Published Sept. 30, 2025, 9:01 a.m.
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Good morning. Welcome to Brandenburg News Network. I am Donna Brandenburg. It is the thirtieth day of September twenty twenty five. And welcome to our show today. I'm going to be on first nine o'clock with Karen the Riveter and then ten o'clock with Pro Se Mike. Looking forward to today's show as usual. So John had a conflict this morning and he he needed to bow out this morning because he had some family things going on, which is understandable. Anyhow, I'm going to bring Karen right on. We're going to start talking about the world. and what's happening, what's happening out there in the world. Morning, Karen, how you doing? Good morning. I told you question, question everything. Oh, that's a good title. I thought so too. I think we're going to do a Karen segment. That's just question everything. Cause I don't know about you, but I got, I went to the gym this morning. I try to go in and, you know, just, just do a couple of miles or something like that on a track. And, And carrying weights and such. Right. And so I got there and I ran into a gal and we were talking about the Charlie Kirk thing for a minute. I'm like, and she's kind of done with it. I was done with it. And I'm like, I'm sorry, but all I see is pimping the dead going on out there. And it's really disturbing to me. Very, very disturbing. The narratives and the narratives that are out there are so disturbing that I think people get caught up in their emotions and they stop thinking. So I went through this and we ended up on on the fact that neither one of us believed anything about the nine eleven narrative she's like you want to really blow people's minds let's go to nine eleven and i'm like yeah i've already been there since nine eleven so that's an easy jump for me but anyhow i think that we need to talk about love is asking did we lose our horse i had to cut the broadcast short yesterday because somebody at the barn sent me a picture of one of our horses it was my daughter's first horse And it looked like he blew a tendon in the picture. And I was like, oh, this is really not going to be a good day. Okay. So I decided I better get over there because nobody there was going to be able to address it. And I wanted to figure out whether we needed to wrap it, put him down or what was going to happen. So I got over there and he, uh, he did not have a blown tendon. Thank God we treated him. And there's a, there's another gal in the barn who's, who's, uh, pretty good at injuries. So she started putting a poultice on him. And after a while he was able to, to actually straighten his foot out a little bit. I think what we're dealing with is an abscess, which is, uh, We kept him inside. We we did some other things to him to help him out. And I think he's going to be OK. Now, with that said, my guess is, is we've got a little mini pony that's in the run next to him. And those two fight incessantly. It's like watching two Republicans in the room or two Democrats or Republicans. These these horses are absolutely politicians. Right. They got to be right all the time. Whether they're right or wrong, it doesn't matter. It's the one who kicks the hardest is always right. So they like to fight over the fence. My guess of what happened is that they were both being typical politicians arguing over nothing. And he probably kicked the fence and now has an abscess in that foot, which has traveled the pain has traveled up the leg. So we're going to see if we can get the abscess dealt with today. Cause I think that's what's going on, but it looks so bad. When I looked at that picture, I was like, all right, there's, he's kind of walking on the back of, of the leg there. I really thought we were going to have to put him down, but no, he's, he's doing well. And thanks for asking. Sometimes things aren't always what they seem and Like I always say, you got to get on the ground to look at things before you really know what you have. So I don't really panic about things like that. But if there's a big problem, I want to be there to take a look at it. So thanks for being concerned. Yeah, I do know what you're talking about. I'm laughing because Because you're talking to someone who's not here and then you pause as if she's going to answer, but she's not on the show. I figured that you would just answer and chime in in the typical Ed McMahon way and say. Well, I recognize too that this time of year, this may not have figured into any decision that you were thinking yesterday when you were closing up the show. But I know that for horse people, fall is... A tricky time because when you have an older horse, especially you're thinking this horse might not make it through this next winter. We don't know what to expect. And the last thing you want is to have to put down a horse in winter and bury them in the frozen ground. And that's just a practical thing that most people don't think about because, you know, everybody else has smaller pets or smaller versions of livestock and you can manage with that. You know, you go to a vet and the vet takes them away a lot of times. That's not what I prefer, but that's what some people do. And so you don't think about the practicality of having a horse that's ill or injured or older. And this is the time of year where a lot of people put down a horse that might be kind of healthy because they don't want to foresee a worse problem later in the winter. Winter is hard on horses sometimes, those older ones. We have, we had another, we have another horse that, that I, I kind of made up my mind that I was going to put her down before winter. She's very old and, and she's got some joint problems and such, and you could tell she was struggling. And she was losing weight very quickly. And I mean, some of the time you make those decisions just because you don't want to see animals suffer. I won't watch an animal just suffer unnecessarily. And when you do put them down, a lot of times they look at you with gratitude in their eyes because they see it as a very unselfish and loving act. I know they do that because I've seen it when we put horses down and they look up at you with their eyes that last goodbye. And it's full of absolute love. And it's like they're saying, see you again. You know, I mean, that's what it's like. And it's really kind of an amazing process to go through. I actually experienced that when my dad died, because I was with my dad when he died. And he was ready. And it was kind of an amazing thing. I actually saw his spirit leave. And that was kind of an amazing thing. But the gratitude and then like, you know, he was looking up and he could see heaven open up. It was amazing. He just, all of a sudden he was like, like that. And his eyes got really big and he wasn't able to talk for a while. And then at that moment he could, and it was kind of, it was kind of crazy. And when he was gone, you felt all the pain that he was under, It left. You could feel it gone. And I think horses are. So I made up my mind I was going to put this horse down just because I wouldn't watch her struggle through the winter. Right. Well, we changed her diet radically, gave her more protein. And all of a sudden she started putting more weight on. We gave her senior feed and all kinds of things to change that diet up. and she's doing pretty good right now. And so that one I think is gonna make it another winner. And because we also have a heated barn, it's not as hard on our animals as it is on other people's animals whose horses are outside all winter. When horses are outside all winter, it is brutal, it is brutal on them. And so you can really see a difference between say some of my older horses that have always had the care that we give them And ones that we rescued when they were older who had a brutal life. And that includes abuse and neglect. There's a huge, when you rescue a horse from abuse and neglect, it really, you can see how much toll it takes on them. And so it's kind of an interesting process, quite honestly, when you rescue animals. I know what you mean about the last day, the last moment, because I had a dog that was paralyzed from the neck down for a couple of weeks. And we had taken him in thinking that we were going to put him down that day because he had been struggling. But the vet said, no, I think this problem is he's gassy because of what he was eating or not eating because he wasn't able to eat. And he was like, no, I'm still good. You know, they choose it. They really do. And I was really glad that we didn't have to put him down yesterday because he's a great horse. And, you know, it's like and then it was an abscess. So I think that was a very happy, happy day to have a good a good outcome and that it wasn't catastrophic. But like it's just like the the water wars thing getting going on here. Do you know that everybody wants to talk about the EGLE Permitting System? Do you realize what the EGLE Permitting System is? They submit online They pay the money for the stupid permit and Eagle Rubber stamps it and they never come out, okay? People think that there's this oversight going on. There is no oversight going on out here or anywhere else. This is a plausible deniability for breaking the law for the townships and the contractors. That is it. They turned us down to come out and look at the project over and over. And people say, well, don't you think Eagle knows how to do their job? No, they don't know how to do their job because they're not doing their job. They will not come out on situations like this where they basically just applied for an online permit. I don't even think they still have one because it's not publicly available. And so they're just an agency that is set up to duck responsibility so these globalist pukes can steal our resources. And today we have an accuracy test for the election. And I talked about this on my TikTok video this morning. You want to know what these pukes have done? I'm going to just call them pukes because that's what they are. We've got nicknames for all of them now in our group that's fighting them here in the township. One of them is Miss Piggy. And I think we're going to get T-shirts for this because the conversation with the clerk, Peggy Sattler, yesterday was absolutely crazy. It was absolutely nuts. So what happened is somebody from our group got on the township website and all of a sudden this truth or this accuracy test for our voting systems, accuracy test, And they promoted or they didn't promote it. They put it on the site. They don't promote anything. They hide it is what they do. And if you're enough of a nerd that you're going to keep up on this every single day, you'll see how they're hiding their posting. Well, what they did is they put this truth or this accuracy test up for today at one to one thirty in Byron Township. So it looked one to one thirty. But if you went to the calendar and downloaded it to your phone, it showed up five to five thirty. So one of my buddies, Calvin, and there's a bunch of us that are at the core group. There's four of us in the core group, but there's a couple hundred people that are watching it. And some of the people we've watched have literally sold out. And I can tell you how they've sold out because after a tearful act at last week's township meeting, this person is like, oh, we have water. It's not a problem. I'm like, how in the hell did this switch that quickly? It doesn't happen. So I got a lot of questions on this, a whole lot of questions. So anyhow, so download your phone and it comes in at five to five thirty. So we called down there to to Miss Piggy Sattler down there, the clerk, and said, said, and I have this said, well, why is it? You know, we did this and it shows it at five o'clock, but it's at one. We want to confirm. She's like, oh, oh, yeah. She said, you must have been on a phone. Yes, it was on a phone. Oh, well, we know that there's a problem with it. It only shows up when you're on a laptop or a desktop correctly. So they know there's a problem putting out wrong information on the meetings. Most people are going to do it on their phones. They're not going to do it, sit down on a laptop or a desktop. I mean, it should be working on all things. So all I can say is that this is intentional. This is absolutely intentional that we brought it up to them several times. They don't fix the darn thing. And so it's putting out false information to mislead people on when that test is there. You got to be pretty sharp to go through all of this nonsense. I got to just tell you that it's just the way it is because every step of the process, they've got things in there to lie to you for plausible deniability. Oh, we did it. We posted this. You just, just that's how the one day, um, Remember when I texted you about the meeting that they said they posted that it was canceled? And I went in to see, was it on the website? It's probably too late because when they challenged you guys at the door, or you challenged them at the door, and she said, well, we posted it. And I thought, well, they might be able to go back later and post it And make it look like it was posted. So you always have to keep, always check before the meeting is scheduled. So I looked anyway. And there was nothing on the calendar. And you said, what? When I texted you. And then you sent me a screenshot where it was on the calendar. And okay, let's look at this. So I went step by step and screenshot how I got to the calendar where I was at. And it had a different appearance than the calendar on the bottom of the front main page. So there's two different locations where the location. Yeah, there's two different locations for the calendar and they. There's going to have two different things there. There's either something there or there isn't something there, depending on how you go about looking for it. And of course, it took me like five steps to get to the calendar the way I went because I was looking for meetings. But if you scroll down to the main page, the calendar is right there in the bottom, too. Would you like to hear the call? Oh, you have it on recording, of course. Absolutely, because they lie. And that's what I told the sheriff when he came after me the last time. I said, oh, I said, I record everything because these people are liars. And so here's the call. Let's go ahead and play it. For building, zoning, and permit questions, press one. For assessing questions, including... I'm taking tells. I'm taping. Hello. Hey, yes. Yes, this is Calvin. I'm calling to the township. We're just calling about the meeting tomorrow. It looks like there was something on the schedule for September thirtieth or the election accuracy. So when I download it to my calendar, it says five to five-thirty, but on the website it says one to one-thirty. Are you doing it from your phone? Yeah. Yeah, that's usually the problem. So if you do it off a laptop or a desktop, you won't have a problem. But I hear that from people that use their phones for some reason. With phones, it doesn't go with the right... You know, like Eastern Standard Time or whatever, so it's got to be something with your phone. But, nope, that's the right time. It's the one o'clock, so. On the one-thirty? Okay. Yep. And where does that happen at? It won't take very long. Right. Yeah, where does that happen at in the building? Is it just in the same place? Boardroom. Yep. Okay. Sweet. Okay. All righty. So, one. There you go. So they know what's happening and we have brought this up to them multiple times and they know it and they don't care. They will not fix it. And so the point being is if they know they have a problem, that's just one more way to hide what they're doing. Just like Eagle. Eagle isn't about oversight whatsoever. They just want to fill the reports out online to get plausible deniability. But that entire department needs to be absolutely struck from the existence from existence and everything that they've done as per Norton versus Shelby County this whole thing is just absolutely a complete and utter failure and you know what's really interesting is you know some there's a lot of people that that you know maybe not be as clear, direct, and to the point. Clear and to the point as I am. But you know what? If we're not clear and to the point with these people, they know what they're doing. This is absolutely intentional for this state. When you look at the amount of water theft over the state of michigan they know what they're doing they know how to hide it they know how to give the township and the and the contractors their little fake piece of paper to hide the theft and the con the violations of the constitution our rights our property rights our mineral rights all of it they know what they're doing no two ways about it because when we point it out to them they go oh yeah that's the way it works and you're like Wouldn't you think that you should be serving the people and making this actually work? Well, it's just the way it is. Really? I suppose if you want to cheat. Yeah, that's another problem they have with listening to attorneys instead of listening to the people. You're an audience member, don't you know? Yeah. And you're not supposed to have an opinion or shape their actions or correct them. and cause some accountability when they mess up. They create confusion and they're doing it intentionally. That one meeting that we had, they changed the terms of that meeting that I wouldn't sit down for. They changed those terms over and over and over. At first it was going to be, we're going to have a meeting at four o'clock before the meeting to make sure that, you know, that you get all your questions answered. We'll have the VK civil meeting. as well as the contractor there to answer your questions. I don't want the questions answered. I want the theft and the criminality addressed. And those were the people that needed to stand up by it. And they didn't. Then it was going to be after me. Then they gaveled out. Now, that was the one that you were at. That meeting. And then they gaveled the meeting out without any agreement from anybody else on the board. Don Tillman did it. Walked off with Peggy Sattler and the highest paid employees in the township. And I'm going to tell you right now, we should be asking some very strong questions. Oh, love brings out too. Oh, how nice. Most people cannot go at one thirty. It's not one thirty. It's one o'clock. So it's between one, one o'clock and one thirty for there. Come on down. Let's make sure we're watching their little sham show there because it's not there. There's no truth in what they're doing. It's all a show because our elections are run by the software, which is why we've got Venezuela surrounded with troops right now, because they have been involved in stealing our elections. Yeah, what a wonderful world we have. Oh, I wanted to say that I noticed on the call that she never really seems to apologize or say, yeah, we became aware of that and we're working on it. I don't know why that happens, but we have an IT guy working on it or nothing like that. Yeah, it's a problem with your phone. No, it's not. It's a problem with your system and you're not taking any actions to Even if the problem still exists, if they posted a notice right on the top of the page, it says, hey, we know there's a problem, you know, so that anybody who's still dealing with the problem will be at least noticed of the problem. But they don't even make that attempt. No, they don't attempt to fix it. And it's so because they haven't, they've literally, it's literally discrimination from people who don't have a laptop or, oh, that would be a good lawsuit, wouldn't it? We have to have a new word now, laptopist. Yes, because some people may not have a laptop or a desktop. So they're discriminating against those who only have phones. That really is a thing. Yeah, I had it backwards. It would be great, wouldn't it? Okay, so I'm going to add that to the list. Oh, yeah, we got a long list, don't we? Yeah, discrimination is those who don't have a laptop or that don't access the website through their laptop or their desktops. This is one of the things that's really frustrating for people because your grievance list gets really, really long after a while. The more you know, the more you're like, your mind is blown every day because you're like, seriously, that too? Like, in how many ways can they get things wrong? In how many ways can they trespass on your rights? And the more you see that, and I know this is happening with the people at large around the world, the more you see going wrong with the government, the more frustrated you are And the less likely that you're going to take a step forward to do anything about it is some people just shut down because they're just plain overwhelmed by it. Other people like you, it fires up because you're like, I can't. You're like the Declaration of Independence. Like, look, we told you ten years ago about this stuff and you're still doing it. And we're going to go to war now. OK, because you're getting out. We're, we're telling you off now. We're not, oh, oh, nice, please. You know, wonderful. Mr. King, could you please humble? We are humble, humbling ourselves before you to ask you to pretty please stop trampling on our rights. We're not doing that anymore. And we're not saying, okay, we're going to have to go to a physical violent or we're, we're never saying that, but there's, there comes a point where you have to, to stop and say, okay. I see what our founders did. I see the revolution that they decided they had to take. And not everybody was willing to move on that. Not everybody was willing to become a part of the military force. But it only took a very small number in the population, thankfully with the Lord's help. to defeat a huge force that come from across the world to come and trample them underfoot. They just had just enough. Just enough is all you need to say no and disagree and fight back. Now, we don't have to fight back when we have to stand up. and demand accountability. And there are peaceful ways, thankfully, that we can do that. But when we look at the sacrifices that our founders made to go that step and then to sit down on our rights and be like, well, that was really nice of them, but it's too hard now. It didn't work. The great experiment just failed. No, it didn't fail. The people failed. But that doesn't mean that the people who are left can't do anything about it, because we certainly can. And as we were talking before the show, one of the greatest obstacles we have is this mind war. I saw a post yesterday, is it the Democrats or is it China that's the greatest threat? And my answer was Americans. Like you said, Americans are the greatest threat. We've said that over and over again. I mean, for gosh sakes, we couldn't even manage a toilet paper crisis without losing our minds. I mean, when you look at that, that is crazy. And I don't think that people really understand the threats that are looming over us all the time. They're not serious because they're playing all the time. I want to show you this article that goes with water with a water wars thing. Okay. Surprised that the MLive got this right. I don't like any of the fake stream media. Why water rates have doubled this year for some West Michigan communities. I'm going to tell you right now, Georgetown is at a sudden, fifty-five percent rate hike that went into effect this summer while some residents are paying over six hundred dollars for water. And Georgetown. And this is what, honestly, I've been telling you that is going to be, we're going to be meeting with and talking about it. Kentwood up forty nine percent. Blundin Township, sixty four percent of a rate. And this is because they drain different locations to force people. I've been saying it. The warning's there. You're going to pay it if you don't get your head out of the sand. And I'm pretty sure everybody here kind of has this figured out. But they know what they're doing. They absolutely know what they're doing. And this is going to be one of the biggest fights that we're going to have for them to impoverish us. I'm going to show you another bit of a narrative here that came out. Okay. It's Byron Township. bunch of stock hat bureaucrat, you know, people who just want to, want to do so they put this water and this little hit piece out there to inform the people of byron township that okay in the past twenty years in the past twenty years growing from twenty thousand people in two thousand ten to twenty six in twenty twenty we're over twenty um twenty seven thousand right now thirty three percent increase since twenty ten And our tax rate has just gone through the roof to pay for the infrastructure upgrades that these developers who are on the board and on the oversight boards, so they can go ahead and develop and make lots of money, but they're requiring us to pay the infrastructure. So we're going to look at this and they quote V.K. Civil as well as Montgomery excavating and such and telling them that a key part of the process to construct the sanitary sewer requiring Montgomery excavating to dewater, there was no permission to dewater. and they could reroute it, but they didn't have permission to dewater. They literally stuck stab wells in the ground and casements that went forty feet in the ground to dewater this entire area and took over a billion gallons out of it. So this right here is a blatant lie. It's a blatant lie. They never had the permission, and when we told the Drain Commission what they were doing, they said, well, this doesn't make sense at all. And I'm like, no kidding, it doesn't make sense. And we've got all the documents to prove it. And the township, now they're trying to shut the people up and say, oh, we're doing it right. And they're lying. This came out on the twenty seventh of this month of September. So this is their damage control to try to shut down and shut them off. And another thing that I know is that the township is blaming me for not doing anything with the water. And they say it's because Brandenburg has a lawsuit. So don't step up. Don't say anything or you're going to get retribution, too. That's exactly what they're saying and what they've been doing. I understand why people won't stand up when when things go wrong. because they're afraid of retribution. That's exactly what's happening here. We are literally having the four of us who have stood up and tried to put the message out there. We're being followed. And one of the things that came through yesterday was one of the people had a DTE damage control truck block his driveway. And he's like, why is this damage control truck out here blocking my driveway? And the guy didn't have any answer. Last night, we had another one that it was a big white SUV that stopped in front of one of the houses and just parked there for a little bit. And there's more to it than that. They've broken branches off of trees to shut us down. And it's unbelievable. So, oh, you said that I started breaking up as soon as I put the website up? Yeah, I don't know if that's a technical issue or what. It was brief. So even when you had it up again, when it wasn't just the two of us on the screen, it stopped doing it. But last Wednesday, there was a lot of interference, but that happened even when we were off the air. So I'm just trying to figure it out. Last night, we did a meeting with a core group, and every time Kim started talking... it would break her voice up and we couldn't hear it. So we ended up having to have her clarify over and over again when she started talking. And it was when she was talking about something very specific that we're working on. And so one of the things that we're going to have to address And I talked to Dara Leaf about it yesterday. Dara and I are friends. And we were talking about this hundred and ten million dollar bond proposal so they can put it into sports and the arts for Byron Township. Yeah. And he's like, I can't even get a thirteen million dollar bond proposal passed in Berry County for a prison. And all the village idiots here that have moved in go, oh, yes, don't you want bigger, better classrooms? Yes, we need a better football statement. We need more toys, more toys. They are not connecting with the fact that this is going to cost them one hundred ten, one hundred ten million dollars. to the residents, the twenty seven thousand residents we have right now in Byron Township. This is going to cost us to pay for that bond initiative. And my question is, is who is literally buying and holding the bonds on this? Is it Goldman Sachs? Who is bankrolling this? Nobody is asking these questions. That's not even the interest guys. I mean that, you know, on what's going on here. I mean, are, are you, are you kidding me? I think part of the challenge for you, for you is that you think differently than other people think. And that's just being honest. And we've talked about this before. Like this is why I'm trying to talk about the narratives now so much, like with every story, there are some stories that I'll, I'll, I'll share a post because I think, well, that's, kind of interesting because i want to kind of keep an eye on that but there's other things and i'm like well okay let's talk about this from the grand perspective the ten thousand foot view let's look at this from the perspective of what are the narratives what are they trying to get us to do as a result of this story Because I don't know who started it, if it was Burning Bright or somebody else from Badlands Media, but they use the phrase, the term Psy Act and Psy Ops. So a Psy Act is like the buildings came down on nine eleven. We know that it's a fact. Everybody can agree on that. the psyops is everything that happens around that in, in the stories, you know, like they found the passport of the bad guy in the, in the rubble on the same day that it happened and things like that. Like those are psyops. So like what happened in Michigan is, I don't know if there's a PSYOP going on or if there's multiple PSYOPs going on. But I find some really strange circumstances between those two stories in the past week that I really am asking some questions about what has happened there. Do you want to go there? Because I'll do it. Yeah, I mean, I think we need to talk about this. I want to bring one thing up before we move off of water wars. Okay. Because Lubb said the same thing. She said, every time I talk about the water wars, water wars, water wars, water wars. See if it breaks up on me again. Is that the feed goes out. But look at this is behind it. And I was talking about this. I have talked about this multiple times. They're centralizing the power grids. They're centralizing the water grids. And VK Civil is not just in Byron Township. It's across in other states, too, from what we're seeing. And we've got our eyes on them. Somebody is running this playbook, and it's not these local hometown, allegedly, boys that are there. There's a much, much bigger thing in play here. And here it is. This is what Donna said. okay donna was right on this one again um the rising let's see here's why you may be seeing an increase to your water bill this year rising wholesale costs are being passed down to local communities why for a dozen municipalities in west michigan increased water course costs are being passed down by their wholesale supplier the city of wyoming wyoming's water supply system serves approximately two hundred thirty thousand people across Wyoming and other wholesale communities in Kent and Ottawa counties, according to its website. Those customers include Zeeland Park, Olive Blend in Holland, Georgetown, Jamestown, Gaines and Byron townships in the cities of Hudsonville, Granville, and a portion of Kentwood. And I'm going to make a projection or prediction of what's going to happen. Each municipality then adds its own cost for local infrastructure maintenance and administration to choose the final retail rate for residents. And they have overcharged the residents in all of these communities to pay for the infrastructure where they're going to get no benefit to build out more infrastructure. This is so messed up, you can't even believe it. Wyoming now has some massive long deferred capital infrastructure projects coming down the pipeline that are causing the wholesale supplier cost to raise. The city has identified six hundred six million in planned capital water system improvement over the next decade. Aaron Biz, the city director of public works, told Wyoming City Commission in recent session. Those improvements are being driven by increased water uses by residents across West Michigan because they wreck the wells. So there is going to be increase. So they're going to have to build some more because they're stealing our water and selling it back to us. And I'm going to tell you exactly what is going to happen with this. What they're going to do is they're going to say, who holds the debt on this? Hmm. It's going to be Wyoming. Well, guess what? Wyoming will probably merge with Grand Rapids more, more so than what it already is. And they're going to take over these local communities because they're saying, well, you know what? You guys have a lot of debt. You're going to owe us a lot of money. So guess what? We're going to annex Wyoming. these local communities that i just named and make them part of us through the infrastructure and guess what you're not going to have any say because it's collectivism and they're going to bring it right up to a central point and then that's where all the decisions are made going to be made not local and it's going to be controlled by the power grid and the water infrastructure after they've stolen our water This is too hard and complex, Donna. It's too hard. You're making it hard. My brain is hurting and we're just going to turn the other way because it's hard. Oh, no. Somebody told everybody the truth. So anyhow, I just want to tell you that this is where this is going. Collectivism, they've done it with DTE and consumers. They have a monopoly on it. And they're going to do it next with the water. It's about creating a monopoly on those resources that we have. And then now you are nothing but a slave to them. And you're going to work for them. In order to have water and to just survive. We're about ninety, we're about eighty five percent there right now. But when they get one hundred percent control over all of this infrastructure, y'all, we're screwed. And you know what's crazy about it? Michigan has a lot of water. We have water everywhere all over the state. People forget that. I got a creek on one side and a swamp and a pond on the other, just on my own road. And so if my well failed, there would be water I could walk down to and get water if I needed it. But that's not the case if you live in town. You can't hear all of the creeks and the streams are pretty well dry right now. And we have salmon beds in them. We had salmon in some of them. We had all kinds of fish here and they have literally drained this. So nobody better tell me that Eagle knows how to do their job. The only job they have is to destroy this state and they need to be designated as a terrorist organization Everyone prosecuted that's had one little finger of involvement in it, and it needs to be struck from any record from the books, defunded, and absolutely completely, completely removed. It's going to happen. It's going to happen. We're in the process right now. You know what? All we would really need is one good governor candidate. Guess what, guys? They're all placed. You had one shot at it. The state blew it. So the rest of them, they've all been placed. They're all part of it. You don't get to that place. And if you do get to that place, they're going to take you out. Oh, I wonder why we had so much pushback. You don't have to be too bright to get that one figured out. Well, don't worry, because we have more Republican registrations now, so everything is going to be good now. That's right. I had to tell you what I saw. We can go there, too. Yeah, what I saw in Mackinac, it's a joke, guys. It's a total joke. So anyhow, it's just another cult. Just forget about it. You're going to stay on the farm and believe this kind of crap. I can't help you anymore. But anyhow, what were you going to say? Where were you going? Okay, the Michigan thing. Okay, so last week, if anybody doesn't know, if anybody's listening not from Michigan, you may not know. In Allegan County, I think it was in Allegan. city maybe or elegant township maybe. Allegedly, this is the story. This is the story that we're told. So the FBI out of Detroit somehow finds out that a girl is posting some stuff online online somewhere. She's making some commentary about some plans that she's making for her birthday. Isn't that fun? She wants to take a van with explosives, basically fireworks and gas, and back it into the school cafeteria. She's going to have some kind of distracting explosion naturally as a result of that. Then she's going to take a gun and she's going to shoot the security officer that's stationed there. And then she's going to break the windows on the classrooms that she wants to get into. She's just going to randomly shoot everybody she possibly can. And she's going to pour gasoline on the carpets. And if people don't die of suffocation, well, then they'll just have to burn. And that's her idea. Of a birthday. Surprise I guess. So she. The FBI notified the local police. And they start looking into it. And they arrest this girl. And they put a stop to it. We don't know. Her name did come out. Doesn't matter. She stole her mother's gun. Got it out of a locked case. Somehow there was a chain wrapped around it. She managed to squeeze her hand in there. Just enough to get the gun. The magazine and the ammo out. So she had started to take an action for her plan. There's a lot of details we don't know, and we can't be sure that any of that is true, but that's the story. That's the story. So then I think it's two, maybe three days later, we have this man that did make a larger news story where a forty-year-old veteran, military veteran, Husband, father, backs his, no, did he back his truck? No, he didn't back it up. I think he just drove it directly into a building twice. Breaks into this church building, Latter-day Saints. He has, what does he have in his truck, Donna? He has explosives made of fireworks. He starts shooting people randomly. And then he starts a fire. I heard or read somewhere a hundred FBI agents descend on the scene. How do you get a hundred FBI agents in the state of Michigan? It's a question I have to ask. Within one day, you got a hundred people. Why do you need a hundred people? This is a local event. It's a stupid event. It might be a terrorist event. It might just be some guy that's lost his mind or is angry and maybe he hates the church. We don't know why he did it. But why do we need a hundred FBI agents on that one where they didn't go to the other one? But his plan is so like her plan. I don't know if he picked up her plan from the news media and said, that's a good way to go and then executed it. but for anybody not in Michigan, there's something you might need to recognize in the state of Michigan. And I know this is unlawful. So let's start there. There are gun laws that supposedly they limit the rights of people to carry concealed or openly. You're not supposed to carry in schools or churches with specific, um, what's the word I'm looking for? Um, circumstances that you can exemplify okay so if you uh if your church leadership approves of you carrying then you can carry concealed in a church service you can have a security service in some states they have to be licensed or whatever apparently in florida that's the case but in michigan there are circumstances where you can but it's rare and so most people think That you shouldn't. Or you can't. And as we talked about before. It used to be required in the old days. But now it's the opposite. That makes those two locations. Prime candidates. For terrorist events. Terrorists. Like this man. Because he was a terrorist. Whether you want to think of him as a domestic terrorist. We don't know his plot. We don't know his intention. We don't know why he did it. He was a terrorist on that day. People like this tend to be cowards on that day. They don't go to the military base and start shooting at the guards at the front gate because they know there are people there who are armed and ready to shoot them back. People in churches and schools, however, are innocent and vulnerable and they're not likely to shoot back at you until well after you've made a big impact. And so, Cowards will choose churches and schools. It doesn't always matter why. So whether this man, we're told, as of the news story that I saw last night, that he had a problem with that particular church. And they did also lose their president. He died old age. I guess he was ninety something, I think. within the week previous, so some people thought maybe it had something to do with it. Supposedly, he doesn't like the church, and that's his motivation. What's Trump post is the narrative to this. It's an attack on Christianity. Well, maybe it isn't, guys. Why are we being pushed into that narrative, even by President Trump? You have to ask yourself this, because I know he could be motivated to hit that church building because there's about one hundred and fifty people in that building. It's in a neighboring town. He knows there's a lot of people there who are probably not going to shoot back. And if he has whatever kind of demented idea he has, what kind of impact he wants to make on the day he's likely to die. Those people are going to let him do it to a degree, and he's going to be famous for it. And maybe that's an intention of his. Maybe it has nothing to do with the religion or the location, the people who are there specifically, or anything like that. This girl, why does she go to a school? She's familiar with the school. I'm assuming. Now, I could be wrong. Maybe she's not from that school. Maybe she's homeschooled. I don't know any of that. But I'm just assuming that as a young girl, she's familiar with the layout of the school. And maybe she has some people there that she doesn't like. So there's some familiarity that makes it a comfortable place for her to attack that particular location rather than another school down the road. But is she going to go into... Just any other random location in Michigan. There are a lot of people who carry concealed in Michigan, a lot of people, and a lot of them are more than willing to shoot back at people who make, you know, stupid decisions like this. So what are the narratives that are being pushed about it and why? What kind of actions are we supposed to take? Are we supposed to ask for more or less gun laws? And it could go both ways on that. Some people talk about red flag laws. Some people talk about whether people should be allowed to allowed it's kind of a silly word but yeah i don't like to carry guns in churches in conjunction with any government agency at all and yeah i will call them out with it it's like y'all don't allow free people to do anything you have no authority to do such things but i know i know what you're saying yeah and again this is not a new conversation it happens every time we have one of these shootings so why is that why is the it's an attack on christianity Why is that one of the primary narratives being pushed? Is it to create fear? Now, people are going to be afraid to go to church and meet together. Is it supposed to increase our faith and cause us to fear? To get our backs up. And go to church deliberately. Because we're just going to say. We don't care. If somebody is going to come after us in church. We're going to go anyway. I don't know why the push is. But I'm asking the question. And just because Trump pushes the question. Or pushes the narrative. Doesn't mean it's correct. Like I said. I don't know what this guy's actual intention is. And on the news yesterday. There was a. City council candidate who met him a few days before this is his story And he says, you know, it was really strange when the last thing he said was He said one of the last things he said was the lds is the antichrist And i'm like, yeah, you just met this guy And in your casual conversation He brings that up As the last thing he was going to say, oh, by the way, you know that church in the neighboring town? It's not even their town. It's the neighboring town. That church over there, they're the Antichrist, just so you know. Like, I just don't see that coming up in a conversation. Now, other people said he was known for describing them with words of hate. Okay, is that a narrative that we're being told so that we focus on that? Is that a storyline? Who is this candidate? I'd be asking him some questions because if he's making up that story, you got a real problem, Burton. If he's not making up the story, I want to know more details about that story because I want to know what the guy's intention was. What was his motivation to do that? I don't know. And other people are using it as a mental illness platform. I don't know if he was mentally ill. Now, you could assume that. Was he drugged up? Or was he an FBI operative that carried this out? You know, was he actually neutralized? There's another thing that we can, I mean, we really have to question it all because we don't know anything about this other than what the media is telling us. And I mean, I know that's way out there for some people. But if you weren't there, you have no idea what actually happened. And I think that there's so much programming going on that it's distracting. It gets us tied up in knots. We stop being productive and doing anything because now we're obsessing about this, which, yeah, I absolutely believe that people were hurt there. There's no reason for me not to believe that, right? There's been a lot of accounts out there and such and firsthand accounts by people. But we don't know so much about it that we're living our lives almost vicariously through other people's pain. And that's stopping us from being productive. That's the problem I see with this. Let's go back to what happened with my horse yesterday. All right. I'm online. I get a picture sent to me that we got a real problem. I look at the picture. It looks like its tendon is blown. I'm like, I got to get over there and I've got to get my eyes on this before I can make any decisions on what to do if it's a problem or if it's not a problem. That is why I don't get bent out of shape about things too quickly because unless I can put my hand on it, I can see it. I can't tell you what I'm looking at. And now we've got so many of us that in the United States, that as soon as somebody says something, their emotions are completely captive and they are disabled. They go to make decisions, to make a plan, to figure out what's going on. And it's like they're believing the narrative that happened with the Charlie Kirk shooting. And I sat here and I watched everybody emoting over it, knowing, well, OK, got to be online here. You know, this is what I was asked to be online because people were hurting. I get it. And so I thought, well, how am I going to deal with this right now? as a non-emotional person in a crisis. I literally compartmentalize because my first reaction is to ask questions. It's not going to be like, oh my gosh, this is the worst thing in the whole world that's ever happened to anybody, right? I'll go to, ah, okay, we've got some questions to answer. This is probably going to take a while as we watch it. But what I saw as valuable is letting people talk out their emotions. And that's where I did. You know how hard that was for me to do that show? I'm going to tell you that people will say that was one of my best shows I've ever done. But that was a very difficult show for me to just sit there and listen and not go. We've got no information on this. So why is everybody so sad at this point? Because a knee jerk reaction. It's a knee jerk reaction. Now everybody's disabled to do anything going forward because they're tied up in the narrative. I wanted to show you a video that came up and I think it wouldn't be a bad idea to talk about this video and just to listen to it because this is a point that I think it's a pretty good firsthand account, which I think could be and should be taken into consideration. Okay? So let me see if I can get the sound up here enough that we can hear. I think it's going to be a little quiet. But if not, it's on my Telegram channel. You can go and listen to it. But I thought it was valuable to post. Oh, you're starting to break up again. Yeah, because they don't want anybody to hear this. Can you hear it? Lightly. Learning about the death of President Nelson at a hundred and one. And then to read this news, it's just been, I can't even fathom it. And I wanted to share some of the early insights that I'm getting from friends that have people that were He said, this is my sister-in-law's stake, and here's what she just sent. It says, a man crashed his car into the chapel, covered the building with gasoline, and then went around sacrament meeting with a gun, asking people if they believed in Jesus or Joseph Smith. If they didn't answer fast enough, he shot them. Then he lit the building on fire. It roared into an inferno and collapsed while there were still people inside. And then this came from her brother's friend who was there. He says, okay, here's what happened. The bishopric member was bearing his testimony. There was a large boom. The choir seats caved in. Panic ensued. Then they hear shots. More panic. His wife and he were able to run out of the west foyer. Loud shots were there. That's where the gunman was coming in. We turned around, ran out of the back of the church. We have woods back there. More shots. They go deeper to the woods, walking through a stream. His wife was laying in tall grass. opposite the side of clearing an extreme valley. Lots of sirens. The police gathered us in a pavilion. We sat by families. He and his wife were there together. Some people are missing. Some members have been shot. This member was shot in the stomach. Still missing a couple. We're now in our Jehovah's Witness neighbor church park. Building is gone. We're now walking to buses so we can be driven somewhere. They will then take statements from everyone. I mean, It's heavy, you guys. Oh, dark time. But I wanted to share this comment that also came in on Twitter. I think it came from James Owen. He said, this attack on the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is not random. It is the darkness of this land lashing out because millions are becoming sensitive to the Holy Spirit. When the spirit moves, the enemy rages. When truth rises, lies strike back. My prayers are with them. I believe that that's true. There's a lot of good happening in the world right now. And it's hard to see it when you see such devastation. But it's there. And that's why evil is so present too. Let's pray hard. Let's keep being brave. Let's stand for truth, for righteousness, for good. Let's do as the Savior has asked and to love others. Let's mourn with those that mourn. Let's comfort those that stand in need of comfort. Anyways, I'll give you I thought that was a very precious, you know, this is a very precious recount. And just so everybody knows, you know, the fact that somebody does have those emotions and such, it's not a bad thing. It shows that somebody actually has a heart and cares and feels these things when they see things that are wrong. It's not, do you see what I'm saying? But when we work our way through that and say, I'm going to take a pause before I'm going to go into an emotional state and get a hold of my emotions. And honestly, that's the strength of people who have been through many crises in their lives. Is that you go into almost like a compartmentalized state of mind and deal with the problems at hand. It's not that you're cold. It's not that you don't care. It's that you realize that there's much more to everything than what we see. And sometimes the only way to deal with it is to stop and be the calm in the storm. And we have to remember that going forward, because I personally think things are going to get a little bit crazier here. I really do. And with that said, we need to be the calm in that storm. And that's going to become increasingly important. So anyhow, I'm glad we got to talk about this a little bit because I've got a lot of questions on the whole thing. There's too many coincidences for it not to be more than what they're saying. The amount of FBI agents that showed up there is shocking. If it's, if that number is true, like I said, I just, you know, read that somewhere. So it sounds a little bit like the J six thing where all of a sudden they ended up having like two hundred and seventy six FB. How in the hell did they get a hundred FBI agents there that quickly? Unless unless we're like infested with them, you know, you know, and that could be maybe that's why maybe that's why that number was revealed. Because I've noticed that somebody, it was Trump or somebody said something about already having agents in Memphis, was it? And I picked up on that right away because I'm like, he's just telling us or whoever it was that they were already a bunch of feds on the ground in that city working before he starts talking about sending the National Guard there. So I wouldn't be surprised at all if we have a lot more federal agents, whether it's ICE or FBI or whatever agency in our state ready and already working on things that are going to be announced in the future. It wouldn't surprise me at all. Well, they have just announced that there's a hundred thousand federal employees that were going to be let go today. Dear God, let it be. I know Eagle's Michigan DNR thing, but dear God, let Eagle be on the top of the list. Do you think they're going to shut down the government? We can only hope. I've been praying for this for years. And you know what? This goes back. Morning, Mike. Morning. This goes back to I got to tell you, this is another faith thing. OK, I have a very strong faith in God that no matter what happens, he allows it. Right. But you've got things like, you know, Daniel in the lion's den. You've got the guys walking in the fiery furnace and that sort of thing. God can make a way, right? But when I look at the nonsense going on right now, if the government shuts down, that is liberation day. Make no mistake about it. Because guess what? They need us. We've never needed them. They keep us impoverished. They steal our property. They steal all of our rights. They've stolen the earth from all of us for just a select few. And when you go to something like the Republican Convention of Mackinac, you can see how few people are making all the decisions for the state. It's all coordinated. And I'm going to tell you this. They're making the decisions for you and I, necking down our choices to the ones they have deemed worthy. And they are not working for us by any stretch of the imagination. So if they shut the government down, I'm going to be absolutely doing the happy dance. You're going to be able to see the Brandenburg happy dance from here probably to who knows. I'm going to say, you know, outer space somewhere. Shut down without pay or benefits. What's that? Shut down without pay or benefits. Absolutely. They're done. They've already stolen enough from us. And now it's time to prosecute for treason, sedition, and all the other crimes that they've committed. Because if anybody in the government right now is taking a paycheck, there might be some useful idiots that are in there that we're trying to fix things from within. But I'm going to say the majority of them participated in the infiltration of as well as the subversion and the theft, the coup of the United States of America. Absolutely. I have a problem that breaking the law is not an excuse. No, I know. My question was, do you think it's going to happen like today? Because every few months, we go through this. Everybody gets excited about the prospect. And what can Trump do when the government is shut down? We'll make great steps. And then, oh, they figure out a way around it. And it just is this up and down roller coaster. So, again, I'm not getting all excited about it until I see it happen. I'm just like, yeah, whatever. They're just, show me what you're going to show me. And we'll move on. Well, Curtis just brought up the Eagle estate, not federal. And like I said, I think it's, you know, before it's a state or it's a part of the DNR break broke off the DNR, which is a criminal organization and a terrorist organization in my my book. However, I just with all of these firings, I'm just waiting for this to trickle down. And I got to believe that it is going to trickle down to the state level. You know, too bad we don't have any honest governor candidates out there that, you know, would actually go in there and do the job that needs to be done. Shame, isn't it? But I digress. Okay, you know what I'm going to do? I'm going to take a break and I'm going to go get some coffee. And for a minute here, because I need some more coffee. I have a... ran myself out of caffeine here and um and but i appreciate you being on this morning karen do you want to do you want to stay on and go backstage or what do you want to do I think I'm going to, I'll listen. Um, Mr. Riveter is going to be setting up his hunting camp later. And he invited me to have a breakfast when he's done working this morning. So I don't know exactly when he's coming home again, but we will, I'll be listening. I got to tell you everybody, just so you know, we're all friends. And so like Karen is one of the greatest friends a person could ever have. And I just appreciate you when John said he needed to, uh, to take off this morning. I just appreciate you always coming in and, and give me, give me a little help here when things, when things have to change. And, and I appreciate your wisdom and your posts. And if you, if you're not watching Karen, watch her on Telegram, join her, join her feed. She's got an amazing feed. She stays up on things like crazy, makes a lot of good comments about things and, and evaluation. She dissects the situation and she doesn't, she's not just, you know, Following what said, she actually questions the narrative and I always appreciate that about her. So thank you so much. Well, we're going to go to a quick fifty seven second break. I might not be back immediately. Maybe I'll start my coffee after we start talking and let you talk, Mike. And then but fifty seven seconds. We'll be right back. Good morning and welcome to Brandenburg News Network. I am Donna Brandenburg. It's the thirtieth day of September and I'm here with Mike Bamus. How you doing, Mike? Good morning. How you doing? I'm doing great. Well, I got to tell you this. We went we all went to John's this weekend because they were celebrating their new marriage. And it was the first time that Mike and I had ever met in person. And that was a real pleasure. I was really, really excited to meet everybody there. And I I had made plans months before I found out that John and Susie got married and didn't tell me for two months and such, which was kind of like, you got to be kidding me. That's lifetime of harassment for me. So anyhow, I had to get back to the side of the state because I'd made plans with some people months ago. And but it was nice that I was able to meet. to be there and meet everybody that was there and say hi to old friends and meet new friends in person. So that was great. It's always good to meet people. Sometimes you talk to people for a long time. It's sometimes good to get an actual meeting person, get to interact with them, put a face to the name, so to speak. And it was great meeting you. And we meet here on this podcast. and then to meet in person and interact their way, you know, that just amplifies the, the relationship. So, yeah, it was, it was just really, it was really nice. And, and, and John had a very nice, uh, a nice event there for their marriage. I mean, he is such a nice person. And Susie is just a doll. I'm so happy for them and truly, you know, blessings and for many, many happy years together. And, uh, It was a wonderful time getting together and seeing all the people that are in the group that meets out there as well as some of his family members and such. So it was a very nice gathering. Yeah, it was. Real nice. Gorgeous day for it, and everything was perfect. Yeah. Do you hear this? I've got a mower outside my house right now that's like, can you hear that? Not really. Okay, good. Because it's like totally obnoxious on this end. So, at any rate. So, anyhow. So, what are we going to talk about today, Mike? Well, yeah, I was listening to you guys earlier. And what everybody has to remember is that the drive-by media is reactionary. And they like to sensationalize things. And they have a bad habit of reporting whatever comes in and pops into their mind rather than reporting anything. what actually is in the truth. So, you know, when you turn on, you know, the fake media, the drive-by media, you got to put it in context. I mean, it's a show. They're trying to get ratings. And that's why when something happens, oh, breaking news, you know, and we got to have this in-depth analysis. They don't know squat. They don't know squat. And to sit there with all these reporters and such, and they're like, oh, and we're going to get this angle on this. And it's like, and we're going to interview the neighbor, and we're going to get a behind-the-scene. You've got squat. You have absolutely nothing. Okay? What actually happens in the real world, you don't get to see. Okay? My grandfather worked for the Detroit News. And he... without going too much into the weeds on this, he would actually expound about the fact that what they were actually reporting was nowhere near the truth. And it would upset him. He was a photographer for Detroit News. And what actually was really reported was nowhere near what really happened or the truth of the matter. It was all an illusion. It was a narrative. It was propaganda for them to mold the general public into believing what they wanted them to believe, okay? And so, ninety percent of what is actually going through the mouths of these reporters um you know take it with a grain of salt i mean they really don't know i mean do they really know the thoughts of what the guy was doing or what his intentions are no they don't squat if the police are still conducting investigation how does the reporter know more than the investigators they don't they're surmising they're guessing and they're getting everybody all riled up and distracted And I say distracted with a purpose because these kind of events, that's why they like to sensationalize it so that you're distracted with this over here. Let's look over here in the right hand so you're not paying attention to what the left hand is doing. What else is going on around the world? What else is happening in your backyard that they're distracting you with on the drive-by media side? Take a step back, put it into context, and say, okay, there was an incident. It was horrific, yes. And wait for the actual truth and facts to come out. Don't sit there watching all day long updates on what was going on. They don't know squat, and they're not going to release that information until they conclude their investigations. Yep. Go bake a batch of cookies and bring them to your neighbor. You know, go do something productive and not not being obsessed on every single word that's coming out on it because it could take months. But I can tell you right now, just watching with the Charlie Kirk thing, they broke the set down within a couple of hours. This is a crime scene. There's no possible way that they would have just like thrown him in the back of an SUV with a neck injury. I was talking to a friend of mine yesterday and he said there's no way he would have been hit by the caliber that they said that he was without basically taking half his head off. And he's like, I don't he goes, I shoot that type of around. He said there's no possible way. and i i thought it was really really pretty pretty telling how quickly people jumped to the to the uh uh the optics on this instead of i have just i have photos i have photos of what a thirty at six will do to a head i could post them on your show if it wasn't you know it's graphic Do it. Let's do it because people need to see the difference because this is, this is, is it, are they real shots or are they made up? No, these are real. Okay. Well, um, I would have to, I have to download it all and all that kind of stuff. So I, I'll set it up for another time. Yeah. I'll get you those photos and I'm going to tell you right now it's graphic. If you want to be an investigator, guys, though, you've got to be willing to do the work. And if you're going to investigate, that means you've got to look at all angles and you've got to look at everything. Right. And otherwise, it's just you're listening to other people's assumptions. And for that to be there, that's a crime scene. That entire area was a crime scene. I mean, the entire courtyard was a crime scene. The rooftops were a crime scene. They should have cordoned off that all the way around the outside perimeter of that building. And when they had photos of the guy running, you know, jumping off the roof and running down the street, that's part of the crime scene, too. And for them to not cordon that off, for them to do what they did, you got to kind of wonder what the hell's going on. They would have had to take measurements. They would have taken samples from everything. They would have done so much more than what we saw there that it's so illogical to me that I'm just kind of like, yeah, I'm kind of over this. And now watching how much money is being raised and the connections with Erica, her family connections, you're going to have to start questioning some of those things, no matter how many tears come forward. or the poses that they've taken with their kids with the backs of the camera. People say, oh, they were protecting the identity of the kids. Most of that was AI, and we've talked about this before, because AI can't render the kids' faces, so they're going to face them away. Let me tell you something about photos. I remember as a kid being in the dark room with my grandfather as he was developing photos for the news. And he did a lot of family photos and such. And I watched even back in the sixties, he was able to take a photo and manipulate it in the dark room. Even back then, they didn't have the technology we have today, but he can manipulate a photo even back then. So now you've got all this technology. Hello, I can buy a cell phone where I push a button and get rid of the guy in the background. So, you know, you got to be careful what you're looking at. Is it actually real? So, you know, I. These are things that people have to understand, and they don't. They are too caught up in the sensationalism of the incident, the reactionary of it, and they've got to stop doing that. I completely agree with you on that. I agree on that. This brings me to another question in regards to what you guys were talking about earlier. Talk about gun-free zones. Okay. Now, I'm a believer of simplicity. I believe that to understand a problem, you simplify the problem and the answer shall reveal itself. And you go back to basics. Basics is the Constitution itself. So my question is, do gun-free zones exist in the United States of America? No, because the cops carry them. So what I'm saying is you go to you call a school of a gun free zone. You call a church a gun free zone. Wait a minute. Does the Constitution cease to exist or does the Constitution suspended in that property in that property plot? no it doesn't the constitution's never suspended i know exactly where you're going with this it's like it's like they they have literally just ignored it and then they say oh it's an old document this is obsolete well hey you know what careful what for what you ask i've told this to some people one time and they were really about oh the constitution's old it needs to be you know shredded and we need to update it and yada yada yeah and i said yeah i'll tell you what I want everyone who believes that the Constitution is old, it's outdated, needs to be shredded, I want them all in one room, and I want them all on one side of the table. And I'll stay on the other side of the table. And what we're going to do is we're going to put a timer on the table. And we're going to set the timer. And when the timer dings, I want you to shred that Constitution so the minute you shred it, it no longer exists. It's no longer enforceable. It is dust. There is no Constitution. There is no founding documents. Everything is done, void, gone, so that you can start over with a brand new one. And as soon as that buzzer goes off and they shred the Constitution, guess what I'm going to do? I'm going to pull out a gun. and we're going to take care of business. You wanna know why? Because the Constitution, if it's shredded, no longer exists. I'm not committing any crime. Am I? Because all the laws cease to exist, don't they? So you wanna shred the Constitution? Go ahead, shred it. Because that means there are no laws. You cease to exist as a public functionary. All levels of government cease to exist. Everything ceases to exist. And all we have is anarchy. So you want to get rid of the Constitution? You want to shred it? Go ahead. You just gave me and everyone else carte blanche to remove you from the problem, and then we can reinstitute the Constitution back the way it was. I'm pretty sure there's a bunch of good old boys out there that are sick of being attacked constantly by these – People who produce nothing in an office, the parasite class, and they're getting sick of this. And I'm not advocating, none of us are advocating any violence of any type and such, but I'm going to tell you what, I think they get pushed far enough and it's going to be kind of one of those moments of clarity to the snowflake and soy boy community when all the protections that they really want to do whatever they want are gone. Mm-hmm. How was this country founded? Was it founded on a handshake over a cup of tea? I don't think so. Freedom is not free, okay? Freedom has never been free. Bloodshed earns you the right to be free. I know that people don't wanna hear that. It's the elephant in the room that nobody wants to talk about. But you wanna know something, folks? How many people have to die before you wake up and say, you know what? We need to put a stop to this, okay? Because they are killing people. They are killing people, yes. They don't give a crap about, I'm trying to keep my language decent here. I know what you're going to say. You're going to say a rat's ass. They don't care about your existence. You are a commodity to them. OK, you're a commodity. And whether you exist or not, they don't care. They'll get someone to replace you like an illegal. OK, now you heard about the illegal that did somebody in over and was in New York and the judge let him go, didn't charge him and all that. You know what I would do? How about if we have a bunch of guys sitting in the back of that courtroom, and as soon as the judge says, yeah, we're going to dismiss all charges, he's an illegal, yeah, we're going to let him go. Okay. So as he goes to walk out of that courtroom, judge, are you sure that's your decision? Yep. Okay. And you pummel the shit out of him. Thanks, Judge. You just set a precedent because you're not going to charge him with these crimes. You can't charge us with those crimes. So let's take that illegal, beat the shit out of him, put him on a boat and send him back to wherever the hell it was he came from. Because guess what, Judge? You can't prosecute us. You can't convict us because you didn't do it to him. You can't do it to us. What's good for the goose is good for the gander. Yeah, unfortunately, though, we've got a two-tier system, and they know what they're doing. They're literally part of the destruction of the United States, the injustice system that we have, and they want the chaos. I believe that most of them were placed. Be careful for what you ask, for thou shall receive, and the chaos is coming. I'm going to read you a letter that just went out. There were three letters that just went out that went out yesterday. And I'm going to just read one of them. They're all basically the same premise. But this went to our good old Dana Nestle, Department of Attorney General. And this was dated yesterday. It's regarding the weaponization of government against the people of Michigan. Madam AG, I am Ann Michael, private citizen, national. Bring to your attention a matter of national security that is currently in motion within your jurisdiction. I, Michael, as well as others have documentation that confirms by their own admission that the bar attorneys, the bar association as a whole, judges of Livingston County Court System, the Livingston County Board of Commissioners, the Genoa Charter Township Administration, the Livingston County Sheriff's Department, the Green Oak Charter Police Department, working in conjunction with the FBI, is engaged in extortion, racketeering, money laundering, and domestic terrorism as defined by Congress. I, Michael, have included verifiable evidence of these acts and in the admission by and all of the entities stated above that these acts have been and are currently being committed and will continue unless lawful action is taken to stop this from continuing to threaten the public safety. I, Michael, did talk with State Representative Jason Wolford of the Fiftieth District, whom is currently on the Oversight Committee of the Weaponization of State Government, and supplied documentation with supporting exculpatory evidence that supports all of the allegations stated above. I, Michael, require the full cooperation of the Attorney General Office in this matter to investigate the allegations and arrest those whom have violated their oath of office by and through their acts of usurpation including the Bar Association for any public functionary who commits said acts, lacks any immunity and can be removed from office. Norton v. Shelby County, eighteen eighty six. I, Michael, did attach documentation that is undisputed and which will be used in a court of competent jurisdiction. If you have any questions or need additional information and documentation, please contact me in this matter. My email. Thank you for the immediate attention. This letter and a similar one went to Jason Wolford of the fiftieth District of Michigan, also to the Criminal Justice Bureau under the AG's office here in Michigan. And I'm asking them, based on the information that I have attained, that they start not only their investigation, but start moving forward with arresting these individuals for the crimes that they have committed against the American people and here in Michigan. So let's see what happens there. If they fail to do so, they are complicit in this conspiracy to commit domestic terrorism upon the people. They are to guarantee at all times a Republican form of government, Article IV, Section IV. No exceptions. And that is what they have failed to do. So are they going to come after me? Yeah, they could. Am I going to be assassinated for doing this? They could try. But understand any attempts like that just verifies and solidifies the fact that this is who and what they really are. So understand that, people, that when you stand up against them, they're going to put a target on your head. We have people that have been targeted as sovereign citizens, according to the FBI report. that their homes and they individually have been named in a list as sovereign citizens under that act. So we know it exists, we have the evidence. House Bill, nine, three out of Montana, the legislators there within that legislative bill, even recognize and state that the Bar Association is a threat to the constitutional government. So we have politicians out there who do recognize this and have admitted so, and it's in writing. The public law of May third, nineteen forty does not show us as extremists or terrorists that we are to be celebrated as self-governing under the Republic. So what the FBI has done, what the Bar Association is doing in conjunction with the law enforcement departments, is committing an act of domestic terrorism. The Livingston County Board of Commissioners, and I'm using them only because I have, this is where my evidence sits right now. And I'm not gonna say that the others are not doing the same thing. They probably are. And matter of fact, I'm gonna say they are doing it. But your tax dollars are funding this domestic terrorism. When you go into a courtroom and the judge, I mean, you can YouTube this. YouTube how many times you see a judge go, oh, you're one of those sovereign citizens. Okay? There's all kinds of videos like that. Now, whether or not those people were able to stand on their square in that courtroom and stand their ground, no, a lot of them don't. They usually pick the ones that can't do, you know, are the worst. And the point of the matter is, is that this is how the judges, i.e. bar attorneys, are viewing us. Why does the bar get to dictate this? Well, let's do a little investigation, shall we? The Bar Association at the federal level is not a government agency. However, the Bar Association at the state level is created and controlled by the state Supreme Court. The Bar Association is a five oh one corporation. Where was the delegated authority for the Supreme court of the state of Michigan to create a corporation, whether it be a five Oh one or any other, or they acquire that delegation of authority to do so. They don't. They don't. That is not what their job is. The Supreme court state and federal are not to interpret the constitution. They're there to apply the constitution to the whatever situations before them. But what do you hear? Oh, we interpret this, we interpret that. That's not their job to interpret. Their job is to apply it. They're not doing it. So what have they done? They've ratified a situation where they get to change the Constitution through their decision making based on their political views. No, sorry, you've usurped your authority. What do we know about usurpation? They lose their immunity. Oh, we have absolute immunity. No, you don't. Where did that come from? Who granted that to you? We the people sure as hell didn't. If you get immunity, now let's think about this a minute. How much, does anybody remember where, I don't know, the Democrats were talking about how the President of the United States doesn't have immunity? Well, if the President of the United States doesn't have immunity, where in the hell did the judges get it from? Right. Hello? Hello? This is what's the problem here. It's selective. The Bar Association is trying to manipulate and control the entire narrative. Well, it's like all the statutory laws and such. Those are being created from the bench, and it does lend itself to absolutely selective harassment of people. They don't enforce it across the board. It's whoever they want to get rid of or pick on and such. I'm going to go grab some coffee. I'll be able to hear you keep talking. Okay. So what do we have to do? We have to defund them. We defund the courts and then take down the Bar Association. The Bar Association should not exist in the capacity it does right now. You want to hire an attorney? Great. You want legal advice? Fantastic. They can be advisory. That's all they're supposed to be is advisory. But unfortunately, what they've done is manipulated this under Corpus Juris Condum, Volume Seven, Section Four. Their first obligation is to the court, not the client. Doesn't matter how much you pay him. Doesn't matter how well you know him. Could be your brother. His first obligation is to the court, not you. And doesn't matter how much you pay him. So they've manipulated the entire situation to their benefit. And a court case is an account number. and they're accessing funds from you to create the bonds. Now, how do we know this to be true? Well, you go into a courtroom. You wanna have some fun in a courtroom? Ask the judge if it isn't not his responsibility to the beneficiary of the account. Watch what he does. He'll panic. So I did that to Judge Bain one time. He got pissed, slammed the thing down, and he changed the court. from court of statutory to court of equity. So it can be done. We know this to be true. We've done it. So what we have to do here is all these codes and statutes that they try and impose these fines and fees upon, payment coffee beans, payment lima beans. You have the right to do so. Eugene Glaser allows you to do that. It's a Michigan case. We've had people do it not only here in Michigan, we've had it done in Minnesota, and we've had it done in Florida. They're citing the same case. So it can be done. And this is how we start defunding them. Because you're asking me to do what, Judge? What specie of payment do you want? Well, they can't specify. They're not allowed to. So is it not my interpretation then as to what it is you're asking for? So sometimes they put a little bill together and it has the letter S with a line through it. What is that? Well, that's pesos. Pay them in pesos. You don't have to pay them in coffee beans. You can pay them in pesos. That's what they're showing. That's what they're indicating. That's what they're asking for. So pay them in pesos. If they refuse the payment, if they refuse a tender of an obligation under state law and under federal law, That obligation has been met in full. So case closed. We're done. So if we start defunding them, now what are they going to do? Maybe now, once we defund them, we can finish taking them down. Now we're going to be filing a federal lawsuit against the attorneys that represent Livingston County and Genoa Township. And they're being charged with domestic terrorism. And once I get done with them, then I'm moving on to the next. So this isn't going to go idly by. This is going to manifest itself. This is going to get nasty. Things are going to get real nasty. And, I mean, it really needs to at this point in time. They need to be removed because they're breaking the law. Yes. Yes. And I've said this for a long time. We don't negotiate with terrorists. They have literally put themselves into the position, as you said, of being terrorists to this country and to we the people. And we should be putting up with any of this. No, what they're doing is a racketeering. They talked about the mafia being bad. These people are worse. Okay? Yeah. So, yeah, we got to take them down. We're going to put a stop to them one way or another. And I again, I put the challenge out there. I don't know why nobody takes me up on my challenge. I challenged the Bar Association. I mean, they were investigating me for practicing law without a license. Hmm. So I sent them a notice back and I said, well, you put this inquiry to me wanting to know, you know, my relationship with certain people and and how I receive payment, all that. Well, I'm a little confused. Because if the only person who can give legal advice is a licensed attorney by their standards, okay, fine. Does that mean that every mother and father who give legal advice to their son or daughter is practicing law without a license? And they would not answer that. I wonder why? How come? And what, what, an executive department or agency of the state of Michigan actually issues a license to practice law? Well, they wouldn't answer that one either. You wanna know why? Because it doesn't exist. Well, that's a real problem now, isn't it? You wanna know why? If no department or agency actually issues a license to practice law And under Article VI, Section XIX of the Michigan Constitution, a license to practice law is a requirement to qualify to sit on the bench as a judge. Then do we have judges? How are any of them qualified? None are. You go into court for a parking ticket. Hey, judge, I need a copy of your certified license to practice law. I need to see it. Not a bar card. Bar cards only like a union, you know, it's a union card. It's a Costco. It's a country club card. Yes. License. It has to say license. The bar card doesn't say license on it. So where's the license? Show it to me. I want a certified copy. They can't. Well, then you're not a judge. You're an administrator. And what they did was under the APA, the Administrative Procedures Act, revised in nineteen sixty nine, was all these departments and agencies create and proclimate rules and regulations. And now we have administrative courts enforcing rules and regulations of these corporations. Corporations, why? Because they're all charters. Charter township, this charter charter. Everything's a corporation. The schools are corporations. The police are corporations. The courts are a corporation. Everything's a corporation. The state of Michigan is a corporation. So everything is administrative rules. Absent a contract, where's the obligation? Where am I obligated to follow your rules and regulations without a contract? Where's my consent to these rules and regulations? Show it to me. I want to see the wedding signature. Doesn't exist. Now, every time you get a driver's license, guess what? When you sign, that's a contract. You are signing a contract with the state. Stop doing it. Stop contracting with the crooks. They're tricking you into these contracts. You're giving up your rights unknowingly because they don't divulge it. They're not transparent with what they're doing to you. These new ID cards that they're coming out with has all your information on it. They're going to track you no different than putting a chip in your arm. Why are you allowing this to happen? They're tracking us through this. They're tracking us through everything. It doesn't matter what you do. We are in a completely transparent, and when I say transparent, it's transparent of what we do, what we say, where we are, who we associate with, all of that. They're literally tracking all of us. They're predators. Now, right now you heard about Vietnam where the banks shut down like eighty six million bank accounts because the people either failed or refused to give their biometrics to the bank. So the bank says, without your biometrics, you don't get to do banking. If that's implemented here in the United States, you know who's in charge of that? Who's in charge of overseeing the biometrics usage? Probably Palantir. The FBI, Homeland Security, Star, what was the new agency they put out there? Star. Space Force. Space Force, sorry. Space Force and the President of the United States. So we are encouraging everyone, everybody knows I'm an advocate for trust, create a biometric trust, get it submitted to your bank, make sure you have a fee schedule attached to it. and send them a certificate of trust for your biometric trust and that they are not to enter you by assumption or presumption into any contracts for banking. And that there is a penalty assessed to that if they try and do so. And that if they use your biometrics in any way, shape or form without consent, it's a violation of the trust itself. And the trust can bring a claim against them, against the bank. That's good to know. And what's really disturbing is I'm going to go back to Palantir and all of these oversight technocratic mechanisms to capture information on us. And I'm sorry, but J.D. Vance worked with Peter Thiel. He was working with this type of thing. I mean, it's a little disturbing. They are not supposed to be spying on us. And they are. Correct. And they're not even denying it. They're admitting it. So we need to shut them down for stealing your private property. Remember, you have the right of privacy here. You have the right of privacy. Illegal search and seizures is unconstitutional. Seizing your biometrics without your consent is a violation of that Fourth Amendment. So now you have a federal claim against every department, every agency. You also have a federal claim against every man and woman working within these departments and agencies, against every company that's doing it. All these fiber optic companies and all that that are doing that and stealing your information, you have a federal claim against them as well, against the men and women instituting it. because they were contracted by the federal government. So as a subcontractor, the federal government is, and they are all linked together. Yeah, they use the third party surveillance all the time. We had a fiber optic line going in next to our house. By reading the contract, they said in the contract, which we didn't sign up for, because there's no way, that they own anything you transmitted across those lines. That's why it's so important to read the contract. And so guess what? They're going to collect everything you put across that line, and they're going to turn it over to the agencies that are going to pay for it. Well, we need to put a stop to that. That's where this biometric trust comes into play. And you let them all know, hey, I got a trust. It exists. Here it is. These are the terms, these are the conditions, and this is what happens when you violate it. And the trust can bring them into court, federal court, and bring a claim against them for damages and harm so that's that's what's going to come next it's got to because otherwise they're going to steal everything from you and they're going to control and manipulate you every way they can so well and like we were talking about the narrative and them them taking the narrative and keeping people into a mental prison so they're not getting active to do the things that need to be done. I really have come to the conclusion that the only way to address this, it's going to be through the lawful methods. Well, again, back to the elephant. Let's circle all the way back to that elephant in the room again. If we cannot get remedy, we're not going to get remedy in the state courts. We already know that. That's a given. Oh, that's real clear. If we don't get remedy in the federal courts, then what? We're back to that elephant in the room again. So if we are prohibited from getting remedy in the federal courts, if they will refuse even at the federal level to follow the Constitution, what are we left with? You make your own decision on that. So that's the reality of it. You either become subservient to them and just say, you know what? That's the way it is. We're all slaves. Deal with it. Or as history continually repeats itself, when you suppress a people long enough, they will rise. So I think it's a really good warning, as well as the fact that I know there's a lot of people talking about that right now. And we talk about everything here, whether people like it or not, because that's the pulse of the people. And I know a lot of people who are really sick of their crap right now, like a whole lot of people. Oh, yeah. I hear it every day, every single day. And from people you wouldn't expect it from. OK, people you never think would would be would say those kind of things or even be thinking that those terms. Oh, yeah, they are. They are. So, yeah, this is this is where we are. A powder keg waiting to explode. We really are. And they don't want to back down. They're not backing down. They're getting, they're like a dog that bites unless, unless we chase them down a little bit and, and show them, you know, that they're not going to do this. A dog that bites will continue to get more emboldened and emboldened and emboldened, and they'll do more attacks. That's exactly what we, what I see happening in our government anyway. Yeah. They're arrogant too. These people are so arrogant. You go into the township here, Byron township. These are some arrogant, arrogant people. They're only arrogant for one reason. They think that the bar attorney that's representing them has got their back. Eliminate the bar. Eliminate those bar attorneys. Now let's see how much of a bite they got. Yeah, because they can't articulate anything. When you watch them talk, they'll get asked a question and they'll go, well, what do you say? So they're literally letting the bar attorney run the entire township. Bar attorney will sit there Jurassic going, you know, he's a kisser and he's got all the great words to say and he talks like this. And you're like, does anybody actually talk like that in life? Well, this dude does. You know, it's all a show. Yeah. Bar attorneys are not as smart as you think they are. They go to law school and they learn how to do procedure. They don't learn the law. So that's why I love having fun with them. I start splitting off court cases and codes and statutes and all that. And they just give me the deer in the head look like. And I'll hold on a second. I got to look that up. Yeah, go look it up. We'll see what it says. They run the entire cases through AI, too. I can see that by what I've done here in the state. It's all AI. And I go, we'll go through it and look at the different cases. Go. How is this even pertinent? And a lot of it's just threat, duress, and coercion. That's what they want. They want you to back down because they're going to continue to layer more and more stuff on. I mean, look at what they did to President Trump. You can see it's just threat and bullying and coercion. The court is a bullying extortion organization of entities. If you let it. If you let it. When you get into the trust, when you start living through your trust, it all changes. Courts are administrative, but they have to follow trust law. That's premier. Let me ask you a question about this a minute, though, because if you're putting your stuff in trust, can they change the law to take the trust away? Because I'm going to say this because we're going to go back to the trust attorney that was involved in what Carla Wagner's doing with Ask My Tax. And how you remember, because he was, they were changing the tax code so they could put anybody in charge of your estate. And this is what I keep telling people. They'll be talking about asking my tax. And I believe Carla was disqualified for being governor. Not sure why. But at any rate, that's what I heard when I was up in Mackinac. But they're rewriting the tax code. And just so anybody knows, any of these proposals they put out there? No. When have they ever worked? None of them have, because you can't work by adding more layers of crap. You've got to get rid of the layers and go back to the original tension, the original intent of the Constitution. Right. Yep. And the Michigan Trust Code, the way it's written now. If they get rid of Article One, Section Ten of the Mission Constitution, it's going to be free range for them to try and do whatever they want, to steal the assets, to remove your trustees, to control your beneficiaries, everything. So the way we've designed the trust, we just had a meeting last night about this, and I read Section Seven of my trust is about jurisdiction. And I don't care what judge, I don't care what court, they will not be able to pierce the veil of the trust because they have to meet the guidelines set forth within the jurisdiction of the trust. And they cannot do anything that will pierce that veil because they can't meet the standards required. They have to follow certain things. They have to follow the terms of the trust, period. And the way it's put together, They can't do it. They cannot do it. I know this for a fact because they've tried and they've lost. Houston County lost four times the way I put things together. State of Michigan tried back in ninety eight ninety nine. They lost. So I know this stuff works. I know the way it's designed and put together. I know it works. So. The other aspect is that the Michigan Trust Code, written by the same attorneys as the Michigan Ask My Tax, are doing everything they can to pierce those veils. Yes. Okay. This is a grab of your assets, a grab of money, power, and control over anything and everything. But we have to learn how to put things in place. You have to learn how to put this information together so that they cannot do it. It puts a roadblock up and they'll never be able to pierce through it. So that's why I harp on this so much is that you've got to get yourself protected so that they can't use anything against you. And so, you know, the courts have tried. I aggravate the hell out of them. I did do it on purpose. You know, I go in there, I have fun with them clowns, you know, and I got them so twisted right now. They really don't know what to do. They're making more and more mistakes. Fantastic. I'm going to use it against them. So now I receive more threats. And it's like, okay, you know what? Duly noted. You're just adding fuel to the fire here. You're adding more ammunition from when we go into court. I'm going to say, yeah, you're a domestic terrorist organization. Here's why. Here's a threat. Here's a threat. And you're doing it through the U.S. mail. Thank you. What's that called? Mail fraud. Thank you. Gee, you make my job easy. So, yeah. I'm still and will be always an advocate for getting yourself protected. And the trusts are, the trust law is key. Trust law is premier. And what I was going to say earlier, the courts are administrative. So when you have everything in the trust and they violate the terms of that trust, guess who appears now? The executor. And when the executor appears, all administration stops. They can't administrate once the executor appears. And an executor can only be a living man or woman, not an artificial entity. So when the executor appears, they have to stop doing what they're doing. They have to stop the shenanigans. And the executor now takes control of the court. The executor now lays out the terms and conditions. And the executor now makes them the fiduciaries with the responsibility to the beneficiaries. Changes the whole dynamics. It turns the whole court inside out. And now they have to follow, guess what, the Constitution. They really don't know what to do with all of this stuff in the injustice system. No, no, because the administrative courts are designed to keep you a dependent, to keep you as the debtor. We're not the debtors. We're the creditors. We can never be denied our own credit. You apply for a credit card and they deny it. Guess what? They just committed a violated the federal law of discrimination because they're discriminating against you from accessing your credit. So, yeah, there's a lot to this. Hopefully, we're going to keep teaching everybody how to do this stuff and how to get their rights back. That's key. You've got to learn how to get your rights back. You've got to learn how to protect your rights and enforce your rights. We are the superior under the Constitution, not them. They're the employees. We're the employers. What's really amazing is to watch how disrespectful they are. You know, it's like they've turned all of our township meetings into tribunals. They're absolutely, you know, they'll like, you know, you might speak for three minutes and then you will sit down. We actually had Don Tillman tell everybody here that if you try to stay up here for more than three minutes, we will have you forcibly removed. They're threatening to remove people. Right. And that threat along right there is a criminal act. Can you go up there and say, hey, I'm going to give you three minutes. If you don't, we're going to forcibly remove you. What would happen? Oh, yeah. Wouldn't go too well. Right. I might need a little help on that because I think that's another lawsuit that I need to file or a notice that needs to be given to them. Because I'm not sure, like the lawsuits, they're kind of like, I don't know, they muckety muck it around in the court system. Not sure the quickest way to do this, but I'm kind of thinking the notices might be the best way. You got to start off with notices. You hit them with a notice of liability. You give them a twenty one days. Then you hit them with a notice of non-response because they'll never respond to any of these notices. But you got to go through the process. I've heard people who have more than twenty one days to respond. Is that correct or not? I use twenty one days and then I go to fifteen days, ten days and then five days. So after four notices, you don't even give me a jingle or an email saying, hey, we want to talk. You know what? Your silence is actually yes. You're admitting that everything is true and factual that's contained within that notice. And you're agreeing by a tacit agreement to the terms and conditions of what I want through my fee schedule as remedy to the situation. What would you charge somebody on a fee schedule for that? Deprivation of a right is one million lawful money, which is gold and silver. If you're going to pay me in the US, the current fiat currency of the US right now, it's a twenty five to one ratio. If I consent to allowing you to do so. not a bad way to go. So I think that should be my next step because it's just start papering these people with notices because the amount of violations and laws that they have broken and just basically spitting on the constitution is just kind of shocking. When you listen to these people in the planning board, we have one guy that likes to get up there and say, well, it is my opinion that this is how we apply this. It's like, You don't have the right to have an opinion on this. It's like the Wild West. It's whoever's up there gets to make the decisions and say, all right, you guys are all going to do this, pat us on the head and kick us out the door. And if you violate what we say, we're going to have you forcibly removed. Well, this is, again, why I have a hard time with them being a charter. I have a hard time with them being and acting as corporations, right? Nowhere in our founding documents, and again, that's the Declaration of Independence, Northwest Ordinance, Art of Confederation, US Constitution, Bill of Rights. Nowhere, anywhere containing any of those does it say the word democracy. It also doesn't say corporation. It also doesn't say charter. So where did they find and acquire the delegated authority to do so? They're supposed to govern, not act as a corporation for profit. And we did a FOIA. Now, we're supposed to have separation of power, okay? The who holds office in one branch of office cannot have the powers that of another. That's your separation of powers. U.S. Supreme Court has ruled on that. It's, you know, goes without saying. Yet, when you FOIA a chartered township, And we've done this. We've done this. I've asked, okay, give me a list of all your executive branch members and give me a list of all your legislative branch members. They're the same. They're the same. So where's the separation of power? There is none. Why? Because they're a corporation. Now, if I have a company, does the same people who sit on the board of that company, are they executive and legislative at the same time? Yes, they are, because they're under the veil of a corporation. Under the veil of a corporation, that means what? They don't have to follow the Constitution anymore? That's what it appears to be. Let me ask you this. So I just looked it up because I've had this and I wanted to have the right language. This is according to Grok. I said, is it a Byron Township, a chartered township? It says no. Byron Township in Kent County, Michigan is not a chartered township. It's a civil township, which is a default form of township government in Michigan. So what do you do with that? Well, now they've got a bigger problem. Now they have no excuse not to act de jure. So if they're not acting to jury, none of them have immunity, and all of them are liable for every act that they commit personally. They can't even hide under the veil of a corporation status. Because if they're not a charter, they have zero excuse not to guarantee you a Republican form of government. They have zero excuse not to be acting to jury at all times pursuant to Norton. They have no excuse. At least with the charters. We have no representation. Well, we're a charter township. Yeah, we have no representation here. None. Zero. Anything we bring up to them, they'll just blow right past it and rubber stamp things for the developers, which they're most of them developers, realtors. We may have to start putting commercial liens on them. Okay. How do you do that? Because I've had other people talk about that too. I'd like to know that process. I'm learning the process right now. Okay. So that's another thing. I've got another friend, Aaron, who's an expert on commercial liens for public functionaries. And I think that that's another thing that we should really look at because of them destroying our water, our water rights to our properties. And I think that that's probably coming. All of these alternative ways. I mean, I'm hoping that we set the standard for the United States right here just due to an overabundance of stubborn resolve. We're definitely going to be laying and paving the way for everyone else on a lot of different areas. I think so, too. Michigan is the head of the snake. Domestic terrorism. There's going to be several things that are going to make major changes in the way things are done. And it has to be done. I mean, everybody that's out there, I hope you're paying attention to this and passing that on to other people. Because I think we're at the crossroads of massive change right now. And I'm hoping that we will see some huge motion here within the next few weeks. I'm really hoping, like we said, if the government shuts down, I'm going to be doing a happy dance. This is a criminal, criminal organization that's going on right now. And it's from top to bottom. It needs to be cleaned out. Yeah. And I don't know if people, because people are so afraid of change, they can't even get their arms around the fact that we've never lived free. Not one of us alive has ever lived without the threat and coercion of government over our heads, requiring us to do things that they had no authority to do. It's gotten worse. People have not been taught how to self-govern. Right. So even if, you know, people put a lot of eggs in the basket of President Trump, but I'll go back to that again. How can one guy do the entire United States? It's irrational thought, totally irrational thought. People are going to have to step up and say, you know, pick me. I'll do it. I'll step up. I'll sacrifice. I'll help instead of expecting somebody else to fix all their problems. We have to get the mindset up. We're responsible for our lives. Nobody owes us a thing. Nobody owes us a living or any favors or anything. They don't owe us. No one owes us anything. And we need to take responsibility for our actions, for what we do, for taking care of the people we love, to doing the right thing and taking responsibility for living here and being the body of Christ instead of being children, dependent children of the state. What are you teaching your kids and your grandkids if you're not stepping up? Right. What kind of world are you leaving them if you don't step up? The world where everything is measured by how much did you play in worthless pursuits. It's like when we grew up, what did we do? We learned to work. I had a discussion with somebody this weekend. It's like when I look at the amount of time wasted on cell phones with people that are at work, OK, I am an employer. I know that what I speak and how much time people spend on those stupid cell phones and taking calls and taking texts and screwing around on social media and such. This is absolutely horrifying to me. When you go to work, put the cell phone down. If it's an emergency, I get it, okay? But your time and your attention should be on the job. That's why a lot of the injuries happen. Honestly, people are everywhere except for paying attention to what's around them. And you and I have worked construction. We know what we're talking about here. If you're not paying attention, your likelihood of getting hurt is going to be much, much higher. I had three year olds on the crew and I would confiscate their cell phones and especially when they're up on a roof. I can catch them on a roof, hiding around the peak, around the other corner of a roof line, you know, and they're sitting there sitting on the cell phones. Uh-uh, sorry guys, that's done. You get your cell phones back at lunch and at the end of the day. Otherwise, no, you're on my time, not your time. So you lose phone privileges because you're pulling shenanigans up there. Plus you're risking injury, not only to yourself, but to somebody else for not paying attention. Right. And the other thing is that they're worthless as employees because it is an employee or is doing a job. I'm sure you're the same kind of person that I am. I'm thinking twenty steps ahead. So it's like it's like when you're doing one action, I'm thinking about the next actions and how I can roll them in to be more efficient. If you're on the cell phone, you're fumbling around like, okay, now what am I going to do next? They're not thinking. Instead of being at peak performance for your job or peak performance for getting things done, it's like dragging a dead horse of liability with you when you have an employee that's like that. It's exhausting. It's demoralizing and realizing that the next person you hire is probably going to be as disengaged and literally stupid because they're under like a hypnotic trance from that telephone. Well, what I also used to do is because it would be, you know, they wouldn't pay attention to crap and all that. I'm like, all right, we're going to solve this problem. You guys can listen to whatever you want on the radio until twelve o'clock. At twelve o'clock, Rush Limbaugh, this is back years ago, Rush Limbaugh would come on. And they'd be like, when it first started, oh, I don't want to listen to that. Well, after a while, it was like, hey, it's twelve o'clock, Rush is on. And they would go and turn the radio on to Rush. And you know what? They educated themselves through Rush. They got to learn things. They become more aware of things. And you know, better educated on what's going on around them. So it wasn't just coming from me or some of us others that were, you know, overseeing the jobs, but also they're hearing it through the radio, through Rush, and Rush was a good teacher on a lot of that stuff. And so they learned, and then they would start to, you know, apply it to their everyday lives. And that's how you teach. That's how you get them to learn. So, you know, unfortunately, Russia is no longer around. I don't know who's on the radio anymore that really... We are. We are the news. And so, you know, and there's another warning here. for those networks or stations or even alternative media. If they're making money off of this, it's compromised. In some way or another, it is compromised. It may be a little compromised or it may be a lot compromised. But if there's a money exchange, it's compromised. Do you remember how news used to be they were required to have local news on before cnn they had to have so many hours to have news on but they didn't make any money off the news it was like public service and announcements and that so they didn't make any money it was to inform people well we've gone into version you know at this point in ways of of making money off of the news and turning it into an indoctrination propaganda machine Why is CNN the only channel allowed to be in airports? Right? Exactly. Why aren't we allowed to be in these areas to have access? Why is it that they censor so much? We're being censored all the time. I know we are. But you know what? We keep going. And as I've told, I think we talked about it the other day. I know I talked to John about it yesterday. The amount of content that we have put out on Brandenburg News Network is just incredible. How much content we've done over the years here. it's not a waste of time even to do it for a smaller audience and say CNN, because you know what? We're creating an archive of what actually happened with no censorship here. And I got a feeling that some of the stuff that we're talking about, like what you and I are talking about and John's talking about and such is probably going to last way past when we're no longer alive. I've got that feeling because it's raw. It's ornery a lot of the time because we're sick of their crap. And unless somebody's talking about these things which are not popular or part of mainstream fake stream media, it is absolutely created content by these other people. We're just talking. We don't create content. We don't plan what we're going to say in the morning. It's just like having a discussion with friends and sharing knowledge and such. I think I want to do some more call-ins and shows because you listen to what people talk about, and it is raw. I mean, it is just the way it is. It's not manipulated. I had somebody just recently – make the statement that, well, the object is to live free. Yes. Well, then why go out there and constantly have to have this fight? Why are you always in these arguments? Why are you always having these fights? You can't beat the government. It's just the way it is. And I'm like, well, if that's what you want to do, if you think you're living free, not paying attention to what the government does, if you think you're living free, not opposing them, if you think you're living free, ignoring what's going on, I got news for you. I got news for you. You're not living free. You're doing exactly what they want you to do as a good little slave. You have failed, and I mean failed, to do your job. Your job, all of our jobs, is to question what they do. Our job is to oversee them in what they do, to make sure they're not stepping out of line, that they're not doing things that are depriving us of our rights. That's our job. We are the grantors of this trust, okay? Our founding documents is a trust indenture. We are the grantors and we are the beneficiaries. Look at how they've taken over our children. The jurisdiction of raising children, they are now owned by the state. In all functional discussions, the state owns your children. And how many parents have turned their children over to be raised by the state? state schools, state churches, state everything. And you look at Byron Township with a hundred and ten million dollar bond on the table by parents that spend more time buying off their kids attention by giving them everything that they ever thought they wanted instead of spending time with them and putting them into all these worthless pursuits, which have no bearing on what they're going to earn during their life, being able to have a knowledge of civics or any of this. It is absolutely worthless. And by doing that, it's literally disabling parents entirely from being parents, teaching their children, handing their kids over to have somebody else raise their kids. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yeah. Why? Well... I mean, if you really want to take a look at this, what do you do when you go to get married? You contract with the state. That's right. You get a license. You're getting permission from the state to enter into a contract. And who's that contract really with? If you really think about it, take a look at the paperwork and look at what you just did. When you get a marriage license, The groom and the bride are contracting with the state, not each other. And when they get divorced, guess what? The state now, because of that contract, has control over your kids, your assets. Yeah, your stuff. So do you actually need a contract with the state to be a lawful marriage? No, you do not. No, you do not. That's a legal marriage, a legal contract, not a lawful contract under God. You should be signing it. You have a family Bible. You sign everything into that Bible. You have it witnessed. There's your marriage. There's your commitment to each other right there. The state has no business as an outside third party to that contract or union between a man and a woman. None. Right. And they just want to take your stuff. And they're betting that you're going to fail. They're literally betting that you're going to fail so they can take your stuff. They make it so you do fail. Yes. They make it so you do fail because they profit from that. yep taxes and everything it's like our government is a for-profit entity they are they are literally making so much money off of us that i think people would be shocked if they if they thought about it that way they've got all their little non-profits which actually are for-profits but it just has to show it on the balance sheet so they manipulate them up the numbers You know, a good statistician or somebody who understands how to manipulate numbers can prove anything out. That's another level of manipulation. But have you ever taken statistics? I have. You can prove anything out. A good statistician can. Yeah. I am not a good statistician. I'm a lousy one. I had to take it when I was in college. Right. But I understand the process. And I think that that's something that's important to understand of the manipulation. And I don't know if you remember this because you're younger than I am. But when I was in my twenties, if you were getting married, you had to go in and have a full exam. And I mean a full exam before you could get married. Think about this. I don't know if they still do this anymore, but you had to go see a doctor in order to get and qualify for a marriage license. This isn't anything new. This has been going on for a very long time. I don't remember. I never had to do that. Yeah, that was the thing. If you were in the twenties, you had to have a full exam. before you would be granted a license to get married. Think about this. I mean, we've all been questioning things here for a few years here on BNN. Why is everything illegal absent a license? Why is everything illegal absent a license from the state or the federal government? It's a money grab. That's all it is. Yeah. It's revenue raising. Yes. That's all it is. Because they are a for-profit entity to grow the government, to have more government, to take more money, to have more regulation, and have more theft of our rights. They want us enslaved. They want us dead. It goes higher than the government. Who controls the governments? The World Bank's. And who controls them? Satan himself, I allege. I mean, this is another rabbit hole that we can go down sometime. But yeah, the governments are only a pawn. Governments are a pawn. It's theater. And I feel the same thing. Do you know how absolutely... Dumb as a rock, these politicians are. Oh, my gosh. It's like run for office and you want to see stupid. You're going to see stupid on parade. I met with a I met with a governor or a secretary of state candidate up in in Mackinac. And I'm going to tell you what I, the only question I asked her is, I said, will you prosecute the election crimes? Her answer was, well, if there, if there are any election crimes, yes, I would be able to prosecute this. And I'm like going, you don't even have the base knowledge of what's been done to be able to prove out. There's enough proof there, you know, to, to choke an elephant on out there. And you have the audacity to say that. I automatically disqualified this woman. She is not qualified for the job. And her name is Monica. She's out of Macomb County. Absolutely disqualified for the job. Totally. We couldn't even have a discussion on, well, do you know Monica? I was done. I was completely done right then and there because she doesn't even realize that there were, what, eleven million more people voting than were registered to vote? I'm like, how can you even justify this? How can you justify people that are in part of our system that are dead voters? How can you justify this? We couldn't even have a discussion because she had no knowledge. And I'm like, total disqualified right there on the spot. If you have one fraudulent vote, that's a tainted election. But it's almost like, well, that's only one. Well, how many does it have to take to make it a disqualified election? It's a violation of the constitutional rights of everybody having their voices heard. On that one day, we are all equal. And if one person is deprived of their vote, had vote dilution or all of this, how can you look at this and say that it was a free and fair election? We have not had a free and fair election for many, many, many years. But we sure as heck proved it out in the twenty twenty election. Well, there's there's so much proof out there then. And right now I'm going to go to this accuracy test. In Byron Township, which they couldn't even get through their website, the correct time to download from the calendar to people's phones. And it's at one o'clock. And I don't know if you heard the call, but we taped it because we called in and said, no, it's one to one thirty. But when you download from the calendar, it shows up as five to five thirty. That's deliberate, intentional misleading of the people. It's deliberate. It's fraud. Yeah, that's where you get. That's where people are going to have to start filing lawsuits against these people. Oh, I don't know how to do a lawsuit. I got news for you. You can come to our Thursday group. We have information. We're going to teach people how to do this stuff. You don't know how to write a court brief? No problem. There are AI programs out there. We will help you operate the AI system. Which program AI do you like the best? Right now, we're leaning towards Grok. I like Grok. I think Grok does a great job at it. But the AI programs are only as good as its user. You have to have information because you're going to have to go up and look through every single court case that it puts out there. You're going to have to go and look them up and read them and see if it's pertinent because sometimes it hallucinates. And you have to know the law enough to say, what are the constitutional violations? What is the violation of the law? You need to be able to ask those questions of it and get down to the finer points to get a really good case written. yes yes but the thing is but we can teach you the basics and get you started we can point you in the right direction of a lot of case law to to get started so you know if you're worried about that you know join us on thursday um come check us out and uh if you like what you see in here then uh you can apply for membership but uh and then we get into the really deep dive stuff But, yeah, I mean, this information is out there. There's no excuse for anybody. There are no excuses. Well, so guess what? The Ottawa County has just – the group I was going to meet with today, the planning commission meeting has been canceled, so we're regrouping and want to postpone the meeting with me today. that we were supposed to have today. Wow. This is, this is amazing. Um, I'm going to talk to her because there's groups all over the state that are reaching out to me right now. This is going to, this is going to grow this water wars thing and holding people accountable in the townships. I don't even really want to go to any of these national events anymore because I like going, there's some nice people that I meet there and there are people that are working federally as well as nationally, as well as in the States that are doing the right thing. There, there are a lot of good people working that you'll probably never hear their names. Okay. Behind the scenes. It's not the ones that stand out in front of the cameras and ones that are working behind, but I'm going to tell you what, if we do not get these townships under control and I've talked to the FBI about it and the guy that I talked to said, look at all your townships. They're all stocked with developers, builders, developers, and appraisers and realtors look at what their professions are they were placed in that position to subvert and work their beholden to the corporations and they're beholden to their own greed And then they seek their bar attorneys to be able to cover for them, to fabricate things, to fabricate the permits by EGLE and such. They will literally go in there and cover for each other when they screw up. This is a crime syndicate that we have going on. But if we don't get this under control, the townships and people don't start, you know, I have literally put my name up there and my name. So my my name as well as let me see if I can get this thing to come up. My number. It's like freaking call me or text me. Text me first is usually the best because I if you text me first, if I'm online like this, I'm not going to answer the phone. I might look at it and send something like, you know, text me later or something like that. But call or text me. I can get you in contact with Mike's group. If you can't find it on Telegram or anybody else, which I posted it multiple times, right? And this is Mike's. Let's see if I can get it. There's Mike's group right there. If you're not plugged in, get plugged in because we're going to have to deal with this. And if you've got problems with water, with water wars, bam, there's your phone friend right there. There's groups all over the state that are dealing with the same thing, and we're going to have to put something together to address that and be with people. I've got a guy over in Fenton that's being targeted on another issue of usurping his right. Having a public functionary admit that they are targeting the service that he provides under bias, and they're going from one town to the next to the next. to tell them, Nope, you can't do this. You can't do this kind of business. We are working. The guy said it. We are working to abolish all of this type of business in the entire county. How can you say this? It's unbelievable. And it's an alternative health facility that actually does a good job. I really think they do a great job. It's Mana BioHealth. I've had them on here before. And here, I'm just going to read you the threat that they came under. And his name is Mike Johnson. I'm going to call him out because I'm sick of their shit. is what it comes down to. It's not even funny. If they put the business into a trust or PMA and then just continue doing business as such, they lose their jurisdiction over the business by doing so. Because under a PMA, they have no codes and statutes don't apply. Federal, state codes and statutes don't apply to PMAs. This is what they did. So it's under the building inspectors, and they just showed up without a warrant with anything. They just keep showing up. And I said, they can't do that. First of all, they can't walk on your property and come in like the little Gestapo Nazis that they are, KGB. And Mike Johnson said, the owner said, why are we being the only wellness center being targeted in the state of Michigan? Mike Johnson, the building inspector up in Fenton said, if it were up to me, I'd have the entire state shut down. but other cities are out of my jurisdiction. As a matter of fact, I'm having a meeting with all the other inspectors in the surrounding area, and I'm going to make damn sure that they all know about NFPA. So that anyone, everyone around the county knows not to allow hyper barracks in their area either. Bring a claim against them. Number one, the building department is advisory only. They are an office de facto. So the only thing they can do is advise. The building code is a suggested way of doing something. It is not a law. The building official has usurped his authority. I would bring a federal claim against them and drag his ass kicking and screaming into federal court. Well, they have a permission from the city of Goodrich to open it up. And then all of a sudden- Permission? What's that? Permission? I need permission. Permission. This is what Laura Alexander says. There are not any restrictions in our ordinances which prohibit soft shell hyperbaric chambers. Thank you for reaching out. So he actually reached out to them. Okay. OK, so the point being is that now this commie, this Nazi guy who's posing as someone with authority to do so, which he doesn't, decided to go and make sure to tell everybody across the county. And he's going to go across the state to to determine what can be done and what can't be done. That's defamation. That's evasion of privacy. I mean, there's a list of violations that he's committing there that could be very easily. I'd hit him with an administrative process, notice of liability, non-response, default, and then take his ass to federal court. He has to show his de jure status. He has to show where he had any authority to do anything that he's done, which he can't do. He can't prove. And I'd sue his ass into non-existence. I'd go after his bond, force his bonding company to drop him. And maybe a lien. And maybe a lien. And a lien, yeah. And a lien. And not only do you go after him personally and his personal persona, you go after his wife personally. Because she's benefiting from what he is doing. So because she's benefiting, if she has her own job and income, guess what? Those marital assets are both tangible now. So you go after both of them. Yeah. And that's a really good point because you look at what they do with the wives. Most of the crimes that are committed by public functionaries, they'll do it under their wives' names. So what happened when I did a real deep dig into this years ago and found the trail of what happened with Blue Cross Blue Shield of Michigan and how that got passed from Whitmer's dad, her daddy, to dan lope who was really the one that got that was pushing whitmer into being our governor dan lope got a a payoff in i believe and it went to his wife Amy Tattery, and she set up foundations and foundations. And I got to think about this. I don't want to miss misspeak about it. Trusts in order to move that. I think it was eighteen eighteen million dollars that he got paid for what for what he had done. And that really moved Blue Cross Blue Shield of Michigan from a beneficiary trust to a mutual. They took it right out of the hands of the people of America. And they were guilty as hell over this. And then the payoff, look at who gets the payoff and then look up the wife and look at if she's filed any foundations, trusts or anything else like that, NGOs or moves that money into another because they're the ones that they know. That's how they hide things, just like they hide things by spelling. So we get really good at looking at what they do to hide things. Michonne Maddock, she's got things, Michonne, Mershon, Mixon, whatever it is out there, changed her name in a million different ways. And it's like, just look further and you'll find it. You'll find it all. Yeah, you had to do your homework. It takes a little time, but do the research. Yeah. So with that said, here, well, let's do this. Let's go ahead and go to our day. I think that the horse is good. Everybody can rest easy. I think we got the horse situation. I really thought we were going to have to put him down yesterday. I'm very glad that I went and checked it out. But like I said, I don't go to panic. I just go to dealing with it. And I think that's an important mindset. Don't let them run you around. And an emotional capture here because that's what you're doing. Don't be reactionary. Yep. Now respond. But when you respond, you have to respond without going into crazy world. Okay? That's just the way it is. So let's say a prayer and then we'll have last words and go about our day. Dear Heavenly Father, thank you so much for Mike and for Karen and all the wonderful people out there who are... willing to give of their time, their treasure and their sacred honor to restore this nation to what it was supposed to be in one nation under you. We're so thankful. We're thankful for every single person who's taking the time to listen to what's going on and to become involved with what's going on. We thank you for every single person out there that is taking the time to learn and to equip themselves with the knowledge that it takes to go forward without fear and but with the skills and ability to hold people accountable. Thank you so much for John and for Susie. We ask your blessings on their marriage and everyone that came to that wonderful event this weekend. It was just a pleasure for all of us to get together and that you, you bring us together so that we have fun standing with each other and function as friends and family. It's wonderful. It's a wonderful, wonderful thing to be alive right now and really find out who you Who is willing to stand? It's quite a winnowing time. It's a time of separating the wheat from the chaff. And I'm so thankful that you've given us this gift. It really is a gift. Thank you so much. We just want you to know that we love you. Please give us all the peace that passes understanding today, the strength to stand in rough times and the ability to stand without going into an emotional reaction to be the calm in the storm. We love you so very much. And thank you for always being with us, never leaving us nor forsaking us, being with our families and our friends and all those whom we love. In Jesus' precious name we pray. Amen. All right, so last words. Just get out there, get active, get involved. Pay attention to what goes on around you. Don't get caught up in all the three-ring circus. Don't be reactionary. Don't waste your time on a lot of drive-by media propaganda. Do your research. Get educated. Come join us on Thursday, and we'll help you with the process. Yeah, you don't have to know everything. Nobody knows everything. When somebody knows a subject, it's because they've invested themselves into the time to learn it. I'm still learning the notice process. I can't sit down and go do-do-do-do-do and have a notice and know it's going to be perfect. But I've got people like Mike and Greg and John and Karen. And other people who have been out there, all the people in the groups that are out there that have been doing this for a long time. And I'm thankful for every single person who's invested the time to learn this and is willing to teach the rest of us how this is done. It's amazing. So don't feel like you're stupid. I know a lot of times you'll go into the groups and the groups will literally make you feel real stupid when you get in there. I can tell you there's been a couple groups that I've gotten involved in, and they want to make sure that you know that they know everything. I'm not saying this to any of the groups in general because I've been in many, many, many, many groups over the years. And they do what horse people will do sometimes, which I detest. You'll show up, and this is an example. I see it all the time in the horse world. People will show up that are afraid of horses. And then the horse person who has the experience with them that will literally hold that horse in check every single time, they'll put somebody on a horse that they're not quite ready for yet to display this wonderful knowledge that they have, their superiority, and make that person fail. I've seen it over and over again. I despise it. And it ruins the ability for people to get involved with horses almost forever, unless you get somebody like myself that says, you know what, we're going to go through this together. I've had people that have come absolutely terrified. I'm like, I'll put my arm around them while they're in the saddle and say, I'm going to be right here. You bail off that saddle and jump on me if you're scared at any point in time. And we'll walk and I'll walk with that person around the arena. I'll walk and I'll walk and I'll walk with that person. And all of a sudden I'll start seeing them relax. That's what you do with horses. You watch them relax. I'm watching for the signs that the rider is starting to get used to that motion that they're not used to. And I'll say, hey, you know what? What do you think about this? Let's do it this way and hold on to my arm or we'll hold on. Then we'll move to holding hands. And I'll say, okay, you seem really comfortable. Your seat is great. You're doing fantastic. I'm going to stand right next to you and I'm going to walk with you and you just sit that saddle. And if you're scared, you bail on me. I'm going to walk with you every step that you're on that horse. I will not leave your side. And all of a sudden they get more comfortable. And I'm like, I think you got this. How about because this is with somebody leading them while I'll be next to them as their their life preserver, right? I'm like, I think you got this. Let's see if you can take a few steps without me right next to him. It's a long process. This doesn't happen in five minutes. Okay. with a person that's been thrown or kicked or bit or had a horse run away with them or something like that and I'll be like let's just see I'll be right here if you need I'm pretty confident the horse isn't going to do anything because I would never put a person on a horse that was more than a horse that they could handle that's mean it's sadistic as hell it's wrong on every level And it's not okay. And it's not okay when we go into groups or we are part of groups to make people feel stupid either. It's good because here, you know, we have people at different levels. And in some groups, there's people at different levels. But it's not okay to make people feel stupid ever. And then I'll back off and I'll let them walk a little bit. Let them walk. And after about one half lap around the arena, That person is so secure that they can sit that ride by themselves and it will be the next time they'll be using the reins. And it actually happens quicker than people think, but it does take some time. And in the groups, remember, we're talking to people who have no knowledge. We never, just to be clear, none of us came out of the womb knowing this stuff. It's a lifelong pursuit. Mike has put decades into this. I've put time into it. Other people put time. I haven't put as much time into what Mike knows and what Mike has because we all have our own life that we've seen. and experienced and we bring things in. So I don't ever want anybody to feel stupid or anything. Just listen. And all of a sudden you're going to be up to speed as you have people like us here to be your safety net. Mike's group is a safety net to go get involved in. And the same thing for the people that do notices with Greg Martini's group. It's a safety net for you to get in and start asking questions, get your feet wet and start listening. Some of it's going to be really overwhelming. It is for me when I join new groups. When I first went into the group that they do notices, I was like, I'm never going to catch up with these people. And there was no quick steps to learn. And when Greg came on my show, that's when I really started learning the process because everybody else was off and run into the races. And remember, we really need to work on that a little bit to bring people alongside of us and not make them feel stupid. So on Thursday, we have a visitor center. All our episodes are recorded. So all the we break everything down into very simple educational segments. And so if you're coming in the middle of something, go to our visitor center. You go back into the archives. You can go back to the beginning of. of how to do a trust you know our first episode was what's the importance of a trust i mean we start there and work forward showing all the all the process and all the education on it and so you can very quickly spend a day going back listening and watching the videos and get yourself caught up if there's something you missed or don't understand you can go back and watch it again And what I like about you is you don't do it for money. And I'm going to tell you right now, I think you're a wonderful teacher because you start out by asking questions. You ask questions and make people go, yeah, that doesn't make any sense. That makes no sense at all. And then all of a sudden that cognitive dissonance starts to disappear on people. You know, I see it when you're on all the time because I'm reading the comments and and interacting. I've got like five screens going on at one time here, but you're a wonderful teacher. I, I would, I would highly encourage people to join and, and find out how to do this. Don't waste your time with this nonsense in the news. Like, like the pimping, the dad, Charlie Kirk bullshit that's going on. I'm so done with this. And there's some good things that have come out of it. There's a lot of people that have had to ask that question. Wow. Could we be killed if we disagree with people? The answer is that is yes. Is it, you know, should we be turning back to God? Yes. Yes. I do believe that we have to have a standard and we need to be turning back to God. I believe that within the, you know, from the bottom of my heart. And so there's always good. God can take everything and turn it around to good things. For those who are called according to his purposes. I do believe that. I really do. But we need to ask questions and really question the narrative and how much time of yours they're wasting. They're wasting your life. And so that's all I have to say about it. But at any rate, I've got a million calls that have just started coming in here. So we'll have to see what's happening. But thanks for being on today. And so that's where we go to that part of the show, boys and girls. Ding, ding, ding, ding. My twenty twenty two protest. It's not going away, which is please go to Brandenburg Governor dot com because I'm the best non-conceder is ever not conceded in the history of the United States of America. And I like to have a discussion with the rightful president of the United States, President Donald Trump. Cowboy Woods, who wears matter. We talk about this, that we fix stuff. OK, and that means going back. to the original intent and peeling off this layering of subversion and treasonous nonsense that they've got out there. So with that said, God bless you all. God bless all those whom you love, and God bless America. Go out and make it a great day. You know, I ended up talking to somebody in a parking lot of the store this week. He was a veteran. And I stopped and thanked him for his service. We ended up having a great conversation, his name is Alex, about how he and I reach out to strangers and just let people know that we care. Open the door for people. And don't open the door and go in in front of them like a bunch of... idiots, that's not been taught. Gracious conduct has not been taught. Open the door, take a minute and wait. Be gracious. Acknowledge that they're there. Acknowledge that people around you are there and show them that you care because there's a lot of hurting people out there. So with that said, I'm going to end the broadcast and we will see you tomorrow with Liberty Essentials and Greg Martini. Thanks for being on. Yep.