it's really, there's something off about this to me, which as soon as I see something where I feel there's a problem or something's just not quite adding up, I had to ask some questions. Not that I disbelieve it, not that I'm being heartless. It's kind of like more brave and heartfelt to get to the truth than to buy the nonsense okay and who's telling us what's going on the agencies that we're learning that we just can't trust right now okay so that that's the first thing the second thing is I'm just going to read my post and maybe this will make some sense So a Black Hawk helicopter flew directly into the passenger plane, into a passenger plane of sixty-four passengers arriving from Wichita, Kansas. Odd coincidence, DC emergency responders were practicing for a water rescue in the Potomac just one week ago. Very odd coincidence. The plane came from close proximity to where drones are being manufactured in Kansas. And I know one of the guys that was the head guy talking about the drones, John Ferguson, we are friends. So it just like struck me as odd. Right. Then we're going to go to another another space here. I'm just going to put the phone up here. Lockheed Martin executive remotely controls UH-City Blackhawk from three hundred miles away during demo at you at a USA symposium. So let's kind of dig into this just a little bit. So we proved that helicopters can fly remotely and they have done it. And so let's throw this into the mix of asking questions. Lockheed Martin executive. And as soon as I saw the crash, I was like, This almost had to be remote control because of the flight pattern. It doesn't make sense. Now, I could be wrong on this, but there's some things we need to ask. Lockheed Martin executive remotely controls UH-XX Blackhawk from three hundred miles away during a demo at a USA symposium using a tablet connected via a data link to the helicopter three hundred miles away in Bridgeport, Connecticut. Lockheed Martin, Rotary and Mission Systems President Stephanie Hill controlled the UH-XX Blackhawk. While safety pilots were present inside the cockpit, as per FAA regulations, the helicopter autonomously performed takeoff and hover before flying a circuit and landing again without pilot input. Matrix is the technological foundation for DARPA's alias air crew labor and cockpit automation system program that Sikorsky has developed since twenty twenty. The system can receive remote control commands in real time without need of assistance from an onboard pilot. Blink, blink, blink. OK, so they've been doing this according to this. for at least, since at least, I'm going to say it was way before that because they never tell us anything on time. So before anybody gets all tied up in an emotional response to the plane helicopter mid-air collision, let's just ponder the possibility of yet another alternative narrative. Could both the plane and the helicopter have been remote control? Maybe no passengers. They have the technology to do this. And the air traffic, the thing that signaled me to this was the air traffic controller's response was not what you would expect. So who's controlling the news? Why start trusting them now? Have a great day. And if this proves not to be the case, I will not regret asking the question and demanding accurate, truthful answers. I'm not holding my breath, however. One more thing I want to go over, and it's another set of questions. Who the hell wrote the procedure for the helicopters starting from the north end of the airport? And I've flown into that airport, circling the airport and crossing a busy passenger jet approved landing approach on a training flight in the midst of a busy airport on a train flight. Okay, how amateur were the alleged pilots? Don't have the answer for it, but I got to ask it. The airport is ILS capable. So that's an instrument landing system. There's infrastructure on the ground to enable aircraft to stay on autopilot all the way down flawlessly, to my knowledge, guided by the airport infrastructure, more or less. And so realistically, this whole procedure is absolutely absurd. And whoever wrote it should absolutely be held accountable for the stupidity, the sheer stupidity and absurdity of the policy. And the helicopters, another thing is helicopters are made for agility and visual sight flying. If they had dropped that helicopter down now whether it was a um a uh a seahawk or a black hawk I don't really care a seahawk is a is a kind of a variation of of it but it's the same kind of thought process for me behind this and I'm not an expert just know enough to be a little dangerous on this the helicopter is made for agility and visual visual flight sight flying right if that helicopter pilot had dropped that helicopter down even twenty five feet even twenty five feet I'm wondering if they would have missed it so there was no pilot correction to the helicopter path excuse my cynicism to this entire narrative that's being sold out there because I'm not I'm not just not kind of buying it I'm not buying this yeah one of the posts that I have shared I didn't have to go back to my Telegram because I shared it amongst some other ones late last night. But they said that the helicopter rose up like it was going along. And then it suddenly shot up. And there's the only way to do that is to really power into it. It shot up like twenty five feet or whatever it was. So it it looks as if it was very deliberate that it went up. Now, I don't know how they have that record. So my question to you, because I'm like, I know you know what's more normal. And so to examine what's abnormal, you have to know what's normal. So what's normal with a Black Hawk training helicopter? Are they leaving or landing at a civil airport? Or are they coming and going from a military base? Why are they even in this? jurisdiction at a landing site for a plane? That is a great question. That is a great question. And I know a little bit about the landing pattern there. It's kind of odd. They come down on one runway and they shift over to the next one right next door to it and come down. It's a different landing pattern. But that's what the policies and the procedures dictate them doing. And the plane itself had about, to my knowledge, a flawless approach. Now, the helicopter is where things get real interesting, okay? To me, they're real interesting because I don't see a pilot just going, oh, hey, there's a plane. Let's ram into it, okay? With the fact that they can see, you know, they're going to be able to see. Look at how helicopters have the ability to kind of see around them, and they're agile. They can go up and down. I mean, my gosh, you know, some of the – even the small planes, you can lose so much – altitude so fast, it would, it would shock you. And these aircraft are made somewhat for agility. I kind of don't believe that they would have an amateur pilot flying in a heavily populated, very busy civilian air port. Okay. So they're right there. We've got a problem. I just, I just don't believe it. So if the pilots were even training to go around that, okay. I don't think they're going to have, you know, Bob on his first week on the job flying this thing. I'm just saying, right. And to see the flight path, then the altitude increase that you saw makes me ask a lot more questions. So when the, when that happened in the response from the tower, was there, there's just something off. And I'm not holding my breath for the real answer right now because there's too much going on that we can't count on. And I really do feel that way about it. However, I think we need to ask these questions. Let me throw up your post here. Thanks for putting it in the chat. And let's take a look at what you did. They also, did you see how they fly around the airport? The pattern is just, it's a strange pattern, just a strange, strange pattern. If they were in fact training, okay, I'll give you that. But it was just, there's just too many anomalies to the scenario for me to go, okay, I'm going to believe this. You know what I mean? You there, Karen? Yeah. Oh, Karen. I'm here. Let's see. Oh, Karen. I'm here. Hang on a minute. What are your thoughts on what I just said? Yeah, it's again, like it's hard for people to discern when you got a whole bunch of information coming at you and you're like, well, where is this coming from? Who's disseminating it? How fast is it coming? That's a big one. Why are we getting audio from the dispatch really quickly after an incident? Didn't it feel like the passport incident at nine eleven? That's what I felt like. And then also there's also an emergency nuclear response team or effort that's working in New York right now to do the rescue, just like they were doing the water rescue or on the Potomac. It feels nine eleven ish. Remember, they had they had people in the tower and they were taking pictures in the windows and such. And there's no way an amateur pilot would have flown those planes into the World Trade Center. There's no possible way. I mean, they might be able to scramble with a Cessna for, you know, you know, kind of sort of, but not, not what, not what they did. It's ridiculous. So there, there's a lot of questions that need to be asked. And this is, this is just, this is kind of crazy. I mean, why would they have had it be like, I don't know. I've never seen a plane icon ever when there's a helicopter up in the air. Maybe I just haven't seen it. I've done this before where I just go, you know, I think I'll just go look at what's happening in the skies over Michigan or wherever it is. And I look at something and I'm like, well, you know what, I've never looked at flight patterns over Hawaii before. Let me just text something to Donna. Here's a picture, Donna. I did that for Hawaii. I was like, why is there a pattern of this tight rectangle over a shallow part of a Hawaiian island? Why are they repeatedly doing this? Who's there? Why are they doing it? It just didn't make any sense to me. And there are people who watch flights all the time who can go, oh, yeah, that's normal. This is what the explanation is. So I can ask a question, but not get too emotional about it. And that's the thing. Get and not get emotional. Like people were like prayers for all the survivors or whatever. And I'm like, well, I just feel objective about it. I don't even feel. paying for the idea of people dying or fighting for their lives in the freezing river, because I don't know if that's true or not. That's it. That's exactly it. And they could, they could be using photos from their rescue training session in the news right now because they had it one week earlier. So the conditions are going to be a little similar and such. So I'm just asking a lot of questions, but I'm not invested in any, any of the questions and I'm really not invested in the whole narrative that's coming out. Unless we're on the ground, we can't see it. So this is MJ, isn't it? MJ Truth. This is from, I love that guy. This was either an accident or the plane was the target and the helicopter was the weapon. We need to know who was on the plane and hopefully it wasn't anybody about to testify for important matters. It may not have been anybody, anybody. We don't know. The plane was on a predictable track and assigned to a runway rarely used per ABC report tonight. I don't believe that that's true. Helicopter flew in a regular path, then rose to meet the altitude of the plane and change directions to intercept in the last few seconds of the flight. Maximum allowed height for the helicopter was two hundred feet. which is where it was up to until thirty seven seconds before impact surging from two hundred feet to three fifty just seconds before impact a deliberate maneuver and takes considerable power to climb. I agree with that. He's he's he is not wrong with the assessment there. It does it, you know, from what I know and I don't know a ton. OK, but I do honestly watch. I watch the planes sometimes way too much. You know, I'm that person. I'll sit there and watch planes and flight patterns for like literally hours and hours and hours. OK, because I find it absolutely fascinating for no good reason other than I'm a nerd. So I'm still sending you links that you can use to put up if you want. I can't see this. The accident happened in the river. Both the helicopter and the plane crashed in the river. It's east of the approach end of runway three three. It was probably out in the middle of the river. Do you find that odd? I do. I find that really an odd response from air traffic controller. Just saying. Okay, let me put another one up here a minute. What's your thoughts, Karen? You need some coffee. Sorry. Every time I go to Telegram or I'm looking for a link, I'm talking to you. But sometimes you get it. Sometimes you don't. So that's why my audio dropped. So I again, it's like what what is you're saying? Well, that's odd. Well, half of America would would just accept it. Wouldn't they say something like, I saw the... I don't know. It just isn't odd. This is interesting because there's a movie. I want to say it was Matt Damon. This was on maybe a month ago. He's an air traffic controller. Oh, who was it? No, no. Kiefer Sutherland. That's who it was. He's an air traffic controller. And he's really good at the job. Really good. He's at an airport that gets tons of traffic. So it's an extremely high-stress job. And something bad happens. And then he has to take years off. And then he comes back later on in an emergency scenario. But he has PTSD. So that's the movie. But I got to see the inside of that movie. community in a sense that's the best word I can come up with at the moment and I I got to see what their screens looked like at least a while ago on this you know computer age in the movie but um the terminology they were using how they were applying it the language they used to communicate with planes It was completely foreign to me. And I was curious about how this works because it was beyond my technical ability. But I have a clue. I have a clue now, you know. Yeah. And radio, it's almost impossible to understand anybody because they've got that stupid squawk. Yeah. And it's like I'm like, you know, half the time I'm like, OK, well, here I'm going to speak clearly and slowly instead of being like, well, you know, it happens when you're up there flying. I was at an airport one time, and it's like you're supposed to announce yourself and your location and such. And you know what happens with these old guys? These old guys have been flying all their life, right? They just get up and they fly. And so you've got to kind of watch for them because it's kind of a courtesy thing. And so you're watching. You have to watch, right? So I did not read this Donald Trump, President Trump's tweet, but he almost sounds like what I was saying, which is crazy. Maybe we're mind melding here. I don't know. The airplane was on a perfect and routine line of approach to the airport. That is correct. The airplane looks like it did everything correctly. The helicopter was going straight at the airplane for an extended period of time. It is a clear night. The light on the plane were blazing. Why didn't the helicopter go up or down? That was, that was my reaction too. Why didn't the control tower tell the helicopters what to do instead of asking if they saw the plane? That was my point right there is why would you ask that? You know, do you see the plane? No, you know, it's like, it's like drop, drop out the two to a hundred feet, man. You could do that in a few seconds, you know? It's a bad situation that looks like it should have been prevented. Not good. I would agree totally with a rightful president of the United States, rightful president since twenty twenty. I might add. Well, I like the fact that he's asking questions and saying this isn't right. And he's hinting at things that maybe the public wouldn't ask about. Why didn't it go up or down? Why didn't they, like, I'm thinking it would be like, abort, abort. You know, like somebody's screaming, you need to reduce altitude, reduce altitude. Yeah, and not just take off and go right for it like a bullet. Are you kidding me? So it doesn't make sense to me either. But maybe, you know, again, you've got a military craft in a civilian airspace. Are they using the same communications? Um, if they are, does that make any difference? I, I don't, I just don't know. I have no clue what that, what that sounds like, you know, in an audio or what that looks like in the, in that kind of scenario. What is it doing over a civilian airport? Yeah. That just doesn't make any sense to me. It makes no sense that they were doing training there. If you ever look down, and I think it's Alabama where they actually train the helicopters, that's a fun look. You know, you can go up there, you can go down there and see helicopters. Man, they're all over the place. And I like to click on them to see, you know, see kind of what they're doing. I'm just because, why? Because helicopters are cool. So look at what I just stumbled onto. Lockheed Martin demonstrated a remote Blackhawk technology in Washington just mere months ago, two weeks before. But they were showing this off at other times, too. You know, this is not the only time. But I'm glad we're bringing up the fact that planes, I asked a friend of mine who was a fighter pilot, very, very good fighter pilot, carrier pilot, in fact, who I think that the fighter pilots for what he flew, it's like two percent. And the carrier pilots are the elite of the elite of the elite. They are not just like, oh, let's just jump in a plane and fly. You have to actually be able to have some not only skills as a pilot, you got to have instinct and intuition to be able to fly it's almost got to be an extension of your of your your body right they're landing in in seas that are you know the carriers are this isn't like landing on a regular landing strip right the seas are up and down and they're crazy and they're just going wham and hitting that thing on the deck and praying to God that they, you know, that they hit it right. And I got to tell you, and just so in case he's, he's listening, he knows, he knows what I'm talking about. You gotta be cocky to be a carrier pilot. That's what I'm saying right now. Like, like, you know, watching in my experiences, like, movies you know because they don't see much of it elsewhere like top gun top gun maverick was even more fun to watch the the maneuvering that they can do and then to look at how they map it out on a two-d screen I don't get it. My brain doesn't work that way. How do you like when you're driving a car, you're on the ground. So I feel like you're in a two D kind of situation. You're moving forward or backward or left and right. You're not moving up and down. That's the standard. But in a plane, you got a whole other dimension to deal with. And how do they communicate that with all these planes in one small area? How do they direct them so that they don't all run into each other all the time? That's what that other movie was about. I wish I could remember the name of it. Well, you know, you've got advanced avionics, too. So, I mean, you're looking at... It's probably... You're not just... I don't like the visual flying part of it. I want to watch the instruments when I'm flying, whether I'm doing a visual flying... in visual flying or instrument, I like watching the instruments because then I could see exactly where I was and such. And I, I, I am you know, it's been a while since I've been up in a plane and, and such, but because I didn't want to get knocked out of the sky when I was running for governor, which would have been really easy. And I didn't want everybody, you know, worried about me. So I just grounded myself. I'm like, I'm not, I'm not going up in a plane unless, unless not a small one. It's too easy to, to rip that thing right out of the sky. And especially somebody who is not a super, who's not, who's not an experienced pilot. You know, you've got to fly at almost every to be a great pilot. You got to fly all the time. You got to fly a lot. You got to fly all the time. The skills are frangible. If you it's not like riding a bike. You know, if you get away from that, that plane for a little while, it's like a new day. You get into it. Go. Oh, my gosh. You know, but at any rate. So the American Eagle traveling from Kansas crashes in D.C. Chiefs Eagles. It was laying their runway. Thirty three. A well-known satanic occult number. Meanwhile, the Eagles fall. put out a weird tweet with a helicopter three days ago and espn puts out an article telling us how super safe the super bowl will be next weekend more on the stay frosty side of this but seriously was this a foreshadowing and I believe that this happened if you add the the digits up the time stamp it adds up to so I I'm I'm blowing the whistle on this is I'm calling I'm calling I'm calling not believing it, not even remotely believing this. I shared that. I shared that and I sent it to you because I knew you would find meaning in it. But, you know, there are people who will find something like that in everything. And it's like, you know, sometimes a plane crash is just a plane crash. Right. So you have to, again, be careful. Not all the seven teams are communications. Right. This is a plane. So you're managing this access, you're managing this access, and you're managing this access. So what's really funny is that you want to speed a plane up, you tip the nose down. It's not the throttle. It's the nose. It's the position of the nose that increases your speed and such. I just think it's really interesting. In fact, we bought a simulator not too long ago just because I haven't played with it yet, but we have one. But we have one because you have to, right? When I get real serious, I'm going to be on that stupid simulator for months before I even walk on the uh, airport grounds. So morning, Sean, how you doing? I'm good. How are you guys? I see that the, um, helicopter crash with the airplane last night. And, um, I think it's, uh, I think it's very suspicious in my opinion. And, uh, just based on looking at the tower radar, It literally shows that the airplane that was coming in from Wichita, Kansas, was given clearance to land. And the military chopper that left the CIA location turns in exact same time as a plane descending and turning into the runway. And I've talked to a lot of pilots just since nine o'clock last night. Buzz Aldrin was one of them. and we both came to the same consensus that this was not a pilot error. What a lot of people don't understand is these military helicopters that are flying around DC, they're actually part of a kind of like an Iron Dome shield. Their job is to stop any territorial aggression from the air or from the ground. If they've gotten word that there might have been a terrorist or biological event or chemical event, potentially something disastrous, then their job is to take that out. So we got a lot of questions as to where this is going, guys, is that we've got a lot of questions. Are you suggesting then that this could have been a kamikaze situation where military determined they needed to sacrifice? That's what it looks like to me. Well, that's a different direction than I was going at, but that's a good thing to know. I'm glad you brought that up. But because once again, we have to just keep asking questions because, you know, for a fact that they're not going to say, OK, boys and girls, this is what we did yesterday. And they're not going to tell you that. They're not going to come right out and say it. And by the way, we've got the bad guys kind of, sort of, but actually not. They're somewhere on a plane with a bunch of gold over to another country that we want to start a war with. I mean, I'm being facetious about this, but you get it. You get the picture. Well, this is interesting, too, because Trump has been really transparent, if you want to use that term, since he was inaugurated this last time. And he's hinting. And justly so, he wouldn't have all the answers immediately. He did provide an answer to the other drone scenario. Whether that's an accurate answer or not, he provided an answer through his press secretary regarding the New Jersey drones. Will he provide a truthful and honest answer to this scenario when he has that information? Or will he continue to play a narrative game in the media and make us all second-guess him? As well as... Say again? Depends what the goal is. Yeah. Yeah. He'll protect the country one way or another. And some of the country... ongoing then you really you can't really tip your hand uh so the enemy knows exactly what you're doing so that's the case and uh I can understand that but uh when this is all over they're going to have to give account in the detail as to every little bit of what has transpired during this whole time. So I'm hoping that Trump will give us the details afterwards if that's the case, but they obviously know something. They obviously know that there's reconnaissance going on, right? I mean, I have my drone pilot license and I can fly my drone commercially. So I know when you're applying for, you go into certain areas, for example, like DC is literally a no fly zone. Okay. So you can't fly your airplane. You can't play your drones. If you do what happens, they send up and up to the scene. Um, and they, they tell you to either, you know, take your plane and land it somewhere, or you got cops coming to you to turn you to, you know, turn your plane around. Right. So, um, it just, I think that's really interesting because, you know, um, Biden really couldn't give account for anything. It's almost like he doesn't know what's going on. Like the left hand doesn't know what the right hand is doing. Yeah, the other thing I think is interesting here is that it's really, what's the word? I don't know. My brain is still not working a hundred percent since I'm recovering from this respiratory thing. But so it just so happens that the helicopter ran into the plane so that the crash happens over a river instead of over a civilian area. So that the destruction and if there are passengers, the death, occurs only between those two crafts and not over other civilian territory. Well, it seems like to me that that military helicopter had been flying in a straight line for quite some time. The transponder was on. We know this. We know the transponder of the airplane was on. We know that he was in communication with Talworth. just like the plane was. There would have been enough time for the chopper to be able to avoid the airplane. It could have just slowed down and stopped and hovered and allowed the airplane to come in first, right? And then proceed on what it's doing. So when I spoke with a lot of different pilots, they kept saying, no, this was not a pilot error. There was given an ample amount of time And just before the impact happened, the Taurus is telling the chopper pilot, Hey, do you see the lights on the plane? And then about ten, fifteen or thirty seconds later, it all looks dark. So it seems to me this was a very deliberate act based on what a lot of other pilots are telling me. And from my experience as a drone pilot, you can't make this stuff up. I mean, this is something out of a Tom Clancy novel, you know? Yeah. And what's really cool is seeing how many people are actually asking questions. We've really grown up in the last four to eight years. asking lots of questions that need to be asked to get the answers. That's really encouraging. Yes. I've seen that with some other events too, but this one is another fine example of that where sometimes the plane crash is just a plane crash and it's just a horrible circumstance. But immediately, the immediate response from a lot of people was, huh, was this just a regular plane crash or else? Hmm. You know, they put their detective hats on and then they put their aluminum foil on top of that. What are we going to find out when we look into this? And sometimes I think we're tested. This is a great test of that, but. So then, okay, I'm running with the theory that the Black Hawk helicopter was there to protect the people from some kind of incident. Okay. who was on the plane or what was on the plane, then becomes the question, when did they find out about it? What was the communication system like when they were determining that this was such a deadly threat that they had to go about shutting it down? I mean, why didn't they shoot it out of the sky with a military plane? So why did they go about it in this way? Were they trying to hide it from the people? And then that asks the question, why were they trying to hide it from the people? There's a lot more questions that you can go down if you explore that path. And of course, the people like us, then we want to know what the answer is, regardless of whether it's good for us not to know. Here's another question. What was the plane carrying if they saw a chemical, biological, or some sort of other threat? Why did they take it down there? Wouldn't they have been tracking that beforehand and have taken that down not right next to the airport in the Potomac River? There's another question that I have on that. I would think that they would have kind of had that intel ahead of time. But I don't know, you know, but it's a question that I think all questions should be asked. And no matter what they are, I think that's the lesson that we've learned over eight years is ask every question that comes to mind. Ask them all. And learn that critical thinking skill to be able to ask good questions. I've got a question for you, Sean. Are you there? I'm ready. Are you ready? Can you turn your camera on or are you like having your coffee and sitting back and enjoying your day? Yeah, I can turn my camera on. Okay, so I got a question for you. And if you don't want to answer it, you don't have to answer it, but I got to ask anyway, okay? You know Buzz Aldrin, right? And you were talking to him. Yeah. Yes. Did they go to the moon or not? No, no. There was a Stanley Kubrick film that was put together in the efforts to uh tried to well we know what was going on with the cold war between united states and russia right after in the fifties and uh it was interesting though because um seeing the um declassified uh cia files and we could actually see uh how they staged this huge production and how they kept it very you know tight-lipped tight-rolled and we got Buzz Aldrin, who years later, you know, is coming out and saying, well, if we ever go to the moon, let me know. I saw him say that in a clip when they asked him and they said, you know, have you been, how has it landed the moon? And he looked at him and he goes, we never went to the moon. And I thought it was kind of funny. So I had to ask that. What's your thought about this? Because I have a theory that we were actually to the moon potentially before that. And they actually, the truth about the moon landings were actually, have actually been hidden from us. It wasn't what they showed. But I think we've actually been there. But I don't think it was the Apollo landings. And I believe we were probably there before the Apollo landings. So how, how's that for throwing a wrench into this? Um, you know, that is one theory that is definitely worth exploring. Um, what I am hoping is that, uh, Trump will release all of the CIA files on, uh, on that as well as, you know, the Martin Luther King and, and, um, John F. Kennedy and everything else. But I got to tell you, if there is something on the moon, for example, another space alien race or whatever, I'm interested. But I still believe that we have never been to the moon. We might have had a drone or like a rover of some kind or something like this. But I really don't. Just based on the technology that they had at the time, they were trying to make it look as if they were on the moon. There was a lot of mistakes they've made. For number one, when the astronaut that walked off with the lander onto the moon for the first time, there was already a camera positioned about four yards away. Where did that camera come from? Who's operating that camera? It's not attached to the lander, obviously. I actually got in trouble in fifth grade for asking that question to my history teacher. Because I'm always the kind of guy that thinks outside the box. I guess I just always assumed it was just attached, but that doesn't make any sense, does it? No, it makes no sense. I think that's really funny, too. So there's a couple of images that I'm going to try to pull up here that make, you know, but, you know, they can fake anything. You know, they can fake all kinds of pictures. And you would never, unless you're really good or you're doing some advanced, and I mean advanced analysis on the photos, you're in even then they've got so good on you just some of these things you really need to seriously question I'm looking for there are pictures that show Dark objects, it's not where they normally show pictures of. You've got to be a little bit of a nerd to search this thing out and look for them. And I'm not saying that any of it's true or not, but they're questions that we should ask. But, you know, you've got all kinds of questions, the Van Allen Belt, all of that sort of thing, when you get into space travel and do we have something that can actually navigate through that without turning into space trash within thirty seconds. You know, that's another thing. I, I know that we do have, um, anti-gravitational crafts, the TR three B's Astros and the mantra. Um, I do know that the military, I should say, um, the central intelligence agency with, um, um, section one, um, they, they do, uh, S S one S two and S three, um, have all been a big part of it. DARPA was a part of this. or Lockheed Martin Skunk Works is a part of it as well. But I actually do have the footage of a TR-TB Astra in operation over in Afghanistan and Iraq both. And they do have high-powered weapons systems aboard their craft and that allows them to be able to exactly. So all the triangular ones are Man made these are our our crafts. Anyway, we do know that China and Russia both have their their type of craft as well, so If there was ever going to be an actual war Between the countries. I don't think it's going to be the conventional weapons first. I think it's going to be Using the anti-gravity shill across. I think we've actually seen some of the fighting already and um just not in the way that we think um but we've definitely seen some videos or some pictures out there um and all these crafts uh coming into contact with one another but um that's why a lot of people come up with these um you know different theories of alien races and stuff but um One of the things I can tell you is that from my experience working in the domes is really this. Aliens do not exist. They are rather demonic. They're demonic beings, okay? But they have a vast knowledge of everything, technology, medicine, things that are so far advanced, right? But we're not the only civilization that they've given us information to. They've been given it to several civilizations long before us. We're just repeating history as to what's happening. So what makes the next question is, this was a theory that kind of came across my mind last night before I went to sleep. And I thought, what if this accident was deliberate? so they can bring about the anti-gravitational crafts for commercial jet lines. So they can say this is far safer than the old technology. So, you know, the STB says, hey, you know, the jet liners are redundant systems and they're coming out with this new anti-gravitational type crafts for, you know, for commercial purposes. I, that could be, that's one theory that I have. I could be wrong, but, uh, but I definitely do want to know, um, when and when and if Trump is going to declassify the anti-gravitational crafts and, uh, let us know about them, you know, and, um, uh, what their, I guess, maybe not, not their, all their plans, obviously, but, um, are they going to make this, uh, public, you know, are they going to come out and say, okay, we're, we're working to deal with Boeing or we're working to deal with the black heart of like, um, uh, like Raytheon or some other company to develop these for commercial jetline purposes. You know, um, we've already seen, uh, some, some more for private use, um, over in, um, uh, you know, uh, Dubai. So we, The question now is really, I think a lot of stuff that's been going on, I think it's just been kind of like you can't just come out to a primitive species and say, hey, guess what I've got, right? Or, hey, here's this, right? And just throw it all on our laps because our brain cannot absorb all that information all at once. So if I want to share some modern a revolution in technology with somebody I'm going to give them like little chrome pieces right give them little chrome pieces and over time they start giving bigger pieces and then after a while people will then become conditioned to accept uh the technology change you know It's kind of like when they first came out with cell phones, you know, they were this really huge, big, bulky, you know, boxes. And you can't put them in your pocket, you know, you had to put it like in a backpack or something, but they were kind of awful. Or they were built right into your car, which had an antenna, and then you can connect it, you know, like wirelessly to a telephone line or something, but. Um, but they had to start out with more redundant systems and then just kind of start piecing in a little bit more of the technology over time. And then finally we got to the point where we are today. Um, I'm on my cell phone, uh, doing this live with you guys, you know, now, if you would have, if somebody went back in time, twenty five, thirty years ago said, this is what you're going to be doing twenty five, thirty years later in the future. My mind would be blown. I'd be like, where do I start? How do I start to begin to process this information? I would have been like, bring it. We've been watching the Jetsons here since, you know, since forever. So I honestly I would have been like cell phone. Oh, yeah, that's got to be possible. You know, we grew up watching it. But I would like to say to anybody who's holding back information, because as you said, the SR-Civic to Israel, we know that. um and uh uh and such and so but I would say fire hose us I would be the first one say fire hose me with information and let's just see how well I do because I'd want to know everything and how it works why it works and such you know I how many people want to raise their hand say go ahead Tell us everything and let's see what happens. The rest of you kids go get ice cream while we go and we dive into this stuff and figure out what's really going on. It's funny because there's this concept of we need to get the hose. You deserve the hose again, meaning a punishment. You're going to get the hose, meaning you're going to get hosed down because you're naughty. And here's Donna going, I want it. Bring it on. That is totally you. I noticed that we both laughed when he mentioned the cell phones. We laugh at that. And I'm like, well, I do remember. I remember computers becoming a thing. And I remember the rotary dial. And I remember when you had to get up and change the channel on the TV because mom and dad were too lazy to do it. We didn't have remote controls. So they send the kids to turn the channel and you had, you know, three channels, four if you were lucky. I remember those days and we laugh at it now. We laugh because, oh, we were so technology weak, you know. But look at where we are now. I'm open-minded to the idea that there's so much more technology than I know already existing. And that fact has shaped my perspective when I look at things like this. Like when you said, could it have been remote? Could the plane have been remote? And I was like, I never even would have thought of that. But if they could do it with a helicopter... and act like it's new. Maybe that's been around for a while. Maybe it is quite possible. Maybe that's what happened in nine. Maybe there wasn't anybody on that craft. I want to see the passenger list for this other plane, because I think we all want to dig into who is on that plane. Is it, is it a person that was the, the suicided you know who is who is killed because of who they are or what they were about to do was there somebody that was going to be testifying in congress or something that was on that plane or was it supposed to be just a bunch of civilians was there actually anybody on that plane And if not, how are they going to hide the people that were supposed to be on that plane? You know, those are more questions. But if there was like a biological attack planned, well, then you do something so that it's going to explode, but that it's also going to prevent more destruction. And could that have been planned in advance so that this could have, you could protect the public from not only the incident themselves, but also the, the knowledge of what the danger actually was until such a time as we're capable of handling it. Well, and there's a lot of things to ponder. There are a ton of things to ponder. You know, when we started looking at the information that, you know, I was publishing on Martin Luther King Jr., And the fact this week that he was definitely involved in some bad things. There's a lot of things that have come out about that. But I want to show you something I thought was amazing. This is the best shot that I can give it right now. We don't know if actually people get morphed into other people. We don't know. And if they change their identity to hide them or hide information or whatever, I'm not trying to be disrespectful for anyone. But what I am doing is questioning the validity of some of the narratives that have been given to us. Are we even talking about different people? Do you see what I'm saying? We've got to ask those questions and potentially... the answers might be more than what a lot of people can handle. But when you look at, I mean, just, I hate to say it, but this is actually a pretty good, pretty good comparison. When you look at, well, let's just look at a few pictures here. The facial structure here. I hate to say it, but I think it's, I'm not going to say that I'm going to, you know, I'm not betting the farm on it, but look at the, look at the similarities right there. I don't know the answer to it. Being more open-minded than ever before. I feel like I am. And maybe I'm still not enough open-minded. I don't know. Sometimes my mind runs in circles. Am I going too far with my imagination here? Or am I just being a critical thinker and it's a good exercise? I think we have to think outside the box if we want the truth. And I've always been one of those people that challenges authorities when they've made a mistake. I did that in second grade. That was the memory I have. He was mentioning fifth grade. I did it in second grade. And actually, I was a first grade age because I got moved up from kindergarten. Well, look at the Challenger astronauts. I'm sorry to interrupt you here. There's a little bit of lag that we always have talking back and forth live here. It's not intentional. We're not trying to step on each other by any means. But look at the Challenger astronauts. They haven't even changed their freaking names yet. When you look at what happened and the people, it's kind of crazy. But once again, I think we need to challenge what we think happened and challenge reality because I don't think that things are as they appear at all. Not even at all. Now check this out. I'll see if I can pull this thing up a minute. Let me see if I can pull this one up so you can see a larger... picture of this and then like you know one of my first thoughts and this is where our country is is so far ahead of where we were before one of my first thoughts when I saw this plane crash excuse me making so much of an impact on the news cycle was what else should we be looking at? What else is going on? Well, today, Kash Patel is supposed to be getting interviewed. And I think RFK Jr. is also supposed to be at a hearing again today. So are they trying to distract from those things so people are focused on something else? I don't think they're going to crash a plane just so they can hide a smaller story from the public. But I think they use stories like this to camouflage other things that we would be spending our time on. Absolutely. Well, look here. Here we've got the Challenger astronauts, and they didn't even seem to bother to change their freaking names. Francis Richard Scobie, he's Richard Scobie, and he's the CEO of Cows and Trees. We've got Christine McAuliffe, Christy McAuliffe, Kristen McAuliffe, and Sharon McAuliffe. Let's see. McAuliffe is a Syracuse law professor. We've got Judy Resnick and there's a Judith Resnick as a Yale law professor. Ronald McNair and Carol McNair and Ellison and Claude. Um, on a Zuku, I don't know how to say his name. And, uh, you know, you look at this and you, Michael J. Smith and you got Michael J. Smith, professor of merit of emeritus of a university of, of, uh, uh, let's see. Can't read it good, but you know what I mean? It's like, it just, it's just odd. So when I look at the Martin Luther King jr. Stuff, I was like, wait, wait, whoa, whoa, wait a minute. I don't know if it is. I don't want to disrespect anybody and say anything. But, you know, I don't want to be stupid either and just float around in the world and not ask those questions. I mean, that doesn't make any sense. How do you wrap your mind around it? You're like, were they astronauts that didn't crash? Or were they actors that weren't astronauts to begin with? Were they just you know, paid to act a role. And then they went on with their lives. I mean, when somebody meets them and they say, Hey, weren't you on that? What do they answer? Or do people want to connect the dots? I mean, I kind of think that that's probably more the case, that people are not connecting the dots, which is wild and weird all at the same time. Well, Karen, I don't know if you want to go back to sleep or not, but I see Jonathan backstage. And I got to tell you, I love Jonathan. I totally love Jonathan Cagan. He is amazing. one of my all-time favorite people of all times in every category. You know, once in a while he'll send me, he'll send me a video of him playing piano where he's, he's just decompressing at the end of the night and he's great at it, but he's absolutely fantastic at research. And we haven't, we haven't talked in a while. So I, I contacted him and I said, I think we need to do an update here. I need a, I need to have a Jonathan Kegel information fix because he's There isn't anyone that is, is outstanding and can have so much information in his brain. It's incredible. Vicki Davis is another one, but they go in different directions. You know, she does the law. Jonathan is just like, who's who in the zoo. And, you know, if they broke the law, let's take them all down. And I, and I kind of like that, you know, she's processed, he's individuals and he names names and, and I love that. So ready to go back to bed and I'll bring Jonathan on. Well, I'm sitting in bed right now, actually. I'm not at the kitchen table at all, but I got a bunch of paperwork sitting out in front of me and I'm not going back to bed. I'm too awake now. Well, give me a couple of minutes here and I'm going to play the intro so that I got a nice little break here for reference. And then we'll bring Jonathan on and then let him talk for a bit, okay? Sure. All right. I'll be back in about thirty seconds. Good morning. Welcome to Brandenburg News Network. I'm Donna Brandenburg, and it is the third day of January, twenty twenty five. And welcome to our show with. Hands down, my favorite researcher, Jonathan Cagle, how are you doing this morning, Jonathan? Can you hear us? I don't know if you can hear us. Hang on a minute. Let's see, we're muted, we're unmuted and we'll get through the technical difficulties here. I think you're still muted. Can you hear us? Yeah, it keeps going back and forth between muting and unmuting me like indiscriminately. I'm sorry. No, no worries. So I'm really glad that you're here today. And what are we going to talk about today? We always get started on this and what to do in your world and set. Well, it's up to you, Donna. I mean, I think that... You had mentioned to me that there are a couple of things of interest that we had recently put out that were of especially high interest for you. And so, I mean, it seems like everything's happening all at once, so we can go in whatever direction you want to go. Well, give me a, you take the lead and let's go, let's go in one direction. Karen, I'm going to kick you backstage just for a minute and then I can bring you back in in a few minutes so that everybody can see Jonathan for a few minutes. Okay. Or I can jump off if you want. I just stay backstage if you'd like and I'll bring you if you want. Okay, there we go. So which direction you want to go in, Jonathan? I mean, we talked about several different things. And I mean, I've got a lot of questions right now. There are so many people involved in the economic subversion of the United States. And I think that this is one of those, this is really your specialty is to connect the people that are behind corporations and stuff. And I actually have a current situation that I'm working on right now that I want to go into with you later, not now. I mean, I gave you a little bit of a crumb there on this, but it's going to lead back to, I'm pretty sure, very, very high level organized crime in finance and such, which I think that it's going to be fun to show you what I have as far as the information. And then we can kind of compare notes or if you want to jump on it and do a little I think this could really be a big deal. But more than that, we've got a lot going on within the appointments. Some questions I have within the appointments. You know, I'm still really, even though I like some of the things that J.D. Vance has said, I am absolutely, what the living hell on this. And Vicki Davis is the same way on it. But I'm hoping that President Trump follows his normal path which is putting people out there in order to draw attention to things. Like, I love Tom Holman. I love him a lot. I wish we had a thousand Tom Holmans out there that are just in there kicking ass and taking names because he's going to do that. But until we see all of these arrests, and I mean a lot of arrests, the policies aren't going to change anything. We have got to remove the criminals. So let's start working down something and show everybody who the criminals are. How's that? That sounds good. Per our last conversation, I mean, I think that there's a lot of merit to, you know, mafia involvement in things that have happened very recently within the last few months, as well as things that have happened in the last year or even two years, some of which, you know, for you and your situation, especially it's close to home. accidents, so to speak, that are designed to look that way that are catastrophes that we're pretty certain at this point, they're sabotage and terror attacks designed to, you know, nudge society in certain directions, as well as enrich those who wish or seek to maintain or grow their control over You know, America's economy, the global economy, supply chain, control of natural resources and lands. There's a lot of that going on, and it's mirrored in the socioeconomic private equity spaces. We've talked about this a lot, the global economy. consolidation if you will of so many companies that are designed to centralize control in the hands of a few really really really bad guys and I agree with you on the sentiment that the hope is President Trump is doing what he normally does and putting people in the spotlight to expose themselves. For your example, you named J.D. Vance, and I would say that there's a lot to that, and that the people around J.D. Vance, not only just for this administration, but throughout his political career, are very pertinent to that conversation. if America is to be saved, then it's almost a necessity that Trump needs to be doing exactly what we've known him to do in the past. For me, that person or one of those people is Larry Ellison of Oracle. Because of things that you and I talked about, you know, before we got on this show today about, you know, Lahaina and North Carolina and East Palestine and most recently the Los Angeles fire situation, which seemingly isolated events, but I think with a closer look people will start to understand that there's a method to all the madness and terrorism that's going on. Yeah, it seems to me like it's all about the land grabs and natural resources. But where people, I think, are not looking enough at is, say, like the DNR in Michigan. The DNR has four point six million acres and they're clear cutting. This is just one example on how they've actually commandeered our land. They're not supposed to be owning our land. This is supposed to be land that only that Americans own. But they just kind of bend the rules a little bit or they just write new rules and nobody's paying attention anyway. You know, you look at Benson in Michigan who violated campaign finance by announcing her governor's run on property, using her current position in her run. It's really amazing. The questions, though, that need to be asked are hard ones for people to come to terms with because we have, especially through the supply chains, We've come to rely on them and things staying the same. And what people don't do, human beings do not handle change well at all. Especially when they feel like it's being forced upon them, oftentimes against their will through terrorism. I know that when twenty twenty two was happening and we were right off the FTX, Robinhood Foundation Coinbase, stolen election, market manipulation, liquidation cascading of Bitcoin markets and leverage positions and FTX and so many people getting wiped out and the massive billions and billions of dollars of wealth transfer from basically largely retail investors into the hands of these same bad guys that we're going to be talking about. Follow that up with... seemingly every other day there was a fire at a food plant or some kind of agricultural center that develops and produces our food, or something tied to the supply chains that delivers that food to the dinner tables of tens of millions of Americans. And then you start to realize There's a lot of consistencies I'm seeing in the people who stand to benefit from everything that's happened over the last four years. Let's open the books. Let's look and see who is financially vested in these companies and the companies that would spring up and benefit the most on the back end through a new paradigm shift from this more traditional not just technocracy, Internet of Things kind of surveillance state, but, you know, basically who would benefit the most from the destruction of, you know, pre-technocratic societal norms that the good old days, so to speak, where we didn't have a computer in our hands at all times or cameras on us at all times and people being able to track our movements and know what we're doing, who we're with. and what have you, and when you look at those things, and you find consistencies between the people who, you know, got in on both sides, on the, you know, think about the FTX situation, for example. Who invested the earliest in FTX? And then on the back end, who invested or profited the most from FTX? the collapse of FTX and now have positioned themselves to, to benefit the most from the bankruptcy proceedings. Oh, shockingly enough, it's the same people on both sides. And that's when it becomes evident that there's a coordinated plot to steer, you know, millions of Americans, but not only Americans, but the global, um, economy and the, and the, um, the entire world against its will in a direction that It probably wouldn't go too voluntarily if given the choice. My UPS guys here delivering something. It was my birthday yesterday, so I have people probably like sending me shit. Yes, and happy birthday to you, Jonathan. I knew it was your birthday yesterday too, so happy birthday to you. You know what? Dog doesn't bite, I promise. She doesn't. She doesn't bite. Joy. I'm sorry about that, buddy. That's okay. Yeah, she is. Jonathan's birthday package delivery. This comes from some dude named Seth Keschel. He sounds like an asshole. I'm just kidding, Seth. His only friend could say Appreciate it, Seth. But yeah, and for your situation specifically, I know the moment that we got on the trains conversation, it was just like light bulbs started going off in my brain because of what we had found tied to to East Palestine. And that's kind of how we got into the, you know, the FEMA situation and the LA fire situation. But before either of those, in between those and East Palestine, we have the highness. So East Palestine was when I kind of realized that they were they were burning down the plants, they were derailing trains and supply chains and sabotaging. disaster relief, because when you look at that situation, you think about, okay, not only did the train derail, not only did everything have to go wrong for the train to jump off the tracks, the train was carrying the most toxic element they could possibly take. In its manifest, it was transporting vinyl chloride. Vinyl chloride is a known extremely toxic chemical that had been valued or measured in parts per million of a toxic legal limit of a hundred ppm, which atmospherically that is a very low number. That is a substance that is extremely, extremely carcinogenic. toxic and it was long known that the worst thing that you could do is burn it because it releases nocious chemicals and carcinogens into the upper atmosphere well not only did you know east palestine involve basically a water tributary that con connects you know high river mississippi river tennessee river all the way down to the gulf but up into you know, Lake Michigan and on into the Great Lakes. It was basically ground zero of the biggest waterway artery system in the epicenter of it in the country, freshwater-wise. And then not only that, the response was delayed like they didn't even give a shit, pardon my French, and then They set it on fire. They did literally all of the worst possible things that you could potentially do to address a situation like that. And then what I noticed that was odd, when I was on Twitter, people say that social media can't be useful for anything, but it can be extremely useful. It can... be a wonderfully useful unmasking tool and help you identify who's who on the platform. And one of the things that I did is I went into a space as I often do, to discuss riffraff and bullshit that we found in the players involved. And, you know, there was a space that was talking about East Palestine. And At that time, I don't know of many people that had looked further into it and the people involved in the situation than myself and the people that we were working with. And I'll never forget, and I remember specifically the people that were in that space with me whom I had assumed at that time were just... regular old right-wing fellow conservatives, so to speak. This was back when I still believed in, like, the Easter Bunny and Democrats and Republicans and things like that in Santa Claus. some I'll never forget it like too seemingly like it was always weird to me these two people uh who most of your audience would probably know immediately I'll I'll leave their uh names out of it for the time being but they know I'm talking about them um but your audience would know who they are immediately and they snapped at me really fast like for being a crazy conspiracy theorist skeptic right or cynical Yeah, and not in a sense where it's like, oh, there goes Johnny Schizophrenic over there, like having one of his, like he's up to his old, you know, he's in a, you know. episode again you know it wasn't like that it was it was very angry it was like how dare you even propose this I was like that's a really organic natural human response given the given the circumstances of the information that I'm sharing but feel free to look at this information I'm not just casting aspersions or speculating on all of this like here here it is here's literally all the information and what's the old age old paradigm follow the money believe it or not it always seems to work um and you follow the money and you follow the the personnel and the boards of directors and the people that make these decisions that have to be positioned like chess pieces on a board um just prior to certain catastrophes to make them even possible or even plausible. And going back to vinyl chloride, vinyl chloride had been established with a legal toxicity level, atmospheric concentration of a hundred parts per million. Well, for the first time in seventeen years, two weeks prior to East Palestine, The CDC quietly just changed that from a hundred parts per million to a hundred thousand parts per million. So that's three orders of magnitude, three standard deviations, which It's a completely different chemical at that point if you define toxicity by the allowable legal levels. And that's how we typically do things for carcinogens and noxious gases and things like that. Well, okay. That's a really big coincidence. But then you look further and you realize that five days prior to East Palestine... The residents were getting emails instructing them to go to their fire department and get registered and set up with this platform called MyID. What is MyID? It's a biometric data surveillance tool for emergency response. It basically is a public health quote unquote emergency surveillance tool and they were planning fully on tracking the exposure levels within individuals within East Palestine and seeing the changes and being able to compare that to prior uh to exposure to post and and whether that be they wanted to know who was who and who was toxic so that they could go after them and potentially um convince them that they either needed to subscribe to this my id platform or shut up anybody who got too wise to what was going on and uh make that problem you know permanently disappear um and I was like wow that's um Yeah, fool me once, you're probably a jerk. Fool me twice, like, this is fucked up. So it's two extremely circumstantial but very suspicious occurrences. Well, then you add about seventy-five or eighty different additional facts in the fallout. um regarding east palestine it becomes clear by about the I don't know first one for me but like for any reasonable person you'd look at it and you'd say okay this this okay this is sabotage this is a terror attack what is what is happening who's in who's involved with this and that's that's really where we started looking and that's how we kind of got into lahaina and um started immediately exposing these disasters that are not so natural. Are they all connected? Was Lahaina and are the people for Lahaina and Palestine all connected? I'm sure they are. We do know the people of the Lahaina situation and the FEMA North Carolina situation and the Los Angeles fires situation. Those people are connected. And it wouldn't be... It's difficult for us to go back, you know, and make the eventual connections between all of the aforementioned and East Palestine as well. So one of the things that really got me was that the couplers, because I went in and because we own a rail facility and I looked at the couplers. And the couplers that they were showing on the rail cars there was my first clue was they were couplers that would not be on the tracks right now, which made me ask a lot more questions of was in the manifest was you would never you would never have materials that close to each other. So to see that, my question is, is how much of this was actually real or was it stage two? Now that we're looking at it, I mean, sure, I'm going to be the bad guy for saying it, but I really want to know, did this actually happen as they said it did? Or was it a completely different scenario? I'm not saying that nothing happened, but what I'm saying is, was the whole thing kind of staged? Because why would they have had None of this makes any sense. So we have to question it. They would have had those cars on the rail with a couple of cars. Ridiculous. Absolutely. I think I remember seeing one of the... There was somebody a year and a half, two years ago that was actually caught trying to place one of those... I don't think this was a coupler. I think this was basically one of those, I don't know what it's called. You would probably know better than I do. But it basically just sits right on top of one of the rails and it just basically causes, it's like a fucking off ramp for one of the wheels if you were going to derail a train. A switch, maybe. Is that what you're saying? Like a switch? It's a piece of metal that they found in this guy's possession. They caught him, and he's an ADL. He's an ADL executive. I don't know. His name escapes me when we take a break. I'll grab that name for you so that your viewers can know who I'm talking about. But yeah, they've caught people trying to do this, and We know their names, and we know the entities that they're tied to. But, yeah, it's clear that if you look at the big picture, okay, well, who would benefit most from East Palestine? Well, people that would say, okay, all of our supply chains and rail lines, they're antiquated. We need to update everything so that we can have better oversight and... data sharing so that we can have everything more fully integrated well people who want to subject you to a surveillance state would benefit tremendously from that which companies are you know in the rail lines game or in the trains game that really want to integrate fully into this internet of things um biometric surveillance state that they want to create. Well, two of interest, especially as it relates to East Palestine, are Wabtec and Nexiot. And then you have Core Bromps as well. And Wabtec and Nexiot have been in the game for a long time. They want to build all new... international rail lines that not only service the united states but service the world at large and the beautiful thing about the internet of things is that if you control access to the data of all supply chains it's like controlling access to finite natural resources you can turn off or turn on somebody's access to the to the resources that are provided through those lines. And so, um, Donna Brandenburg gets too mouthy on her show one day because she had a pesky guest like myself on, on there. And they were talking about a bunch of our riffraff. We could just start, you know, arbitrarily decide, well, Donna doesn't get water anymore. She doesn't get, you know, these natural resources, wheat, barley, whatever, you know, to feed her family or feed her horses or anything. So it's, um, It's one of those things and we're seeing it with, terrifyingly enough, what's going on in Palestine and Syria and Jordan and everything is a microcosm of the larger uh picture that they want to create so to speak there's a guy by the name of marksell who's the chairman uh or I'm sorry the general counsel of republicans overseas his handle mark m-a-r-c-z-e-l-l he's the general counsel of republicans overseas He works for a guy by the name of BASH, I think, who's the chairman of that organization, who's also the former chairman of the Jewish Federations of Southern Arizona. He was a Republican National Committee man for Arizona, one of the two, up until, I think, this year. But he makes a post about how they had just acquired control of land that is, and assets that are responsible for supplying thirty percent of Syria's water and forty percent of Jordan's water. And he makes a comment saying, you know, water is the name of the game in the Middle East and what's important to understand is that maybe our having these assets will force Syrians and Jordanians to behave well. And it was one of the most vile comments that I've ever read. It's top two or top three for the most vile things I've ever seen that somebody said, who's supposedly on our side, that said that unironically. And I'm like, how fucking dare you? Who do you think you fucking are? You are a human being. You don't have the authority nor the right to arbitrate who gets access to fucking water, you ghoul. And I see this so many times. I've seen so many posts. And since Arizona in the Southwestern United States, you know, water is the name of the game in that area too. And with, you know, me getting started in this, you know, investigative research and intelligence game being the Arizona elections, like this was just a projection of what they want at large and what I've seen them doing Arizona and I'll never forget like right after they stole the election in twenty twenty-two from Cary Lake the the attorneys for the side that benefited from the steal and their loyal mouthpieces on Twitter were talking about you election denier conspiracy theorists need to move on you're causing us to like put key things off there's there's important things that need to be done and like like what Like, you know, contractual water rights. I was like, hey, tell you what, why don't you go fuck yourself? Because if I see any contractual coercion from you or Mark Elias or any of you faggots, okay, so I'll just say it. You can edit this out. I can't because it's live. It's gonna go over YouTube. So be careful so I don't get canceled. All right. And take two and action. All right. So that does not censor but some of the other ones do. And so we got to be a little careful what we say. This is the one time you Oh, man. Okay. Sorry about that everybody in the audience and YouTube. But Yeah, I mean, it was clear they were stealing elections so that they could fraudulently gain insider control of contractual, supposed ownership rights and royalties over finite natural resources that are life-sustaining resources in not only the United States, but it's happening all over the world. And I think it's vile. And I think anybody who would ever say, all right, so-and-so group of people isn't going along with our agenda, so let's cut the water off. That person is the enemy of mankind, let alone my enemy. And now I'm going to do everything I can to destroy them because there is no person that does or should have the right to arbitrate people's access to human life and it's vile and I hope that people find them like in real life and beat their ass like I literally hope that happens because anybody who says that like if somebody told me that they were going to cut my family's access to to water or oxygen or whatever like and basically long story short telling me they were going to kill them like we wouldn't be friends and I would probably go after them. And that's what this guy is doing. And that's what these coordinated sabotage terrorist attacks are largely about is basically smaller, gradual movements of the populace against its will towards centralizing control of those assets and those life-sustaining natural resources in the hands of people who are the worst people in the world. And that's not something I'm okay with. I'm not okay with their IoT technocracy. I'm not okay with JD Vance's proximity to a lot of the people the palantir world and the founders fund world and the hvc world that are right there and in the thick of it thickest thieves with those same ghouls I'm not okay with uh larry summers and jeannie oil and santander and you know glenn hogan uh hodgen hutchins at silver lake and these people that are the kid traffickers also dick you know arbitrating to me what appropriate decorum is on social media, what my allowable access to water or power or carbon, like carbon foot ground. I'm not okay with having that conversation, especially not with the people that have no place. Nobody really has the place to... you know, dictate those terms to me to begin with, but especially not the people that harm children, steal elections, and engage in terrorism to acquire all the the wealth and resources that they've acquired over the years. So that's kind of how it's taken us prisoner just through deprivation of rights as well as materials. But they've done it before. I mean, that's what they did. The Bolsheviks did it. And, you know, by by taking out ten million, I think there's more than that. But that's what they talk about. Ten million people. It was the farmers. And they did it to the Native Americans with the Transcontinental Railroad. And just so everybody knows, I'm going to make a good disclaimer here. None of us are against any groups of people. I'm not against any group of people. I'm not against people of different countries. I'm not against... um you know I've got a lot of friends who who are gay and lesbian we're not against groups of people at all we're against the institutions that say they represent them but don't they're all infiltrated it's just like the republican democrat party and I'm glad you said it because it is it is the uniparty and it's very very difficult to make that jump in realizing for a lot of people that the game has changed. What you think you believe in doesn't exist any more than, you know, any more than any fantasy character. They're taking you hostage by making you believe in an ideal that you believe in, that you think is right. But that ideal is being represented by criminals. So they're just using it for, you know, to to take advantage of a human being's trust. Human beings in their core we all have flaws I get it but if you saw somebody that was was hurting you would stop immediately and go help them no matter who they are that's what a human being does when we see something wrong we're going to jump in the ice water we're going to jump into something and we're going to help no matter who it is or what label they have we only see human beings The problem is, is that you get into the into the technocracy, as you called it, it's a good word, the technocracy, as well as all of the politicians in the different the different countries or ideas of countries. I don't even believe that countries exist per se anymore. I really don't. I think that there's they we. We should have smaller countries. We should have local governance. But the way it's set up right now, which I believe President Trump is addressing and fighting, is that we have trade zones and proxy countries. Like Ukraine isn't even a country. It's a proxy of the CIA. There's no debating that. and who they put in place to run it, to be able to run drugs and all that other sort of thing through there. So we're going to have to start thinking differently about those institutions that we believe in and go back to the fact that we stand with the people. So whatever terms are used here, they're not derogatory in any way, shape or form towards people, but they may be for the governments. Yeah, sorry for saying. That's okay. That's not the claimer there. But that's the intention. So, you know, it's not enough of the intentions. When we talk about going after people, I'm like, we're not talking about grab your torches and pitchforks. We're talking about going out there and through lawfare, through actually the law or for defense of our families, we absolutely have that right to defend ourselves. We have the obligation to do so. The obligation. It's our duty. Yeah. Yeah. Let's get into specifics here. Can you have some specifics that we can lay some individuals out that need to be brought forward? Because that's my favorite part. Yeah. So for East Palestine, and then I'll briefly jump from East Palestine to North Carolina and then over to... Most recently, Los Angeles. But with East Palestine, the private equity firm of highest interest as far as the sabotage and the toxic spill is... a private equity firm that is a latin phrase for what next and it's uh the letters qvi uh d so like covid tvm and all seven letters together is a latin phrase that means what next um the chairman is barack alisi uh the chief um researcher is max raskin and then you have a co-founder executive named nina murphy they are hugely invested in prudential insurance in terminix in wab tech and xeod that I had mentioned and the timing of the investments that they had was extremely suspicious and the sizings and When you look at a situation like very recently, like in Los Angeles with the fires and people losing their homes and their belongings and their keepsakes that they've had that are priceless. And then you go and you find out, just through a little cursory digging, oh. State Farm conveniently canceled the same number of homeowners policies six months, seven months prior to the Los Angeles fires. Why would they do that? Who told them to do that? And then you realize that the people that told them to do that are tasked with oversight of emergency response in Los Angeles today and are tasked with oversight of mitigating the fallout, if you will, and calling the shots and deciding who gets access to what resources. And that's when you start to realize that they do this time and time again. They set up the environment in which they can have insert disaster operation or some kind of attack that's designed to look like a natural disaster. And prior to that disaster happening, They've already put the people in place to botch the response, to make it look like an accident or incompetence. And that's one of their favorite things to do is hide malice behind a guise of you're just stupid and bad at your job. No, you're not stupid and you're not bad at your job. You're a little terrorist and a traitor and murderer. Lahaina was no different. East Palestine was no different. FEMA in western North Carolina is no different. And the Los Angeles fire situation will be no different. And there will be many others that will be found to be have been no different. Many that we probably go back and look at through history. Hurricane Katrina. I'd love to reevaluate that situation, but I do remember that FEMA took five days to get water to the Superdome in North Carolina. There's no excuse for that. Yeah. In, you know, the modern era, like if we were in colonial times or like, you know, if I'm if I'm imagining like the pilgrims walking around you know and like john smith and you know the native americans they'd have been able to get water to the superdome quicker than five days after a natural disaster what in the hell are we doing um you don't screw up things that badly unless you want to um You know, and people saw the video. I remember seeing just some surreal video of, you know, the fire spreading in Lahaina that people were taking from their smartphones. And we saw video of them being blocked from entering to go assist victims. And people within the attack zone... had been sequestered. They were not allowed to leave where the act of disaster and threat to their lives is happening. This isn't a response. This is murder. This is a genocide of people. It's illegal imprisonment is what it is. Yeah. I mean, it's like when you see things like that to your viewers, you should always ask, okay, who has the ability, who has the resources and who would stand to benefit. Because if I would benefit from like, take me for example, would I benefit from everybody on planet earth, you know, suddenly loses all their wealth to me. Yeah, I'd benefit from it. Okay, do I have the ability to create an environment where everybody else loses their wealth to me? Well, how would I do that? I'd have to control the entire global marketplace, like the global Dow Jones and the NASDAQ and the Hong Kong exchanges and the UK. I'd have to be able to... press the button that you know drains everybody's wealth from their bank accounts well I clearly don't have that ability um that'd be awesome um because you guys would all be going down but um I don't have that ability so it's not even plausible that I could commit that crime but when you look at our government and you look at um many of these so-called organizations and NGOs and government contractors, some of those are a little bit more resourceful than just everyday Americans like you and me. And you have Booz Allen Hamilton and Jim Potter and Henry Obering and I can't remember the other guy's name, but basically the guys who run Directed Energy for Booz Allen Hamilton at its Directed Energy Naval Hub in Dahlgren, Virginia. They've been doing and working on it and pioneering it for the better part of fifteen or twenty years at this point. It's old hat for us and they certainly have the ability. They certainly have the capability and we know the Directed Energy uh, platforms that they use to fire these, you know, whether it be laser based or be microwave based or radiation based, uh, weapons systems, um, based on the target they're trying to, to do whatever they want to do to it. Um, we know where these weapons systems are, are, are harnessed. They're harnessed on destroyers and the, in the pacific ocean they're attached to you know nozzles on retrofitted c-one thirties and eye in the sky jets that can attack from thirty thousand forty thousand feet in the air and certainly they have I mean like the harp system gets, I think the more, the most publicity of any of the, you know, disaster attack weapons, you know, through, through microwave harnessed, um, targeting systems but it's just one harp is just one of a number of of those weapons and we know that those systems are last I checked one's in new mexico one's in uh alaska if I remember correctly and that system allows us the ability to create earthquakes and you know volcanic eruptions through manipulating tectonic plates in the in the earth in the earth's crust I mean it's crazy what they have the ability to do and now I assume through what we know about weather modification and the ability to just manipulate convective available potential energy which is cape in the atmosphere that dictates the um the severity or the potential severity and the um ability and potential of a storm to produce long track um wedge tornadoes um I look at a lot of the tornado videos that you know I used to grow up loving to watch I'm and I'm now thinking like half the tornadoes that I'm watching that reed timmer for example not saying reed's involved I'm a big fan reed but like every time I watch one of his videos nowadays. It's like Storm of the Century Tornado. Oh, look at this multi-vortex tornado with eight vortexes that nobody's ever seen until the last three years. They started playing mad science lab in the tornado alley in the United States. I now believe that almost all of the weather is modified and you know when when western north carolina and asheville is happening with with fema and then right after that with tampa and central florida I mean you look at the weather paths that um you know we know in the gulf of mexico where hurricanes traditionally generate how they generate and the paths and the routes that they take through the gulf of mexico to make landfall in the southeastern United States. And we know the paths, the traditional routes of hurricanes in the Atlantic. And from somebody who's grown up in the Gulf of Mexico, this is old hat for us. Even the people who don't do atmospheric science and don't keep up with the NOAA and have the weather channel always on one of their favorite channels saved. Or watch tornado videos for six hours a day when they're growing up. Even normies know this stuff. And to see the path and see how they can steer storms to hit certain areas and to miss certain areas in the way that they steered Helene to make landfall right in the big bend so the the perfect attack vector if you were going to disrupt if you were going to disrupt port systems in the gulf of mexico and on the southeastern atlantic coast simultaneously with one storm you would take this exact attack vector it would give you the ability to to take out greenville and columbia and hashville and um parts of Tallahassee and, um, Savannah, Georgia. These are key areas, um, for our shipping lines, um, in the Gulf of Mexico and the Atlantic coast in the United States and their strongholds in the Southeastern United States. Um, and if you wanted to target the Appalachians, you would do everything exactly like that. Um, and then you would coordinate with, you know, International Brotherhood of Teamsters and the people at those supply chains that deliver to those ports. You might convince their workers to suddenly go on strike right before Hurricane Helene, which they did. You might tell Duke Energy that it just suddenly needs to lower its water levels five feet, which they did, and flooded out Asheville, North Carolina on top of the sabotage response by FEMA. And if you're FEMA, you might hire Deanne Criswell from Cadmus and realize that her and Bridget Herring over in Asheville, the asshole who is in charge of the Building Code Council there in Asheville, who basically is now going to be infamous for telling victims that they can't stay in these homes that these Amish volunteers built for you because these temporary homes aren't up to building code. That was Bridget Herring. Also, Bridget Herring contracted Cadmus Group on behalf of Western... North Carolina and Asheville and become county where the current FEMA administrator, Deanne Criswell, comes from. And they contracted together back in to do all this and cadmus is one of the larger big government contractors that gets a lot of money from our government to do a lot of defense stuff and be involved in the disaster response stuff and you look at who's behind those organizations and you know the founder gene fax and the chairman amy newton marasco and The CEO, Klein, and all the USAID operatives embedded it, and Booz Allen Hamilton operatives embedded it at Cadmus Group, and it's like you said with Ukraine. Ukraine is a CIA hub that the USAID uses as its little plaything. And it's the biggest money laundering operation, and in my opinion, the central hub of... kid trafficking and organ harvesting in the world. And why did the CIA see it as such a high value target that they felt the need in twenty fourteen to overthrow the leadership in Ukraine? Well, the same people behind NATO and Coca-Cola and Atlantic Council and Gini Oil and Burisma and Privat Bank, these same people who want to control our oil supply and our finite natural resources. And, you know, Ukraine is also famous for being the breadbasket of Eastern Europe. And so it's... barley wheat grain the stuff that makes bread for half the world so um the cia wanted a strategic stronghold to you know have their weapons systems with nato basically right back up back right up to russia's front door um to continue the further eastward expansion in uh In violation of the minx agreements from two thousand eighteen that they basically wiped their ass with. Because they wanted to create proxies and that's what they're trying to do with the American empire and I'm here to tell everybody the American empire is not for you and me it's for them. The more proxies that they have around the world the more governments that they overthrow to install liberal democracies. The more. proxy strongholds they have to engage in the same kind of bullshit that they're they're doing on american soil right now and what's craziest of all is you look at a situation like los angeles and karen bass and you find out who she's aligned with and you realize that she's part of a group called National Endowment for Democracy that is huge about funding liberal democracy and democratic causes all over the world. And you look at the roster of leadership and who's involved with it, and it's just a bunch of, insert a bunch of cuss words, people. And she's vice chairman. National Democratic, what is it? National Endowment for Democracy. And the chairman is Kenneth Wallach. Kenneth Wallach is the former legislative, I say former, he's the former legislative director for AIPAC. Oh, there we go. Might as well piss off. There you go. I do it regularly. I'm waiting for them to come after me. It's only a matter of time. If you ain't getting them coming after you, you ain't trying hard enough. That's right. This goes back to the governance and the The people who are actually pulling the strings, the puppet masters and such, I have no problem with the Jewish people. These people are anti-Semites. They're against their own people. They kill their own people. Go back to that previous screen. I don't mean to cut you off. I want to point out one person on that image. Not that guy, but the next screen that had the three people on it. One of them is of extremely high importance. Okay. That one right there. This guy? Yep. Who is he? That's Peter Roskam. He is one of the co-vice chairman alongside Karen Bass at National Endowment for Democracy. He's a partner at Sidley Austin, which is basically the legal counsel for Apollo Global Management, who is hugely involved in both the LA fires as well as the Asheville, Western North Carolina situation through Their relationship with Rio Tinto and Prometheus and Orion and Oracle and IBM. He is the either the co-chairman or the chairman of Republican Israel Caucus, which why did Israel have a Republican caucus. This isn't Israel, this is the United States. He's also the co-chair of the bipartisan task force to combat anti-Semitism, which, okay, that's fine. But who is he involved with? Well, the other co-chair of the bipartisan task force to combat anti-Semitism is a lady by the name of Jackie Rosen. who just stole her race from Sam Brown in Nevada and did not at all win her race. She's the president of Near to Mid, and she actually is the person who dictates and earmarks how FEMA dollars are allocated and earmarked in this country. And I'm thinking to myself, Because people in North Carolina are getting told we don't have any more money than the, you know, seven hundred fifty same song and dance that they did to the people in Lahaina that were being attacked by directed energy weapons. They said, oh, sorry, we don't have anything for you other than, you know, seven hundred fifty dollars. They were trying to do that while also canceling their homeowners policies in. in California so that people would have nowhere to turn. So we're not going to play that bullshit. But in this situation, Kathy Rosen is on a Senate committee that tells FEMA it has to earmark personnel, resources, and money sufficiently to protect the Jewish community. above all else again I'm like you I don't have a problem with the Jewish community however I do have a problem the moment that somebody looks at a balance sheet and says here's ten million dollars sitting in this you know account that's earmarked to protect the Jewish community and we've already drained our coffers for the amount of money, you know, the pool that's designed to give to disaster relief victims. I have a very big fucking problem with you telling people we don't have any money for you and then looking at this ten million dollars that's earmarked to protect quote unquote the jewish community and no other ethnic group in this country has such a carve out with fema I have a really big problem with you telling me that they can't get in a single penny because these taxpayer dollars are allocated for jews and only jews I don't play that and as long as I have air in my lungs I will see to it that they won't play that Because nobody protected classes of people. We should all be one nation. Correct. You're not special. You're no more special. You're no more deserving of protections, especially not public funded protections like I'm not paying for you to get private security because you did a bunch of bad shit against me and now you want me to fund your own protection from me? Fuck that. Pardon my French. And that goes for anybody. If it was a bunch of white Christian people who were like literally carbon copies of me and they were doing a bunch of this heinous bullshit and I was like, yeah, you guys are like making it a bummer for me. Like you're making me look bad. I wouldn't sit on the sidelines and pretend I don't see you clearly doing this shit. I would be like leading the charge, largely to try to like clear my name and be like, No, I'm not with them. I promise. Like, that's not how I roll. But it shouldn't matter. And they've done this time after time after time and Jackie Rosen, this bipartisan task force co chair works right alongside Karen Bass's right hand at National Endowment for Democracy. And then on the board of directors at National Endowment for Democracy, you have a guy by the name, oh, you have a guy by the name of Elliot Abrams, who's like, you know, one of the chairman of the Holocaust Council because we need way more of that. But another thing about Peter Roskam, that I almost forgot. Jonathan went dark. Let's see what happens here. I'm hoping he comes back on. I'm going to guess he got maybe a phone call on his phone. Sometimes that happens. Sorry, I had a phone call come in, Donna. I'm sorry. Peter Roskam. is one of the guys that was responsible for covering up Benghazi and what happened there and protecting Hillary Clinton. I didn't know that. I can't hear you. I don't know if you can hear me. I can. But I did not know that. Yeah, I'm not okay with that. I'm not okay with that at all. And I think the people that are behind Benghazi need to be brought to swift justice. you know, exhaust their due process, but it's not okay anymore. And Elliott Abrams, one of the directors of National Endowment for Democracy, Ben Sasse, board of directors of In-Q-Tel, one of the directors of National Endowment for Democracy, Elise Stefanik even, unfortunately, the New York Republican Elise Stefanik, National Endowment for Democracy. Juan Zarate, the global co-head of K-II Integrity, which you and I have talked about at length in the past. works for the Vatican, works for Israeli intelligence, works for McLarty Associates. And McLarty Associates and K-II, these are the people that knocked down the World Trade Center towers during the nine-eleven attacks. I'm not okay with these people engaging in terrorism and then using the resources that they're granted through taxpayer funding to protect themselves from scrutiny or accountability. And that's not something that is tenable for Americans going forward. Enough is enough and peacefully or otherwise we're going to put a stop to it. So I hope it's peacefully, but they're going to decide how it gets adjudicated. Can you hear me yet? Can you hear me? Can you leave and come back in? Okay. Sometimes that happens when we get a phone call, and we're going to bring it back in here real quickly and see if we can make this work so we can talk back and forth. Because these core issues that our country is dealing with are going to have to be dealt with. I'm going to wait until he gets back on here, and I'm going to bring up the fact that AIPAC really sticks in my craw a little bit here because most of our politicians have an AIPAC handler, and they're being told what to do, and I've got a big problem with that. But that has nothing to do with the Israeli people. It has what to do with the, we'll just call it what the Bible calls it, the synagogue of Satan, the infiltrators. the the fakes that are in in place just like we've got fake republicans we've got fake democrats we've got fake muslims we've got fake jews and we've got fake christians they infiltrate these organizations or these titles and install themselves but they're not who they say they are and I have a big problem I wanted to show you something real quick here because I was in dc I want to get your your thoughts on this little little gem right here what's your thoughts on this I'm like scanning and then, oh. And then that aha moment comes through. I saw it on your face. It's like, aha. I'm curious, Donna, would you estimate the vast majority of your viewers, because they're going to almost certainly be more well-informed than your average content media influencer audience? loyal follower would they look at this photo and say oh I don't want that person and I don't like that person because I feel like they would I think that we're talking to a a learned well-educated informed uh audience here today I think so too. And let me ask you a question here because I've got a lot of, a lot of questions. And when I was there, you know, people were wondering if Eric Prince and Betsy Prince were like having Christmas dinner together, if they were still friends or if they were apart. Well, I went into one place and they were sitting there at the table. It was Betsy, Dick, Eric and his wife were sitting at the table there and they were all hanging out together. And then Then Eric took off and went into an event that I was at for the Log Cabin Republicans, which I thought was interesting. I think he's on the board of that. That's what I found out recently. And then you've got Bill White there that's standing next to him. And I just think that things are more complicated than what people believe or know that they are. Okay. And so these are all things that I think we need to ask questions of, and they may be difficult questions to ask, but we've got to ask our questions. And I got to tell you, I wanted to hear what your, what your opinion is on Sean Ryan as an interviewer, because I'm going to tell you, I've got some opinions and I can't substantiate necessarily all of them, but it's like, where the hell does this guy come from? Well, um, One thing I appreciate about you, Donna, is that like... I don't care if I piss off. That's what my problem is. I don't care if I piss off anybody if we get the truth out there. Yeah, and I... Admittedly enough, and shame on me for being asleep for so long, but I didn't have any idea or give a shit who Eric Prince was until about three years ago. Until he started being relevant to the events that were transpiring that affected my life. And, you know, I remember I think it was, it's probably been a year ago now. that you and I first got started talking about, you know, the shit that I dug up on Prince and who he is. And I came into this shit after the twenty twenty two elections in Arizona with no I didn't give a shit where the truth led. I only cared that it was the truth and the facts of the situation. And, you know, I said, I sent you the information that I compiled Prince's backstory and Blackwater and Betsy DeVos and who those people really are. And you realize that, you know, the disasters that have happened in the past are very similar, maybe grander at scale than many of the disasters that are happening today and many of the same players are central to both timeframes. And for those who don't know, Eric Brentz is, uh, Blackwater's founder and CEO. Blackwater, uh, changed names after a few mergers, it became triple canopy and, uh, eventually became Constellas. Uh, Constellas was one of the key firms that was involved with vaccine adherence, um, FDA approved vaccine adherence during, uh, operation warp speed. Um, his company which was blackwater became constellus and it was bought by apollo global management in um for north of I believe six hundred million dollars um maybe even more but eric prince if we rewind the clocks we go back to nine eleven and we find out that um the people who planned and executed nine eleven We talked about the CIA, Alvin Crongard, the number three guy at the CIA. What would be considered the executive director position of the CIA, he was put into that position in March of two thousand and one. Alvin Crongard is a longtime Apollo Global management and Alex Brown, which is a financial firm. that he was chairman and CEO of, he was appointed as executive director of the CIA on March of, and who appointed him? George Tenet. George Tenet is the director at that time of the CIA. This is the same George Tenet whose son John today sits with Peter Thiel and all of Elon Musk's and Thiel's Palantir and Anduril homies. Anduril is Matt Gaetz, his brother-in-law, Palmer Luckey. These are the financiers of the tech bros of Silicon Valley that are trying to infiltrate the Trump administration. And George Tenet, appoints Cron Guard in March of two thousand and one Cron Guard then his old firm I should say Alex Brown that he was chairman and CEO of again five days before nine eleven buys ninety five percent of the American or I'm sorry the United Airlines puts in existence and you buy a put a put is a is an options contract to buy you know shares of a stock If you think the price is going to go up, you buy a call option. Or if you think the price is going to go down, you buy put options. Well, they bought ninety five percent of all the put options on United Airlines stock. And famously enough, United Airlines and American Airlines were the two airlines that were used in the four aircraft that were involved in in nine eleven. And then. Coincidentally enough, just five days later, they proved to be a genius and, and, you know, nine, eleven happens. And then we go into the war on terror and Alvin Cron guard becomes Eric Prince's contact at the CIA and Eric Prince and his Blackwater company, which Alvin Cron guard said on the board of. They got their first Iraqi client doing work for L. Paul Brimmer of Kissinger McLarty. L. Paul Brimmer is one of the two chief planners of the nine-eleven attack with Brian Michael Jenkins of Kroll, who was the deputy chairman of Kroll at that time. But Brian Michael Jenkins has a history that comes up from the lineage of Allen Dulles and Rand Corp and Noah Gottdiner. the mk ultra program this guy literally worked on the psychological manipulation and and control of people through stimuli whether it be sound or images imagery or any number of ways that u.s naval intelligence cia british intelligence and israeli intelligence used to control and manipulate people psychologically and they've been doing it since the late originally under the purview of Alan Dulles and Brian Michael Jenkins, you know, Kroll, Jules Kroll, longtime known Israeli Mossad asset that was involved in the assassination of Robert Kennedy. And it's kind of surreal seeing Robert Kennedy Jr. sitting in confirmation hearings today, getting peppered with questions about how he will dutifully serve the HHS. And I'm just thinking to myself, the people that are writing the questions are probably the people that killed his dad, his uncle, and his cousin. I agree with that. I believe that that's the case. And Watson tried to derail him. And he's actually doing quite well. I really do think that, you know, this guy's got an ax to grind. And I'm pretty sure when he gets cut loose on this, the fur's going to fly. I met him. And I thought he was one of the most sincere people that I have yet met in politics. I like him as a person. He admits when he makes a mistake. And he's learning. You know, like the rest of us, he's learning. You know, we all come from somewhere. And as we watch things unfold in this process, we learn. And I was pretty impressed with pretty much everything he said. RFK Jr. I am impressed. Praying for him. I hope, you know, the best. And I hope that when he gets in there, he is committed to unwinding the riffraff. And I mentioned Constellus being involved with, um, vaccine adherence. That's Eric Prince. Let me take something out to you on that one, too, because here's another picture. And what I know about this is that that these these wonderful people in Grand Rapids here have got a couple of different places called Graham and they were producing the vaccine in Grand Rapids, Michigan, or packaging it. And there you go. They were sitting right there together. And I want to show everybody that. So there's your proof. They're still probably doing Christmas dinner together. And my guess is that I don't know what to say. When you see all of these connections, you can't walk away from it. And then also to find out that it was there for a Log Cabin event. And I know a lot of people in Log Cabin Republicans And then I believe I've got to look and see, but I believe that Prince is on the board there now, which to me now, I hate to say it. I'm not above burning anything right to the ground that needs to be burnt to the ground by truth. If the truth needs to come out, then so be it, you know, and I am neither suicidal nor plans to go anywhere. And neither does Jonathan. So if anything happens to us, we probably should look in the direction of the names we've thrown out there and start asking questions because we're pissing people off by telling the truth. So be it. I don't want their money. I don't, you know, I want the truth. If they got nothing to hide and they've done something right. then come on BNN and we'll talk about it. I'll give anybody a chance, right? We want to get to the truth. Please come on BNN and help us set the record straight. And that goes to Eric and Betsy. If you're part of something that's trying to help take the global initiative down, I give you a chance to explain this because we don't know everything. All we want is the truth. Wherever that lands, give us the truth. And so many infiltrators that are out there that are great at infiltration. And I give people a chance because a lot of times we don't know which side people are on. But, man, I'm going to tell you what, when things look like look like a duck and quack like a duck, it's probably a duck, you know. So set the record straight and I will give you a fair and impartial chance to do that. Something that's also extremely pertinent to RFK Jr. and his confirmation at HHS as it relates to getting justice for the vaccine tyranny and really the COVID biological terrorism situation we were just under. I mentioned that Constellas was responsible for vaccine adherence during the rollout. Well, Kroll, which is also founded by the same Jules Kroll that co-founded K-II Integrity and was involved in nine eleven. Kroll was actually tasked with protecting big pharma and basically identifying, flagging, targeting and removing. basically reports from victims of the vaccines and the adverse events. They were going online and scraping the internet for testimonials of people who had been injured by the vaccines, and they were labeling it misinformation, malinformation, and disinformation, and they were removing true stories of people who had actually been harmed. And that's what Kroll, had been doing in partnership with Big Pharma. So Prince was getting them to take the vaccine and then Kroll was scraping data to remove the people who were reporting true side effects and mal events and adverse events and many of which were originally updated and added into the VAERS system and many of which have been scrubbed now. Who were they, how were they doing all of this? What platform were they using? They were using Palantir to do this. And that's where it comes full circle for me and AVC and Founders Fund and Peter Thiel and Matt Danzese and Peter Thiel's husband and Li Keqing, basically the Chinese Communist Party businessman, wealthiest guy in Hong Kong, dark money behind the scenes that's subsidizing it. And I mean, you look at Jacob Holberg, who is under secretary for AI. He's married to Keith Rayboy. Keith Rayboy is one of the partners over at Founders Fund. And you look at the causes that they're funding and supporting and the platforms that they're behind. Palantir's also... like they were in charge of warp speed and the worst part of all is that um so palantir is a juggernaut data repository that collates data using uh ai and ml and and quantum level computing for data collation so that it can be on the spot real time updated with the latest evidence based information and all the facts that you have to make a predictive analytics best guess of your what they would call war-gamed or game-theory optimal response to addressing any situation that comes. And what you guys need to realize is that our government and even the bad actors in the private sector that work hand-in-glove with our government, they don't just do anything. Like, if they're going to, like, you know, walk down to the end of their driveway and go to the mailbox, they're going to war-game. the best route that they need to take to walk to the mailbox. They're going to play out every potential scenario and everything that could possibly go wrong to give them optimal chance of success with as little brushback or blowback or potential consequences or exposure on the other side of this. And so that's what they were doing. They war-gamed the entire... pandemic. And worst of all, on March eighth of twenty twenty, not only did they already know through clinical trials that were already happening and being rolled out with patients affected with covid not only did they know that remdesivir was not effective they knew that it was nephrotoxic that it was literally killing people and killing people at a rate that was thirty five to forty x above not doing anything so we would call that placebo or the control group thirty five hundred to four thousand percent more harmful, fatally. And how was it fatal? Well, it causes organ failure. It causes the kidneys to fail, which leads to a cascade and a shunting of blood that many organs like the brain, liver, lungs, spleen and kidneys all compete. to get that shunted blood and that's how you get the organ failure cascade that leads to people dying. Well, they knew that on March eighth of twenty twenty and then eight days later on March sixteenth, they also knew that not only was hydroxychloroquine effective, it was superior significantly superior at every level of COVID treatment, even prophylactically. So pre-infection as like a, a vaccine to inoculate people from getting COVID to begin with then early post-infection and then late stage post-infection and the late stage hospitalization, uh, I guess NISH is where Remdesivir fraudulently acquired its emergency use authorization. And they hid that and Palantir knew about it because they had that information. And they hid it not only to make the EUA plausible, and they didn't need the EUA to... to protect themselves from being wrong about, you know, this drug or that drug. They did it to protect themselves and inoculate themselves from murders that they were going to engage in in the future in the hospital networks that they controlled. And those hospital systems include Will Cornell, New York Presbyterian Hospital, Cleveland Clinic, Columbia Vigellos, Mount Sinai, Cedars-Sinai, It's just, it's the worst thing you can possibly imagine. They knew what they were doing and you add ventilation on top of it. And they know a link committed genocide against, um, white people in, in hospitals, um, that they controlled and. What's more, and where it really gets heinous, is that at the same time that they were doing that, you had people like Andy Slavitt, who were undersecretary of the COVID- task force for President Biden. who was one of the earliest investors in a company called Somatis. Somatis was co-founded by Ikenna Okezi, a McKinsey and company consultant. McKinsey is largely involved with there being no water in Los Angeles or in California right now. Isn't that tied into the wonderful corporation there too? Wellness company. I don't know. But Colson Group is who that is. But in California, Gavin Newsom's right-hand money guy is Lenny Mendonca. He's basically the senior partner emeritus at McKinsey & Co. one of the emeritus trustees and co-founders of New America, which is, you know, Michael Crow, In-Q-Tel, CIA, the McCain Institute. And he basically built McKinsey's consulting business for the West Coast. Ikenna Okezi is one of his management consultants, co-founder of Somatis. And the other co-founder is Anthony Welters. Anthony Welters Basically runs NYU, trustee emeritus at NYU Langone Medical Center, board member of Gilead, which creates Remdesivir, board member of Carlyle Group, which is invested in Remdesivir and the COVID, the production of COVID to begin with in Wuhan, China and in at Duke University in North Carolina and Weissman Institute in Rehoboth and in Ukraine. And then he's also a board member at Lowe's Corp. Lowe's Corp is run by James Tisch, chairman of Mount Sinai, or co-chairman and CEO of Lowe's Corp, and his brother Andrew, who is the co-chairman of Lowe's Corp and the former president of UJA Federation. James Tisch was the chairman of UJA Federation, and he was the chairman during nine eleven. He was the immediate successor of lucky Larry Silverstein, who owned World Trade Center Plaza during nine eleven. Immediately prior to nine eleven, I should say, Larry was the chairman from ninety four to ninety seven. Ninety eight to two thousand and one was James Tisch and twelve days before the United Health CEO, Brian Thompson, was murdered in the street in New York. James Tish's daughter, Jessica L. Tish, was quietly named New York Police Commissioner. Really? NYPD. That's a new one for me. Yeah, they had a ten thousand dollar reward for any information about that would lead to the identification of who killed Brian Thompson. And my buddy Dakota famously, like, it was hilarious. He tagged me in a post. He said, you know, right after they made the announcement, dude, are you going to go collect the ten thousand? Because we put out basically the people of key interest who are going to be behind the murder of Brian Thompson. And it goes right back to, you know, Grant Verstandig, Third Option Foundation, Eight VC, John Tennant, like the same Palantir bros and CIA adjacent bros that we've been talking about. Grant Verstandig was the senior advisor to Brian Thompson at UnitedHealth. He was the former, I say, chief digital officer at UnitedHealth. And he's a director of the Third Option Foundation, which is basically a CIA NGO run by John Phelan, who is the same Phelan as like Dade Phelan and, you know, Halliburton and was he was literally michael dell's handler cia handler john that's john phelan it's incredible it's incredible how how woven together all of these people are and um so I'm like I'm in the process of replying to my buddy dakota who said dude are you gonna go claim that ten thousand dollars and I start typing in like the the at for to tag the new york police department and I wasn't even looking for this and it shows up uh ny police mypd commissioner jessica l tish and I'm like tish huh that's interesting because her father uh at mount sinai he and peter may and richard friedman and um One other guy I can't remember. They were all installed atop Mount Sinai Hospital in April of twenty nineteen, just months before COVID made landfall. So they wanted to make sure they had their chest pieces atop these hospital networks so that they could control the protocols that were used within those hospitals. And Mount Sinai Hospital Network is one of the larger hospital network systems in the country, as is the same that happened at New York Presbyterian Hospital and at Cleveland Clinic, all of which are partnered with our buddies over at Palantir. And so Palantir wasn't only involved in the COVID response at the governmental level with Operation Warp Speed, they were fully integrated into these unique hospital network systems that were owned by the private sector. we're dictating that no remdesivir is all we're doing and this is how our coveted response and you know andy slavitt the undersecretary for um the covenanting task force for biden is one of the early co-investors in somatis and somatis is like I mentioned co-founded by akina okizi and anthony welters well somatis is an ai value-based kidney transplant company. So at the same time that they insisted on remdesivir usage, which they knew was harmful and nephrotoxic or toxic to the kidneys, they were investing in an AI based platform that basically did Unitarian, um, eugenics, if you will, to decide who gets kidneys and who doesn't get kidneys based on some arbitrary pre-prescribed sets of facts about a person's immutable characteristics, their ethnicity, their background, but also their values and their adherence to the government's dictates. Are you vaccinated? You're not vaccinated? You're definitely not getting the kidney. And When you realize that at the same time all of this was happening, they were telling us that even if you've been exposed to COVID prior and you now have natural immunity, which we know and have known for, you know, decades, that natural immunity is broader and more resilient and far more protective than vaccine-induced immunity. artificial immunity if you will um we've known that that's virology and immunology one-to-one type stuff and they were still mandating that people who had already had prior exposure to covid that had to get vaccinated to still be able to get on the organ recipient on the transplant list and they were refusing organs to people who we're just abiding by things that we knew to be true. And Palantir helped them do that. And the platform was built In collusion with Palantir, you also had groups like Blue Cross and Blue Shield, and you had Anthem. And Anthem is probably the most sinister because they're partners with Forest Marsh Group and the CDC and UJA Federation. And so UJA Federation, James Tisch, Andrew Tisch, the people I just mentioned atop Mount Sinai, UJA is chaired by Mark Rowland, the CEO of Apollo Global Management. Board of Directors includes Lloyd Blankfein, the Senior Chairman at Goldman Sachs. You've also got... Shit. Tons and tons of bad guys, but... Are they really untouchable, this group of people? I think they've probably never had anybody challenge them because they wave the almighty dollar in front of people's noses. And so many people will take the bait. And now that situation has changed because there are so many of us who are just totally sick of their shit. Yes, I agree. go wrong you're absolutely right if they don't have any extortion leverage over you and they can't blackmail you with your own livelihood or or your ability to to live or speak or have a voice um they really have no way to um there's nothing that they can do and they've never been checked like you said like nobody has ever had the courage or the ability even to, until Elon's acquisition of Twitter, I don't think they've ever been peppered as hard as they are getting peppered now, because people are now learning that they're not just a lobby, they're not just a Israeli-friendly organization that is supporting Jewish causes. They are literally an arm of Mossad, and they are the operational arm of Mossad in the United States. And they were behind nine eleven in collusion with George Bush White House and our own Central Intelligence Agency. Many of those assets, a top leadership, probably also working directly with Mossad, including and especially Eric Prince's CIA contact, Alvin Crongard. who is also a trustee at In-Q-Tel, who is also a director at Apollo Global Management, and who's a chairman of the government advisory board of Iridium Satellite Communications, which was involved in the J-Six entrapment operation against Trump supporters on J-Six. But you look at these people and you realize warp speed was, the controlled eugenics of certain populations in not only the United States but the rest of the world and Palantir was centrally thematic to it and integral to all of it and they did it all knowing what they were doing was not only antithetical to evidence-based medicine and science it was literally murder and funny enough you hear Elon on Twitter engaging with a lot of his Silicon Valley tech bros and Elon comes up from the PayPal Mafia and the PayPal Mafia I mean the thing about mafia is like the whole, like you don't ever really retire from it. So you're talking, you know, Teal and Hoffman and Andreessen and Mark Andreessen and his firm, Andreessen Horowitz, um, Shriram Krishnan, who was just appointed as, um, I think the undersecretary for AI in the Trump administration is that in that it's it's something like that, like his title, Traram, S-R-I-R-A-M, Krishnan, K-R-I-S-H-N-A-N. He was appointed in the Trump administration as as like a head of AI, I believe. Venture cap list. Hang on a minute. Let's see where we go with this. This is extremely important where I'm going with this. I want to make sure that Trump's AI advisor. Good. So he's the partner at Andreessen Horowitz. And I mentioned Anthem and the integration of AI-based unitarian or value-based unitarian health care, if you will, where the AI looks at your immutable characteristics and your values and your actions and a whole host of other factors that they arbitrarily decide determine whether you're worth living or dying. They use these platforms to decide who lives, who dies, who gets treatments, and who doesn't. And one of the key collaborators with Palantir and UJA Federation in building these algorithmic eugenics AI-based tools is Anthem. And the woman of interest, of most interest here with Anthem, is Ruth Raskas, R-A-S-K-A-S. She helped... design that platform. She works as the Chief Growth Officer of UJA Federation, and she's the head of Anthem AI, or was the head of Anthem AI. And she's also an advisory board member for MDI Health, which is literally run by the Israeli Director General of Public Health. And that guy's name It'll probably come to me in the next couple of minutes when I'm not thinking about it. But Anthem is partnered with Forrest Marsh Group and the CDC and the FDA, and they get government money, tons of government money. Fauci gave Forrest Marsh Group money. And my friend Marissa Hansen probably wrote the most informative expose on Forrest Marsh Group. I would highly encourage anybody to go look at it. But right around the timelines that the vaccines were rolling out is the same time that Anthony Fauci was handing out three hundred and fifty million dollars in additional government contract money, which they were then filtering down through their partners. at CDC, FDA, IRS, Facebook, and of course Anthem. This is on my profile so anybody can can look at this and see and I would encourage you guys to check check her stuff out on force marsh group but this was taxpayer money that was being funded to play god with people algorithmically in this biometric data surveillance state that they want to create and the problem is when you have an ai or an ml platform or any kind of algorithmic-based system that's designed to use pre-prescribed logic and pre-prescribed parameters to dictate optimal approaches and optimal outcomes when those parameters are built and predicated on incorrect information or false information. it's not tenable or conducive for a system that is going to be uh sustainable it's and it's really terrorism at that point if I'm saying if I'm programming an ai and you and I are agreeing that you know this could help you know our civilization it could help us become a kardashev one society um we both agree I'm in true I'm in control of programming and then you find out that I've baked into the algorithm that everybody named Donna is a fuck face and they don't deserve, you know, natural rights. And I just baked that into the code. And then you're looking at it and I'm looking at it and you come across that part and you're like, this is not what we agreed on. I don't know that I like Existing in an environment or a universe in which this system which you've programmed to dislike me is going to arbitrate whether I am deserving and allowed access to things that are my rights as a human being. That's what we're up against, and they're playing God with this healthcare shit. And Sriram Krishnan at Andreessen Horowitz was tasked with basically turning their platform, their entire healthcare platform, the A-sixteen-Z platform, and integrating this AI algorithmic-based environment into their entire firm. And why is that bad? You remember that the United Health Group president, Dan Rosenthal, worked for a long time and I think still does today at Andreessen Horowitz. And so they were working hand in glove with United Health Group, with Anthem, with Palantir to create the very digital prison and digital murder system apparatuses and genocide and eugenics apparatuses that are becoming our and quickly becoming our health care system today that are predicated on parameters that assholes in Silicon Valley and tech bros that neither you nor I probably ideologically have anything in common with or values wise with that want to determine You know, do I get a kidney if I absolutely need it? Does my mom get a kidney if she absolutely needs it? Has she been a good little specimen? And, you know, you've got Sam Altman, who I wouldn't hire to fucking deliver me pizzas, and hanging out at Bilderberg Group with the Bilderberg Steering Committee and Perseus that was caught overcharging patients by literally a thousand percent for decades at UnitedHealth Group. These are the people who are designing our AI, the people that are skimming our healthcare system for their own personal enrichment and their own global tyrannical genocidal agendas. I don't want those people. They're the people that have value to them and the rest of them, they're determining what our value is and determine who lives and who dies based on it censorship is the same way when they censor us they are literally killing off our ability to talk or even be a person or whatever I mean all of these systems are are set up to silence us and if if it doesn't work and we don't we're not a benefit to them they just eliminate us yeah and I look at this past six years you know when when I get into won't say arguments I'll say heated discussions on social media about you know the the direction that the administration seems to be going based on the personnel that are they're being hired um and that you know these same people that are trying to dictate to me that this is what's necessary this is what's you know good and the best and I'm like thinking to myself I don't know if you guys forgot, but like, last six years, I'm the guy that's on the side of the people who have been right about everything. And one of a handful, I'm talking less than a hundred people, on all of Twitter, that were... calling bullshit and were right about COVID back when Christian Anderson was still trying to shitpost Scripps Research Institute hot takes about the SARS-CoV-II, the proximal origins of COVID, to bullshit on behalf of the CIA, Eric Topol, Warren Buffett, Jeremy Farrar, Anthony Fauci, Ralph Baric, and all these people who... Literally created, released, and covered up a bioweapon and tried to pretend natural immunity didn't exist and then mandated I take a vaccine that they were invested in even after I had already been exposed to COVID. I wasn't only right and you were wrong. I was right and you were fucking lying. And you doxed me and came after me and my family when I was taking care of sick relatives. and you murdered my grandfather in a hospital doing this same bullshit in April of twenty twenty not only am I not gonna like stop or let you have this I'm gonna fucking destroy you and I as long as I have air in my lungs I'm gonna make sure that everybody on earth knows who you are I don't give a shit if you cozy up to Trump to where you sleep in the Lincoln bedroom with him I don't give a shit the American people are going to have They're due recourse. Otherwise, there is going to be no American people because there's going to be no America. But make no mistake, this is exactly what the framers told us that we as Americans, as patriots, not only had the right to do, but we had the obligation to do if our hope was to have an America to hand down to our kids and grandkids. Because what's happening right now is it's being... stolen out from under us by midwits who I believe are are are actors I don't believe that I mean I'm at the point now where I don't believe that um reid hoffman peter teal I don't believe mark andreessen I don't believe sam I don't believe these people are the the you know existentially great um outlier you know, Tony Starks that they've been, you know, broadcast and marketed to us as. I believe that they're fucking hundred and ten IQ midwits who wear, you know, a mask in public to be the face of the people behind the scenes that really are behind all of this. And the puppet masters that are just pulling the strings full time. Yeah, I don't. I look at the things that they say in the logic patterns and the fact patterns and the things that they've gotten wrong over time. I'm like, Marc Andreessen, you're you're You're not impressive to me. Dan Rosenthal, you're not impressive to me. Not only are you not impressive to me, I think you're full of shit. I don't think you've done any of these things that you pretend to all of us that you have done. I don't believe that you're some tech genius anymore. I actually think you're a charlatan. And I think that applies across a lot of the heroes that they say we should never meet. I agree with you on that so much. I mean, when you start digging into people like Perry in Michigan who ran for governor and he said that he had written all of these things, it's like, I know people and they're like, no, it wasn't exactly the way that he was presenting it. He wasn't he was, I believe, a trainer, but I don't think he was actually the one that that determined all the things that he said that he did. So they conflate what they've done in order for people to think they're bigger and they're more in the know. But most of it is just it's just it's lies. It's just sleights of hand. And that's it. Yeah, I agree. I mean, we've talked about this a number of times, like if you are operating in good faith, If you guys were who you are now, here at the Eleventh Hour, trying to portray yourselves that you really are, you wouldn't have John Cornyn and Vivek Ramaswamy on Doge. Like, you'd be picking up the fucking phone and calling me and the guys that I work with, because... You know, I'm biased, but the intel that we put out on that platform with the level of detail and the volume at which we do it months, even sometimes years before anybody else does it. We are the best private intelligence apparatus on the planet. Hands down, hands down. There's no question about it. And we do it for free. So if Doge was really about what you portrayed it to be about, you'd be calling us. You wouldn't be calling the people that tried to dispatch of Ken Paxton when he went to bat for Donald Trump and he went to bat for the state of Georgia in the efforts of defending election integrity in the United States. You wouldn't go after Ken Paxton or you wouldn't hire a John Cornyn who... famously went after Ken Paxton when all those charges came out just months after Ken Paxton started investigating Pfizer and the vaccine manufacturers and all the CIA cunts at Planned Parenthood didn't like that too much because it's not really about a woman's right to choose. It's about a big pharma's right to have access to stem cell rich fetal tissue and placental tissue for genomic biological weapons research. You're right over the target on that. I wish and I hope people get it figured out that they're not just selling aborted babies. I'm pretty extra sure that they're selling the full term babies that they call partial birth abortions. Oh, I think it's ten times worse than even you and I know. And three months ago, bringing it full circle, going back to Ukraine and this exact conversation. So Ukrainian investigators find out that, and international investigators, I think some of them, some of which are at the ICC, find out that seven percent of Ukraine's revenue every year comes from the global black market, organ trafficking market. And Coca-Cola is one of the biggest customers that they have. And you look at firms like Santander, which is basically like a global consortium linchpin of all these same people that are involved with this global kid trafficking, child rape and organ trafficking and harvesting rackets. And cannibalism. Let's throw it in there. You know, people are going to have to come to terms with it because they're involved in cannibalism. And I was late to finally getting on board with the whole adrenochrome thing. I actually thought it was a distraction for a long time. I thought it was one of those lore things that... they get people to believe so that if in the event that they come across some real shit in the future, they can point to this. Yeah, you subscribe to that adrenochrome bull crap, you know, so you're a lunatic. We shouldn't pay attention. I literally thought that about the adrenochrome market until I actually started diving into it. I have a friend that they actually they actually injected him in a party when he was younger. They literally injected him in a party and he got stuffed into a trunk and they did rescue him. But when you know somebody who was, you know, he was, he was in his, I believe his teens and he was injected and, you know, he didn't know anything about it. And then all of a sudden, you know, shit got. You froze up, Donna. I don't know if you're still there. You can hear me. Yeah, I can hear you. Can you hear me? Yeah, good now. Okay. I said, yeah, I said he was actually injected. And so it is a thing. And once you get your hands around the fact that this is the most expensive drug on the planet and how they are doing it. I mean, I don't know if you've seen the manifest of these facilities that actually produce it, but have you ever seen those? It's horrific. I've seen some of them, and they know that the concentration, the purity, and the potency of adrenochrome comes based on secretion of cortisol and the stress hormone from the pineal gland of young kids. And that's its purest form, if you can get that version of it. I'm reminded that, hey, Peter Till is also one of those guys who's openly outspoken about how he injects himself with teen blood either once a month or once a quarter. That's odd to me. That's not something like it's just regular PCP where you're getting platelet count replacement therapies that many people have and which are great, but I'm not actively going and getting teenage blood from these people, specifically from young people in black market. I don't even want to go down that rabbit hole. Santana as well as I do is that they're farming it. And when you see the manifests of the kids, they actually have the termination date for these kids when they're done. They usually live for a couple of years and they terminate them. That sounds like some Mr. Steele, the good man himself, some information that he put out on that investigation because he led the the adrenochrome and the kid trafficking and harvesting he was talking about exactly what you mentioned, the expiration date that these kids have, whether it's in prostitution or if it's in drug utility, basically using them for their organs. And what I believe is happening now, I'm almost certain, I'll just say it. It's happening. Now they're cloning people. Cloning young people. And they're cloning them just expressly for the purposes to cut them up and harvest them like the way that you would kill a cow and, you know, get its meat, its milk, and... It's just, it's absolutely vile. And the worst quote-unquote pharma experiments in the world, the worst atrocities in the world, happen in Ukraine in many of their underground labs that they have. And those same labs are the labs that Victoria Nuland and our buddy Marco Rubio, the Secretary of State, basically ran interference for in Congress. And turns out Marco Rubio and his buddies, his biggest investor, Norman Brahman, former president of the Greater Miami Jewish Federation, which is part of the entity called Jewish Federations of North America, the parent organization of UJA Federation, which is Mossad. So it's a Mossad global bioterrorism racket and, you know, The same people that are involved with Epstein are involved with Mount Sinai and the hospital networks that I just mentioned. Leon Black, who is one of Jeffrey Epstein's longest time associates. He's Mark Rowan's co-founder of Apollo Global Management. He's a director at Apollo Global Management. He's a trustee at Mount Sinai Hospital. That same Mount Sinai that's run by Richard Freeman and James Tisch, whose daughter was named police commissioner less than two weeks before Brian Thompson was murdered. These people, they're engaging in the most heinous acts imaginable. And it's no longer, like the problem that we have now is that it's no longer in some faraway land. Like it's hard to wrap your mind around Haiti and think, imagine the atrocities that the Clinton Foundation and the McCain Institute and Save the Children are doing in Haiti or in Guatemala. And granted, Guatemala is not as remotely detached from the United States as a Haiti or a Ukraine, but now they're engaging in those same behaviors on our soil. It's here now. They have been for a while. Unfortunately, it's just that we're waking up to this. and having to confront this, that this is in all of our, it's everywhere. It's not like it's in the town next door. No, it's in your town. You just don't know that it's there yet. And when we finally wake up to this fact at how pervasive this nonsense is, I hope people take a great big deep breath on this because These networks that are out there are huge. They they you know, if you think that politics is nasty, that's just like the front face of what you've got behind the scenes. And those people are monsters. This is where monsters come to life. Yeah. And one of the hubs in where they're doing, like you said, where they're already doing many of those things. In this country, one of those hubs is Cleveland Clinic in Ohio. Unfortunately. Cleveland Clinic also partnered with Palantir. Is basically at this point a subsidiary of New York Presbyterian hospital network system. which is chaired by Jerry Spire, who you've heard me say his name, top Masada GCHQ spy in the United States, and the chairman emeriti of New York Presbyterian Hospital, Maurice Greenberg, who is AIG, And by the way, FYI, UnitedHealth is a subsidiary of AIG. How about Corwell and Trinity? Those have gotten real big here in Michigan is Corwell Health and then Trinity and Spectrum. They're kind of all, they're the big names here, but it's all going to Corwell. I'll have to look into those in Michigan. Yeah, those are the big ones. But I guarantee Palantir's partners are Cleveland Clinic, New York Presbyterian, HCA Healthcare, and it's so bad because when you look at Cleveland Clinic, And you realize that Brian, what is his last name? He was the CEO of Cleveland Clinic, London until at which point he became the chief operating officer of I think his name is Brian Donnelly, if I remember correctly. Don't quote me, but it's something like that. He became the chief operating officer of New York Presbyterian Hospital, but he ran this global operation that has built up a huge presence in Ohio through Case Western Reserve University and Cleveland Clinic in collusion with the Jewish Federation of Cleveland. And you look at the board of directors of Cleveland Clinic, And you find a lot of these known Mossad assets that are working directly for these entities. And you look at who's tied in with Cleveland Clinic and you've got Tom Glosser, which is Blue Voyant's executive chairman, Blue Voyant is a, is a portfolio company of eight VC, which is the original financier of Palantir. Blue Voyant was co-founded by Tom Glosser, Jules Kroll from Kroll and K to integrity. We already mentioned nine, eleven, that whole deal, his son, Jeremy Kroll, and Some other guy I can't remember offhand, but I know his last name is Rosenthal. Ken Rosenthal. I don't know how I remember that just now, but these are the people that their names keep coming up again and again and again. And every time we get to a huge, you know, catastrophic and world altering event, just disaster in the United States that creates new paradigms for our country going forward. It's these people over and over and over again. And Robert Kennedy Jr. has an amazing opportunity, a once-in-a-generation opportunity, in my opinion, to exact actual meaningful change and protect the American people. And he's gonna be going up, he's gonna have the opportunity to go up against the same people who murdered his dad and his uncle and his cousin, because those are the same people who are behind all the things that he is gonna be tasked with fighting in his role as the director of HHS. And I hope that he does that because one of the previous directors, Jason Ruse, who was responsible for dissemination of FDA approved therapeutics and vaccines during COVID was in bed with Apollo and BC partners during the entire pandemic, the same people that were literally killing us. And, you know, that includes Mitra Hormozy, Andrew Cuomo's attorney. She was also on the board of directors of this Apollo racket, like the people who put elderly people in nursing homes and killed them. Richard Whitmer. Whitmer in Michigan and Cuomo and Mike DeWine and Phil Murphy. And I mean, these they were all on the same payrolls working against the best interests of the American people, making America less safe and making the health care system a coordinated murder depending on your race, your ethnicity and your ideology. And that's the direction if we don't make huge change. That's the direction that America is going irreparably and they're doing it with AI and ML platforms that are designed to remove even the primary healthcare provider. relationship with the patients like they are overriding um patients doctors and their prescribed treatments um and doing so to deny care under the guise of treatment not medically necessary and it's the biggest it's the biggest malpractice and um miscarriage of justice and violation of civil rights I've ever seen. It's incredible. Well, I got to tell you, I've been sitting here for about three and a half hours now, and my old body is going to have to get up and move around a little bit. As much as I love talking to you, I could sit here and talk with you like all day, All day tomorrow, days in a row, and never get sick of what you have to say because, like you said, yourself and the people that you work with are the singular greatest investigative team on the planet. I believe that. from the bottom of my heart. And it's just a privilege to know you and the fact that we've become friends and I just appreciate all the time and the work that you and everybody's put into this. And all I have to say is hats off to all of you. You're just extraordinary. The fact that you don't take money really makes a big deal to me because I feel the same way. I don't take money for this at all. This is all I do it for free for the love of country. For the fact that we have to step forward and take this on is our duty, our civic duty to get the real information out there. And when you don't take money for stuff like this, the influence isn't there. You say what you want and the hell with the rest of them. It's like, fine, I'm going to say what you don't like me. That's okay. I like the truth more than I like your approval of what I say. And that's exactly the way that you've gone into. And I haven't met many people that are as absolutely bullheaded and and unwavering as you are, as we are together as a group of people who just want our country back and want to see justice done to every one of these bad guys that are out there that are playing with people's lives. They're murderers. They are murderers and they're liars, cheats, thieves, and murderers. Yeah. And I appreciate you, Donna. You know, I always enjoy coming and talking to you. This is the fastest two hours I can remember having in a long time. It just flew by. It always does when we're sitting here talking and all of a sudden it's like, wow, three to four hours later, we're sitting here and it's just amazing. I would have you on this show every single day just to beat these names into people's minds, into their consciousness of what's really going on here. the structure of this dual economy they have going on. And basically, they're farming human beings for nefarious purposes and such. I mean, that's really what they're doing. It's a hard pill to swallow. And, you know, I honestly have some video of actually a satanic ritual. If people don't believe that the synagogue of Satan is real, It is most people can't make it through thirty seconds of what they're capable of doing to a human being. That's truth, because it's so horrific. This goes on all the time. They aren't like us. They're not like us. They literally are the synagogue of Satan and every bad dream you think you've ever had. This is just the beginning of realizing what they're actually capable of. This is what we fight. This is what we fight for is the destruction of these things. But let's make another plan to have you back on again because I think we could crack the lid off of this just a little bit more and get more truth out there for people to have to deal with because it's the truth. It's not our opinion. It's the truth. Well, let's say a prayer a minute. And do you want a prayer or do you want me to? You can go ahead. It's your show. You're the guest, though, and I love that, but I'll pray. Dear Heavenly Father, thank you so very much for Karen and for Jonathan and all the wonderful people who have decided to come on and tell what's going on. Sean Starry, too, is just amazing people who have stepped forward to your call in our lives, realizing that there is no reward that we're looking for. The reward is that we are able to do good works And be here as an ambassador of yours in a very hurting, very fallen world. And we want to do our best to follow you. Please guide us. Help us to follow you in your footsteps. Help us to be more like you. Help us to be unwavering in our faith. in our pursuit of doing the right thing and of representing you here in the goal being your kingdom on earth as it is in heaven. Expose all the evil that's out there. Heavenly Father, please expose it. Let it be laid open and thrown into the light so that people have to deal with the truth of the things that we were taken captive of so that we can turn around and walk away from all of it we don't want any part of it we don't want any golden calves we don't want any worship of money we don't want anything that tears people down not just their bodies but their souls and their spirit and we we ask you to bind satan give him a you know give him a good boot here because we're sick of this guy totally sick of him sick of everybody that sold out to him we're sick of all of them and we ask you would bind them and disable them, confuse all of their plans to the point where they don't even know which way is up, that all their evil plans are completely burned to ashes in defense of your children, your people. We thank you so much for this opportunity. We love you. You've been a great friend to us. We want to be a friend to you. And thank you for your protection, your guidance, wisdom, discernment. and all those gifts of the spirit that we should be desiring over the physical world. In the name of Jesus Christ, we pray. Amen. There we go, boys and girls. So this part of the show that we go to is go to ding, ding, ding, ding, brandenburgforgovernor.com because I'm the best not conceiver who has ever not conceived in the history of the United States of America. And I would like to have a discussion with the rightful president of the United States, President Donald J. Trump over this wearing cowboy boots. Do you have, we'll see who wears them better. I'm going to say it'll be me because I know how to buy good ones. He wears dress shoes, for gosh sakes. He doesn't know how to buy boots. Not real ones. But at any rate, let people know how to get in touch with you, Jonathan, on X and some of your other channels. And I post it on my stuff, right? It's like, give this guy a follow. You will be one thousand percent smarter, more informed and a better person for following Jonathan Kegel. And tell you what your ex account is, please. It's decent backup. So at just the word decent, like it's not great, but it's decent. And then capital B backup, B-A-C-K-U-P. And if you don't know where that is, you can go on my channel search around because I posted his stuff. I post more of his stuff. And I almost always tag you. I try to tag you in my stuff just because the reason why I tag you isn't to tell you something that you don't know. It's the fact that I can include your name in my posts. so that people can find you easier by going to my post it's because I want jonathan's name out there for everyone to see go follow him hands down you need to follow this guy so there you go anyhow well let's finish her up here god bless you all god bless all those whom you love god bless america make it a great day we we can be out there and be the the light and the in the darkness we can be the calm and the storm we can just we can decide not to waver and to bring all those good things forward where people actually have to confront it in a way that we conduct ourselves. It doesn't mean we're perfect. Nobody's perfect. The only one that was perfect was Jesus Christ, and he chose not to throw a stone. So we're out there doing our best. Grab somebody by the hand that's fallen. Help them when they fall because you're going to need it. I'm going to need it. Jonathan's going to need it because we're not perfect. So we're here to help each other as brothers and sisters, and that's exactly what we're going to do. Have a great day tomorrow. I'm on with, let's see, Off the Grid. And then Coach Dave is going to be on tomorrow. And so this guy is kind of fun. I like listening to him talking about the church has to step up, get off of its behind, stop pushing Gentile Jesus with a lamb on its feet, for gosh sakes. I'm kind of sick of this stuff, right? And say what needs to be said, do what needs to be done, and be a force for change. That's what we need to do. And I mean, in the good direction, not the bad direction. So we'll see you tomorrow. Stand in line, Jonathan.