Published Feb. 4, 2025, 9:01 a.m.
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Good morning and welcome to Brandenburg News Network. I am Donna Brandenburg, and it's the fourth day of February, twenty twenty five. And welcome to our show today. We have a great show lined up. First off, we're going to be talking to John Tater, Mr. Tater, and we're going to be talking about all things Constitution as well as lawful defense, how we defend ourselves in a in a republic. We're kind of in a civil action jurisdiction. and change things fundamentally. And that's what we're going through is learning the actual law and that the law is on our side. It's amazing. Then at ten o'clock, we're going to have on Curtis Clark and Curtis has Patriot approved. We're going to be talking to him a bit about several things. But today we're going to start out talking about the DNR, the pilfering of our natural resources here. If you don't know what's going on with the DNR in the state of Michigan, buckle up because these people have got unchecked power and they are literally going through our state, claiming all the resources for themselves and decimating the state of Michigan. Not only are they decimating things in the north of Park, Michigan, they're decimating it all over the place. Parks, everything. They are literally tearing this state apart. And I think that as soon as we get somebody actually a good governor, we will see the reversal of this very quickly, just like we have in the federal level with President Trump. the unified executive theory that needs to be put in place where it pulls all the power out of these NGOs, non-governmental agencies and cuts that DNR back to what it's supposed to be. So with that said, morning, Mr. Tater, how are you doing? I'm good. How are you doing? I'm good. You got a song for us today? No, today I don't, but next time I will. You didn't like my song last week. Money, money, money, by the pound, those creepy guys on the... Yeah, it's like our politicians right there for Donna Brandenburg. That's how I see it. Where is the Department of... You must have done this research if you're looking into it, and so should Curtis Clark. Where's the DNR in the Michigan Constitution? Yeah, I have done that and we've actually looked that up and gone through that. There's like section thirty-five and section fifty-two of, you're going to make me remember this by memory, right? My heart is getting full here. Get your Michigan book out and look. I'm going to do one better than that. Because we should, where does it say that they have the right to conference skate property? They don't. Well. They absolutely don't. And they can come on your property without a search warrant and basically do what they want. You got to fight them to get it back. I hate these guys. I really hate them. They can't do that. They can't do that. I think they need. Did you ever figure out that if you tell them that they're on to get off your property three times and they don't, then you can call the sheriff and have them arrested for trespass. Okay. It's article four section. Fifty-two is one of them. And then there's article four, four section. Thirty-five. Yep. Oh, man. what we really need to do is stop these scammers. For real, right? Every scam call that they give us, they need to pay for it. So here we go. There's Justia Law here. I pulled it up on Co-Pilot. Section what? Section four, Michigan Council. Article four, section fifty-two. The conservation and development of natural resources of the state are hereby declared to be a paramount public concern in the interest of health, safety, general welfare of the people. The legislature shall provide for the protection of the air, water, and other natural resources of the state from pollution, impairment, and destruction. Now, their overreach to this are used to- Yeah, I know I was going to get tatered for that one. Don't do overreach. Overreach is their language. Okay. Usurpation is criminal. Their usurpation of what they're supposed to be doing is clear if you look at it and what they've done. Well, guess what? Today we're going to talk about the fact that they have literally destroyed a campground in the state and blocked the roads that from people and and I'm gonna I'm just gonna throw this out here and I hope somebody looks into it I honestly think that the child trafficking and the trafficking in the state is kind of being being hidden by the dnr because they're in control of all the roads in the wall What a great way to move people. What's the other article? In this article of fifty-two, I don't see any authority for them to purchase or steal land from people. I don't see that. Well, there isn't, but they do it anyway. This is constitutional. They're violating their oath of office. They're violating the Constitution. This is criminal. This is usurpation of authority. This is violation of their oath of office. And that's where they should be taken. But who are these people? Do you have a director of the DNR? Do you know who he is? Yeah, I do. We looked that up too. Hang on. That's what we need to focus on. We need to put him on, on a, on a lawsuit and for violating article. What's the other article. Well, hang on, here's the other one. It's article nine, section thirty five. And so kind of looked into this fairly, fairly lengthy and actually I wrote a resolution. We're writing resolutions on this stuff and showing what they've done. In fact, I've got a resolution that's about ready for adoption and they're all going to get it in their email here pretty quick. But yeah, then it goes into Michigan National Resources Trust Fund. And this thing is so suspect, it's not even funny how they did a trust fund. It's nonsense. And then we looked up the people behind the scenes on this and it's pretty, pretty, pretty, enlightening on who is really involved in it and who's paying them. There's one gal that is working up in Comstock Park here. And when you look at the company she's working for, you're like, how is this not all complete collusion from the corporate side of this, economic corporate side of it? They're jumping into this and they have literally put their little puppets in the DNR. for corporate gain. And I've never seen any receipts. How do we, do we have any receipts on where the money is for the lumber they've cut, for the minerals that they've taken, for the nonsense they've done with Nestle and what happened with Ice Mountain up there is Nestle paid two hundred fifty dollars, I think, for a for a permit. And they've taken millions and millions of gallons of water out of this state. No benefit to we the people. They literally have stolen These things and everybody that's attached to the DNR and the economic players that be when you see the companies they work for, because we went through this in one of the past episodes. In detail, in detail, we went through this and you look at this. There's no two ways about it. It's an economic takeover by the public private partnerships that jumped in there to grab our resources and pretty much say, screw you, state of Michigan and all you people that are we the people supposed to be in charge. We don't care about you. Well, we know that land grabs are part of the process, but we do also know that the state of Michigan and or the federal government do not have the authority to own property. That's the right of the people. It's a criminal organization at this point. The government is criminal. The government is the enemy of the people right now. You have someone here right now that you can focus on. If you know who the director or head of the Department of Natural Resources is, if you know who he is, you can start by sending a three letter process, administrative process to him and explain your grievances. And if he doesn't respond, then that goes to court. But you gotta start somewhere and you gotta start with the administrative process to get him to correct his process. I think it's Karen Hoon. That she's usurping authority never granted. Not overreaching. There's no such thing as overreaching. There's no legal definition for it in the law books, in Black's Law Dictionary. This is a racing issue. Words that have been used for racing. It's Scott Brown. Overreaching another horse. This has nothing to do with government public functionaries. They're usurping authority never granted. And you gotta get the language right because usurpation is a violation, is criminal, and therefore those people need to be held accountable. But if you overreach, well, just slap them on the wrist and things will be fine. No, no, no, no. Scott Bowen. Okay, so Scott Bowen needs a letter Uh, a couple of certified letters, uh, notarized of course. So you can use them in court later. Uh, lottery. There we go. Well, lottery isn't to have anything to do with it, with DNR, unless it's connected somehow. Well, I'm just saying that they move these clowns around back and forth between different departments. They go in one department and another, and it's a shell game. Just like the Pope and the religious people when they find a preacher that's a pedophile, they move them to another region. And then he does his pedophile business all over again. So this is the same thing. They hire somebody that's a clown, yes, clown, to the system, and they can just shift them around and give them another job here and there. And he's a bar attorney for more than thirty years. The fact that he's a bar attorney makes him suspect to a bag of vomit. Yeah, that's kind of one of those things that I look at and go, okay, he just got checklists on the list for every big nope situation I can think of. Well, that's why a letter to him, again, it has to be certified. It has to explain that what he is doing is a usurpation of authority. It's not in the Constitution, especially if you've gotten both parts of the Constitution, you understand that. There's no authority for him in the Constitution to do what he's doing. Therefore, he's usurping authority never granted. Therefore, he's violating his oath of office. You've got a whole bunch of things that you can go after him for in a lawsuit. Charge him millions of dollars for his violations of the law. Well, and the legislature is supposed to know the projects before they, and approve them before they do them. And they just don't do that. They have literally ran right past all of this and are doing it. The legislature in Michigan is the most useless organization we ever have established. They're worse than the executive branch and they're worse than the judicial branch because they do nothing. Nothing. Have you ever heard of the unitary executive theory? No. All right. I think this is what President Trump's doing. I read it yesterday, but I wanted to read it to you. It's a constitutional interpretation that posits all executive power is vested in the president of the United States. Absolutely. And I think that this is what president Trump is actually doing when I look at what he's doing. And I talked to a few people that are clearly smarter than me, which is good. You know, you always want to be the dumbest person in the room because then you've surrounded yourself. So it includes centralization of power and argues that the president has the authority to control the entire executive branch, meaning federal agencies and departments that are under direct supervision and control of the president. Constitutional basis, proponents often cite Article II of the US Constitution, which states the executive power shall be vested in a president of the United States of America as the foundation of this theory. Implications for administration. This theory supports the idea that the president can remove executive branch officials at will, emphasizing the president's ability to direct policy and administration through those officials. Debates on checks and balances. Critics argue that this could undermine the system of checks and balances by reducing the independence of the federal agencies, potentially leading to abuses of power. Conversely, supporters believe it ensures accountability by making the president directly responsible for the actions of the executive branch. And the legal and political implication over time, the theory has influenced debates on issues like the appointment or removal of powers of the president, the independence of the agencies, like the Federal Reserve and the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau and the extent of presidential authority on national security and law. My interpretation of this is in fact, he is literally removing all of these NGOs, all of the survival one C three's ability to run the nation because they're running the nation right now. They have, they have usurped the authority of, of the, of the government as it was intended by the founders. That's right. Absolutely. And I don't see why he even has to do that. The Constitution gives him total authority to do that. He can hire and fire at will whoever he wants. He has a firewall. Just say, we're done. But he doesn't need a law to do that. It's in the Constitution. I'm joking, guys. I'm joking. You've got to go back to the original document. And for some reason, the public functionaries don't want to do that anymore. They want to come up with new laws, new rules, new regulations. We don't need that. We don't need that. We just go back to the original Constitution and follow what it says. And that's what it says. It says that he's totally responsible for the executive branch, and he is totally responsible. The buck stops with him. What president said that? I don't even remember. Buck stops here. Remember that? Yeah, I don't remember who said it. One of the presidents of the past. Truman or I don't know. There's wonderful quotes. You know, when I was in the National Archives in D.C. a few weeks ago, I was reading all the quotes from the founding fathers in there. And I was like, these gentlemen were absolutely brilliant. Yes, they were. But they didn't have the quagmire that we have today. And the quagmire is the media, pretty much. And the ability for these public functionaries to think that they have more power than they do. It was Nixon who, and actually it was Kissinger, who decided that the president should be more powerful than he is. because Nixon had certain responsibilities and certain powers, and Kissinger wanted to go beyond those powers. And who was Kissinger? Kissinger was a criminal. He is an anti-American. He's the scum of the earth. He was a traitor to the Jews in Germany. And he had the ear of the president. Nixon. And Nixon did a lot of stupid things in office because he was following the stupidity of the people that were on his staff, such as President Trump did it in his first office. He listened to the senior executive branch who said, you can't do that. He should have fired the senior executive branch on the spot and said, you're not telling me how to run the country. Get out of here. And he didn't, but he should. Okay, this is like something I didn't even think of. It wasn't on my radar, but that should be something that needs to happen kind of like immediately as fired that senior executive services. Absolutely. I didn't even put that one together until you said it. They have no authority. They have no constitutional authority. They have no authority. They were just kind of developed just like the legislature passes a law that we can have a certain thing. It's not constitutional. They have no authority to do that. But we have a legislature that is totally a group of renegades just like Obama. They are all criminal for the most part. I don't know if anybody in the legislature that is the Senate and why do we have a Senate? That's another good question. We should have a single unicameral house where we have just the House of Representatives, but they put the Senate in kind of as a buffer. Why do we have a Senate in the United States? What's the purpose of that? Represent the state. Ah, but it doesn't, remember? It took that representation away when it developed, I don't remember what, the Nineteenth Amendment or Twentieth Amendment, when it said that the senators are being voted on by the general public. When it gave that authority to the public to vote on senators, it took the power away from the states. The whole purpose of the Senate was to do the bidding of the state. So we had two senators. Every state has two senators. So the senators could get together and do what the state wanted them to do. And if the state, if they didn't do what the state wanted them to do, then the executive branch or the legislature would say, come back, you're done, you're fired. We're going to put somebody else in your position to represent the state. So the executive branch could have removed the senators, too? Oh, on the spot. Really? Oh, yeah. Okay, that escaped me, too. That's good to know. But we changed it under Roosevelt. I believe it was under Roosevelt. Because Roosevelt couldn't get the senators to make an agreement because of this. then the states would walk and they wouldn't be there to vote. And so the president said, I'll fix you and we'll come up with a new amendment, which he did. And the legislature bought into that nonsense and gave the senators the authority to be elected by the public. But that's not what the Constitution was originally set up for. The senators had one function only, and that was to represent the state. And they were hired and fired based on the legislature and or executive branch of the state of Michigan or any other state to represent the state. If they chose not to do that, they're gone. That's it. What's really sad is that it just appears to me like none of these people are really fighting for the people. They're just fighting for power, and they're trying to keep themselves entrenched. And when you see the amount of money laundering that's gone on, I got to say that just watching what President Trump has been doing over the last week or so, just really inspiring. You know, he cut USAID. He kind of like put a stop to that. It should have been gone a long time ago, but boy. And then he also stopped payments to South Africa, tariffed Mexico, Canada, and China. You listen to people and they're going, oh, no, we've tariffed Canada. It's like, have you seen the tariffs that Canada has placed on the United States? And we just sit there and say, please keep punching us in the face. We love being punched in the face as America. You know, President Trump has kind of like turned that around. It's like, if you're going to tariff us, you're probably going to get tariffed. And we're not just going to sit here and let you punch us in the face. Well, the problem with our system of government, and it is a big problem, is that the people are not educated. The republic will only stand when we have an educated public. and the public is not educated through whatever, through bread and circuses that they all fall in and they don't pay attention to what's going on or their own life that they're chasing after a dollar to make, to bring food to the table. And what's causing all of this? What's causing all of this is the federal reserve system, is the money system, is the funny money system that we live in. is we gave the private bank an authority to print money and charge us interest for it. And by doing so, we gave them the ability to, whenever they wanted money to launder for their particular special projects, such as the, what was it, the AM, The one that Trump just defunded or the WHO or any of those other organizations. We gave them the authority. We didn't give them the authority. They took the authority, but we're not stopping them. The people have to do this, not the government. The government's not our friend. The government's never been our friend. Even Washington said it's not our friend. It's a fire that has to be, we have to have, but they're not, but it could be dangerous to us. It's the feeling of human beings of being power hungry, money hungry, greedy. and self-serving. And so guess who rises to the top of that in politics? It's the people that are the most greedy because either A, they're not smart enough to work or produce a product, or B, they don't have the integrity to do the right thing. I mean, how many politicians have you seen in your life that actually were willing to stand up against all opposition or are they just willing to constantly make these concessions? And, you know, voting for the lesser of two evil is still evil. And if you still evil into things, you're part of the problem. So here is what Canada is currently imposing tariffs on the United States. Milk, two hundred and seventy percent. Let them do it. two hundred forty five percent butter two ninety eight percent poultry two thirty eight percent fish one hundred tobacco one hundred consumer goods thirty lumber twenty cars twenty five steel twenty five aluminum forty five and anybody says that oh poor canada we shouldn't be terrifying canada are you kidding me well the problem with canada is we don't need canada No, we don't. What's that? We really don't need cameras. I've got this hair thing going on here. It happens all the time. Looks like from here. I've got this crazy hair thing going on. I've got the crazy hair. Yeah, you've got crazy hair. I look like a long-haired cat that's been severely licked by its mother most of the time. By the way, it's the... It's the... It's the... It's the... It's the... It's the... It's the... during the, it was ratified in . Interesting, in it was brought on board. What happened in ? Federal Reserve. That's right. So this was passed by Congress May and ratified April to change the amendment so the senators of the United States can be voted on by the general masses of the public. So did the Federal Reserve have anything to do with this? Did those people... did you ever read Creature from Jekyll Island? I've watched some videos on it and such, but I haven't read the book. That's an eye-opener in itself. And people that are listening to our broadcast should be finding that book if they don't have it and read it. There's also, I think there's a video on it. video is obviously not as good as the book itself but the creature from jekyll island brings in the federal reserve these guys these criminals and I don't remember their names off the top of my head uh all met in secrecy and went to jekyll island to develop the federal reserve banking system and we bought into all of that crap And it was even the president, I think it was Truman, or Woodrow Wilson, one of them, on his deathbed says, I did a very bad thing in my presidency. I took a great industrial country and turned it into a third world country. He knew back then what he did wrong. And that was Truman? It was either Truman or Woodrow Wilson. I don't remember. Woodrow Wilson, isn't it? His name pops up a lot in regard to this. Who? Woodrow Wilson. Could have been Wilson. I'd have to do a little more looking into that again because, you know, so many pieces of information to keep straight and keep organized. But you do know that if you haven't read creature from deckle island you really need to understand who the federal reserve is what they are and how diabolical they are they want they want world order they want to they want us in the green uh scam they want us to have the cbdc the central bank digital currency they want total control of the public they want us in these fifteen minute cities which uh are You don't have to go anywhere but fifteen minutes from your place. You have your stores and everything in your one area. They want you in electric cars so they can limit your travel. They want you out of the farms and out of the rural areas and into suburban, into these cubicles in the fifty-minute cities. And people need to wake up. This stuff is coming. Fortunately, we have stopped it for a while. Trump has stopped it. But this is not going away. It's just the fact that Trump is over there ending this stuff doesn't mean that they won't come back. And the public needs to be aware that this is where they want to go. Uh, the, the. Was what? Twenty, twenty, twenty, twenty one at original. Now it's twenty thirty. They just moved the date, but they're still in the same process, trying to do the same thing, trying to take total control of the public. Will they do it? Depends upon the people. It's all depends upon the people. I've got a comment on that, on that, on that, on that. Does it seem to you like they're just moving the date so that we are asleep to the fact that it's already here? I don't think it's here. I think they're doing everything they can to bring it here. I don't think it's here yet. I know that they don't have the central bank digital currency. Trump is talking about gold and Bitcoin to stop that. Will it stop it? Yeah, I think it will, but it might be a temporary fix until the evil people get back on their feet again if we don't destroy the, if we don't annihilate those people right now and get rid of them. Yeah, that's the key right there is that we've got to clean house radically. David said Woodrow Wilson was president during the passage of the Federal Reserve. There you go. Curtis said, let's see, other states. Curtis got all kinds of comments here. The globalist agenda is to continue usurping local control for centralized control, allows for easier implementation of a more global control. What happens when the Senate has more power than the representatives, is a question mark, or the state interests having more authority than the people's interests. Around that time, John D. Rockefeller took over science and medicine. Another was, let's see, Aether was also removed. from the periodical table of elements. This also controlled the college curriculum. There's all sorts of things that have been manipulated around us. And it's been going on for a very slow process. Well, look at the table, the food pyramid and such. We're looking to the government to be an expert on anything. I'm going to tell you what. They got that so screwed up it's not even funny. You want to eat the food pyramid that they have? You're going to be overweight. Your brain is going to be slow. This isn't the way that people need to eat. And just for comic relief here, the black line around the food pyramid, you know what that is? Coffee and chocolate, it holds the rest of it all together. I figured that out years ago. Coffee and chocolate, you can live through anything. Cheers. Well, this is the problem that we're having. And fortunately, you're talking to a lot of bright people out there. That's part of your group. But we need more people. We need more people listening. We need more people waking up. Some people are because they're finding that they're getting into some hot water by the government. Government's leaning on them. They don't like that, finally, that the government is doing what they're doing. And so some of them are waking up. But a lot of them, you know, when you... When you live sixty years in your life and you don't do anything and you don't learn anything, and then all of a sudden it starts caving in on you, it's like, which way do I go? It's like you got this big elephant and you're trying to eat this elephant in one bite. You gotta know how to segregate or divide it up and take little bits and pieces of it and take it on that way, take the battle on that way. don't you don't go after all the judges or all of the bureau rats you go after the selected group you pick your battles and you do your and you do your war uh but the general public is you know I work all day long I'm tired I don't want to listen to the news I don't I don't want to do any studying. I don't want to read any things. I just want to watch the football game or whatever game is on at the moment or as the stomach turns or some of the other sitcoms that are out there. So this is the problem that we have. The people haven't learned this in high school and hasn't been drummed into their minds in junior high and elementary. And now they're at sixty in their life and they don't have any clue what's going on. They don't know. You know what? And this was all by design to disable people, to make them feel helpless and really helpless through the education system, which sounds like President Trump is getting ready to tear apart the NEA, which should have been done a long time ago, too. And that came through from Carter, just like the Department of Energy came through from Carter. He's getting ready to tear these things down. I'm loving this. This is great. We need to have little smoldering black piles of ashes that are unrecognizable for the departments that we have right now, in my opinion. So, you know, with all of this, the people have been groomed to have this mindset not to speak up, not to cause any waves. to be afraid and to feel so helpless because the problem seems so large that they don't act. What did your parents used to tell you? You never talk about government? Politics or religion? Oh, my dad was so far past that. You always talked about those things. Yeah, my dad was always the first one in there. Well, you want to know. And then he'd start beating on the Trilateral Commission and everything else. He never backed away from a fight. My dad didn't. He was funny, too. You know, he was really a funny guy. So, no, I didn't have that same experience growing up. A lot of people have. clearly talk about religion you never talk about politics when you're in family gatherings that's when you are supposed to talk about it yeah we did everybody drummed into our minds for years And then the other thing is, is that when you go into a conversation, the problem that I see a lot of people have is they're listening for response. They're listening to something that they can just go, you know, no. And they argue. They'll start right off with an argument to defend their position. Well, that's what the education system has done. It has taught us that we know everything. So because the educators told us so, right, and not to question anything. Right. so then people go into these discussions knowing everything and they don't listen and the biggest part of the problem is you got to listen to people you disagree with that that's probably one of the smartest things that we can do and say nothing don't respond and just listen to it and ponder it because there might be a nugget of truth in there that we just don't know you know And I think that that starts. But we need to give everybody a job today. So they don't know what to do. And you want to help pass on Brandenburg News Network and pass the link on to some people so that they can come and listen to either this show or other shows. John and I have been doing this now for about a year and a half. And on Tuesdays, I was talking to... And Wednesday nights. But I mean, just right here, it's been you and I for almost a year and a half, almost every Tuesday. And talk about commitment. You know, I got the Ethiopian Bible. I decided to buy that because I was curious. Considered probably the oldest, most reliable source. I had no experience with this, but I picked it up. I got it in yesterday. I picked it up and I started thumbing through it. One of the books that I was really interested in because I've read the book of Enoch before. And so I went to the book of Enoch to see what it looked like in there. And you know what really struck me in that book was commitment, commitment, work and commitment. over and over again in the first bit of the book. And it was, you know, the unwaveringness that you don't just quit when things get tough or the, you know, you're getting, you're taking on, you know, you're taking on, say, I don't know, all of this flack from the enemy. That's exactly where you need to kick it in, not stop, right? And I think that that has been pretty clear from at least our commitment from staying here every Tuesday, talking about the constitution and going back to the foundation. And I've learned so much from you. It's incredible. I mean, you're a great teacher and, you know, and I, and I like the correction too. If I don't know, I don't know what I don't know. And you don't, you don't get better unless somebody cares enough to tell you, well, let's look at this a little bit or doing a John Tater. You're wrong. You know, and, hilarious so you're absolutely hilarious well well the the problem is the problem is again It's a situation where we the people have to understand what's going on. We're supposed to be the government, self-governing, self-executing, self-behavior, self-reliant. We are supposed to be our own governor and our own government and run our own lives. The government that's involved in power that we put there have functions to deal with. They deal with certain functions that we don't have the time to deal with. And that's the way the government was set up back in the day where we the people had the power. But we gave that up a long time ago and we've been giving it up As time goes on, we gave up the right to get on an airplane without getting almost strip searched, which now we have to do in order to get on an airplane or have to have a special driver's license or you have to have a driver's license. Remember, driving is a commercial entity, commercial process. And where I don't drive, I travel. I don't have any commercial issues going anywhere. I'm not hiring for transporting public or goods and services. So I'm traveling. Everywhere I go, I travel. But we've been ingrained in this process that we are driving a car. And when we get into this process of driving, we become part of a commercial entity and we are then under the control of commerce, under the department of driving, under the department of motor transportation. That we are drivers, we are commercial vehicles, commercial work. And therefore they can control us, our speed, stopping at a red light you'd be stupid not to stop at a red light but if for some reason you went through a red light by mistake and you got away with it uh that's not a criminal offense and you should not be ticketed for it should be warned maybe maybe the police should be out there saying hey you know you just went through a red light I'm warning you if you do that again it could be there could be consequences but they have no real authority to ticket you for that because they can only ticket people in commerce truck drivers uh taxi drivers uber drivers etc etc but that's part of the problem and we didn't get that we we followed and I did too as a kid hey the greatest thing in the world was to get my driver's license because I didn't know any better because my parents didn't know any better and so same with uh my builder's license when I got a builder's I went out and got a builder's license what the heck for government has no authority to regulate my abilities to work. They can put it out as a volunteer situation. You go and you take a test and therefore you can have a builder's license and you can show the public that you got a license to build. But that in itself, they have no authority to stop me from doing that because the government has no authority to stop me from making a living, but they do it all the time. do well and it's just like all of the rules and regulations and such so if somebody wants to hire someone who has those special qualifications they should be able to make their own choices whether they hire somebody with those qualifications or without that's right good opinion and and so if you feel like you need more oversight or you want somebody to say yes they've been through certain trainings because you have a personal conviction on it, that's perfect. But if you don't, I don't think you should have to. And if there's somebody out there that's polluting, let's just take, for example, say like, you know, lead-based paint training and such, or whatever to handle those materials which are impregnant to the environment. I honestly think you should be able to do it without those certifications. And if somebody screws up and pollutes the environment, well, guess what? We go after them individually for doing the wrong thing and polluting. You know, that's, You go after the individuals. Make them have the responsibility on themselves. That brings me to this point. When you go after the DNR, you go after the individual, the director of the DNR. Scotty boy there. Yeah, you go after him. You start with the three letters, telling him what he's doing wrong, that he's usurping authority, violating his oath of office. and that he has to get in line with what the Constitution states. And if he doesn't, then you will seek your remedy in a court of competent jurisdiction, which means you're going to sue his butt. You don't have to say sue his butt, but you got to let him know that he's going to be sued. And so you just do it in a different format and a different way. Yes, you go after this guy individually. You don't go after the DNR because that's not going to help. You don't go after Whitmer because she doesn't have any authority. She does, but she's not exercising it. I mean, eventually you can go after Whitmer down the line. That's the executive who's supposed to have control of the executive branch, bringing it back to President Trump. He can hire and fire anybody in the executive branch at will. The governors need to do the same thing. The only one that can remedy this in the state of Michigan, in my opinion, is the governor's office. Because that's the one that's going to, unfortunately, be the only one that wields enough power to bring this thing back into the structure it was supposed to be into or in from the beginning. Well, she has the power to fire Scotty Boyd. Right, but there's the point is that... Yeah, you can't do that. But then again, Nestle should be saying, hey, Whitmer, I'm the AG, and what he's doing is totally in violation of the law. But she's dumb as the... She's as dumb as a box of rocks. She doesn't know what's going on. I'm not sure she's as dumb as she is diabolical. I mean, it was between... Her and her wife, her and her wife that paid over a million dollars to the signature gatherers in the twenty twenty two election that that, you know, that nicked me and and such. And but but their signatures were fine and fantastic. Then that was never questioned. But boy, they went after they went after Donna Brandenburg. Got to get rid of Donna Brandenburg. She might just tell the truth. Wouldn't that be just horrible? Hmm. Well, they played a lot of games with me when I ran, too. I really wish you would have won. If you would have won, I would never have had to step into this arena, and I could have just skipped you off and lived my life, you know? You failed me. I did my best I was on many broadcasts uh of course they were all rigged against me of course but that's the you know I was in the game I needed to see what would happen then and I did fight the battle did did my best so it didn't work out and the state from the state is like oh no we've got to vote with the polls because the polls the polls are telling us what's going on yeah I got eighteen thousand signatures and only ended up with six thousand votes yeah I know I had I had that work yeah that you know that's a good point I turned in to twenty seven five And none of this makes sense. And I'm going to make a prediction this morning because I've got a few people that are on my shit list, you know, people that I really don't have any faith that maybe that they're doing what they should be. Or the only explanation to this is maybe they're a good guy playing a bad guy, but they're bad guys at face value. I'm going to make a guess and say, because I was yesterday, I made a guess that Scott Greenlee was going to step out of the race for Republican chair. And I made the prediction. And while we're online, his letter comes across that says Scott Grimley just, just stepped down and is now going to be, you know, supporting Michonne Maddock. And Oh, by the way, he's on his way to DC swamp, swamp rat alert. And, and so now I heard something that Sean Maddock was talking about appointing somebody as co-chair who's family oriented, has a lot of kids, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And I'm like, hmm, who would that be? Somebody that was in the swamp from the beginning that was part of her little Sean Maddock electioneering that was going on in twenty twenty one, twenty two. I'm going to say it might be Kelly. And, you know, the half of the Flirt Boys, Kelly and Soldano, we'll have to see if that happens or not. You know, that was the Flirt Fest in Michigan with Soldano, Kelly, and Tudor Dixon. You can pretty much judge IQ by the people that were like, oh, how you doing? That sort of thing. And I'm like, I'm nauseated by this. It's like hiring people on a popularity contest to manage our largest asset because... you like them. What a low IQ function, I couldn't believe. So let's just see if she appoints Kelly as the co-chair because if she does, I got a lot to say about this because he never contested the election. In one of the counties, he had more donors than he had votes and he never stopped to fight it. How's that working for you people? This is Kelly. I ran into Kelly a few times, had a few sit downs with him, invited him to our group. Yeah, you're right. He's the negative side of what a politician is. Well, and he kept telling people, hey, you need to go to the polls arm. Make sure you're carrying your firearm into these polls and such. And I'm like going, all right, people, I'm going to help you assess this. This is a politician that's trying to have you do something that you're going to get in trouble for. And he's going to walk away and laugh at you when you get arrested for bringing a firearm into school. Cause a lot of the, a lot of it's illegal at this point. Carry it in. So if we're just going to go in there on a rampage and get ourselves arrested, that's in the dumb person category right there. We need to go at this from a lawful perspective and say and attack the unconstitutional laws and those who put them in place in a lawful manner, not doing stupid stuff that stupid politicians tell you to do just so they can get their names in the news media, which is complicit as hell in all of this. I think that was pretty clear. Yes. It's pretty clear. It is. I try to make things clear. I don't always, but you know. I think we need to get a shirt. We need to get shirts that say, don't be that dumb guy. Maybe you ought to have put a couple of shirts together and see if you can use that to raise your revenue. Oh, I don't have any revenue. Maybe I should look at revenue because nobody seems to want to get out there and work. You pay people all day long, but nobody wants to. They're running their mouths full time. But they will not jump on an issue to help fight this thing. They're not committed enough. They'll go to the coffees. They'll have the cookies. They seem to know everything and they know everybody. But when it comes to work, almost nobody is willing to sit there and actually get work done. They want this to be a social club. Well, we're going to get what we get if we get people that aren't willing to do something and actually put their time, their treasure, their sacred honor forward to work with people to fix it. No, everybody sees this as, hey, I can make a buck off of this. Well, you know what? You're no different than the politicians that are in these seats right now. If you look at it that way, you just condemned yourself to sitting with the traitors. And I feel strongly about that. Every single one of us should be out there working. And I mean working, not trying to make a buck off of writing the United States, but getting in there to fight to take it back. Because if we don't, not only have we lost our honor, we're losing the United States. Yeah, well, that's more important is we're losing our country. We're losing our country because of greed. agreed mostly because of the World Bank, which is trying to help us lose our country and the public functionaries that are being put in those positions, put in those positions so they could do the bidding of the banking system. It's almost down to the money laundering nonsense that's been going on for the last four years under Biden and his regime. And we need to get out of that. Trump was trying to do that. Trump was trying to make that happen. But we the people need to be doing our part to make it happen. Okay, so homework. I think everybody, I'm going to ask everybody, let's go ahead and do something today. If everybody can pass the links on to this show or other shows or which other ones you like so that we can get more people watching so we can help educate people, that would be a huge help. Oh, yeah. The next thing is I would love to see some people. I'm willing to file lawsuits all over the place, but I need some help. And I mean, I need not to be paying everybody, but I need some help. I need some people coming forward that were willing to help with this effort and watch the cases and answer and do the briefs and the motions and such, because we need to do this as a group of people and train people along the way. I need some help with this. Where would you learn that information? You would learn this here on the Wednesday night. You could learn it on the Wednesday night. You could learn it on the Wednesday night because we do cover that stuff. But I need some people that are willing to help with it. That's what I need. Because to do it, the problem we have is that we have intelligent people that know the law and are able to put things together. that were willing to work on this, not just, not just show up to get the information, but actually put it into practical use. Anybody out there that wants to help with this, that's willing to help me. I want you to call me at six one six four three zero four four one zero. Call me because I'm looking for people that are actually not sitting there with their hands out, but say, I'll help you. And we'll, we'll get this thing done. That's what I'm looking for because I'm willing to file the cases and I can talk. So, I mean, sometimes too much, but I mean, it's like we can get in front of these people and we can represent ourselves. And if we get a whole bunch of us doing this, we would change the United States of America and it would be quick. That's right. That's right. We need to get the people involved. The people need to get together and Trump can't do it. Trump's doing his part, taking care of Washington. We need to take care of Michigan. We need to take care of our local governments, our, our local, uh, boards of people that we put in office in the local level, local governors and mayors and whatnot. We need to have control over those people. If we start turning that around, it'll work its way up to the top and it'll help Trump. If we just sit back and wait for Trump to do it from the top down, it may never happen or it'll take forever to happen. But we need to do, because the lower levels of government are where the criminality starts. It's rotten from the top to the bottom and from the bottom to the top. Otherwise it would never have happened. Yeah. And I think that that's the one thing we got to remember is that it's not, you know, I was thinking about this and talking to a couple of people yesterday after we got offline. to really address the situation. We have to realize that the cartels are the ones that were running Mexico. No way, no two ways about it. They were also, coming into the United States. And when you look at it, if they're in a, I don't know how many billions of dollars of drugs that they're running, drugs and human beings and such, but they're running a lot. Okay. If they pay for politicians and they spend two billion dollars to fund or pay for politicians to put them in place, that is a chip shot for them. That is chump change for them. And I think that if we actually had a transparency into what the dark money that is going to these candidates, top to bottom, even in the local races, somebody's getting paid off because their behavior follows a pattern. They all follow the same pattern. So, well, why don't you give yourself a plug here, John, on the Wednesday night thing, how they get a hold of you. Well, we have a Wednesday night Zoom this week for those of you that are out of state. By the way, we have people from New Mexico and somebody from California. And we have some hookups basically because of your program. They've listened to you, and they've come over and joined us on Wednesday nights, which is wonderful. But we don't have enough, and we need more people that are interested in and want to. And don't wait until the government taps you on the shoulder and says you have to do something. Learn the laws before that happens, because once that happens, then you're running around like a head with a chicken cut off, trying to figure out which way to go, and you can't do it. because you've got too much stuff coming in at you in all directions. You've got to be able to control that, what's coming in at you in order to fix it. So on Wednesday nights, we talk about Constitution. We talk about court cases. We give you the very important parts of the court cases that you really need to know. You don't have to read the whole court case. We kind of give you a – sometimes we read the court case if it's not – you know, a hundred pages long. And we go over specific areas. And the court cases that I send out from our group are all yellowed and marked. So really, all your work is done. You don't have to read and reinterpret the court case. All you have to do is get the court case, listen to what we have to say, make your own notes on it, and then you have it for that day that government taps you on the shoulder and wants something from you. And if you do that, you will be much more powerful. You will be not afraid of these alphabet organizations, and you'll be able to control what's going on and not have them control you, which is what they're trying to do. So Wednesday nights, we have a Zoom. If you want to get in touch with me, you can call me at seven three four nine six eight four seven one five or text me. Or you can go to the Magnificent Republic dot com and find our information there and how to get in contact with our Zoom Zooms on Wednesday nights and pick up some information that will be very powerful for you in the future. Make sure you send me the link this week. And this week I've got a little bit of time. So if I get the link, that's good. Maybe I'll show up there, too, on Wednesday. I have my email. So you probably I do spend it out. I've already sent it out for this week. So you should have it. OK, I'll check. So. All right. Well, thanks, John. And we'll be back in thirty seconds with Curtis Clark. And I will we'll be back on with Lawful Defense and John Tater next week, Tuesday. Same time, same place, same channel. Bye, everyone. Be right back. good morning welcome to the second hour brandenburg news network I am donna brandenburg and it is the fourth day of february twenty twenty five and welcome to our show I'm gonna bring on my next guest curtis clark right away hey curtis how you doing good how are you good really good we had a wonderful talk this morning and just uh just talking about all sorts of things and and I wanted to bring you on today and probably tomorrow two at ten o'clock so people can get to know you and here's some of the information I mean you've been posting on the channel for quite a while here and been reading your posts and they're very intelligent and knowledge that a lot, some knowledge that I don't have. So I always appreciate that. So today we talked about talking about the DNR some more and your perspective down here in Allegan County, correct? Yes. So what's happening down there and what are you seeing? I see a decimation of all of the, well, for one, the DNR, we have a lot of state land here in Allegan County. And they're clear-cutting quite a bit of it. And I know when I had some land, I've got some land that I had some trees harvested. And I didn't have that many trees. I had like a walnut grove. And I got like five, six thousand dollars. It wasn't even that many trees. I was really surprised. And when you go in the Allegan State Forest, there's so much land that's being clear-cut. It's unbelievable. And sometimes I stop and wonder, how did the DNR get control of so much land, which is in direct opposition of the Northwest Ordinance documents of seventeen eighty five and seventeen eighty seven. Where they convert unorganized territory to organized territory for the purposes, purposes of human habitation. It's the exact opposite. The other thing too is one of the campgrounds, Swan Creek Campground. I grew up, we went there almost every weekend, went camping. It was beautiful. They had a beach there, a campground. Place was filled. When I came back here to Michigan, they clear cut the whole park. the whole campground. And they left stumps and brush. You can't even use it anymore. They blocked the campground off. And there are so many trails that I grew up riding dirt bikes and taking four-wheel drives down these trails that's in the forest. And we grew up in that. Now half of them are blocked off. They've designated it for equestrian trails for horses, which I don't mind, but It's like we're being pushed off of the land incrementally, slowly. I remember there was a pond out in the woods that I used to go fishing, beautiful little pond. And when I got back from the military a number of years ago, I decided I want to go out there and do a little fishing. Well, the road was blocked off, so I parked my car, walked around the stumps that were put there, went back to where the pond was, and guess what? It wasn't there anymore. The DNR had filled it in with dirt. You're kidding. I am not kidding. I'm not kidding. We, I don't know if people understand what we're seeing. Those of us who've been traveling around and looking at stuff, but the state of Michigan is being destroyed by the DNR and those in government that are turning a blind eye to this. And you can't tell me that our legislature doesn't know what's going on here. You can't tell me that, you know, I wouldn't believe it. I'm not saying that to you. I'm saying that rhetorically, not to you personally. But it is a shame what's happening to this state. Yeah, yeah. And so I believe it's all part of the UN's Seventeen Sustainable Development Goals. They want to control everything, all land, all water, natural resources, everything. And the objective, these are long-term goals. Fifty, sixty or more year plans. Just like banks, when you get a mortgage, you got a thirty year loan. It's their long term contracts. And it wasn't that long ago that I think it was Biden that started talking about a thirty thirty plan. And all this is about is slowly getting more and more land, higher percentages of land that are off limits to human habitation. Well, that they want to talk about. Certainly it's taking them off land for the public, for we the people. But I can guarantee you they're on it. They're using it. They're pilfering it for resources, right? Oh, yeah. Absolutely. So these are the seventeen sustainable goals here by the UN. And I encourage everybody to get familiar with the UN Sustainable Development Goals and the synergy with the World Economic Forum to its partnerships to help get this all implemented. And they do it so slowly. You know, people, like if a person grew up in a communist nation, you're used to your environment. And a lot of times you're resistant to change. Well, if you grew up in an environment, it's hard to get out of something that you grew up in that you're used to. So when they do it incrementally like that, you're used to it. You don't think anything of it. So now these young kids growing up, They have no clue that we used to ride dirt bikes and go ride four-wheel trucks down these trails. And life was great. But it's gone now. You can't do it anymore. And it, what's really amazing to me, Curtis, is when you look at, say like whenever there's a deficit or something, or they can't pass a budget, they actually hold the, uh, we, the people hostage because they'll close things like, well, okay, then I guess we got to close the parks. We've got to close this, that, and the other thing, instead of closing the loop on the money laundering, that's leaving the state that there's no benefit. They actually put the people on punishment. Yeah. Yeah. The other thing that they use is, well, we don't have the funding to maintain the parks or whatever. They've got so much money. If you look at the budget, I was talking to, I can't remember who it was, but anyway, the budget for the state of Michigan increased so many millions of dollars. And for them to say, well, we can't, we don't have the funding to maintain a park. So they close it down. I don't buy it. I don't. No, I don't either. They've got plenty of money and it's going all to the corporate welfare. I mean, look at what they gave to Mary Barra for GM. They gave her, I think, is she GM or Ford? I think she's Ford and might be GM. I'm losing it here. Anyhow, they gave her eight hundred forty six million dollars for the promise of four thousand jobs. There was no accountability to this. The corporate welfare, the money that's going into these corporations is shocking. If we pulled that money back and had it going into small business that actually were locally owned, if we were going to help anyone, that would be the way to help. Not the big corporations, because they just pilfer everything that that we have. Oh, yeah. And it goes back to our energy independence. Consumers Energy had purchased the Elegant Dam, the Calkins Dam. I think it was nineteen sixty eight, sixty nine, right around there. And they got it for a song and a dance. I don't know the story behind it, what prompted Elegant to basically turn it over to the to consumers energy. But now over time, Consumers Energy has a parent company. I think it's CMS Energy or something like that. But if you go and find out who their main stockholders are, it's BlackRock, State Street, Vanguard, JPMorgan Chase. So now when we pay our electric bill, the average is twenty five hundred dollars per household per year. If you count a lot of households, Allegan County has one hundred twenty nine thousand people. Ottawa County has three hundred thousand people. That's a lot of money. And all we're doing, we're feeding the beast. And there's an alternative. Right now, we're really restricted, and it's easy for the state to usurp local control because we're general law counties. If we were to become home real counties where we take power back, we're more self-governing. Wow, somebody's calling. I'm really curious to learn more about the home rule counties, because I don't have a lot of knowledge in that. Heard about it, but I don't understand it. It's probably one of the biggest secrets. It's been so hard to find this information. And it all deals with charters, county constitutions. Back in the colonial days, the The main thing that we self-governed from was the cities had compacts and the townships and counties had charters. They were based on home rule because when the colonies started coming over here initially, they were given a charter where we had the ability to self-govern and develop our own form of local government. Well, now this deals with commerce. The King of England was saying, Okay, you guys are, you're becoming profitable. You're harvesting wood, starting to produce things. Now we want to retract the charter that we gave you. So one of the big things that people overlook, we know the Declaration of Independence, it's great, it's beautiful. But the most commonly overlooked part is the part where they list the usurpations What is it called? Grievances. Grievances. Thank you. Thank you. I need another cup of coffee. Yeah, I'm telling you what. That is the line that holds everything together. Every day. Twenty-five years in the Army, that's what our main thing was. We drank a lot of coffee. I can tell you what. It's like one of my favorite things on the whole planet. And I can drink a lot of it. You know, I get up in the morning and have a cup. And then when I sit down here, I'm nice and cozy in my chair. Drink some more coffee. But anyway, the British had a history of erasing history. The last nail in the coffin was the burning of the Library of Congress in eighteen fourteen. And before that, they were retracting churners. And I read some old books where in the seventeen sixties and the seventeen seventies, you know back then and the colonies the townships counties and the cities had charters and the British were taking them back because they didn't want that form of common law self-governance they didn't have any control so you can you can actually go to an the declaration of independence and start reading those lists of grievances. And I think they're one of the most overlooked aspects of the declaration of independence because nobody talks about it. Nobody researches it. And what we have today is a wow. It's not even close to what they, what the founding fathers and colonists had created as far as local governance. Okay. In, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, in, The Continental Congress didn't just invent it. They based it off of what they had for generations and what worked, and they wanted to get back to it because they didn't want a sovereign king halfway around the world, you know, having control of this. So it stands to reason if we're going to be self-governing and we have the inherent right to self-determination, that's a key phrase, self-determination, we have the right to home rule. If we don't have that right, then what we're stuck with is a sovereign king or sovereign governor and a sovereign king as a president. That's not what they wanted. The Founding Fathers hated the idea of centralized governance because they knew that eventually they'll take over and usurp all local control, which is basically what has happened. We don't even know what the original... form of well we can try to put pieces of the puzzle together and try to figure it out what the old common law uh self-governance framework look like and I think we have to revisit the declaration of independence and the northwest ordinance documents well I'm I'm looking it up right now I'm trying to flash it up here but I'm having a not not finding good uh good resources for it right now while I'm online but Yeah, and honestly, everything that they had as a grievance back then is true today. I don't think they've really changed things that much. I mean, it's just they've done it in different ways, and they've used a lot of unconstitutional or treaties that have usurped our nation. I mean, that's another thing that we could really add to it and really need to highlight because the treaties and all of these agreements on the outside of our country is undermining our national sovereignty. Yeah. Honestly. When the Founding Fathers created the U.S. Constitution, we only, they were only, the federal level government, they called it the national government back then, but they were only granted certain powers. And the federal government was to control those certain powers. One of them was much like what the UN is structured today. An attack on one member nation state is an attack on all. And all these certain powers that were given, the rest was reserved to the state or we the people. Well, there wasn't really a state government Back then, you had the colonies and they had a governor that was appointed when the British were over here. And that was the form of a sovereign king. Again, we wanted to get away from centralized government and a king-like figure. That's why we, the people, are the sovereign, but we're only the sovereign in our territorial jurisdiction in where in the county that we reside, because the county clerk records that in the county courthouse, and that makes you the shareholder of the county. If we're no longer landowners or homeowners, we're not shareholders. We're just debt slaves, trespassers, somebody else's land. We have no rights, basically. And if they can get to that goal, of making it so that eventually we can't even afford to own our own property, our own homes. They've achieved that goal. So that's really the goal there is to, is to go back to that premise that, that you have no standing if you have no land. So they're grabbing the land. Yep. Okay. Well, that's, That's something we need to educate everybody on because seeing the land grabs is pretty, it's right in our faces. I mean, look at all that they've done with Hurricane Helene, North Carolina, LA fires, Lahaina, all of them. And now the DNR with four point six million acres here in Michigan. We need to really, really put them in check because this is this is going in a bad direction. And if you think the way think of the way the general law counties are structured today, First, I've got to say this. Before Michigan was even a state, it was Wayne County. All of Michigan was a county. For fifty years, the main form of government in these territories were counties, and that was for law and order, the sheriff and the court. And the way general law is set up today, general law counties are Yeah, we elect the County clerk and we elect the County commissioners, but that's more of an illusion, uh, that we're in control. But if you think about it, the actual people that's in control, because all your counties and everything, they're set up as a corporation and the corporations have a CEO and they have board members committees. But we don't know anything about them or what they're doing. The county administrator or county executive under general law, we don't elect them. They're basically chosen. And then they have their own committees. Look at zoning committees. If you think of zoning and taxes and all that, is that something that we the people would embrace upon us? Yeah, pretty much not. No. And the counties are getting their marching orders. There's a book that the townships, well, not the townships, they have their own book, but the county commissioners, they have a book. It's by Michigan State University Extension. And we know that the colleges have been infiltrated. And if these communists can get into the colleges and then create the manual on how we run our corporation or county, you can see it wouldn't be that hard to usurp and achieve these sustainable development goals through zoning, zoning committees, you name it. The biggest thing we can do right now, I know Carla Wagner is doing the Ask My Tax, but that's to eliminate all property tax. Yeah, I'm not a fan of that. We've gone through that plan here plenty of times. And I don't think that it's well thought out. And she would not answer questions to the taxpayers party that we asked her. So I've kind of like knocked that right off the radar there. Though that we need to do it, that's not, in my opinion, it's not the correct way to do that. And she would answer that. Yeah, sorry. I think the best thing we can do is focus on the primary homeowners being tax exempt. If somebody is coming into our counties, our state, if they're big corporations from out of state, global corporations, people from other countries, that is when we should tax because they're on our territory, they're in our land. I have no problem taxing a big corporation or somebody that has high-density housing, corporately-owned, government-controlled, high-density housing. If you want to tax them, be my guest, but not primary homeowners. Because that goes against life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness. So you're owning your own property, your own land, where you are the king. You are the sovereign in your county. That should be our main focus is increasing the amount of the percentage of land that's dedicated for human habitation, primary homeowners. And I think that will change things around. Yeah, I think there's a lot we have to learn in all of this, which I really appreciate. You know, you're coming on here and talking about this. And Curse is going to be on again tomorrow at ten o'clock. So that'll that'll be fun and give us some more time to explore this issue. And so usually I end the show with a prayer. So I thought we would have a little bit shorter show today. We talked about that before you came on just so that we could introduce the topic. and then we will go ahead and talk more about it tomorrow. I'm going to say a prayer, and then I'll give you a few minutes to close, and then we'll see you tomorrow, okay? Okay, sounds good. Dear Heavenly Father, thank you so much for all the wonderful people that you brought forward to share with us and help share their knowledge so that we can understand how this nation is supposed to be run as one nation under you. We love you so much, and we're so thankful for everything you do for us every day. We ask that you would continue to bring forward truth and purpose, giving us a clear path on what we should do, not only overall, but on our daily walk with you. And also having a relationship with you, listening to you every step of the way and knowing that, you know, I've been listening a lot about frequency and about the universe bringing things to us and such. And you know what? I I know that you know you are a person and that we worship you we don't worship creation and this is a problem that a lot of a lot of people through history have fallen into that trap but the end of the day we're standing here with you and I'm thankful for the relationship that we have with you and for your Savior, Jesus Christ, our Lord. It's just such an honor. It's an honor to be here for all of us who you've called to be here as brothers and sisters at this time to live in. And I ask that anyone out there that's having some struggles, that's maybe a little depressed or dealing with some health issues, I ask that you would come near to them and help them in all of their struggles. One thing that I really appreciate is always being able to turn to you no matter what, No matter when, no matter whether it's a good day or a bad day, we can always go to you and thank you for what we have and learn to be more like you. Consistent, hardworking, unmovable, and unwavering in our pursuits of restoring this nation, this world as one nation under you. Thank you so much for being such a good friend to us. And we want to be a friend to you too. In the name of Jesus Christ, we pray. Amen. Amen. So there you go. So any other words here, Curtis? And then we're going to continue this discussion tomorrow. You know, I would love for you to form a think tank of like-minded people and plant these seeds and see where it grows. That's the biggest thing. I would love to form a think tank. You have met so many incredible people around this country. And if everybody was to get together and have discussions, because when one person says something and all of a sudden the next person hears it and all of a sudden this light bulb goes off, it opens thinking. And that's the biggest gift God gave us for freedom is the ability to dream and think. Yeah. So that's my suggestion. That's a great idea. It's all fun. And I love getting together with people and hearing ideas. And just as you said, you kind of bounce things back and forth and it just gets better and better. So boys and girls, here we go to that part of the show because I'm still contesting the twenty twenty two election where we go to. Please go to for governor dot com because I'm the best non-conceiver who's ever conceded in the history of the United States of America. And I'd like to have a discussion with the rightful president of the United States, President Donald J. Trump in cowboy boots. We'll see who wears them better. I think it's going to be me. So just a guess. So with that said, go out and have a great day today. Remember that no matter what is in our path, we're kind of on an adventure. We're on a quest right now. We're learning as we go. And that's okay. It's okay to change your mind. It's okay to get more information. And it's not that we're wrong. It's that we're learning more. As children of God, it doesn't mean we are God. We're children of God. We're learning. We're in process. We're a work in process. And you know what? The person that's directing this work is God Almighty. It's not ourselves. It's not our neighbor. It's not our families. It's God Almighty. So listen to his voice and he will be telling you exactly what to do to get yourself out of trouble because we create most of our own troubles. And as well as just to see what we need to do to right this nation, right our families. that our health concerns and all of these things that we have to deal with on a daily basis. We're getting stronger. We're getting smarter every day. And that's a wonderful thing. So with that said, God bless you all. God bless all those whom you love and God bless America. Make it a great day. It's a choice to be resilient in our days and to continue to walk forward with strength, unwavering, With all the qualities of God, it's a choice. So stay on the line, Curtis, and we'll talk when we get off here. Have a great day and I'll see you tomorrow.