Published April 10, 2025, 9:01 a.m.
9am Scott Zimmerman (my friend) is an "OG anon" who got lucky and stumbled across Q within the first week and kept on diggind. Scott is known on X as "Beer at the Parade" and hosts his weekday podcasts at 5pm EST on Rumble. Scott has built a wide network within the anon community and has been fortunate to have intervied many well-respected patriots. His "Friday Night Zooms" are legendary and many diggers around the world have shared theories, jokes, and adult beverages while solving world problems and swapping puns about fecal matter. And, yes, in case you are wondering, Scott wrote this bio and had to read it verbatim. Ladies and gentlemen, I present to you, the world's most brilliant, humble, attractive, wealty, humble, physically fit, humble man who is secretly jealous that other people get to tell other people that they have met him...Beer at the Parade!! 10am Bryan Courchesne - The founder of Palm Beach base DAIM, Brian Courchesne is no stranger to managing risk and being on the forefront of innovation as we head into a new digital era and the 21st Century financial landscape. In 2018, Bryan worked with regulators to create DAIM as the first of its kind Registered investment Advisor for digital assets. As the CEO of DAIM, he and his team advise and manage digital asset positions for individuals and corporations. X/Twitter: https://x.com/i/broadcasts/1ypKdZnjpYQJW Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/636616148890812/videos/1224074912387626 Rumble: https://rumble.com/v6rwon1-bnn-brandenburg-news-network-4102025-og-anon-scott-zimmerman-and-daim-bryan.html https://rumble.com/v6rwojt-bnn-brandenburg-news-network-4102025-og-anon-scott-zimmerman-and-daim-bryan.html Odysee: https://odysee.com/@BrandenburgNewsNetwork:d/bnn-2025-04-10-og-anon-scott-zimmerman-and-daim-bryan-courchesne:7 Guests: Donna Brandenburg, Scott Zimmerman, Bryan Courchesne
Good morning and welcome to Brandenburg News Network. I am Donna Brandenburg and it is the tenth day of April twenty twenty five. Welcome to our show today. Today I have on O.G. and on Scott Zimmerman first at nine o'clock and then at ten o'clock. We're going to be going to a gentleman who started a crypto and it's D.A.I.M. His name is Brian and I'm not exactly sure how to pronounce his last name. I met him and I don't want to screw it up. So we'll bring him on at ten o'clock and talk about that. Anyhow, I wanted to bring up to everyone, did you see the Gretch the Wretch in the Oldville office yesterday? I thought it was absolutely hilarious. Talk about a walk of shame. I'm pretty sure that right now, if you're called into President Trump's office, it's a come to Jesus meeting. That's pretty much what we're looking at. And with that said, I'm going to bring on my buddy Scott, and we're going to be talking about everything on the planet, including things that aren't what they seem. Morning, Scott. How you doing? Everything on the planet in sixty minutes goes together like fish and bicycles. So we better pick one and go fast. We're just good at this. So every Scott and I have been friends for many, many years. And so last night I called him and I had I had a time slot open this morning and I said, hey, can you come on this morning? And he said, yes. So so thank you to Scott for coming on this morning. And I think you're all going to enjoy this conversation because Scott's a wild man. I'm something. I don't know if I would categorize it as a wild man, but I've been with the same woman for thirty five years who gave up trying to tame me thirty four and a half years ago. There you go. So Scott's handle on X is Beer at the Parade. And so you can find him there and listen to it. You listen to his wisdom and what he posts and such. So what are we going to talk about today? Because there's a million directions we can go in. Well, first of all, people can find me on rumble at beer at the parade. All one word, no spaces on X. I'm at Scott Z Patriot. Cause they destroyed my account along with everyone else's back on the purge day. So I had to rebuild from scratch. So, you know, I still don't have my original account back. I don't want mine back. I actually feel like I can almost have a dialogue with fewer followers than I used to. It felt like, a monologue and that's not me. I think if I could wave a magic wand, I'd have thirty five hundred followers on social media. But I knew them. I knew the funny ones, the diggers, the that would be perfect just to lead a little group of diggers and researchers. You get up around ten, twenty thousand. You lose that relationship. So like on my on what I'm doing on my podcast is I want to speak with people, not at people. The brilliance is out there. We just need to tap into it. Yeah, and one of the things you do really well is you gather people into groups and such and make sure that they're all connected so that nobody's alone. And I really appreciate that a lot. So many people are having a hard time coping. Are you seeing that too? Yeah, we are in the proverbial eye of the hurricane, in my opinion. And we don't know when that second wall is coming in. So we've made it through, from what I can tell, we've made it through two of the three phases of the overall operation. So what I'm about to say doesn't really come from me. It comes from Lieutenant General Steve Quast, who built a little department of the government called Space Force. And boy, would I give to know exactly what Space Force's capabilities are, but I suspect That based on what we are seeing in Trump's behavior the past ten years, whatever Space Force is, in my estimation, must be a combination of the greatest group of carrots and the biggest sticks that I can ever imagine. And when I was blessed to interview the general and we got to the part on Trump's capitulation tour before Q started dropping. The General's demeanor changed, and I would suspect with his background and training, if anybody can keep a poker face, it's probably people like General Quast and General Michael Flynn that they can probably give you any expression they want at any time to get you to think or feel whatever they want you to think or feel. But when I somehow segued into the capitulation tour and the President's first inaugural address, The general got this big cheese-eating grin on his face and that wink in his eye like, keep going. So in the tail end of one of my interviews with him, I did something I rarely do, which you guys would find hard to believe, is I started talking. And I try to be way on the Tucker side, not the Sean Hannity side of my interviews. I want your story. I know my stories. They're boring. I've heard them before. But in this one instance, I just casually brought up subject of the capitulation tour and the general kind of went like go if you know this go so I ran and I just rattled off every world leader who it was and what they did to tell the rest of the world that's the guy and so in my little pre-interview with the general I asked him a few questions and one of his answers just triggered something in the back of my old army intelligence brain, which said, I wonder if that's still borderline classified. So I just said, sir, is what you just told me something you want me to keep in a black box? Happy to do so, just let me know. And I'll never forget his response was half of a chuckle followed by, I suspect you may have had a security clearance at one point in time. Let's say mine was a little higher than yours. And I'm comfortable with that which I'm about to say and that which I have said. So Scott, feel free to share everything I'm telling you off the record and on the record with as many people as you would like. So that changed my whole demeanor. And I said, well, let's see how fast we can run since we only had twenty minutes for the pre-interview. So I jumped in with both feet. I cannonballed. My first question was, so tell me what you can about the overall scope of the operations, not where we are today, but kind of soup to nuts. How big is it and where are we? And, uh, for those of you who followed Q Q would always post three movie posters. Like you were walking into a Cineplex now playing and there's movie one, movie two, movie three. And the way that I remember couching the question and the way that he answered the question, I strongly suspected we had both read the same things or very similar things because he didn't speak exactly Q language, but he spoke enough. where it kind of put the plausible deniability in place but it also was one of those little winks that he's I didn't wink I had something in my eyes sort of thing and he said uh well think of three operations remember q said three movies the general said think of three operations except they don't run consecutively they run concurrent or they don't run concurrently they run consecutively So in the queue drops, we would see three movie posters. And that would tell you when you walk in, you can pick A, B or C and watch one movie at a time. The general was suggesting the first movie starts and fades out and it fades into the second and then that fades into the third. So I got kind of excited knowing that I would kind of know where we are in this thing. Now, when I interviewed him, it was a year ago. So about eleven months ago was when I interviewed the general. And so the election was still probably seven or eight months out. We had hoped Trump would win in a landslide, but we didn't know. So his answer was fascinating to me on many levels. And he said, well, the first phase was we had to catch them committing irrefutable new crimes in real time. So when they would be exposed, there would be no pushback. So I said, well, I'm guessing that's Trump's first term. And he goes, I would agree with that by and large. OK. And he said the second phase was we had to show the world what a rogue government is capable of doing to their own people if left with minimal or no checks and balances. And so I didn't say it the way I'm going to say it now. I'll tell you as close as I can get. And I said, well, please tell me that that's Biden's term. And we're wrapping that phase up. He said, I would basically agree with that. So that reaffirmed that we let him steal the midterms in eighteen. We let him steal the twenty twenty election. For those of you with a good memory will recall that leading up to the twenty twenty election, Trump kept saying they're going to steal the election. Watch. Watch them. They're going to steal the election. And by God, they did. And he let him. So now I know the first two phases. So we had to show that we got to catch them. Now we got to show the world what these people are capable of doing. And then I'm on pins and needles. So the third phase, he said, without saying Trump is coming back, he said, Trump is coming back. So he said, what do you think would happen if our government was made completely transparent very quickly? And I thought about it and I said, well, that would describe the Hawthorne effect, which means the voting behavior and all of the behaviors of our elected leaders would change immediately because they know they're being both watched and measured. Controlled. What's that? Controlled. Controlled by who? Good guys. Me and you. There you go. That's good guys. Because that's right, because in one of his texts back to me and I take texts a lot more serious than I take conversations because you have to actually do this and it slows you down. He said transparency will put the power of the government back in the hands of the American people. And then he added the word forever, which I'll never forget. He added it to that text back to me. So when I suggested the Hawthorne effect, and for those of you who aren't geeks like I am, back in the Industrial Revolution in the eighteen hundreds, a guy named Hawthorne, who was a sociologist, theorized that if they went into factories and livened the place up, the productivity would go up. So they would go on into a baseline measurement of productivity and then they'd install all new lighting and made it place bright and cheery. And then they'd go back and measure. Of course, productivity went up. And Hawthorne theorized that they went in and made it darker and dingier and crappier than before they even did the first baseline. Productivity would not only go down from the improvement, it would go down below the original baseline. So they redid the place and they went in and they put on their lab coats and their clipboards and they went in and measured. And Donna, as you can well imagine, productivity went up again. Hawthorne's like, what the hell did we learn here? What they learned was it had nothing to do with the environment. It had to do with human nature. If people know they're being measured, behavior changes immediately. Kind of like focus groups, why they don't work. Everybody knows somebody's behind that two-way mirror paying attention. So what got me excited about this thing of behavior changing over. Oh, and then I, so I paused and I came back with a Hawthorne effect. And he said, close, but only half the cigar. And I said, so what's the other half? And he said, would it surprise you to know that most of the people that you people rightfully despise by and large are really good people. Now that was another Q drop Q had told us most of these are good people. So, because I had read the Q drops year before, when he said that answer to me, would it surprise you to know most of these are good people? I still was surprised to hear it from him. But I wasn't surprised completely. So I was still clear headed enough to reply with, well, sir, I couldn't figure out how we were going to drain the swamp. So if you've got five hundred congresspeople and senators, how do you replace eighty, ninety percent? But if you are correct and these are good people, by and large, what they're doing makes no sense unless they're working under complete duress. And he said, there you have it. Now, think about that. Most of our Congress people and senators are working under complete duress, but not by Trump, by their handlers. So if you'll remember in one of those early Q drops, they said, if you think we're going to start doing public arrests and trials and perp walks and all of these things without first cutting their communications, their finances, their chain of command, et cetera. You are watching, or they basically said, you probably shouldn't be in this conversation. Now, what they didn't tell us was it was going to be another eight to ten years. So had us early Q people known that, we would have never made it this far. So it was always free beer tomorrow, which is a manipulation tactic to keep people going, but it worked. So I've been in this thing now seven and a half years and I'm not going anywhere because I not only believe in what Q asked us to consider, but I've watched how they, Q and the people, whoever they are, have put an entire army of fifty, sixty and seventy year olds through boot camp. So instead of it taking us eight weeks to tear us down and rebuild us, it's taken them eight years. They have torn us down. They've recruited us. They purposely worded things and played the game in such a way that they when Flynn said in twenty sixteen, we have an army of digital soldiers. He was telling a half truth. This was in November of sixteen, right after Trump won the election. The half-truth was he will have an army of digital soldiers. The lie was now we have to go recruit them, which they did beautifully with the queue operation. So by creating a game and wording things a certain way, they knew they would attract highly intelligent, bored, game players who by and large were misfits with their family and in the school system and in society who are used to working independently, love winning, will win at any game. And we live for the Sunday crossword puzzles. Don't give me Monday or Tuesday. You'll just bore me. Give me Sunday and give me a pen and I'll start playing. So what Q did was they recruited smart, independent thinking, critical thinking people to play a game, but they knew that they couldn't use us to do the most important part of the operation, which was to wake up our family and friends, because they knew that we were the wise asses and the know-it-alls who as soon as we discovered Q would run around telling everybody, look what I found. And I know things you don't know, and it completely discredited us. So as I've been looking back over seven and a half years, I keep asking, Why would you recruit a whole legion of fifty, sixty, seventy, eighty year olds and give us all the right answers at the wrong time, knowing we would be discredited among our peers and our families and our friends and our coworkers? And it was to destroy our egos because they needed an army of digital soldiers who were servant leaders. So they couldn't go get servant leaders and teach them the queue operations. They had to go get smart people and make them servant leaders, which was a much longer road to hoe. Do you think it's a, it was a process to not, not just to break, break us down, but to actually vet the people that had the, the skillset, the mindset to never give up and never quit. Yeah, I think that the stick-to-itiveness is not really a test because people would just self-select in and out. I believe what they were looking for were people who were pure of heart, people that would never compromise their values and beliefs for anything or anyone. So they were looking for consistency, I think was the biggest word. was if they put A in front of you often, are you likely to do B, ninety nine times out of one hundred? And if the answer is eighty nine times out of one hundred, they would just gently let you move yourself out of the game because you weren't getting any oxygen anymore. So they I believe that they use the Q drops as way to point at certain accounts. And And then the account could stand or fall on its own based on future behavior. So if Q would maybe point at account more than once, that was a pretty big indicator. You might want to pay some attention to that account. Now, if I were half as smart as the people on the Q team, I wouldn't leave that up to crossing my fingers that they could go find a thousand Bob Smiths who were just built to do this beautifully and to be the perfect pawns and knights and bishops on the chessboard. I would create Bob Smiths because full control would mean full control. So for every time they might point at a beer at the parade and something I might decode or drop or talk about, They may have been pointing at a praying medic or a Julian's rum. And I'm making these up. I know some of these guys and they're real people, but they might point at another account that might be the guy sitting next to them on the Q team. So they would probably look at each other and go, well, they haven't figured out Apache yet. We've given them two weeks. So what do you guys think we should do? We got to get them to connect Apache to the secure drop servers. And from there, they'll be smart enough to get operation mocking bird. And that's our way of telling them that we're actually running the mainstream media now, and you guys need to relax. So they've had two weeks. What do you guys want to do? And Bob goes, I got an account name. They go, what do you got? Call me whatever at Biscuit Head does cocaine. They create Biscuit Head does cocaine. They go, all right, what do you want your bio? And they go, well, Put me down as ex-Army Intel and a software developer. And my passions are golf and puzzle solving. And they go, OK, well, Bob, you're up and running. And we've given you, you know, seventeen hundred previous drops. And your drop today is this. And we're going to spotlight you here in about five minutes. Get ready to start answering your DMs. And boom, they just drop. the Apache thing on four Chan or eight Chan anonymously. And then they wait a couple of minutes and then they point at it and they said, nice digging in on took you guys long enough, but you're right. Apache is mentioned in this ad for secure drop servers. And so they just drop it and let it sit knowing the Anons who have now connected the dots. That's how I would do it. I, when they said full control, it took me years to take them at that word. Cause that's a big claim. the deep state's been in full control for centuries. How do I know the good guys suddenly take the game back over? Shouldn't that also take a long time or with technology? Could it happen faster? I don't know. Keep going. I'm liking your explanations here. It's really, I got to tell you that the first time I saw that I saw Q I was in, and that was pretty close to, um, I think it was in a week, a week to two weeks, stuff started popping up on my feed and such. And it was absolutely obsession on checking it out. You know, I didn't sleep a lot because, you know, I like to look at things for the truth. And I'm not afraid to look at things that everybody else pooh-poohs, no matter what it is. You know, you hear things like even having to do with counterfeiting and coinage and such. that we should only study the real thing. I don't believe that. I believe you have to study both sides of it. And I think that's part of shutting people down. Whenever somebody, whenever I see somebody shutting us down in any way, shape or form, whether I agree or disagree with them, I'm kind of done with it because it feels so manipulative. So I mean, to look at both sides. And so of course Q comes up and a lot of people are like, Oh, this is, this is, uh, this is this, this is that. And I just didn't listen to any of it. Neither did you, we just got in and started to assess it for ourselves. And I think that was amazing. And one of the, some of the first people that I watched and doing commentary was space shot, I love that guy. I still love him. And you know, just, just super, super nice people that continue to ask questions and not necessarily give people's so much of the answers, but, I think that a good mix is out there right now. Well, I think that we're being taught and I hope I'm right. I believe we're being taught the art of a conversation again, and it's beyond just critical thinking because we have been so purposely divided from our loved ones that I have to believe they miss us as much as we miss them. And I think there's a lot of people walking around with this pebble in their shoe and this thought that won't go away, which is why can't we just talk? You know, so I'm putting a lot of my effort and some of my shows into trying to teach people the art of the conversation again. And where we really need to start is where to start. So what do we do? I'll just use my case. What could I do? to go back and speak with people in my family who would not invite me and my wife over for holidays because of their, rightfully so, their fear of shedding and the whole COVID. So imagine you want to do a big Christmas gathering and you've been watching the news and reading the papers and being online and you believe And you truly believe that every unvaxxed person is probably going to give you something that will kill you. So we are the walking time bombs. I wouldn't invite me over to Christmas either, if that's what I truly believed. What I hadn't considered was what it must have been like for them to have, let's just say, fifty family members all talking amongst themselves. Trying to figure out what to do with Scott and his crazy wife, Patty, who will not get tested, will not take the jab ever. And we won't shut up about it either. And we're trying to beg people, just look before you leap. Just do your research. Why don't you find out if they've had time to do their research? But nobody would listen to us. And so it was very painful. To have Thanksgiving come and go and Christmas come and go and Easter come and go. And everybody's there, but you. At some point in time, you have to question your own sanity because you know, you miss people, they miss you. So that was a few years ago. And in that time, I've had a lot of time to reflect and I've been very blessed to interview people and they give me perspectives. So if any of you are ever wondering what benefit you would get out of starting a podcast. It's not the podcast itself. It's like writing a book. It's never the book itself. It's who you become in the process of taking on the project. So in writing a book, I discovered it would slow me down and force me to organize my research and thinking and writing in a way that was logical and progressive and good for the reader. I needed to take them on a journey. And when you write a book, I hope if you're a sensitive person, you know that you just gave somebody a fifteen hour homework assignment. You might as well make it interesting and informative while you're doing it. Think about a podcast, not dissimilar. So every podcast is just a little book chapter. But my question is and what's consuming me is, can I tell a story in each podcast that ties into a bigger story called the podcast, which is where I am right now on my little journey? So my podcast has had fits and starts over the past four years as I've dealt with depression and other things that we go through as we grow and develop and get wisdom and get beat up and learn and get beat up and learn and get beat up and learn is that, again, it's the journey, it's not the destination. So as I've been begging people to get into podcasting, it's for two reasons. One, the universe hates a vacuum. It always has. And the entire industry and profession of mainstream media is disappearing right in front of us and it leaves And H. Ross Perot's word is going to leave a giant second sound. It's a big second sound. You see, there goes the media. They shot themselves in the foot. They deserve it. They told you lies. They know what they were doing. Told you lies. Well, now they're gone. What are we going to do? I don't know. Why don't you get off your ass and do something? Be a podcaster. You know what? People need the news. Don't give them the news. Don't tell them what to think. That's what boring people do. Don't tell them what to think. Teach them to think. You teach the people to think you're going to have a good republic. So I believe that the future of news and podcasting is no longer here's what happened and here's what we think about it. Because the journalism used to be here's what happened. Way back before Operation Mockingbird, here's what happened. This car hit this car on this corner on this date at this time. now it's well I know the drivers and I know that she drinks a lot and that guy's a businessman so she probably hit him and journalism became opinion pieces wrapped inside of the cover of journalism And then it got worse and worse over time, which is, well, we all know that that drunk lady had that good businessman. And now we think that you should get involved and help him sue her. And first of all, we didn't even know there was an accident. And secondly, we don't know who was at fault. We also don't know if there's any evidence that she was drinking. We also don't know that guy doesn't drink. But you just told me what to think and do about an accident. You forgot to tell me that happened. So once we arrived at that place in journalism, we all knew it was dead. One, don't tell me what to think. Number two, tell me what happened. Then I'll start thinking. And number three, I don't need your opinion after you told me what happened. Let me go for my own opinion on what happened. Gone. So I'm looking at this replacement of mainstream media and saying, what does the world want and need? Well, we're about to get a chance to create our own news. And I hope people wake up sooner rather than later, or they're going to miss this Overton window that will never happen again. People like me and Space Shot Mike, Space Shot Seventy-Six, Joe Rambo, Parallel Eight Media, Mark Messina, News Trees and Dave, we're all a bunch of regular people who have become obsessed with trying to figure out how the world really works and and who the good guys really are and the bad guys really are, except we have a different style. We don't say here's who to hate and why to hate them. We just simply open the closet door and we point and we go, look at that. Can we look at that together? And then we say, here's my first thoughts, but I'm not sure. Can you help me clarify my thinking or our group thinking? And I think that it's the podcasters who ask good questions and engage with the audience that are going to be the future of letting the audience determine what is news and what is false. Q proved that, that we were good at it and capable at it by letting us play the game with them. And to further illustrate my point, I watched it happen once in real life and I was lucky enough to predict it the day before it happened. True story. So when General Quast talked about transparency in our government, this was a year ago. I did something I rarely do with a guest. I waited an appropriate amount of time and then I would send him a text. Just one question. not overreaching my respectful boundaries with the gentleman but I would say I would ask him a question and I would always get an answer always invariably he would get back to me with an answer well I would ask more questions I just wanted to see where the edge of the fence was and I would always get an answer from the general and I'm like okay well this is good so either he trusts me with the information or I don't know so I just kept playing the game and this this concept of transparency stuck with me like a pebble in my shoe because in my mind it solves every problem We have with our government except one, but it would expose everything except for the last bottlenecks in my mind, which would be the people who determine what remains classified, gets classified, and what becomes public purview. And so I sent a text to the general and I said, well, looks like we would get everything we would need to know who's the snakes and who are the good people doing their jobs. What about this bottleneck? And he said, it's fewer people than you would think. And it is an issue. And so I got back and I go, yeah, but if we at least knew who they are and what sorts of things they're responsible for classifying and declassifying, would that alone put pressure on them? He said, possibly. But I realized that the one thing we as citizens are allowed to do is to demand our rights. So our friend Mary, who goes by Home Ranger Seventeen on X, is a friend of mine, just a housewife. Just a housewife. You know, there's no such justo for how old your mom is. She gave up her career as a pilot to raise her children. She was married to another pilot, so I think they can talk aviation and other smart things. She sent me this long text and she said, would you run this by General Quast? And I read it and I go, absolutely. Copy, paste, send, because it was so brilliant. And she said, I think we're living in a military version of the salt and pepper exercise. And in the salt and pepper exercise during boot camp, the GIs will notice like in the second or third week that there's no mustard and ketchup on the mess hall table anymore. These guys are wolfing down their meals and somebody's like pass the ketchup and somebody goes, there isn't any. And they all look and they go, shit, where's the ketchup? It's gone. And then a week later, they noticed that the napkins are gone. And so is the mustard and ketchup. Now they're getting a little grumbly. Well, they take away a third thing. And by the fifth week, there's no salt and pepper. Finally, the troops are pissed. And so in the military, at least in my experience, a long time ago in bootcamp in the army, we just shut up and did what we were told, or we'd still be doing pushups, waiting for somebody to come by and tell us to stop. So we would just swallow it and swallow it and swallow it until finally we couldn't swallow it anymore. And one of us would stand up and go, God bless it. I'm going to go talk to drill Sergeant Sanborn and try to get us our salt and pepper back. We'd all look and go, good luck with that idiot. And one of the troops would break ranks and do the unfathomable. And they would walk up to the table of the drill sergeants who were eating among themselves. Sergeant Sanborn private Zimmerman permission to speak sergeant. And the sergeants would look up knowingly like, took you idiots long enough. And they'd speak private. Sergeant, the troops were wondering, if it's not too much bother, Sergeant, could we please have our salt and pepper back, Sergeant? I'll look into it. Go back to eat. And then the drill sergeants would laugh and go, well, I won that bet. I picked on Stevens. You took Zimmerman. All right, you won. And the platoon would elect its own leader by whoever had the guts to take on the leadership. So the sergeants would get what they want. They don't want to elect the wrong leader. The platoon gets what they want. They now have their own little platoon sergeant, the liaison between the pawn scum and the sergeants who control everything. And really all that the privates never figured out was they got back what they already had. You already had the condiments. What, you just want them back? Why didn't you just ask? Think about Americans and our Bill of Rights, our Constitution. We've had this the whole time yet. What have we done? We have sat back and we have allowed them to take away freedom after freedom after freedom under the pretense of keep me secure. And I think it was Franklin or Jefferson. One of them said we can give them a Republic. Keeping it is going to be the hard part. And we're living through it right now. So when I, watch people like General Quast, and I know that he's got degrees and experience from here till the edge of the earth, I have discovered he's a brilliant sociologist. Among all the other things he has mastered, sociology and helping guide people's thinking patterns en masse is brilliant. He's one of the smartest people I've ever spoken with. So when I was thinking about this transparency issue, And then I combined it with his other hot topic, which are the seven pillars of prosperity. The general teaches us that there are seven key areas of living that are about to be transformed, hopefully in what's left of my lifetime, that are going to fundamentally change the way we as human beings operate, think, and interact with each other. And his areas are, and I'll do my best to get them right, is water, Which means we could have potable water anywhere in the world that we can. Good morning, Nate. I'm right in the middle of a show, but I'll tell you what, hit me up on your drive home if that's okay. I'm right in the middle of a show. Can you hit me up in your drive home? Love you. Thanks. Bye. And so. He talks about water. One of his companies, I believe, is Genesis. They're in the business of extracting potable water from desert air and giving it to our troops so we can create drinking water from anything and everywhere we want with new technologies. He talked about breakthroughs in energy. And then I start thinking about what would free energy do for mankind? And he was talking about small, portable nuclear devices that could power entire households. Then I got thinking we could live anywhere on the planet we would want. Why do I have to live next to the Great Lakes? I could live in the Mojave Desert, have water, have energy, have an internet connection, have food, and have everything. He talked about breakthroughs in transportation. Anywhere on the planet in less than an hour safely, affordably. Wow. So I've got breakfast in Ohio and lunch in Paris and dinner in Los Angeles. That's pretty cool. What does that do for my ability to grow a business or relationships? Then he went into the areas of finance and food, information, shelter, and how we live in our homes, and lastly, healthcare. And he talks about emerging technologies because that's plausible deniability. Remember, he built Space Force. If anybody knows about emerging technologies anywhere on this planet, it would be Steve Quast. So I chewed on those technologies for a while and I sent him a picture of Maslow's hierarchy of human needs. And I grayed out the bottom two rungs with a little message and it just said, technologies, replace these? He said, pretty much. And the lowest rungs on Maslow's pyramid of hierarchy of human needs are food, water, shelter, clothing, heat, Procreation, that's what people think about at first. If you're not warm, you think about heat. If you're hungry, you think about food at the exclusion of God and relationships and self-actualization, self-fulfillment. So I said, these technologies would pretty much free us up of any thought worrying about money, career, food, shelter, rent, this invisible cage we've been living in our whole lives. Almost all of our mental Ram is burnt up on things like rent and career and money, because we have to keep chasing the rabbit, the invisible rabbit they've put in front of us. And it's all by design. All of it. All by design. It's all about control and manipulation. So, Don, I'm going to ask you a question I've been asking all my anon friends. Do you remember Q saying something along the lines of you people have never known what it's like to truly be free? Absolutely. They never said that. Every single person I know, we would bet our house that That keyword Trump said, you've never known what it's like to truly be free. We have no idea. And we all remember it. I remember, you know, that's like that, that, um, the Mandela effect stuff, you know, I really, okay. This is my actual opinion of it. Okay. I actually think that we did remember it and all of a sudden things were removed to get us to question our perceptions. That may be because we've looked everywhere for that and we can't find it. I'm going to tell you, I came to this conclusion a while back because I was looking at all the Mandela effect things and I'm like, I remember seeing this. And so, I mean, I absolutely remember seeing this. And then I found some evidence on some of the things that were within the, you know, that would have been, you know, termed the Mandela effect. And I'm like, they're lying. They're ever living behinds. They're controlling that narrative because I remember it. Everybody else remembers it. They're trying to get us to question our perceptions. That Mandela effect is bullshit. And I'm completely of that opinion that it is bullshit and it's an op. Well, an op doesn't necessarily equate to bullshit. Not all ops are bad. I'm not saying it's bad. I'm just saying I'm not buying it at face value, just like everything else. It's like even something as simple as that. I look at that Mandela effect and I'm like, no, I know my own mind and what I saw. And it's like, you're not going to tell me it wasn't that way and expect me to group think on, oh, I must have made a mistake. When I can tell you, I remember it. so what we are learning is a new way is a new way to think which is tiresome but valuable so that's where I get tied up with this so after a while I sit there and I listen to the propaganda on both sides because everybody's lying right now the good guys are lying bad guys lying everybody's lying right now because good guys aren't gonna gonna you know announce what they're doing because in the bad guys would all know this is like that old cartoon book spy versus spy Yeah, that's what I see. So for me, it's like, I don't believe anyone at any point in time about anything that comes out of their mouth. So I listen and I'll listen to what anybody says. But if there's any truth in it or not, you've got neuro-linguistic programming going on from everybody on the planet that's out there. And so it's like, I just listen and say, well, well, well, that was a wisdom from my grandfather. Well, well, well, where are these weaponized lies from hell coming from now? And what is the, why are they doing this? I keep asking myself why. Why are they doing this? Because, and to the credit of the good guys, they're going to use every weapon that the bad guys have used for decades. Because it works. And so, like, if the bad guys use certain things to build the prison of the mind, you back out of it by using the techniques to destroy those bars that are around them. Right, but you have to get people to unlearn. Which for a fifty, sixty, seventy year old is the most difficult thing to do. That's why you and I don't sit down and pick up piano as easily as a six year old, because we have to unlearn our meaning of reading and notes and things of that nature. So they say, but I think we can. I think that's also another thing that's up for discussion. I, you know, I don't I don't believe anything that they've told us, even our potential. in our minds, the things that they've told us we can't do. You know, it's like, like, you know, I'm, I'm, I'm six years old. I used to do power lifting and they say that you lose strength. You lose all of this. I don't believe that for a minute. I'm still six years old and I can outwork a twenty-year-old for on most cases. So that's even part of the programming. You know, if you, if we are literally, if we're connected to God, Our limitations are unlimited, including healing. I mean, Jesus could walk through walls and he said we could do anything he does or greater. Then why aren't we believing the source instead of believing the stuff that people are telling us who are controlling the lies on both sides? But I suppose that comes from having a great deal of orneriness and intestinal fortitude to call it out for, I'm not believing any of this. I'm going to do a Jen Psaki, and I will circle back to the transparency we were promised and given a test. Okay. And I called it a day before it happened by pure luck, but it happened. But one of the main lessons we're getting, in my opinion, about or through this entire Great Awakening is the art of critical thinking and going to a level two or level three thinking. So before Q, I had a tendency to look at something in front of me and go, well, that's good. Well, maybe I should look and say, well, maybe that's bad. Right. I would say, okay, well, maybe it's white or maybe it's black. It's this or it's that. That's lazy thinking. What Q has done is taught me the art of saying, well, if it's more than one issue, you can take enough sheets of a post-it note. And if you put them together, you get a pattern, right? Even because it's not just A or B, there's a side to it. Sometimes the side of the issue is so small, it's razor thin and you forget that it's three D and not two D, right? So what I've learned to do is to take an issue and I'll look at whatever I see first and I go, well, okay, that's what you're telling me. What does that look like? What does that look like? What does that look like? And if what you're telling me is a psyop, maybe I need to turn it and say, okay, it's shades of gray, but now I see the game you're playing. You only gave me half the truth and half of this, but I still see the overall message. But now I can get rid of this part of my thinking, keep this part of my thinking, and then go try to find things that now I know that that is bad. And that is good. But you tried to sell it to me with the same logo and the same tagline. But now I can see through the rest of the story. This is why we need to work in hives. Because a lot of the things that I see that I get excited about aren't true. They're true from my perspective at that point in time. But what I really want you to do, because my ego has been shattered, I'm more interested in the truth than I am in being right. It's a trade I'll make all day long that I may not have made ten years ago, but I'm a different person because they tore me down and rebuilt me. So this gets back to General Quast and his promise of transparency. So I interviewed him a year ago, so I've been kind of holding my breath and I've been texting him and learning things about these seven pillars of prosperity and how they may, if we go back to the hierarchy of human needs, if We are no longer because of new technologies burning up our mental RAM and our thought processes all day long about I got to make rent. I got to pay the mortgage. Everything's getting more expensive. I've got to take a second job. I got to change my company. I got to do something which is survival instinct. those lower two rungs of five rungs of the pyramid, what are the top three rungs? So if you've freed up my mental ram of those lower two rungs, which are food, sex, water, shelter, clothing, career, finance, money, if that's out of my mental ram, what does that leave? Two of the last three Q drops ended with the same word, ascensions. So if you take a hot air balloon and you picture those four ropes coming out of the, out of the basket with sandbags, that holds that air hot air balloon down. And all they do is let go of the ropes and the sandbags. And it begins ascending because what's inside is lighter than the air around it. I believe that what's inside of us, sovereign beings as God and energy and love and wisdom, all the things that have been suppressed, by keeping us chasing the uncatchable, which is security, happiness, finance, wealth, All the things we thought would make us comfortable and happy and free up our mind to go pursue more worthy endeavors. Well, the more money you earn and the more you save, the more you start mothering that money. Now you want to keep what you've earned. That becomes a whole other thought process that burns us up from what? Ascending. From pursuing self-fulfillment, self-actualization, relationships, love, harmony. now q said expand your thinking I'm starting to expand my thinking because of my interviews so I contacted the general and I go wait a second we all live on top of each other because of the industrial revolution by and large so everybody congregated around the great lakes that's why you have pittsburgh and cleveland and detroit just for shipping and energy because that's where they would string all the lights and generators and whatnot But with this technology you described, we could live anywhere, couldn't we? He said, yes. And I go, well, wouldn't it make sense that we just build little communes of like-minded people who want to educate our children the same way with the same values, the same beliefs, getting the same educations and whatever they're interested in. If that kid was built to be a scientist, he's going to be a great scientist. And this one, a great architect or whatever that would be. But wouldn't that give us the freedom of choice of education, geography, food, shelter, clothing, all of it? And he goes, you just described freedom. Live anywhere and not chase money and debt. What would you do with your day? What would you do with your life? Do you know what most people would do? They would go to work, but they'd be happy. Cause they're choosing to go serve someone else. So in my mind, I believe what is coming is a future where I may go spend the day consulting with a small business and helping them be better owners or better employers, or maybe work with their staff and help them be better people. And then I drive home and I look up and somebody mowed my lawn. That's cool. Somebody likes mowing lawns and saw mine needed it. Thank you. Somebody's painting my house. And the next day I wake up happy because I get to go in my car and I get to go help somebody doing something I love doing and I'm great at doing. So what would transparency do for this? I try to keep you to an hour. So I'll wrap up with this. No, you can keep going because on December, I'm out for a walk. December, last year elections over waiting for the inaugural address. I'm out for a walk with my wife and my friend, my light bulb goes on and I text general cost. And I said, this transparency you spoke of last spring, if we get this when Trump takes office, would this create the world's largest game of treasure hunt? And all the Anons who've been trained to dig and follow the money, could we maybe get rewarded for finding and returning our own diamonds in government corruption? And his response was short and beautiful. That's funny. Elon thinks like you do. At the time, it was Elon and Vivek Ramaswamy who led up Doge, remember? And we were all excited that these two rock stars were going to go find all the government corruption. And I thought, well, shit, the Anons will be left on the sideline. Why wouldn't we be part of that? You trained us to dig and follow the money. And man, can we dig and follow the money? So I thought, well, he says, that's funny. Elon thinks like you do. So maybe we're going to get to go find the money and maybe get a little percentage of that. But now you've created a free workforce who keeps the government responsible for all of our tax dollars. The next day, CR bill drops publicly. Fifteen hundred and forty seven pages of pork barrel and misdirection and bullshit. Well, they dropped it publicly and guess what happened? Anand swarmed and they used tools like artificial intelligence. And we stripped that thing down from fifteen hundred pages to one hundred and sixteen in one day. And we said, that's what's in that damn thing. The next day, Vivek tweets out and he said, imagine if transparency like this were brought to all future House bills. He said digital transparency was what he typed. Imagine if digital transparency was brought to all future House bills. Might this restore trust in our government? Screen grabbed it, texted it to the general. This time I had no question and no comment because we had just texted the day before. And all he said was exactly more good to come. So the Anons got a live test to see what would happen if they just quietly dropped a public bill that was hiding inside the Congress. And when they gave it to us, we destroyed it. And we exposed it. And then we knew what we were voting on. So If you guys don't think that you're about to make a difference in your own government, you better wake up and get involved and do exactly what General Mike Flynn begged you to do. Remember, that was the guy that for the first year and a half after Q started dropping, it was Mike Flynn who signed every autograph where we go one, we go all. And he was the one who says we have an army of digital soldiers. We didn't tell them to say these things and do these things. And Q kept pointing at General Michael Flynn as being a patriot. He knows where all the bodies are buried. And Barack Obama was scared shitless of the guy. And when Trump took office during the transition, Obama said, there's only two guys you got to watch out for, Kim Jong-un and Mike Flynn. Well, Mike Flynn, after a couple of years of Q dropping, all of a sudden denies Q completely, never signs another autograph with WWG one WGA. And he stops talking about Q. And in fact, he says to the end, stop talking about Q. For heaven's sakes, don't you have anything better to do? Get off your butts and do something locally. Go get elected. Get somebody else elected. Take over your school boards. Start learning. Read your Constitution. Read your Bill of Rights. Take the oath. Become part of the solution to this problem. Get involved. Well, we did. We took him up on his advice. So I helped my buddy money get elected to the he's my local six ward councilman here in town. My buddy Patrick from the gym got on the school board and got two of his buddies on with him and flip that to conservative and transparent. And it's working. So you go back to this last October, November. And what does Michael Flynn do? He tweets out something about Well, guess it's time I turned my army of digital soldiers over to Elon Musk. And that's all he said was, I'm just turning my army over to somebody else. And immediately Elon tweets out, a meme of QNN News Network with this Pepe the Frog on it being the podcaster with a picture of John Brennan going, no friend of ours, F-R-E-N. It was a Q, straight Q-com telling the general, I've got your army. I got it from here. You need to go back to work. Have a nice day. Flynn responds publicly on Twitter with a GIF of the guy eating the bag of popcorn like this. Flynn was telling the Anons, we are watching a movie. I'm going to go watch the movie with you guys, but don't look for me sitting next to you in the theater. I'm going back to work. And I suspect Mike Flynn not only went back to work, I suspect he never stopped working. And I think he got a lot done in between his stops on the reawakened tour and the promotion of the Flynn movie. He strikes me as the kind of guy who just multitasks and does a lot very quietly. So I've been watching around kind of guy, not really. And I think he might have an ax to grind on what these people did to his career, his reputation, his family, his children, his grandchildren. and his beloved constitution in his country that he has spent his whole life defending in body, mind, and spirit. I think he has an ax to grind and I pray to God he gets a chance to punch back. That's fantastic, Scott. I love this. What a great interview. Nailed it right on the top of the hour. You can cut me loose now. That was absolutely fantastic. Why don't you come back on again? Because I've got all kinds of questions for you. And, you know, just talking about real stuff, you know. We're living right in the middle of it. Don't miss a minute. And don't waste your time trying to wake up people around you. Keep waking yourself up. They'll wake up when it's time their way. Q has this. I'm watching it roll out and everybody's going to wake up slowly and gently. And it can't be ripping off the bandaid as much as we would want. Twenty perp walks tomorrow. It would open up conversations you don't want to have because you're not ready yet. But keep prepping yourself. Keep learning. Keep digging. Please keep praying for God to strip your ego because it only stands for edging God out and humble yourself and be willing to be wrong and open up every conversation with, I'm sorry, I was wrong about most things. Can we talk? Because I was wrong about most things. Really? I was right about the ones that matter. What were the biggest things that you think that you were wrong about? The National Guard is going to be deployed in major cities. Watch for that. Hillary is going to be arrested. Watch for that. She'll be detained, but it'll look like she's going to be arrested. Let's watch for that. You know, all the early Q drops that we got excited about that we thought we were going to get to watch play out as Donald Trump was going to drain the swamp. What we figured out in hindsight was it may have been done, and it was probably done right in front of us, but in a way we didn't notice. So it is entirely possible that a lot of bad people were arrested and put in front of tribunals and then given their marching orders. If they were the people who were compromised, they were probably hugged, given back pay. Of course, we seized all the ill-gotten gains they were given. But I'm sure they got a fresh start and I'm sure they got an accommodation for all the hell they've lived through for the past. And let's say I'll just say, what if Chuck Schumer and Pelosi are decent people who had to work for your fifty years every day dreading? going into work because they had to serve a puppet master who was going to make them vote against their constituents' own interests, vote against the Constitution they themselves swore to uphold. But yet the threat of what was coming if they didn't toe the line was way worse than treason. Let that sink in. These people knowingly did things that would have gotten them killed, and yet they still did them. These are the things I have to consider when I catch myself passing judgment on people I don't really know. So I have curbed my emotions about people like Pelosi and Schumer and Waters and Schiff and all the people that I suspect may have been doing horrible things, but I'm at least willing to give them the benefit of the doubt until it all comes out, all of it. And then I'll let God pass judgment. That's not my job. One of the things related to what you just said is that I've seen that in people. It's like they are fearful. And I've asked it over and over. What are they so afraid of? Because the people that I've seen in those positions, they're afraid. A lot of them, that's their dominant spirit that they carry is a spirit of fear. So what is it that they fear? that it's an irrational amount of fear. Almost all fear is irrational. But I mean, it's an irrational over the top. It's an unspoken. It's not a normal. You know, you see people out there that have fear. They're afraid of specific things. These people are afraid to their core. And it's like, what is it that has them in this state of mind that, And I've never gotten an answer for exactly what it is that has that kind of control over them. Well, why don't we walk in their shoes for a minute? And I'll just tell you what I'm guessing my family is living in fear about. They look at me and I'm in my sixties and they've known me forever. And they'd look at me and they think, God, he used to be so smart. He used to be so grounded. He was a successful businessman and he did a lot of good things. What, where did Scott go? We lost Scott. They lost the version of me that they loved. I was boring and predictable. I would talk about the weather and sports and things that didn't matter. And I don't have those conversations anymore. So their fear is they're losing people around them that they love and they don't know how to get them back. They might think I'm crazy. That's not good. Because if I felt that about them, I'd be living in fear and a sense of loss and grief, which is the depression I went through when you met me. And you were there when I gave this speech on this flag. And sadly, tomorrow, my entire show is going to be about that speech, that flag, and Beth Schweier, who painted that, who just passed on two days ago. But when you met me, Don, you'll remember I was in complete depression. When I was supposed to go give an upbeat speech on how to red pill people based on different personality types, which never happened. I gave a completely different speech, which was given to me that morning. And anyways, so yeah, I understand depression. I understand a fear of loss and an actual sense of loss. And so I have a lot of empathy for what my loved ones are still going through because they still feel that they've lost people like me to something they don't know what it is. They think I'm in a cult and I'm brainwashed. Yet when I speak to them, I sound calm and logical and reasoned. And I still have a lot of belief and conviction in what I'm learning. And all I'm asking them to do is when you're ready, have a look and I'll answer your questions. But Until you have those questions, I'm going to go back and I'm going to keep learning. And if you're putting in the same amount of hours I am, then we can talk. And until then, you might want to ask me what I'm learning and why I'm twenty thousand hours into one topic over the last eight years. Well, I know it's been a rough go for you for quite a while, too, and that was such a precious time when we met and I'll never forget. I'll never forget meeting you. And we'll have to talk about that at another time. If you're available tomorrow at five o'clock by some miracle, I'm going to have a handful of people who were there. Come on and share stories. So. Yeah, I'd love to. I'd love to do that. That would be way fun. So I really appreciate talking with you, Scott, so much. And, you know, God bless you and everything you do. And Patty, I mean, you guys are just wonderful friends and, and everything you do to knit the communities together and, be there as a, as pop a beer there, you know, to everybody and really caring about how they feel as well as, I don't know, making sure that people don't feel alone. And I think it's just such a beautiful skillset you have and just love you to pieces and always look forward to when I can come on the Friday night calls and such, you know, I always look forward to sitting in on that saying hi to everybody. And, and honestly, you know, we were just so everybody knows we were, And my first research group beer was there. And so like when the very, very, at the very beginning on Twitter, we were, we were in there and we were, we started out by one specific account. And from that, it went into like a research group and it went, it morphed a little bit, but you were there right from the beginning. And I was too. And the funny thing was, is when we, when we met Scott, didn't realize. that we were in that same group because I never, never told what my, what my Twitter handle was. That's true. And, and it was funny. So I was actually, and I've told people this, I was actually in the Q posts and I tagged Scott on it and he never realized that that I had done that and tell Threadfest, which was hilarious. So my son was there and he's laughing to this day. He said, you out anon the anons. And I'm like, well, maybe I was part of them from the beginning. So it was really, really fun. So, well, thank you so much for coming on. I want John again, maybe next week we can schedule another time. We've got a lot of good comments. from people that are listening to this. And I think it's a good encouragement to everybody that we still don't know what's going on. And I've been saying that too. The good guys, they're lying their ever-living tails off. The bad guys, they're lying their tails off. If you ever see me get frustrated, it's because I'm one of these people, it's just like, all right everybody out of the pool I'm sick of the come on and stop lying let's just put it all out there and let the chips fall where they may and and just go forward and you know but I'm a horse trainer and horse trainers uh like the truth savagely and you don't lie to a horse you don't lie to horse trainer because we see right through you and doesn't work so well so but but at any rate thanks for coming on today scott love you to pieces And I'm going to go to a quick break right now. And then I'm going to bring my next guest in, Brian. And we're going to talk about D-A-I-M. And I'm going to let him say his last name because I don't want to butcher it because I'm sure I'm going to do that. So let's I'll have my next guest. We're going to be talking about all sorts of things and questioning our reality. Always like I always said, question everything. I'll be right back in about one minute. Good morning and welcome to the second hour of Brandenburg News Network. I am Donna Brandenburg. It is the tenth day of April, twenty twenty five. And welcome to our show. And we're going to jump right into my second hour here with Brian. And Brian, say your last name for me, please. Corshane. Corshane. The core of an apple and the name Shane. Thanks for having me on, Donna. That makes it easier for me. Thank you. You know, I've got a funny story about meeting Brian. OK, so we met at Mar-a-Lago. And he comes right up to me and he says, well, nobody said hi to me today. And we start talking. And I'm like, what? Nobody's saying hi to you? I mean, I'm kind of infectiously friendly. I talk to everybody. So we had a nice conversation. And you talked about your company that you started up. And I'm really glad that I'm able to have you on today. Now, I'm not really versed in what you do. And so I'm going to let you talk about it. and tell everybody what's going on. Yeah. And so what we'll do today is we'll question why we need bitcoin I think it follows the beat of your show it'll be a great like kind of education segment and then some things to really give people um something to look and research on their own that can help benefit their lives right and and talk about what's going on in america and with bitcoin and so yeah when I met you at mar-a-lago um there's a few hundred people there very nice event the weather was perfect They had a great outside setup for that charity event, Wax to Riches, that was there. And yeah, I was surprised. It wasn't too much interaction when I walked in the grand ballroom there. You had your big smile. You welcomed me. You said hi. You introduced yourself. And what I was even more impressed by is you had the determination to meet as many people as you could that night. get their contact and make a personal connection. And you totally did. So thanks for having me on. And I'm looking forward to chatting about Bitcoin. And I think to come out the gate is maybe to ask you, what do you know about Bitcoin? Maybe one of its great attributes. And if not, I'm going to share with you a little bit about that. And then we'll dive a little deeper. Well, you know what? I think right now our whole monetary system is completely wrong. I mean, every single thing about the way that we have had to do any commerce or anything. It's just backwards. So I'm open to the changes. However, I see some downsides in a lot of it. And I've gone through some of the failings that I see that are problems we're going to have to come over. But I am completely done with fiat currencies. They've done everything has been completely based on our belief system, not on a tangible asset. And I have some issues with that. And then I also have some issues with, you know, how the banks can just come in and take whatever they want to do. And you've got inflation. You've got all these things that we have no control over anything in our monetary system. And because we have no tangible assets there other than what we believe in the dollar or what we believe in things, somebody else is in charge of what we have worked for. Now it comes down to taxes, the same thing. We do not have one legal lawful tax that's happening out there. It's all tied into the money. Scott said it best. You know, I come from the non-world. Follow the money and you'll find out everything you need to know. I have some questions about Bitcoin and all of that and how sustainable it is for the long run. and where the deficits are in the system being able to work. When it first came out, the purity of it, of having something that was to actually have a tradable has kind of gone over into speculation, which is a concern for me. But I think that we're working through the difficulties that come with bringing a new monetary system online, which is happening. You can't look at the failings or everything that's going on. I do think that we're going to be looking at a new way to trade and trade our time, trade our efforts and such because that's what money is. So I'm open to everything. I know relatively little about it. You know, it's like I've always said to people, you really want a great investment, buy like a semi-full of toilet paper because during the toilet paper nonsense that went on, you know, That's the first thing people are going to lose their minds over. Yeah. And so some things that you said that really stood out to me was, you know, this disbelief in the financial system. Bitcoin was created in two thousand and eight on the back of the financial crisis. And people may remember then if you went to a bank and you tried to get out cash, you couldn't. The doors were locked in front. And so the creator, a single person or a group of people that went by Satoshi Nakamoto created this new money system for the people separate from the banks, has not been held by the banks. It's held by us individuals. And like you were saying earlier, the devaluing of the dollar Every piece of paper, the one dollar bill has a one on it. A hundred dollar bill just has a hundred on it. We believe in that and we trust it to be true. What the problem is, is that over the last five to six years, the dollar's devalued by thirty three percent. You're purchasing power. So not only do you have inflation, but your dollar gets you less. And if you look at Bitcoin over the same time period, its return is over a thousand percent. OK, yes, there's some volatility to it and speculation side. What's really important to know is that this new money system and digital asset that's out there that people can invest in is the only investable asset that has a fixed supply. There's twenty one million units of Bitcoin. That's all there will ever be. It trades twenty four, seven, three hundred and sixty five around the world, independent of the banks and the government that makes it for the people. And if you don't have a full one unit of Bitcoin, which today is trading about eighty two thousand, you can get Satoshi's a fraction of one if you want to use it for payments. And so that's the number one thing we want people to understand is Bitcoin is that rare coveted item that people want to hold in half because it's scarce. But yet it has tradable value should they want to use it. Well, tell me about what, that's a great explanation. Tell me about what you've done and about your company and just give me the particulars on it. I mean, pretend I'm five years old and I know nothing. And so I think that's a good place to start. It's actually the same time I started with my son. He has like a little business where he sells some of his old stuff and we gave him a Bitcoin wallet address to accept Payment in Bitcoin should somebody want to buy something from him and we're still waiting to maybe do a little piece of artwork for him or one of his toys. But yeah, so he's he's heard me since I built this business starting in two thousand and seventeen. And the premise around building Dame Daim is. People at that time, in two thousand seventeen, were using platforms like Coinbase where they were not given any help. You log in, you connect your bank account, you send some money there and then you're buying Bitcoin, Ethereum, maybe some other stuff, Litecoin. There's a whole mess of things going on and people were losing their money. There was no one to give them sound advice and the industry didn't have regulations requiring any kind of advice. And at that time, I was working in New York on Wall Street. I was an options trader. I started off my career there actually in the pit in two thousand and ten. And I worked at different broker dealers and banks doing options sales trading with institutions. But I came across Bitcoin in early two thousand and fourteen and first started to accumulate later that year. And then some people knew that I had a position in it. And then in two thousand seventeen, it started coming to me when Bitcoin was trading just a thousand dollars saying, hey, I want to invest in this, but I want to put more than ten thousand dollars in. I don't want to put it on my phone. I want to put something meaningful to work, six figures, maybe half a million. But I need some accountability. I need help. So I decided to leave the firm that I was working at then. We moved to California, to Newport Beach, Orange County, the last Republican county that was in California at the time, because regulations were actually tough there. And I said, if I could get this business going there, just like New York City, and some more space for my son, who was just born at the time. This will be a challenge, but it's going to help people. So we decided to launch a registered investment advisor, just like an Edward Jones advisor down the street in middle America that helps you with your stocks and bonds portfolio, but to do it specifically for crypto. And so it wasn't easy to get that done. The regulators, we had these interviews and meetings and they took us down this rabbit hole of education really with them, a lot of risk disclosures. And it actually came to May of two thousand and eighteen where they said, you know what, we want to pause. We don't want to license this business to offer people help. That was a challenge because now I had more people asking me for help because the price of Bitcoin had actually started to come down from its prior high in two thousand and seventeen. It was now trading around thirteen thousand was going down to ten thousand at the time. And so what I went back to them was I went back to them with this. I said, look, I have the series sixty five, which I can give advice as a stock advisor. I have the series four, which is an options principle. I had the series twenty four, which is a compliance officer basically for a securities firm. And I've been in this since October two thousand and fourteen. You have to let me launch this business so I can help people and keep them from investing in ICOs, initial coin offerings that are basically just fraudulent. And so May thirty first, two thousand and eighteen, the next day after that meeting, we got the license and we began helping individuals invest primarily in Bitcoin in the space through all types of accounts, a corporate account, brokerage account, even things like a Roth IRA. And so now coming up on seven years next month, that's what we've been doing and helping many, many individuals invest in the space securely, comfortably so they can sleep at night, yet build a diversification position for their portfolio and better save for retirement. That sounds like a really interesting process. and what what kind of clients are coming to you right now and what are some of the questions they're at what what are most of the questions are the that that you get asked yep and so we do see a wide range of people that want our services uh everything from guys that work in construction all the way to billionaires in their family offices uh we are a bit selective in who we take for clients it's got to work for for both parties in the way that we manage the assets for them And so the number one question we get most recently is, look, where do you think Bitcoin is going in the one to five year? Maybe where's it going to be in twenty thirty? And obviously I can't give advice. There's a lot of people out there that say, you know, Cathie Wood says Bitcoin is going to be at a million bucks in the year twenty thirty. But what I can show them is like, let's look at Bitcoin over its history the past sixteen years. Yes, there was extreme accelerated growth in the beginning. when it was a penny, twenty-five cents, a dollar, a thousand, fifteen thousand, right? But this asset, because of its scarce nature and fixed supply, is good to have a multiple that's very attractive. So in the past six years, Bitcoin's annualized return is about forty percent. So every two years, you know, every two and a half years, your money is doubling in it. And so even if it comes down, let's say it does a thirty percent annualized return, it's still much better than having a portion of your money solely in the stock market. Let's call it the S&P five hundred, which is good for like a nine to ten percent return. And so this is really where we go with the education side of like saying, hey, you have this question. This is what makes sense for your portfolio. You know, not a hundred percent of all your assets, maybe something like seven percent. And then this is where we think it's going and we're going to help you down that journey. And then we're going to set up protections if you want it in a trust or you want to have beneficiaries. tax reporting as we know the number one thing our government really wants to do is collect taxes and so we help we make sure that our clients do that appropriately we want to prevent them from having an audit but we want to do everything by the book to make sure that everything is sound and they're building good wealth for the future what um when people buy when people buy with with any of the cryptos what uh what percentage of businesses are accepting them or entities out there What's really interesting is we are a Bitcoin business too. We do keep some Bitcoin on our company treasury. We do do our feed through Bitcoin because that's what our clients hold on the balance sheet. What I've seen actually has been really interesting is on the checkout of like consumer retail platforms, especially through like Strike and some even PayPal stuff. there's a little in the bottom, you can pick your credit card, right? And you could actually pick a firm. A firm is another company out there where you could do like installment payments. Say you have a hundred dollars in close, you know, you're going to do twenty five bucks a month for four months and you do it through a firm. And we just started to notice right below that pay with crypto and you can click that button and you can pick Bitcoin, Ethereum and pay with those. So it's becoming more prevalent in the background for people to use. Now, I do have to say, I don't suggest our clients or even holders out there use something like Bitcoin as a payment method. Because of its price appreciation and its scarcity, more people are looking to hold and accumulate units of Bitcoin than they are to dispose of them. What do I really mean by this? What we see from clients more nowadays, especially clients that have sold real estate land, where let's say they have a thousand acres in Texas, and that's how they talk about it with their friends and colleagues. They say, I want to have ten units of Bitcoin. It's not about the price. It's about building the position. They want to say, I have a hundred units of Bitcoin or they want to say I want one unit one unit of bitcoin for each one of my kids or grandkids even a generational skip trust we've set up for people to have a unit flow down to and so yeah we don't suggest that and when it comes down to paying with crypto we think things like stable coins and that's why there's so much regulation and talk about stable coins it's because our government understands that it's actually going to be an easy way for them to uh tax when stable coins are used Okay. Can you explain that? Yes. Okay. Stable coins. It's very simple. If you have, we'll go back to Bitcoin. Bitcoin moves in value. One unit of Bitcoin is about eighty two thousand dollars today. Okay. A stable coin is simply a cryptocurrency also on the blockchain, but it trades at a dollar. It doesn't move. It stays one to one, just like the US dollar. So what you could do is if you sell a little bit of your Bitcoin, OK, let's say you sell one percent, you generate eight hundred and twenty dollars. It can go into a stable coin. This allows you to avoid using your bank. So you can make payments directly to your neighbor, just like Zelle. You could just stable coin payment to somebody out of your cryptocurrencies. You're self-banking yourself. Zelle is a product of the banks, right? It's a major, this thing is growing at an astronomical rate, the amount of selling that's going on, Venmo, but these are controlled by like very big parties behind the background. Bitcoin is not controlled. Your Bitcoin is under our control. And so you can sell some of your Bitcoin, put it into a stable coin and then use that as payment. Bitcoin network has not gone down. It has not been hacked. There's been nothing. It's an immutable ledger. It is perfect. That's really interesting. So like I said, I'm like a five-year-old in this because I really have kind of avoided the whole subject because it's just not something that I've gotten into. Not necessarily that's a bad thing. No, not at all. Education is the key. You don't have to be a believer by the end of this pod that we're on now, but at least you'll know more. I think that's the way a lot of people are, that they look at it. And for me, I like tangibles. You know, and by say tangibles, you know, I don't even like I hate money. I really do hate money, you know, because it's for me, it's a lot of people get real stupid in the money when the money comes around. But, you know, we all have to have money to live on and survive and retire. So it's part of our lives and things that we that we do need to address as responsible adults. So what else? What's that? What about gold? Yeah, that's another thing that I'm interested in that I think is really interesting. But once again, if we were ever to face a crisis and there was a shutdown, what's the gold going to buy you at that point in time? So, I mean, there's so many ways to look at this to plan for our future and such. But I like things I can touch. Yeah. So with gold, the problem is if you have a full gold bar, How are you going to trade somebody for meat or what it is? We actually see quite a bit of doomsday preppers open accounts with us to help for access. If things go down, all we need is electricity to get them their Bitcoin. That's all we need. And so even Bitcoin can be sent by Morse code, which is actually really crazy. It would take a while to do it, but that's the backing of the system. And so for many people, they have one investment case for Bitcoin. It is a better digital gold because of its fixed supply. See, because gold had such a run up at the end of like last year, the last six months, the miners are mining more gold to feed that bigger margin. It inflates three to four percent a year, maybe a little bit higher in the past six months because the price is so high. Bitcoin cannot be inflated. So really, it's just a diverse. We like to say, look, it's a diversifier for you. And I think that's a really smart way to approach it, is that there's never a good idea to put all your eggs in one basket. So if I were going to come to you as an investor and you were to sell me on what we should do right now as a first-time investor in any cryptos, because I've never invested in crypto, So what would you say to me to give me some good counsel? Or how do you approach meeting with someone to find out what their goals are and what's realistic and what's not? Right. So the number one thing is a little bit of education on Bitcoin. Again, the number one attribute is its fixed supply, twenty one million units. Anything anybody takes away from today? Twenty one million units. That is all there will ever be. Make sure they understand that and then understand that when you start a cryptocurrency or a digital asset portfolio, that Bitcoin should really be the cornerstone. It is so different than the rest of the other cryptocurrency crypto tokens that are out there. And it's worth maybe explaining that like I would to someone I just meet at a restaurant. So I would like to know that because when all of these other cryptos started popping up, I'm like, this is like a free for all. That was what it looked like from somebody on the outside. Distraction. It was a distraction. And I'm like, how is this? What are the safeguards? Number one. And it's so convoluted right now that I kind of like that's that's honestly why I kind of push the whole issue off to the side because and I assume that it was done that way by design. to take away from something that was honestly legitimate. So what's the difference? Can you explain that to us? Yes. So again, Bitcoin, the fixed supply, twenty one million units, the creator removed and it's rare. it has the immutable longest standing record track record in blockchain and it's the largest market cap over half over fifty percent of all the other cryptos combined now what are the other ones out there what is the distracting stuff the other end of the spectrum the things to avoid um the Hawk to a girl was kind of infamous again because somebody got with her and said, let's create a meme token of your fame and what you are. And that didn't go well because there's really no value behind that name, that image, that thing trading besides pure speculation. Now, why it's a cryptocurrency is because it operates on the blockchain. It could either be Ethereum based or it could be Solana based. There's different virtual computers out there. That's the other attribute of the blockchain. That's getting pretty deep. And maybe we'll touch on that at the end. But basically something like a meme coin. which is just an image of something that people are rallying behind for the time being can be out there and have some kind of dollar intrinsic value where they're hoping for people to either put new dollars into the crypto system to buy that meme coin, or they're hoping that they sell maybe Bitcoin, sell Ethereum to buy that meme coin. The other issue is, is that the amount of meme coins associated with that one meme possibly change. It could be a billion coins. It could be two billion. It could be ten billion. I saw that when it was started up, too. And that was another reason why I'm like, this is a free for all. Exactly. And there was no controls on it. And it seemed like, where do you even land on something like this? And then the other issue is, actually, there's two. One in the background is the people who have created it on the blockchains, have controls in the background. They literally have the strings where they can see the activity, they can sell some to retail investors who don't know what they're doing and make a big wad of money. And then they're also telling her to go out there and talk about it, to basically chum the waters to drive the value while they sell into the retail and eventually drive it down to nothing, That's a big part of our job is explaining to clients like, hey, you want this to last and grow. Don't be distracted because you see a meme coin come out and within two weeks, it did a thousand X what Bitcoin's taken to do, you know, over the course of six years, seven years, right? Like it's a huge, there's a huge difference there. And people sometimes want to play catch up. Like, let me invest in something that's going to go up faster. And that's just the wrong approach. So, Bitcoin has a great return. It has higher volatility than the stock market, but you need, you have to understand it comes down a little bit in order to go way up. It's part of it, but it's also not meant to be a hundred percent of your portfolio. The right amount is the right way. Let's protect the investment. Let's let it grow the right way. Let's not take these other wild shots. That's the education and what we start with people to meet right there at lunch. There you go. I love that. I'm sitting here reading some of the comments here and, uh, trying to figure out which ones are pertinent to ask you right now, because I think there's a lot of confusion out there on what people have seen. Here was one was the exact words were explaining the money changing hands on the street with people sans tech, not explaining it. I don't, I'm not quite sure what the question is there, but people are still, I think people are still kind of confused on it. So money changing hands on the street like Bitcoin may be moving from one person to another. Maybe it's what they're at, but I'll explain that too. So on a phone, the interface that holds Bitcoin, it's just like a regular app. You could use Coinbase, Gemini. There's things like called Trust Wallet. They're holders, they're devices and software that holds Bitcoin. And in the functionality, there is a receiver send button. And so if you want to receive Bitcoin, you hit receive. It'll show your wallet address or it'll show a QR code. You show the QR code to the other person. It scans it. Then the other person can pick if they're going to send you one hundred dollars and then it can work in reverse that way. And then you have your your whole ledger there. Some of these wallets have an interface where they allow a bank to be connected to import dollars into the system in order to get your first Bitcoin. So that's a lot of what we see, too, is new entrants to the market. There's still a lot of people that have yet to invest in Bitcoin and that are looking to. it always starts not usually always starts with the conversion of u.s dollars the dollars devaluing as we said earlier so bitcoin is that hedge and that's maybe just their alone investment case not even the case for a form of digital gold or replacement for real estate purely a dollar replacement. And so if that's what we're talking about on the street, you can do it at any time. If the banks go down, if Venmo goes down, if Zelle goes down, if you have Bitcoin and even stable coins on your phone and you meet somebody on the street, you can transact that way. Well, like for me, I'm really very positively inclined towards having lots of choices, having people have lots of choices out there so that they determine what their future is. You know, I'm not really, you know, the regulation that's gotten in the way of people living their lives and doing what they want to do. Like, like, I don't understand why. Honestly, I don't understand why it needed to be regulated for you to to, you know, get us, you know, become an advisor. I chose that to allow back then. our clients to just have comfort that there's somebody watching us to make sure that we don't run away with the coins see I love that now I love that because you chose to do it as a protection of your clients instead of it being something that was heavy-handed in regulation and I think that's that's a fantastic way to go that's right and look it's worth addressing san bankman frieden ftx Seriously. It was extremely simple. They made a request to us to move our business and have our Bitcoin in custody by them. And we have a very simple due diligence questionnaire. And one of them goes, do you guys have an office and a license in the United States? Oh, we operate out of the Bahamas. Why do you need to operate out of the Bahamas? You're obviously not doing something right. Be here, be in the United States. If you're going to try to really take care of people, like we did. We have an office in Newport Beach, California. We have an office right here in Palm Beach, Florida. We are here. We welcome the regulars. Say, hey, come if you want to see what we got going on. And they have. They've come into the office. They want to make sure we're taking care of our investors. And that's going to allow the industry to flourish. They simply didn't do that. Instead, buying politicians, flying Tom Brady over, making everybody think that they're the greatest thing since sliced bread. Meanwhile, they're taking people's coins in the background and just on the website showing them that they have it. It was a disaster, but it was a very obvious one. Well, it would be for you, but for the rest of us, I think we'd have to come out and say, you know, what the living hell is going on here? You know, this is so wrong. And then the ties to our elections and politicians was the egregious problem there. There's a few really good questions that are there. Exactly. Coming out here and I'm trying to process all this. Since transactions are public and auditable, how do you protect your privacy so you're not opening all your finances up to the public? Yeah. So it's an alphanumeric wallet address. So your name doesn't go with it. And so you can create as many wallets as you want. If you have just one wallet and you have ten units of Bitcoin on it and you have your eight hundred and twenty thousand dollars on there and you send it to another wallet, Your name's not on it. You've never signed up to KYC AML. Bitcoin is anonymous. Your wallet address, what's worth explaining this on like a five-year-old to a five-year-old, is think of it like where you live. It's your mailbox. Think of your address. You live at one, one, one, hop along lane, and then your zip code. All that strung together without spaces is where your Bitcoin is stored. And you can create another house next door. You can create a house anywhere else with a different alphanumeric code. And if you really want privacy, you can scatter the ten units of Bitcoin one a piece in different wallets and use them for different things. So that's the beauty. It's up to you, the holder, to decide how you want to hold them. All is one offline, one in each wallet. The flexibility is nearly endless. Wow. There are a lot of questions that are coming up here. And I think this is interesting. And I think this is pretty indicative of how people are not still not, you know, they're not the early adopters on something like this. But we all know that the monetary system is screwed up. But we're just not sure what to do with it at this point in time, clearly. Let's see. We've got an email, sent an email to a podcast near... And he's speaking about Bitcoin. Dr. Jack Cruz, are you familiar with him? No, I don't know. Bitcoin is extremely popular and stuff to coverage. It gets good clicks and comments and questions. But yeah, no, I'm not aware. You can send it to me after, and I'm happy to address them. Yeah, well, I'm just watching the comments right now because I want to know, too, if people are as ignorant on the subject as I am because I am. There's a lot of distractions, though, when it comes to Bitcoin and crypto. Because it gets so many clicks, there's a lot of YouTubers, TikTokers, Their intention is to maybe act like they're not giving you advice, but they're just trying to get your eyeballs so that they can get paid on the back end. And you got to understand, like your show, question everything. Why is this person, who maybe doesn't look like a professional, promoting this meme coin or altcoin You got to understand a lot of it's just for the eyeballs and the clicks and the revenue that they make to get their plaque on the wall to show how many viewers and followers they have from YouTube. And it's not for your benefit. It's for their benefit. And oftentimes they're getting paid in that meme coin or cryptocurrency in the back end to do that promotion. And they're looking for the price to go up themselves so they can sell it. It's very dangerous. Yeah, that's another thing. What I've heard about another one, I think it's EFT. Do you have an opinion on that? On which one? ETH or which one? EFT. I think there's an EFT. I can look it up. Oh, the ETFs for Bitcoin? I don't know. They're traded on the stock market now? I don't know. There's a couple of them that my friends are like, go on Coinbase and buy some of this. And I'm like, I don't know anything about it. I haven't spent any time looking at this, so I'm just kind of not even there. Maybe it's XRP? XRP was one of them. So it's worth talking a little bit about XRP in its fit in the broader cryptocurrency ecosystem. XRP is the token that helps run what's called the Ripple Network. The Ripple Network is a blockchain. And what's been promoted by it is that it's going to be the rails that banks use to move money between each other. Is this happening? I can't say. But what we have to understand is that Ripple, the network, and its XRP token are two separate things. But the XRP token is used to help validate the transactions. Okay. I just used some big stuff there. What is validate the transaction? Think of the blockchain as a public QuickBooks, okay? The balance sheet, the P&L, it's all out there. It's a ledger-based system, isn't it? What's that? It's a ledger-based. It's a ledger-based system, but somebody has to prove that one plus one equals two on the most simplistic level. Who's doing that? That's what a Bitcoin miner is. They are solving the math, making sure one plus one equals two. Then they are also validating all the other transactions back to Bitcoin's original or when it had origin in And then they're also solving a complex Rubik's cube math equation. They gotta do those three things. The fastest computers to do it, win an award of Bitcoin. And that's the premise behind really blockchain and the tokens behind it is, are they being mined, right? Is someone validating the transactions? And so what can happen is the one plus one equals two. And if we take this over to XRP, In the one plus one, that's just one bank, Citibank, moving it to Wells Fargo, okay? We see it debit the one, credit the other, net zero. Nothing went up or down in value, but the one lost one, the other one added one, and there it goes. But the beauty of blockchain, what people have really stressed on it is it's verified independently by non-bank, non-government people. And that's what Bitcoin miners are. And XRP is kind of a version of this, but trying to do more partnerships with the banking system. And so there are different cryptocurrency tokens and projects that are out there that strive to have an individual specific use case. But what's different is there's all those and then Bitcoin's the other one all by itself. Creator removed, twenty one million, digital asset, digital real estate, scarce. And so we always separate those when we look at the rest of the stack. But maybe they were asking about XRP. We do get a lot of questions about XRP. I think that there's so many that have been thrown around over the years and And I have friends that have invested in lots of different cryptos and they watch them like hawks. And I'm like, OK, let's I probably should spend some time studying this a little bit. For stable coins, you're either trusting that a company backing is enough cash on hand to fully cash out. which even banks don't have, or you're hoping for government backing of it, which is basically the CBDC with extra steps. Can you speak to this? Can you answer that? A lot of different stable coins out there. They go by different names. We have Tether, which is like the original one is the largest market cap one. there's usdc there's g usd and I know these acronyms all stand for something else right but us digital currency right and then you got g usd which is the gemini us dollar they are a bit different in the back end and how they're reportedly backed okay uh like for gemini the g usd they they run that stable coin they back it one to one supposed to be all there with dollars and so they've been around business no impairment Their coin has worked for years and it continues to work. Tether in the beginning was a bit opaque about what they had backing their coin. But we've seen lately that they've become the biggest buyer of US, probably the biggest buyer, if not one of the largest buyers replacing China of US treasuries. And our government really likes that. there's a buyer out there for something that a lot of people don't want. And so each one of them has different mechanisms. So you would need to look under the hood and see what they have and what they're reporting to have in the back end and whatever fits for you and your business. I think there's so many comments here. I don't even know where to start. What is the key code and can it be stolen? Yes, it's the private key that people talk about. Okay. So when you have a wallet address, that's like your house number, one, one, one, hop along lane and the zip code, that's your alpha numeric code. Okay. That's the public address that anyone can send Bitcoin to. There's also a private address where Bitcoin can be sent out of that only, you know, on your device. And so that one's not given out. It only is that one time use out of your wallet. And so if you say on your phone, right, you have Bitcoin on your phone and you have a very simple like uh you know thumb pin swipe code on it or like a four digits one one one one somebody could get in there they don't really even need to know your private keys they're just gonna get the wallet and they can send uh bitcoin away um if you post um your seed phrase what's the seed phrase it's a complex series of words that allows you to get to your wallets and your in your private key somebody could then access your coins The thing with Bitcoin is, though, is that the actual blockchain has not been hacked. Its private keys have not been taken. The things that people have seen or have heard in Bitcoin and like the hacks is the actual company, like FTX. They didn't hack Bitcoin. They didn't mess with private keys. They just told clients that they had their ten units of Bitcoin in the back and they moved them out. They were just falsely reporting. They were falsely showing the user interface on the website. That's the difference. That whole FTX thing was really, really shocking. I mean, we've talked about that quite a bit here. And I think it was so shocking to everyone that this type of bad behavior has been driving our politics for years. Did you enjoy your night that we were at Mar-a-Lago? I did. The guy that opened up and sang the national anthem was unbelievable. Oh, unbelievable. I recorded that. I mean, I got tingles on my spine and it was really incredible. And the gentleman that I was with actually gave me a dare and it almost worked. He said, you know what you should do is go to the team and offer up to donate a thousand dollars in Bitcoin. And then offer to process that for anybody else who wants to donate their Bitcoin for anybody in the crowd. So I like two thirds of the way through the auction, I got up, I went to the guys that were administrating and running it. they didn't really understand what Bitcoin was. I gave him a quick education on it, told him what I would do. And then we met the MC who was running the auction and he looked at me like deer in headlights. So hopefully I get to go back and educate him. It didn't get done. But since then I was at another charity event and we posted a year of asset management and advice that we donated for anybody who's looking to get into crypto. So yeah, it's coming. There's a lot more adoption, but yeah, it was a great night, great food, fun. Yeah, it was. Well, I think this is, with watching the comments and such, I think that the overall, a lot of people are really lost on this subject. And it would be wonderful, you know, for somebody such as yourself to actually, you know, I'd love to have you back on again. And then let's go through, this is the first time we've talked on screen. you know, and we got to talk there just a little bit, but you know, I think I'm probably representative of somebody who's six years old and really, you know, his has not spent any time really looking into this too much. And, but he has a lot of questions, not that I'm not open to it, but you know what I've really be open to is a step-by-step. And I think this would be helpful for people who are watching. And I think this has answered a lot of questions. I really do, but a step-by-step tutorial, on the basics of crypto. You know, you have a lot of, a lot of nerds out there, you know, and I'm kind of a nerd, but I'm not a crypto nerd. Okay. And so to that, that would love to have somebody explain it because there has been so much misleading and distraction to your point. And then the FTX stuff going on that to get some really good advice, that would be a shame if people miss something that could be really helpful. And I would love to have something that was, you know, a step-by-step that has that aha moment. Oh, I get it, you know. And, oh, that answers that question. Is there a place that we can go for those base level, that base level knowledge so that, you know, because clearly you have gone out to be a trusted advisor, right? So is there a way that people can honestly see the truth as opposed to the propaganda that's out there? The first thing you put in Google or YouTube is probably going to be propaganda and distractions that are out there. I'll give the email to the company. We have a very simple education deck. It explains really what Bitcoin is, what we feel is important for investors to know, and then a little bit on how to invest for the first time. Okay, I've got it. Yeah, our email is HQ, like headquarters, at D-A-I-M. That's Delta Alpha Indigo Mary dot I-O. HQ at D-A-I-M dot I-O. Dot I-O, right? Yeah, dot internet operation. And we'll send you this little education deck. Something else that you could do is be very specific in your keyword search. You could do something like, how to buy Bitcoin for the first time on Gemini, right? Gemini is our custodial partner. They are like a regulatory first holder of Bitcoin. We like them. There's also things like Coinbase, but Coinbase gets a bit distracting to us because they really promote all those other coins that are out there and it might lead you down the wrong hole. If you're gonna do anything on the back of this, watching this video, you will hear a lot of people say, do your research, do your research, do your research, you're gonna learn. if you can spare ten dollars which shouldn't break anybody's bank maybe even a hundred go through the exercise something like gemini and maybe you know buy ten dollars worth of bitcoin you can do that you could buy a smaller amount than eighty two thousand when you start to hold something it emotionally gets inside of you and you start to watch and learn it was like you're saying you see some of the people that have told you what to buy they're constantly looking at where the prices are and what's going on Cryptocurrency digital assets become the most exciting portion of people's portfolio. I know people that have ninety five percent in stock, millions of dollars. They have a little portion in crypto with us and they want to know everything. They want to be ready for the weekend. They want to have fun talking about it with their friends at dinner. It becomes very interesting. It is the future. It's decentralized. And so, yeah, happy to help. There's a way to YouTube again, just simply search, you know, how to buy a little bit for the first time and go to a reputable exchange. Like I said, go to Gemini. Careful because there's Binance, there's Overseas, Bybit, there's all kinds of other exchanges trying to get your money. but they're not doing it the right way. They're not reputable. Yeah, they could be around for a while, but start off reputable way. And then if anybody is, you know, a larger account and needs assistance, you know, we're happy to work with you on a one-to-one level, you know, and set it up in strategic accounts, like a trust corporate, you know, talk to you about that. That sounds like a great way to do it. I would love to do it. I'd like to play it as a game. Play it as a game and just get a little bit. Gamify everything. Yes, that's right. So you would go to Gemini. What do you think of Coinbase? Because that name comes up a lot. Coinbase is just like Gemini. They just want their user interface to us for somebody for the first time. it seemed really simple to connect your bank account their default fees are a bit high into where it is and then also you get a big menu of altcoins outside of bitcoin you know the the this is not investment advice kind of thing but you know we're here talking I want to see people do this the right way you could research this endlessly and the price is going to go up and you've never owned any and you're doing more of a detriment to your portfolio than getting started so john and I would be your Gemini would be one that you feel comfortable saying. Yes, there are business partner in it. I do feel comfortable saying, hey, check out Gemini. And they're not spraying the street with distractions trying to get your clicks. They're trying to do a straightforward business in the crypto space for the long term. OK, that's interesting. Well, and I think that this is one of those things, topics that we've gotten on is how abysmal the education process has been for planning for the future, for any type of money management. or, you know, that intelligence test that's always out there, you know, they'll give kids like five candies on a table. And then they say, if you wait for X amount and you're planning, really planning for the future is what it is. It's an investment in your time that you'll get half a pound or something like that. The smart kids leave the candy and plan for the future. And it's the same kind of thing when we plan for our financial future or or just any type of management, people seem like they're very lost in that regard. So I think this is wonderful. And I love talking to you about this. Do you have anything else that you'd like to leave with your last words? Just to recap, again, the number one thing, if you tuned in late from the beginning, When you're looking at cryptocurrencies, understand that Bitcoin is that rare digital asset, that alternative store value. It's an alternative to gold. It's an alternative to real estate. It's fixed supply is twenty one million. It is scarce. Us humans love things that are scarce. We used to not have dollars way back in time. We used to transact for things with seashells. And so understand that the evolution is coming. And Donna, like you said earlier, you like to have options. Bitcoin is not one hundred percent your portfolio, but it should be an option, maybe two percent, maybe seven percent, maybe more. But diversify yourself for the future. Something I'll actually leave you with is coming back to what's going on with our president and his sons. You have Eric Trump and Donald Trump Jr. have taken investment roles and advisory roles in American Bitcoin. Remember earlier I talked about mining Bitcoin and how it validates the transactions. they must see something here that is valuable and helpful for them to take a twenty percent position in this company. American mining, which mines Bitcoin and validates the transactions we talked about earlier, could earn about ten thousand units of Bitcoin in its first year. That could be almost a billion dollars in revenue. It could be a healthy profit margin business for them. But it also gets them right there under the hood watching all the transactions taking place on Bitcoin. I've never seen anything like this before. It's a lot of what we dreamt of. But it's kind of good to see like legitimate businesses and them getting involved in these instead of something else. Well, and I think this is to your point that we are transforming as a nation. And I think that there's going to be a lot of choices going forward as the nation changes. We're going to change. We're in the midst of change. And, you know, pretty extra sure that there's been an awful lot of good changes that have come through the Trump family in general. And that is a significant piece of advice or a piece of information, in my opinion, and you know, be, be okay with changing and open to new things. So that's a good, that's a good deal. Well, I usually end with a prayer and then, you know, and then we'll go about our day. So would you like to pray or would you like me to pray? Go for it, but I'll be here with you. Okay. That sounds great. Dear Heavenly Father, thank you so very, very much for all the wonderful people that are out there and that are working to make this nation into a better place to be. Now, it wasn't our fault that everything got handed to us this way. We're kind of in it together, but we want to work together in order to create a bright future. And we're thankful for all of the changes that you put in front of us. And sometimes they're a little uncomfortable, but that's okay. We know that you're in charge of things. We know there's a lot of people out there right now who are brokenhearted. Scott talked about it earlier, and he's a good friend. I've known him for many years about depression and not really knowing how to process the world around us. Well, We know that you're here and we keep our eyes on you and you can lead us out of anything and everything and change things and fix things and remold things and redeem things. And we're very, very grateful that you care enough about us to walk through all situations with us. You're just so wonderful for us and to us. And you're always providing and giving us wisdom in everything we do. We ask that everybody out there knows that they're not alone, that you're with them. All they got to do is turn to you and ask questions of you and you'll provide the answers, which is fantastic and so gracious of you. Thank you for being a wonderful friend to us. And we want to be a friend to you too. In Jesus Christ's precious name we pray. Amen. So anyhow, well, thank you for coming on today. This is wonderful. And I appreciate your patience with my ignorance of the subject because I have studied a lot of different things. This is one subject I have actively avoided. I'm just going to tell you that straight up. It's my passion to do this. And I'm happy now that we helped and educated a few more people and happy to do this again and help you out further. yeah, I would like to learn more about it because I do think that, that having good advice in all things. And even if we're kind of like, uh, uh, not aware of things, we need to look into everything and not be afraid to question them. So thank you so much for being on here today. All right, boys and girls out there, we're going to be back tomorrow and, uh, I'll have, uh, off the grid on tomorrow. And we're going to be talking about some more significant things for survival. And also Dr. David's going to be back on with us tomorrow and he is feeling a little bit better. So that's, that's wonderful news. So have a great day today and remember you're not alone. You're always, there's a lot of us out there who are fighting for a bright future for each one of us, for our families, as we stand together and without compromise. So with that said, God bless you all. God bless all those whom you love, and God bless America. Have a great day. Make it so. Stay on the line a minute, Brian, and we'll just talk after we sit. The good conversations happen when we're on the line.