Published Sept. 9, 2025, 9:01 a.m.
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Good morning and welcome to Brandenburg News Network. I am Donna Brandenburg and it's the ninth day of September, twenty twenty five. Welcome to our show. We're going to start out this morning with John Tater at nine o'clock with Lawful Defense and at ten o'clock. It's Mike Proce and should be a fun day today. So I'm going to bring John right on because we got lots of stuff to talk about. Hey, John, how you doing? I'm good. You really wed you. Things going good with Susie. Susie's not here, but yeah. Yeah, Susie is just a very nice person. I love her to pieces. So that's awesome. So what are we going to talk about today? It looks like the oath of office a little bit. And I wanted to tell you that I went down to our township last night during this water wars. Now they have stolen over a billion gallons of water. and lowered the water table. You know, we're up to sixteen failed wells and three dry ponds. And they just look at this. You want to know what they said this week or this past couple weeks? They said, well, you know, the contractor told us that the water table, you know, is going to come back by December. My well went dry August one. Did you get that guy's name and did you get that information in writing? We have it all documented. That's a perfect lawsuit. We have it all documented. Don't worry not. So at any rate, we've got this nonsense going on. And Don Tillema, who thinks he's the tyrant, the king of Byron Township, you know, last night again said, well, we have made great gains and we're going to write an ordinance. that grandfathers all of you in, that you don't have to hook up to the sewer. And I'm like, allow. I got up there. I said, don't say that word allow to me. You don't allow us to do anything. You don't have that power to do anything. And then I read the language this morning and it's all a bunch of BS legal ease that really gives the township still complete discretion to tell anybody what to do on their private property. That's right. And so it's like, no, no, no, no. I think I need to write him a notice that says you have no right to come on my property, make any agreements or contracts and ordinances. having to do with my private property because it's an unlawful and unconstitutional act, and we're done. But at any rate, these people are just arrogant as hell. And you can't believe how arrogant these people are. It's really shocking. I agree. I agree. Well, I think we got to start by taking a look at the oath of office for the state of Michigan, which applies to anybody that works in the state of Michigan, as well as federal employees who work in the state of Michigan follow a similar oath of office. so the best the easiest one is to read the state of michigan to just get oriented here as to who and what they are and then I want to bring in another oath that was also written but if we take a look at the michigan oath of office which is article eleven in the state constitution and there is an oath of office in the federal constitution also But if you take a look at the state oath of office, it says all officers, legislature, executive, and judicial before entering upon the duty of their representative office shall take and ascribe to the following with oath or affirmation. And it says in quotes, I do solemnly swear. I do solemnly swear or affirm that I will support the Constitution of the United States. I would go back to that word, support the Constitution of the United States and the Constitution and the Constitution of the state. And that I will faithfully discharge the duties of the office of blank, whatever that office is. according to the best of my ability. So right off the bat, it says that they're going to uphold the constitution and upholding the constitution means what? Well, nothing to them because they don't know it. Like last night, they swore in some full-time firefighters, which we were never notified of any part of this. They built a new firehouse. And we had nothing to say about it. It's just building their little infrastructure bigger and bigger and bigger at the cost of the township. And now they've got a one hundred and ten million dollar bond. that these village idiots are putting up for us to, I don't know, pay with no voice whatsoever. So sorry, I digress, but go ahead. Well, they do this bond business under reformation or they have the people vote for that. That's not the Republic, that's a democracy. And why they do that is because when that money comes out of your pocket, that millage, to pay that bond, they say, well, you voted for it. That's what you wanted. And they use the kids to do it because the schools are saying, well, don't you want better classrooms? Don't you want a better stadium? And then the kids come home. I did a breakdown on this yesterday of what they have done. As far as how much this is going to cost everybody. Hang on, I'll bring this up because this is pertinent. And then we'll go back to their oath of office here. The cost of this thing per household, hang on a minute, I will find it here. That's what these public functionaries are doing. They're putting those votes out to the public, letting the public vote on it. And you only have to win by... a majority, one tenth of one percent or whatever, in order to make the rest of the country or the rest of the state or district or whatever suffer under that one percent that beat. And we know that the elections are rigged and that one percent is easy to come by. So they're always able to get the money. That's not a problem. So if you vote against the turn down a millage or vote against the millage, if you could get all the people to figure it out and vote against it, which you can't, they still have a way of playing the game. And then they'll put the vote on the ballot every next, the next five elections until... They wear everybody down. A vote that will vote on their side. They wear everybody down. That is not the republic. That is a democracy. The people aren't supposed to vote on millages. They're not supposed to be voting on... amendments, any of that stuff. That's why we hire people in office to do that. And then we hold those people accountable because we can. Why did you raise the millage one percent? Senator so-and-so, I don't like you and I'm going to vote to get you out of office. That's the way we can control the system, except we don't have that control because they turn it over to the public to vote and the majority rules, the majority wins the battle. Let me tell you what this one hundred eleven million dollar millage that they're proposing. So we have approximately twenty eight thousand people in Byron Township. This comes out to three thousand nine hundred twenty eight dollars and fifty seven cents per person. Family of two is seven thousand eight hundred fifty nine fifty seven dollars of a liability. Family of four is fifteen thousand seven hundred and fourteen dollars that this stupid millage is going to put on families. But wait, that doesn't include the interest. That's just the principle. And this thing is never going to be paid off because they are not going to chip down on this principle. They're going to just charge us for the, for the increasing interest until it goes up and up and up and up and up until we are broke. We're already broke, but tell we're broke. They know what they're doing. Okay. Sorry. Back to the constitution, sir. Got off on a tangent. That's okay. The oath of office does say you will uphold the Constitution. That means Article IV, Section IV of the Federal Constitution states we have a Republican form of government. So why are all the municipalities, including the state of Michigan, pushing a democracy? because they are in violation. First violation of the Constitution is the violation of the Republic. They are violating the Republic Article IV, Section IV. That's the first violation of their oath of office. For that alone, they should be thrown out or put on the watch as a treasonous person in our country. And we shouldn't tolerate it. But again, we... don't pay attention to what's going on. And if we don't pay attention to government, government is certainly paying attention to us. They sit there and call their little, little fake attorneys. They're their little bar attorneys who don't have a license to practice law, but they have a private membership card and they sit there and justify themselves in an entirely rigged system. The system is rigged from top to bottom. Yeah, well, that brings me to my next argument, but I'll get that. We'll get that in a few minutes. I want to read another oath of office. Okay. And I'll tell you where this oath of office comes from once I've read it. Okay. The mode and manner in which those results. Wait a minute. Do I got the oath here? No, I got the wrong case up. Hang on. Put the wrong article. I got several articles here I'm working with. I don't have a secretary either. I need staff. I do solemnly swear or affirm that I will support the constitution of the United States and will faithfully discharge the duty of the office upon which I'm about to enter. And that I have not knowingly or intentionally paid or contributed anything or made any promise in the nature of a bribe to directly or indirectly influence any vote at the election at which I was chosen to fill the said office. And I have not accepted nor will I accept or receive directly or indirectly any money or any valuable thing for any vote or influence that I may give or withhold on any bill resolution or appropriation or for any other official act. I love that. Doesn't that sound like a good oath? Sounds like a great oath. That oath came from the Organic Act of the United States. from the ten square miles into the United States and put everybody under the United States, and therefore the government can do whatever they want to to us. Now, that's not what the Organic Act did, but that's the oath of office that the Organic Act has in it. And then they whittled it down to the piddly oath that exists in the state constitutions. But under those two oaths, we still have attorneys. One in particular is Alan Dershowitz, who says, oh, everybody violates their oath of office. It's no big deal. He is an officer of the court, number one. Number two, he is supposed to be a legal, intelligent, if you want to look for that oath that I just read to you, it's section eight. So you got to scroll down quite a bit to find section eight. Okay, keep going. I'm just going to scroll down until I find it. He is an officer of the court. He is a person that supposedly knows the law because he went through all this education to understand the law. And yet he says, hey, everybody violates the oath of office. This is why we have the problems we have. We have people like Alan Dershowitz, and we've given him high praise. I mean, the public has given him high. His name is well known. Last time I looked at it, I was watching the guy that we're promoting, John Eastwood. John Eastman? John Eastman. I met Dershowitz there when I was at Mar-a-Lago and met John Eastman at the premiere of the Eastman Dilemma. It's a great movie and people should come to it. Well, if you watch Eastman's Dilemma, then you see Dershowitz has an American flag and an Israel flag on his collar, on his lapel. He's a dual citizenship person. So who does he hold his alliance to? I would say the United States or to Israel. These people that are in office should not be allowed to have dual citizenship. And if they had dual citizenship, should not be even voted in to be in any particular type of office. Although Dershowitz is not in an office, he has spoke for a lot of public functionaries, including Trump. And you don't know where his true allegiance lies. Who is he? I'm really disturbed about all of this dual citizenship crap that's out there. You've got the Somalis that are up in Minnesota, Ilan Omar, and basically saying that we swear. Yeah, I mean, it's the same thing. You've got the Israeli dual citizens. You've got Palestinians that are flying around the flag of Palestine in the United States. To me, I've got a real problem with that. flying another flag out of the United States. If you want to do that, then go back to the country. When you come here, we're a melting pot of all different nationalities. And so to me, it's really offensive. It's very offensive to me. So here we have a dual citizenship guy saying it's okay to violate the oath of office. Everybody does that, including himself. because he doesn't support the United States Constitution. So he should be sued for, he should be sued by somebody. Well, that's the problem. He admitted to crimes. And so you've got to have your act together in order to do it. And then what are you going to sue him for? You've got to have some sort of be damaged by him. So he should really, our political system should be set up in such a way that if you're going to have dual citizenship, you can't run for Congress. You can't run for any particular office. Well, and if you're an attorney, the attorney is taking oath to the bar. How can you have dual oaths going on at the same time? Well, that's true. But here you have a situation where the public, the news media and so on and so forth, the lying news media is saying that Trump is aligned with Israel. Trump is and they're upset about this and they're making such a point about it. But what about all of the people that are in Congress? that have dual citizenships or maybe we don't even know if they have an American citizenship. They lied about it to get into office. They're in office, they have dual citizenship, and they're supporting Tlaib, Rashida Tlaib flies her Palestinian flag. What is that? That is totally in violation of this oath of office, of not only the state office, the federal office, but even if we take a look at the Organic Act, it's a violation of the Organic Act oath of office. But the Organic Act's oath of office doesn't really exist in our system anymore because it was back in the year, it was never brought forward. But nonetheless, we do have an oath of office in the state of Michigan. Whitmer is off to Japan, is off to some of the other countries, and she's not doing anything with the roads. She's not doing anything about the crime. She's not doing anything about the water system, about the water situation. She's off in another country. Where is your allegiance? Who pays your bill and who are you supposed to be aligned with in order to fix the system? We have, and using Obama's nickname, renegade, we have a bunch of renegades in office at this point. So let's go back to Dershowitz because I like to pick on him. He's really an idiot. And people give him too much, way too much credit. John, do you really think any of these people in office are all that intelligent? Well, they don't elect the most intelligent people in office. No. They pull people that really don't have any idea what they're doing over there. That's for sure. Maybe someday they're puppets. When I was running for governor, I had some woman come up to me. She was running for a state seat, a representative seat, and she was a Democrat. And I said, what kind of government do we have, a democracy or a republic? And she said, we have a democracy. And I said, really? Do you know the difference between the two? And she says no, and then she walked away. This is a classic John Tater. He sets you up and then says, you're wrong. Twenty minutes later, she comes back and she says, okay, what's the difference? You don't know when you're running for an office in the republic and you don't know the difference between a republic and a democracy. These are the questions that we should be asking these people that think they're going to get into office, the Byron Township people. Who are they? Where do they come from? Developers, realtors, appraisers. Yeah. Have you, hey, Mr. So-and-so, have you read the Constitution of the state of Michigan? I've seen it. I know what it looks like. You haven't read it? How did you swear an oath to something you haven't read? These are the kinds of questions that we should be asking them. Oh, they've gotten all kinds of constitutional right now since, you know, when I say constitutional, since I showed up and started handing in their tail. Now they've got a constitution picture on the wall. And so it's like yesterday they swore him under oath to the constitution. And I'm like, pretty extra sure who gave the oath, never read the constitution, nor gives a rat's rear end about it. That's where you ask them, what does Article IV, Section IV of the federal constitution say? Or any of it. Yeah, well, pick on a couple areas. What are the three branches of government? And AOC didn't know the three branches of government. She was running for representative. Come on, give me a break. That's what you get when you get a bartender. Not that I want to disparage bartenders, but that's what you get when you pick up a bartender and put her through, you know, she responds to a casting call. Yeah. Seriously? But she's not the only one. There is a lot of them in office that have no idea what the Constitution says. Actors and actresses. Now, back to Dershowitz. Dershowitz says that the government, this is during COVID. This was a good one during COVID. He says, the government has all kinds of policing powers and they could force you to take a vaccination. That was his comment. And then he cites Jacobson versus Massachusetts. but because he figures people don't read that but we take a look at jacobson versus massachusetts and I'm going to read a paragraph here it says the mode or manner in which those results are to be accomplished is within the discretion of the state subject of course so far as federal power is concerned only to the condition that no rule prescribed by a state nor any regulation adopted by the local government agencies acting under the sanction of the state legislature shall contravene the Constitution of the United States or infringe any rights granted or secured by the instrument A local enactment or regulation, even if based on the acknowledgement police power of the state, must always yield to the case of conflict with the exercise by the general government of any power it possesses under the Constitution or with any rights with that instrument gives or secures. What is the Jacobson versus what? Massachusetts. That was a case about Jacobson who refused to take the vaccine back when there was, what was the one disease back in... It was one of the pandemics that was in our state during the First World War, I think. Okay, cool. I got a new toy here. So there's a notes tab that came up now. So I'm excited about this. And this also case stated that it was only, and I can't find it. I was looking for it a few minutes ago. Not everything I underlined in here. And that was one of the items I didn't underline. Said that it only applied to the only applied to Jacobson and not to anybody else. So this ruling that the Jacobson had to take the shot or spend or pay five dollars, because that was the debt that he had to pay if he didn't take the vaccine. So I had to pay the five dollars and then he wouldn't have to go to jail. But he wasn't required to take the vaccine. And the state police powers didn't. There was no police powers. So why didn't Alan Dershowitz, that's going to quote something like this, know that? Why didn't he read the case? Why didn't he figure out what the case said before he opened his mouth and said something as stupid as he did? That the government has all kinds of police powers and they can force you to take a vaccine. This is unbelievable. Well, again, if we look at who these people align themselves with and yes we can't pick on people because they uh have friends that are not necessarily uh good with the system or not necessarily understand the system but here we have an attorney that is a problem in our society and he's not the only one I could name a whole I could name a ton of attorneys and going to and in including judges including Judge Berg, the one that's ruling on my case. He's a criminal because he swore the oath to the Constitution, and he's been violating it right along. He's not the only judge, though. There's the U.S. District Court, Eastern District of Michigan. That whole building is full of attorneys that are judges that do that, that violate their oath of office. How can any of... The attorneys that are in the office of being a judge, how can any of them even stand because they don't have a license to practice law and the Constitution requires it? I mean, there's error all the way along here. There's no Constitution that requires them to have a license to practice law. Well, they don't have a license to practice law. I understand, but that's BS. That's a totally untrue statement. There is no constitutional requirement for somebody to sit on the bench. You could sit on the bench. I could sit on the bench and be a judge. We just have to be voted in or chosen by the president. Well, look at the chief judge of the Supreme Court, Roberts. He doesn't have a bar membership card. And he's sitting on the Supreme Court. You don't have to have a membership card to be a judge. But it's the Michigan Constitution that, again, is a fake constitution that was set up by that majority, one-tenth of one percent, that put this constitution in power that says that in order to be a judge in Michigan, you have to have practice law for five years. in good standing in order to run for a judge. But yet, in order to practice law in Michigan, you have to have a bar, card in order to practice in court. So in a roundabout way, they make judges or they make people that want to run for judge to have a bar membership card for five years, even though it doesn't say that in the Constitution, but in a roundabout way, it gets to that in the Constitution. So we have all of these judges that are members of the bar, all of the attorneys that are members of the bar, that is prosecutors and defending attorneys, and they're all officers of the court. They're not officers of you. They're not here to protect you. They're here to protect the court and the system. And that's why the system is rigged against the public. They don't follow the Constitution because nobody is requiring them to do it. People aren't requiring them, people aren't holding them to their oath of office. And how do you hold them to their office? You got to sue them. There's no other way. You can't tell them to do that because they take their own oath of office to the bar. So they're there to protect the system, not to protect the public. And that's not the reason why they were there. Check the Declaration of Independence. Why do we have a government? To protect the public's life, liberty and property, not the government's life, liberty and property. That's why governments were set up among men to protect the people, to protect you and me, not to protect the system. but we have allowed it to go so far out of kilter now, and now we're upset and we want to try to bring it back. That's a tough job. But the problem is the public really needs to get on board and understand what's going on. Well, I think you're absolutely right. It is always shocking to me how little people actually know. And I got to tell you, it's like, It's like all none of us knew came into the world knowing anything. And we were never born into a free nation. This thing was already compromised before we got here. So like, I don't like to make I want to make sure everybody knows that it's sort of partly our fault, but not all of our fault. But it is our fault if we don't stand up now when we find out and seek the truth so that we can stand on the truth and the law. That's all on whoever decides to walk away from it because there's enough information out there right now. And instead of doing our duty, we want to play, play, play all the time. Everything's play instead of handling business at hand. And the problem with that is that if we don't handle the business at hand, we aren't going to have the option because they're going to steal it away from us. Well, they are doing that daily. Did you know that with the water wars here, there's a town named Jenison, and they forced the people, they drained the water table in the area. Jenison, Georgetown, they kind of sort of the same, they overlap. But at any rate, they drained the water table, forced the people on, and raised their water bills four times. This is happening all over the state. What does it take to get people off their behinds and to do something about it? That's the question I keep asking. It's like, how long are you going to sit there and let them sit there and keep slapping you in the face until you can't stand up anymore? It's incredible. But I don't know. I don't know the answer to that. Yeah, I know. And that's the sad part about it. Our group, Magnificent Republic, isn't getting the kind of attention that it should be getting by the public. Because the public, like you say, is too concerned about bread and circuses. They're not concerned about what's going on around them and government. It's too high. It's too much worry. I can't handle it. I don't understand the law. I'm too busy. On and on and on. I'm too busy is always a good one. Yeah, I'm busy too. Everybody's busy. But if you don't fix the republic at this point in time, you're going to end up with a democracy and then you're going to end up with a dictator. And like that woman that stopped me at ACO or that called me a fascist at ACO, she has no idea what she's talking about. And I would love to engage with somebody like that if they would be willing to be engaged and discuss and learn. But the problem that we have is that they don't have any clue what the differences between a fascist and a communist or any of the isms are. They don't know what they are because they didn't, number one, learn those in school because they weren't taught. And number two, that takes a lot of extra work on their part to go and try to figure it out, what the difference is between the two and the kind of government or the kind of country that they want to live in. I asked this one person, what's freedom? Well, I can go out, I can come in, I can get in my car and go drive down the street, I can go home, I can watch television, I'm free. Oh, really? Are you free? How is your finances? We didn't get into that. Do you have to pay your homage to the government? Do you have to go to work? Because if you don't go to work, you're going to starve to death. How does that work out? Does the government pay you a subsidy and then require you to do something for that subsidy? How are you free? What is freedom to you? What does that mean? Some of them have no clue what that means. Yeah, I'm sure somebody, I had one of my friends popped up and said, the words are being restricted. So, and said that we're being restricted. Yeah. I, you know, actually I'd hit some restricted. Really? Yeah. The, the show and us being out, out here, but I've heard that plenty of times that, that the, the platforms restrict us. That's why we're on a whole bunch of different platforms in order to somebody, if somebody really wants to find it, they're going to find it. And so, you know, we're being restricted as far as on the internet. Thanks for popping up and giving me the comments. I appreciate that. Yeah, but you know what? The people that matter are here and the other ones that aren't here, maybe they'll find it. So when they restrict us, what do they do? Beep? I think it's an algorithm that they just, they'll just restrict it so that you can't get to as many people as you should have. You know, look at how much content we've put out there. We put a ton of content out there and, but you know, you know, some of the stuff that we can see behind the scenes, the numbers don't matter. None of it matters because they're rigging it all. I have a friend that saw the, the, uh, program that was running behind it said, Oh yeah, the, the numbers that you have don't match what's on the screen at all. But, uh, Further than that, when we go on Brandenburg News Network, which we can see all the, without anybody messing with them, we have over a hundred continuous watch years on that channel without, you know, And I mean, we can see that. And that's one of our smallest channels, which is how do you do that? It's kind of funny. So it's getting out there. I trust God. God has us here. We just keep going. You can't be discouraged by things that can be manipulated. Gee, they're beeping out the truth. Oh, who would have guessed that was going to happen? But you know what? To the point that it is, is it's like when you see good news out there or truth out there, have the courage to pass it on. I mean, we're the news. The network is literally the network of people we know, not the network like a news network. That's not what it is. It's actually the people we know that can pass it on to other people so that if it's valuable, that they can be educated also. But you can't. rely on any other methods. That's interesting. So we just keep going. But think about it, John. Over a hundred continuous watch years on just BNN. And we're on like eleven or twelve different channels. I lost the one YouTube channel, but we'll see if we can get that one back or something like it. But at any rate, and they get reposted in different areas too. So It's kind of amusing to me. They can keep trying. As long as we show up every day, they still can't knock us down. Wow. That's amazing. I really didn't realize that they were canning a lot of or censoring a lot of stuff that's going on. Oh, yeah. That's why if you're not picking up the numbers, that's why. But the point being is that if you keep going, it gets through eventually. It's when we stop. Because of what we think we see, it's when we stop, that's when we lose the battle. We've got to keep going regardless of what we see. Keep going. If it's worthwhile, keep going. Don't worry about the end game. That's God's problem. My argument has always been if you quit, you lose. That's right. As long as you stay focused and stay engaged, you will win eventually. It may take a while, and you may burn a lot of midnight oil getting there, but you will get there eventually. I will get there eventually. I will take these judges down eventually. Since I was ruled against, the three judges, because they, according to Berg, have absolute immunity. Well, that's obviously not the case. I have spelled it out for him that they don't have absolute immunity, but he has ignored everything I wrote. And I have not had an opportunity to go to court and argue, so they're shutting me down that way. But we're going to give him one last swing at the bat to try to fix his illegal behavior, and then we're going to take it to the Supreme Court. And we'll see what the Supreme Court says if judges have absolute immunity, which I know by all of the Supreme Court cases I've read, they don't. They don't. The Supreme Court's not going to rule against twenty or thirty of their Supreme Court cases and say all of a sudden that judges have absolute immunity or even quasi absolute immunity. They don't have any immunity at all. If they step outside the job description, they have to stay within their within their lane. If they get out of their lane, They are usurping authority never granted, and they are guilty of acts of treason as far as I'm concerned. But it's going to require me to do what Trump has been doing, taking it to the Supreme Court and getting a final ruling on it, and then I'll go after those judges. But that's the game. So I could quit. I could have quit a long time ago. This started in two thousand twelve and I lost in two thousand fourteen. Same similar case and I lost. And then in two thousand twenty and twenty four, again, same things. They have done their best to discourage me, but I'm not stopping. Just got to keep going until, you know, I think that that's part of the learning process. is learning not to get stuck on one method. You try it and then you might hone it a little bit and you move things around a little bit. But there's usually more than one way to accomplish what needs to be done. You just got to keep going towards the goal. What I say we do is we close the windows of the escape. The escape tunnels are getting smaller and smaller. And so eventually it'll be closed and there'll be no place to go. But I have to get to that point. It's not an easy task and it's taken a lot of time. And you talk about being busy, I'm busy. If I'm not writing a brief for somebody or myself, then I'm reading court cases and trying to, even sometimes I get up in the middle of the night and I said, ah, that's a great argument. And I got to get up in the morning and type it in before I forgive it. That's happened to me a few times. Do you take notes in the middle of the night? I've tried that in the past and sometimes I've done that, but that's difficult. If I get up and I start writing, then I'm up for the rest of the night. So I try to just put it aside and remember a key word or two that seems to help me. If I remember the general idea, I can put it down on paper afterwards. But yeah, sometimes talk about having weird dreams about reading a court case. Yeah, this is what we dream about. Yes, we start quoting the court cases in the middle of the night. You probably need a vacation if you get to that point in life. Well, I have not dreamed about the case itself or reading the case, but I've dreamed about how to apply a case sometimes, and I'll read it when I go to sleep. Before I go to sleep, I'll read it during the day, and then in the middle of the night I'll say, The light goes on. Oh, my God, that's the case. Ron has had that experience. My sidekick that's on with me on Wednesday nights has had that experience where he'll wake up in the middle of the night and actually he'll get up and do something about it. I don't want to do that. I don't want to do that. I wanted to read you, hang on one second, something that was in, I took a screenshot of this that's in the language for the township here. And I want you to tell me what you hear. So this is connecting to existing improved properties on the sewer. So this basically, it basically says, there's another statement here that allows the township to just make discretionary judgments on things. Connection of all improved properties within the area in which said premises are located is declared a necessity by the township for public health and welfare. So I think when you look at the things that they're saying that they can do, what they're saying is there's no standard. They can just make decisions based on what the opinion of the people sitting in the seats are. And I think that sort of language that continues to come up over and over again, you got to read the language and then start questioning it. start questioning the language. Where is this information? This is their ridiculous little, we're trying to shut up the peasants here. My question is, where does this document exist? Is it in the charter? No, they just decided to do this to allow us not to allow us our decision to hook up to sewer or not. But the thing of it is, is it says right in the documents here, it says that it's basically up to their discretion, no matter what. If the township deems that it's necessary for you to hook up to sewer, you got to hook up to sewer and water. It's like two pounds sand. Again, you're not listening. If that is not in the charter... of the city charter or the township charter, they can't do it. They can't make laws as they go along. That's what the Democrats think they can do. They can make a law to restrict your use of a firearm. They can make up a law that restricts your use of speaking. And they call that hate speech. And they call... restricting firearms, assault weapon bans, and bump stock bans. They can't do it if it's not in the Constitution. They can't do it. And we've allowed them to get away with it because we follow what they say. Oh, they sit down and write a law and this is by the seat of your pants. I write a law and therefore you gotta abide by it. No, you can't do that. If it's not in the charter, it doesn't exist. It's got to be in the charter. That goes back to Norton v. Shelby County. If it's not in the charter, it doesn't exist. So all of the ordinances are completely known? If they're not in the charter, they do not exist. The whole idea of the ordinance, if the ordinance officer is not in the charter, he doesn't exist. It's got to be in the charter, and the charter has to be brought up in front of the public, in front of the people of Byron, and they have to vote on it that we accept this law in the charter. If it isn't in the charter and it hasn't been accepted by the public, it does not exist. Okay. This is absolutely a critical piece of information that apparently I was missing. So I'm going to pull that charter up and let's see. I want to see what's going on and I'm going to read that. I would go to the local... the local board and I would say, please show me in the charter where it gives this authority. Cool. Rather than hunting, let them come up with that. And if it doesn't exist in the charter, then it is a usurpation of authority never granted to them. Now, there are some townships that don't even have charters. That means you're operating as a rogue agency. You don't exist. They have to have a charter. Michigan has to have a constitution. Michigan didn't have a constitution. Michigan would be rogue. It doesn't exist. So we have a Constitution, as crappy as it is, but everything that the governor is trying to pull has to come under the Constitution. The idea of closing businesses down when she did during COVID, she had no authority to do that. Constitution doesn't suspend itself during times of crisis. And she used her authority, which was usurpation of authority, to violate public right, to violate your right and my right and people that had small businesses. She violated people's rights. They should have been suing her left and right. Everybody, if I had a small business and she tried to shut me down, I'd have a lawsuit against her because she had no authority to do that. It's got to be in the Constitution. It's got to be in the state constitution or federal constitution. Remember, they swore an oath to that constitution. They swore an oath to that charter that they would do what the charter says they're going to do. So they can't make laws up as they go along. Otherwise, we will have an office of propaganda because they can make one up. We can do that. No, you can't. Or we'll have an office of gun restriction. No, you can't. It doesn't exist. It's not in the charter. It's not in constitution. It doesn't exist. And that's where the people have to understand what's going on and raise those questions. Show me where you have that authority in writing. not say, well, it was an act that we passed six months ago. No, if it's not in the charter, you can't do that. It doesn't exist. And so that's how you have to protect those people. Well, this is all good. You know, Denise is saying knowledge, skills, abilities should never stop. Read research, step out and try. I've watched YouTube to install, do and perform tasks. Oh yeah. I mean, there's so much information on learning this stuff. It's amazing. I've been looking into recently how the appraisers in the appraiser scam that's going on in the United States, there's so many things we can attack and all of us need to be looking into at least one issue, if not more, because, you know, we've got time and actually this has probably been one of the most interesting things I've ever engaged in in my life. Just learning the law, learning lawfare, learning what's real instead of just going to an attorney, actually going through the process. Not going to say we're going to do it right every time, as you said earlier to your point, but we have to get in and try to swim. If you go to a quote professional, don't expect that quote professional to do something for your benefit. This includes doctors, accountants, you name it. Anybody that calls themselves a professional in a particular field, don't believe that just because they carry a title that they are going to do things correct and according to the law. And if we're not a nation of law, the rule of law then we're a nation of men and we can make it up as we go along that's not what the republic is the republic is ruled by law and the law is written always it's not guessed it's not remember what it says in the constitution on the tenth amendment that if it isn't uh restricted by the constitution or um we should pull up the tenth amendment I got my Constitution because rather than guess my way through it, but it basically says if the federal government doesn't have those rights, if it's not spelled out, and that means it's spelled out by the Constitution, or if it's not restricted to the state, then it belongs to the people. The Constitution spells out exactly what the federal government has as power, and it restricts certain powers to the state constitution. Article I, Section X, Clause III, no state can make anything but gold and silver, coin and tender, and payment of debt. Which means you can't, the state government cannot force you to pay in something other than gold and silver coin. That's basically what that says. So it's a restriction to the state of Michigan. It's a restriction to all the states of the United States. But people don't use that. People get in trouble, they get a speeding ticket or whatever, and right away they reach in their pocket and pay the fine. That's a revenue enhancement for the police departments. That is not what the law allows. But if you've got to play that game, then you pay into the coffers. And you give up some of your labor. because that's what it is. You labored for that money, did you not? So you give up a part of your life to pay a fine that isn't a lawful fine to begin with. This is the nonsense that we are living with. It's really disturbing to see how far we are out of whack with what the original intent is. And I think that's where people struggle with it so much. is that people will say, I can't understand Donna. I can't really understand. This is to Denise's point. I can't understand John or Mike or anything like that. It's because we've gotten so far away, the country has, in accepting their lies, their crap, And their unlawful behavior that when we look at this, we go, I can't even believe I can't believe this. This is too far out for me to believe. And that's the problem is because we're so far away from the original intent. Then ask questions. What don't you understand specifically? Then we can fix it. Then we can talk about those areas that you don't understand. I can show you on paper. I can show you the Constitution where it says certain things. I can read certain court cases which we have, which the Supreme Court, which is the supreme law of the land, Article III, of the Constitution says. The Supreme Court is the supreme law of the land. So I can show you where the Supreme Court rules in certain areas and makes the law a certain way. So what don't you understand? When you listen to me and I give you a whole area of information, you have to pick apart those things that you don't know and then we can talk about those things that you don't know. Otherwise, I continue to talk over your head, which doesn't make any sense to me. Well, and I think that's the process of learning that is really difficult for a lot of people. It's not when you learn, it's like exercising. It's like exercising in a gym. You got to get in there and you got to just keep going. And you're going to start out with like a little three pound weights. Okay. That's what you're going to do. Three pound weights, three pound weights. And then all of a sudden, if you keep at it, After about a month, you're going to see a gain. You might go to the five pound weights, but you're going to look at all the people that have been in the gym for years and years and years that are about six times your size and can lift ten times what you can lift or more. But you can't just jump from step one to where they are. It takes exercise, persistence, figuring things out, looking into things. You don't just get it by going, I'm here. Look at me. It doesn't work that way. It takes work. Well, that's true. You know, people don't want to do the homework. That's my friend. Right. Yeah, they just they just want it to magically appear, which nothing in life that's worthwhile magically appears. The only thing it magically appears is like the clock shot that has no, no actual actual statistics behind it that it works. And everybody's all of a sudden got to take this new little new little shiny thing. You know, it's like anything appears that's here. It's easily gotten is probably something you should question the most. Just saying. Morning Mike, how you doing? Hey, good morning guys. How you doing? Morning Mike. Thought you were listening to the conversation. I thought you'd bring you in for a second so you can, we've got problems at our township right now. The village idiots, I called some of the village idiots out that are sitting on the board last night because contractor told them that we're still without water and we've got sixteen wells out of commission right now. Well, one isn't, which is mine because I told them to stay the hell off my property. And I drilled a new one, but they're going to pay for it. And in the end, it's going to be interesting. But at any rate, we're still out of water in all the wells and the ponds, and they're still drilling. Peggy Sattler laughed when she was asked, why are they still dewatering? Not drilling. Why are you still dewatering when all these wells are being drilled? contaminated or dry, absolutely bone dry. She laughed. She thought that was funny. And so, and it's not funny. It's not funny at all. And so we've got, we've got all this nonsense. So they came up with this language to allow us who are there not to have to, to connect. And it's just ridiculous. I'm gonna let you guys talk a minute. I got a quick take this call, but just continue on please. I don't know if you heard us earlier, but we were talking about the oath of office. I just tuned in about fifteen minutes ago. Yeah, so you missed most of the argument in the beginning where we talked about the different types of oath of office. I beat up on Alan Dershowitz for being an idiot, that kind of stuff. Yeah, he does not impress me as someone who brags about being a constitutional attorney. I know, and he brags about teaching in the university. That's just scary stuff. when you have morons like that teaching at a university. Maybe we should go sit in on one of his classes. I don't know where he holds his classes, probably in Connecticut or Rhode Island. I don't know if you ever read the history of Rhode Island, but Rhode Island was a rogue country, rogue state for a long, long time. They were socialist and pretty bad situation all the way back to the seventeen hundreds. Uh, starring, uh, uh, was his name, Aaron Burr, who was the main socialist that brought in the socialist party into, uh, Rhode Island and how Rhode Island, and then Ron later on talks about the, uh, Oh, I can't even think of the case at the moment. The revolution that was going on in there, they almost had a civil war going on. What about the Doar Rebellion? Yeah, the Doar Rebellion. And Doar was right. Doar was right. But the socialists did everything they could to crunch that situation. So that's a very interesting history about Rhode Island and who they are and where our socialist bent came from and how it spread and that kind of thing. I think if that clown in new york gets elected and tends to impose his socialistic communistic ways he should be immediately arrested for violating his oath to the constitution exactly goes back to the oath of office if you don't follow the constitution you're you're a you're a traitor that's article four section four yeah that's treason you need to be hung I got to show you guys something. This just came up. This is the courtroom of Judge Kristen Simmons. It's live right now. And this is the electors. The third generation of this meeting called a lot of witnesses, at least in the first iteration. But Mr. Rinder was the only one who was present during this meeting. So he's the only one in the walls who could talk and not have his right to remain silent. He testified that at the meeting, there was no intent to defraud, forage, or et cetera, and that all of the proposed Republican electors that he and I were trying to do what they believed was the right thing. Renner testified that they were told that this was an appropriate process by the leaders and the attorneys that were present at the meeting. Renner stated that he believed that crime was being, that if he believed that crime was committed, was being committed, that he would not have a This is currently going on right now. This is breaking news. The people that were being pried for going to Washington and alternate electors. He prides himself on following the law. renner states that this is all about that their actions were part of some legitimate political strategy his understanding was that no one there was to defraud anyone and he witnessed nothing based on his testimony that would demonstrate a culpable mind those are renner's words those are not the worst words this is the people's chief women That's currently going on right now in Michigan. That's the slate of electors that have been really tangled up with a bunch of legal stuff that they were saying were illegitimate. Do you know what happened when Nixon and Kennedy were running against each other and they sent a second set of electors to Washington? Go ahead and explain it. Well, Nixon originally won that election, so they said, and they sent a set of electors. This was Hawaii that sent two sets of electors, Republican and Democrat, to Washington to vote at the Electoral College. Nixon actually was vice president at the time and he opened the letters and he actually won the election for the presidency at that point. But he opened the electors and they had a recount and actually Kennedy won. And there was a second set of two sets of electors that went there, a Democrat set of electors and a Republican set of electors. Same thing that was going on during Trump's to twenty twenty election. And they weren't held in contempt. They weren't held for court. They weren't arrested. None of that stuff happened in that time period in the sixties. But it happened now during Trump. History and tradition. These people that they should have been thrown out of court should have not ever got to court because of history and tradition. It was done already. This isn't anything new that happened. This happened during the Kennedy and Nixon election time period. Same thing, same exact thing. What made it different? Nothing. And yet we're making, we have these three socialist, communist, whatever you want to call them. Whitches. Whores of Lansing. Whitches. Well, you want to be nice. I think they're whores. But anyway. That's nice. These three whores of Lansing are making an issue out of something that history tradition says has been a typical, something that's happened in the past. anyway anyway I digress right so um do you have um do you want to stay on for a while or do you need to get going I need to get rolling unfortunately okay so well why don't you do last words we'll go for a quick break and then then uh I'm gonna play this just for a minute and then I'll be back okay okay So last words. Put our banner up there for Northeastern Republic will be on Wednesday night, Zoom. Sign in, learn some stuff. A lot easier to learn with us than go to the books and start opening books and reading. We have done a lot of the heavy lifting. All you have to do is start paying attention. And you could pick up a lot of the stuff on your own. Start making notes and becoming more aggressive and more powerful. And with that, I'll say goodbye. Just got to show up, guys. That's what you got to do. Show up, put some work in. So thanks for being on today, John. And I'm going to go to a real quick break. And then let's see. We'll be back after fifty seconds, fifty seven seconds with Mike. See you. Bye bye. Hey, Mike, how you doing? I'm going to play this just for one second. Good morning. Defendant Mishawn Maddock did seem to be one of the few defendants that has direct communication with the Trump lawyers' campaign. People's witnesses, or witness Laura Cox, also testified that she received a call from the Trump campaign and lawyers and that the plan, as she knew it, that she's one of the creators of this meeting, like the organizers, that the electors were to convene and sign a document stating that if the election was overturned, the electors would serve their duties. She thought this was a good option versus other documents that had been shared with her. Her testimony was that she provided the document to the Michigan Republican Party staff to present at the meeting. She had a key role there. It was her belief as the person who helped organize this meeting and provided the document that was supposed to be signed that the case pending that there were cases pending that could impact the election that was her belief and that could if that those pending cases could affect the results and that she wanted or that they wanted their document in place in case the election was ever overturned she helped organize this meeting she also testified that she believed that a slate of that she believed that the slate sign would only have power if the election was overturned. This was also based or consistent with a runner's testimony. And so it's easy for the court to assume that this was the idea that was conveyed at the meeting. a people's witness terry land who was an original nominee elector uh was the only witness I believe that the court could reasonably believe or be confident had um some sophisticated knowledge about how the electoral process ran and that's just based on her prior uh role as a secretary of state she testified that she was contacted by a defendant sean maddox to attend the december fourteenth meeting at the request of land says she told that to have the lawyers call her never called her she never showed the court believes that was intentional just like when the other witness testified that they were told not to tell the electors what they were coming here for that that was intentional and that the warriors do not want to disseminate certain information to the electors I believe, based on the testimony of the Trump campaign, lawyers intentionally got that information from certain elections. I think we're the ones who control the narrative of this meeting. And that, again, is consistent with the people's chief witness, Mr. Renner. People's Exhibit twenty-six is a picture of the group at the headquarters after this meeting, after they signed this document. And they're posing, and when the court reviews this picture, it appears as if this group of nominated electors believes that they're documenting something important, that this is some historical or monumental moment for them. Typically, people who are seeking to defraud or deceive do not gather and make a spectacle of that. That would be weird. That would be weird. Investigator and witness took the stand and he had a time on the stand, uh, Okay, I think what I'm going to do is I'm going to go ahead and restart this whole thing from the beginning and let everybody watch that through when we're done today, Mike. And I'm just going to go ahead and have that be the third segment. But this is breaking news on what's happening here at this live Zoom of the Michigan electors. issue that's going on right now. And before I want to comment on it, I want to be able to watch the whole thing because I think there's so much, there's so much legal posturing out there within different, different sides of any argument that, you know what, it's like, yeah, this truth, that truth, and the real truth is somewhere outside of both, both of it. And, and so I think we need to watch it to figure out what's really going on before we comment. So both sides are corrupt and hanky panky. They're all it's a game to these people. It's a game and none of it serves the American people. And you'll notice that they're going after, you know, trying to hang this on the President Trump's attorneys. How many times can they go after this guy before it becomes absolutely boneheadedly crazy you know what I mean it's it's like why don't we keep sitting and spinning on how many ways can we get president trump is what this constantly boils down to now I back the law and I'm not a person who's about personalities and such but when you see as many lawsuits as they have tried to fire against president trump and anybody who's even been close to him you gotta start saying what's really going on here how much money have these people wasted in in what's what's really going on here and I I still and and we're still we're still looking at the absurdities of it you know it's just like I got to tell you something came out on the simpsons that that was one of those simpsons going to predict predict the future thing I sit there and I look at it and go, how long has the Simpson stuff been out there? And you're telling me that we missed it. How did we missed it? There are people that are totally autistic that are going to go in for every detail of that one particular issue. And this somehow got past them. Guys, it's time to question the motives and realities behind what we see, because it's all an illusion and it's all a game. Everything that's going on and regarding the election is a distraction. It is. Distracting everybody from what they need to be paying attention to. And primarily that distraction in DC is to keep you posed at the TV, at the dummy box, whether it be a TV or computer or your cell phone, to keep you entertained, to keep you distracted from what's happening in your own backyard. and and to your point to your point it's at this point in time so few people are actually doing the work they're watching okay who's gonna get who today and that sort of thing it's it's like watching a match at the coliseum in in days of old right but nobody's doing the work they're sitting in the stands and they're not learning anything they're just And I do believe that these elections have to be, they have to be righted going back to there's so many crimes that were committed in our election systems. But the question is, what are you doing about this? Are you sitting and watching this play out on the public stage? Or are you actually doing something? Now, some of it, I get it. We're learning as we watch. Some people are so far gone, they don't even have the first step to know what was wrong. But what's the next process? process that you're going to put in place to actually write this. You're going to run for office. You're going to, are you going to start filing lawsuits against the people that break the law? Are you going to communicate with it? Are you going to show up and say, I am going to hold you accountable. We are going to hold you accountable. You are out of bounds. This is what you've done. And are we even educating some of these people who Maybe they would even want to be educated. I don't know. At this point in time, I've kind of lost faith in that. But we have to step up and we've got to hold them accountable. There's a common denominator in all of this. Fraud? No. I was going to say. Okay. Who's running the show in D.C.? Who's creating the lawsuits? Who's overseeing the lawsuits? Who's judging the lawsuits? What entity is behind all of that? The bar. Bingo. It's the bar. It's the freaking bar is the problem. That's right. The bar is putting on a production show. It's a Hollywood production. And everybody, pop your popcorn, sit down and watch the show. Because we've got you distracted. And everybody bites into it, hook, line, and sinker. Oh, what's going to happen to Trump? Oh, they're going to get Trump. Oh, he found a way to stop this. Oh, guys, stop. It's all gaslighting. It's all BS. Cass and Trey, what's going on in your own backyard? You don't even know what's going on in your own backyard. Between watching sports, oh, my team, my team, the stats, you know, we got to pay attention to that. Go sports team. And the saga, the production, a Hollywood production in D.C., you're not paying attention to what's going on in your own backyard. You don't realize that your information is being stolen from you every single day. that you are being manipulated every single day. People better wake up because you're gonna wake up one time down the road here and you're gonna realize, oh man, did I screw up? I didn't pay attention. I didn't do this. I didn't have all my ducks in a row. And I have a big example. Now, you had someone call in and say, well, I don't understand what John's talking about or don't understand what Mike's talking about. OK, I have a prime example. Now, we just covered this on our Thursday night American Equity Group Thursday night Zoom that's open to the general public. And we covered this on Thursday night. And I'm going to go over some of it here right now because it's interesting. it's important that people understand this and where it's coming from the bar association bar attorneys are not your friend they are the enemy flat out we have the proof and there's gonna be there the federal lawsuits have now started so This is all going to come out for everybody to see. I'm not asking for anyone to help participate in these federal lawsuits. Don't need to. We've got what we need. We have the evidence and we're moving forward. And when this all hits the fan, everybody's going to see firsthand how bad it really is. So but what I want to what I'm going to what I covered on Thursday and I'm going to do a little bit of it here right now is how the bar is behind all of this. And one of the things that we covered on last Thursday was the, I'm just going to read this to you so that everybody can grasp this. And I hope this helps people understand the meddling that the Bar Association is committing against everybody. And this is an isolated situation. This is everybody across the board, everybody. I don't care who you are, this affects you. Now, part of what I talked about on Thursday is the following is based upon the Michigan Trust Code, the MTC, signed into law on June, and was created by the Michigan Trust Code Committee of the Probate and Estate Planning Section of the State Bar of Michigan. And in close consultation with the Michigan Bankers Association's Trust Council Committee. Now on April first, twenty ten, the Michigan Trust Code took effect. And according to the bar, The MTC applies to all trusts, whether they were established before, on, or after the April first, twenty ten date. Now, what's wrong with that picture right there? How is it possible that you can create a law that affects something that has already happened? You can't create retroactive laws. Exposed facto law? Exposed facto, yeah. Now, We have, in the Constitution, it prohibits that, doesn't it? So there's a reason why I'm bringing this up, and you're gonna love this, is that the fact that, again, there's no one that exposes fact to those laws in the state of Michigan. And I want everybody to remember that the obligation of every bar attorney is to the court, not the client, as stated in Corpus Juris Condum, Volume Seven, Section Four, which states, and I quote, His first duty to the courts and the public, not to the client. And whenever the duties to his client conflict in the administration of justice, the former must yield to the latter. So when you hire a bar attorney to write your will, to write your trust, who's the first obligation when they write it? It's the court. Not you, not your beneficiaries. It's to the court. Now, ironically, the Michigan Trust Code, and we found this out. Let's see if we can connect some dots here for some people. The law firm, or at least one of the law firms that were involved in the Michigan Trust Code creation was Dyckman Gossett, PLLC law firm. Now, you've got the proof of that law firm, right? Yes. Okay. And Robert P. Tiplady is the corporate and finance, and he serves as the State Bar of Michigan commentator for the Michigan Trust Code. Now, ironically, this is the same law firm that was involved with Ask My Tax. So what do we know about Ask My Tax? Oh, they want to get rid of Article I, Section X. What's in Article I, Section X? Them prohibited from creating ex post facto laws. So if Ask My Tax passes, they get rid of Article I, Section X, getting rid of their ability to create ex post facto laws. Now the Michigan Trust Code has open range on everybody's wills and trusts. They can create any laws they want and say, well, no, your trust is no good anymore because we passed a law today that says that your trust from ten years ago is no longer any good. See how this works? This is a power grab. This is an asset grab by the Bar Association. The probate judges don't like your trustee. Well, you know what? We wrote it into the trust code. We can replace your trustee anytime we want because we found cause based on our definition. And we're going to have a court-appointed trustee. We're going to have a court-appointed guardian who's going to oversee your elderly parents. They get to decide what medications, where they're going to be housed. And guess what? We're going to sell all the assets. We're going to sell their house. We're going to sell everything they have to pay the bill to the guardian and the court-appointed trustee. So guess what, beneficiaries? You get nothing. because the probate courts and these attorneys are pillaging, pirating the wills and trusts. There's your connection. There's all the dots right there. People gotta wake up to this. Stop using attorneys. Get away from that. You want to learn how to do a trust. We're doing right now a six week segments on how to do trust and the importance of it. The definitions and how to structure and operate and live through a trust. That's what people have to understand. You have to live through a trust. Everything is a trust. Our founding documents, the Declaration of Independence, Northwest Ordinance. Article of Confederation, U.S. Constitution, the Bill of Rights. Those are our founding documents. Those are a trust indenture. We, the people, are the grantor and beneficiaries. The public functionaries are the trustees. They have a fiduciary responsibility to the beneficiaries to do their job correctly according to the guidelines set forth in the Constitution and our other founding documents. They're not doing it. They're creating laws, codes, and statutes to usurp the Constitution. I believe you guys were talking about that earlier, that they're creating laws that says you can or cannot do something in contradiction to the Constitution. Those laws are repugnant. They cannot enforce it. But they do it, and they enforce it through threat, duress, and coercion. You don't follow what we say. We're going to send a guy in a uniform wearing a badge and a gun to force you into compliance. What did the FBI do? They came out with a report in twenty eleven says anybody challenges their authorities and extremists and terrorists, i.e. sovereign citizen, completely contrary to U.S. Supreme Court rulings, contrary to public law, in violation of the intent of Congress. But they're getting away with it. Why? Because everybody sits with their hands under their butt and do nothing. Stop consenting. Start paying, you only get a traffic ticket, start paying them in coffee beans. Everybody pay them in coffee beans. Stop funding the terrorist organization because that's what they are. You look up domestic terrorism under the definition of Congress, what they're doing is by definition domestic terrorism. And that's what's going to come out in these federal lawsuits that we're filing. We're going after them on that basis. So like property taxes, can you pay property taxes in coffee beans? Sure. Sure. Why not? What other lawful tender of an obligation is there? We don't have access to gold coins or silver coins to do this. They took that away from us under the Bankruptcy Act of, we could discharge this through the IRS, through a discharge process. It's complicated. A lot of people don't understand that. And I don't wanna get into the weeds on that, but there is a way of doing it that way as well. I've done it. And so we as the priority creditors, we have the ability to discharge our debts through a process. It's available. We've done it. And so, yeah, there's other ways of handling this. Under the state law, they're asking you to break the law when they ask you to pay it in anything other than what the state law dictates. Gold, silver, silver, federal reserve bank notes. And So why are they asking us to break the law? The tax assessor, the tax tribunal, don't exist in the Constitution. They're de facto pursuant to North Beach Shelby County. Send them a FOIA. Ask them for their de jure documents. I'll tell you right now what the response will be. No such documents exist. Well, if they don't exist, they're de facto. They don't have the authority. Where's the contract? Where's the obligation? There is no contract or obligation. Under, what are property taxes? They're based on products and services provided, whether it be fire protection, police protection, library, whatever it is, they're assessing you for those services. Well, guess what? The ruling under Obamacare, where the Supreme Court ruled that the Commerce Clause and the Proper and Necessary Clause do not obligate any of us to contract with them. We can decide whether or not we want a contract. You know what? I'll take fire protection, but you know what? Your cops, your city cops, your township cops, they're fake. They don't exist in the Constitution. They're de facto. I'm not paying for them. I can learn how to self-govern. Hey, people, that's right. Self-govern. That's what we're supposed to do. Self-govern. Learn how to self-govern. Once you start operating through a trust where you own nothing but control everything and start living through your trust, now you learn how to self-govern. And we don't need them anymore. We didn't need them in the first place. They've way overstepped their authority. The fact that they can create this Michigan Trust Code is a major example of a usurpation of authority. Where does the Bar Association have the delegated authority to legislate this into action? They don't. But they manipulate and they control. Who's sitting on the bench? Oh, some satanic guy in a black robe claiming to be a judge. Are they judges? No, they don't have a proper oath of office. I've yet to find a judge that has a proper oath of office pursuant to Article XI, Section I of the Michigan Constitution. They don't have an anti-bribery statement. They don't have a foreign agent registration statement. And primary is the fact that they do not have a license to practice law, which is a requirement for them to sit the bench under Article VI, Section XIX of the Michigan Constitution. So if they're not judges, what the hell are they? Let me talk about this real quickly. the case that he again was the sole detective on portions of agent shock's testimony caused some confusion or at least appeared to cause him some confusion um John testified that he interpreted evidence he received in review to believe that a defendant, Sherman, relied on guidance from Trump's lawyers, Giuliani and Chesterfield. He testified in this court. I'm going to go a little further because I think they just got off. That reliance on counsel's advice, although not an affirmative defense, does tend to refute the government's ability to prove intent. Agent Schock conceded on cross-examination that there was no public record. That was his response. Agent Schock received emails from Chespro after swearing to an affidavit of probable cause that would demonstrate that there was no agreement between these named defendants to commit a crime. Although he put in his affidavit that the electors were told this would be an alternate slate. Agent Schock testified that he believed Mr. Ritter was doing his civic duty when he signed the very same document that the other co-defendants allegedly signed. So that would mean that they were doing their civic duty if I were to believe Agent Schock's testimony. Agent Schock testified that he moved forward with authorizing the complaint because of a conservative effort to present a slate to cause a pause in the electoral process. But that's not an element of pause. So I believe that they just let all the electors off. And that's the breaking news that was there right now. So we'll go back and we'll rewatch it. But that appears to be that they were all let off and we need to watch it. But I'm watching my phones blow up right now going they should all be in jail. But let's see what happens. Well, that's the other thing. Why aren't they in jail? Why are all these public functionaries who have admitted and have been caught lying to Congress and whatnot, why has no one been arrested? Right. Seriously, why haven't nobody been arrested? If you're going down the road, minding your own business, And the cop stops you for whatever reason and says, oh, you're not cooperating with my questions on the side of the road. Then I'm going to arrest you and charge you with obstruction. They love obstruction. Everything's obstruction. You know, take a knee. As I say, don't question me. Otherwise, it's obstruction. Horseshit. Okay. Bam, that fast you can be arrested. Yet these guys sit there, are caught red-handed with their hand in the cookie jar. Nobody's being arrested. Why? Is it because they're all protected? They're all part of the same club? It's, again, a show. Who's putting on the show? The Barb. Half these people are bar attorneys. You realize that roughly half of the current Senate right now are bar attorneys. One third of the House are bar attorneys. And the rest of them, what do they do? They consult with a bar attorney to tell them what to do and how to do it. You got to wake up, people. You got to know who your enemies are. You've got to know who you're up against right now, and it's the bar. We need to have some just regular people in office. Yes. That's what we need, and that's what we're doing in the Constitution Party right now is we're just trying to get good people that will run for office. Does it sound like a good idea? I'm going to tell you right now. It is going to be a difficult situation because – Unless we replace all of them, we need to replace them all. Every single one of them needs to be replaced. If Trump is listening to this, here's my advice, Mr. President. I want you to have a gathering of Congress in the Hall of Congress on primetime TV with all the fake news there. And I want you to stand up there at the podium and say, okay, to all you here in Congress, raise your hand if you've been holding your office in a de jure status. Nobody's going to raise their hand, and you might get one or two that think they are, but you're going to have a file there that says, oh, you did this, you did this, you did that. Well, that's not acting de jure. So none of you have acted de jure. So guess what we're going to do? Sergeant of Arms, take them all into custody, send them to Gitmo. And people out there watching this, you will now have and conduct special elections and reelect everybody. And I'm issuing an executive order that no bar attorney can hold public office. Bam. I'm waiting for him to take his hand and go and go like this. Like, you know, he always did that. You're fired. You're fired. Yep. You're fired. Yeah, you're all fired. You violated your oath. You're fired. What you've done is a usurpation. You've committed an act of treason. That's a felony. You're fired. You're under arrest. Let's see how good your attorney skills are now. Let's see if your attorney skills can get you out of this mess. Good luck. Well, and the thing that is, is it goes right down to the townships. When you look at the crimes of patronage that they've all committed, this is criminal. This is one big crime syndicate that we see going on in our nation. The Republican Party is part of the crime syndicate. The Democrat Party is part of the crime syndicate. The townships are part of the crime syndicate, the legislature, the unelected clerks that work with the judges, the appointments, all of them. This is organized crime and they all they all protect each other. Eagle is part of it. The DNR is part of it. They're all part of the take on the American people. And it's it's warfare. It's a regular warfare in order to subvert the United States of America, which is we the people. Now, let's talk about something else that goes along with what you just brought up in your situation. There's something called eminent domain. And I had a conversation with a realtor. And I want to put this challenge out to all you real estate attorneys and all you realtors and title company employees or whatnot. I have a challenge to all of you out there. And mind you, it seems like no one ever wants to take me up on my challenge. I'm still waiting for Carla Wagner. Carla Wagner sure hasn't. She's still running for the hills here. I want her to admit on who the attorney is that she's been working on, as well as the economist. Cause I had one of her followers call me and say, she's, she's, she didn't write it herself. He said, he said, she's working with an attorney and an economist on this, which tells me what the hell's going on here. And why will she not answer the questions that the taxpayer party, the constitution party gave her? She did not come back and answer any of our questions. She will not debate you. She's got her echo chamber of, Oh yeah, we got to get rid of property taxes. And it's like, okay, This is not the way to do this. It's the same thing as the other proposals that everybody voted in and then went, oh my gosh, what happened? We lost our parental rights. Did you read the language? No, you didn't. And so you read the headline that was crafted by the State Board of Canvassers who should all be also eliminated and sent on the plane to Gitmo. All of them need to go. Yeah. The Ask My Tax is a Trojan horse. Yes. Because they're looking to get rid of Article I, Section X. And there's an agenda here. There's obviously an agenda. If they were transparent, they'd be having conversations with us. They're not. They don't want to answer questions. This is a Trojan horse. People beware. But in eminent domain... And the reason why I bring this up, what your experience is a form of eminent domain. Now, this goes back to the challenger that I was just talking about. I want to hear from all you real estate gurus out there. Just how exactly is it? Now, this is what I was told by a realtor this past weekend. That elodial status of property does not exist. The reason why it doesn't exist is because the state of Michigan won't allow it. Listen to what I'm saying. The state of Michigan won't allow it. That all property conveyed must be through a fee simple process. I find that terminology very interesting. Now, under the current definition of fee simple means that you're consenting to paying property taxes and you're consenting to eminent domain. One problem. Who changed the definition? Because if you go back to Black Law's dictionary, first edition, be simple meant that your property had a lodium status. Somebody changed the definition. Gee, I wonder who that might have been. So if you take a hard look at what eminent domain is under the Fifth Amendment, it's part of the taking clause. However, part of that states that there must be just compensation. Okay, who determines just compensation? Do I get to choose? Well, according to them, just compensation is determined by departments, agencies, courts, and the assessor. Right, and that's that assessor and appraiser fraud that's going on because they'll come in and they'll fund an entire development, then sell three houses back to themselves on paper for twice the value in the area. Now the assessor has got three comps and appraisers have three comps. to rig the prices of the real estate around the entire area. They're literally rigging this whole game from bottom to top and kicking us peasants off the land who now can't afford all their taxes and fees so they can grab the land and put high-density housing in there. That's exactly what they're doing. She went on to tell me that the other reason why is because the structure of the state of Michigan... is structured under eminent domain. Meaning that at any time, the state can take your property based on eminent domain. Regardless if you're the owner, you own it outright, but the state reserves the right to take it anytime they want under eminent domain. Sorry, doesn't work that way. So, If they're going to claim eminent domain, let's just play that down this rabbit hole for a moment. In order to have just compensation, that's a contract. In order for a contract to be valid, the state of Michigan cannot force you into a contract against your will. That's contractual duress. No contract under duress is enforceable in any court of law. So if there's gotta be a contract, don't you have to consent? Yes, you do. If I don't consent, there's no contract. Therefore, what you determine as just compensation, I don't consider that just compensation. So because if I can live on that property for fifty years and you're telling me that you're going to give me four hundred thousand dollars as just compensation. No, that's not just compensation because what's the value of those fifty years? You're just giving me market value today at a snapshot, not what the benefits are of that property over the course of fifty years. So, no, that's not just compensation. So for them to put these pipelines and do what they're doing, they're claiming they're trying to act under eminent domain. Okay, you want to play that game? You're a body corporate. According to the Michigan Constitution and the laws of the state of Michigan, the township is a corporation, a charter. Charters are corporations. Okay, if you're a corporation, then you damn well better act like it. It means you have to follow the same guidelines and rules and regulations than any other corporation. As such, if they're a corporation, there must be a contract for this. And if they don't, that means they're pirating your what? Natural resources. They're using your land without consent because they didn't give you just compensation. They ran a pipeline through there. They ran utilities through there. Whatever it is, they call that, that's a utility easement. Okay, well, it's still my damn property. So guess what? Here's a validated bill. You owe me monthly X number of dollars. And I'll even consent to giving you the ability to pay in fiat currency, whatever the current fiat currency is here in the United States. Times twenty five. Whatever, whatever value you want to put on that. But the point of the matter is you can start charging them monthly for using your property because are they giving you just compensation for using it? No, they're not. Oh, that's a utility easement. We have the right under eminent domain. Wait a minute. Wait, stop right there. Townships, where did you acquire your rights from? You're a dead entity. Corporations and townships and public functions, they don't have rights. We, the people, have rights granted to us by God and protected by the Constitution. They have no rights. So when they say, well, we have the right to, no, you don't. You don't have any rights. You have delegated authority stemming from us, we, the people. And if we didn't delegate it to you, you don't have it. So if you got utilities, if you got a utility easement on your property, start charging them for it. Hit them with a validated bill and start charging monthly for the use of your property. Let's see how they like that one. So, yeah, get everything into account. Everything has to operate through contracts or trusts. A trust is a contract. Contract is a trust. So this is how we need to get them back in line. Hit them where it hurts, and that's in the wallet. Without the money, they can't do what they do and start shooting down all these de facto departments and agencies within your local municipality. Ordinance officer, where is that in the Constitution? Tax assessor. There's a bunch of departments and agencies that they create that should not exist. And they're funding them because they're playing a shell game with the finances. So everybody needs to wake up and say, no more. I do not consent. What would happen if everybody said, you know what? Nobody consents. What are you going to do about it? Are you going to arrest us all? What's that? You're going to arrest us all? Good luck with that. Yeah, good luck with that. We're done. We have the ability to fire their ass, and it doesn't mean an election process. Remember, when a government no longer is working for the people, it's working against the people, we have the right to remove them. It doesn't say by an election process. What's the best way to fire them? um there's several ways uh there's the administration process that we talked about last time uh you can go after their bonds if their bonds get hit uh I believe it's two or three times uh forcing the bonding company not to bond them anymore if they lose their bond they're done they have to resign they cannot hold office without a bond so if you force them uh the binding company to to cancel them they're done So that's another way. You can put a commercial lien on them and their spouse. You can take them to federal court and charge them for violating multiple Supreme Court cases and or the Constitution itself. Article IV, Section IV must guarantee we the people a Republican form of government. You're not doing it. You're acting as a dictator. This is tyranny. And we're funding it. Stop funding it. Okay. So keep going. I'm taking notes here. This is great. Okay. So, yeah, if they're still pumping water out of there, I would hit them for, you know, I would get to, if you can find out how much water they're pumping out of your area. Oh, they've got, they've well exceeded a billion gallons. They have been doing it for a year and a half, I found out, on the other side of Ivanrest Road. And so when I look at this, what they did on the previous section, Phase I, they've got Phase I, Phase II of deception, and Phase III of deception that goes through a whole bunch of property who were paid for easements. And you can't find out what they got paid because they put it in a fund under the engineering firm that had it, a discretionary fund for them to pay for easements. And now the people that are on the board, one of the guys was paid for an easement. A bunch of these people were paid for easements. And then lo and behold, they broke out lots right next to where the sewer went through on these properties through the wetlands that they drained. And so now they're well over a billion gallons of water. But the phase one part of it, they laid the pipe in the ground. There was so much water in the ground, so much damn water from the wetlands that the pipe floated. They had to dig it back up, dewater, and then put the pipe in. This is how tenacious they have been to get this project in. And they also said that this has been in the works for twenty years. Somebody else says fifteen years. The contractor admitted to one of the residents that they've been here working on this for ten years. And we all of a sudden find out about this out of the blue, no notice. Well, guess what? They don't even have any notes on this that are recorded from before two thousand fourteen. So how can they have been working on this for twenty years unless it was backdoor deals and them shaking their hands and saying, this is how we're going to do it. It's organized crime. It's RICO is what it is. Under eminent domain, they are required to have hearings. They're required to give notices. They're required to give public opinion on this. There's a series of requirements under eminent domain that they have to fulfill before they can do anything. They've done none of it. When they give you three minutes to talk in public comment, in the last one I said, why don't you put a ten million dollar bond, require the contractors to put a ten million dollar bond up in case we have to increase the schools or the roads or whatever for their commerce that they have going on within the township well guess what they blew right past it rubber stamped this thing and then said oh my gosh we need a hundred and ten million dollar bond from the residents because of the increased population that's come in here well guess what I think that we should go back on the developers to get this because they're the ones that that that went ahead and developed the property and said, oh, by the way, peasants, go pay our bills. If they had to pay the bill for the infrastructure build out, there would be no profit in it and there would be no more building. That's how you stop this rampant, thirty four percent increase in population in Byron Township alone. Thirty four percent increase. These people are criminals. Well. But I appreciate your wisdom on this because it's like you look at it, it's not one thing wrong. It's the whole damn thing is wrong. There's not one thing they've done right. So we're stuck in it at that point. Where's all the water going that they're pumping out? throwing it down the drain or they're pumping it without any protection into the woods and creating all sorts of erosion. We've got sinkholes. They're dumping it down the Grand River. So they're literally dropping the water table in the entire area. They're dropping the water table, their sinkholes. They have destroyed the wetlands here. Absolutely mixed materials on it. Stuck sewers down here. to control the water and blah, blah, blah in the wetlands. They have literally destroyed what was remaining of the forty five hundred acres of wetlands. We had great water here. Now, guess what? We've got sixteen houses that have been totally destroyed and affected the water, the water quality in the whole area is complaining about water quality changing because they they they literally destroyed what we had took the water. If they were to stop pumping, do you feel that the aquifer would regenerate itself? Well, this is what these idiots said. They said the aquifer, it's a glacial aquifer. Not unless we got a glacier that comes through here. Who knows? It's like they're saying, oh, you know what? The water table will come back by December one. What are you going to do, brain wizards out there? Start doing like a rain dance? and have a NOAA-scale event come in to refill the aquifer after you dump billions and billions of gallons out. At least we know that stage two were well over a billion. Before stage one, it was probably billions because of the area that they're in that they pumped dry, filled the wetlands in, and put trunk lines in it to build on them. And why aren't the environmental Nazis and wackos out there going crazy? No one has showed up. Eagle hasn't shown up. The Drain Commission hasn't shown up. No one has showed up to help as they literally destroy the lives of Americans here. No one. So they're pumping water from one side of the road to the other side of the road and just dumping it, lowering the aquifer to where the local wells are going dry. Yes, they're dumping it down the drain to go down. The entire drain area is like a basin. That starts up here and it goes all the way down to the Grand River and out to Lake Michigan. What they've done is they have literally pumped this whole thing down and threw it all out the Grand River. So now everybody's got to hook up to their municipal water and they can build anywhere they want because they've gotten rid of all the wetlands. And Eagle had the audacity to tell me that they weren't going to come out and oversee it. and we've got it all recorded all of it but this is this whole project to eliminate the water is so that they can put the sewer lines in that's it yeah and they're dumb enough that they're not even planning to put the water in so they're like telling the residents they told the well drillers don't drill any more wells because the contractor told us that the water was going to come back by december how are you going to do that when you just pump the entire thing dry and And now you've got, what are you going to do? Like, do your rain dance and make sure that we have enough rain to refill this thing? How are you going to do that? How can they even predict something like that? And these houses are getting brought bladders of water and IBC containers. And the city, the township is lying their ever-living asses off and saying, we only have two houses that have a problem with no water. They're lying. They're flat out lying to anybody that calls in. You know what? And everybody out there should be calling these bastards and telling them you're lying. And we're going to stand up with Americans who have had their homes destroyed. They could even condemn all the homes that don't have water in it right now. And nobody gives a rat's rear end about it. And you know what's really sad? What's really sad is to watch all the people go, well, you know what? They're really going to have a fight if my well goes dry. Really? Is that how it works? You only fight when it's in your own interest? I went out and told them to pound sand and drill the well and said, get the hell off my property and don't you step one foot on it because I'm going to do what I'm going to do and you've got no jurisdiction. And that's exactly what I did. I have water right now. I was out of water, and I had to drill a very expensive well to get to the water because they drained it. And now they're saying that it's only going to affect wells that are only sixty feet deep. Guess what? The well drillers are saying, and other people that are out here are saying, there's no way that they can't even assure that a well at a hundred feet is going to have water. They can't assure any of it. But they're telling everybody, You can't drill wells. Don't drill any wells because the contractor said it's going to come back in December. Do you realize that's August, September, October, November, five months, half a year that they're even admitting that these houses will have no water? Any chance they put that in writing? We got it all taped. Okay. Hold their feet to the fire. If the water doesn't come back by December, guess what? It doesn't matter. They don't have it now. Who in their right mind would say it's okay for them to take your ability to have water And that you have no water for half a year. And then try to snow the drilling contractors to say, don't drill. You can't drill any more water. We don't want you to drill any more water in Byron Township. Because the contractor told us it would come back by December. That's still five months out of water, people. First off, the township has no delegated authority or jurisdiction to tell anybody they can't drill for another well, period. They don't need a permit to drill that well either. They did it and they did it. Just hire the well driller. And if the township comes on the property, arrest them, trespass them. Charge them with trespass and have them removed from the property. The audacity of them to go to the well drillers and tell them, you can't drill. We don't, you know, don't drill any more wells in Byron Township. The contractor said that it would be back by December. And I looked at him last night at the meeting and I said, if you think this water table is going to be back by December, you're an idiot. Regardless, if you don't have water now, drill a new well and just charge the township for it and take them to federal court on it. Simple. Don't go to state court. They will not get remedy in state courts. They can't. The state courts is a sham. All they do is protect it. They still don't have a publicly available permit to dewater. And they have none. They have none. So just go ahead and do it. And they cannot interfere in a contractual agreement as an outside third party to that contract. So you're hiring a well driller to come in. That's a contract between the homeowner and that well driller. The township has no authority to interfere in that contract, period. Well, their bullshit ordinance that they put out there last night that said, basically, there's no standard. They can just decide, the township can just decide and say, you know, they protected themselves in this language where they told everybody, we've merely made progress here. We're going to allow you to not hook up to this sewer system. And I was like, don't you ever use that term aloud with me. And then I read the language. The language still states that they have all rights to come onto your property and determine with no standards outlined other than just their discretion and opinion to say, oh, now you got to do this. No, no. These people deserve to be in jail. The Supreme Court ruling in Obamacare flat out stipulates under the Commerce Clause, the proper necessary clause, we do not have to contract with them for anything. Right. Nothing. They just can't come on your land. I've had DNR come on my property. I've kicked them off. I've had the assessor try and come on the property. They've been booted. I do not allow them to come on the property, period. They don't step one foot on your property. Done. Done. Yep. And that's something everybody's got to get some guts in their personal fortitude to sit there and fight and tell them, no, you've got to stand. And I got to tell you, I'm really proud of the people in this area because they're starting to show up for the meetings and they're starting to get this and speak out against it. At first, there's a lot of them that are afraid of retribution. And right now the township is blaming me that they won't help with the wells in the area. And we've had several people say this, that the township is blaming Donna Brandenburg because I've got a lawsuit against them right now. So they're not going to go help. And so now they're making me the target of the reason instead of it being their own failings. Oh, that's going to work out good for them because the amount of defamation and slander that's going on is just unbelievable because I dared to stand up and say this is not happening. Yeah, I would bring a federal claim against them for that. Yeah. I would do the administrative process on them, default them out, and take it to federal court. Well, I'd love any help you can give me right now. I'm like on a, on walking the plank with all my swords out on every side, trying to fight every single issue out there, keeping a political party on the ballot and, and you know, still trying to still trying to just do everyday survival. And people tell me, they're like, I'm so busy. I'm like, hold my beer. I get up at six, five, six o'clock every morning. Not only do I have a farm, but I get up and I set this thing up. I get, I set the whole thing up. I, I, I, promote it. And I don't get done until about twelve o'clock. And then that's when the rest of my day starts. Today, I got to go and serve papers. We have to go serve the opposing attorney papers downtown. And, you know, it's like we're all busy. That's a crap excuse for anything. That is a crap. Turn your TV off, for gosh sakes. You know, look at how you're managing your time and what's important. Do you want a country? Do you want your families to be stripped of everything through these unlawful trust attorneys and this crap like X my taxes going through that only appeals to the village idiots who wants to be part of, of, of the club, the in club, the index, my tax club, but nobody read the language or figured out what's going on. Or are you going to get in there to actually fight? There's a question, right? No. Yep. It's incredible, but I really appreciate your help on this because, honestly, it's one of those things that, you know, there's a few of us that are fighting and fighting the good fight. We have so much evidence and stuff documented. When the hammer gets dropped on this, it's going to be huge. Mm-hmm. What's really a shame is how few people will back an effort like this and go, oh, my gosh, this is really wrong, but it doesn't affect me. So I'm going to go have a sandwich. You know, it's like it's like get in the game and say, I'm going to make it my issue to pass this stuff on to the people I know because it's coming to you next. This is going on across the state. What they're failing, they're short-sighted. Because they're just looking at them here and now. They're not worried about their kids, their grandkids, and generations to come. And they're only looking at the short-sightedness of themselves in this equation. They don't believe that it would affect them. They don't believe it's going to affect their kids or even their grandkids. They don't understand how manipulative these people are. What are you going to do when your kids or your grandkids are coming to you and saying, what do we do? Yeah. Grandma, grandpa, what do we do now? You want to hear something funny? This is how stupid these people are. So I walked past Scott DeBergen, who's a trustee who was standing there with a bunch of people I know. And under his breath, as I walked past, he's like, but she doesn't have any friends and that sort of thing. And I'm like, not friends like you lying bastards that sit up there on. I didn't say a thing, but I'm going to bring it up the next board meeting. This is how they talk and relate to the people around them. And it's like, Scott, you're going to get this handed to you. It's like, because I wouldn't take you as a friend if you were the last person on the planet at this point in time. You and your ilk that sit up there on that board, that you have disqualified yourself for anyone that I would ever consider to be a friend. And he had the audacity to say that under his breath. I just walked past him. I'm like, you know what? Keep it up, buddy. Just keep it up. Because your sorry tale is probably going to be ending up in jail with the rest of these lawbreakers who have absolutely committed acts of treason and crimes against humanity by depriving people of a natural right, God-given right, which is water. Keep it up, buddy. Keep talking. This is just great. Love it. I hope you hate me more than any person on the whole planet. It means I'm over the target. Fantastic. History has a way of repeating itself, and that's what they don't look at is history. When you suppress a people long enough, what ends up happening? They rise up, and they take out the suppressors. Yeah. And they're begging for it. They are begging for it. So that Scotty boy out there that knows it, and Tilma and Don boy out there that knows it, and Peggy girl that knows it out there, I wouldn't sit at a table with you people to negotiate anything. You're already, I don't negotiate with terrorists. I don't negotiate with people that have committed crimes against the United States. You lose. There's no negotiation with people like that. Yep. You blew it. You wrecked your chances to sit down at the table with us. And don't give us your crap ordinance that just basically gives a bunch of misleading, lying legalese to try to calm the peasants. Because it ain't going to happen. Ordinances are not effective upon the people. Ordinances are only effective upon the public functionaries themselves. They think they can create an ordinance to do whatever the hell they want. Got news for you. You cannot create an ordinance. You cannot create a state law that deprives or usurps the Constitution. Period. I don't give a rat's ass what you think or anything else. Furthermore, more than likely, the board that voted it in is violating the Michigan Constitution of the separation of powers because I'll lay a ten to one. If you FOIA who's the executive branch and who's the legislative branch of your so-called charter township, they're probably the one in the same people. So we're the separation of power. You know what they do? And they're on different boards. So you've got Joe Pitch, who's on an oversight board in the zoning, in the planning board. He was the project manager for Voss Construction. So they're all working together. in this system in order to build development. I've already gotten certified responses from zoning boards and zoning that their office is de facto. They have no authority, period. Yeah, and they sit up there with their little tribunals. They don't have township council meetings. They have tribunals. And they'll look at you and say, I'll allow you to do this. You've got three minutes to talk. And if you, Tillman said it last night again, he said, yeah, we're going to give you three minutes to comment under public comments. And if you go over that, we will have you removed from this meeting. I want you to think about this, everybody. This is how bad this has gotten. And I guarantee you. That you have it going on in your township. It's not just Byron Township. It's the whole state. Because they're getting direction from the, what is it? It's like Michigan Township Association or something like that. Telling them in their little bar card, country card holding member of the bar. It's like a country club card. That's all it is. Let me give a five-second remedy to anybody out there listening. If you get a ticket, I don't care if it's from your ordinance officer, I don't care if it's from a city cop, state cop, township cop, or even the sheriff who's supposedly the de jure office. Two things. One, get into court. As soon as that prosecutor opens their mouth, object. Why? Because statements of counsel are never faxed before the court. Put that SOB that he has to swear in under oath before he makes any comments on and for the record. Two, when he opens his mouth again, object. Judge, it's come to my attention that he does not have a license to practice law in the state of Michigan. Guess what? A bar card's not a license. So he can't prosecute. Hey, judge, while we're at it, let me see your license to practice law that's a requirement under Article VI, Section XIX of the Michigan Constitution. That means you're not a judge. We're done here. Even if they push you through and threaten you with contempt and everything else, that if you don't knock the crap off, we're gonna proceed. Okay, fine. We're gonna assess you a hundred dollars. What specie of payment do you want? They won't answer. That's for you to determine. So pay them in damn coffee beans. Stop funding them. If everybody does this, what choice do they have then? How are they gonna handle that then? Do you realize how many people are sitting in jail right now for failure to pay a debt, i.e. child support? How does that fix the damn problem? Yeah, it breaks everybody, and it takes the money away from the kids and being able to actually take care of your family. You're creating a debtor society. You're creating a slave situation. Well, gee whiz, the last time I checked, the Mission Constitution and the U.S. Constitution prohibit debtors' prisons, and yet we have all these people sitting in jail for failure to pay a debt. And I can say that with the utmost confidence because I was arrested and put in jail for thirty days and solitaire for thirty days for failure to pay a debt because the court never issued an order, never sent a validated bill, and refused to identify the specie of payment. because they didn't want to answer those questions. I asked the judge right there in the courtroom, give me a copy of the court order that you claim I'm supposed to be a debtor on. They refused to even give me the court order. They never gave me a validated bill. Nothing. Instead, she sent me to jail. That was Shawna Murphy out of Livingston County. Put me in jail for thirty days in solitaire for failure to pay a debt. So you said it was a court and never issued a court order. No validated bill and no species specified. Correct. The judge went so far to say because we had the probation officer on the stand under oath and he couldn't answer questions. So Judge Murphy was answering on his behalf. And when I drilled him on the specie of payment, she said, well, we'll take gold. I said, Judge, I'd love to pay you in gold. But unfortunately, under Proclamation twenty thirty nine twenty forty, we the people don't have the ability to pay in gold, silver, silver certificates. And she just threw her arms up. She was pissed. And bam, thirty days. Wait a minute. What's wrong with this picture? Proclamation. What was it? Proclamation what? What? Twenty thirty nine and twenty forty. Nineteen thirty three under the Bankruptcy Act of nineteen thirty three. So, yeah, this is the Bankruptcy Act of what? Who's really committing the crimes here? Bankruptcy Act of what? Cool. This is cool. I got a new toy here, guys. I can actually take notes. It's fantastic. Sort of. These people are criminals. They are. They're domestic terrorists, period. They are. They're domestic terrorists. And I think until we call them out for what they are, And how they have violated our rights instead of the Constitution and all of this only applies to them. It doesn't apply to us. We don't have constitutional rights. We have God-given rights protected by the Constitution. Right. And they do not have the delegated authority to deprive us of those rights for any reason. Nothing. Nothing. So I'm sorry, but it's time to call it what it is and deal with it and handle it the way we're supposed to. We are supposed to self-govern. I'm sorry. They're fired. We're done. And if you raise arms against I, you know what? I will defend myself because I have that right to defend myself against all invaders, foreign and domestic invaders. So if they want to raise arms against the people, they want to actually declare war against the people. And that's what they're doing is declaring war against the people by depriving us our rights, by pirating everything that we have. They're declaring war. This is an act of war by them. And they are domestic terrorists. We can prove it. We have the FBI report. We have the HB-. We have emails. We have the documentation to show and prove it. And that's why now we're going to federal court. We're going to give the federal courts, because we know we can't get remedy in the state courts. We're going to give the federal courts an opportunity here. I want Kash Patel, Pam Bondi, and Donald Trump. I'm going to subpoena their asses to court. because I wanna know whether or not this is still being enforced. I wanna know if it is, why? How is this not an act of domestic terrorism? How is this not an act of treason on the part of every public functionary that's enforcing it? Every cop out there, city and township and the sheriff's department, the state police, if they're enforcing this and we have the proof, we know that they are, is that not an act of domestic terrorism? Is that not an act of treason on their part? Sure and the hell is. We had another sheriff that stood up yesterday and said something about the township said, thank you for protecting us. I was like, screw all of you. I walked out of there just so disgusted with the whole thing. It's like, yeah, sorry. We've got a peasant uprising here and clearly we're not important. They're going to figure it out. It is a police department. It's a policy enforcement policy. This is the sheriff's office, for gosh sakes. The sheriff's department, there's not one constitutional sheriff anywhere. Yeah, that's true. And I actually happen to know somebody who lives next door to our county sheriff. And that person is using her influence in order to change the road so she can go and retire. Public money. Yeah, the only thing they're worried about is their paycheck and their pension. That's it. And you know what? The other problem we have is the majority of America is the same way. They won't stand for anything unless it immediately affects them. It is so disgusting. I'm just going to say it. Shame on everyone that has that mindset. If you see somebody that's in trouble, you have to stand up and help defend them. How can I help? How can I help? I've seen your rights violated. How can I help? Guess what? I'm going to be willing to put my time and effort into, into standing for other people. That should be the first words out of everybody's mouth is defending and protecting each other. You know what, when we do, when we do that and we all start protecting everybody's rights, we protect our own. You can't, you can't walk away from somebody else's rights being violated without admitting and giving your consent to to watching their rights being violated. Therefore, you're prior to the problem. Not to go down this rabbit hole right now. This will be a conversation on another day. Yeah, go ahead, Mike. It's just fun. We're on a roll here. But think about this, people. What right now is one of the big things that they're pushing. They're pushing to capture all of your biometrics. Oh, yeah. Now, what are they doing with it? How are they using it? That's your property. Wake up. If they're stealing your biometrics to use in nefarious ways, you have a claim against them. I highly suggest that you put all your biometrics in a trust. Put your biometrics into a trust. Now if they take and steal your biometrics, now the trust can bring a claim for damages and harm. Food for thought. That's great. Well, you know, what's really interesting is that we've also been taught, we're going to go back to the faith side of this. We've all been taught about Gentile Jesus with a lamb sitting on his foot. We can't say that because that's not Christian, Christian, Christian, Christian, Christian, Christian. You know what? I'm sorry. But Jesus turned the tables over when he was done with it. And I mean, I think I don't think what people are ready for him coming back the second time, because the first time he came as, you know, as the savior of mankind. Second time he comes back, it's going to get real and it's not going to be it's not going to be as peaceful as one would hope. And I think that the failure. of our modern day people who believe that they're in faith has done nothing but let Satan capture people and turn them into a bunch of wimpy, namby, pamby nothings that stand for nothing, that refuse to talk the truth because God forbid you're not going to want to make somebody upset who's hurting another person. We're just going to negotiate with terrorists. We're going to negotiate our way out with psychopaths. It's not realistic. yeah and it's like we need to start waking up putting our head in the game and stop getting out of having a fantasy world the disney world mindset that as long as it looks good on the face we can't see what's going on behind the scenes and won't even look at it the world we live in is not what we think it is and we're going to have to start standing up and seeing things for what it is and if we if we offend somebody I would hope we could do it without offending them. But you know what? When somebody doesn't care about you or your family and they don't, why would you sit there and try to negotiate with them when they know they're breaking the law? They know they're hurting people. You know, that guy that stabbed that Ukrainian woman in the bus. He knew what he was doing. He absolutely knew what he was doing. There's so many. There's so many. You want to talk about hate crimes and such. Oh, white privilege. Really? We're seven percent of the planet. Tell me where the privilege is here now. You know, it's like, I'm sorry. There's this is this is crap. And improve it before you say it. Prove it. Right. Yeah. There was a man and I should throw this out here. There was a man and a woman who were kidnapped and tortured horribly. And I mean, horribly tortured, you know, cutting off body parts, setting them on fire. making the girl watch what they did to her boyfriend. It's horrible what happened. Has the news brought this up? Not a peep has come out over this. And so, you know what? The war we're in is a war of good and evil. You can't put a race on it. You can't put a gender on it. You can't put anything on it. Either it's good or it's evil. End of story. And I seriously mean end of story. I'm going to post this just a minute. It's going to be real shocking for everybody. You can go to my Telegram channel and look at it. And I hope you're shocked when you read this. Because why is it that no one really knows about it or what happened here? And I'm absolutely shocked. It's horrifying. It's absolutely horrifying. And nobody says a thing. Right. Neighbors are out of water. Does anybody say a thing? Nobody's saying a thing. It's going to take me a minute to find it, but I'm going to find it and I'm going to post it. And I think this is noteworthy. I really think this is incredibly noteworthy. And we're going to have to figure this thing out because it's just unbelievable what's happening. Just hang on a minute because I think this is, I'll put it up on screen. You want to see how despondently evil people can be? Are you going to negotiate with people like this that cut body parts off of two people? This happened just recently. I'd like to, but we're pushing eleven thirty. OK, well, I'll put it up on Telegram and then, you know, we'll talk about this later. But realize this crap is going on and those people in office, they're condoning it because they're not they're not going after this and stopping it. They're letting them out of jail in order for them to go back and commit a repeat crimes. So they're, they're part of it. So, but anyway, let's say a prayer and then we'll go to end things. And then we're going to talk about more of this stuff next time. And this kind of hard hitting stuff has got to be talked about. It has to be addressed. Dear Heavenly Father, thank you so very much for choosing us to be here now. And, uh, We're willing to do whatever it is that you ask us to do in order to stop this evil that's going on and help people understand what's going on, how their families are being hurt, and how this is a direct reflection of this country turning its back on you. We ask you back into our lives, into our schools, into our churches, into our communities, into the hearts of men and women everywhere that you would help us and that you would grant us more days of peace and harmony together. But we got to get rid of some of this violence that's going on here. This is unbelievable and it's heartbreaking. Thank you for letting us be able to see the difference between good and evil and not jump in with the evil. We ask for your protection that we would always see what's wrong, that we would not be misled, that we would have the discernment coming from you, only from you. It's not of us, that you would lead us, that you would give us your protection, your discernment, and your help in all things. We love you very much, and we want to be just like you. You're beautiful. You're wonderful. We're in awe of you, and we thank you for everything you've done for us. In the name of Jesus Christ, we pray. Amen. All right, last words, Mike. Just, you know, I'm out there making waves, kicking the hornet's nest. And I used to go to a lot of public functions, a lot of city hall meetings, township hall meetings and that. And I usually had a closing statement. And I think I'll use it now. What I would close out with is this. I don't do drugs. I don't believe in suicide. I'm sure as hell not accident prone. Something happens to me, everyone's going to know who it was. You guys out there are doing everything you can to create a civil war here. And I think that your rhetoric is more harmful than you think. And I think it's done on purpose. You are trying to self divide this country constantly. You're trying to create these situations like sanctuary cities and different things like that. You're creating and pushing for a civil war. And I guarantee that if that actually does happen, if you push this to that breaking point, you are going to realize and regret your actions because we the people will rise. We the people will be victorious because that's just the way it is. You are the minority. When it all comes down to it, you, the public functionaries, are the minority. So get that in your head. If you think the military is gonna back you, they're not. The military will not back you. The military will back the people. The military will follow the constitution and everyone who follows that. So you're creating a situation that is explosive. Don't like the views. Don't like the views. Because you're not going to be able to, you will not be victorious in this. It's time that you will be held accountable for your actions. And that's just the way it is. You did things you weren't supposed to do. You know it. You know, when I go into a court and I call the judge out and they're like, oh, yeah, okay, yeah, you caught us that time. And then you turn right around and screw the next guy that comes behind me. You are doing that with intent. You're doing that with malice. You're doing it knowingly. So don't give me the crap you don't understand or didn't think or anything else. There's no excuse. None. Well, last night when they said a prayer, I was like, yeah, you're going to say a prayer and use that to screw everyone in this room. I am disgusted with this. You want to talk about taking the Lord's name in vain? That would be it right there. Well, they also take a pledge of allegiance to the Republic and then turn around and do everything to the contrary. Everything is backwards? If they're moving their mouths, they're lying. Every one of them. And if you hate politics, good, you should. I hate it too. I never wanted to be governor, but I was asked and I, and I decided that I would step up because of who asked me, but I'm going to tell you what it's like. It's like, I have never in my wildest dreams imagined. I would see the lack of integrity and ethics that I've seen. I've seen some very good things too, but the depths of depravity that these people have is just shocking to any normal human being. If you want to have a career as a public functionary, act de jure, and we the people will back you. And we will back you as long as you want to hold public office, so long as you act de jure. If you don't act de jure, we're not going to back you. We're not going to support you, and we're going to be done with you. So if you want a career as a public functionary, I don't care what it is, act de jure at all times, and we'll support you. And we don't negotiate with terrorists. Right. Done. Yeah, when you're constantly saying, well, we'll have you arrested if you don't comply, that's threat, duress, and coercion. Or we're going to have you like Don Tillman, Donny boy up there. It's like we're going to have you removed from this meeting. Really? Maybe we should remove your sorry behind from this meeting. Mm-hmm. Yeah. I guess I could call for that. Let's see how well that works. They need to be removed because they've broken the law. Sheriffs, I think you should remove these people. Pray have the audacity to threaten and coerce us. Maybe I'll do that the next meeting. That could be kind of fun. MCL, seven, six, four point one, six. Anyone who commits a felony in your presence, you can institute a citizen's arrest on the MCL. What was it? Seven, six, four point one, six. I love people that know, know things that I don't and can recite it. And if they commit that felony in your presence, that's all you need to have happen. Now, you can place them under arrest. Doesn't mean you have to take custody at that moment. You can ask if there's a sheriff deputy in the room. Sheriff deputy, will you take custody of my prisoner at this time? They'll probably say no. Fine, you're fired. You're in dereliction of duty. And whoever the public functionary is, you know what? I'm not going to take you into custody at the moment, but guaranteed you will be taken into custody down the road. So you don't have to take them into custody at that moment in time. You've already placed them under arrest. You read them their rights. Now that you've read them their rights, guess what? Anything they say will be used against them from that moment forward. Do that to a judge. Judge can't sit on the bench on the case anymore until the matter is resolved. If they commit a felony in the courtroom, you place them under arrest, read them their rights. They cannot proceed with the case. Well, it's all interesting. I think we're learning every day more and more what it is and what it means to have a constitutional republic and how to fight back from these criminals. We're going to do it. This is going to be a kind of fun journey. Any fight you get into for a just cause is going to be a little bit out of our realm of wanting a peaceful existence until we achieve a better behavior and standard out of these people. And that may be removing them. May absolutely be removing them. You know, I think God has a sense of humor sometimes, too, because sometimes he jumps ahead of us and makes it easy for us, which is kind of a little easier. It can be kind of fun to watch this and, you know, exactly watch what's going on with people who may have had, I don't know, things happen that they didn't expect. But, you know, I'm not saying I'm not saying we do it. We don't do that. We follow the law. But sometimes God throws him a curveball in their lives to wake them up a little bit, which is a good thing. Well, with that said, everybody, we're going to call it quits here. Everybody go to brendaburkegovernment.com because I'm the best non-conceder who's ever not conceded in the history of the United States of America. And I'd like to have a discussion with the rightful president of the United States, President Donald J. Trump. Cowboy boots. I wear them better because I wear them every day. We talk about this, that. We restore the rule of law all the way to the townships and neighbors and such. And then guess what? It's going to be a great day. I really have a lot of faith that things are going well. We're learning to fight. We're learning our rights. There were a couple of ladies there last night. They're like, I'm so depressed. I don't even know what to do. I'm like, hold your chin up. We're going to fight this. And guess what? You've got to go forward. And when things go badly, that's not the time to fold in a fetal position. That's the time to get up. And that's when you kick those afterburners in. You get right after them. You don't stop. You hold them right to the fire and you hold them accountable. You don't back away from a fight. If your child was being threatened, wouldn't you do everything you could to protect them? Well, guess what? Your child, your grandkids are being threatened by these people. When are you going to step up and protect them? Yeah. You've got to stand in the way. Well, I'm going to post that little thing on my Telegram channel and my X channel. You're going to be a little shocked about this, anybody that wants to look at it. You know, just read the story. There's pictures there and such. I won't put in the actual actions because it's not the actions. It's what happened to these people. And once again... Nobody says anything. It hardly made a blip on the radar of the fake news. So guess what? If we want news to get out there, we've got to say, guess what? I'm going to be part of this network. And the network means passing it on to your friends and family that don't even know. that the threat is on the doorstep. So with that said, God bless you all. God bless all those whom you love. God bless America. Have a great day. Thanks for being on today, Mike. Tomorrow I'm on with Liberty Essentials in the morning and then Greg Martini with notices. And I'm really loving this notice thing. It's really amazing. And all these processes to learn, you know, nobody knows everything. Nobody. And we didn't start out knowing anything. The only reason why Mike knows what he knows. And I know some of the stuff that I know is because we got in it and basically jumped in the pool and started swimming, learn to swim. Are, were we great swimmers? No. Are we great swimmers now? Depends on the water we're in, I suppose. But as that changes, we change too. So have a great day and I'll see you guys tomorrow. Hang on here, Mike, and I'm going to end the stream a minute. And I've got so many notes here. Oh, my goodness. This is like going to be an epic. It's going to be an epic decode here when I look at my notes.