Published Sept. 3, 2025, 9:02 a.m.
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Good morning and welcome to Brandenburg News Network. I am Donna Brandenburg and it is the third day of September, twenty twenty five. And welcome to the show today. We're going to start right out with Liberty Essentials and then we're going to go into notices a little bit later with with Greg at ten o'clock. And man, it was like a power packed morning this morning for me already. And I got to tell you, last night, I think we're going to be talking about the court systems a little bit today. Last night, I ended up having a meeting and great. I'm starting out with a great good hair day today. That's all right. It is real. Anyhow, I met with legal counsel last night, which was really interesting. And I think that we're going to be seeing some things getting real, real quick here. And I'm not going to elaborate on it anymore for right now. But just know that there's a lot going on. There's a reason why we need to attack bad guys from a lot of different angles. Because unfortunately, a lot of the times we all think that we've got the answer to everything. And when it really comes down to is when we all work together. and we do what it is that God puts into our heart, it kind of works good. It works like the body of Christ, which is what it's supposed to do. So let's go right in and bring everybody in. How are you guys doing today? Great. Wonderful. Awesome. I'm trying to run in here. What's that? I said better than yesterday. Yeah. You know, I've had this discussion with Ralph a few times where often I have these great biblical discussions and how, how we really should be running our lives differently than what the norm is. And one of the things that he said that I think is really wise is that we should actually look back at ourselves yesterday, every single day and go, oh man, I wish I would have changed this or I learned something and kind of be both happy for the new day to start over again and horrified at what the day was like yesterday. And I think that's the process really of being a Christian. It's not that we have everything figured out. It's that, A, we're forgiven when we do things wrong. And then also to be able to improve and see the improvements and celebrate the fact that we are changing and that we're transforming into the likeness of Christ. And that is important. That is something to really celebrate every day. We can get up, we can do this thing again. We can learn to be better. We can help other people. And, uh, it's sort of like, you know, the diamond in the rough, you gotta kind of chip away some of the, some of the rough spots. And then all of a sudden it, it, it gleams. Yeah. Sanctification is a lifelong process. Doesn't happen overnight. Yeah. So, so this is, I saw that you, the twenty year silver and gold graph, I've been, I've been looking at that too, Greg. Actually, if you put that, I don't, I don't know about in the chat if we can put it on there, but you know what, I know what I can do. I can put those on, on my telegram channel because you, you sent them to me this morning. So let's go ahead and I will put that up and we'll bring that in a little bit. How's that? That's great. Okay. So what are we talking about today, Bill? Well, I was going through a little bit more of David Barton's work, and I landed this week on some of the issues regarding our court system. Everybody understands that the court system is not upholding justice, right? Let's see if I get this right. I got to get the right one. Here we go. Ta-da! Ta-da! Anyhow, go ahead. Oh, Bill's gone. Where did Bill go? I don't think I clicked him off. No. He was so quiet all of a sudden. Yeah, all of a sudden you were gone, and it was like, wow, that's amazing. So I was showing everybody. Ta-da. So you know those fancy office keyboards that have all the buttons across the top, you know, quick access buttons? yeah well there's one that has a little picture of a house right apparently if you push that it takes you back to your home page on your internet browser yeah So don't push that while you're talking. And that's kind of what happened, wasn't it? That's exactly what happened. I'm glad to know that because yesterday they were messing with the Internet for me. And I was talking with Mike and Mike, who has no last name anymore. And we were talking and all of a sudden at the end of the show, it just went. He's like, all of a sudden you weren't there. And so it took me a minute and we had no Internet connection for some reason when we've got one of the best Internet connections on the planet. And all of a sudden it was like, poof, we were gone. So it's good to know that, that in fact, We're back. So go ahead and let's move on here. So this court system that we see today is obviously not promoting justice. It's not holding itself within the confines of the law to ensure domestic tranquility, right? In fact, it is one of the creators of chaos we see in society. The justice is what guards our liberty. Without it, we have basic anarchy, or at best, an oligarchy that's determining by a small group of people what is right and wrong among the masses. It was never intended to be this way. The founding fathers did not grant us that. We are still a republic if the people are willing to hold to it. The people are the enforcers of the law. The government is merely there to protect three things, life, liberty, and property. And we've delegated specific duties to them as to how to do that. Basics of freedom here, class one-on-one. So I was going through this book David Barton wrote. It's called Original Intent. And I've skimmed through it here and there, and then I've picked apart certain chapters that I find really interesting. And one of which, he says, a changing standard towards a new constitution. It presents the thought to everyone reading as to how did we get where we're at? What are some of the specifics as to how we got here? and one of which in this chapter alone is only dealing with the court system. The court system has reinterpreted what the original intent of the Constitution was, that the people gave the government, that created the government, and thus are able to... to reinterpret law by what they call case law, right? A ton of conservatives and patriots, or whatever you want to call them, they use the term case law all the time. There is no such thing as case law. There can be precedents set, but the law still stands, right? Well, they're creating law. They're creating law through the court system. And that's what's so wrong about it. And then they're basing their decision on the last decision that was made. And that was the job of the legislature, not the judicial system. And then we don't even have real judges because in Michigan, none of them have a license to practice law, which means that they really have failed the constitutional test and that they're not real judges. They're just administrators. Yeah, exactly. So I just want to read a couple pages out of this book a minute. And I think that's going to open up a huge discussion, one of which that I've been promoting locally for a while. He starts out by saying, the founders' biblical natural law philosophy remained the unquestioned standard for law and government until the turn of this century. At that time, a different philosophy was beginning to gain strength among judges and educators. By the mid-twentieth century, this competing philosophy, often termed relativism or pragmatism, had become mainstream in a number of academic circles. disciplines. The encyclopedia describes the basic tenets of relativism as views are to be evaluated relative to the societies or cultures in which they appear and are not to be judged true or false or good or bad based on some overall criterion, but are to be asserted within the context in which they occur. Thus, what is right or good to be true to one person or group may not be considered to be by others. There are no absolute standards, it says. Man is the measure of all things, and each man can be his own measure. Sounds like lawlessness to me is what it does. Sounds like trying to make themselves into little gods is what they're doing, and there's no standards, so anything goes. Yep. Well, when you take God out of the picture, you don't have the measure of the, perfection of christ exactly you remove the lawgiver now law is relative it says cannibalism incest and other practices considered taboo are just variant kinds of behavior and you can add a whole list of that to be appreciate appreciated as acceptable in some cultures and not in others relativism urges suspension of judgment about right and wrong When applied in law, relativism, or called legal positivism, according to constitutional scholar and law professor John Edsmo, this philosophy is characterized by the following five major theses. One, there is no objective God-given standards of law, or if there are, they are irrelevant to the modern legal system. Two, since God is not the author of law, the author of law must be man. In other words, the law is law simply because the highest human authority, the state, has said it is law and is able to back it up. Number three, since man and society evolve, therefore law must also evolve. Four, judges, through their decisions, guide the evolution of law. And five, the study law, get at the original sources of law, the decisions of the judges. Isn't that interesting? Yeah, and it's like, what do you do? You put that in the hand of fallible men and women. And the problem is that, you know, like we're human, we're fallible. You can't just say one person, we're going to put the hands of the world in a human being's hand because we'll screw it up. Every time. Yep, absolutely. That's why we have to have standards. There has to be some sort of moral standard that is above mankind. Elsewise, everybody falls to anarchy because there is no right and wrong. He goes on to say this philosophy, positivism, was introduced in the Langdell reasoned that since man evolved, then his laws must also evolve, and judges should guide both the evolution of the law and the Constitution. Consequently, Langelt introduced the case law method under which students would study judges' decisions rather than the Constitution. Under the case law approach, history, precedent, and the views and beliefs of the founders not only became irrelevant, they were even considered hindrances to the successful evolution of a society. As explained by leading relativist John Dewey, the belief in political fixity of the sanctity of some form of state consecrated by the efforts of our fathers and hollowed by tradition is one of the stumbling blocks in the way of orderly and directed change. Langdell's case law approach was gradually embraced by other law schools, and the result was a diminishing belief in absolutes. In fact, within a few short years, by the thirties, Blackstone's commentary on the law had been widely discarded. Blackstone was deemed to present an outdated approach to law since it taught that certain rights and wrongs, particularly those relevant to human behavior, did not change. Roscoe Pound said, strongly encouraged positivistic philosophy introduced by Langdell. As a prominent twentieth-century legal educator, Pound helped institutionalize positivism. Having served as a professor at four different law schools and as dean of the law schools at Harvard and at the University of Nebraska, his influence was considerable and his vision for law was clear. He said, we have the same task and jurisprudence that has been achieved in philosophy, in the natural sciences, and in politics. We have to rid ourselves of this sort of legality and to attain a pragmatic or evolutionary sociological legal science. According to Pound, no longer should it be the mission of jurisprudence to focus on a narrow field of legal interpretation. The goal should be to become a sociological force to influence and development of society. The effects of those teachings by Langdell and Pound and others like them had a direct effect on the Supreme Court. As individuals who embrace this philosophy were gradually appointed to the court. Such like Oliver Wendell Holmes, appointed to the Supreme Court in nineteen oh two, explained that original intent precedent held little value. He said the justification of a law for us cannot be found in the fact that our fathers have always followed it. It must be found in some help which the law brings toward reaching a social end. Consequently, during his three decades on the court, how does a man like that serve three decades on the court? I need to ask. Holmes argued that decisions should not be based upon natural law and its fixed standards, but rather the felt necessities of the time. The prevalent moral and political theories for the prejudices which judges share with their fellow men have had a good deal more to do than the syllogism or legal reasoning process in determining the rules by which men should be governed. Louis Brandes, who served on the court for twenty three years following his nineteen sixteen appointment, also urged the court to break new ground and lead society in new directions. In one case, New York State Ice Company versus Liebman in nineteen thirty two, he declared, if we would guide by light of reason, we must let our minds be bold. Benjamin Cardozo, appointed to the Supreme Court in nineteen thirty two, openly refused to be bound by any concept of transcendent laws or fixed right and wrong. If there is any law, he says, which is back of the sovereignty of the state and superior thereto, it is not law in such a sense as to concern the judge or lawyer, however much it concerns the statesman or the moralist. Like many of his predecessors, Cardozo also encouraged the court to eliminate the use of its foundational precedents. He even condoned the prospect of the court departing from its traditional role and instead assuming the function of a lawmaker. As he explained, I take judge-made law as one of the existing realities of life. Now, these are Supreme Court justices, right? I'm sorry. I said that wrong. Supreme Court injustices, right? He says, reflective of the same philosophy, Charles Evans Hughes, the court's chief justice from nineteen thirty to nineteen forty one, declared that we are under a constitution. Amen. But the Constitution is what the judges say it is. Bold, bold statement. That man should have been tarred and feathered right out of the Supreme Court. Although prominent educators and individual justices faithfully endeavored to advance this philosophy in the first half of the century, it was not until the late forties that their movement had gained the sufficiently widespread number of adherents to produce radical societal change. The overall change in direction was especially visible after fifty-three when Earl Warren became Chief Justice of the Court. Warren's words in Trout v. Duels in fifty eight foreshadowed what soon to be what soon to become standard practice in American jurisprudence. He said the constitutional amendment must draw its meaning from the evolving standards of decency that mark the progress of a maturing society. Anybody who has been involved in politics and the study of how the implementation of a new society or a new order is being pushed, right? That statement right there contains about every word that makes me cringe. Can you say it over again? The constitutional amendment must draw its meaning from the evolving standards of decency that mark the progress of a maturing society. No, and here you go. You go back to progress, progressiveness, all this nonsense, and it's not. It is not at all progress. It's ways for people to be more selfish, self-centered and me, me, me, me, me mentality. You know, that's something that I think needs to be really pondered, you know. I look at the people in Byron Township here that have broken the law and gone after our water, the water rights. There are over a billion gallons of water that they have literally flushed out of this area. I mean, but guess what? A majority of them, well, almost all of them are builders, developers, and assessors or appraisers. But they moved out of Byron Township, and they've got nice little houses out on the hills on the periphery. And when you look at people who are truly following God, it's like Jesus. Jesus went into people's homes. He went, you know, God comes to dwell among us. He doesn't go to sit himself up on a hill somewhere. He could, but he chose not to. And, you know, you look at the people who are in power right now, and that's all they're doing is they're building these little palaces for themselves. for underlings to be separate. And it's evolving. They think it's progressive, but it's only progressive for them in their worship of the material world. And that's been the big thing. Dividing society is a necessity to push in a socialist mindset. Because you have to get rid of the so-called middle class, what they call us people. You have to get rid of the people who are self-sufficient and understand how to actually survive without the necessity of being wealthy. If you get rid of them, all you have left is the wealthy and the poor. And you can easily divide society in that manner. And you can take from the wealthy and give a little bit to the poor and never make their lives any better. And there you have a socialist mindset where nobody really owns anything, but for the greater common good, we have to help these people. Well, why are a lot of those people in that position? It's a lot of these government systems that have created dependency and have kept them there so they can't get up and get out. The prison system is a huge one. We have a majority, I don't know what it is, somewhere in that percentage rate, of repeat criminals into the prison system. Why is that? Isn't prison supposed to be where the punishment for a crime takes place? As in, once your punishment is done, you return back to be a civilized person in society? Or is it being used just as a holding cell to destroy somebody's lives, take everything that they have, and then release them back into society with almost nothing? Except a mental illness. Yeah, and make them reliant on the government systems to try to get back on their feet, which rarely ever happens. Well, they don't get back on their feet. They just get, as you said, more dependent. There, there is no getting out of their prison. Their prison is the prison is an end game of death and destruction. Yeah, I mean, look back at the Founding Fathers era. And I don't know, we skip across the prison system here a minute, skip a stone across it. But look at the Founding Fathers era. What did they have? They had prisons for heavy, heavy criminals, right? Those not quite worthy of death, but worthy to be put away for a long time. But in the local societies, they didn't have prisons. They had holding cells. And the community who were the lawful executors of the law, they would judge an individual out of their own community, somebody that they knew by a jury of their peers, not strangers, and they would hold them temporarily if accused on a crime based on a witness, serve the warrant, and then they would try them right then and there and judgment would be swift. They bring the hammer down right then and there as a warning to the rest of the community, don't do this. This is the consequence of your action. And Bill, I think you said something there that's absolutely critical to go back to, and that is you had a victim. And back then, that is absolutely key to our republic. Now we have fifty two million lawsuits a year, and many of those are the state is the victim, the state, not a true victim. And they can take your life, liberty and property with the person that is supposed to be there to protect your life, liberty and property without a victim. Right now, the only way to get to one of those courts in America is to file in a federal district court and an Article three true judicial historical court where you can file on behalf of you and demand to produce the victim produce, you know, through a writ of habeas corpus or writ of mandamus, either one, a victim, because there is no victim in ninety percent of cases anymore. It is the state exercising their power and control over the people. Because back when you read in eighteen sixty eight or whenever it was that Harvard switched, They literally instituted an entirely new system and converted those courts in nineteen forty six with their judicial act that instituted the rules of civil and criminal procedure, which allowed the state to now be the victim. And it's we have to go back and educate ourselves on that history in order to be able to understand why we're at the situation we're in because most of us didn't focus on this I'm not an attorney I'm not a lawyer I didn't focus on what they did to us I I believe that our elected officials were there to benefit and protect my rights they did exactly the opposite of that and they were very patient to gain total control and it really you know it started you know, a hundred plus years ago. And it's okay because we still have a constitutional Republic underneath. We just have to know what that means and how to get our rights protected again and get rid of this, this craziness that we have of power from these state judges that are legislative courts. They're not judicial courts. They are legislative courts. And they were all changed and we can go back in history and identify exactly when they were converted. And we have to get remedy as we, the people through grand juries, which obviously is key for us to regain control of, which we're working on. But again, all of us that are in this fight have to know and understand how we're going to get that remedy and and obviously I encourage people to go back and listen to donna's um podcast from yesterday because I think Mike did a good job of letting people know. There's so many of us out there that are fighting this and figuring this thing out. And I think that there's the part that has to go along with it. Because if we go at this as trying to fix things, even from, say, the process that should be there, we as human beings will worship that process. And that's a real danger if we don't think about it. I mean, all of us are subject to this. None of us is any different. We're all flawed. We are flawed. And so if we don't approach things and have God in the midst of everything we're doing, it's like God says, pray without ceasing. There's a reason for that because it's like, oh, shiny things and we're off and running, right? And so the underlying point to this is, is that no matter what's in our hands, human beings have a way of turning it to crap. It's just like the government, right? We may have the best of intentions, but a distraction will come and all of a sudden things go poorly. It's just like training horses. It's the same thing. They can be doing great and all of a sudden something will get their attention. It's usually motivated by fear or survival. And so when we can get past those two things, fear and survival, we can put our trust in God and we're more likely to stay on that straight path. But, you know, going back to the court system, one of the reasons why I wanted to get in and fight things pro se and get into the court systems is I wanted to understand the process. And how things are wrong. But I also think that with all the surveillance, the surveillance state that's out there, good people that are focused on God can pick up a weapon that's used towards taking us down and use that weapon against the bad guys. It's all in the intention of the heart and that sort of thing. But there are some rules and laws that are not and cannot be bent. And that's the truth of God. And that's his underlying principles. But we have to always, always check ourselves and go back to that or guaranteed if we don't, we will go down the same path and grabbing by ego, grabbing power and authority and subverting others. Can't do it apart from God. Go ahead, Karen. I want to touch on something that Greg said. He was saying from a past perspective, Well, I'm not an attorney. And I know Greg right now, you would probably think that's actually an advantage. I want people to change their perspective because, as Donna was pointing out, fear is being used against us. We have got to get out of this idea that attorneys are the advisors who are the be-all and end-all. Donna says she may take advantage of the use of an attorney, but she's going to learn from them how this system works and Currently versus how it should be working. And she's wise enough to know the difference. But like I saw in Byron Township. They're so afraid because. Their attorney is telling them one thing. And the people are telling them another thing. But they think that the attorney is the wisest. No. The strength is in the people who do not have the education. Quote unquote. That the attorneys have. Because they've been educated poorly. It's indoctrination, Karen. They're indoctrinated. And you'll notice that when I got up and basically, you know, I both told the sheriffs their rights. I put them on notice right there and they backed down. And it was kind of interesting. But so did the attorney. And that attorney had fear in his eyes when we started speaking truth. Did you notice he squirmed in his chair like that, like Jonathan Brader did at the Bureau of Elections? When you know the truth and you're not afraid to speak it, speak it with the power and authority of the fact that the truth literally is backed by God Almighty. You don't have to be afraid. But you do have to speak up there with authority and watch them run. When you speak truth, evil runs for the shadows because in their hearts, once they see the truth, they know it. They know the truth. And they've got no recourse to that. But that's something we have to learn. And like I've said every time, because Tim Newhouse is an attorney, Dave Jurassic is an attorney, and Dave Jurassic is the city attorney. And I've laid it out in front of him all the time. I said, have you told the people about the fraud that you've committed upon this township in the nation? Because there is no such thing as a licensed attorney. Have you told people that? They sit back in their chairs and they're ashamed. They're like, not one of you has a law license. It doesn't exist. You pull out your little country club membership card and snow everybody under and have everybody paying you the big prices. However, there are a few really good attorneys. And I met with one last night who's already done work for me in the past, could give a crap about money. He's like me, he's in it for blood and justice. Because there are ways of doing it. And I don't mean grab your torches and pitchforks. I mean, grab the law and absolutely torch them with it. We've got it on our side. So there's a good maxim that Greg kind of touched on there, where there is no victim, there is no crime. And Greg, you even mentioned it. The state cannot be a victim because the state is a creature of the people. And anytime the state would accuse an individual, they accuse the corporatized person, but the way we have to look at it, anytime they would accuse an individual, you have the right to meet your accuser. Well, show me the state. Right. Force the state to accuse me of something. Who is the state? They don't exist. They are merely a creature without the people. They don't exist at all. Right. Well, what I saw here with Eagle and everything else with the destruction of the wetlands. There was no oversight. And the gal from Eagle had the gall to tell me, because I called the FBI. I called Eagle. I called the Drain Commission. I called the Army Corps of Engineers. I was on the phone with the health department. Every single one of these people is covering for this. Because they're not there to oversee it. They're literally covering this up. And the people from Eagle, the gal I talked to at Eagle, you know what she said? Well, I need more information. I said, well, this is where it is. This is what's happening. Well, I need more information. I'm like, this is your job. This is not my job. I can report it. And I'm like, don't you think you should get on the ground and see what's going on instead of trying to put me to work? They did the same thing during COVID when they were all covering. They wanted the businesses to be their enforcement arm of the state. Who is the state? You can't get to anyone to face your accuser. to your point, because they play this little round robin thing. And you can talk to this person who talks to this person, send you around to the next person. You never get anybody who's responsible for anything. Well, and Karen and Donna, I'm not sure about Greg, but I know Karen and Donna for sure should know where that came from. Hell. Hell itself. No, no, no, no, no. The phrase, the maxim that where there is no victim, there is no crime. And that's why we have the right to meet our accusers. That came straight out of the Torah. Right? Straight out of God's word is where the founders got those ideas. Because... If somebody was willing to accuse somebody of a crime, who was the responsible party for taking the first steps in action in justice? It was the accuser. They had to throw the first stone. That's the importance of the duty of the people to enforce the law. So I want to finish this out, and then I'll finish that thought. He goes on at the end to say, the people alone have an incontestable, unalienable, and indefeasible right to institute government and to reform, alter, or totally change, my words, abolish, the same with their protection. When their protection, safety, prosperity, and happiness require it. The federal Constitution, according to the mode prescribed therein, has already undergone such amendments and several parts of it, as from experience, has been judged necessary. Now also, we must add that it's also undergone amendments illegally, without being properly ratified in there as well. George Washington said in his farewell address, he warned America to adhere strictly to the manner of changing the meaning of the Constitution. Samuel Adams said it too early in the days of the Revolution, how strangely a tyrant will pervert the plain meaning of words. This is how they get away with things. George Washington said, if in the opinion of the people, the distribution or the modification of the constitutional powers be in any particular wrong, let it be corrected by an amendment in the way which the Constitution designates. But let there be no change by usurpation, For through this in one instance may be the instrument of good, it is the customary weapon by which free governments are destroyed. For the greater good, they say. The real danger of positivism rests not in the fact that societal corrections are needed, but rather in the fact that they are made by unelected justices, individuals whose personal values not only often do not reflect those of we the people, but who are virtually unaccountable to the people. If change or societal evolution is not directed by the people themselves, then our form of government becomes what Jefferson termed an oligarchy. And as Washington pointed out, it's a customary weapon by which free governments are destroyed. If the evolution of society still rests in the hands of the people as originally intended, then America today would still retain much of what courts have struck down over recent decades. For example, national polls regularly show that some three-fourths of the nation approve of voluntary school prayer. Four-fifths of the nation oppose homosexual behavior. Nine-tenths oppose the use of abortion as a means of convenient birth control. And similar numbers are recorded on numerous other issues. Very simply, the allegedly evolving values of the nation have not been reflected in the court's evolution of the Constitution. The people are the rightful interpreters of their own Constitution. We have allowed for too long the courts to narrow-mindedly change all these little words and redefine them. Just because we have a new dictionary doesn't mean that that meaning of the word changed in our constitution. It was written at a specific time, a specific place, for a specific event. They have the duty to keep those intentions as they were written. not to evolve the Constitution as a mere living document according to societal cultures. And let me say this too, culture, everything we see out there today, culture is the church's report card. What happens out there directly reflects on what these so-called Christians are doing within their own buildings. If it didn't happen there, it wouldn't be happening where we can see it publicly. That is a huge issue. So when I talk about courts, here's one thing that I've been going after. I'm okay abolishing a lot of these, well, probably all of the state courts. Leave some of the district courts as necessary. I'm even okay with a revolving circuit court judge. We can go back to that. But bring your court systems down to the most local level you can within your own community. Now, I have to say farther, you can't do that unless you can properly judge within your own circles, right? Even your own churches. This is one thing I've been a huge proponent of in the last several assemblies that I've attended is that No less than Paul was describing to the New Testament churches. Why is it that we take each other and go to law in front of heathen? In front of wicked men who don't even understand the law. Why do we take each other and go in front of law? Can we not handle our own judgments within our own church houses? Now, let me take it one step farther. Why can't we do that? We can't get justice at the federal or state level. Or very rarely. We can't seem to properly judge within our own communities, but rather we go in front of the state to handle our local issues. We're not getting proper judgment within our own church houses, or very few of them. So what's the next level? Let's bring it right down to the family level. What are we doing in our own families? The letter to Timothy clearly states that those who provide not for their own have denied the faith and are worse than an infidel. Why is it that we can't make righteous judgments and proper justice among our own family members? Let me give you an example. One thing that I've done and have been working on, I don't have it perfected yet because I probably never will. But one thing that I've been working on in my own household, we establish our own justice court system basically within our own household. I don't preside over it as a tyrant judge. I am merely a magistrate. I'm the administrator. My children are starting to understand the process in which they have to take necessary steps if they're going to accuse one another of something not being done. They all have chores. Children should have chores. It builds them up. It builds character. It teaches them how to be responsible adults. And my children like to accuse each other, you know, you didn't do your chore here, you need to get this done. All the while they have one left undone as well, right? What do we call that? We call that hypocrisy. But that opens up a very brief, simple court system in my home to say, well, wait a minute, you're accusing them of this. You show me the evidence of it. Show me how it affects what you're doing. And let's hear the case. And then all the children are able to look at that and say, yep, you didn't get this done. Here's what needs to happen. Takes a lot of burden off me, especially, but I just preside over it. I think that's so powerful because that is the Constitution. That is your children being the judge of the facts of the situation and most importantly, the law. And that's what they did. They split it. They split it in in eighteen seventy one. They separated the facts from the law and they let the judge decide the law and the jury decide the facts. You brought it back together. And that is what a constitution is. We've overlaid this new constitution on each and every state. And it's what I think Trump is trying to bring back with federalizing the National Guard in DC. He's trying to eliminate this home rule where we've created this new system where the state can be the victim. The state cannot be the victim if you stand on your rights. But if you're going to stand on your privileges that they granted you, then the state can be the victim. And you're going to be railroaded all the way through the system straight to prison. And it is, we need to go back and teach that civics that you just spoke of with your children. We need to teach that to adults because we weren't taught it. I wasn't taught it. I didn't know what you just said until the last five years of my life. That's pretty pathetic at the age of sixty three. I mean, you would think. That I would have been taught that somewhere along the way with a college education and many years in the professional world. And dealing with lawsuits. Never knew that. Never understood that. I mean, all these cases. And there is a place for these, what I call maritime courts. People call them different things. There's a place for them. And that is for our elected officials. to protect my rights with corporations that get to be too powerful. And that's what the law was supposed to be for, not being applied to us as living men and women. But now no court, no state court will tell you what jurisdiction they are adjudicating. they ignore that little fact why because they want to streamline you to these rules of criminal and civil procedure that apply to statute the minute you say the word statute or code or act the minute you say those words you know you are in a legislative court and not a judicial court and the only court that can adjudicate against a living man is a judicial court. That's the way our Constitution was set up. The problem is, up until we just filed a writ of mandamus in a federal Article III court, it's the first time in our case that they allowed us to file that. It's basically a lawsuit against the judge, against the district attorney, against the sheriff, But that writ of mandamus is a lawsuit against those individuals. And that court allowed us to file sui juris in my Christian name. And I'm speaking of my friend's case in Indiana. But that's because that is an Article III judicial court. We have eliminated ninety percent of those. Judge Gorsuch said this well in his book, Overruled. You've got a ninety plus percent probability against showing up in a courtroom and having a he called him a fake magistrate. I mean, that magistrate is deciding the law against you. You have no chance of winning. You know, I'm going to bring something up here because what I saw with doing the pro se cases that I put out there, I don't think that the judges are even seeing the majority of these cases. I really don't. I think that where we really need to be looking at is the clerks. Because the notice comes in, the clerks are the ones that are really deciding everything. And when I look at how my one case or my one TRO was denied, it just had the word denied circled and initials on it. There was no signature from the judge. And so I, and then I asked for clarification and I filed for clarification. Nothing came back because I think that clerk was like, Oh, we're in trouble because I don't think the judge even saw it. And I'd like to have proof that the judge even saw this. And I think when you look at that, that's the way that the majority of our country is being run right now. We look at the politicians and the ones that are allowed because we only have selection. We don't have elections here. We have selections. They only allow people that they want to be in there to progress. And the parties are behind it. OK, but when you look at the ones that are unelected, that are selected or appointed or got the job somehow, you know, somehow magically the stars align, which the star, you know, we can say that. But you all know what it is. It's this global crime syndicate that's running everything. So how are these people show up? Because somebody got them in. and they're they're following the program and their money depends on the program and whether they're supporting the corporatocracy which is what's running this world right now it's just a few people and the rest of us are peasants and they treat us that way so that clerk that clerk is Is stepping outside the scope of her authority then with that denial, which is maladministration, right? I'm assuming that she never showed the judge because the judge, I would think, would have to sign it. And it was just denied and two initials. That was it. I didn't have the authority to do that. Yeah, I don't know. What I'm saying is that it doesn't make sense. It doesn't make sense that he even went to the judge because I'm sure that a lawful signature would be a signature that you can't just either her or the clerk. denied CM. I don't know whether she even saw it or not, or if it was stopped at the clerk, but the clerk did hang up on me one day when I was asking questions and I was nice. I wasn't combative, nothing. And she just started the, what they do is when you get talking to these people, Peggy Sattler did the same thing. She's the clerk of Byron township. And she hung up on me one day because I was asking her questions. And then all of a sudden they talk, talk, talk, talk, talk, talk, talk, talk, talk. And they accelerate their, their voice patterns and, They get more aggressive with their voice patterns and bam, they'll hang up on you every time. Watch them do that. When you see that, you're watching somebody who is a trained disruptor. You know, I had the same instance, a mutual friend by the name of John Flynn. He was down in Connecticut, locked up in a mental institution based on- Do you know John? John Flynn? Yeah. Oh, man, I've been, like, following his stuff. I don't know him, but I would love to talk to him. So I need some connections there because this is, I just can't believe what they've done to this man. Yeah. When he was still locked up in a mental institution based on the word of one judge, right, when he was just speaking truth, I don't even remember how long he was in there for, but it was a ridiculous amount of time and just absolute, absolute, basically torture in this mental institution. And forced medication too. I've got another friend that was locked up and they tried, they did the forced medication on him too. And I know he's watching right now. And all I can say is I am very horrified at what's happened to really good people by locking them up in the mental institutions and then drugging them in any way, shape or form. This is shocking because that's how they're getting rid of their, one of the ways they're getting rid of their opposition. We made a call out to I don't know how many tens of thousands of people to send in a writ of habeas corpus because what you have is a unconstitutional judge deciding a case on his own volition against a living individual. And so we sent in, I think the account was somewhere over three hundred writs of habeas corpus. And I don't know about anybody else, but I made it known I received a letter back from the Supreme Court of Connecticut basically warning me that if I try to contact the judge, that they're going to come after me. It wasn't contempt. It was something else that they said. I had to go back and find that. But yeah, they sent out a warning to me saying that I can't even contact the judge because I'm not involved in the case whatsoever. And I was just asking for proof of what you did to a man, right? But that's the way that they operate. And it's sickening to have to go through that process. And it's sickening to even have that done to an individual. But that's the importance of standing up because soon after all those writs went in, oh, oh, what I was going to say, yeah, that came back from the clerk, right? That never went to the judge either. And it was all done legally and professionally before it was sent in. But the clerk sent all those back, sent me my original documents back, never even filed. Well, the clerk here said, and her name is Chanel Guidon. The clerk said to me when I was talking to her, she's like, we never got this. We never got your TRO. She said the judge was on vacation for a week. And this was for an emergency, a restraining order, an emergency injunction because they were draining a billion gallons of water out of the water table. You can't tell me they're not all in on this. And she's like, and I was working remotely from home. And I'm like, I did put it in. And no, we never got it. And I'm like, yes, you did. And guess what? I had a stamped, received stamp on my copy. Because when you go in and deal with these people, you have to have them sign it in your presence, stamp it with the date and time, and then have a copy of that. If you don't, you're dead in the water because they're hiding things. Yep. And bring a friend as witness. Yeah. They do that too. The whole point of what I was saying was after all that was said and done, it was a very short time span. And then they released John, John Flint. I'm so proud of you. I didn't know you did this. This is like so cool. I had no idea that you were connected there. Yeah. Through a mutual friend. But I stand on justice, right? Justice is like in the past probably three years, it's like the baseline for everything I have to do. If I see injustice, I cannot walk by it anymore. Oh, man. We're like wired the same way. If I see injustice, I have to stand up and I'm going to say something because I hate bad guys. Yeah. I was called a, what do they call those, right-wing, not conspiracy, but right-wing, like Nash. I guess I got called a Christian nationalist once, too. Oh, boo, who sticks the stones, right? Because of my stand on local militia, right? I just had an instance not too terrible long ago where the feds came in and removed a bunch of firearms from, an acquaintance of mine, not really a friend, but an acquaintance of mine. And unfortunately, he's nowhere near me, so there wasn't a whole lot I could do except for write letters and cause a ruckus. But I started pushing harder on the local militias and the need for Minutemen because you have so many instances where the feds or the state government comes in and removes personal and private property Again, without a victim, without due process, without most of the time even a warrant, and even some instances without even probable cause. They violate just about every right of the people there is. But they come in and try to remove property. Who is going to stop them? I know of very few sheriffs who are actually going to put together a posse immediately and be at your door to stop them. Look at civil forfeiture. They can come in and take whatever you have, and then that object has to sue for its own freedom. You can't even sue to get justice. Or the DNR and EGLE. The DNR and EGLE are terrorist organizations. They can come in and take your property without any warrants or anything. And the Forestry Service is about the same way. They can come in and take whatever they want, And you have no recourse. Yep, that's why it's important to stop them before they even get to that point. And if the men would actually stand up in the community and quit themselves like men, you could easily bind together and put a stop and say, no, you're not doing this. I mean, we saw it done in Michigan during COVID. There were several instances of them coming after businesses, and the people stood together and said, nope. Simple like that. We weren't violent. We didn't threaten their lives. We just said, no, you're not doing this. If you continue to try, we'll take it to the next level. But as of now, no. And almost every time they backed off. I tried to get arrested, Bill. I poked him. I put my arm out there and I said, I will not comply. So put the cuffs on me now. Let's do it. And they're like, hey, back away from the crazy lady. But here's the message to humanity right now. I'm going to give you a message to humanity. And this goes back to a king and a queen in Ireland. The king left and went and decided to go fight his battles. By the time he got back home, he had to pull the queen off the people that had done the bad things because she was absolutely, uncompromisingly brutal. He literally said, okay, they've had enough. The king came back and pulled his wife off retribution on the bad guys. And, you know, just so everybody knows, men fight more fair, women do not, you know? And it's like, it's like, you know, the men can step up and do things, but when it comes to once the women get activated, the gloves are off and pretty much everything's on the table at that point in time. Just a point to bring to everybody's, everybody's, uh, you go after, you go after women's children and it's going to get serious real quick. Yep. God forbid somebody think that they could actually go after my children or my family's children. That that would be the last mistake that they make. And I am willing to make that public. You stay away from the kids. I don't care if you want to come after me. I don't care if you want to come after other adults. We can handle our own battle, but you come after the innocent and I'm going to come after you. So I've got a crew to run guys. I still, I'm still working there. Hey, I got to show you this video a minute. I'm going to take a mental health break right now and just, but it really is. And it's one of those things that I think everybody should see this because this came up on Instagram and it really gives us a point of how the progressive people who are kind of, all right, they've got no practical knowledge of anything. They're living in Disney world and they have no idea, none whatsoever about how to actually run things. But I want you to listen to this guy. It's three minutes. And he talks about, this is a great explanation of how the world is and what social justice warriors who think that they're contributing so much to the world, how stupidly idiotic this thing is. And I love this thing. Great, great example. Three minutes. Enter the United States can help reduce world poverty. Is that true? Well, no, it's not. And let me show you why. This gumball represents the one million legal immigrants that the United States has taken every year on average since nineteen ninety. In Africa alone, there are six hundred and fifty million people who make less than two dollars a day. Six hundred and fifty billion. And in India, another eight hundred and ninety million people desperately poor. China adds another four hundred and eighty million. making less than two dollars a day. And unfortunately, the rest of Asia has a heartbreaking eight hundred and ten million people who the World Bank says make less than two dollars a day. And finally, there's one hundred and five million of Latin America's population that are desperately poor. All told, the World Bank says there are three billion people in the world, three billion people with more making less than two dollars a day that's three thousand gumballs and every year it suggests that we've somehow made a humanitarian difference even if we went by the most radical proposals in Washington which are to actually double our immigration to two million a year which would totally overwhelm our physical, natural, and social infrastructures, we couldn't make a noticeable difference. And we may be really hurting the impoverished people of the world because the million that we do take are among the most energetic, often the better educated. Last year, when we took one million immigrants, these countries added births over deaths eighty million more people into the impoverished population and this year congress is bringing in a million legal immigrants and this year according to the united nations these countries are expected to add another eighty million people we could take five million a year but we never get ahead of what's happening in these countries not in this century an effective or significant way to deal with the suffering people of the world. They have to be helped where they live. Let's help them there. I thought that was a fantastic video and I just wanted to bring that up before you left, Bill, because I figured you would have something else to say about this also before you leave. Yeah, I love Gumball and Beebe analogies to represent. When you start talking millions, the mind cannot picture millions, right? We might be able to picture thousands, but our minds cannot actually picture millions of something in front of us unless we narrow it down to a single object we can focus on. And seeing something like that, it doesn't matter how much so-called charity or humanitarian actions we take in the U.S., the other countries are still going to do what the other countries do, right? One of the big ones, and Don Blankenship was one that spoke out on this a lot because he was involved in coal. One of the big ones, we can narrow down our carbon footprint so far to help the environment in the U.S. We can cut coal completely out. Well, that'd be impossible. But we can cut coal completely out and get rid of our entire carbon footprint in the U.S., right? In the meantime, China over there is going to increase their carbon footprint to make up for the manufacturing that we just left off. And they produce millions more than we do. With no environmentals. Yeah, with hardly any oversight. I'm not saying that we should make the biggest amount of environmental hazards we can because we're to be good stewards. but we're given things on the earth to take care of. We can only take care of what we're given. We cannot control what the other countries of the world take care of because our constitution grants no authority for the US to become the world police department. But that's what they have been trying to make us for the last sixty, seventy years. No, let's see, it'd be long, almost eighty years now. We have become the world's policing agency. And it's stupid to think that we can actually get anything done in other countries when we're not focused on what we're doing in our own. Good point. And that's a great segue to the next thing that we're going to go to is the price of gold and silver. So thanks for being on today. I'm going to go to a quick break and then I'll be back on with Greg and Karen. And Bill's got to go run a company. Sad but true. Sad but true. So, all right. Well, thanks. Actually, Donna, I want to make a correction to that. I no longer run a company. I have dissolved all of my corporate status. I am just a working individual trading service and time for paper, basically. I mean, that's all it is. Greg's going to talk about that here in a minute. But I'm merely bartering my services and time. to make a living so I can take care of my family. I own no corporate statuses anymore, and I'm proud to say that. I have no contracts with the state except for, you know, some driver's license and birth certificate stuff. That's going away sometime in the near future. Just a matter of time here. I think the clock is ticking right now, you know. So, all right, we're going to take a quick break, and I'll be back with Greg and Karen, and we'll be talking about notices. Thanks for being on today, Bill. Fantastic day. Take care. Good morning. Welcome to the second hour of Brandenburg News Network. I am Donna Brandenburg, and it's the third day of September, twenty twenty five. Welcome to our show. And we're going to jump right back in here with Greg and Karen. How you guys doing? You making it OK? That was a good discussion, wasn't it? That was great. I love it. I love it. It's a good segue into our session. Yeah. Let me see if I can bring up. Let's see here. Hang on. You guys realize I'm running like. five sometimes six screens here depending on what comes up so if I'm kind of distracted it's because I'm probably looking at the chat somewhere and uh trying to read comments because I've got comments coming in from everywhere all right here we go number one I just want to point out that when donna goes on a quick break it's not to relay the commercial for her sponsors Yeah, quick break is that I either usually have to get up and grab coffee, stretch a little bit. It's actually kind of if you sit in a chair like this in your streaming, live streaming, after about an hour and a half, if you guys notice this, I start getting the wiggles. It's like I've got to like move around a little bit and such. So quite often I just get up and stretch or sometimes I'll go hit my coffee. If it's you guys on here, I can say, talk amongst yourselves. I'll be back. And then I go get another hit of coffee or something else like that. But yeah, I don't have sponsors. You know, we were talking about that last night when we were sitting down with this attorney that I paid. And I'm going to tell you, it's going to get real and real quick here. And so watch what happens. I'm not going to give too much of a heads up on this, but I am going to give a little bit of a teaser on what's happening. This is going to be absolutely amazing. Epic. And I mean, epic, huge. They're going to wish I was never born. So that's okay. You know, sometimes you gotta, you gotta let the bad guys know who you are and again, they get back up again. You just, you just knock them right down until they can't get back up again. And I mean that in a legal sense. Okay. Greg, you sent this over this morning. What in the world is happening with gold? It's like, it's on a rocket. Well, I heard you talk about it yesterday. I have been a, big gold buff for, you know, thirty, forty years because I. These fiat currencies that we've started to print since nineteen seventy one have created a situation where they're finally coming to fruition and the government's done everything in their power, as you can see from this graph up until, you know, two thousand five, two thousand six. to suppress the price of gold and silver. And unfortunately, you can only do that for so long. And now they've kind of let the cat out of the bag. And when we went through the financial crisis of two thousand eight and you see what kind of financial crisis we're in today, we passed this big, beautiful bill, which is obviously, just printing more and more money, which, again, if it's spent the right way, it's one thing, but we've got so much government waste and NGOs and other, you know, backdoor deals, where most of the money is not going for the benefit of we the people. And you can see that in the price of gold now, and I think we're in literally the first inning. So when you look at this graph, going back to the It's pretty scary and it should be to people. That means the inverse of that is the value of what your dollar is buying. So if you think about it in terms of we trade these fiat, you know, what what people call currency, which is really a note, we trade those. It's the inverse of that graph that you're looking at right now. And you look at it really since, you know, really the last couple of years, it's just crazy. I mean, the price of where it's gone. Now, silver did go through a blip and I sent you that graph as well. But silver went through a blip in two thousand twelve, which probably was the right price for silver. But they were able the government was able to get it back again. But now they can't get it back in control. Now it's outside of their control. And we have, in this country, taken these precious minerals, obviously silver and gold being two, but there's many others. There's copper, there's nickel, there's magnesium, manganite, palladium. There's lots of metals that we use and have mined. If it's not grown, it's mined. So if we don't grow something, i.e., the food we eat, the cattle and other animals. It's mine. And we get it out of the earth. God has given us these precious metals. And when you look at the graphs, I mean, I've just sent you gold and silver, but you can go back and look at graphs of all these other metals in U S dollar terms. And they're just as bad as these two, if not worse in some situations. And it's funny. Cause I, I don't know if you ever watched the Sean Ryan show, but I watched it the other day only because he had the CEO of a company called TMC. TMC is a company called The Metal Company, and they have been working for over a decade to get a license to harvest. He calls them nodes, which are basically rocks at the bottom of the ocean. I've seen that and heard that. Off the Pacific coast. It's a company called TMC. It's publicly traded. You can look it up and you can actually go to their website, the metal company, and they've got an incredible video. But since Trump has gotten in office again and said, we're going to bring these back. I mean, when I worked In finance, in Wall Street, I had financed numerous magnesium mining companies in America. A lot of them were in Salt Lake because they mined them out of the Great Salt Lake. And when you mine a mineral, you're typically talking about mining something that is a fraction of what you're pulling out of the earth. And we had these huge evaporation lakes, basically, that were manmade around the Great Salt Lake, where they would evaporate the Great Salt Lake little at a time in order to concentrate the Great Salt Lake to get to the point where you had, you know, point oh eight percent of the Great Salt Lake that was actually magnesium. Well, in America, we can't make an airplane without magnesium. We can't make a car without magnesium. We can't make a military piece of equipment without magnesium. We used to have numerous mines in America where we produced magnesium, but the environmentalists took that out of our system completely, and they removed magnesium production in America, and we gave it to China. china controls now seventy to seventy five percent of all rare earth minerals all over the world and even minerals in america they bought the mines that are sitting there idle right now in anticipation of keeping america from mining them or taking us over at some point in time and I'm sure that's their longer term goal but and that's not the point of why I say that I say that because When they mine magnesium, and I'm just, again, talking about one product, but it's a very important, critical product. Without it, we can't make computers. We can't make anything. No military. We can't protect ourselves. We can't even live without it. We can't live without it. And because you're right, we take it as a vitamin as well. So what they do to mine magnesium is so different than what we did in America. And it is so disgustingly dirty. You can go on Google and search for magnesium mines in China. You see the videos of how they do it. They have these open square mile plants where they hang these steel cylinders filled with magnesium rock. And they put coal and just burn it in the open air. Coal. And they burn it so that the magnesium, because it's a very light metal, it flows to the top. And they rotate these cylinders around a literally square mile or two of open air coal burning facilities. Now, one of those plants... produces more pollution for the earth and as far as I know I think we still live on the same planet as china one of those facilities produces more environmental hazard that the epa shut down in america in the early two thousands they shut it down we we no longer produce any we used to have magnesium corp of america we had alcohol we had other miners of magnesium and we gave it to china And we allowed them to produce that one metal and produce more pollution, just like the video you showed prior to us moving to the second half. It just brought it all back to me because I financed those magnesium companies. We did it cleanly. We did it with scrubbers. We didn't do it the way China is doing it. They could care less about the earth. All they care about is power. power and money in control. And ultimately that is their goal is to take all these rare earth minerals. And we wonder how in the world, you know, there's a, there's a guy in Texas that's bringing a lawsuit over property tax valuations and the craziness built into our property tax valuation system in America. And he's doing it just in Texas. And he's trying to bring in the sec and the attorney general and other resources, the FBI and CIA to investigate the fraud that is being perpetrated on America in just the property tax situation. And I only bring it up from the standpoint of property taxes in five years, nearly tripled in this country. And How did they triple and how did the value of the CPI, which we measure, which obviously should include the largest cost that we have is, you know, the middle class. And that is the cost of our house, the cost of our living. And yet, how in the world did prices skyrocket? And yet our CPI, according to them, only went up a couple of percent. It's because we just keep changing the definitions of the words. And when you change the definitions of the words and you're the government and you can cram people down from living in, you know, a twenty five hundred square foot home to a new seven hundred square foot apartment complex or townhouse. Really, your cost didn't go up. Well, your standard of living certainly went down dramatically. And that's what they're doing with all of America. They're taking it away from us. I got to show you something here. This is interesting because we were talking about the water wars here and the areas that they've put into under their control of water. There's a town nexus that their water has gone up four times the price. And so this is kind of like all tied in together. When you look at the natural resources, this isn't to better anything. It's only bettering a few. Power and control. you gotta tell me how I did here in finding this video this is the toxic legacy of the dark side of china's giant mining zones let's take a look at this a minute I don't know and I have I didn't look at this beforehand so let's just see what see what it is of the country's largest mining zones, Bayanovo in Inner Mongolia and Dexing in Jiangxi Province. Once symbols of industrial power, they now carry the scars of unchecked mineral extraction. Here, polluted rivers run thick with heavy metals. Arsenic, cadmium, and lead seep into soil and water, threatening ecosystems and human health. Crops fail, wells dry, children play on land too toxic to touch. Bayonobo, the world's largest rare earth mine, powers global tech, but leaves radioactive waste in its wake. Dexing, once a copper giant, now leaks acid into nearby streams. Local communities bear the cost with little say and fewer solutions. These are the hidden costs of the materials that fuel our modern lives. The legacy of mining isn't just underground. It's in the air, the water, the soil, and the future. There you go. That's kind of interesting because they're trying to do a copper mine up in the UP here, which coincidentally, I find this really disturbing. Singapore owns five percent of the UP. It's crazy. It's like, okay, so we're just going to let China and Singapore and all these other countries just literally buy land in America. It's crazy. It's nuts. I encourage people to go and listen to John Ryan's interview of the CEO of Because in that interview, he lays out the amount of rock that he can get out of the bottom of the ocean and basically do it environmentally safe. I mean, they've done ridiculous amounts of environmental studies. It is the safest, cleanest. And when they bring up a node, thirty seven percent of that node is nickel, copper, magnesium. I mean, are minerals. Whereas right now. Every copper mine that mines from land, they have to move ninety nine point, you know, eight seven percent of the amount of earth in order to get a fraction of copper out of the earth, not to mention all the other costs. These nodes, which were produced by God, I mean, and given us in the ocean and there are in their little license area, there's two billion pounds of these nodes and one hundred percent of those nodes are usable material. So literally when they mine the node, they're using one hundred percent of it once they extract the water out of it, because obviously there's a lot of water built inside these nodes. But once they extract the water, which is, you know, twenty five percent of the material, the rest of it is all usable material. it's environmentally safe and they have been fighting for a decade because there's this international association which includes china and russia which the u.s smartly under reagan chose not to be a part of that controls international waters since we had already patrolled them and and and protect people you know for inter inter um nation commerce all over the world I mean, we didn't need to join another treaty. So we didn't join the treaty. And Trump finally in office, one of the other good things that he's doing that, you know, no one's ever going to talk about is this mineral mining in places like this. And those are obviously further than ten miles offshore of America. But yet international waters are open to all of us. I mean, the fact that we've got the equipment, we've got the know-how, we understand how to mine that material. And by the way, the way it was found from the CIA is completely an accident. During the Cold War with Russia, we had placed all of these meters in order to measure sound all over the ocean floor. And Russia lost one of their nuclear submarines. We knew where it was because of an explosion underwater because we had monitored all of these under the floor places. Well, ultimately, to make a long story short, the CIA brought in the scientists because they realized what they had at the bottom of the ocean floor where this submarine had exploded. And they realized the amount of these nodes and these minerals that we're mining out of the earth today. I mean, I'd much rather mine them out of the bottom of the ocean where I'm not disrupting the ocean. And for the most part, there is no life down at the bottom of these oceans because food trickles down and pretty much by the time it gets to the bottom, I mean, you're talking about very little fluid at the very bottom of the ocean. So the disruptiveness to these sweepers that are sucking up these nodes is minimal compared to what we're doing to the earth and what we did to the rainforest. Because right now, a lot of magnesium and nickel and copper come out of the rainforest and we are just annihilating the rainforest. You know what the underlying problem with this is? Is that instead of taking care of God's world, we're victimizing it. We are basically consume, consume, consume, consume. Correct. I think we need to focus a little bit more right now on sitting there and thinking about things and trying to help each other rather than just consumption and piling up a big Scrooge McDuck pile of money. Yep. And I agree with that. But in order for us to stay safe and protect ourselves from countries like China and Russia and India and the BRIC nations that we have to compete with, we have to be self-sustaining. What we have done with NAFTA and GATT and all of the other trade treaties is given up our independence. Given up our nation. Yeah. All of these agreements. We've been talking about this on Monday, Vicki and I have for, I don't know, we've got to be coming up on a couple of years now, and how toxic this has been because they put us into commerce and they put us into economic zones. So we have a real problem here. And honestly, because of that, our mindset has changed to economic zones. pursuits rather than things that are of a higher, of a higher pursuit, like serving God. We're going to come back to get serving God, serving God, serving God. Okay. Brandenburg is going to say it again. What's that? Like loving family. Yeah. And being okay with things the way that it is, you know, it's just, it's crazy to me. So I got to show you something else, you know, that you brought this up. I, I, and this is a little off topic, but we're going all over the place here today. That's what we do on Brandenburg news network. We're all over the place. Hang on a minute. Let me bring this up. Cause this is, this is kind of crazy. Somebody sent this to me this morning and, um, I looked at this, this is coming out of camp Grayling and, uh, They're like local radar for super resolution based reflectivity. All right. I'm going to throw that out there and ask anybody, what are we seeing? Somebody help me out with this. I know about the antennas and the ability to... do elf technology, the extra low frequency antennas and such, which they've got a connection with underground. That's well known. They've got other stuff they can do, but, but somebody sent that to me and they're like, what the heck are we seeing there? I'm like, is this EMP? I don't know what this is at this moment in time, but because I haven't looked into it, it came, it came through this morning when I was talking to a friend who was Uh, uh, this friend likes to spook around a little bit like I do and said, Hey, check this out. Like, okay. Uh, and, and they asked me, he said, you know what this is? Cause you've been to Grayling. And I said, well, I know that what's underground there is a lot more than what's above ground, including the, um, you know, the, the antennas, the underground, like elf antenna system, extra low frequency that they can communicate with submarines under the earth. Through the earth. And that's not like a big secret there. I mean, President Trump, when that eleven eleven, when they started the earthquake up in in Alaska, that came from the Indian Ocean. that the wave came from that and hit as a earthquake in Alaska. And that's about the time that everybody was like, oh my gosh, if they can do this and create an earthquake from the Indian Ocean, guess what? It's about to get real. But I saw that, and let me see if I can go to the commentary on it, because I haven't even had time to look at it today. I literally just skidded into the chair here today and said, hmm. Well, let's see what happens. But there should be commentary on this. So let me see what's going on here. I'd be asking. Cognitive carbon. Yes. Yeah. You know that. I send it. Yes, I do. I sent him something like that once. Because I don't know anything about those radar images. And sometimes it's. it's very explainable and people make a big fuss and say, Ooh, what is this? And he's like, eh, no, it's just this. Nothing to worry about. Yeah. So that's, that's what we have there. That's what I have. But, but kind of an interesting that it's coming from Grayling, the Grayling area. So whatever it is, is something that, um, It looks like some sort of form of radio frequency or something like that, but it's going in lots of different directions. I know you can, with ELF technology, I could post this. I actually did some research on this morning because I was explaining to... Hang on a minute. I was explaining to... someone exactly what ALF technology is. Let me read the condensed version. This is the AI condensed version. Deep earth antenna often associated with extremely low frequency or ALF communication systems is a specialized type of radio transmitter designed to communicate with submerged submarines. These systems use very low radio frequency, three to three hundred hertz and can penetrate seawater to depths of hundreds of meters allowing communication with submarines at their operational desk without requiring them to surface, thus maintaining key stealth. And they've got other things. They've got VLF-II that I know about, which is very low frequency and such, but it's used to, the radio waves are quickly absorbed by saltwater, for example, at seventy-six hertz, and Soviet-Russian ZEVS system, eighty-two hertz and such. The low frequencies have extremely long wavelengths, Thousands of kilometers making traditional antennas impractical. So I personally think that when I look at – and this isn't something somebody told me. It's just sort of something you figure out when you're a nerd, okay, is that they've got these underground antennas. that they've been able to put in place that can communicate with submarines and such all over the earth. Whatever we see above the ground is not nearly as significant as what we're not seeing, which is either below the ground, invisible to us, and or in the space, in the realm of outer space. I think there's so much we don't know about that it's kind of good just to sit back and go, well, well, well, what are we going to find out today? Because it's going to be a daily unmasking of the nonsense out there. So you just got to like, right, right. This, this is a temporary place for us anyway. So just ride the waves and smile and wave boys as we go up and down on the rollercoaster of life. It doesn't help that we have morons in office. As long as we try to leave it a little bit better for our children. Yeah, we need to leave the earth better than we found it. And if we can do that, it's going to be a good day because I'm pretty sure looking for heaven on earth isn't going to come until Jesus sets foot back here on the earth. And until that time, we just got to mind our own business and do what we need to do and grow and becoming more like Christ. And that's our job here. So make things better. So what else do you want to talk about today, guys? We've kind of like gone off in every direction. Well, I'd like to follow up just a little bit on on where Mike took you yesterday on notices, because I believe wholeheartedly in what he's saying and doing the doing the notices and giving a broad distribution of notice to everyone that is affecting you in your water wars is is an easy thing to do. And it puts not only them But your legislators and your governor and your executive branch, even the court system on notice that they're responsible to protect your rights and they're trampling your rights right now. So those notices and then the second notice, those notices become and are evidence. And most of them will go completely unrebutted because most attorneys will look at them and say, we don't use that law anymore. We don't use the fundamental common law, God's law. We have this new law that we use, which is called commercial code case law. And so they will take your notices and they will discard them. But once you lay that groundwork and you serve those notices, which are literally short, sweet and to the point, I actually sent Karen a couple weeks ago some samples for you to follow for your case. And it shouldn't take very long to create and do. I obviously don't know all the situations with your water wars, but I know... Did you send them to me, too, or did you send them to Karen? I just sent them to Karen. Okay. So we'll have to get together and do that because there's a lot of motion here. And like I said, I'm planning on hitting everybody with anything I possibly can. We're going to just paper this thing right into oblivion. If we need to, until we get justice. And if we have to, we're going to have to haul the clerks, the, the judges, Eagle, all of them into this. And I think it's going to be amazing, but thank you for sending that by the way. You are welcome. And you can find many of what I sent as well as others on the, we, the people notices.org. Uh, we have many of them that are on that website. Um, that are still active, so you can pull those up and follow those. Mike said he's going to help me, and so we're going to do two. My problem is I don't have one thing to focus on, and it's like having as many guests on as I do. I have my switching from one thing to another. is a, is a real feat of, of juggling balls in the air. And so to, I try to give everything the maximum amount of attention, but also while also giving people a voice and the ability to talk when everybody else is silenced everything. Right. But, but Mike did say that he would absolutely help me. Hey, Karen, you're back. Yeah, push the wrong button. Like everybody else, push the wrong button. I was trying to send the links to Greg because I wanted him to be able to have access to the article I wrote for tomorrow's show, which I think he'll like. And Greg, there was something else you wanted to send me and I didn't follow up with you any further. I had a couple of questions that I sent you. And I didn't get an answer back on that. But also then I was delegated to continue working on the free speech concepts for Donna and the people of her township and everywhere else. So I was busy doing that. But I've been thinking, oh, yes, I need to get back to looking into this notices thing. Yeah. You will notice, everyone, what exactly happened here. We actually have people that are working together, such as Karen taking the bull by the horns here. And I'm like, I need an article. Can you write an article on this for me? And she's like, absolutely. This is what a team does. You have everybody that focuses on something different and not expecting everybody to do the same job. You know, it's like everybody's got to do something to say, hey, I can help and I'll do this. or I can help and I'll do this and then work on it together and, you know, come to agreements and put things out there. And Karen, I just, I just love you to pieces. And this is, you know, we've talked about it many times as a biblical principle about hands and feet, parts of the body. And by the way, I have no problem admitting I had help with that. I wrote it myself, but there were a couple of mutual friends of ours who assisted in ensuring that I had the right comprehension of things first. Because I did a lot of learning in the research process. And then I also had a helper who is a follower of Karen Riveter, who has reviewed one of my sub stacks before because I needed a different perspective. I wanted someone who wasn't illiterate in the concepts. But who comes at it from more of a common person perspective who could read it and say, oh, yeah, that's easy enough to understand or it's too complicated. You need to break it up more or here's a typo. You know, so I had that help, too. It wasn't just just me working alone, but it's something that started a few years ago and changed. I used it. Donna asked for a primer. She says, I need to understand this OMA thing. I need to understand New York Times versus Sullivan a little bit better. Can you write like a primer for me? Because I don't have time to read everything. And I said, Okay, sure. I'll do that. And I wish I had an army of people that wouldn't sit there and tell me, Donnie, you got to know everything about this. And this is what you need to look into it. You need to do this and you need to do that. And then they ghost and go home and have coffee. And it's like, that's great. If I had twenty of me, it would probably work because I've got. I don't even know how many people I mean, I can't even imagine how how President Trump, you know, keeps his mind with, you know, people telling him you got to do this, you got to do that without lifting a finger to helping him learn. You know, it's like I can't I can't even imagine it's unrealistic to ask somebody to take on your issue and jump into it and start where you started and then expect you to be within two days with other things going on to come up to where you are. I mean, it's kind of ignorant. It really is. You can't do that to people. It's like make a checklist, give people a timeline, give them an overall idea. and then take the time to help educate them. Because if you have to research every topic, I'm a pretty good researcher. You guys know me enough to know that, you know, I was first in the Anon community, which most of the people in there, honestly, are somehow attached to military intelligence, which is really interesting. So these people know how to research, okay? I am not in military intelligence. I never have been. I just was like the little sister that somebody said, hey, tap her and see what happens, right? But the point being is that I'm a pretty good researcher. But that doesn't mean that I can devote the time to the thousands of topics that are out there that other people have got decades of experience in. When we really... become very good at I mean we can we can know what we need to know and point point somebody somebody else say okay I know enough to tell you that you need to talk to this person if you want to know everything there is about this subject which is why you know I love having you guys on here because greg you know notices and everybody and we the people know notices I don't have the time to put into that one issue because if I did I probably couldn't run bnn to get the word out there You know, it's like I'm up at by six o'clock every morning and I take a few phone calls in the morning and I'm setting up the broadcast and I sit here and I have to schedule things and talk with other people too. And so it's unrealistic because I would literally die of exhaustion if I had to take on a thousand different topics. So with what Karen's doing is give me the cliff notes that I need to know. So I understand the principles. So I can help you do what you're doing and put it out there so more people can have access to this. And together we can change this mindset that America has been taken captive under. But that doesn't mean that we all have to do everything. I'm not sitting out here beating up on everybody saying, man, you need to do a broadcast. You need to be on that thing every day, two hours to four hours a day, every single day. Promote it, talk to people and go to all these events, blah, blah, to everybody. It's unbelievable. So until, until I can decide how to clone myself, I need people to do what you did, Karen. I mean, this is amazing. You know, it's the team that does it. Yes. He got the primer. I went to her township and tried to give them primer. It didn't go so well, but her community will now have access and you got to figure out how to make sure they share it. And if they're not following you on BNN, but, um, They have access to learning more about who they are and how they can stand on their rights to reduce the censorship by their public boards, their functionaries. And then they can make a difference with regards to whatever is going on in their community, whether it's a water war or a Chinese company trying to take over their land or whatever it is. They, they need to have a little bit of knowledge to do it and they've got to have the courage to step up. And a lot of people did during, during the COVID era, because as Bill was saying, the kids, it affected the kids. They stood up, they started to get their courage, but then. When that threat went away, they kind of bowed out of that fight. And I think they need to step it up again. And as I think they'll see other people getting success with this, then then they'll step up. You know, Donna, Donna is doing the court thing. They can't all do the court thing. They can't all have the resources or knowledge to go. To do this process or can't do it quickly, but they can go tomorrow to their public meeting. Well, see, this is one of the things that I think that, you know, I was talking to the attorney last night and he said he was like, I actually can sit back and Donna, you know, Donna will hand him their tail because I really don't care if anybody likes me if they're breaking the law. I literally will. I don't want to be liked by somebody who is hurting other people. I want them to actually fear me because then they'll step back in line and they'll do the right thing. I don't want their agreement. I don't want them to say I'm a good person. I want nothing from these people because they they have lost all validity to do the right thing. And so but not everybody has that mindset. Most people just kind of want to go along. They don't want to make waves. They want to be able to see their neighbor and not have it be uncomfortable. And it's like that's why we got into this position, because people are willing to stand with other people who don't give a crap about. about anybody else but their own little narcissistic selves and their little narcissistic pursuit of the world. They won't fight. And I actually got into this yesterday. I'm going to go ahead and give everybody the same talk I had yesterday. What really bugs me is I listen to people all the time. Well, you know, I'm going to really get in the fight. If my well goes bad, they're really going to have problems. Why aren't you doing it for your neighbors now? Why are you not stepping forward to defend people now? Totally, totally disqualified themselves, in my opinion, for being ever to be in charge of anything because they're only looking out for their own interests. They're only serving themselves instead of saying, God, put this in front of me today. I see this is wrong and I personally will take the responsibility to fight it. The apathy, the lack of giving a crap about our neighbors, of stopping people when they're doing evil. And guaranteed, if you can only be motivated by narcissistic self-enrichment or self-interest, it's going to come your way. You're just going to have to decide when you're going to do it. But the point being is that it's a tremendous spiritual problem. If people do not step up to see other people who are being damaged to stand up for their rights and waiting until all of a sudden it hits home. It's like I'm just that's one of those things that one of those lukewarm things that I think God is is like sick of. You're either in it for the right reasons to serve or get the hell out of the way because there are adults out there who are willing to do it. But don't stand in the way because you're going to be lumped in the category of the people that are doing it through your complicity, your lack of, and I'm not saying your because anybody listening to this probably isn't in that camp, but that is in with their complicity. their criminality and who doesn't stand up to stop it, you're just as bad. So no pity points from Brandenburg here. I'd be likely to go after those people that are apathetic probably as much or more so because then they'll virtue signal it and it's like, nope, nope, nope, nope, doesn't work here. Did you see the video I shared yesterday with a woman from California who went to a board meeting I think I sent it to your group too. I had her, her street taken away from her and that there, there's a couple of months. There's another gal that watches. And I love this gal. She's on my, my telegram or she's on my X channel and she's from the North and it's, I just, I just love her. I'm not going to put her name out there, but But she's been sharing a lot, too. But I don't know if I saw that video yesterday. I was kind of like in a flurry of making up binders to pass on to the group so that everybody can see the language and the proof. And I'm going to show you this before we move on to this. So just so you know, this is a website that I set up. And I'm going to be adding to this the timeline. of what happened here in water wars as well as exactly what they're doing and the language that's happening that they're using across the state. Once I get this thing really figured out here, I literally will be able to go and help other people defend their local areas and stand with other people which I think is kind of cool but if you want to see what's going on here it's the brandenburg files.com and uh um I think I don't know if I have a subscription to set um to set up for um a RSTP, what is it, feed yet, or RSP, RS, I can't talk today. I'll set up a feed so that you know when there's a new post coming up because as you see this going forward, this is going to go national, I'll guarantee you this. And as this goes national, you might want to see what's going on as we network areas together that have the criminals in office. And just so you know, I was talking to an FBI agent about a week or so ago, and he came right out and said, he said, look at your township boards across Michigan. He goes, every single one of them. is stacked with developers, builders, and appraisers or assessors. I'm like, this is what I've been saying here in Byron Township. So the corporations are buying these people off, they're funding the development, they're funding the infrastructure projects, and they're doing what uh satanic individuals will always do they're going to take you captive you're going to pay water bills four times what you're paying right now whether you're on municipal water or you're on well and septic this is going to absolutely gut you and your family what's going on and you are not going to get away from it so you might as well get in the fight now rather than wait until it's critical mass anyhow I I I yield I'm really pissed off right now. Just so you know, I am so pissed off at what I've been seeing out there because I've gotten to be upfront and personal on the political level and on, you know, to see what actually has happened. And I don't know what else to say other than we have a problem. And I mean, it is a large problem. If everybody doesn't get involved, you're going to end up going into the slaughter, like lambs to the slaughter. There's no way out. It's just a matter of when you decide to get activated. So I sent you a link. If you want to share it, this particular video features a woman from California who had worked in the government and had witnessed firsthand children being abused. Oh, I just saw that. Okay. Various governmental agencies, I'll call them, who are complicit in the problem. And of course, they cut her off during the meeting. She knew to stand up for what was right. I don't know how long she worked for them. I don't know any of those other details except for what she says. But they cut her off at the end and she continues talking, which she should have done. She did the right thing. What she didn't do is stay there and explain to them why they have no right to to limit her time frame. And she probably would have ended up getting called out by the sheriff's deputy. But this is a prime example of why that rule should not exist. She is airing a grievance against the government to the government on the record before the public. And this is why this free speech is so important. Let's listen to this video a minute because I do think this is important. And when they tell you to sit down, you have to know you're right, that you do not have to sit down. Now, that's not legal advice because you may have some repercussions. And if you don't know the law and you can't defend yourself, You better get educated before you do it because otherwise it's probably going to go poorly. But that doesn't mean that you stop. It means you get some courage, get educated, and stand your ground with your friends around you. forensic auditor of government agencies. The County of San Diego has been under audit for quite some time. There seems to be some confusion of why the state opened an investigation into the County and the Board of Education. It's because I filed multiple complaints against the state. I worked in the jail system. I worked in the juvenile halls, went in as a substitute teacher. I witnessed the torture and abuse of children. Here I have a summary and a couple of the kids' statements. One, two, three, four, five. For each of the five supervisors, you are facilitating the torture and abuse of minor children. Nobody is going to say they did not know, did not understand. The state announced an investigation because he's trying to ward off the feds. What you meant, Ms. Stite, is that you've always been protected by the state. You don't know why the state's here because you've always been protected. But the state can't protect you from federal crimes. You keep foster children in jail. Forty percent of the girls and about five percent of the incarcerated boys are actually foster kids. The foster girls, the foundational black American foster girls are regularly and routinely gang beaten by the guards. Regularly and routinely, twice in one week in front of me. You are human traffickers from cradle to grave. It is not just the county supervisors. It is not just the, hang on, girl. It is the county sheriff, the foster care system, the Department of Education, the Attorney General's office, and of course you for facilitating it. You finance it and you protect it and you facilitate it. You are civilly and criminally responsible for your actions. And I'm talking to everybody in this state. You don't give bail to minor children. Thank you. Your time is up. Thank you. Your time is up. Speaker, please. Thank you. Thank you. Go, girl. Ma'am, this is your first warning. Are you disruptive again? Okay, thank you. Yeah, this is your first warning. She can shove that. She was not disruptive. She was not disruptive. No. No. She needs to understand that, you know? Karen, it was like when I told the sheriffs here, I said, what the heck is wrong with you people? I said, you'll go out there and watch BLM and Pantifa or whatever it is. Cause they're just like a bunch of panty wearing, you know, uh, I'm not going to use the word, but you know what I mean? They're weak. They're weak little soy boys and soy girls that think they're all that and a bag of chips. But if they actually come up against an adult, watch them wilt like the cowards they are. And I'm like, why don't you go and address them? And, Hall, they're sorry behinds. And you come into one of our meetings here and tell me to be quiet? I'm like, this is redress of grievance. And we can't have it because we're not heard. And it's like she should never have sat down and said, arrest, arrest me. Dare them. I would dare them to arrest you. Well, she already has grounds for a lawsuit. That's I think, what is it? Title thirty two. I could be wrong about that. It's in my article. It's a violation where they they violated her first article. Right. And she violated the Michigan Constitution. Violated the, in your township at least, violated the OMA by cutting off all the people's right to speak. Is that your first part or part two? Say again? Do you want me to bring up part one or part two? Well, we're going to go over it tomorrow. You don't need to right now. But for the title, it's probably in part one. Hey, let me put this up here a minute and then we'll, we'll, we'll be going over this tomorrow. So people understand, you know, exactly what they're able to do. Watch the feed, like, like go under right, right about now. Talk about that. Oh no. Here we go. Yeah. We're going to be talking about this and this is fundamental knowledge that To how to conduct yourself when they try to tell you to shut up and sit down. Be good little peasants. Don't challenge us. Here we go. I told them if they tried to get the deputies to haul me out, I was going to tell them the same thing I was trying to teach them. And the deputies, as far as I know, they didn't move. They were still on the back wall. But I don't have eyes in the back of my head. They had a big failure about two weeks before, so. Yeah. Here we go. So this is Karen's article. And so tomorrow we're going to be talking about about this whole issue and knowing knowing what your rights are so you can stand up and tell them. So there we go. All right. It starts in it starts in under in comprehending. I try to not say understand who you are, who we are. We are people we are sovereign men and women. We are the creators They are the servants. We are the masters They don't have any right to create rules or policies or laws which limit our rights and so a three-minute rule Is illegal and unlawful. Now, do they know this? They probably don't because they have been educated by the MTA and the MTA is going by, at least in Michigan, these attorney general opinions. So I include those as sources in the first article so that people can recognize where they're getting this argument from. Well, we can create time limits and we can tell you when you can speak on the agenda. And I questioned that in the article. I didn't answer it. I just kind of left it open. Think about whether always or sometimes the people should be limited to public comment periods on an agenda. I can tell you from my personal experience in my township where very few people are in the room. So it's not like you have a big public outburst there most of the time. But they tried to pass a policy that we couldn't see and we never read. And when they started saying, I make a motion to accept this policy, several of us immediately said, wait a minute, we haven't seen this. And they said, it doesn't have anything to do with you. It doesn't affect you. Well, that was a lie because one of the things they did in that policy, which was about how the board will operate during a meeting, they added, I think, time to the time limit that public can speak. Does that affect the people? Yes, it does. And if I had been as studied then as I was now, if I found that out during that meeting, I would have immediately told them you can't do that. At the time, it was just a matter of, no, you can't pass a policy that we haven't seen. We want to see it first. And. they decided that they would back off and give us a copy and we could make comment which I did between meetings so that they had oh I tore it up up and down I did tell them what they should and shouldn't do with it but that's how they typically operate they think that their business is their business alone it's never just their business it's always Our business always. And their business solely is to protect your constitutional rights. That's the only reason they are elected is to protect your constitutional rights. And I just briefly read, as Donna pulled it up, but. You went in the first part of that document and discussed public versus private. And it's understanding the minute you walk into their room, they are taking you out of the private. So you no longer have those constitutional rights that you're citing in the Constitution. You're operating now in the public. That's what they want you to believe. That's what you acquiesce to. That's what they've forced you into is to operate now in the public. That's where Mike yesterday was talking about the difference. We have to understand that difference. I'm allowed to operate in the public anytime I choose. But ninety nine percent of my life is operated in the private, not the public. and therefore my government doesn't have any control over me. But I do have the right to go in and out of the public anytime I choose. Right now, when I walk into a bank, I am forced by their statutes and codes because I have no other way to transact business. I am forced to operate in the public, not the private. But literally, I go in, I do my business, I'm in the public, and I literally walk back out, and now I'm back in the private. Look at how they force you to have a driver's license. Everything with the word license is public. Everything. That's why they want you to have a license to cut hair. That's why they want you to have a license to study law. That's why they want you to have a license to study the CFA. It's a money grab. It is, well, it's a money grab, but it's more than a money grab. It's to get you out of the public or the private and put you into the public, twenty four seven. That really is what it's for. The money grab is insignificant. I mean, in many of these licenses. the power that they have over you now, because when you're literally just braiding hair, which is one of the cases that Judge Gorsuch talks about in his book, a woman in Texas is literally braiding hair, not cutting it, just braiding it, and she perfected a process. The government came in and sued her because she was touching someone else's hair, and they felt like she needed a license for that process. And she didn't have a license for that process. The government wants to license literally everything we do. I don't need a license to drive my car. I have the right to free travel as long as I understand how to protect that right. that right is in my constitution and I can go on the public streets because they're paid for by we the people they're not owned by my government they're owned by my god this is god's land not theirs and but I have to understand when I drive my car without a license plate on it which by the way I'm not telling anybody to do no one should follow it because I'm doing it to create a conflict with my government I want that conflict because that conflict will lead to remedy so that I can educate people on the fact that you know what I'm allowed to drive without a license when I drive in the private not the public I'm not in commerce I'm driving to the store to you know pick up groceries or pick up my kids. I mean, that is the difference between what you wrote in your essay on public versus private. We have to understand those fundamentals. They were never taught to me. I never ever heard any of this before five years ago when I started going down this craziness after COVID and, you know, the business that they were or the tyranny that they were putting my business through. I had license for everything. I had license for the guy that drove the Zamboni. I had license for the people that gave first aid. Everything was a license. Why? Total dominance and control. The minute they move you into the public, they own you and control you. And forget the license. They own you for everything. When you go into a court right now, You have to follow their rules of procedure, not the Constitution, not the law of the land. You have to follow theirs. Why do you have to follow theirs? Because you've lived in the public your entire life. And they've literally taken all three hundred and forty million Americans and they've made us all live in the public twenty four seven. And when you live in the public because you lease your house from the federal government, because we don't own any property anymore in America, the mindset that we have to own property through an elodio title is gone. Now everything we have is through a license and a lease and a security. Why are we all securities? Because they can put you into the public. And I know that sounds foreign to many, many people, but really it is as simple as if I want my constitutional republic back, I have to learn how to live in the private without my government dictating that I have to pay property tax. Property tax does not go for roads and bridges and schools. That is not what that goes for. I mean, we don't understand that because we have been trained that that is the process. That's the system that they overlaid on top of us. And in the constitution, there are only two types of taxes that our government can charge. Direct and indirect. They cannot charge me a direct tax except for war. Period. End of story. Isn't property tax on my property a direct tax? Absolutely it is. I mean, that's a direct tax. But yet, why is it a direct tax? And why do I have to owe it on my own private residence? Okay, I got to interrupt you for just a second because I'm stuck on the Zamboni. You have a Zamboni license? In fact, OSHA came in literally because I had a woman that was a new Zamboni driver and she put her hand down the auger because she thought it was there. Okay, that was a bad move. So this is kind of interesting. I'm a hockey person, so now that's kind of cool that you actually have a license to drive a Zamboni, even though I don't believe in licenses. That's number one. Licenses are ridiculous. Explain to everybody what those taxes go for, because besides their criminal enterprise of corporate welfare and such, I mean, that's an easy one. But let's talk about what those taxes actually go for. For your property tax? Most of them go to our government for NGOs for their own private good. I mean, we unfortunately have lost our way with finance and corporate welfare and corporate welfare. We don't get we are supporting the system. How in the world did the federal government from nineteen seventy until two thousand twenty five go from two million people that serve the people to twenty seven million people that serve the people today? How did that happen? Well, it happened real easily. I mean, the more people they put in government, the more they're allowed to charge that income tax, too, because the fruits of my labor are not taxable. Only my income is taxable. So they had to convert me to this corporation that now allows them to collect the tax on my ten forty because I'm not paying it as the fruits of my labor. I'm paying it as the income for my dual citizenship that they created in the Fourteenth Amendment. You just said something that struck a chord with me right there. The issue of dual citizenship. You know, we can look at this and go, OK, we've got AOC who's a who's a you got AOC out there. You've got Omar with Somalia. You've got half of the Congress dual citizens with with Israel. Watch. They're going to kill my feed right here if I start talking truth. But we're also dual citizens at this point in time. Every single American is a dual citizen. Every single American. We don't think of it that way. But the ten square miles, what we call the federal zone, is a separate sovereign entity. That is a separate sovereign entity from your state. And the Fourteenth Amendment passed in eighteen sixty eight put you into that that dual citizenship. So we are a dual citizen of our state and our And our separate sovereign entity of the United States of America corporation control us in their court system. That's how we walk into the court system. You have to follow those rules of procedure because they pulled you into their jurisdiction. We have to understand what our jurisdiction is. My jurisdiction is God gave me my rights, not my man, not my government. God gave me my rights through my Bible, through my belief in him. and how to treat my neighbor and I understand my my status my status is I was born in the state of ohio I live in the state of georgia I can move to any state and I am not a fourteenth amendment u.s citizen which brings me into that structure that allows them to put me in a courtroom and say you're not sui juris you're not a living man you are only Pro se representing your vessel. That's what pro se is. It's representing your person. And the only way I ever got remedy for my friend in Indiana is we literally filed a writ of mandamus in a federal court and we filed it in his Christian name, not his vessel name. And you know what? They accepted it. And that is a lawsuit. A writ of mandamus is effectively a lawsuit against a servant that's not following the law. It's compelling or telling them a mandamus is telling them what they shall, what they must do. Based upon what? The law of the land, not their law. They don't operate in that jurisdiction. The state courts do not operate in the jurisdiction of the law of the land. We have to understand that. The state courts operate in their separate jurisdiction. And the Supreme Court adjudicates... for all these different jurisdictions. So when a case goes through the Supreme Court and the paper and the press and everybody else blows it up, they never tell you what jurisdiction it relates to. That only relates to the jurisdiction of the Fourteenth Amendment citizens that are living in the federal zone. But yet we have all put ourselves in there. And when you file a If you do, you do it voluntarily. You do not owe. Most people do not owe, you know, federal income tax. But again, that's a show for another day. But when you file a ten forty, you tell the government, yes, I will obey your jurisdiction. I am under your jurisdiction. I've given up all my constitutional rights and therefore I can't stand on my private rights. I literally have given them up in exchange for the privileges, i.e. Social Security. That's what the Social Security Act of nineteen thirty five did was give you those those privileges of getting some Social Security at the end of your life in exchange for all your rights. They took away all your rights and they made you a dual citizen. That's what they did. And understanding what they did, it's all about jurisdiction. Attorneys don't teach you this. The minute you hire an attorney in America, the minute you hire an attorney in America, you are falling under their jurisdiction. And their jurisdiction is only one. It's not the law of the land. It's not the Constitution that, Karen, you were referencing earlier. an attorney will not defend you on jurisdiction they will not walk into a courtroom and say wait a minute this is a living man he shouldn't have to follow these statutes and rules that are created for trustees in order to protect my rights statutes and codes are created by our government to protect our rights they are meant for our servants. I'm not a servant. I'm not a trustee. I didn't take the oath of the constitution. I'm the beneficiary of the constitution, but yet we literally allow our government to put every single one of us under those statutes and codes that are acts that are legislative. And what you said earlier, Karen, The government's not allowed to write an act that affects my rights. No, no law. None. It doesn't say some. It doesn't say a few. It doesn't say a little. It doesn't say, well, when it's a textual version of the Constitution, the law of the land. The law of the land is the law of the land. That's what I live by. But I live in the private, not the public. If I want to go into the public, I have to follow their universal commercial code. That code now applies to me, but what is going into the public mean? It doesn't mean me driving my car up and down I- seventy-five. I'm not in the public when I'm driving my car up and down. They think I am because everybody has a license plate on their car and you're telling the sheriff you're operating in commerce. because they only have the right to manage commerce. If you extract yourself out of commerce and you understand your constitutional rights, again, I'm not telling anybody to do this, and I want to make sure that that comes across loud and clear. Unless, of course, you're a savage. You don't mind being in a fight of your life. Then it's up to you. I don't mind being in the fight for the benefit of my posterity and their posterity. I'm not doing this for me. I don't need this fight at all. I realize what I've done for a fifty year career is I look back on it and I'm somewhat ashamed. Because I knew there was a problem. I knew that the debits and the credits didn't balance with our federal government and the state and the Federal Reserve Bank and finance. I knew that for a long time. I didn't understand the underpinnings of what created this money and what created the Universal Commercial Code. I knew the Universal Commercial Code because that's what we live by. That's what Wall Street lives by. Securities. And securities are transactional instruments. And they literally made us a security. That's what they've done. They made us a security. Why? Because now you're a trustee. And if you're a trustee, you're a servant to who? To them. And they own everything. And they own everything. And they can literally legally create an NGO, i.e. Stacey Abrams here in Georgia. who got paid two billion dollars in a brand new NGO that she created to do research on home products that are electronic. How ridiculous. That's not what my government's supposed to do, but it's perfectly legal what she did. She literally created an entity, had a hundred dollars in it. She got two billion from the government after Biden was elected. But like you said, it's just a process. Everything is fiction right now that we're living in. And I think this is a really, not to, how do I say this, demoralize anyone, but we've got to come to terms with reality. We can't live in Disney World anymore. We can't live in the fantasy land anymore. The reality is that we live in a complete fiction right now. We're going to have to go back and figure out what reality is and get back into reality. And that's how we're going to fix it. Because some of the monsters that we see, they're not monsters at all. It's a fiction. They're living in darkness. But some of it is just fiction to make us afraid. Some of this, a lot of what we see here, if you really step back and look at what's in front of us, it's sometimes the problems seem overwhelming, but they really aren't. If you go back to the very simple form of things and say, you know what? We're going to tear, we're going to cut through all the fog, the fog of war, and we're going to go back to what's real. We're going to get away from all of this pretended stuff, pretended legislation, pretended pretenders who never, ever were elected in office. And they're pretending to serve us, but they're not. All of this pretended stuff and go, no, this isn't reality. And we need to get back to reality and having the courage to confront, to confront the demons, the phantoms that are out there. There's a lot of things that can pose as just a ghost, or the Bible says it, to put down vain imaginations, things that don't exist. Go back to what exists. Actually, I have a very, very mentally ill daughter. She was in a train accident. Her mother was killed at her side, and she's missing half of her brain. And to keep her in reality land has been a third-year struggle here, to keep her in reality. And I would take her hand and say, all right, what's real? Touch this, touch this, touch this. When we get into reality, you can get your arms around it, you can touch it. And that brings you back to these phony things that are just built to frighten us and take us capture. We don't have to exist in that world. We can walk fully forward with faith in God, knowing that the futures can be great, but we got to get rid of all of these programs, all of these things that are running in our head that aren't true. And when we get back... What's that? Egos is take our egos out of the equation. It's a wonderful thing what you're doing. I am just one piece of the body and the knowledge that I have and God has given me and gifted me with over the last forty years and helping me guide me to, you know, what the constitutions are and reading them and Just blowing my mind. I mean, when you read the Bill of Rights in our state constitutions, they don't want you to read them. Why don't they want you to read them? Because they don't want you to know what it says. They don't want you to know that at the bottom of every state constitution in your Bill of Rights, it says no law can ever be written against my rights. No law. So all the laws that are written are legislative and they're there to protect my rights. They're not written for me. You can't sue me in a state over a statute that was written to protect my rights. That logic doesn't equate. And once you get that, once that sinks in, which it didn't for me for years, I mean, I'm going to admit and... We all have to admit that. It's like we find there's a point in time where we find something where it's just insufferable. And it's like we know there's something wrong, but we don't know what's wrong. And then we start searching and go, I don't know what's wrong, but I don't like what I'm seeing. And this is right. And I think every one of us goes through this process. And then as you're discussed with what you're seeing moves on your motivation to dig deeper and find out what's really going on. But we all grew up kind of the same way. I mean, we all, none of us were born with this knowledge. We were born into a very flawed system and our parents were, and their parents were born into it. And all of a sudden there's a bunch of us that are here. And for whatever reason, I think we were appointed to be here at this time. And, And we had to wake up and grow up because everything we love is at stake. But none of us knew it. And it's been quite a process. I know it has been for Karen. It has been for you. It has been for me. You know, I was absolutely as lost as everybody else is at one point in time. And sometimes every day I go, man, I still feel lost, but I keep going and trying to uncover more and more. Yeah. Well, that's what I was, I was going to touch on that too. And as Greg was talking, because he keeps saying, you know, I didn't know this, but look at how he excused himself. That's a really important concept. He's not saying I still feel guilty and foolish and stupid and shame on me. He's not doing that. Cause it's not his fault, but I think people feel like, um, what's the term? When someone is, you know, we've all been manipulated and indoctrinated and we've lost the proper education and so on. But we have to let go of that. Once you figure it out, you got to let go of it. It's like yesterday I shared a post about the shooter in Minnesota. He said something to the effect of, I wish this never happened, allegedly. Allegedly in his manifesto, he realized that this trans thing was false. And he was probably pretty messed up and pretty angry and maybe even led to mental illness. But then I also saw something that said his dad was... Connected to the CIA slash DoD. So there may be more to that story than we know, but when people find out Let's say the truth of nine-eleven coming up real soon here that I watched that nine-eleven codex that Brad Zerbo put out it's got a lot of real strong evidence in it what really happened on nine-eleven and one of the questions commonly asked around that is what about those people who jumped into serving the military because they thought they were doing the right thing well they still were doing the right thing they were they have to let go of the fact that they were manipulated but does that mean they did the wrong thing did that mean that they lacked courage did that mean that they didn't want to serve their country no When you figure out that you've been manipulated, you let go of your personal responsibility of that and you move forward. And that means you just like you said, Donna, you just continue to learn. That's what I did writing this article. I learned a lot in the process and I was already familiar with these things, but that doesn't mean that, you know, Greg's going to read it and he's going to email me and he's going to say, Oh, you, you could have put this in here or you got that wrong, you know, and I might have to write a new article to correct any mistakes that I made. But that's okay. That's part of the learning process. And I think that's important for people to try it, you know, instead of like the meme I made with the little pussycat sitting on the couch saying with his remote control, somebody should do something about that. We should do something about that. and then there's a lion next to him roaring he's like I got my voice I'm doing something about that you just gave me a perfect segue I think yeah it's hilarious and now somebody's gonna say but why did they pull him over I'm like I don't even care at this point in time it's probably fake but okay but this is funny okay you gotta listen this is really funny because We'll get to a light subject here before we check out, but this is really funny. Listen to what the cop says. This guy decides to identify as a cat. When this guy gets pulled over, he told the cop that he identifies as a cat. But what the cop said next will make you respect it. That's my preferred method of identification. And this is, it's a cat collar. I'm currently identifying as a cat. Okay. Well, look, we can do this the hard way if you'd like. I can have this car towed because last I checked, cat is not licensed to operate a motor vehicle in the state of california we can have animal control come get you take you to a shelter where your owner can retrieve you for a fee of seventy dollars after you're given the necessary immunizations which do include a rabies shot possibly even spayed or neutered whichever you prefer or identify with I don't know I don't have seventy dollars I can also request that a mental health care professional come down here on scene and do an evaluation of you because you're considering letting him take a rabies shot rather than just give me an id use some manner so I give your ticket we need more cops like this. When this guy gets pulled over. Okay. I actually think this is absolutely hilarious. I love it. I love it. I don't know. I mean, you know, it makes a lot of sense. Yeah, exactly. I mean, we want to create all these crazy things. God made two sexes. I mean, and you're one or the other and I don't care. You know, I don't care how you live your life, but God gave you that gift. so you get to choose how you want to live your life but you have to understand that god gave us all of our gifts I mean my life my happiness my liberty my posterity he gave them all and that's who I owe allegiance to you don't owe allegiance to any government official none zero don't fear him and I'm glad that that guy didn't fear that police officer I kind of wish he knew what God gave him, though, and he didn't. I want to say I want to say something else. You just hit on it. And I thought of it some time ago. But in the topic of conversation, I didn't want to move on it. The Supreme Court of the United States. When you say that, most people kind of get a shiver running down their spine. Like, oh, those are the top justices. Ooh, scary. You know, they are the be-all and the end-all. No, they're not. We, the people, are a higher authority than SCOTUS, than the Supreme Court justices. The grand jury made up of the people is more powerful than the Supreme Court. Don't you forget that. So when you go into your board meeting... If you know that you are above the Supreme Court, but the Supreme Court also made a ruling that affects this, that describes free speech in that context, you know that you are more powerful than anybody in there. You're more powerful than the attorney. You are more powerful than the deputy in the back of the room. You are more powerful than the Supreme Court justices. And you might actually be wiser than them. I can't judge that. But they may know a lot of law, but they may not know God. And if you were trying to say it's OK for twelve year old girls to have sex. OK, I'm sorry. It's like just wear that that banner of I'm a child trafficker on your face because that's what it amounts to. A groomer, you know. It needs to be said. There is a case, Karen, that you should look up because finally it's coming down, trickling down from the Supreme Court. And there's a case in the third district of the federal appeals court in New Jersey, Sun Valley Orchard versus the Department of Labor. And these are H-A workers, not Americans. They're H-A workers that have come to this country to work. And that case, the Federal Appeals Court said that they had private rights. They had private rights when they're on our property. And those rights are constitutional, given from God. And it's a fabulous case because it was just decided in July. I think it was July thirtieth of twenty twenty five. So just, you know, a little over a month ago. And they decided in that case against the Department of Labor, which was going after back wages for these people, because you know what? There's a difference between operating in the public versus operating in the private. And an H-A worker, even though you're here at the gift of America and our government, you have rights the minute you step on this land. And that right that you have is given not from the government. It's given from God. Learn it. And that's why I would never say anything negative about your essay. I can't wait to read it. I have to find it first because you post a lot and I don't know exactly where to find it. But I will find it and read it. And I look forward to it. If you're on Telegram, it's pinned there. I haven't put it on Twitter. I forgot because I'm hardly ever over there. When Greg says that I'm not going to jump on you, you know, get a shield out because it's coming. I am just a small piece of trying to work together with people that love Jesus. Aaron sharpens iron. I'm not saying it's a bad thing, Greg. It's like, there ain't no way he's going to let anything get past him on that article. He's like, well, you're okay. But, you know, it's like John Tater. You're wrong. I guess I'm sitting down now and I guess I better change a few things. I have another question, though. So regarding this Supreme Court case you just mentioned, so I was going to say, OK, third district, one level down. OK, so a lot of people have been saying and I'd like to hear what you have to say on this regarding immigrants and their rights when they they're making all kinds of claims as the Trump administration is removing them from the land. What rights does an immigrant have versus what they don't have? Well, all rights are given by God to all people. So the fact that we opened up our borders and allowed them to walk across that border made them you know, on our land and instantly. Now, what's the first thing? Did we or did the de facto government allow them to come? Well, it is a de facto. And that's a whole nother conversation. What's the first thing we did with each and every one of those immigrants? What's the first thing we gave them? Paid for them to break the law. More important than that. We made them a Fourteenth Amendment citizen by giving them a Social Security card that was identical to all the other ones that walked across that day. We literally gave them a Social Security card. Why? That made them a Fourteenth Amendment citizen and gave the government full control over the top of them. Period. End of story. Our whole government is all about human trafficking. Human trafficking. It's trafficking. All of it is. There you go. We go back to the genius of President Trump and his executive orders and rolling in the fact that it's crimes against humanity. Now we get to take your stuff. Now we get to take your stuff. Well, the minute they make you a Fourteenth Amendment citizen, they have total jurisdiction over you. You have nothing but privileges. Now you have a privilege to come and work in America and pay taxes to them. Yeah. So you're a foreigner, you come over here, they'd much rather have a foreigner than they would a person that's born in one of the fifty states. Yeah, they gotta have slaves. They'd rather replace all the people that are born here with people that they let in that they can totally control. Now, they're never going to say this publicly, but when you think about it logically, that's what they're doing. Yeah. We won't say it, but we will. You're right. We will say it. Now, unfortunately, they might take you off of YouTube and rumble. That happens all the time. I'm already off YouTube. Facebook decided to let me back on again. I guess I redeemed myself over time because they kick me off regularly. So YouTube so far has not allowed me back on again, which I don't know. I think a lawsuit's in order here, but we'll have to see what happens. Well, remember, Google started as a defense contractor, a mind controlled defense contractor. That's what Google's birth is. So you got to go back in history to understand how, you know, they love transhumanism. They want transhumanism. That's what Google is. So yeah. Live androids, sort of. So think about this. You know, words matter. Think of Larry Fink. He's a Fink. Okay. That's a great, great, funny, funny last name that he ended up getting. Thank you, God. You have a great sense of humor. So with that said, boys and girls, let's go on to our day. Amen. Amen. Yeah, we'll ponder the Fink, okay? So I wonder who was the first Fink? Was it great-grandfather Fink? Little whole family of Finks, you know? I love how Donna says, let's get on with our day, and then she goes off on another tangent. I know, she does. All right, so who wants to pray? You do such a great job. Okay. I volunteer myself. All right. Dear Heavenly Father, thank you so much for Greg and Karen and Bill. And we ask your blessings on Ralph today, who's not feeling real good. And all the other wonderful people that are out there. We ask that everyone who is here is just blessed. All the people from We the People Notices and the wonderful friends we have out there in so many different areas. I ask that you would bless them. that your favor would rest mightily upon them, and that they would know that they're protected and loved and that they can walk on this earth with you. We just have to focus a little bit, I guess, and include you in every part of our day, praying without ceasing. Thank you so much for the beautiful days that you've given us and for all those things that just make our hearts happy. Thank you for joy and peace. Thank you for just your generosity to us in so many different ways. And even when things go wrong, it doesn't matter. We could walk right through the middle of it. You can make a desert bloom. So we don't have to be worried about anything, but we are interested in being your best friend. And so with that said, you just show us and ask us what you would like us to do, and we will do it, not worrying how it ends, not trying to work the statistical numbers on what's going to come out in our favor, whatever favor that is. We want to serve you that your will be done here on earth as it is in heaven. Thank you so much for everything that you've done for us. In the name of Jesus Christ, we pray. Amen. All right, boys and girls, here we go. Ding, ding, ding, ding. Go to, actually, I don't even go to Brandenburg Governor that much, but I am promoting it sort of because it's my point going to protest. If you want to get a hold of me, my phone number's up. This is actually the best way to get a hold of me because I am really irresponsible when it comes to email because I hate email. I absolutely despise and hate email, just so everybody knows, because unless it's transmitting a document, I'm not looking at the email, okay? It's such a – I got the wrong one there. Hang on. Oh, where am I? I've got a phone over there. Just a minute. I'll find it. Maybe I took it out. I guess it disappeared. She's come such a long way from standing in her barn, trying so hard to film herself, just to open her mouth and say something. Now you realize you just don't give a crap anymore, right? Any of it. Yeah, I don't really look at emails that much. If you're emailing me, I'm so sorry. I wish I were better at that. But I can't answer like five million emails that come in, including people that are selling who knows what it is, right? You can't block enough of them anyhow. But at any rate, my phone number is there, okay? Text me first and call me. I will pick up the phone. You know how many people are shocked that I actually will answer a phone call? There, there's your proof positive I'm not a politician. Hate that. So anyhow, ding, ding, ding, ding. Go to brandenburgforever.com to get one of the best non-conceited rules ever not conceived in history of the United States of America. And I'd like to have a discussion with the rightful president of the United States wearing cowboy boots. See who wears it better. It's going to be me. I win that one already because I wear them every day. And then we talk about this and that and how to fix the world and such. And we have a great time and, you know, take what the criminals have stolen, all of it, and give it back to we, the people. And then Donna goes home, plays with bees. digs in the dirt and says, hey, let's go sit down and talk about something, but not in an arena where everybody's being crazy like politics. So at any rate, we go home after we serve. We go home to our families and our friends and not a career... Grifting and grabbing for money. Not okay. Okay. So anyhow, we'll be on tomorrow with Karen, the river, and we will be talking about the open meetings act. And maybe if everybody is brave about it, we'll see if Greg wants to come on tomorrow and we'll just talk more about this and have another person weighing in on this so that we can further increase the education of ourselves. Cause I got a lot to learn. I can tell you that right now. I mean, I can push buttons here, but I can tell you everybody out there knows more than I do on different subjects. No question. No question. And everybody out there has people that know more than they do on a variety of subjects. It's all a matter of standing together, protecting each other's rights and acting like not a dysfunctional family, a good family. So with that said, God bless you all. God bless all those whom you love. Oh, hang on. Let me find Karen. Let's see. I've got a sandwich, Karen, and I've got a heart. Oh, I love it. Yeah, there's Karen holding her heart hands today, okay? So God bless you all. God bless all those whom you love. And God bless America. Have a great day. Go smile at people today. Make the world a brighter place. It doesn't have to be so dark and nasty. And we'll see you tomorrow at nine. Amen.