Published Jan. 10, 2025, 9:01 a.m.
9am Off the Grid - Bug Out Bags with Dr. David Kent, Ralph the IT Guy, Karen the Riveter and Shawn Starry! What do to become independent, or when the power grid goes down. Also news and views on what's going on in the world Shawn Starry - Panhandle Documentary and Author of several books. We will be discussing survival techniques if domestic terrorism occurs or in a wartime scenario. Other subjects Texas wildfire DEW Directed Energy Weapons -Freedom Garden Club Podcast X/Twitter: https://x.com/i/broadcasts/1gqxvNyVpWgxB Rumble: https://rumble.com/v67snu7-bnn-brandenburg-news-network-1102025-off-the-grid-bug-out-bags.html https://rumble.com/v67so6a-bnn-brandenburg-news-network-1102025-off-the-grid-bug-out-bags.html Odysee: https://odysee.com/@BrandenburgNewsNetwork:d/bnn-2025-01-10-off-the-grid-bug-out-bags:a https://Live.BrandenburgNewsNetwork.com BrandenburgNewsNetwork.com Guests: Donna Brandenburg, Dr David Kent, Ralph the IT Guy, Karen the Riveter, Shawn Starry
Good morning and welcome to Brandenburg News Network. I am Donna Brandenburg and it's the tenth day of September, of September, of January. I'm losing it here. Twenty twenty five. Been up since four thirty this morning, working in the barn, actually feeding horses. So this was an early start to the date for me today. But everyone there is doing well and I'm going to bring on my buddies here for Off the Grid. How you guys doing? right good morning who needs sleep right you know you know it's overrated needing sleep I literally was up at four about four twenty this morning setting up the broadcast getting things ready and then hightailing it to the barn because and I haven't even really had coffee yet this morning so we're getting there um yeah in the winter time when you take care of large animals your workload increases substantially so like uh everything is more difficult when you got snow on the ground that's all I got to say so out of this morning came skidding in here to bam sit in the seat and here we are happy new year everyone have a happy new year happy new year happy new year yeah I mean we all have a wonderful year ahead of us did you guys have a great did you have a great season It was nice. It was very nice. We had a good time. Didn't get much done, but we're going to Florida soon. Yeah, our lovebirds. Our newlywed lovebirds there. So, yeah. We made it through our first New Year's. No family fights or anything. That's awesome. That's so awesome. Jeannie's dad's in the hospital, so she's heading over there to make sure he's okay. I'm checking on him. So, I'm off to for parent duty, but I just wanted to wish everyone a happy and healthy new year and see you soon. Very nice. We'll be praying for you and for your dad. Very nice. So this is what it is, guys. It's like this is one of those family things. You know, we're all friends. We all know each other, know each other for quite a long time, actually. And so it's kind of a kind of a fun time for us to be able to get back together after the holiday season, which is awesome. So what are we talking about today, boys and girls? Besides besides the fact that we're Sean's going to be bringing up the bug out bags and such. So not only do we have Dr. David and we have a tech expert and a constitution and jury, a grand jury expert on the show. Now we've got a guy that has actual survival skills to drop him off in the middle of absolutely BFE nowhere. And he's going to be able to figure it out no matter what the conditions are. So we're going to continue on with this with getting everybody prepared because I don't know about you guys, but this morning I got up and I have to tell you, I felt like I was standing on a knife blade. Like, you know what I mean? Where you're sitting there going. It just feels like there's something big brewing. I'm not buying anything they're saying about these wildfires or the fires in California. It's way too scripted. I'm not believing anything. I'm kind of wondering if they're burning out the bad guys, actually, because they're destroying evidence there of what they've done. That's a huge guess that I have going on here. and and I have one comment with that and I kind of felt the same I'm looking at those pictures you know on the news I'm like god they just look ai or something but I did text a friend of mine who lives in a very wealthy area. I don't know what it's called. And it has a beautiful mansion overlooking the Pacific Ocean. And he just replied back last night that his entire house is completely gone and everything in it burned to the ground. Yeah, I think we're absolutely seeing reality that things are definitely burning. But what I'm questioning is who's behind it And, you know, and I guess my thought is, is that with that mayor having absolutely no word, she seems like she's just kind of like a little clueless patsy out there who is following orders. She doesn't she doesn't strike me as somebody who has the brain, the brain trust there to be able to actually pull off anything either good or evil because she seems out of her element doing the wrong thing. I'm going to tell you, she did the wrong thing, but I'm guessing it's because there's people way smarter than her up the chain. that are directing her as what to do. Now, with that said, my guess is that they're trying to hide evidence. And unfortunately, we're in a war, and no war is ever clean. There's a lot of people who are innocent in any wartime situation who get used as pawns, who are hurt beyond belief that just got caught up in the war that's going on around them. And that's what I'm guessing is happening. I think they're burning it out, though, to hide evidence. I think they just have a clear lack of blue roofs. Well, I think we've been talking for some time about being prepared for any kind of emergency scenario. And here in Michigan, we tend to think in terms of tornadoes or thunderstorms or winter ice storms and that kind of thing. We occasionally will see fires here, but they tend to be managed better. I don't think that's because the DNR manages it really well. Maybe we compare it. well our DNR is better than California's first forestry service but we I think One of the lessons here is we compare... I've been thinking about the difference between the response in the media and by the government in North Carolina versus California. And I just posted again this morning, the death toll in California is in the tens. And in North Carolina, after the hurricane and the storm and the flooding... We're talking thousands still, and they're not even putting it in the news as far as I know. But we have to be prepared for anything. We happen to be here in Michigan. We can think about how we would stay warm if a disaster happened this time of year. That's obvious. But we just don't know what's going to happen and where. And I think this California thing is kind of proving that out there. What is the risk? What is the biggest risk they have? Drought, fire. Earthquakes. earthquake because there's another big one yeah so trading by the drug gangs out there too and all of the the proximity to the border and such even though every state's a border state at this point in time I mean the whole state's been infiltrated and such so I listened to a video this morning too of a guy that said now I don't know if it's true or not of course this is just one of those uh you know unvetted or unverified claims, but he said he was listening to people. There was a guy that apparently looked like he was shot, according to him, and was up in the mountains and heard some people of the mountains talking about starting fires on every single hilltop. Now, we don't know if that's true or not. We can bring this forward, but truly we have to question everything. But I think, too, there's a difference in the fire risk, too, between Michigan and California in that Michigan, we don't currently have all of the waterways and all of the water supplies owned by basically one couple like they do in California. And additionally, we have a lot more water here, both falling from the sky as well as available on the ground to deal with firefighting on a local level. Yeah. Yeah, basically one couple owns the entire water supply or most of it for the state of California. And so it's very, very controlled and it's a real problem. If you haven't looked into that, it's the same people that own, I believe it's Wonder, the corporation called Wonder, which is a lot of our food. So to really see how they've centralized our food, our water underneath these corporations and see how this is happening. There's a new one that I think has come to mind here in Michigan that we're seeing now. We're seeing birds destroyed. Like there's people on the ground that are talking about flocks of turkeys and such that they're coming in and destroying them overnight. Small flocks too. It's a little disturbing. Not the large flocks, but even the small flocks. And the involvement with the planning zones or planning commissions that are around. There's a company that's involved in doing a lot of the planning, which the planning commissions listen to. And there's some questionable activities with this company, including being a provider of corporate food for this area. So they're literally tying themselves into the zoning boards in order to hijack our zoning to stop people from producing their own food, getting rid of our food sources that are locally grown and such. through their pretended legislation or regulation. And that's one of the other ways they're doing it. It's really pretty diabolically subversive. Well, what other risks do you think we could really face here in Michigan, Donna? What other types of risks could you see happening besides power going down? That's another big one. communications are going to go down. It's going to be power communications. And then one of the biggest things, and I think I've talked about this in the past because I'm, I'm a proper, you know, I've taught it. I've been a person who has like a home birth, my kids homeschooled, my kids, I forced her food. I've, done a lot of things that probably I've trained myself to go without food for like three days. And so, I mean, I can go a long time without eating. Ask the people that know me really well. They'll tell you I forget to eat because it's just not important to me in life. I eat because I have to eat, but it's not a priority. I think one of the biggest things that's going to be shocking to people is if we get in a situation where we do not have a way to get rid of waste. So if you don't have a way to get rid of waste and or to deal with that, that's a biggie. Another thing is dealing with personalities around us that are in a state of panic. I've also talked about that for quite a while and how to manage that. And it sounds really stupid, but people need their creature comforts in order to maintain sanity when they're used to a certain level of creature comforts. and or things they're used to, if they lose those things, they're like totally, totally panic. So if you have like, say something that's some candy, some hard candy, or something like that something that just takes that raw edge off and overrides the brain's reaction okay that's what you do in horse training in horse training you have an irrational um animal of prey that sees everything as a threat And so when you approach people the same way, because people and horses are just about the same. If I have to deal with a conflict mediation session that I'm in charge of or something, you watch how people react. And it's always just reactionary to something that really doesn't amount to anything generally. And so you've got to get them past that physical reaction and and override the brain's emotional reaction to things. And once you get past that, you can have everybody think clearly. That's another big thing. have you got to have a plan on how you're going to manage the people around you because honestly this is another thing I said for a long time the biggest threat we have in america it's not from those that are coming from the outside it's going to be from people who go into crazy land over toilet paper and crap like that, pun intended, to cope with things they can't control. Human beings are absolutely addicted to control. Absolutely addicted to control. They feel out of control in an out-of-control world. And so they do things that are irrational, even things they think are going to save them. They will run right to their death. Horses do the same thing. It's exactly the same reaction. So all of those things, besides food and water, having food and water and such. But you have to be prepared for those things that you perhaps wouldn't envision happening, created by those people around you. whom you love. Yep. That's a really valuable piece of advice that gets overlooked a lot because we do, when you're doing, when you're doing preparation work, you do kind of tend to think about yourself and the people immediately around you and expect that they will be able to cope with things as well as you do. Yeah. And that is probably a good assumption to check. Something I found interesting recently is that I tend to scroll through the Dish Network guide and see what kind of movies are on, because they often go in groupings. And the other night there was Contagion, I Am Legend, War of the Worlds. Oh, there was another one about a pandemic scenario, too. All in like one night. Yeah. It's kind of interesting because it's like, is somebody trying to send us some training? Yeah. but in some of those movies they do address that so there's there's a a way to kind of visualize how that would look you know what is the the mental state of people in that kind of environment and in some of them they really hit that panic pretty good um When people are told to evacuate. There's environmental disaster ones, too. So there was like the day after tomorrow where there's a giant ice storm over the whole north of the United States and the whole northern half. And everybody in the southern half was told to evacuate to Mexico within hours. And so it was like, yeah, this is not going to work. Of course, everybody panics. And in California, people panicked. They had roads getting blocked. And of course, this is allegedly, but this is what I saw, that bulldozers were moving cars out of the way after the fire had gone through because people had to abandon their cars and go running. But then they had to open up the roads for more services to go through. But that's what you do. You panic and you get out of your car and you run. What if you can't run? Quick question here, Sean. What's your TikTok account? My TikTok account? No, no, I'm sorry, your Twitter account. Oh, my Twitter account also is homeseckconsult.com. Wasn't coming up. Got it. Okay. Back to the program. Karen, what you're saying is that everyone needs a bulldozer. Well, actually, people with motorcycles and sports bikes, if you've got a motorcycle or a sports bike or a horse, you're likely to do better. Horses can panic too, so you have to have one of Donna's specially trained horses and not necessarily a rescue horse that panics at the first sign of danger. You've got to have a really good stable horse that can haul stuff and people around. You don't want to get on a new horse either. You want that horse to know you, that you've had enough time bonding so that that horse trusts you. If you tell them to run through fire, that horse is going to run through just about fire. You saw those people walking the horses out of California and such. Notice how calm those horses were. Horses were calm because of the people that were around them. Just like horses, when you have one calm person in a scenario, It decelerates the whole thing. So to everybody that's out there that's stuck with being on and off the grid long enough, you're probably special individuals called by God for this time. Keep your calm on no matter what happens. You're going to probably be the ones that hold it together when everybody else is absolutely losing their minds. This is kind of interesting. I decided to go ahead and watch the first episode of a show. What's it called? I can't remember what it's called, but it's like Navy SEALs sort of training special forces, I think is what it's called. But they take sixteen people from entertainment and sports. So these are people who at one point in their career were famous Well-known, maybe they've aged a little bit and maybe they're not as much in the spotlight and they're looking to get back into it. Or maybe they're just really wanting to find out who they are and what their inner strengths are and challenge themselves. Stephen Baldwin didn't make it through the first day. He was good. It was interesting because he was good if it was a flashy exercise in front of the cameras. But when it came to simple endurance of cold, he started to panic. But one of the there's a gymnast on there and she panicked. a few times and it wasn't because of the situation it was because her her mental emotional state and what finally came out when they got her away from everybody and talked to her she was one of the victims of the sexual assault things going on in the gymnastics and so that she was in gym um the gym world from the age of four to eighteen when she retired And I don't know how old she is now, but she's been carrying that trauma ever since then. And it's finally coming out in a totally different situation. And it causes her to just go into a panic attack is what's happening. She freezes up. She can't think. There's another woman that freezes. She can't think. She cannot move. Nothing makes any sense to her. She also failed within the first couple of days, I think, because she just said, my back hurts. I can't do this. People will do that. They'll freeze or they will incapacitate themselves whether they're really physically capable or not. She can be really strong without the the mental state of I'm going to fail. You know, if you doubt yourself that much, you can't help other people. And what's the other thing that's interesting about this is that immediately there are certain people who start to serve as leaders. You can see them coaching other people. You know, some of the guys will take a girl under their wing and be like, I'm here for you. I got you. They just have a tendency to find somebody who's more vulnerable than they are and go right up to them and put them under their wing and say, we're going to make it together. And these are people who are strangers to each other. That was a really good thing to see in that kind of situation. What's the show called? I think it's called Special Forces. I've seen it before. It's kind of entertaining. And they're serious exercises. They will scare the crap out of you who've never done anything like that before. Things like, oh, you got to jump from a boat to a helicopter and then climb aboard the helicopter. If you follow the water, you're moving fast. It's not going to feel good. This is for you, Erin. This is for you. Thanks. Might need to unmute it. I don't think we're muted. Are we muted? Oh, yep. There you go. Sorry. Don't know the sound. Can you hear it now or not? No. Really? Oh, my goodness. Well, it's for you. You're going to have to look it up. Sorry. Share the link on Telegram. Oh, I'll put the link on Telegram. There you go. I had, I think, one of my best memes of the year yesterday. That was funny. I don't know if we're going to talk about the contents of the bug out bag, but something just came to mind from my friend's message to me yesterday. that the last line was he didn't have time to pack. And this guy's got a collection worth millions of rock and roll memorabilia. But one thing that people probably overlook when creating a bug out bag is important papers and stuff like that that you want to take. because, hey, you probably want to have proof that, you know, this is your bank account, that this is your home mortgage, you know, just to take important papers and keep them somewhere where you can take them with you in the bug out bag. You know, it's not just all survival stuff. You have to think about what possibly could go wrong after everything has settled down. All right. On War of the Worlds, Tom Cruise's character tells his son, we have sixty seconds to get out of this house and go. Pack some food in this box. And they carry this box around with them everywhere they go for the next, you know, hurried moments. And when they get to somewhere safe, he finally looks into the box, what's in it. And it's like a bottle of ketchup and a bottle of salad dressing. Things like that. He goes, that's all you had in your house. That's funny. Well, Sean, what's your what's your thoughts on the bug out bag, too? Besides, I like that. I like that, David, the the identification and paper in important papers. So besides your IDs and any medical information. that you have about yourself that's gonna be used. You know, if you find yourself in a situation where you need somebody to give you medical treatment, then you would need that medical papers, some kind of an ID bracelet or something. But as far as bug out bags go, there's only well there's one company that I absolutely trust they actually sell their equipment to special forces and to a lot of guys like myself who um we've gone to extensive trainings for this um but this is called bso survival gear and what's really cool is they actually have what they call the I get you home bag it's about maybe two pounds um it's got a strap and everything you can put it on uh it's got a water filtration kit it's got your um it's got like a a solar panel charger for your phone um there's a water filtration kit right here this is one part of it this is actually better than live straw you get about fifty thousand forty to fifty thousand more gallon waters through this You've got your typical paracord. This is one of the best survival knives that's out there on the market today. This is actually made in Finland, I believe. It's called a Morconi. Sean, can you tilt your camera down? Okay, I can see it now. Okay. So this is, pull this up. That's the name of the brand. Can't see it. You're going to have to spell it for us. Okay. And then we have one of the most important things is with a lot of times we tend to forget like, when, when you're in a bug out situation. And it's starting to get dark, right? And you're thinking to yourself, oh my gosh, I need to find some kind of shelter, right? So first thing you're gonna do is you're gonna start to panic. But with this, you've got an actual guide that comes with it. And it has all of the pictures and instructions on how to step by step build shelter, build fire, you know, how to source water. This has universally everything that you need just to get to the point of getting home. Now, this company does actually design and make every kind of bug-out bag that you can think of, like medical bug-out bags to... If you're going to be gone for like, seventy two hours, we're talking like another one, too, is if you're gone for a long period of time, if you're somebody like me who's been through the training, you know, look down the woods for weeks at a time or Um, as you're planning on, you know, trekking on foot, uh, great distance, then you want it there. You're going to want it there extended by boss, extended bug out bags. Um, and one of the things, you know, I, I have to say like in my family, one of the things that we did for many years was we ran bug out drills, just like we did with tornado drills or, um, like fire drills. Right. And, uh, The idea of the reason why I did that with my family to teach my children was because I wanted us to be out of the house, like Karen said, out, you know, thirty seconds. Want to be out and gone. So that means all of your bug out gear, your get your home bags, everything should already be in the trunk of your car or the back of your truck. And I think it's, you know, Yeah, there you go. Small get to home bag. As far as quality goes, this is probably one of the top tier top and I've ever seen as far as. You know the the equipment itself. I bought a lot of equipment over the years. I've made my own bug out bags over the years that cost me like extremely sane amount of money and then I would take it out the field and test everything and see if it actually holds up and and I've been disappointed a lot, but this one here in particular I was actually pretty impressed for. For the bank for your buck for quality, this is. This is about as good as you're gonna get so. Um, but, uh, my family and I, we were practiced by God drills. The idea was that no matter what we're doing, where we are, we're in the car and we are out of town or out of the city, uh, you know, within thirty minutes. Okay. So what we're trying to do is try to see how far in normal conditions can we get in thirty minutes. Then we have to think about uh all the other obstacles that we might you know encounter for example um number one the the information that we're getting might be delayed and the government may say a last minute okay um I don't know you got an army invasion coming your way or there's a wildfire or something right so now we have to leave and we've got you know two million other people on the road uh that's why it's really good to know you're the neck of your your woods there right um and what we've done is I've actually secured eight different locations um and these are all small pieces of property that I bought really cheap and what I did was I have a um a fifty gallon drum full of equipment, food and supplies that I would bury into the ground. And then whenever we needed to go, we need to get to a bug allocation based on where threats coming from. We assess that and then we say, OK, we're out the door. When we leave, we're leaving with the intentions that we are never coming back to this house again. Okay. So that's why we kind of would like that. We tried to duplicate everything that we have at the house, at least at one of those locations. So, and one of those locations, I have a little house there and I, I have duplicates of everything. So if we lose everything here, I'm not worried about it. We've got a there. So my wife is kind of a creature of comfort. So we have those things there. Um, But once we were out of the house, we timed ourselves. We said, okay, how long does it take me to get out of town? How long does it take me to go? Thirty minutes, right? And so we kind of anticipate in a traffic jam or other problems, how long it's going to take you to get there. Well, think about this in terms. if the road is blocked because there's an accident and you've got half a million people behind them trying to get out of the cities, um, it's going to slow up and it's going to peter your travel time. Right. So one of the things that we try to understand is how can we get the information quicker, get out of town quicker, like, like try to get ahead of the pack. Right. And, One of the things that we have to do is kind of figure out and assess what type of danger it is. And I always say, play it safe. If you have any doubts, then go. Our kind of rule is, is that if it's really, really bad, but we know it's common in this direction, we're not going to wait until the last minute like everybody else is. We just go, we just get in, we go. We don't tell any more. We're not going to call people. We're not going to tell people. We're just, we're going to get ourselves out first. Can I interrupt for a second? I have a question. Like what situations would you recommend that somebody bug out versus hunkering down? because I could see advantages for each, but I've never really thought about like, what kind of situation would you actually leave your primary place of survival? That's a good question. Generally, typically about eighty percent of the time, you're going to want to stay in your own home because your four walls are going to be your your best defense. But in cases like, say, for example, like a wildfire, like you see in California. Right. Right. I always say if you invest in yourself a little bit, if you're in an area where you have a potentiality for, say, a tornado or wildfire or whatever, build a root cellar or a little mini bunker or something that's not attached to your home. And the reason why I say that is because if nothing does happen to your home, and the threat has passed, you're not going to be twenty miles down the road trying to kind of rough it out there. Right. And you've got no four walls. So you're so your security is constantly compromised by so many different elements you've got the weather you've got the people you've got animals so there's there's always that constant threat but if you can manage to be able to stay in your own home for the most part chances are you're going to do you're going to fare a whole lot better but if you get into a situation say uh uh Let's say that we got invaded by another country, for example. you're listening to the ham radio and the ham radio is telling you, kind of giving you an idea of somebody saying, okay, this is where they're going. This is the direction they're, this is where they're at and this is the direction they're going. And so you surmise, okay, it's probably not a good idea for me to stay here because eventually they're going to come here and I want to get ahead of it. So that might be a really good, a good reason to go. So a quick note on that too, you brought up ham radio. And that is one of my favorite things about ham radio is during severe weather events, getting on there onto the onto the weather nets. And you can hear exactly where the reports are coming from of severe weather, you know, because people call it in as we've got this much wind or this size hail or whatever at the intersection of these two streets and you know exactly where things are. Yeah, a lot of the weather reporters, I did that voluntarily for years and every time you see a tornado coming or high winds or hail or whatever, every time I give a report out we always give our location and all that information but in a time of a situation like let's say we got invaded by another country um this is where you want to you know you want to get um all the different channels you can get get them online um you can find the pictures and you know screenshot it or something but they have all the more or all of the uh the ham radio um channels for different uh the different offices of the you know federal government we got like national guard and god um you know all that stuff it kind of broadcasts out to or anywhere if you're on whether you're land or sea um they have different channels for different uh agencies right so the idea is that you can go on there uh and you can listen right uh so if you hear you know there's this activity going on that activity, you're going to spend more time if trying to make a good decision is by listening to what other people are saying. Kind of like, you know, you're in the hallway just listening. And the reason being is because oftentimes people are going to tell you what you need to hear over ham radios far better and far quicker than what you'll hear people saying on the Internet. It could be, you know, hours before you finally find a video or, you know, mainstream media is not going to tell you the truth about anything. Unless you get on BNN, of course. What's that? Unless Donna goes live on BNN. Well, guys, guess what? Yeah, when I come out and say, well, guys, we're screwed. Yeah. Another thing, too, about the ham radio, and this is something that I hear, too, from people that get into getting a ham radio, and it bugs me to no end, is, oh, I'm just going to get a ham radio, and if something bad happens, then I'll figure it out. No, that's why you want to get licensed now so that you have a call sign, and you can get on there and start practicing now with being able to communicate with other people so that if something happens... It's second nature to be able to pop that thing on and get in communication with other people. It's just like a firearm. You don't want to just buy a firearm and a bunch of ammunition and have no idea what you're doing and say, well, if something happens, I'll figure it out. It's the same kind of thing. You want to be able to practice now so that you're proficient at it and it's second nature if something does happen. That brings me to another point of what you were talking about, Sean, when you were talking about practicing with your family. I remember there was one point when I was a kid, this is the only time I remember having any kind of practice. My parents got one of those chain ladders that could go out from a second story window during a fire. It braces over the edge of the open window and it, Dad put it in the window, and we all got an opportunity to climb out the window. As far as I remember, I don't remember if I did it or not for sure. I was probably four or five years old. But he made it interesting and safe and kind of fun and fun. It took a lot of that panic out of it. If we were to ever have needed it, we would have gone, OK, I've done this before. I trust that I'm really scared, but I've done it before. And that that concept of having done things before is is a big one for me. When you get up against a comfort zone and something you've never done before, it's really scary. So, hey, everybody, something you can actually do this weekend is sit down and think about where you would go if you needed to get out of your house this very minute this weekend. What would you need to take with you and practice it? Take the whole family and get in the car and go somewhere and think about where would it be? If you're at school, if you're at work. Can you go home and is there a second and a third place that you would meet up with your family? We've done that. My husband knows what to do. If he can't drive his car somewhere, he has a way to get home to me and he'll expect that I'm most likely going to be home because that's where I am most of the time. I'm not out and about working like he is. And I just know that he is prepared. So that takes that panic element out of it. And like we were talking earlier, that is half the battle, maybe more. If you've practiced it and you know, okay, my kids know what to do in this situation. I can focus on me and what I need to do to get to them. I know that they know what to do and maybe they'll take a couple of friends with them and help them to not panic. But that, That element of practice and planning removes a lot of panic, I think. Yeah, it does. I mean, one of the things that, you know, I used to teach other people when we were doing plugging out exercises, survival skills. when it comes down to making good decisions, it's all about preparedness ahead of time, because at least you have something to stand on and you can say, okay, well, you know, we we've been practicing this. And so what is the first thing we need to know? Okay. Communication die. So what are we gonna do for communication? Do we still have cell phones? Do we still have, uh, internet? Do we have to, we have all these things, uh, and utilize what you have at, uh, at your disposal. Then from there you say, okay, well, If I leave my home, I know my safety's gonna be compromised. Do I have a firearm? Am I proficient in it? So these are like, write down all the questions that you need to ask yourself. Walk yourself through the step. Then go and practice each piece of that step. And then when you get to the point where when it does happen, You're not going to panic, like you said. You know, if you have that one calm person in a house full of people that are flipping out, going crazy, and they see that you're calm, they're, you know, you're often going to be the target of lashing out at. But, however, they're going to see you're calm, and then they're going to become calm, and then everybody's going to become calm, and then say, okay, what's the plan? Okay, this is the plan. This is what we do. You know, it's really... The number one thing about survival when it comes to that point, the number one mistake that's going to get people killed is when they panic, is when they don't prepare, they panic. I mean, I've been doing this for some years, and I still have a little bit of panic inside of me at all times. I might be kind of frustrated or I'm not getting enough information on this, whatever this subject is, right? um or what if you know there's so many what else but that's why you go through and put yourself through the training uh like you know down on not eating for three days right um I've been in situations before like my wife and I our house got flooded out twice in the same year and the second one almost you know ended it all for us but We managed to get back to our home, and the government didn't come and save us. Actually, the government did the opposite. they prevented people from coming and helping us. And so we had to build our own infrastructure. And in turn, we ended up helping other people. But the initial shock is like, OK, what do you do? How do I get through this? And when you come to realization nobody's going to come and save you, everybody else is trying to save their own asses in this situation. When things start to calm down and when people start to get out of that panic mode, they start having solid ground to walk on, then people are gonna start to come together and say, okay, maybe we could help each other out, give each other aid and comfort and support, right? But in the initial phase, whenever you have to block out, it's always a good idea to prepare and plan ahead of time for all the what-ifs. So sit down and write. Now, in your area, say Michigan, you write down all the natural disasters you have in your area, okay? And then you think about... Two different types of scenarios. Okay, so nowadays you have an app. You can download a hotel app. You can put your credit card information into it, right? So if you have to bug out and it's thirty miles away, there's a hotel you can, you know, one's driving the other ones, you know, on the phone, you can order a room like that, whereas a lot of other people are going to be trying to call in. You're going to be able to get that room a lot quicker because by the time you get there, thirty miles later, all those rooms are going to be booked up. That one room is going to be left open for you because you put a hold on it through your app, right? And then you have to think about other things too, like what happens if communications go down, which means you're not going to have access to your money. You're not going to have access to bank. You're probably not going to have access to any kind of communication except what's on the ham radio. So whatever cash you have in your pocket, it may or It may or may not have any value at that point. What's it going to be of value is somebody who's got the four walls, you know, two doors and two windows, right? So that's why it's a really good idea to prepare ahead of time. Other locations you're going to go to. Family. Friends. I think friends, too. You should know some friends in different areas and call each other and say, hey, if you're in trouble, I'm saving a space for you. and network with your friends and such so that you even have, you bought property, but a lot of people know other people in different areas. And to approach this situation ahead of time and offer them to come and be a help in a time of trouble is, is a good way to start to, you know, something else to your point that you said, Sean, that I think this mental preparation is when you are the calm person in any situation and you haven't lost your mind. Remember, most people want others to commiserate with them. They want you to feel what they feel. They want you to feel the panic, the pain they feel. And so they will literally lash out at you in order to get a reaction. And they want to see you panic. They want to see you have that same, I'm going to call it what it is, weakened mindset. Expect it. know that you're looking at someone who is perhaps much weaker than you are. And this is just the reaction. And don't, don't decide to just jump onto the crazy wagon with them. You don't, you know, that, that is a, that, that is a comfort to people. If they think that if they think that everybody else is as panicked and scared and what, well, then they're validating their own craziness is what they're doing. And it's not helping for anyone. That's really important. But there's no guarantees of security that if you, you know, if you give in to somebody that's panicking and going crazy, you know, let's just say some dude in my neighborhood decides he's freaking out because all the communication is down and infrastructure is falling apart and there's, you know, the grocery stores aren't, they don't have any more food, you know. And he starts freaking out. And you guys ever seen the movies? This is a really good example, but The Mist, you know, where the people were inside the grocery store and there was that big mist coming outside. And there's that one crazy Christian lady. So she started using her religion as a way to, you know, I mean, she was just like off to deep end. All of a sudden, all these other people started kind of listening to her. And what had happened was it ended up resulting in the death of two of those or three of those military guys because she was accusing them of being responsible for what was happening outside of the... Paranoia sets in is what it is, too, is paranoia. Yeah, yeah. And paranoia is very infectious and it's very... Unfortunately, it's just something that people who don't... masters of chaos they'll end up being swept up by the chaos well people are addicted to it there there's an addiction there's an emotional addiction going on in the united states of america you if you don't get crazy you just don't care no maybe if I just don't want to you know participate in the drama And most of it goes back to justifying their discomfort and lack of control of the world. That's exactly what they're doing. Somebody wants you to commiserate with them. They're looking for justification. Yeah. This is interesting because on that Special Forces show, I noticed yesterday when I was watching it that all these people would get together after an exercise and they're exhausted, they're cold, they're wet. And they go, oh, well, that was bad. And then they start to talk about what they think is going to happen next. And it's all negative right away. Do you think we're done for the day? No, probably not. Are they going to make us wet again? I can't stand that cold weather. I can't make it if they do that. Well, yeah, they're probably going to put us back in the water. You know, it was stuff like that. And they were all negative. And I wanted to, I wanted to join in them and say, knock it off. Yeah. Stop with the negativity here because you just don't know. And like, I guess I've been through a few of those kinds of exercises before. I went to a weekend where we were up against all kinds of physical challenges that are just meant to test you mentally, emotionally like that. And I was feeling like I could have done any of those challenges. Whether I would have passed or failed, I don't know. But I wouldn't have been as weak-minded going into it Because I would have been the one saying, stop it. I remember a time when I was in college. We were going to do an exam, which two exams meant the whole grade of the year. So it was a lot of pressure. I studied really hard. It was Botany . I hated the class. Botany is not my element. This kid sits next to me in the hallway as we're preparing the last minute. I've got the Rocky soundtrack in my Walkman. And I'm listening to the eye of the tiger and I'm bouncing around like I'm ready to go in here because I needed to psych myself up. This kid sits next to me and he grabs my shoulder and he goes, and he's all shaking. And I said, get that off of me. And I brush my shoulder. That's true. One person can affect another person really quickly that way. And it puts you in a whole other state of mind. one of the things I wanted to share real quick um now um dr david you know uh you work in medical right yep okay so one of the doctor oh nice so one of the things that I've been I've done over the years I've got a library of books right I'm always looking to to add a new skill set to learn a new skill set right and Thirty years ago, I was a paramedic for two years. So and then it's been like thirty years. So it's like, OK, well, I remember, you know, how did you how to take a blood pressure? I remember doing CPR first aid. I remember a lot of other things, too. But it's like, what if? I got shot or somebody in my group got shot, right? Or what if they got a laceration? Okay, I'm trying to remember all the steps for, you know, how to take care of a laceration. So one of the things that I did was I decided, you know, it's better to have a book on hand and go, okay, well, here's a step-by-step guide and this is how you take care of it. And one thing I've learned is when we were living in our prior house, when we got flooded out, we had no utilities, right? So for the first six months we had, or I should say the first year we didn't have any electricity. And so I spent a lot of time just reading a lot of books rather than being on my phone or on my computer, you know? And so because we'd have to take it down to the car and charge everything up. And while I was charging, I would read, just read books. And I started collecting a lot of medical survival guidebooks because I always felt like, okay, I need to have some valuable information. So I'm not always going to remember everything. But I kind of wanted to share that with you because, you know, That's an important skill. It's one of the top skills. We've talked about that before, like to be able to take care of, you know, in a survival situation, you know, little tiny things, little cuts and lacerations can kill you, you know, if you don't take care of them properly. So it's good that somebody in the group has some medical training. Yeah, and that's another thing is taking an evaluation of the people you know around you and the skills and the expertise they have. Do you know somebody who's a nurse or a doctor that's in your area? Have you reached out to someone? And if you even don't know them, reach out to people, talk to them. You never know what you're going to find. And build your own network. But not just to save your own CYA thing. The thing that really surprises me when I've talked to people about this is how often they will say, I'm just going to take what I need from whatever I need it, wherever I need it and, and survive to which I'm like, I don't think that's a good plan. I'm just going to tell you right now. Way to get shot. If you approach this in a way that is how can I be the most helpful to the most amount of people? Number one, it's going to tell me that you're planning ahead of time. And you're not just thinking about me, me, me, me. Here comes the Toby Keith song. What about me? What about that song? It's like, what about a community minded thing so that, you know, this is unfortunate, but part of the brainwashing that we've had is take care of yourself. Just take care of yourself. You can do this. Let's all have a Rambo mentality. Well, guess what? That only works in the movies and it's a lie. And I'm not Rambo. be really very small ramble for ramble for camera. One of the things that I've learned, um, you know, when I was in the military and as a military contractor, you know, being in places in the third world, um, the, if you want, okay. So when you're, when you're in that bug off mode, right. And everybody is, everybody else is panicking. You have to leave your home. Um, This is one thing I tell a lot of my friends anyway. Go buy a book. It's called The Gray Man Theory. The reason being is because when you're doing a gray man theory is this. Number one. You're able to walk through a crowd of people without attracting attention to yourself, but you're observant of everything around you. Number two, you're not going to be carrying. The idea is that you don't want to be carrying hardly anything on you, okay? Just the basics essentials like I have with a get-to-home bag, right? So that's why you want to have a location already planned ahead of time, whether it's friends or family or maybe little, you know, one-acre or two-acre properties that you bought. um even if you buy a a place where a house is kind of been abandoned for years and years and it's kind of dilapidated that's a better you have a better chance of surviving there than you would uh trying to rough it out into the woods so to speak right um so go gray man right so you go in the gray man mode you're gonna dress like gray man mode uh one of the things I told my daughters is this you are no longer a girl you are a boy And the reason being is because when the world starts to panic, you're going to see a lot of bad people out there, a lot of bad elements, and they're going to be looking to do the utmost harm to the weakest members of society. You know, we had plans on how we were going to, all the girls were going to dress up to look more like a boy. It's just a really simple, easy steps, you know, with hats, hoodies, things that, you know, that kind of neutral colors, gray colors, a pretty neutral color. Same thing with your shoes and boots, you know. But the idea is that you're going to get from point A to point B as fast as you possibly can. without uh with with minimal amount of interruptions but you have to anticipate those interruptions you know at some point um and when you go through the mental exercise of it then you know I always tell people go back and watch some of these doomsday movies because there are some universal truths that come to a lot of those situations and so mentally you can prepare yourself but then go actually go out and go through that exercise. I mean, it's like some stupid exercise I've done before where I would dress down and go gray man mode and walk around downtown and see how many people recognize me. I actually did this one time. I put out on Facebook, all the people that follow me on Facebook, and I said, I'm going to go gray man downtown Freeport this afternoon. If you see me, snap a photo and upload it to Facebook. And the first person that does this, I'll give them fifty bucks. And I would go gray man mode and I would go and walk through the downtown area. And then by the time I got back home, there was not one person who got an actual photo of me. And it wasn't because they weren't paying attention because I know they follow my Facebook posts like crazy back then. Because I always did like these little stupid challenges and it kind of involved money that was kind of an incentive. And so people were kind of looking out for me and all trying to take pictures, but they would never get a full picture of me. um there's always kind of a top-down picture but just you can't tell that's really me because I'm in gray man mode so um but that kind of proves the point is you know go through the exercise and after a while uh you get more confident as you as you go along and do this um that's that's the best way that's a recipe for success you know but once you get to that whatever that location is and you've got that community uh and you're working with people um then that's a little different story but the the the point is that when people are bugging out they oftentimes think well I'm gonna grab all this stuff you know my like my wife she would say I'm gonna grab all my photo albums you know And I would say, oh, this is useless stuff. How about this? We'll duplicate everything. We'll put it in our locations. That way you have copies. Okay. So the idea is go absolutely nothing, nothing. I go gray mode, a gray man mode. And just, um, you know, just to get home, get your home bag. I've got my firearm. We're out the door. Um, Once we get to our location within less than thirty minutes, then we're right where we need to be. If that's not our permanent location, that's just a halfway point. And we're going to go to our next permanent location. This is where we're going to stop, reassess the situation, listen to communication. And then, you know, depending on the time of the day, too, because of this nightfall, you don't want to travel at nighttime. That is the most dangerous time to be out on the road or out in the woods is at nighttime because you can't see what's in front of you. And I know some guys that have these crazy night vision optics, you know, they have the helmets and the night vision. That's all great and dandy, but not everybody's going to have them, you know. So it's better to, you know, hunker down during night. Get up in the morning, take off to your next location once you're there, and then start setting up your security. That's number one. Once you get your layers of security put up, then you can start focusing on kind of getting back to normal, creatures of comfort kind of situation. I want to point out something you said earlier about when you leave home, expect that you may never come back there again. That's another aspect of the exercise that I think is probably really good, especially for kids. people start to get into a home a house is the home and that's the that's the one place in life that they're comfortable and the idea of a fire burning their house down is completely and utterly devastating versus well okay we can that's hard but we can manage dealing with that um those of us who have moved around from house to house to house in our lives, don't feel that type of deep emotional connection to a house. But for kids, that's, that's the one place they know of that's been safe. And if you're training them to think bigger, it'll be easier for them. If there is a time where you do need to leave, then they're not going to be panicking. I want this and I want that. You left my stuff, the animal. What if, what if, I need my bed no you don't I was like, Sergeant Mom, I would have told him, suck it up, buttercup, be glad you're alive. I hate to say this, but here's a book, My Side of the Mountain. Your point is a good point, but sometimes there's a toughness that's got to be addressed with children too. My Side of the Mountain was a book that I read to my kids when they were little. It's kind of an adventure of leaving everything And looking at it, changing your mindset to go out in the woods and making a dugout house and a tree and for shelter and such. Just, you know, to your point, it's... I don't think parents that pander to their kids are doing them any favors, I guess, you know, there comes a point in time where society is, is told us that to be a good parent, you know, you, you give into your kids and every little woman they want or else they're not good kids. And, and unfortunately, I think the best parents are, I hate to say it. It was like my dad, my dad, ex military man, he was like, there was no cutting anybody slack for anything. that dad energy. And now I think even going into this to remember that when our wonderful males around us bring on that toxic masculinity and do what God built you to do, because it's a beautiful thing to have a strong leader that doesn't cut anybody any slack and says, get up and move because you're gonna die if you don't, you know? Yeah, one of the things I did with my kids, In addition to them going to a public school system, I would teach them how to hunt, how to fish, survival skills. I was a different kind of dad. I always believed that parents are the primary responsible for kids' education, right? Then teachers are secondary. You know, our youngest kid, we ended up homeschooling her because the education system at the time, it was being run by Obama. It just didn't make any sense. Now, this is a book that I actually wrote and got published. And this is one of the best bestseller books that's out there as far as when it comes to survival. This actually talks about bugging in and bugging out. Not only the difference, but the chances are you're going to spend more time bugging in than you are going to be bugging out in most situations. Because you don't want to typically stay in your own neighborhood where you know your own people, your own neighbors. Because when you've got to start working with them to try to get through different complex situations, it's a lot easier. Yeah, this is another link. I'm putting the links up there that everybody's put in the private chat for everybody to see. Propranolol or Inderol is a drug that basically gets rid of all of the anxiety, the panic that some people could feel. Because I could see in a situation like this where we've been talking about it, we're prepared for it. But somebody that's completely unprepared, typically a young female, Could have a panic attack and, you know, you're trying to survive, but you have to deal with a family member or somebody that's with you that's having a panic attack is very difficult. A little Inderol just like completely would take that away. And it doesn't, unlike Valium, benzodiazepines and things that get you high, it does not affect your thinking at all. It just stops that rapid heart rate, you know, the sweating and a lot of, You know, it's, you know, musicians take it, public speakers, probably a lot of our, you know, people on TV, a lot of our politicians, so they could be cool under pressure. And it really does work. It allows you, you don't get any of that anxiety, rapid heart rate. So that's something, if you can get ahold of it, you know, it may be beneficial to have some. Is it by prescription? Yes. Yeah. It's always interesting looking at the different skill sets of everyone and the different focus that everyone kind of has on what they bring to the table for an emergency situation because it's all so different. And you get a complimentary group of people that know the different skills like that. It really is incredible rather than trying to just do it all yourself, you know. Everybody pray for a Karen that will come around and pick up the pieces after the Warriors go in front of her and decimate all nonsense out there, you know. I talked about before, like the scenario training that we had in American Red Cross. I was trained as an instructor as well as just the basic training. And the instructor we had was very good at setting up scenarios. So she had like a car going crooked in the parking lot and she put a baby in the bushes that she wouldn't see. And she would be an actress. She'd have ketchup on her and she would say, you know, she'd act like she was in a panic and she'd start screaming about my baby and you'd have to figure out what was going on. And maybe she was a diabetic. She had an accident. The baby went flying out the window and you have to find this stuff. Well, she said, okay, there's a scenario down the hallway. And as we, we started heading down the hallway, we had no idea what we were going to find. And all of a sudden I find myself alone with the rest of the pack behind me because they were so scared. They didn't even want to go into the room. Yeah. It was like, oh, okay. I guess, you know, I found that I might be braver in some situations than other people. And since then, I've had much more training that does prepare me more than a lot of other people. So like in an accident scene, I may be one of those people that goes, okay. Scene safety, number one. Number two, what kind of information can I gather together before I make this phone call to nine one one that I'm dialing in my hand right now? How can I do, you know, step by step by step going through the training so that I can keep myself and other people safe while helping during the situation. And later on, I can process the trauma where I've seen something that I might not remember. And, uh, that's, that's a whole other aspect of preparedness is recognizing signs of trauma and how to address that too, because it'll happen. So how do you address, you know, um, You were talking earlier, Karen, about all these movies. It's always somebody like freaking out. Of course, it's some Christian, you know, some Bible believer that gets everyone killed. That's the psyop on everybody. But like people that you're... Because that's what we do, David. Exactly. You're more... But... You know, I could see if you're traveling with a group of people or family members and one person is freaking out could cause other people to die. You know, it's like, you know, and drownings usually happen like that. You know, you dive in to save somebody and you end up getting killed. I think for me... How do you get... People focus, calm, relax. Anybody have any tips about how to do something like that? Well, from what I've seen in the movies, you slap them because that's the thing that always works. But really, I mean, a stern physical, like I said, it can go both ways. If you've got calm, firm hands. Think about, for example, autism. the the concept of autistics that like to be grabbed um turid rugas is it she the one that did the the cattle um she she's autistic but she learned how to make cattle shoots better so that they don't um panic when they're going into the slaughter process and so on So that she was one of the people who was able to teach people how to understand what autistics need in those scenarios. And dogs that panic, they have a vest. They make a bunch of money on these vests. They're called calming wraps or something like that, anxiety wraps. You wrap your arm around them, hold them firmly and calmly. Donna, you've had some experience with that. If you've got a firm grip and you tell them calmly and firmly, we have this under control, you might have to startle them a little bit to snap them out of the initial panic. But then if you let them know you're in control of something and you can handle it for them, it takes a weight off of their shoulders. Like think about what you would do with a little kid that's panicking and you just transport that into the adult mind state. Oh, that's great advice. Or something like that to interrupt that brain, that brain trauma, just a little bit, something to get their mind off of the, give them a pleasurable thing. And something you can use as kind of a dual purpose thing for that too, is that a lot of the weighted blankets are, that they have for autistic kids. A lot of those weighted blankets tend to be made from recycled lead from retired dental x-ray vests where they have exceeded their useful life for dental x-rays and so they use them as weights. Well, lead is also a a wonderful shielding material for radiation. So it might not be a bad idea to have one of those things around. It makes a great cup to drink out of. Just kidding. That's after you slap him, right? Well, I think in the movie, probably the romantic type would slap and then kiss. So that's the sweet thing besides sugar, I guess. Yeah. Let's go back to horse training, okay? I can tell you lots of different scenarios with horses, and it does depend on what their basic makeup is. And the same thing when you do conflict mediation, which I've done a ton of that in my life, where you bring people that are fighting together and get them talking, get them on the same side of the table and such. You have to find out exactly... What it is that started the whole problem. What is it? Are they going for domination? Are they scared of something? Usually for horses, there's only two things. They're either scared. Well, most of the time it's that they're scared. And people, it's the same way. You're seeing fear play out, but you see it play out in different areas. So, for example, we have one stallion and we had a horse trainer that was absolutely terrified of the stallion. Terrified. He's loud, he's mouthy, and he can be a real pain, okay? Absolutely drop-dead gorgeous, the stallion is, right? But mouthy and annoying, right? So the horse trainer was actually very afraid of him. So one day I just decided, all right, buddy, I'm done with this. You're done. And I went in the stall, and... And the trick with horses, get them to move their feet because you're establishing who's in control. The same thing with people a little bit. If you can get people to move their feet, they're all of a sudden it sets them off balance a little bit and you can get a hold of the control a little bit easier. OK, so I went in the stall and I was like, we're done with it and I'm done with it today. I went in there and I started jumping around like a crazy person. And then he's looking at me like, what the living hell? Seriously. And so I got him used to the, you know, not reacting and trying to kick me because he was trying to get away from my craziness at that point in time. So I just kept it up for a while and he kind of started decelerating just a little bit because he got used to it. And then I started jumping on him. I'm jumping on him. I'm like jumping on his back. I'm jumping on his neck and stuff. I'm just jumping around like a crazy person. And all of a sudden the horse looks, stops and he looks at me like, you're funny. And after that moment in time, The horse and I have been like best buds. Nobody else can get away with this with him except for me. And I have several horses that are like that with me. I am definitely their favorite because I am definitely the craziest person in the barn. Not afraid of them. A horse that outweighs me by I can't even tell you how much weight. And, um, and they, it established who was in control of the situation and it wasn't them because I wasn't going to give up on them until they decided to move their feet and stop with the nonsense and go ahead and kick me. It will end up poorly for you. And, uh, you know, just, just that kind of an attitude sometimes, but get around people, watch them when they're getting crazy. You know, I've got, oh my gosh, I've got so many stories of being the craziest person in the room and doing it intentionally to the point where my daughter is there laughing off to the side until she's got tears in her eyes. And sometimes just that, you know, That surprise, you know, it stops everything. In fact, I'll teach you something that's about corporate strategy marketing, what marketing people do. That's my background. Part of it, at any rate, is that if you want to get somebody's attention or change their mind or you're directing their attention, do something right off the bat that just shocks the hell out of them. I mean, and all of a sudden they have to stop. It's the same thing with horse training. Stop. And now they've got to reevaluate what they've seen around them. That's step two in the process is they're evaluating what's going on. And this is actually what a marketing person does. So when you see things, you'll see people do like something that's shock or they'll tie into emotional bent and such. You better hope that the people that do this have good intentions behind it because they study human beings and they know how people will react. Okay. So they're evaluating because you've just absolutely broken everything they think is normal in front of them. The third stage is they start making decisions and processing what they're seeing and putting it in some sort of order because now they feel really out of order or they've been made to feel a lacking or wanting something. That's what a marketing person will do. That's how they get us to buy product. And then the fourth stage is it is in their head and it is canonized. And it is almost impossible to break them out of that in that scenario. So, for example, if I was public speaking years ago and I knew it was going to be a tough group that's got all kinds of arrogance going and they're not open to new ideas. This sounds crazy, but I would go out and buy a whole bunch of glass vases and put it in a burlap bag. And I take it on a corporate table and just go, bam, before I say one word. Got their attention. You got the whole group going, what the hell? I didn't want to have their attention. And we kept going with it. Another time I was speaking in front of a church. And it was on, I was asked to speak for Mother's Day on a church. So I show up with a suit. I get up on the, nobody knew what I was going to do. Because I never let anybody know what I'm going to do. Because it's always whatever God wants me to say at the time. I literally get up on the, you know, by the stage up in front, whatever you want to call it. And I start taking clothes off. In the church. And the women in the church were sitting there and several of them were kind of like, oh, my gosh, you know, what what what is happening here? Well, I took my suit off and underneath it, I had a flannel shirt and jeans, took my shoes off and said, now it's time to get down to being real people about real things instead of all of this pretended nonsense that people are doing to put on. A mask or being what they really aren't. Why don't we just talk as people? And, you know, I broke a few eggs that day. I did some other things that were how the how the world works. And, you know, there's there's all these things that you have to remember when when people are in panic and everybody's in panic, almost everybody all the time. You know, you'll notice that the people that have a higher spiritual quotient are not in panic. And they're not afraid to speak out. They're not afraid to go against the, they have no fear of man. They, they're not afraid to piss everybody off and say all the bad words or the things that aren't allowable, even though everybody does it when they walk away from a public venue. You know, it's true. I've done that. I've done that. Um, We were talking about what would you do? I had a dog that was needing to do a training exercise and he made a mistake right off the bat because he was way too excited. He was just in a really strong high and he wasn't using his head. and I didn't know what he had missed but somebody else told me so I brought him back and I took hold of him I grabbed him by the scruff on each side of his face and looked him right in the eye and I I said something like knock it off and he just looked up at me like oh and I said get back to work use your nose because we were doing a scent exercise. And all of a sudden he's like, okay, game on. And he went right back at it. But that was where I think, so I'm not an expert. I'm no behavior expert. I'm no psychiatrist or psychologist and psychoanalyst, neurologist, any of that. But it worked for my dog. You know, got his face and said, stop, we're moving on. It is ten, get ahold of yourself. And I have to go because I've got a, I got a long, a long trip ahead of me today. Cause I'm going to something tonight. And so I need to get ready to go, but I've got, I've got all the links that you put up there, Sean, and we can go through some of them very quickly. I know that this is one organization that you believe in. And so training instructors and such as BSOs and the survival gear. And so we need to retouch on this again, and I'm supposed to be gone next week, though I don't know if I'm going yet or not, because there's certain security clearances that have to happen. So we're going to plan on next week and we'll see what happens because I'm still in the dark about this and where I'm supposed to be. But let's go through this again and do Friday again. And newest member of the team, Sean Starry, we love you here. This is awesome. He's the star. Yes. A star, the starriest of stars. And, and let's, let's go ahead and do this again next, next Friday. If I have to change, I'll let everybody know. And there's, I think there's going to be some big surprises this in the next week. And then the biggest, the biggest surprises, I think that if we make it to the XIX before something catastrophic happens or some things that, We don't know. I'm actually going to be fairly surprised, but if, you know, it's going to be a bumpy ride. There's no two ways about it. And so, you know, y'all have my number and you know how to get ahold of me, six one six four three zero four four one zero. And I can connect you with a lot of people. My contact list is something that people would, you know, Probably kill for, you know. And so that's okay. Nobody can kill me. The only one that's going to end my life is God Almighty. I'm already at peace with that. And then I get to go home. Woo-hoo. Surprise. Donna, there's going to be a snowstorm today, so be careful driving. Okay. Have your survival gear. Survival gear and a really good pickup with good tires on it. There you go. You have to be pulling those people with their stilettos on that don't know how to run for Michigan. We're in Michigan, people. So at any rate, last words I'm going to give you each. Please hold to it. Thirty seconds. Karen, David, Sean and Ralph. Oh, just a reminder that we act out of trust and hope and love and kindness and joy and faith and not fear. David. stay prepared, you know, this is the final week, you know, that we thought something would happen. So just be prepared. Sean. Yeah, I think it's important that You know, you keep your wits about you, you know, be very observational of your surroundings and, you know, teach yourself a bunch of different skill sets, books, survival books, different things that you can utilize. Ralph. Never prepare out of fear. Always prepare out of courage and know the people that know the people around you that have the skills you don't. There you go. And figure out who the warriors are around you and make sure that you're ready to pick up the carnage when they're done. Because it's a good thing to have those warriors around you that are not going to negotiate with terrorists, traitors, liars, cheats, and thieves. And there's quite a few warriors around us. I'm just saying right there. So let's say a quick prayer and then we're going to go on to our day. Dear Heavenly Father, thank you so much for everyone here, Karen, David. Ralph and Sean and for all the many people and patriots out there and your children who love you so very much and are here, not for ourselves, but to serve you here in whatever capacity that you ask us. It doesn't matter what you ask us to do. We are willing to follow you. We're willing to do what you ask us to do. It's your world, your sandbox. And we're here to honor you and to serve you in it because we're on a work visa here from you. We're definitely on a work visa. And so we're here to work. Just tell us what you need done. Thank you so much for the stay and all that you've given us. You're amazing. It's amazing how you provide for us and that you lead us through things, even difficult paths, in order to make substantial changes, to restore things that were broken, and to honor and glorify you in everything that that you've done. It's just, you're amazing. And thank you. Thank you for everything. In the name of Jesus Christ, we pray. Amen. So there you go, boys and girls go to, uh, brandenburgforgovernment.com because I'm the best non-conceited who's ever not conceded in the history of the United States of America. And I'd like to talk to the rightful president of the United States, president Donald J. Trump about this in cowboy boots. We'll see who wears it better. So, uh, uh, with that said, everybody, God bless you all. Where's Karen with her heart hands? Ding, ding, ding, ding, ding with heart hands. She agrees. God bless you all. God bless all those whom you love and God bless America. Make it a great day. It starts here. Mentally prepare. Start praying and asking God for answers because he will always give it to us. He will never leave us nor forsake us. And prepare your mind, your heart, and perhaps even your surroundings. And we will see you Monday. I'm not sure who's going to be on for certain. It'll be Vicki Davis with the technocratic communism, technocratic tyranny going through all of the treaties and such that they've used and their pretended laws in a pretended government structure who has usurped The rightful structure, as we the people sitting on top, we're the boss. They are, in fact, not. We do not coronate kings. I could talk about this for a long time right now because I actually wrote a letter to President Trump yesterday. You know what? I'm going to say it. I'm going to say it right now. I am a little annoyed right now with the inauguration. I'm going to say it right now. I think he should get inaugurated on Air Force One, fly around for a little while in a safe place and not put himself, his family, anybody else on the ground at jeopardy. This is a bad decision. It's way too much money going into this of taxpayers money. And it feels like the coronation of a king. We're done with this. And I think that we really need to do what's in the best interest of the United States of America, which is a quiet private ceremony to, in fact, ensure the safety of President Trump. And any of those people that need to have all the pomp and circumstances are probably they are probably big donors. that are that are being thanked for it and I'd like to call to all those people that have these events out out there let's call them all off call them all off and take the money that people have donated or paid to that and put it back into the united states of america into the people of america who are struggling and hurting right now I'm disgusted with the whole thing And there you go. I said it publicly. I feel that way. And all the donations, if we can't all go and participate, then nobody should. I agree. so I stand with every single american out there I don't care how you package yourself I don't care what you think you are or labels that you've given yourself we stand together as one american family and what's good for one person needs to be good for all for everyone not pay for access not pay for all of this stuff and I'm and this is Mainly going out to those donors and the big donors that have participated in this that have been part of the problem. It's time to call a full stop. Yeah. I'm sick of the billionaires becoming our politicians. Which I am not, by the way, which I was billed as. Thank you to the Gateway Pundit who lied. And you didn't get a position. I didn't get a position. You didn't buy yourself a position in the Trump administration. I haven't got a position in anything. I got a position in BNN right now. And so, you know, I've been brutally attacked. So there you go. You know, it's the way it is. I'm Donna Brandenburg, the nobody, the absolute nobody part of we the people. Comfy as hell sitting right here. I'm comfy. Maybe that's the wrong word to use, but I'm comfortable sitting right here with we the people doing we the people things, taking back the nation the way it's supposed to be with each and every one of us. being you know being equal yeah there you go and we'll see you monday and we're going to continue on this little ornery stream of I'm sick of the okay and I'm calling it out there we go more than thirty seconds if she wants it yeah there you go I guess because it's like I got the button like president trump and mine works All right, stand in line, guys, and we'll see the rest of you guys Monday. Wish you could see the conversation after we get off. It's going to be quick, though.