Published July 24, 2024, 9:01 a.m.
9am Bill Mohr II, Karen the Riveter, & Ralph the IT Guy will be discussing true liberty and the principles the Founding Fathers intended. Also we will be discussing the role of religion in government. The Mohr family has a long history in the study of the Constitution and lawful self governance. We will be teaching current issues and apply the Constitution for guidance. 10am Cyber Attack Crisis & Election Compromise Exposed - Robert Terry. The only individual in the history of U.S. information technology (IT), who designed, patented and personally developed (wrote 100% of the proprietary source code) that comprised the software cybersecurity solution deployed throughout the White House Executive Office of the President (EoP), (2001-2008), which was also utilized by the CIA who managed the Weapons of Mass Destruction (WMD) Commission (2001-2006). Based the principles of the HUMAN IMMUNE SYTEM, and never required anti-virus updates. Featured in Federal Computer Week Magazine and PC World Magazine. The FCW magazine article CONFIRMS that the White House solution worked so well that it “caused a fight” to emerge between the USGOV offensive groups who attack networks, and the defensive group who defends networks. (Please read the last 3 paragraphs of the FCW article) Worked side-by-side with the former Senior Security Program Manager of Microsoft worldwide (Dr John Michener), who reported to Bill Gates. Featured in Computer World Magazine. Upon the defection of Edward Snowden in 2013, the CIA Wikileaks that began in 2014/2017, and the stolen NSA tools in 2016, have been studying all leaked top secret documentation that specifically discusses offensive programming methods/communication techniques in order to target, penetrate, circumvent/bypass network defense/detection technologies. X/Twitter: https://x.com/i/broadcasts/1OdKrXrbDplJX Rumble: https://rumble.com/v588cfv-bnn-brandenburg-news-network-7242024-liberty-essentials-and-cyber-attack-cr.html https://rumble.com/v588ca5-bnn-brandenburg-news-network-7242024-liberty-essentials-and-cyber-attack-cr.html
Good morning and welcome to Brandenburg News Network. I am Donna Brandenburg. And it is the 24th day of July 2024. I'm so glad you're here today. We're having a great, great, beautiful day in West Michigan. And I'm going to bring everybody on right now for Liberty Essentials. Second hour is Bob Terry. Now, we've all been watching the crowd strike and all of the cyber attacks that we've had. I'm sure that Ralph will be able to talk about this some, too. But Bob really is the one who was bringing forward all the information way ahead of time. And he's got a lot more information than that. So it's going to be pretty fun to listen to what he has to say here in the second hour at 10 o'clock. But right now I'm bringing on our Liberty Essentials people and team, Bill Moore, Karen the Riveter, and Ralph, the IT guy. How are you guys doing? Hey, good morning. Good morning. Good morning. So what's happening in everybody's world right now? Boy, what do we have? We have a wild couple of days amongst some of us, and the common workforce is always pushing and pushing. I don't know how it is with everybody else, but this is a time of season where we are just rocking from morning till dusk, and then coming home and continuing the fight in the political arena as well. So it's tiring, but we all got to step up and do something about it, right? It's been pretty intense, but it's my opinion on all of it, you know, all of it is that when things get tough, that's when you get in and you really have to fight a little harder because about the time that you're going to give up or about the time you're ready to lay down from exhaustion is about the time you're going to win the battle. And so... You know, and what is this? Like the 80-20 rule, 20% of the world does 80% of the work. And that's really proving to be true. And then the world hands you a curve ball on top of it, which I think that we're going to need to talk about some of this this morning on what's coming up here. So I want to invite, before we start, I want to invite everybody to our convention this weekend. If you want to hang out with everyday Americans, Real people who question everything aren't afraid to take on an unbelievably difficult task and are willing to fight for the United States of America without being in a very large cult type situation. um organization which is bought and paid for by the neocons on and they're controlling both sides so there you go if you want something that's purely purely done on raw force not money and but but people working together for a goal you're gonna find it here okay that's the way it is we're not we're not interested in the money you want We want our country back. That's it. And we don't go begging for money, but we sure have a lot of people begging us for money. And I've got a gripe about this right now. But, you know, it's just seemed it seems like everybody's using the political system to try to fund their pet projects or to to. besides funding their pet projects, to self-enrich in some form or another. And I'm not always sure which side of the aisle people come down on that, but it's happening all the time. And we see it because we don't run on money. The minor parties, our minor party does not run on money. We run on people actually giving a crap, stepping up, willing to do work. And if we have to do it ourselves, then so help me, we're going to do it ourselves, which is what we end up doing a lot of times and all of us are so overworked. And I'm going to explain why this is important to me. And then I'll let you guys expand on this because Donna's got an ornery moment again this morning. Okay. And then you're going to find out why in a minute. I think that the most important reason for me to make sure that the Constitution Party is on the ballot is because I believe we're watching the destruction of the old guard systems. And there are some people that are stepping up. But if you go to a political party, a convention such as I did, And it's one great big rah-rah, let's drink, let's eat, let's cheer every time the camera comes past. My question is this, what are you going to do when you get home? Are you going to keep going to these ridiculous bitch session coffee clubs where you sit there and you bitch about how bad things are and then nobody does anything? Or are you actually going to stop up and do anything? Well, there's no reason to hang out with us if you want to have expensive food or drink or anything like that because we don't have the money to fund that sort of thing. We try to put it into helping keep our party on the map and on the grid, which I think is important. And I think we need to have that third party doesn't always have to win, but we're a great disruptor. And if things go catastrophically wrong with the other parties, if we don't have more choices, we're all screwed. All right? That's the way it is. It's like if we don't have choices and we only have the two parties, which are being funded by... the same people right now. And I think you can see where that is. It's coming right straight from Grand Rapids. I've been talking about it a lot. Grand Rapids, Michigan is the head of the snake. If you haven't got that figured out yet, tune into my Telegram channel because I'm talking extensively about this. and what's happened here. And when you look at JD Vance, he is absolutely the tie and the nod to the CIA, Mossad, GCHQ, as well as the Aspen Institute, which, oh, by the way, I believe Betsy DeVos is involved in that too, as well as the Heritage Foundation, as well as Hillsdale and such. And the Aspen Foundation is tied right straight into what? What, boys and girls? The Clinton Foundation. There you go. Down a dice. I'm arc and sided. And it's going to be by these people. So anyhow, we need to keep this stuff. We need to keep the Constitution Party, which is more conservative. than the Republican Party. We actually believe in God. We actually believe in sanctity of life. We're not removing it. We actually believe in the Constitution and the protection of everyone's rights. We stand together to protect each other's rights. I don't even have to agree with you on things. And I'm sure everybody here believes the same way because we're constitutionalists. but we would stand up to fight for your rights. And I think that that is a huge, a huge, huge deal because nobody else is standing up for anything. Are you guys in the parties? I was putting out pictures of the people that were standing up there, and I've got a couple more that I can put up there, specifically Marjorie Taylor Greene. I've talked to all the Jay Sixers. It's absolutely horrific to me that the Jay Sixers have not had anybody step up for them and say, we're done with this. and go after these people I i can't believe it troy smocks has been on here he was literally kidnapped by the fbi and the the federal overreach he's got about a 20 256 million dollar lawsuit against the federal government for kidnapping and they're doing it all over the united states to drag them back to their den which is a foreign foreign ground which is dc And they're all in it. They're using all of our three letter agencies in Grand Rapids, Michigan, and the DNR in Michigan is using it to control 4.6 million acres to do what, boys and girls? Oh, probably traffic kids on the waterways. and make them disappear and clear cut and take the mineral rights and take the logging rights. That's what's happening. And nobody can show us the receipts. They're stealing our state, our natural resources and doing all kinds of bad stuff, including trafficking children on planes and dumping them back off with the cartels or jumping and throwing them in the meat grinders. And there you go. You sound like a conspiracy theorist or something. I have the receipt. That's the problem. You can't be a conspiracy theorist if you've got the receipts. Well, anymore, it's like the saying goes, what's the difference between a conspiracy theorist and news? About three months. Ten minutes anymore. Yeah. So there's another aspect to what you were just talking about, Donna, regarding the military and mainly up in Camp Grayling and the stuff that they're pulling off up there. I just went through several military bases. I was on one, and then I was removed from another while I was down in Virginia last week. But one of the things I find interesting regarding our military servicemen in Lebanon There was a DODD regulation that was just published, and it comes out every couple of years, during election times especially. But the new guidelines were just published to our military. And here's a couple of keynotes that they put down there. These are the stuff that they may not do as active service members. They can't attend partisan or nonpartisan fundraising activities in uniform, right? They can't volunteer to work on any campaign of a candidate running for a partisan office. They cannot engage in any political activity in a federal building. They can't use their position or influence to solicit votes for a candidate. They can't be listed as a sponsor. They can't speak before any political gatherings. They can't participate in any radio or TV broadcasts as an advocate for or against a political party or candidate. They can't march or ride in a political parade. They cannot participate in any effort to provide voters with transportation to the polls. if they're associated with any, or I'm sorry, if that transportation is associated with any partisan political party or candidate. They cannot work or stand at the polls for a candidate running for office or a political party. They cannot solicit, accept, or receive any contributions politically. They cannot use their email or government-furnished equipment to engage in a political activity. That one's pretty understandable. Or they cannot share or retweet links from the account of a candidate or partisan political office on their personal social media. Why do we think that is? I know a handful of people that are in the military, and I get stuff handed down to me regularly, that is not supposed to leave their office, right? So I get to see a lot of this stuff, and I can't tell you who they are because they're on the inside, and if word got out that they were handing down information, then they'd be in serious trouble, right? So I get a lot of this information, and some of it I like to share around when I can, stuff like that. But you have to ask the question, why are our own military who are fighting for our liberty and fighting for our freedom in this nation, why are they being strangled by their own chain of command to say that they cannot engage in the fight for liberty? Why? Because that's all this is here. When we're talking about political parties and candidates, this is a fight. Now, granted, we've gone so far as to allow wicked men and corrupt politicians into the fight and think that somehow they're still fighting the good fight. But nonetheless, everything we do is a fight for liberty. It's a fight to keep our freedoms in this country. And the very people who are fighting physically going off to unconstitutional foreign wars, they are not allowed to participate in their own country. Isn't that a sad state of affairs? It really is. It shouldn't be silenced. Well, I think it's about par for the course, though, for all the attacks on First Amendment rights of Americans. Yep. Another aspect of that is what you were leading up to, Donna, is that there are things that are going on that the people aren't being told, and they're being squashed at that level, especially regarding Camp Grayling, and they can't get any information out because of such guidelines, right? Because if they're caught, they're gonna be held to the military code of justice and potentially be thrown in a brig or worse. Well, I'm going to tell you, when I was up there, I saw no military personnel. And, oh, surprise, surprise, DK Security, which does the security for Van Andel Arena and a lot of the DeVos Van Andel stuff, DK Security does it. They were providing security at all the gates, including the airfield. There was not one military personnel there. and I was shocked I'm like how is this and then not only that the state department a lot of the other employees were either it was either dnr or state department this is not this is this is a joke it was it was absolutely a joke what I saw up there and so here these people have basically commandeered all the natural resources of the state of michigan under the DNR. And these guys are like snarly, nasty people because they've got unquestioned, unchecked authority to harass, to take, to do whatever they want. They can allege anything on anyone's property and you are pretty well screwed right there. You're without But I want to know, what are these people doing with clear-cutting North Michigan? And furthermore, I want to know what DK is doing, this Kentwood-based community, awful darn close to Grand Rapids, a deadlock step with DeVos, Van Andel, Amway, that sort of thing, who has a Chinese supply line to China and was actively recruiting for that. I want some answers. And I started looking up DK Security, who was providing security on our camp up there. And I started finding satellite offices. There's about 35 of them across the United States. So one of them is right near the Grand Canyon, north of Williams. And it's on like a dirt road in the middle of the woods there. And they've got some sort of building compound there for DK security. in a satellite office of some sort in the middle of the woods, backing up to a waterway in a canyon. And I want to know what the heck are they doing there? It doesn't make any sense whatsoever. So now are they part of the park system? Are they part of Camp Grayling? Are they part of what? Who are these people? They've got like a guy, I think he's got an Indian, like from India, last name sitting on the top. And the connections there are just like kind of crazy. But why is it? And then when President Trump, when President Trump was was in Butler and the security system, the security force there. I talked to somebody that was associated with the Secret Service when I was at the RNC. They said it wasn't the Secret Service. It was different security that was there. And so this is not getting out because people are not talking to the people that are on the ground. And then this week I had a military person sit there and virtue signal me with his military pedigree after I caught him associated with a lie. And I'm going to tell you, I don't care what label anybody comes to us under. We have got to be questioning all of this. I'm really questioning some of the things around President Trump right now. He doesn't seem like the same person. It's like serious concerns going on there. And I don't know with all the blackmail, with all the coercion and the threats that are going on. I don't know if good people get into place because I remember, Ralph, you spotted it too. And you said that that things with President Trump changed after about 18. I've said it for a long time that if you watch the actions that President Trump took when he was in office, the first two and a half years were vastly different from what he did in the following period, the 18 months following that. There was a turning point there. that the legislation that went through, the executive orders, basically anything administrative in the executive branch that he took action on, there was a turning point there and it was a pretty clear delineation point where the things before that were different than what was after that. The things before that tended to benefit everyday Americans, whereas the things after that turning point tended to benefit either the establishment or big corporations more than before that. Not entirely, but the focus shifted. Well, and I think like the executive orders, I met the guy that was behind writing of the executive orders, which is really interesting. And I'm like, how did you get how did you do this? Because they're not they're not law. And but but I had some questions with that. But the executive orders, I was totally obsessed with them. And if you haven't read President Trump's executive orders, they're they are absolute genius what they went after. you know, and it's never one person. It's an, it's an administration that works together, but the executive orders were absolute genius in, in seizing all assets from people that have been, uh, involved in crimes against humanity. And that, that was like my first favorite one. And then right after that one got, um, was, uh, was put out there, the, there was a sale of a 1400 acre estate in the black forest, uh, area of, uh, in Europe. And it was a pretty, pretty decisive takedown of the Rothschild estate out there. It's 14,000 acre estate. And that place is creepy. If you looked at all of the symbolism there, that's probably where the Grimm's fairy tales got their material from because bad things were happening to the kids in the forest. And so the parents told them, don't go in the forest and scared them with the fairy tales. But I think there's probably more truth to it than fiction. And I guess to go back to your point, too, about the DNR clear cutting, you know, it it really does make sense because it's right in their name. It's the Department of Natural Resources. So they're clearly in charge of taking all of the natural resources from all the rest of us. And then giving them to the oligarchs who are funding and paying for our elections. And they have to clear cut to be able to have enough trees for all the ridiculous, unnecessary paperwork. I mean, where else are you going to get the paper? Well, remember, bear in mind, since you brought up executive orders, let's clarify that. Executive orders hold no force of law. There is no constitutional authority behind them coming out of an executive branch. That's the reason why the people delegated all authority to the legislatures in that regard, right? Executive orders are from the chief or president or in a state, it's from the governor to various departments, most of which are unconstitutional as it is, but the various departments giving them directives as to what they should be doing or what they are required to do. And even then, when they require the force of law, being able to prosecute or give enforcement powers to some agency, that's required to go through the legislature to be verified. Now, here's a question, though. If President Trump was assigned as commander-in-chief, because the sham inauguration of Biden, there's so many questions there that didn't follow policy. It kind of looks to me like the government was handed over to, perhaps, the military to accomplish a goal. I don't know that for a fact, but it sure seemed that way. And if President Trump was assigned as commander in chief because they stole the election and they know they stole the election, would that change the ability to issue executive orders and have them have teeth? That's a question I don't have an answer for. Well, what you would be referring to there is an actual, like a subtle martial law, if you could say that, right? Because there's no authority for the military to rule the government, nor is there authority for one man to rule the government. So to do that would actually be an enforcement of war against the people through martial law. That's a very dangerous situation, and I understand that things like that have happened in governments throughout history. Typically, they end up not going the way the people think they're going. So I'm very leery when we start talking about any type of military control. Well, we can talk about it because we don't know it, and there's a lot of us that have suspected that for a long time. Yep. You know, because of, you know, it's like there's something going on that is outside of what we normally can and should expect. The processes are not being followed. So I'm just wondering, I really wonder if they have bite under Commander-in-Chief President Trump. The key to that is there's no force of law behind it, right? That act in itself is unconstitutional and should be rejected by the people. However, understanding that the people don't know their constitution, don't know their powers, it's pretty hard to get the people involved. Now, what I was saying during Trump's administration, besides the fact that I was pointing out numerous violations of law amongst all of the agencies across the board, one of the biggest things I would say And I don't think I mentioned this in any other administration, but Trump's was the one since everybody was so involved from 2016 to 2020. I said the simple way to correct this is the sheer fact that the president has the authority to call up the militia of the several states to enforce the law, suppress insurrection and repel invasion, right? That is not the military. Our current military structure is unconstitutional. We are outside of any declared war. They have zero right to maintain a standing army among the states. That should be ended and abolished decades and decades ago. But the state's militias, if you speak to any militiamen, it becomes very clear what our job is as individuals. And those three tasks are so important to an average American person because we are the only ones who can guarantee our own safety as individuals, right? The moment you put your safety in the hands of somebody else, you have given up your right of being autonomous. You are relying on somebody else to maintain your life, liberty, or property. That's never been the American way, and I pray that it never will be, though we're headed that direction. It kind of is right now because it's like, you know, I think that when you have to call somebody in law enforcement to get here or wherever you are, and it takes them two hours to respond, you are completely and utterly alone and without any protection whatsoever. And the system is broken, completely broken. And whenever anybody brings up the militia, they demonize this so badly because people don't understand what it is or why it is. I'm kind of a fan of stand your ground because you are the sovereign of your property, which you own. Somebody comes to do you harm, I believe that you should have the right to defend yourself. and whatever force that looks like. If somebody is dumb enough to come on your property and threaten you or your family, I think you should have the right to defend them. So I am actually of the opinion that even regular law enforcement should really be reverted back to the way that like when you look at New York City, they transitioned from an entirely volunteer law enforcement agency to a paid law enforcement agency and their police system there. I am of the opinion that it really should be, per the Constitution, the acts of law enforcement are supposed to be assigned to the militia, we the people, and that it really should be both a volunteer as well as really almost a mandatory duty for we the people to be enforcing the law and that any arrest really made by a non uh and by by a government agency that isn't basically just a citizen's arrest is technically probably should be illegal and that it's then up to the courts to decide uh and or a grand jury to decide the verdict on whether or not it was a lawful thing that the person did, but the arrest itself and the enforcement at the local level really should probably be being done by the people themselves. And that's the hard thing that people don't want to hear because a lot of people don't want that responsibility. They don't want to have to go and arrest their neighbor if they see a felony being committed. And a lot of people don't understand that in law itself, it is a felony to not arrest or at least to make known another felony if you witness it or know about it. Which basically makes everyone a felon. If you've never read the books, Three Felonies a Day, do yourself a favor and read that because it's incredible. Everybody here is a felon. Everybody you meet on the street is a felon according to their regulations and codes and statutes. That is just everyday life now. Which should be abolished. About 90% of their nonsense to do selective harassment to we the people. That's what it's all about. It's about coercion, fear, threat, invasion, and forcing people through those methods to capitulate and hand over our freedoms and give them power. Every single one of them that are sitting in the seats should be removed, stripped of their citizenship and be gone because they jumped right in the bandwagon with this. One of my favorite ones is how you can basically perpetually lose your right to vote and have guns if you collect llama poop. What? Is that a thing? Yep, that's a felony. Also rainwater. If you're collecting rainwater out of your gutter, that is a felony according to EPA regulations. Thus, you need to turn in your weapons as well. Yeah, I got to take the weapons. And we'll take the weapons because a llama poop and collecting rainwater. So it is a crazy system. But the point I was trying to make there, and you, Ralph, brought up the grand jury, which is another vital aspect to actually working a militia into true law enforcement. And the grand jury is that of the people. We're not talking about a federal grand jury, so they call it in federal court. but the Constitution provides that no person shall be held for a capital crime unless they are indicted by a grand jury, right? That's the first point. When somebody witnesses a crime being committed, and I want to tie this all the way back around full circle, when somebody witnesses a crime being committed, they are now the accuser, and they should go before their local judge grand jury and say, hey, this guy is guilty of this crime, right? Without an accuser, there's no crime. Right now we have law enforcement arresting people based on hearsay, right? And then they go stand before a court and they don't even meet their accuser. They don't meet the person that the hearsay came from, right? and then they're held on various crimes and misdemeanors because of that. That's all unlawful. If there's no accuser, there's no crime. Even Christ himself did that with the adulterous woman, you remember. So after that fact, after an accuser comes up, stands before a grand jury, makes the formal accusation to the accused, the grand jury is then to indict the person to hold them while the militia goes out and collects the various information to verify or nullify that accusation. And they may even have to go and make the arrest if they don't have the person in custody already. And then they stand before the court and all of that information is brought to the public side. The court is merely an administrator of the law at this point. They hold no authority whatsoever. but that which we've given them. So they are an administrator. They are just to look at the various evidence. They are to look at the various law brought up, and then they are to present it in wide open court for who? The jury, the people, to determine whether or not all of this information is gathered correctly and is valid or invalid. And then you can prosecute the individual, however the verdict comes down. Now, the key point to that is that at any point, a governor or the president himself can call up that action, right? So when you see people like Klaus Schwab and Bill Gates, the Rothschild family, you see BlackRock, Vanguard, all these names that we can throw out. We know who all of these people are, right? There are already grand jury verdicts and indictments that have been presented against each and every one of them that have been handed up to every federal court. They've been handed up to common law courts across the globe, right? You can call it a globe. I'd have lost my word in there. But handed to common law courts and that have been handed to every sitting president since I don't know when, long before my time. So those indictments are already in place. All an executive officer has to do is pick up an indictment, call up the various state militias in that area and say, you guys need to handle this. Here's the information, go to it and keep me informed, right? And that's it. The people take the charge. They handle it. And as you said, Ralph, you have to understand that is all volunteer. Because the moment you pay somebody to enforce the law, they're doing it for money. If it's volunteer, we do it for the righteousness of the law and upholding it. We don't do it for any other purpose. Because nobody I know wants to go and arrest their neighbor and hold them for a felony charge. I know I don't. I like a lot of my neighbors. But if I saw somebody doing that, then it's my responsibility to bring it up, and it's my responsibility to put a stop to it. I would say, too, to clarify, this is not advocating for the vigilante justice stuff that gets glorified in media of being the judge, jury, and executioner of a person in one. This is the lawful process of Going through and having we the people be the proper, not one person, but we the people as a body being the ones that are actually doing the prosecution and law enforcement. Well, and they sure have glorified that in the movies and such. It's like the movies have gone off and done a bang-up job of telling people, you know, you can go out there and do whatever you want, exact, and make it a cartoon-esque superhero situation. That's not what we're talking about here. We're talking about something else. So if anybody wants to go out after any of us for talking about the militia and trying to figure out what's going on, I'm going to point the finger right back at them for pushing this – nonsense on our kids in the media and across society to incite the violence through the movies and through media and through the news. How many times do you turn the news on and what's it all about? Oh, let's see how much fire we can put on there or blowing up houses or somebody's shot or something like that to make this seem like it's really normal. It's pretty sad when they have to run to every other country on the planet to find something that's horrific to shove in front of our faces so that we think that this is happening every day all the time. But what's really happening, they're hiding it like the child trafficking associated with the oligarchs and all of these people that are part of this system. True story. Yeah. So at any point, this can all be stopped, right? The moment somebody understands the constitutional power behind it, it can all be stopped. I mean, it's going to be messy. Don't get me wrong, because we're so deep. It's going to be messy waiting out of this pig crap. If anybody's ever worked with pigs, you'll understand what I'm saying. You don't get out of it without crap on you. But It's got to be done because there's no other way that it's going to be stopped. Can I make a request? We can also throw in abolishing the bar because the bar is a club. It has no license to practice law. They've just taken over things. Part of the parasite group out there. We should be able to represent ourselves and not have the judge in a civil action jurisdiction look down their nose at us and go, where's your attorney? you know, and such, instead of being able to go, well, you know, let's strike about 80, 90% of the laws off the books that are unconstitutional. And we get it back to something simple that we don't need, you know, a dozen attorneys to, you know, to line their pockets with, to try to defend ourselves over something as stupid as llama poop. Well, and additionally, that brings up another point about having we the people be in law enforcement and that right now, It is impossible for a single person to know the intricacies of every law in the books as well as all the case law. I would contend it is absolutely physically impossible to store that much information in a single person's brain right now. And so for this system, as it is on the books, that we are legally mandated to be able to follow, for it to actually work, work correctly, the laws have to be simplified such that the common person can actually enforce them correctly. Well, here's another problem. The books the attorneys have to buy to even have access to that sort of thing so they can outmaneuver we the people or make themselves completely in the forms you have to know and on and on and on to comply. They're agents of the frigging government. Go ahead, Karen. Sorry. So one of the problems with the ideal scenario that Bill was proposing was when it comes to sending it to the jury. And I think that perhaps is one of the reasons why we don't see grand juries. I don't know if there's been grand juries and they've made a verdict and we're just waiting to all find out about it. That's possible. On the other hand, We don't even know, as he pointed out, a real grand jury, a lawful grand jury is not the same as what you see being done in the federal system right now. Correct. That whole process is incorrect. And so the people don't know what that looks like. And I've been on a local county jury before. And so that is giving me lots of thoughts about this whole process, too. If I knew more, I could have handled it a little differently at the time, but that's okay. I learned some things. One of the things that I remember very well is that this was a criminal sexual case against a minor, and a man was alleged to have fondled a minor, and she finally came forward sometime later. Well, what are the first thing they do when they're selecting a jury? They ask you, do you know the prosecutor? Do you know the defendant? No, I don't know any of these people. I have nothing to do with them. Is that proper? Number two, have you had any experience in your life with this sort of crime? A lot of people got dismissed. A surprising number of people got dismissed because of that. Two people on the jury had experiences related to what was about to come before us, and they said nothing, and they were allowed on the jury. And as it turned out, when we were actually debating the issue, those experiences absolutely informed and weighed in on us. Well, you certainly wouldn't want a jury of actual peers now, would you? Well, that's the thing, right? Because one had an experience with a youth who admitted after making an accusation that she made up the accusation. And therefore, this woman was prone to believing that the youth in this case had done the same thing. None of the rest of us saw that. And I still believe there's no way, no way that this child made up the story. But that's what she really believed because that was her experience. None of us would have really thought of it, though, except for her. So she was the devil's advocate, but she was the one kind of thinking outside the box. We just didn't even really think of that as a relevant argument. In the other case, there was a woman who had an experience in her previous years where she had had something happen to her and she had a delayed pregnancy. response where she hid it until the perpetrator was out of the picture um I think it was her mother again just like this situation I was in the mother allowed a man into the child's life until she didn't and when that man was out of the picture then the child felt comfortable speaking about what had happened And in her case, I don't think there was ever a prosecution. But she knew about that delay from personal experience. And so it gave us even more than the professional who was brought in to talk about how that delay can happen so that we all understood and could believe the witness. We had one right there in the jury. And that was beneficial. it didn't count against the witness against the victim it helped inform our case and like bill was saying if you have a community where you're suddenly in a position to judge your neighbor on a jury or to accuse them of a crime you're more likely to take that decision personally too You're not going to say, well, I don't know who this guy is. He probably did it. It's okay. I'll just go ahead along with the rest of the 11 jurists here and say, I believe he did it, even though I really don't know. Maybe he was innocent, but okay, they believe it. If he's your neighbor or somebody in your community, there is a higher level of more personal responsibility attached to that. Because you also could be a victim. You also could be a victim of an accusation. And you want to be able to trust your neighbors in that scenario also. But how many of us know how to be jurists and I can tell you from my seat in the general journal assembly even within that organization the knowledge of how to practice the grand jury process is lacking And there's a lot of questions that go along with it because it's been lost in time. We don't have the training. We don't have the practice. And if you have a George Soros or a Gretchen Whitmer that is in your case, you want that jury to be really knowledgeable about what is going on before you put that case in front of them. And I think that's one of the reasons, one of many reasons why we're seeing a delay. People want justice. Why haven't there been arrests? Well, for all we know, there have been. I mean, we're talking about body doubles and so on, too. So this is a complicated scenario or situation. I think there's so much that we don't know. But certainly our lack of education and our lack of sense of responsibility is there. But as you can see with this awakening process, as we're becoming more unified, we're starting to gather together in that sense of responsibility, aren't we? Aiyo. And that's the biggest key is a unity, right? I've said it before. John Adams rightly said that our Constitution was made for a moral and religious people. It's wholly inadequate to the government of any other. When you break that down, you understand that when the people are demoralized, when they lose all of their foundational principles, that the Constitution can no longer be upheld because it's the people that are the ones who can uphold it. And that's it. And the jury, what you just laid out is a perfect example of that. A lot of people argue, well, you can't have actual peers that may know the accused or the victim on a jury trial. And I say absolutely you can because, one, if they are moral and religious, if they have character, they will properly vouch for or against that individual's character, against their morals, right? Because they know them. They know how they act in the public, and they may even know how they act in their own home. I would much rather have somebody like that judging me then I would have a complete stranger who has never even heard of me or talked with me because I sound like a radical to a lot of people. So I would much rather have somebody that's actually spoken with me than somebody who has no idea and just immediately considers what I say as some radical thing. Well, and then they can take sound bites out of it, too, and twist it. So you have you have these young attorneys or attorneys in general that are just in it for the money or to make a name for themselves so that they get the press of it, get more money to get bigger cases and such. It's not about justice at that point in time. It's about self gain and self enrichment. And trying to be the biggest dog in the park here. You know, that's kind of what I think we've devolved into. And then you watch the destruction of the actual laws that should be in place. And they do ridiculous things like the civil action jurisdiction that we have in place. We don't have a system right now working on any level the way that it's supposed to. But I do have some hope for it because of like the Chevron case. That was reverse. That was epic because it took all the bite out of the three letter, four letter unconstitutional agencies, regulatory and otherwise, that should be abolished. Every single one of them should be. You know, we just need a moment with a governor with a good pen. Sharpie, make it permanent. Right. And then go in there and start start nullifying all this nonsense. And I don't think it would take too long to do it either. There have been several really good decisions, in my opinion, by the current Supreme Court. Not all of them do I agree with. Like the one with the presidential immunity, that should have been handled entirely different than it was in that they should have gone after the merits of the case itself, not ruled immunity in general. But man, there have been some good cases that have gone through there lately. And another thing too, is that I think going back to this a little bit, if we had the system working as intended, I think it would kind of deregulate itself fairly quickly. You know, as far as all of the unnecessary rules being stricken from the books, because if we had the proper number of enforcement cases, going through a jury and people had to spend 50% of their time in jury duty, people would get sick of that pretty quick. Yeah. We would learn about jury nullification real quick. One, one of the things that's, um, that's important to understand is I, I am one of those guys who believe that the death sentence should be brought back. All right. because our proper governing system to do justice, there are certain crimes that require a death penalty. And I'll take all the arguments, however that comes down the pipeline, right? Oh, but Bill, it's an imperfect system. So here's one of the things that, as to why we are where we are. And that is in Proverbs 28.2. It says, For the transgression of a land, many are the princes thereof. But by a man of understanding and knowledge, the state thereof shall be prolonged. Now we don't have kings and princes here in America. Understand that. But what do we have? We have executive branches and we have executive departments. Kings and princes. For the transgressions of a land, many are the princes thereof. If you look at all of these agencies, they are designed originally. They are originally designed to squash transgressions. When they see crimes being committed, for instance, let's look at the wave of unmarried pregnancies let's look at teenage pregnancies right well we have to have this whole new agency the department of health and human services to help deal with that issue now right because we've demoralized we've fallen into this this transgression and so we need to set up a prince that solely handles that issue right let's look at uh gun violence okay We've demoralized ourselves into believing that not all lives are equal, that not all lives have value. Thus, we can just kill each other and there's no recourse of action for it. Well, now we have a whole nother transgression. What do we need to do? Well, we need to set up an ATF to deal with firearms so that we can regulate them to keep them out of criminal's hands. The intent sounds great. But it's because of the demoralization of society, it's because of the transgressions that are allowed because the people don't put a stop to it in their own communities, that we have to set up all these princes, all these agencies to deal with those issues. Whereas the people should have dealt with them long ago. There's that. And one of the things, the reason why I brought up the death penalty, one of the things that was said of old, and I've been trying to think of who said it, and I can't. I'll have to look it up. But it's been said that it is better for a thousand guilty men to go free than it is for one innocent to die. We are charged in Scripture with three things. That is to seek justice, love mercy, and walk humbly with our God. Right? Right? This is what we're talking about is seeking justice. We understand who the bad guys are. We understand what needs to be done to fix this problem. But the people got to stand up and do it. The other side is we also have to love mercy, right? Which is what I was just explaining. It is better that guilty men go free than it is that we convict one innocent man and have that blood on our hands. That is where mercy falls in. We need to make dead sure. That's why it's the people's job, volunteer to go out and find the evidence to be able to track this, to be able to bring the accusations and prosecutions against their neighbors. Because it is only by then you're going to find mercy. You think paid individuals to enforce the law through executive departments like our Michigan State Police, you think they care about mercy? No. I've seen a lot of stuff they do that each one should be charged criminally for. But nonetheless, people consider them law enforcement. So I hold them in respect to that extent. I've got a cousin that lives right down the road from me who's actually Michigan State Police, and I harass him every time. In fact, I commit many misdemeanors right in front of this house just because of that, right? There's reasons behind that, but nonetheless... I haven't been able to have that chance to talk with him to that extent. But he honestly believes that he is doing the right thing. He is there enforcing the law. And as much as he can, when he sees a crime, by all means, he can be that accused person or he can be that accuser and go after it and actually make the arrest and everything. I'm all for it, 100%. But don't use the power of the executive branch to do so. That is not their job. It is the people's duty to do that. So as an individual, absolutely, get it done. But don't rely on somebody else for that. And with that, the police officers that we have are part of the militia as part of we the people. So they should have just as much power to be able to arrest people as we do, but not more. Kind of. I love this discussion. We have the ability to have sheriffs, according to our Constitution. And to understand a sheriff's duty, you have to go back into the olden times, what a sheriff was back during the common law era in England. The sheriff's deputies shouldn't actually be deputies, in my opinion. I don't know enough about that to actually say yay or nay. But in my opinion, we shouldn't have a need of sheriff deputies, right? The sheriff should be the administrative side of the law. They should be able to accept the accusations. They should be able to gather the people together to form their posse. That's still lawful, and they should be able to handle and execute any warrants that come down from grand juries. Everything ties in together. But as far as actively patrolling and what they do currently, setting up road entrapments to entrap people who are actually not committing crimes but civil infractions, that is not within their jurisdiction to do so. Which ties back to the money part of it, the insurance companies, which were the reason that Gretchen Whitmer got into the seat of being the governor, because that was all tied in with the insurance industry. Blue Cross Blue Shield of Michigan started out as a beneficiary trust owned by the people of Michigan, and her papa decided to move it over into a mutual. So complete and utter theft. And this is not something, I don't want anybody to think that I'm just talking here because I've read a lot of books or maybe have a little bit of understanding, right? I have not read a lot of books, and I have a little understanding. I will admit to that. Because I'm up to six books on my desk now that I haven't finished. But nonetheless. Get on that, Bill. Get on that. What I'm speaking of is actually experience. I'm not one that just talks about militias. I'm not one that just talks about having your peers in a jury. I'm one of those that have actually done it, right? During 2020, when we had all the, or 2021, late 2020, early 21, we had a handful of rioters that had come in into Grand Rapids, right? Everyone knows the Kyle Rittenhouse story. However, how many people actually know what's happened in all of the other cities across America? Not many, but it happened in almost every major city. Grand Rapids, Michigan was one of those. This is my area. This is where I work. This is where I grew up. So I was part of a valid militia at that time. We knew where the rioters were gonna be. We knew the organizations that were funding them. We knew who was busing them in. We had all of the evidence and we went down to our local municipal police because Grand Rapids police is in charge of it, not the County Sheriff, right? That's another huge downfall we have. But we went to them and said, hey, we're going to be here. We know everything that's going on. Here's everything you need. They're going to be here doing this at this time. No problem. What were we told? We were told to stand down and stay out of the way. So we did everything we could outside of their jurisdiction in protecting property, no less than Cal Rittenhouse was. Any one of us could have been in that same situation. But thank God we weren't. And what happened that same night? Our own Grand Rapids police chief, the criminal that he was, took a knee to the people destroying the city. You'll remember that, Don. I'm sure Ralph remembers that. But he literally took a knee. He didn't enforce the law. And he had just squadrons of riot police there. At any point, that could have been stopped. The National Guard was called in once. At any point, that could have been stopped. But who was giving the order? No one. They were just there to make the show and make it seem valid. All the while, a handful of us people were actually willing to put a stop to it. we were threatened under duress or under the threat of being arrested for enforcing the law. You want to know who the order came down from? The order came down from Rosalind Bliss, the mayor of Grand Rapids, to the chief of police, who the chief of police in any of the municipalities always bowed to the mayor. And I was told, because I know a detective, I'm like, why did you guys stand down? Because they were told to stand in a stairwell associated with the police department in Grand Rapids. They were told to stand down. The order came from Bliss to that chief of police, And disabled the entire city. This hangs on Rosalind Bliss. And not only that, there were 175 cities in the United States that were part of an initiative to place progressive mayors in it. Grand Rapids was one of them. And every single one of these rats, and I don't mean demo rats, I'm saying rats, globalist puppet rats, need to be absolutely tried for the treason and the destruction of the city. And Black Lives Matter, I can't believe how stupid people are to follow this. It is a corporation. It is a large corporation that has raised a lot of money. I mean, millions and millions of dollars that they've raised. They did $2 billion worth of damage in the United States of America. And that corporation should be liable for the actions of their paid provocateurs to pay for the damage that they have done. And any mayor, any person that, and you can't tell me that the legislature in the state of Michigan and Gretchen, the criminal Whitmer did not know what was going on. Because they're all in lockstep together. And they protect each other. And they protect these paid provocateurs and these agents of destruction. They're protecting all of them. And much of that damage and destruction was done to black-owned businesses. Yes. Yes. Yep, I'll tell you, Al Capone's criminal administration had nothing on what we see in our government today. Agreed. If you study how Al Capone operated and how he actually functioned through that era, you will see the exact same similar ties to our government today, but understand it's on a massive scale. There's your liberty essential, right? The people, the militia, has to put a stop to it. It's as simple as that. And until we do that, and I say simple, but remember, it's going to be dirty. But until that gets done, there is no other politician, there is no other elected candidate that can do anything without the people standing up and exercising their rightful duties. the end has to come to these popularity campaigns for their new puppet that they package. They do the messaging for that. They throw in front of the people, hoping the people will be dumb enough to follow them. It right to their own destruction. That's what's happening here. And I think we need to be very clear on the fact that this is, this is what's happening and people need to wake up. And it's, it's, it's a, on all of us to never be quiet, but to tell people and help educating, help in the education of the people around us, which the MEA, NEA has done a bang up job, dumbing this entire nation down into accepting the nonsense that they're pushing on all of us. I mean, look at even the labor force we have. Good luck. We keep going the way it is. You're not going to have anybody to to help you with daily life, but they're going to be able to sit there in a safe space, snowflake-ridden coffee shop and know every answer to why we need to jump on the bandwagon for their social engineering and destruction of this nation. But don't you know math is racist, so we can't teach that. Oh, yeah. Math is racist. Yeah. I don't know if you heard this week earlier, but but I had a run in with a little bit of a tenant and it was kind of an epic thing. And it ended up really, really well. At the end of the day, we were we had. You know, we had come to terms on it and there was a huge apology. This person is one of my favorite people right now because he was big enough to realize that he did something that wasn't right. And he said he was sorry. I'm like, you're my new favorite person because you're actually taking your responsibility for what happened here, right? But, you know, I'm like, I'm like, your dog doesn't get to piss on the floor with everybody else walking past. And he's like, oh, you said that word. I'm like, I identify as a person that can say whatever the hell I want to say. You don't get to tell me how to talk. And I'm not going to back down from this. and you know what if some of the adults out there would stop acting like whipped pups with their tails between their legs every time one of these re ridiculous snowflakes try to tell you what to do as they're proselytizing and helping in the destruction of your children I think we would turn this around pretty quickly. You don't get to tell people the pronouns to use or anything else like that, or muzzle us. If you can't deal with life, I think it's time to go back to the schools and see if they'll actually teach you to be an adult, a grown up who handles problems. That's what we do. And we don't faint in the corner because, God forbid, somebody doesn't use our pronoun. It's ridiculous. What a childish thing to do, to sit there like a six-year-old with a crown on a stage, having to have everybody bend just because you're throwing a tizzy fit about wanting to be recognized. And that's the kind of stuff that all stands contrary to law, right? It's ridiculous. You've done shows about this before, talking about the grooming of children, how this all happens, how it plays out, what the agenda is behind it. And a lot of people will stand back and say, yeah, but there's nothing we can do. We just got to get out there. We just got to pray for these people, pray for the end. We need to pray that somebody stands up and does something about it, right? Well... You've heard it said. You know the law stands against it. And this just showed up in front of me here while you were sitting there talking about it. It was Proverbs 28.9. It's he that turneth away his ear from hearing the law, even his prayer shall be an abomination. If we're not going to stand up and do what we know we have to do and holding to it, holding to the law and enforcing it, then your prayers aren't going anywhere either. Understand that. Not my words, that's the judge's words. So I think that what is the overarching problem of all of this? It is a biblical concept that people turned away from God. People turn away from God, what happens? They start suffering. Because if you start practicing a godly way of living, you can solve all the problems that come at you. And you can do it quite successfully. It might not always be pretty. It might always be easy. But the yoke is easy and the burden is light. That easy doesn't mean easy as in it's easy to do. It means it's comfortable. And we have lost that balance. Connection as a nation, as a world with God. So what happens? We suffer. And when those suffering is great enough, as in the Declaration of Independence, I've read it many times, that suffering, that evil suffering is bad enough. Then we start to look back to God. And at that point, we start straightening up. We start cleaning up. And that is, I think, where we're nearing, where we're starting to unify. We're starting to look at how can we take care of our local communities and our families and do better there? How can we get closer to God? Because obviously this isn't working. When we do that, we'll figure out how to do things like grand juries. We'll figure out how to do our local policing. We'll figure out what a militia will look like. It may not be called a militia. It may not be called a sheriff's posse. Maybe the deputies came out of the posse concept, but we need to return to it. I think naturally we'll start to return to those things, but the suffering has to be great enough for people to do this. I think that's where we're headed. And unfortunately, we might have to do some more suffering before we get there. But hopefully we're smart enough to turn. Oh, I don't know where Karen went. She blipped off. That was not me. That was a blip off Karen. She'll be back. She always does this. So at any rate, I think I'm hoping that we all... Oh, there you are, Karen. You got toasted there. What happened? Yeah, I don't know. I just disappeared. You guys disappeared on me. Yeah. Well, I think you guys- Thanks for being on today, guys. I've got Bob Terry sitting in the back. I think we should address one more thing on our convention this weekend. Our keynote speaker, Randall Terry, ditched us for this weekend. Not real happy with this, but we're going to carry on. And apparently Michigan wasn't an important place for him to be at our convention this weekend. But we're going to be there. And if you want to hang out with everyday people, I think that this will be a lot of fun, but it's going to be kind of interesting because I absolutely may have a different opinion, but I believe people should keep their word and their commitments. And I have a big problem with this two weeks and then three days before a convention for a presidential candidate not to show up. I have a huge problem with this. And so we'll see how this is going to go. I know that we have other people that are in the position of being filled with grace, but there was no misunderstanding that he was going to be there from April on. And let us know two weeks before the convention that all of a sudden he had a problem. We said, you've got to be there because that's what we've always done is we do all the business at convention. And then three days ago saying, I'm not going to be there. And that's just the way it is. Oh, boy. That doesn't work well as an excuse with Donna Brandenburg. And then to not really apologize, but just say, I'm not going to be there, and that's just the way it is. He's in a doghouse. We get to see that this weekend. And just let everybody know, this is not your normal nominating convention, right? Obviously, we already have one oddity going on here. But it's not your normal nominating convention. We're not holding this in a big high-rise DeVos building. It's not being funded by any anybody related to DeVos' or Van Andel's, right? Even though we're in that neck of the woods, right? Don and I and Ralph and Karen, we all know who these people are. They're right out of Michigan. But this is out on a resort, out in the country. So everybody who is used to meeting up in the city environment and going to these big fancy conventions, take a break. Get out, make the drive. It'll be a good time. We'll be able to interact more one-on-one than just a handful of people, an oligarchy standing up and telling you what you need to know. You actually get to interact, right? That's the benefit of being part of a minor party. and holding to principles is that it chases a lot of people away, and especially a lot of people that like to cause problems. It chases them away because they can't tolerate being so drawn on a line, right? That's where we want to be. We don't want to be compromising. We don't want to have to jump the line to make things happen. Exactly. And so with that said, it's like for me, if somebody can't keep their word on something that was going in that direction since April and drop it on us, who have been working our literal tails off, keeping this party on the ballot and working to give our state another option. Um, I, I would, will not be, I tell you that right now, I, if somebody can't keep their word to me and their commitments, not a chance of the bridges have been burned with me. And, uh, that's, that's a problem because if they can't do it and something is just showing up for a convention like this, they're not there. It's likely that they're going to do something like this again. And it's a character thing. And for me, and I, I'm not a good person for, for, uh, giving grace on something like this, you know? So there are some hard, fast rules for Donna Brandenburg. I'm sure that the rest of you aren't there, but I'm just letting you know the Brandenburg opinion on this. But regardless, whether the presidential nominee, I think we need to let everybody know because we've been telling everybody that this is what's happening and he let us down. And so... With that said, we're going to hold people accountable, and we will hold people accountable, even on the level of being nobody farmers that nobody seems to give a crap about because, you know, we're not doing what everybody else does. We're just going back to work and shoveling manure when we're done. and taking care of our families and our animals and whatever else is. So, because I guess we're just not important enough. So there you go. But with that said, thanks for being on guys. I hope everybody joins us this weekend. You're going to have actual apple crisp and all that good stuff, you know, normal people stuff instead of, you know, instead of the big money crap. So come out and join us. It's on my telegram page. It's on the USTPM page ustpm.org is where you can find us sign up and come and come and stand with us just normal everyday people not not ruling oligarchs or or people who are going to do the wrong thing or buy our politics so that's it thanks guys and I'm gonna go grab myself another something else to drink here because bob terry's gonna be on and bob is always on for a long time because he's got a lot of information So, Ralph, if you can, I'd like you to stay on for a little while because we're going to go into the deep, dark recesses of cybersecurity and what's happened this week. And we'll see you guys later. Thank you so much. Take care. Bye. You too. Bye. Good morning and welcome to the second hour of Brandenburg News Network. I am Donna Brandenburg and it's the 24th day of July 2024. Welcome to our show. And I want to get right on to this because quite honestly, Bob Terry's here and he's got a resume that's just incredible. And he's the one that's really been working behind the scenes. And do you wonder why he was not able to get anybody in mainstream media to give him some airtime? Because he's telling the truth. That's why. And if somebody is telling the truth, they are not going to get into these big media companies because they're part of the problem. They're bought and paid for. They're fake news. So anyhow, good morning, Bob. How you doing? Great. Good to see you. Good to see you, too. I didn't quite make it to get my... Hang on a minute. My... drink here to stay on because I always have a couple of glasses of something here because we're always on for a very long time. And I'm thankful for you joining us today. I'm going to have Ralph, the IT guy, stay on for a little while because I think this is going to be a really good discussion because having people on who actually understand how this works, what's happened, how far back it goes, I think is going to be really helpful to people understanding the scope and how big this is. And I got to tell you, I had a Green Beret reach out to me today that said, basically, we're screwed. Get some food on hand six months or so and get prepared because these people have a way of getting in to any device, anytime, anywhere, and also to be involved in any of our systems from electronics or from elections to potentially, I would say, our military and our military functions and such. And this is a little bit of going to be a scary red pill for everyone, but I think we need to cover it. And I do have some of the things that you sent me up, queued up. So if you want me to bring anything up on CrowdStrike or the other articles that you put up, I do have those queued up. Okay. Where would you like for me to begin? Wherever you want. You're the king of the show right now. So whatever you would like to talk about, please lead us down that path. Well, I'd like to state that, if you don't mind, I'm pretty actually happy and satisfied that – Last Thursday and Friday happened. Now there's a reason behind that. It proved you right is what it did. Well, there's a lot more to it than just that. There really is. You see, for a long, long time, the real core of cybersecurity... is not being developed in the United States. It's all happening overseas. Now, there's a lot of reasons for that. One, economics. Two, back when Edward Snowden defected, a whole series of whistleblowers began to emerge. And a lot of people were in trouble. And not only economics moving overseas, but they don't have to worry about whistleblowers in this country. That's the fact. Now, the core of the cybersecurity that this country evolves around, when you take a look at the Microsoft operating system, or you look at McAfee, Symantec, Trend Micro, you look at Cisco, the network that most people use, and they're only real companies. well, arguably real competitions, Juniper Networks, that's all happening in India. All of it. And I think, you know, they're paying something like four to 10 cents on the dollar. You know, that's what they're, you know, and so in this country, cybersecurity has evolved to a state to where And even if you had people out there that want to do something to really take proactive action, I think there's a pretty good block going against those people, even if they wanted to do the right thing. But they're trained and they're to understand theory, the theory how everything works, the theory in how to set up these systems to defend these systems. but what I am is the last remnants of a culture of research scientists. And what I do is hardcore research, uh, intercepting, uh, events inside of the computer operating systems. And, uh, I can see things, I can see things that are happening. And, uh, You know, it's been very, very difficult for me because, first of all, I like to think I'm a practical man, a realist. The culture I came up in is, you know, I've been fortunate enough to get a fine degree, education, associate, bachelor's and master's. But when I was selected, then what became Lockheed Martin, I was selected – And I kept my mouth shut and I listened to some very, very gifted engineers, really smart people that taught me how to think. The first thing they said to me is a sentence that's no longer used in this country. School is out, you're in the real world now. And what's happened is that this culture It's just continuous, continuous education. And I get that. I get that to a certain degree. But with all the hype going on in this country, and please forgive me for the audience, what I'm saying, you hear about artificial intelligence, artificial intelligence. There hasn't been any truly real breakthroughs in technology in a long, long time. If you go back and you look at the Silicon Valley industry, if you try to find a startup company that actually went from the initial startup to being sold for over a billion dollars, that hasn't happened in 20 years. What you see of these inflated valuations and right now what's happening in this country is, you know, cyber security is also obviously a mess. And there's business everywhere and there's pretty much no jobs. That's because the industry is upside down. These corporations aren't growing off of profits. They're growing out of venture rounds. And I'm not talking about an ABC round. I'm talking about a D E F G H I venture rounds. And, you know, these, these folks are, you know, pulling back. And so you've got all of these nightmares. You've got all this work that's necessary and nobody's hiring in this country. So that being said, you know, I'm a very, like I said, very practical man. I think I've said that. And I've been trying to get people to understand that. what is really happening inside these Microsoft operating systems. Now, a lot of people don't want to hear it. But the truth is, is that what I discovered after five and a half years of R&D is the most incredible engineering I've ever seen in my career. And the truth is that it is designed to deal with any past, current, or future network security architecture. It is absolutely genius. It is designed to be initiated from the inside of the network out. It already has the pathways established to what it's doing. And the most important thing I could tell you about this morning, which I haven't been able to see yet, I just read it, but there is a major defense contractor called Leidos. It just was published at around 9, 10 a.m. last night. They have about $3.8 billion in contracts. They were successfully penetrated In 2022, all of these top secret documents were stolen. However, a lot of what they stole was Bitcoin and dollars. You see, they're going after the money and Leidos just became recently aware of it. Now, what I just said, if you take it as a word problem, what has been happening throughout the United States and worldwide, is these advanced security systems, zero trust, open architecture, you name it. Everybody thinks that they're secure. And then on a bad morning, they get notified that, yeah, that's one of their contracts. Is that one of the contracts right there? Well, that's one of them, yeah. They get notified that, guess what? That this is what happened to Alitos. All your data has been stolen out of your network. Now, the most important thing that people need to know about this, because suddenly it's almost as if people have these, for lack of a better word, brain farts. You see, there's been intelligent systems available and in wide use for 20 some odd years. There's machine learning, intelligent systems. One of the biggest things in networking that was one of the most expensive products, and I'm just using simple terms so everyone in the audience will understand, is technology that will detect the unauthorized movement of data. That's been in networks for 20 years. And they're supposed to be able to detect movement of data, uploads, downloads, data extraction, and be able to alert and cut the malicious activity off. But what's happening is that all these technologies are being blinded, totally blinded. And I don't want to get into all the specifics behind all that. But the bottom line to what's going on is that I'm an old school trained research scientist that is of the attitude that if you can't design programs to actually interlink and watch what's going on, then all you can rely on is theory in how whatever's happening is supposed to happen. The real problem here is that all of this theory and reality isn't really what's happening inside of systems. And while a lot of people think that, you know, I've been saying chicken little sky is falling, chicken little sky is falling. Hey, hey, you don't understand what's happening. You've heard me say in your past shows that these people are on the genius level and they're going slowly and cautiously trying to not make a mistake. Now, what this boils down to, Donna, is that I've lived my life based on my gut feeling and that has pros and cons. I mean, that really does. But I survived combat in the Middle East and I'm on the planet Earth above ground because I listened to my gut feeling. I listened to my gut feeling a lot. That's basically how I'm still here. But by listening to my gut feeling, I felt compelled a week ago from yesterday to publish my first article. And What I wrote word for word, you know, I believe that, you know, I'm a big believer in God, but I'm trying to tell the truth. What I wrote word for word on Tuesday, well, on Thursday night, Microsoft had an incredible outage that expanded worldwide. And then on Friday, CrowdStrike had this debacle. Now, what you're hearing about, I've watched the news. I've watched, you know, mainstream media, what they're talking about. And it's everything shifting to the CrowdStrike. All right. And suddenly that's what everyone's talking about. But there were two worldwide corporations with two massive, what they're saying, massive errors within approximately eight hours of each other. Now, the thing about this is, is You know, I've had a lot of documentation. I've explained what's happening. I've got the research. And suddenly when Microsoft has their outage, all of these systems worldwide were truly left open. But an Indian corporation, the largest one, and I can't even pronounce the name of it, WurzerX or something like that. I don't know these weird crypto names of corporations. But at the moment Microsoft goes down, they're hacked and $230 million is stolen. And then, you know, the crowd strike occurs. And so what is being reported. It was a truly faulty and corrupt file. And this faulty and corrupt file they deployed was caused such a train wreck that in all of their automation, they couldn't go back and issue any instruction, another automated instruction. They could not do that because that corrupt file got into systems. And it literally took IT administrators to manually go around to each machine and somehow boot them and remove the file. Now, you're talking about just a series of cascading events. But when these corporations go around to manually fix the machine, they use a CrowdStrike product to boot the machines into safe mode. And they couldn't even do that because it was a corrupt CrowdStrike file. So, you know, I mean, this caused everything to stop. So if you were to really look at everything logically, now I'm just mentioning facts here. I'm really not. I'm not a conspiracy person. Never have been. I just think that there's a lot of things out of control and people aren't paying attention. But the truth of the matter is, is that you have to look at the facts. The fact is, the Microsoft adage happened Thursday night and it was worldwide. Then eight hours later, there's a CrowdStrike issue. When they deploy these updates, they're supposed to go through system checks and redundancy, check after check after check. They claim they did that. And so what we are told is really that they knew they were doing a worldwide update. They had checked and cross-checked. And they run their tests for compatibility. And then suddenly when they move that to the actual deployment itself, when they transferred that over, suddenly a key critical file was 100% corrupt. And it only happened in that last transfer. And it brought down all these systems worldwide. Now that, That might be what happened. But I'm just asking people logically, what are the odds that, you know, Microsoft has a worldwide outage and less than eight hours later, CrowdStrike deploys a corrupt file? I mean, you're talking about a series of events here that are overwhelming. And The truth of the matter is when you do the research of what's going on and in how I've defined the architectural doorway, a lot of what happened has been documented in my research of the architectural doorway being used maliciously to get into systems. Now, when you read my articles, what I do is I go out and pull the third party facts and this country has gotten into a terrible spiral of looking at data at a micro level they're just taking an event and looking at it and that's it but when it comes to looking at these events at a macro level where you look at all the pieces happening and all the things that are really going on. When you read my articles, it's the macro level. It shows all these pieces. In my latest article, it shows these cascading issues. Now, what is so amazing about Leidos that has occurred? You can read that article that was published at 9 or 10 last night like a word problem. And what I mean by that is Leidos was penetrated. It triggered nothing inside of their advanced architectures. And they used the most advanced zero trust linked into the Pentagon. Nothing was triggered. All of their data was stolen. It happened in 2022. The article says they had just recently become aware of it. They didn't know that all their data has been stolen. And what I've been tracking for the past five years is how this architectural doorway is being used maliciously and how there's all of the cryptocurrency. And it says in the article that, yeah, it stole the data and Leidos was storing US dollars and Bitcoin on their network and they got it all. Now, I, being a rational man, And it's up to the viewers to make their own decision. But you've got to look at all the facts. And I'm actually going someplace with this. Someplace very important. So. The Republican National Convention finishes, and don't, I'm not, just the facts. All it is, it's facts. It was one of the most successful. The RNC was jam-packed. You were there, you know. There wasn't a seat to be had. And people start leaving, going home that Thursday night and Friday. So Microsoft goes down, and the first thing reported in the news, the very first thing, was the commercial airlines are down. Then the next thing that was reported saw the banks are down. Okay. And so you look at, yes, the RNC was over with. Yes, Microsoft went down that night, complete outage. The next day, the next day, CrowdStrike goes down. Now, These systems were brought to a halt, a halt. They had people manually walk around to them and get them back up. But the fact still remains, all of this happened when all these different key critical events were going down. And so someone of logic has to ask themselves, What's in these systems and what's going to happen when we get closer to this election? Now, I've been trying to be as professional as I can be to explain to people what I see happening inside of these systems. And again, I'm from the old school culture is that if you can't show me what's going on inside these systems... then I don't, you know, I'm going to be polite to you, but I don't want to hear your theory. I don't want to hear anything about a specification. I don't want to hear theory. You know, write me some, an operating system utility that can intercept these events and show me what's happening. And if you can't do that, then I'm going to be polite and smile to you. But, you know, I just, I don't want to hear it. Yeah. Stop wasting my time type of thing. Right. And believe it or not, that was the culture of the engineering environment that I was trained in. And that's how we became number one in the world. All right. Now, I think our economy is like 12th, 13th, 14th, some ridiculously low number. But so there are things happening that. And I have spent so much time, I actually have a solution, a proprietary solution that can monitor all of these events that took me years and years to create. And so what I'm trying to do is make an honest dollar, an honest buck, if you can still do that in this country. And I have some technology and I've already done it before. I have the track record. If you go to my LinkedIn site, I've posted, reposted the articles. What's happened with me is that, and I don't know how this happened in my career, but I was basically covered or featured or main article in every major magazine except for Wired. And since I've discovered this architectural doorway, my articles are essentially vanishing off the internet. And so the one where I want to show people what I did know for the white house and for the the weapons of mass destruction commission which is managed and run by the cia I've reposted the article and in at the last three paragraphs of the article and in the article is pretty amazing read from the aspect that this day some government executive found out what I did and they went to federal computer week magazine because they wanted this to get in the public that there was a technology that basically shut down offensive operations and to this day I don't know who did this but when you go through the article and read it the writer keeps talking about government executives that want to remain anonymous And so the obvious conclusion behind that is that they did not want the NSA to find out who they were. I mean, the Weapons and Mass Destruction Commission was a classified program. And they leaked this and brought the writers in to watch this happening. And it's the most amazing article of the last three paragraphs. Very short. It actually says... that what I designed for the White House worked so well that it caused a debate amongst government executives on whether or not they wanted a product that secures windows available for worldwide use. It actually says that. It actually says that, okay? Then the second to the left paragraph says, but those whose jobs are to... paraphrasing here, to break into computers, you know, offensive operations, they don't want it to be used. And then the very last paragraph says, on the other hand, those whose jobs to defend networks, they want to use it and deploy it. Well, I'm the guy that started the big fight between the government groups. They're split into two groups, the offensive people that spy on networks and break in computers and the defensive group. Well, I shut down the offensive group and I am I have and I'm very proud of what I'm about to tell you. The NSA doesn't like me and I don't like them. I don't like them at all. I think most of these so-called cyber hackers is a cop-out. I believe in strong defense systems, and I believe that if there is a network defense system that's truly effective, then you better go find an offensive hacker that's smarter than the people that wrote the defense system. I don't believe... That, you know, okay, we got to leave an open door so our hackers can come through. That's a bunch of bull crap. And I just never have seen eye to eye with what the fools in the NSA do. I really don't. And let me tell you something else about that. What leaving an opening is called a backdoor. And every major university in our country has come out and publicly stated, especially MIT, that all back doors are found. And if the NSA can get into your computer, so can everybody else. So I never designed defensive systems of that attitude You know, I'm not a professional, you know, I don't guess rear ends. It's just, you know, we've spiraled into a situation to where all of this technology is developed overseas and you have people working IT. And what blows me away is that you have all of these, and I don't like to use the term expert. I don't. I don't know what that means, okay? There's so many moving parts of these systems. But I ask you a very humble question, and that is, if all these people are as smart as they claim to be, and they speak in this wonderful vocabulary and syntax, and they make you think that they can modify the space-time continuum anytime they want. You know, they're so much smarter than Albert Einstein. Then with all these people running around the United States, how did these systems all go down worldwide at the same time? I think one of the other things, too, is that any time that you've got an offensive versus defensive, you know, any time that you're trying to defend a computer or a network, it's an asymmetric issue. There's a big word. There's a big word, asymmetric. Where you can defend all you want, but your adversary has effectively infinite time to experiment to find the holes in your defenses. They have infinite time and infinite effort. And if you've got a million dumb people that you're defending against as adversaries, even if you're smarter than them, they will eventually stumble on the weaknesses in your system. And there is no... With computers, there is no perfect security. Someone will always figure out a way to break it. That's true of any security system. Eventually, given enough time with an adversary, that adversary can find a way through. Well, that's a very profound statement and sounds very, very good. But it doesn't mean a hill of beans to what I've discovered. And I'm sorry. I've discovered. internal mechanics that have been present since the release of 2006 that is designed to evade any network security architecture. So there's an apple that Ralph just mentioned of adversaries probing your network. And the easiest way in the real world to describe that is what Yasser Arafat said over 40 years ago. And that is, the Israeli Defense Force has to be perfect 365 days a year. Every day they have to be perfect. All the PLO has to do is be perfect one day. Okay? That's just the oldest battle tactic in the world. But it's one thing... having a secure, truly secure architecture and people probing. It's another thing when you have a corporation say, okay, we're going to design inside of all these systems how we can evade anything and everything at any time. And that's what I've discovered. It's intentional. It was with foreknowledge. It's the most genius engineering I've ever seen in my life. And these people are not stupid at all. And so there's also a dumbing down of how these operating systems are certified in this country. And that is when I when I as I wrote in my that was published in the first article about me, you know, I wanted to do the right thing when I discovered all this. And the people in the Pentagon, the senior executives that report to Capitol Hill, they know who I am. Oh, yeah, they do. And, you know, when I was trying to get an audience with them to tell them what I discovered, they know that I was in combat in the Middle East and they know, obviously, I'm still here. But when I was trying to explain to them what I discovered and these people have above top secret clearances and there's levels way above top secret. They thought I had lost my mind. They gave me 30 minutes. And so I went through 30 minutes and I showed them what I discovered and they had their cameras on. The body language was incredible. You could hear a pin drop. And, you know, these people that are actually supposed to have the need to know, they did not know this was in the systems. I don't want to get these people in trouble, but people at U.S. Cyber Command whose job is to build offensive weapons that interface with the programmers at the NSA every day, they didn't know about what I discovered. So I asked the obvious question. how in the world that what I discovered how did it even get in to the microsoft operating systems in the first place how was all this certified logical question I was told by a person that the way operating systems are certified for use by the nsa and nist has changed dramatically uh The evaluators that certify these operating systems are given a checklist, and the checklists are questions, and they have either a yes or no box. They are to adhere to the checklist, and that is the scope of their evaluation. They're allowed, essentially, no fluid thought. They go through the checklist. Yes, no, yes, no, yes, no. And I suppose if you get enough yeses, it's certified. I suppose if you get a few nos, things have to go gone back. I'm just, God help me. I'm spitballing with common sense, but that's the way things are done. And there has been so much that's changed in government because even all these agencies, everything is so compartmentalized. And, you know, I think a lot of that, I'm just spitballing here, but, you know, all of this is a result of you got a guy like Edward Snowden who's sitting in Hawaii and he's running a database and he's got a security clearance where this, what was he back then? I don't know, 25, 26, 27, something like that. And, you know, it used to be only at the top of our government that that there were literally security clearances with the ability to laterally move throughout all of all of the classified programs uh that's where the term need to know comes in you may have a top secret clearance but you have a top secret need to know only in your lane you know but here's this kid sitting in hawaii that's managing this database that has access to basically everything that's happening. All of it. And he can see it. And so, you know, I think a lot has changed for it all to become more compartmentalized, but it's like the pendulum swinging back and forth. It was too much one way, and now they've got it compartmentalized the other way. But we are in a mess, and And designing the technology that I've come up with, it all goes back to Microsoft defeating the monopoly lawsuit against them to have them broken up that started in 1999, going from memory now. So it's just somewhere along those lines. And the bottom line to all of it is, is that How Microsoft was not broken up was that they had to agree to allow competitive products inside of their system. So in order to do that, they had to publish specifications. So they still controlled the whole game. Well, the thing about it is, is this, is that there's a rule of thumb. I've designed in Microsoft my entire career, all proprietary code. I don't use open source. Okay, I just don't believe in it. I think open source on paper, on paper, open source is perfect. But then when you put the human beings into it, it all goes to hell in a handbasket. And open source, you know, in terms of vertical applications, I'm sure has a lot of use. But open source software and security, you know, it's just it's problematic. And I'm about to put out an article on it and what I found, you know, going on inside of open source. But anyway, to stay on point. The rule of thumb inside of Microsoft is that if you're trying to do something inside of their system and build technology, the more lucrative that environment is, the more you can really generate money, the worse and worse the specifications are. You know, you're just trained as a young engineer that, all right, if you want to do something truly intense inside of Microsoft, you're going to go to war. You're going to have, you know, there's going to be bits and pieces. It's not going to work. And you essentially have to resort to reverse engineering. Well, you know, when you're conditioned that way, you know, you understand the rules of the game and that's just something you expect. But, you know, after 9-11, open source began to emerge and these younger engineers were coming up, you know, And they didn't want to go through all of the fighting that you have to go through in Microsoft to be able to truly do something because the specs are encrypted at best. So here's open source that comes out with every I dotted and the T crossed. They don't have to fight. It's all there. So they gravitated towards it. But I would imagine that Bill Gates started moonwalking with delight. I mean, just absolutely moonwalking with delight because all of it shifted towards open source and all the eyeballs were taken off of Bill Gates and Microsoft. And so you have this series of cascading events. And, you know, Donna, you've seen me on your show at times. And, you know, I'm not a professional politician and I like to think I'm a nice person. Really and truly, I do. But how many times have you actually heard me talk with eloquence and, you know, use three and four syllable words and trying to impress people? with my knowledge. I don't think, it just is what it is. What I do is I design systems that work And I explained as easy as I can what's happening. And it's just very tough for this country to understand that they've been had for the past 18 years and no one inside of government brought this up. None of the cybersecurity industry brought this up. And now we're sitting in this situation to where the only logical conclusion that you can come from or take away from this situation is first of all the question is how much trust because of everything that's happened with these cascading events how much can you trust it well I don't think I've ever trusted it well but but I mean but but the truth of the matter is is that The only way that I really feel that I've got a chance in this country, if I'm ever going to become successful, last Thursday and Friday is the best thing that ever happened for me because there's just so many people that think that, oh, you know, I said, look, we're about to be hit with a nuclear tidal wave. You don't see what's happening in these systems. And all of these certified cybersecurity experts and, They don't write intense code. They don't do it. They can't bring it to the screen, what's happening under the hood, and watch it. And that's what I do. What's the logical conclusion when you're talking about this, the clear and present threat? How would this manifest in the lives of people? Well, the truth of the matter is, is that you have a series of events that started and the ramifications are still being felt. And first and foremost, common sense, again, God help me. You don't know what's inside of all these systems since there was an outage with no security for several hours. Now, look, there's a lot of people backtracking now and saying, you know, it all came out. When you read my article I published here yesterday, I included several screenshots because the powers that be came out and said they're open and susceptible to attack. And then there's a lot of retraction, all that. And I don't want to go down that path. that silly road, but you don't know what's inside these systems and these massive organizations. And if you do research as of today, as I published what I published yesterday, now it's coming out in many articles, how can these organizations be trusted? So we don't know what's in all these Microsoft systems. We know it took out the U.S. government. We know that the Department of Homeland Security was taken out. OK, government systems were brought down now. That means what government systems brought down. So that obviously implies state and local government. And our election voting systems are connected to the internet. They went down in Arizona. We could see it. We don't know what's in these systems. Now, if you want to take the road, the opinion, that, okay, everything's all right, well, that's great. That's your opinion. You're entitled to it. But if you looked at the series of events that happened, this never happened before, and all this went dark, what do you think, now logically and practically, and it all pivoted around these events suddenly happening with human error, And it's just a fact. I'm not implying anything. When the Republican National Convention was over, it's just a fact. That's a fact. Now, suddenly, what do you think is going to happen if there are more of these massive human errors that happen closer to our election? So what is the only thing that you can do to You've got these organizations that are having these incredible human errors and it's bringing down everything. In logic, in pure logic, all you can do is introduce a neutral new technology. It's something that is there to monitor. You can't go back to these same organizations that have had these massive catastrophic human errors. You can't because it's coming from them. So, you know, I've designed a solution a neutral solution to where I'm not partners with Microsoft CrowdStrike. I'm not partners with anybody. And what I've done is absolutely 100% legal that you can deploy and monitor what is happening. Now, the best part about me is I'm, you know, I have a combat veteran certified business. You know, it's a really small shop. I've got no foreigners, US citizens. And our priority is looking out for America, American citizens and American corporations. That's what I do. And, you know, I'm not going to hire anyone that has a green card or anyone. I'm 100% American. And so these events that are unfolding, I mean, if you want to blame me, you want to take it out on me because I'm, you know, crying wolf. After last Thursday and Friday, I don't think it's possible to cry wolf. Well, and I appreciate all you're saying, too. Ralph, do you have any way that you want to weigh into this? Well, I guess the thing that I saw with... And I think we have to have a brutal discussion on all of this, quite honestly. The thing that I saw with CrowdStrike is that... CrowdStrike, the file that was deployed was basically filled with nulls, which... caused the systems to just basically immediately crash. And that was in a ring zero privilege level. But which basically it for a lot of security programs, they say they have to be in a ring zero security level, which actually kind of goes back to that goes back a long ways. If you watch the original Tron movie, they kind of reference that fact. But that's not the only thing that runs in a ring zero privilege level on a, on a Microsoft system or really on anything with a monolithic kernel. You've got a lot of the drivers running that same privilege level. Not, not just, I mean, you need to have respect for what somebody says here, you know, cause I think we need to really go through it and, you know, dig down on this. Microsoft has kind of pushed toward trying to move at least portions of drivers into user space, and Linux has as well. But there's still a substantial portion of device drivers that run in Ring Zero. And so all of the stuff that people plug into their computers that they buy on Amazon and plug into them that have come from China... Do you trust every single vendor of every component of your computer to not have a vulnerability? And then you've also got all of the processors are backdoored anymore with the secondary onboard management components that are in both Intel and AMD's processors, as well as in a lot of the ARM processors now too, that have direct network access. You know, there's stuff that's backdoored in computers basically all the way down. And so the CrowdStrike thing was just kind of a symptom of that. But there's an awful lot of backdoors in intentional or otherwise. I think there's both in nearly every technological system. And then you start getting into cell phones and then you got even more problems because you've got all the base bands that are closed, locked down, remotely changeable firmware by the carriers. And in a lot of cases, those are so closely coupled with the rest of the system is to have zero privilege separation. You know, there's a lot of problems in tech right now. Sounds like it. If I could follow up, what I'm trying to say is I'm trying to to do my very best. And it's very hard because the articles I've just written, I've tried to not use technical terms. I want the common American citizens to understand what's happening. And Ralph, look, I know that you're probably very competent at what you do, but first and foremost, most of the viewers on this show have no clue what ring zero is. And in an arguably simple statement, arguably simple, I'm not gonna get off on semantics on any of this. It's the core of the computer where updates are supposed to go and where the operating system runs. They're updating the core. So all of the viewers will understand. So what is happening and what he just said is the core is being updated. And when he said that, Nulls were in the CrowdStrike file. What he's saying is that for all intentional purposes, arguably simple, they deployed a file that was meaningless, totally meaningless. And so the question is, with all of the checks they were supposed to go through, and to ensure that this worldwide update is proper, for whatever reason, at the last step, this critical file was replaced with a meaningless file. Meaningless. How did that happen? Yep, with modern mandates all over the place for continuous integration, you would think that that would have been caught. And so it was impossible for any computer to work with this particular file deployed to the extent, to the extent, there's nothing that CrowdStrike could do to retract it. They had to have people walk around in manually every computer. And from what I've seen, too, anyone with BitLocker-enabled computers It was so, because it's a Ring Zero loaded module, to even be able to clean it out, anyone with BitLocker had to unlock the BitLocker to be able to clean it out. So if people had auto-booting computers and they didn't have the recovery keys for BitLocker, there were several places that ended up having to dig up the recovery keys for their drives. It was a mess. Yeah. The thing about this is, in order for your audience, Donna, to understand this, to understand what's happening, there needs to be the use of computer terms removed from the scenario, from the environment. They need to understand in simple terms. And my articles are written in such a way to where – and I wrote this – in my articles that is meant to be understood by people who have never used nor will ever use a computer because it's too critical to our nation. It's too critical. And if if the so-called experts want to sit around and have a conversation, you know, trying to impress each other over their verbiage and understanding, I've had enough of that. to fill 10,000 lifetimes. I'm tired of hearing that. And so, I think we got to have both though, Bob, because it's like, I mean, there are some of us who, who understand it and want to be able to be educated too. So, I mean, I think it's, I think it's really, you know, we need to educate people on all levels and, and the stuff that you write and you, the, the is very easy to understand. And I really, you know, I really appreciate that because there's so, there is so much, As you said, in order to keep up with cyber anything right now, it's almost impossible because it's changing so quickly. But I do think that there's quite a few people out there that do have, you know, our audience is fairly educated, quite honestly. And there's people out there that I think they kind of like both sides of the discussion because it is, you know, it can be relevant and we can learn things along the way. You see, this is where I kind of disagree and it's OK. I mean, a professional disagreement. You see, I happen to think that not much changed at all because I'm digging inside the operating systems. And when I have what I see in the backbone of these operating systems or communications protocols that haven't been changed in 40 years. Your phone, as much as you probably love your phone, whether or not you have Android or an iPhone. Depends on how many calls I get in a day. Well, the bottom line to it is what drives that phone, most of it, is 40-year-old technology. So there's just a lot of hype. There's a lot of hype and, you know, we're being inundated with artificial intelligence. And the truth of the matter is that's open source, you know, available on what's called GitHub. It's a website where you go out and you get free programs. And this artificial intelligence that everybody's just clamoring over is in the hands of China, Russia, North Korea and Iran and everybody else that hates our guts. You know what I really think is going on with the AI out there, honestly? I think that the problem is that they're moderating it, to your point. in other nations, but if they actually open source this stuff, I think they're scared to death that it's going to actually tell the truth because the stuff is out there and it's based on statistics. Well, I have another. Then everybody knows the truth and we just let the conversation flow and go into free speech and make sure everybody has access to it. I kind of like that process. Well, I have another take on it. I mean, you know, it just seems to me that, you know, all right, if it's so smart, have you thought about the people that actually wrote it? And if it's that smart, what happens if the people that designed it have their own agenda? That's the moderation. That's what I'm talking about. Yeah. It's not, you know, you really got it. There's a part of engineering. in what you do to where you're actually supposed to have enough discipline to where when you design systems, these systems are, you know, supposed to be, I mean, they're supposed to be to where they carry out certain mechanics and these mechanics are not really supposed to be oriented towards anyone's personal opinion. You know, I mean, I don't even know if that makes sense, but this is what you tried to do. I mean, that's not the case. It's kind of like, if I can use an analogy, and this is not really the best analogy, but it's kind of like building a weapon. And let's say you want to go build the most advanced pistol in the world, okay? Well, then you might do it. But the mechanics behind that pistol is supposed to be efficient and two-dimensional. And it doesn't matter where you point the loaded weapon and where you aim the barrel and how you pull the trigger. It's got no internal philosophy. It has no internal agenda. And the problem that's going on with a lot of what's happening in this country is is that there's computer programs that are written and then there are all these programs suddenly that have these functions and loops and things of that nature that the programmer's commentary is embedded in the computer programs. And it's just, it's an enigma wrapped in a quagmire. And I'm trying to be as respectful as I can be. But the truth of the matter is, you see, is I'm trying to get people to understand. And one of the things that I believe I've made a breakthrough in in my articles is that I didn't want to write anything using any of the previous terms that that are used in this industry now if you if you go back and you look at everything being written they use medical terms and they try to translate them over into the computer scientists which is in many ways you know a a very smart and logical thing to do um you know lots of medical terms used in in uh the computer scientists but I believe I'm the first to come up with And it is true. You see, these these networks have been compromised for 18 years and people don't know it because what they're waiting on is systems to go down. They don't know it. But when I wrote what I wrote and I felt compelled to write it. They don't realize that the medical term that's happening to all of our information systems throughout the United States and worldwide is that it is the same medical analogy as a cancer. If you go back and read my first article in the second, it's chapter two, the cyber cancer that's overtaken America. I believe I'm the first person in the world that's used that. And it's very appropriate because if you use the analogy of a person that's been healthy their whole life, And suddenly they get an ache or pain and later on in life and they go to the doctor and they run a test and they find out this cancer has been growing for years. And suddenly there's a train wreck. Here I am and I very much believe in God. I feel compelled to write what I wrote a week ago today. Or yeah, what's today? Yeah, today's Wednesday, right? A week ago for last Tuesday, I think this week. whatever the day is, but, and then I write what's happening. And I, I put in all the details and those exact scenarios begin to unfold Thursday and Friday. I, I mean, I just, I just believe that, you know, fate, and I just never known this to happen to another technologist. It's another first for me, but the bottom line to it is a cyber cancer has been going through our networks for years. There are people out there. Some are smart enough to know what's happening. A lot of people out there don't care. But the fact of the matter is that you have to make a decision for yourself as to what are the odds. What is the probability? What are the odds that a worldwide corporation... goes down and has an outage and then the next worldwide corporation goes through their checks and they deploy a file that that file will knowingly that file will knowingly shut down the world all this happens inside of eight hours um you have to come to your own conclusion to whether or not that you believe that these perfect storms, these people all had these incredible brain farts at the same time. You know, what is the odds of that? Go ahead. Go ahead, Ralph. What I like about this discussion is what I found with a lot of the people that I know who are researchers. And I know quite a few people that are in the tech community, actually. And when there's a challenge out there to say that There's like a perfect system that's going to take it all down. The great thing is we get the nerd army out there that will make it the autistic or nerd army, the weaponized autist that will jump on it and spend every minute of their life trying to figure it out, which I think is absolutely brilliant. And I love all of you all to do that. So what I was going to say is I think another thing to consider about the whole CrowdStrike thing is that the chief security officer there. And this is something that he tweeted this out himself that tweeted or messaged. Somehow he put this message out on the Internet himself that he was at the FBI for 24 years prior to what he was doing. Oh, and there's an inconvenient fact, isn't it? So, you know, it's hard to chalk it up to pure incompetence. I'll put it that way. And I tend to think, though, that the security problems with computers go back way further than 2006. I don't think we've had trustworthy computing since at least the 286 processor. I tend to. I mean, I miss the days of my Apple IIe where you could actually understand every transistor in a 6502 if you wanted to, and you could disassemble the entire operating system and step through it and examine it all. I mean, same goes with my old Heathkit computer. That runs on an 8080, and that's even still a little bit complicated for me, but pipelining really screwed up a lot of stuff. But there's that's I guess what I'm getting at with what I was saying earlier is I tend to think that no computer is actually trustworthy anymore. No modern computer. And they're compromised at so many different levels that you're right. You're right. But there's a term that I've waited. You know, Donald's been kind enough to let me speak. There's a term I've been waiting for. to use at the end of the show. I think we're probably getting close. And I'm going to explain the term. The term, all of this pivots around is legal liability. So you're damned if you do and you're damned if you don't. There is no way on the planet Earth that Microsoft or CrowdStrike, that they're actually going to initially come out at the moment there is this type of catastrophic failure and say, oh, we were hacked. The lawyers wouldn't allow that to happen because of the legal liability. Now, what's happening, they essentially have to make a choice. OK, well, we don't want to be sued because we're a hack, because we could lose or we come back and say, hey, this was a human error. All right. And there's going to be legal ramifications for all of that. They're going to have to deal with the legal consequences. I mean, CrowdStrike stocks already dropped, I think, 10, 13, 14 percent. Oh, on that note, one other thing that I saw, and this is something that I have not independently verified, but it would be pretty easy to falsify this, so I tend to believe it, is that that chief security officer also reportedly sold 4,000 shares of stock just a few days before everything went down. It's damning our whole government is what it is because they're involved in this. It's the whole thing is just one nasty little surveillance state mess. The reason why I believe that I'm interpreted by people to be a royal pain in the rear end is because I see what's coming. And it's bad. And, you know, the bottom line to it is, and I've said something, Donna, on your show earlier, and, you know, I'm sure it's annoying to a lot of people that hears this, but Bill Gates is moonwalking and laughing his ass off. He is because the way this country, the culture of this country is. This country doesn't want to sit down and read anything any longer. They want everything summarized. Give it to me in a short paragraph. There are so many moving pieces and moving parts to everything that's happening. And when you go back and you look at the articles I've recently published, I wrote them in the context of see the dog run. And I only covered what is necessary. I didn't go into anything else and I explained it in terms of see the dog run. And those articles are eight and nine pages. And it's all critically important information. I've revised it, revised it, and revised it. And I cannot get people to sit down and read, even if it's in front of their face. And I want to say one last thing about what I've experienced. And I don't want to mention the person's name. All I'm going to say is this. There is a person at an incredibly prestigious university. This person graduated magna cum laude in the computer sciences and engineering with his bachelor's degree. He received a magna cum laude in his master's degree. He magna cum laude in his PhD. He is the chair over... the College of Computer Sciences and Electrical Engineering. This person on the planet Earth is never made below an A minus. I am not that kind of person. I got my degrees. I went into the real world. I talked to this person about what was going on inside of Microsoft. Very humble, very humble, knowing that esteemed academic environment where I'm probably not smart enough to even go in and take the test, much less this guy aced everything he's ever touched. So very humble in talking to this guy. And it was a man, I'll say that much, but he was an expert on Microsoft systems and in a very key area of this country. And something that's about to happen. And he made these statements to me, passing statements. And 100% of what he said was wrong. And I had to very, very politely and very, very, very cautiously say, suggest some possible ways of looking at things that he might want to consider and there was a whole bunch of dead silence and he said to me okay well send me information he said I'm telling you right now if you write anything into me longer than a paragraph I'm just going to put it the email and trap I'm not I'm not reading anything more than a paragraph That's what he said to me. So obviously, I just hung up. Never even sent him anything. There's no way on the planet Earth you can explain this in a paragraph. And this is what our culture has resorted to. Now, if people don't like what I'm saying, then accept and embrace what happened last Thursday and Friday. That that's just the way it's going to be. And accept and embrace... that what may happen at this election is that it may be called off this election has a good chance of being called off because the integrity of systems have been compromised and the election may be postponed to the indefinite future now let's just fast forward for a second to the election and think about that happening. But then let's go back to a week from last Monday. Everybody was at the convention. The world was going on. Everybody thought everything was OK. Then what happens? Thursday night and Friday, everything shuts down. When was the last time in your lifetime you remembered everything just going dark with all the computers? And oops, two major corporations had human factor problems. Never happened before. Never. And so suddenly, what I'm saying now, so if it happened last Thursday and Friday, how do you know there's not going to be another human factor problem? And boom, suddenly nothing's working. When in fact, all these Microsoft election voting systems connected to the internet. So now, while I might be considered a royal pain in the butt, How stupid or foolish do I sound now? Well, I think another thing, too, to consider about all of the trust we have placed in Microsoft for all of this stuff is you look back at the history of Microsoft and Bill Gates, even by, I think he made a comment sometime around 2002, if I remember right, when the development of Windows XP was happening. he made a comment that he had a hard time using Windows XP and that he didn't understand it because he was already so far removed from the process of developing the operating system. And he was incredibly critical of the development teams at the time. So by that point, he was already pretty much kind of pushed out of his own company. And so the questions there become, number one, how did he continue amassing a fortune after that? Is it the same guy? How's that? I'll go into conspiracy world here because it usually turns out to be truth. And number two, if he was pushed out of his own company and, and I, I mean, even building Microsoft, I tend to think that Bill Gates was more of the face person and Paul Allen actually had a significant contribution there. I do think Bill Gates did some of the development of it. However, for him to get basically pushed out of his own operating system and... Okay, his own operating system, that's debatable too, because they bought DOS from somebody else. But to get pushed out of his own company like that leads me to wonder, who's actually running Microsoft? And is this basically just anymore being effectively run by the deep state? uh, the, the internals of Microsoft to be able to push it in the direction that they want. Okay, nerd, get on this. The only last comment I could make, and Donna, I want to thank you for bringing me on today and, you know, tolerating me. Hopefully you can tell I've got a little bit more of a, I guess, presentable, uh, uh, spectrum about myself. You see, when I first started coming on your show, it's been a while since I've been in the media and I've had to dust off all the cobwebs. And so here's what I would like to leave everybody with. No matter the problem, no matter computer sciences, mechanical engineering, electrical engineering, no matter if it's a chef pastry shop, if you've got two or more people together and there's a failure. And this is in every aspect of business, road paving, anything. You've got two more people, it's a failure. And there's a failure. What is the action that whoever's trying to fix the problem, if you've got two or more people together and it's failed, what do you do? What has gone on since the history of man You bring in another party. You bring in somebody else because these two or more people failed. You bring in another party. Like I'd like to think for everyone to believe is that I tried to make an honest buck, and it is absolutely the truth. I do my best to try to do that. I've designed a neutral system. All of these failures from these major organizations, you don't know who's what. You get into who shot Johns. The common sense response would bring in a neutral party. That is really and truly, no matter how much people hate it, that is how problems have been fixed since the history of man. And I believe I'm the first small business or any corporation of that matter to develop any kind of core security, you know, that's, uh, inside of the United States and it's all now patent pending. And I'm trying to put a neutral technology that will absolutely show what's happening inside of these systems. And it wasn't easy at all. It was terrible, terrible, terrible, terrible to give Ralph an idea. Uh, In this particular area of the Microsoft operating system, you have to write in what's called, you have to write in the programming language C. You can integrate some C++, but it's all at the, and I'm going to use a term here, but it's called a Unicode binary level. It's all in binary machine code, all right? It's all intentional in this area, and it is arguably the most intense area of the computer sciences because it goes back to binary machine language in the first IBM computers ever sold to Germany in the 1930s. This is what they're doing inside of security on the Microsoft system. And that technique is 70 some odd years old. And there's not that many people that know how to write at the Unicode binary level, especially When the specifications are all wrong. OK, so, you know, I've been able to do it and it really cost me a lot in my life. But we're in a situation to where, Donna, I'm going to ask you one last question and that's it. What do you think after what happened last Thursday and Friday? What do you think the probabilities are that something is going to happen the closer we get to this election? My friend, I've been praying for it to happen. And if you really want to know the truth, because this whole evil system has to come down. And, you know, it's like that's the honest truth, because there's too many fingers crossed. in the pie here all the way across it. And we got to have a permanent solution. And so I'm not afraid of these things happening. You know, if you're smart, you're backing up offline and having it in a copy that, you know, that you can you can even if they go in and they manipulate your data. that you have something at some point in time to be able to carry on. So for me, I'm not scared of it. I've been praying for it for years because I think that our society is so broke right now that first of all, if you're doing the right thing, let them buy all they want. I don't really like it. And if I could end it, I would end it today. But at the end of the day, if you're doing the right thing and you document what you have, you got nothing really to worry about. And if you do your backups, you've got nothing to really worry about. So I don't want anybody out there to be panicked either because we have options. And so for me, I look at this and I'm like going, I'm waiting for this to, I really hope that this whole thing goes down. I really do. Because you know what? People like you and I and people that are just everyday people, we're going to pick up and we're going to go on. We're going to get together with our friends and family. We're going to do things that are more society or community-based. And that's okay. It may not look the same, but it might be better. And sometimes I think cleaning things out is a... isn't a problem if we need to keep our systems up for the things that we need you know to keep going as such back up your stuff back it up and then if there's other options out there to protect what you have to keep the bad guys out uh back it up keep a redundant copy that you can compare against when they got in you've proven it beyond a shadow of a doubt that they can get in behind the system You know, Ralph knows it. You know it. A lot of people know it. So the point being is that there's going to come a day in court where these people are going to have to face the fact that they are framing honest people, that they are doing bad things. I mean, MIT is notorious for it. Look what happened with Aaron Schwartz and they killed him for it. He got in behind the MIT servers and found a massive network of child porn and such, downloaded it. It took him eight hours to download what he got, which tells me that they had lots of video in there. But that was MIT servers. So when we go back into that, that started a cascade of all kinds of things happening. James Dolan got wrapped up in it. They killed both of them for exposing this stuff. But the point being is on an individual network, you know, we can try to protect ourselves as much as we can in this world, but we're in a fallen world and things are not always controllable that we do. You know, we can try to make, you know, to lessen the damage. But the point being, I guess for me, Bob, is I've been waiting for this to happen for a long time and praying that for this stuff to happen because I think we're going to come back with a better system and all the bad guys involved in this. they're going to be brought to justice for the crimes that they have committed. And I look forward to that day. It's going to be a little bumpy, but we're going to have people such as yourself and Ralph who have dug into things and the nerd army out there, which I'm proud of. I'm proud of all of the people out there that have been honestly working tirelessly in these areas to keep people safe, They have pride in what they do to fight against all the bad guys out there. There's a lot of them out there. Usually they've got ripped up tennis shoes and they're working in Linux or something like that. And in systems that are a high level and such. And I just say my hats off to everyone. who's out there, who has been working against this organized crime syndicate that's infiltrated our government, that's probably got the FBI, CIA, Mossad, GCHQ behind it, all of them. But at the end of the day, their plans are going to ultimately fail because they are godless. They're worthless. And it's going to come to an end. And I hope that it's God himself that brings this entire thing crashing down. I really do. I pray for that day. I hope I live to see it. Everything you said was very correct. There's a term I want. tell your audience about when I brought up what is the oldest way to fix problems when two or more people, they bring someone else in because they have to be there. There is actually a term that is used throughout our industries to when problems occur to fix things. It's called red team. You can run an internet search on it. You'll see red teams all over the place. Well, our country is now in a red team mode. It really is. I mean, this self-preservation. And, you know, what I hope you don't mind me saying is I like to invite anybody in your audience that, you know, I'm trying to do what's right. I'm trying to make an honest buck. If they want to contact me, you know, please feel free to contact me. This has moved into a situation to where because of the events last week, I think it's safe to say that we don't know what's on all of these computers. There are terms out there, technical terms for type of malware that can't be discovered. All right. That they, people do not know what's there. They, you know, what, what them founds me over all these intellectuals and it and security is that when there is a problem out there that they can't fix, they'll give it a term. And to intellectually discuss it, quit giving it, just fix it. Okay, but there's a term out there for the malware that can't be discovered, and it's called advanced persistent threat. Well, it's a threat inside of our systems that we haven't discovered. We know something's there. That term, APT, has been around, I think, at least 20 years. So what do you think happened when all this went down? I'm used to hearing the term APT usually used in a hacking sense from an external entity in a rootkit used for an internal problem. Well... I don't want to get into all that. The bottom line to it is, is that there are computer programs on install that can't be detected. Let's just leave it at that. But there's different ways you can say this. I'm not going to get into some intellectual conversation over that. The point being is that they're there. They're there. And the bottom line to it is, is what can we do at this point? And the only thing you can do is what traditionally has been done since the history of modern business, bring in a red team. And you can't depend on the people that were managing this because of the failures. So we're in a bad situation. It's amazing how many people that are going to want to sit down and just intellectualize all this and do nothing but talk about it. I'm not that kind of person. I designed systems to interface into these operating systems that are going to show me what's happening. That's the only realistic approach. It's good to get out there and work on these things and find solutions because we're always going to have problems. There's never a time that we're not going to have problems that we're going to have to face. And I think that the real positive part is that there are people working on them like yourself and such. to be able to address these problems and bring everything forward so we can talk about them and realize that we're going to have something that we're probably going to have to deal with. And what's the quickest way to deal with them so that we can have some security and knowing that it's going to be okay, no matter which way this goes. Okay. I just want to follow up one last thing, what Ralph just said about advanced persistent threat and rootkits. A rootkit is computer programs that are installed at the core of the computer again. It's at the root, it's the root, the core of the computer, okay? Security went down worldwide. What could have been installed at the core of the computer? These are the terms that must be used for the common intelligent citizen to understand what's happening. Do you think I got it? I got another question asked. I'm going to be a little bit of a of a, you know, just I like to bring up other things because I think differently than other people. Right. So do you think that there could be some really good guys in behind the scenes, too, that might be fighting this? that are drawing them out so that we can see what's happening behind the scenes. Oh, I know. There's good guys out there, too, that are doing this. Did you see what happened in Iran with their nuclear program? That was amazing. That was cool. That was one of the coolest hacking, good guy hacking systems that I think any of us have ever seen. I mean, talk about brilliance. And they set Iran back 20 years to their nuclear development. And so I'm not quite as the sky is falling. I'm more like, let's see what's happening and handle the problem. But have you looked into what happened in Iran? It was brilliant. Well, there's a lot of good people left in this country. I know for a fact. I've never actually worked for Microsoft. I've intentionally never partnered with Microsoft. The reason why is I don't want any parameters placed on my thinking. All right. What I can think about, what I don't think about. All right. I'm not I'm not that kind of a person, but I do know. I mean, there are older people that have left that a lot of them for years and years and years know exactly who I am. But they were good, good, good people, very talented people. Yeah, there's a lot of good people out there. I'd like Ralph to explain what happened in Iran because this is one thing that both of us were watching this kind of like unravel. And it was something that took them years and years and years and God's blessings to be able to carry this thing out. It's amazing. Can you, yeah, that was, that was really cool. Positive vibes for the day, Bob, because this is, this is, I believe there's good guys working behind the scenes and this will hopefully give you some positive, positive things to walk away with today and, and feel good. I mean, I hope you don't think that I'm trying to paint a glooming picture. I'm just trying to express facts. Yeah, realistic is good, but you got to listen to this because this is amazing. This is so funny and so positive in the fact that these guys, that there are some really good guys out there that will spend every breath of their life messing with and screwing with the bad guys. Yeah, so basically the end goal of it is, was to mess up Iran's centrifuges that they were using for uranium enrichment. And so what they did, I'm going to work backward from their goal out to how they actually implemented it. So what they did is they broke into the control computer system basically for the centrifuges. and tweaked it just slightly so that the centrifuges would run up and down from their exact RPM that they had to run at to function correctly. They went up and down from that and did it in such a way that the average speed of them at the end still matched up with what it was supposed to be so that people wouldn't catch it. And, uh, but, it sat outside of those parameters enough to screw it up and result in yields that were so low as to be unusable. So backing up from that, the problem is these computers are not connected to the Internet. So they had to figure out, A, a security vulnerability in the software for the control computers. At the time, you heard a lot about SCADA systems, and that was part of what brought the attention to that was this incident in Iran. So they had to figure out a security vulnerability in that software and in the operating system to get to it. And they had to figure out how to cross an air gap where things weren't connected to that network directly. So they had to engineer a way to have a vulnerability cross that on like a flash drive, if I remember correctly. But to get that to them, They also had to infiltrate the computers that were connected to the internet outside of that air gap zone. And so they had to figure out vulnerabilities there to be able to hide the software on the flash drive, to get to the SCADA systems, to break into the operating system, to break into the SCADA software, to mess up the centrifuges. The whole thing was just, it was brilliant. And if I could ever, I would love... to meet the guys that did it and shake their hands and just, that is the most impressive hacking I have ever seen. But on the other hand, if I was on that team, it would be the greatest honor for me ever if nobody ever found out who I was. Are these people still alive? No one knows who they are. Nobody knows who they are. I would submit they're probably not alive if any of this leaked out. It was theorized that it was a joint operation between the U.S. and Israel, but nobody ever fessed up to it. Well, the truth of the matter is that... It's just fun to watch it from the outside is what's really fun because there's people out there that are way smarter than any of us sitting in this room right now. And it goes back to that asymmetric threat model of, you know, even with Iran's nuclear program, as many things as they did to try and guard that, there are some people that just live for trying to break into and outsmart Iran. someone's defenses and watching that was just that, that was such a brilliant thing. Those guys are, that is the most impressive hacking that I have ever seen. Well, the world, a great service really. Well, yeah, but there's one thing that's overcome this country and part of the cancer that I haven't mentioned. And that's a term called analysis paralysis, right? I mean, you can there's so many people in this country of their intellectual conversations that they'll talk about it and talk about it and talk about it and play the if game, if game, if game to the point where by the time they're finished with it, it may be just a monstrous problem that something needs to be done. They've they've intellectually discussed it to where they've decided to do nothing. And we're in a situation in this country, even with what happened last Thursday and Friday, to where it'll be intellectualized and intellectualized to the point where many people will decide not to do anything. And that's just the world we live in. Well, and with that said, I think there's a lot of brilliant people out there that are just going to screw with them all to their last breath. And my hat's off to anybody that does that. It's a wonderful time to be alive and to realize that you can't kill the American spirit, no matter how hard they try. There are some of us out there that will never stop fighting, that will never sit back and will never quit. And we will spend our entire lives, you know, pissing the whole world off if we need to, to try to write this for our friends and families and such. And I think I'm a lot more positive than you are, Bob, on this, because I think that there are people that that are willing to to put themselves forward like yourself and like Ralph and such, who work tirelessly to expose and and deal with these kind of threats and people that have stood up against all odds, such as like General Flynn or President Trump, the rightful president of the United States, or Admiral Rogers. Have you ever read what Admiral Rogers has done? That guy is amazing. And they'll never stop fighting the evil in the world and protecting those they love. It's not that they hate the evil, though they hate the evil, but they're fighting for what they love. And when you have that behind you, fighting for what you love or the good in the world and being willing to step in the way, and even if you lost your life, it'd be worth it. And I think there's a lot of people out there like that. I mean, certainly you are like that. You went through combat and there's a lot of people out there that feel that same way, that they are willing to lay their life down because of the love they have for the other people around them in their country. And I just hats off to everyone out there that's done that. It's a wonderful time to be alive, to see this coming to basically a head. And all those things that have been around for so many years are being exposed. It never changed it from yesterday. What changed is we have knowledge of what's always been there or been there for decades. And now if we unmask it, we can fight it. And that's a good thing. So I think that that's a great place to be in. So we're going to leave everybody with that because I do believe in that. United States. And I believe in the fact that there are good people out there who care. And I believe that all of us can step forward and become part of this wonderful, wonderful system and say, if the system goes down, okay, great. What are we going to do? We're going to invite people over. We're going to try to figure out how to feed each other. We're going to step up and help each other And and just as you've done and Ralph's done and and Bill and Karen and all the wonderful people out there. And, you know, we're going to we're going to be OK. We'll get through this and we'll help each other in the process. And it's a wonderful thing. Well, I just don't want me saying everything I've done is to succeed, not to fail in what I'm depending on in my life. or people that are finally going to come to the conclusion that they're really concerned about self-preservation. And so, you know, I've got technology that can really clear up a mess. So everything I've done, and it is the truth. I worked so hard on this that I had to go in the hospital for 30 days. I underwent four major operations. And by the grace of God, you know, I'm actually 100% healthy as if it never happened. So it was very, very difficult and very tedious. A lot of people don't seem to like that, but I did not do this to fail. Well, and I think if we all get in together and use our time and our talents and everything that God's given us to help each other, this is going to be a great world because we can defeat this kind of evil. And, you know, we can all work together to have a better future going forward. And I just love that about our opportunities here and the mindset for serving others and that sort of thing. I think it's important. So let's just say a prayer and we're going to end our day here today and go make the world a better place as soon as we close down here because we've got opportunities every minute of our day. Dear only Father, thank you so much for Bob and Ralph and Karen and Bill. And all the wonderful people out there that are fighting for this nation and are standing for something, seeing a problem and going to work to fix it. There's people all over this world that you have put in place to fix lots of problems, not just one, but all of them, because they're all important. And all the gifts that you've given us and the things you put on our hearts to change things never comes down to one person. It's all of us working together and looking at each other and saying, you know, I see you've got a problem. How can I help? How can I serve you? How can I be the person? The solution in the hour when we're called. And we thank you for putting us into that position. Thank you so much for giving us always peace that passes understanding whatever comes our way. And also knowing that you have put the path in front of us. Path is always good. You might change our directions a little bit. You might change the way we look at the world. You might do things, all kinds of things. But it's always going to be to give us something better. And we trust you every step of the way. You're always good all the time. And looking forward to the stay ahead of us. Even the things that are difficult, they are a wonderful gift to us. And it's all the way that we look at it and draw closer to you, listen to you, and continue to move forward as you guide and direct us. Thank you so very much for being a great friend to us. We want to be a friend to you. You've been wonderful to us. Please bless everybody out there with your peace that passes understanding with strength, with wisdom, with discernment and knowledge, as well as a calm heart, steady hand to anything that we undertake, because you will give us everything we need in your time, in your space, accomplishing your goals and may your kingdom be on earth as it is in heaven. We, we, we want that. We want to be under you, not under this system of Babylon that we've been under, but following you every step of the day in truth and righteousness and, uh, and, uh, for all good reasons in precious name, we pray of Jesus Christ. Amen. Thank you guys so much for being here. Have a great day today. And how did they get ahold of you, Bob? Pardon me. Oh, Bob at CyberDetectionServices.com. That's Bob at CyberDetectionServices.com. My cell phone is 615-478-9624. 615-478-9624. The most amazing thing I'll leave you with is super positive. OK, here's what I do to show people what I can solve. You go into the firewall rules where there's hundreds, several hundred, maybe a thousand Microsoft firewall rules. My technology is so powerful. I click one button. They're all gone. Nobody's ever heard of that in the United States. I click one button and I repopulate everything with my rules. That's not supposed to be possible. I'm in total control and I can legally control Windows Defender. That's great because you're giving everybody a place to go if they're afraid or they want to have an action. And I think that's wonderful. Say your phone number again so people can find you, please. 615-478-9624. 615-478-9624. I'm not real big answering the phone. If you'll just leave me a voice message, I'll get back to you. That sounds great. Well, thank you for sharing that today. And I'll post the article that you put out there to make sure that everybody can see what's going on so that they have the ability to have that information that you put together. I find your information absolutely wonderful. Because I think you distill it down into something that's very easy to understand. And I love that. So everybody, have a great day. Okay, this is where we go to. Go to BrandonBergerGovernor.com because I'm the best non-conceiver who has ever not conceded in the history of the United States. And we're not going to concede. By the way, I'm glad President Trump's visit to Michigan went well. Yeah, I am too. I was a little concerned about it, um, because he was going into the belly of the beast here in, uh, in Grand Rapids. And, and, uh, I think that all of us who see threats, we need to say something and we need to be able to say it however we want. And we feel like we need to say it because we're all gifted in having different ways to look at things. And I think I'm, I'm glad to set brought that up because it was, uh, It was a concern for many of us. I heard a lot of people saying, hold the phone here. He's going right into enemy territory. And I hope after that last assassination attempt that people are actually watching out for him and protecting him and his beautiful family who has served this country in an absolutely unbelievably stellar way. We are just thankful for everyone who has served. Well, I want to ask you a favor. I want to ask you a favor. You see, I worked in reserve law enforcement assisting, never took a dollar for over 20 years. And I still have a state of Tennessee badge and I'm certified in security. And I've worked a lot of perimeter security. And usually you see the rule of thumb is that when you have a visiting dignitary, If he's in town for an hour, there's usually about 1,000 page security plan generated because of all the routes, everything involved with the threat environment. And the bottom line is this, there's a security plan. All the threat environments are supposed to be established. All threat environments, all positions are supposed to be identified, secured, and guarded. There are supposed to be several eyes looking at the security plan. How in the world did a building approximately 150 yards away from President Trump with in higher positions how was that not in the security plan and how was it not identified secured and guarded with a post with a post there there's supposed to be several eyes there's not supposed to be one person how in the world How in the world was something like that missed? So the bottom line to all this is, is that there's this catastrophic failure of these threat environments that were never even reviewed. This is the question, Donna. So if you could, with all your contacts, with everything going on in this assassination attempt, There are these bureaucratic failures, and you're talking about people's lives here. One of those- I agree. That's why I was trying to blow the warning on that. It's like they botched it in Butler. There was a massive problem there. with an FBI agent that was sitting right there. And all this other stuff, they botched it. And it's like, if they're going to come into Grand Rapids ahead of the snake, somebody better be paying attention to this because it's not just President Trump that would be at risk. It would be anybody anywhere, actually. But the point being is that I just hope that they're moving forward to protect him and his beautiful family. I'll tell you what, he's a brave man. He's paying big bucks for that private security service. I can't say that I blame him. I mean, in the latest news, I hope you don't mind me saying this, is that obviously we all know now there's an FBI investigation. But the Department of Homeland Security has opened their own independent investigation. So you've got, you know, the Justice Department and DHS with these two independent investigations. You know, my Jedi Knight powers and my mind reading skills are pretty rusty. But, you know, this administration, Biden administration, these agencies are not playing well together. No, not at all. So with that said, that's okay. We got God to rely on and such. Oh, yes. It's all imploding, all this evil. yeah and it's good it's good to look at and evaluate it you know and and be able to go into the rest of the day too and know that it's not hopeless we just got to keep going and refuse to quit and lay down with that said um god bless you all god bless all those whom you love god bless america if you don't have a good example be one do something today pick something out today that you can do to bless another person, to make this world different, to plan on maybe some preparedness and such. You know what I'm going to do today? I'm making sauerkraut today. I got a new crock, so I thought I would start making sauerkraut today. And I've never mastered fermentation. I've done pretty much everything else, but fermentation has never been something I've done. So I've been watching videos. I've got my new crock, a couple of heads of cabbage, and I'm going to make sauerkraut today. How long does it take? How long? You can you can you can ferment it for between five days and five weeks. My dad used to make it when I was little, but I never paid attention. And now he's gone. So today's the day that, you know, I'm hoping dad's a little on the shoulder, you know, telling me what to do. But I know I'm watching a bunch of videos and stuff. So I'm going to try to master making sauerkraut today. So that's my positive thing. So go pet your animals. Have a great day. Oh, she's right here. She's laying right here. There she is. There you go. Oh, yeah. Go hug. What's your pup's name? Sissy. Sissy? Yeah, she's a family pup. She loves kids. Yeah. She doesn't like the deer. She doesn't like the deer in my yard. She don't like that, but she loves. Does she help you with some PTSD? Oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah. As a matter of fact, she's trained me. She's trained me. There's nothing better in the whole world than having an animal next to you that, that you can look in their eyes and see just pure love. with no agenda, and they seem to calm us down really well in all kinds of situations. I just can't say W-A-L-M-A-R-T around her because when I do, she knows what that is. And when I take her in, all the greeters take her. They love her. They run off to the eye department. They're all petting her, and they hand her back to me and say, we just got our daily positive fix. So she's a pretty special little girl. She loves kids. That's so precious. She's very cute. We should go to Walmart today and buy her a – oh, sorry. I said it. Did you see her ears? Did you see her ears? Look at her face. Look at her face. Yeah, take her to the W word and buy her a little doggy biscuit or something. Oh, my gosh. Oh, my gosh. All right. Well, listen, y'all have a great day. And look, I want you to know from this point going forward, I'm trying to be as positive as anybody can be. We're just in a mess. We don't have to be afraid, though. It's going to be okay. And we just have to take the day as it comes. Look at what's coming in front of us. Do our best with what we have. Trust God. Pray. And you know what? Answers always show up. when you least expect it, when you trust God and say, all right, God, this is take Jesus, take the wheel here. This is out of my control. And really good things happen. Like I can tell you, I can tell you some wonderful, wonderful stories about actually seeing and experiencing God walking me through some very, very volatile situations. And you can have that peace of God And then watch things happen that you'd never imagine would even be possible. And I think that's what he likes the best is he likes impossible odds where it becomes not about us, but it becomes about him taking care of us as his children when things aren't going so well. And when we let that go and say, you know, today's going to be okay. God's going to take care of you. He's going to take care of your puppy. He's going to take care of all of these threats that we have. And he's uniquely equipped people such as yourself and Ralph and myself to handle problems that are coming our way. And we may not know exactly what that looks like. We may have to take it one step at a time. But it's going to be okay because each step we take will have the answers as we go. And, you know, you're smart. We have smart people out there. It'll be okay because we'll be able to punt our way through things. And if one way doesn't work, we'll find another way. And God will open up doors and windows for us. And we can elegantly and confidently walk forward knowing that there's no problem that's too big for all of us to walk through together. And we'll help each other. It'll be for preservation of each other. There's a wonderful story that I like to bring up once in a while. A guy goes up to, he dies, and he meets God. And God takes him down through rooms to see. First he shows them a picture of our room, and people all have four-foot forks. And they're starving to death, and they're trying to feed themselves. And God goes, that's hell. They're trying to feed themselves with these four-foot forks, and they can't reach their mouths. They go to the next room and he says, and this is heaven. And there's four foot forks and people are using them to feed each other and they survive and they help each other. That's the future we're walking into. And I think it's a really good thing to keep in mind. If you fall down, I can pick you up. If Ralph falls down, you can pick him up. We can pick each other up, and it's going to be okay. And I really think that's the way that God intended this. So you know what, everybody? Have a great day. Be the example if you don't have one. Thanks for being on today, Bob. I've got to go here. Yeah, have a great day. Ralph, it's nice talking with you. You guys are going to have a wonderful time talking nerd stuff here, I'm sure of it. And this would never end. So have a great day, guys. And I'm not sure exactly what's going to happen on Thursday and Friday because it looks like I'm going to be traveling. But I think I'm going to be playing some interviews from Turning Point. And or I might have my citizen journalist panel come on and just take the wheel while I'm gone. So have a great day. And I will be in communication. And we'll talk to you later. Bye-bye. Bye-bye, everybody. Bye.