Published Feb. 10, 2026, 9:01 a.m.
9am BREAKING NEWS - First off … a huge THANK YOU GOD!!!!!! This is a win for all Americans who believe in truth and justice. We watched the hand of God Almighty deliver justice!!!! Today, defendants Shawn Wilmoth, of Warren, and Willie Reed, of Pompano Beach, Florida, were convicted by a Macomb County jury of conducting a criminal enterprise to defraud the gubernatorial campaigns of Ryan Kelley, Perry Johnson, James Craig, Donna Brandenburg, Michael Brown, and Michael Markey, as well as judicial candidates Tricia Dare, John Cahalan, and John Michael Malone in the 2022 election cycle, announced Michigan Attorney General Dana Nessel. “The fraud perpetrated by the defendants robbed eight candidates of their chance to appear on the ballot, defrauded their campaigns and denied millions of Michiganders a choice in the 2022 gubernatorial election,” said Attorney General Dana Nessel. “I am proud of the diligent work my office and the Department of State has done to secure this conviction. We will continue to investigate and prosecute instances of election fraud to protect our democratic process.” This is the first domino to fall, legally prosecuting fraud in the 2022 election. It also ties in a broader implication involving complicity of individuals within the State of Michigan in rigging our elections. This is just the beginning of prosecuting the fraud in our elections. Fraud invalidates the election… X/Twitter: https://x.com/i/broadcasts/1yNxabLmvPrKj Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/636616148890812/videos/761513349915117 Rumble: https://rumble.com/v75k4v4-bnn-brandenburg-news-network-2102026-breaking-news-2022-election-criminal-f.html https://rumble.com/v75k4s6-bnn-brandenburg-news-network-2102026-breaking-news-2022-election-criminal-f.html Odysee: https://odysee.com/@BrandenburgNewsNetwork:d/bnn-2026-02-10-breaking-news-2022-election-criminal-fraud-verdict:2 BNN Live: https://Live.BrandenburgNewsNetwork.com Guests: Donna Brandenburg, Ralph the IT Guy, Karen the Riveter, Jason Ickes
Welcome to Brandenburg News Network I am Donna Brandenburg and it is the tenth day of february twenty twenty six welcome to the show today so glad you're here it looks like i've got a little bit of a delay but we'll see if if that resolves itself here so anyhow i'm going to invite my buddies on karen jason and ralph Good morning. Good morning. There we go. Thought we were stuck there for a minute. Now that's better. We're at a delay. Good morning. How are you? Good. Good. Great. Grand. Wonderful. Is it better? Is it working? Yeah, it's working a little better now. I think there's still a bit of a delay. Yeah, I'm watching it over here. I'm watching it over here on Instagram and Instagram is I've got like five screens up right now. And so anyhow, sometimes there's a delay with what we do here. But we do our best. And so here we go. I am so excited, guys. I cannot even tell you how excited I am right now. a guilty verdict was handed down by the jury to the signature gatherers who defrauded us in the twenty twenty two election. My campaign, there were several other campaigns that were that were defrauded and pretty much every single American who didn't have an honest choice. And we don't know how far this really goes. So I'm kind of excited to be able to talk about it a little bit this morning. And I'm glad you guys decided to join me this morning because I don't like to sit here and just talk to myself, which is kind of strange. But anyhow, what say you guys? Good morning. Well, we have a lot of stuff going on in the election integrity world, don't we? Yes. I mean, besides the. Yeah. And that's besides all the stuff going on with Epstein. But, of course, Epstein's drowning out everything else that's going on in the world. Right. Yeah. And there's a lot of distractions out there, too. Yeah. Well, I have a feeling that they're all connected. Yeah, me too. Isn't that amazing how connected everything is? And watching things come together and realizing that I really feel like this conviction, this criminal conviction that I testified in last week, this criminal conviction is the first domino to fall. And watch what happens after this. I think it's just going to roll. It's just going to roll until we catch every single one of them. And when president Trump said we got them all, or we got them all. He meant it. We have it all. And so it's just a little patience to get them all. Everybody wants a quick answer to things. And that's not a complete answer because these people are like cockroaches. If we don't get them all, they're going to go out and start breeding. And we're going to have a deluge of them. So pretty excited right now. I'm going to pull a couple of things up, but I'd like to hear what you guys have to say. It's very exciting. Yeah, I kind of went... Go ahead, Karen, go. We're trying not to step on each other's toes verbally, and I get it. So last night when I saw it, I was waiting for an announcement on the verdict, and I saw Donna's post. And so I went back to the old memes that I made, like, And I went sharing like crazy because I was having a good time reminiscing the fight that Donna put into this because nobody else did. And finally, now there's a victory on that storyline. And that that was that was fun to see, you know, compare and contrast a little bit what was going on back then, how you went in into the hearing at the Board of Elections. Go ahead. I said something is like interrupting the feed. It just keeps coming, coming in and out. So somebody doesn't want this to get out there. I'm pretty sure, but we're going to keep going. So ignore the, ignore the, uh, the little pauses in here. You know what? I'm going to go out and come back in a minute. All right. I guess we're going to carry on here. Yeah, she'll be back. I think the internet can't handle Donna today. No, I'm watching it, too, on the X-Feed, and it's locking up, so it makes sense to go ahead and reset that connection. They're losing their grip on the information. I would say on reality. Yep. Can't stop the signal. It's gone. It's spread too far and wide now. They can't handle it all. Okay, here I am. Let's see if we've got it. This is going to work better. It seems like there's less of a delay. Okay. Oh, yeah. So far, it's been really good. Yeah. All right. So I want to show you this. You guys are going to be so excited. I was so excited. I couldn't sleep last night. I am not even kidding you. So here it is. There is the guilty verdict. And it is justice is served. And if you look right underneath here, I've got it. I've got it on my... my telegram channel right there. Count two guilty. He is, this is for Sean Wilmoth was convicted of guilty on false pretenses of a hundred thousand dollars or more. And it was upon Donna Brandenburg, the second count in the verdict. I'm so excited. I can't even tell you. And so this is going to be so huge for all of us. And I'm not done. I still have the civil case left to go, as well as I'm sure there's going to be many more that are filed. And so I'm glad to be here with you guys. We're all friends. And to celebrate this together in the fact that, you know, this is such a huge event. win for our country we have been watching the fraud and the elections and and seventeen ways to taiwan for pete's sakes i mean we have so much fraud in them and this is the first one the first verdict that was handed down in a criminal case in a criminal court that says yes There was fraud and there's more than this. And we know this. You know, it's like one of the things that Dana Nussel said in her in her article was we're going to continue to prosecute, investigate, prosecute fraud, fraud in the state. And I'm like, well, are you going to prosecute yourself? Because she did not do anything with the GBI strategy. So I really think that we're going to see. so much more coming out that are, that are either being investigated on prosecuted or are going to be, you know what I mean? So it's just a, it's a huge day. All you need is one conviction and the rest are going to follow. And I think this is going to be a role like a freaking freight train that, that we're going to see. It's going to come fast. It's going to come fast. decisively and it's going to hit very hard at the guts of the beast that has taken over our nation. I'm so excited and I got to tell you, I think that honestly, one thing that I'm really proud of is that I was told that everybody else took a payoff in some way. Now, I don't have the evidence for that, but I'm assuming that that's true. And I was asked that question in the attorney general's office back when they were starting the investigation. And I was testifying in the pretrial. And then I testified in the trial. And they asked me, what would happen if you got a big payoff in the criminal trial? And I'm like going, I'm not in this for money. I am in this for justice. And then the professional judge, Ass chewer of Donna Brandenburg came out and they all took about a forty minute chewing on about what was wrong here that I was not going to let this go or lie. And so it's been a really amazing journey. I do not regret one minute of this. I'm glad that it happened to me in a way, not because of the pain involved in it, because there was so much pain. I can't even tell you, but it's because I was willing to stand and fight them against all of the... trouble, the pain, the ostracizing, the damage to myself and my family. It is it, you know, it's like, I'm, I, I'm glad that I had the honor of being the one to get kicked so hard, and that I didn't walk away from it. So you're standing up to him. It was pretty tough. You know, I mean, I lost friends, people who didn't want to be seen or even near me because they were afraid that they were going to get and they come up and say, you know, we love you and we stand by you, but they didn't. And, you know, the it was it was pretty brutal. I'll tell you, but it's OK. Donna, I would like to suggest that you take a moment and go back to those days and explain a little bit about what the petition gatherers were supposed to do and what they did, because there are some people who are coming in to this story for the first time right now, or they don't remember what this is about and recognize how big of a deal this is. It is a huge deal. I mean, and there's some things I can't quite talk about yet because there's ongoing investigations as well as my civil case that's still operative right now. But I will tell you that the whole signature process is basically a way to choose who you can vote for. And what they ended up doing, what they ended up doing is you have to collect fifteen thousand signatures to get on the ballot as a governor candidate, gubernatorial candidate. Well, we did not have access to any of the information to be able to the candidates and to be able to qualify the voters. Okay. We didn't have access to that, but the signature gatherers did. And so that's why I hired them. I hired them because I wanted to make sure that every signature that we turned in was qualified and that was actually a verified and qualified voter that would make it through the process. And that was on the contract that I signed with them, that they promised me verified and, you know, verified voters. Okay. That would make it through the process. the scrutiny of the board of of elections the board of the bureau of elections and and the board of canvassers well what happened is they um i i could see um i was told not that i could see but i was told that you know you really wanted to have an extra amount of signatures because you never know if say somebody signs two petitions and gets disqualified okay And so I decided to do what I normally do, which is go over the top and make sure that every I was dotted and every T was crossed. And I ended up deciding that I wanted to get near the top amount of what we could submit to the Bureau of Elections. And so I hired the signature gatherers for the verified voters to make sure that they were gone over because they had the access and I did not to verify the voters. And I wanted to make sure that this was bomb proof. I was on the ballot and that we did everything right, you know, that everything was done right lawfully and that we didn't screw anything up. You know, I was never involved in politics. And so, you know, there's a lot of pitfalls going in here. as someone who didn't have the establishment standing with me at all. In fact, they don't want me in at all because they wouldn't even invite me to events. I wasn't invited to any of the debates, none of this stuff. because I wasn't one of them. And as ex-governor Engler said to me one time, he goes, why did you run for governor? He said, you should have gone and worked for somebody first before you went for governor. I'm like, well, anyone should be able to run for governor. You shouldn't have to go in there and kiss the ring of the establishment to get past all of the barriers. I mean, it's like playing Frogger on a video game, really. You're just waiting to see where you're going to get smashed on the road by which car, right? So anyhow, you gather the signatures and pay for them. Well, what happened is it was actually extortion, too, because as I paid, I had paid a down payment for the signatures, because you have to do that, and then... After a bit, they're like, we can't get signatures. We hadn't agreed on price. They would call us and say, you have to pay more money because we can't get signatures at the rate we agreed to. They kept upping the price. Once you got in there, it was like... there was really no way out for me in a way because I promised my followers that I'd get on that ballot and I will always keep my promises to the best of my ability. And so I'm like, okay, well, I guess, you know, I got in this not to lose. I got in this to win. And I guess I'm going to do what, you know, what I need to do to get on the ballot, thinking that this was still the most righteous way to do this. The most bomb proof that wouldn't call anything into question. Right. So they would call and they would say, they would say, you know, well, we, we've got signatures, but we need to have the money in like two hours or, you know, we, you know, it's, this is, this is a done deal, you know? And so it was, it was really, it was really kind of awful. And, um, but we, we went ahead and I made sure that, that things were paid and that we, you know, that we did what we could do the right thing to do. Well, I never got a challenge on, we turned them in or I turned them in in April and, And the first submission was nineteen hundred and nineteen thousand five hundred signatures. And that was all the signatures from this from first choice, the signature company right for first choice. The second set we turned in the last day of being able to turn them in, which was the rest of the signatures, which amounted to about eleven, about ten thousand. And that was in the second set of submissions. And we closed it out. And I said, are we all okay to the Bureau of Elections? They said, yep. They said, if you don't hear a challenge from us in seven days, you're good to go. Okay. I was never challenged. No one ever even questioned it until three days before that hearing. And all of a sudden I'm out campaigning and I get a call from friends that go, you're off the ballot. And I'm like, what? What do you mean I'm off the ballot? I did everything that I was supposed to do. And right. They said, no, they said it's all it's all over the place. And I found out about it by friends and in the news media. I didn't get I didn't find out about it through the Bureau of Elections. I had no idea. So they so in essence, I was ambushed. And I've talked about this many times. Three days before the hearing, no attorney, no idea that anything was wrong. And so I ended up having somebody show up that said, I'll help you. It was Dan Hartman. And I never knew Dan, didn't know anything. And he went into the hearing with me. And that's when I was able to speak because I was... You know, I think I was the only one that spoke that was actually a candidate. I'm not sure if I was for governor, but I got up and I spoke and that's when the goat rodeo thing came out because I was so furious about this. And when I went in there, all of a sudden, ten thousand of my signatures were gone. And I asked Brader, I said, where were my signatures? And he just sat there and he's like twisting around in his chair like a fourth grader on Red Bull. And I ended up suing after I left there, two to two vote and I'm kicked off the ballot. I sued in circuit court. And they wouldn't rule on it. They kicked the can, went up to the Supreme Court of Michigan. Those gutless cowards refused to rule on it, wouldn't rule on it, sued in federal court. And the federal court judge said, yes, it was an unlawful removal. And I should have been put back on. But the Bureau of Elections, oh, it's too late because of absentee ballots. So at that point in time, I had to make a choice. And the U.S. Taxpayers Party, which is the Constitution Party in Michigan, had asked me to run on their party at the same time you know, or before the Republican party, I decided to go to the Republican party. So I went back and I said, do you guys still want me on the ballot? And there's, they, they were like, yes. And so several people did. So I ran, I won the nomination and I got, I won the nomination to be the governor candidate for the U S taxpayers party. And then the story just keeps going on and on and on. I mean, this is the craziest thing. How badly did, Someone didn't want me on the ballot. So somebody there was a group of people within the U.S. taxpayers party that decided it was a good idea to commit a fourteen year fraud. And they registered fraudulently another governor candidate. My security guy caught them doing this at the nominating convention. They picked up somebody's notary seal and started stamping papers. And I know who all those people are. And this is going to jump out of the shadows at some point in time on those that broke the law. And they registered with the Bureau of Election a second governor candidate. Valerie Willis was the candidate that they registered. and that was registered for the U.S. Taxpayers Party. And so I got kicked off a second time. We ended up having a huge, there was a huge fight. They reconvened a nominating convention. I won the nomination again, and I went back at the last minute with the chairman, the vice chairman, and Another gentleman who's just been amazing, Mark Sosnowski. And he was one of the officers. So it was Jerry Van Sickle, Bill Moore, and Mark Sosnowski. We went in there and re-registered just under the line. I mean, it was just under the line. And I was on the ballot under the U.S. Taxpayers Party. And I am, I believe, the only governor candidate who refused to concede to these liars, cheats, and thieves And I will never concede to liars, cheats, or thieves, or somebody that attacks. This was an attack on the United States of America. It was changing the future of our country. What these signature gatherers did changed the direction of our country because of the manipulation of who could be on the ballot and who was going to be eliminated. So and this is just one of the reasons they cheated. But that's exactly what that's exactly what happened. And there's there's smaller there's other things in there that are nuances or small things. But that's kind of like skipping off on the top of the waves there for everyone. But I know that I was told several by several people that heard people also in Lansing at gatherings. They were at a gathering and they said there was a bunch of people that were in representatives standing around. This is just one of the side stories I can tell because there's lots of them. I mean, I could fill months full of these side stories. But anyhow, a bunch of the guys were there were standing around and having a drink at the in the in a gathering. And they had the big jumbotrons on there. And my picture came up and they all stopped drinking and they looked at that and they said, If she gets in, we are all in trouble, slam their drinks down and just scattered in the room because they were so, so traumatized by the fact that, that there was a possibility that I was going to get in because you know what, there's still a possibility. And I think that fraud, if you want to take it to the logical conclusion, fraud invalidates the election. Fraud vitiates everything. Fraud vitiates everything. Everything. And so do you think that we can roll back the hands of time as if they never existed, okay? And I'm still not conceding to these bastards and I never will because they stole the election. They robbed every single American of their ability to choose who they could vote for. They chose they violated the rights of people that wanted to run in so many ways, so many ways. And you know what? We need to go back and write the twenty twenty two and the twenty twenty election. And if somebody is not willing to do that, they're traitors. Boom. Bam. That's right. Boom, boom, boom. You know, it's like, it's like, I, I'm just, I couldn't even sleep last night. I honestly can tell you, I couldn't even sleep. I was so excited about this order that was handed to me and was sent to me by, by the attorney general's office. And this is, here is the official, I'm going to put this up here a minute. This is the official order. statement from the attorney general's office on what happened. And I think that it shows all of the counts. The second counts with false pretense is when you, when, if you go back or if I show you the order that I put up there, that's where I'm listed as the second in the line of, of all the counts, Donna Brandenburg over, You know, they they they committed false pretenses upon me for one hundred thousand dollars or more. And it's a twenty twenty, you know. You know, two counts, false pretenses, one hundred thousand dollars or more, a twenty year felony. So exciting. So exciting. So one of the things I'd like to do because. Jason's Jason's locked up. Oh, I wondered. I thought maybe he was trying to show you something. I can't tell. It's a little teeny tiny screen on my phone. There he is. His phone rang. I can tell you that because that's what happens. Anyhow, you're back. Okay. One of the things I'd like to do is... Can you... Maybe you've got it somewhere. I posted it because when I was looking for any media coverage of it, apparently it did get out in the AP, but probably not widespread. There were very few media outlets that did... But they're behind subscription walls, some of them. And there were two places that I could get access to see it. One place did list all of the names of the candidates. And I didn't even realize this included three judicial candidates. As well as the gubernatorial. They're actually up on the screen there. They've got it released in the first paragraph there, too, in the official statement. I knew it was somewhere, but I couldn't remember for sure where. So that's good. I want everybody to know, too, that these people were operating in other states. Yeah. Yeah. This is so huge. I'm not sure if people really understand how huge this is. Well, the one had a conviction in, what was it, Virginia? And then he came back, he comes to Michigan and works here in the same field he was convicted in. And you want to hear something really sad? I had called, and I don't remember who I talked to, but I called the Secretary of State's, or I called the Bureau of Election to check to see if they were okay. And I said, when I was running, I said to them, I said, I want to check and make sure that these are, you know, that you guys are actually, you know, okay with these guys that you've accepted their stuff. And they're like, oh yeah, a lot of people use them. I remember the conversation clearly. And so the state literally gave me an implied endorsement that they were okay. wow i want you to think about this but hold on remember dana nestle said they should have checked the vendor before they used them because they're known fraudsters they've been convicted in other states And I did, Dana Nessel, you big, you know, piece of crap. I called down there, and it was the Bureau of Elections that said that they were, in fact, you know, that, oh, yeah, yeah, they're okay. I had somebody doing, you know, the Pollyanna thing on me there going, oh, yeah, there's a lot of people that use them. And I'm like, guess what, guys? I did. Yeah, I'm glad you hit that point because I knew that challenge was going to come up again. Well, why didn't you check? He had a conviction. You did check. You did attempt to verify. Yeah, guess who's responsible for validating vendors? The Secretary of State maintains the LoRa database. They certify whether or not a business can conduct business in the state of Michigan. So when the Secretary of State's office says, oh yeah, this vendor's perfectly A-okay, Yeah. What else do you have to go off of? I mean, you know, it's like it's crazy. And then, you know, furthermore, I called down there and I got smarter and and have been getting smarter over time. But I actually called somebody and the secretary said Lydia, I believe, is her name. And I taped the call. I started doing this and saying, screw these people because, you know, I wanted to make sure I had some, some evidence on if something went wrong. I, I am in Lydia was the one that told me that, um, I should just take the petitions. And I remember what she said, and I've got the video of it too, because I went ahead and taped it. And I, I said, well, um, I want to know where to get the petitions from. She's like, oh, you know, you can just take these and Xerox them. That was the exact word she used, just Xerox them. Because, you know, it's actually more accurate if you handwrite the information in. So I went down to our county courthouse and talked to another wonderful person down there and said, so I just got told by somebody at the Bureau of Elections that I could Xerox off these petitions because it is more accurate if you hand-fill the top portion in, which is crap. I mean, everybody that's older than five years old would have figured this one out. She's like, we never tell people that. She said she said no. And I'm like, so I said, so you're telling me that once again, they gave me bad information and told me I should Xerox these petitions off, which I never did. I went to election source and had them printed officially. And oh, by the way, isn't that strange how election source is in with Dominion? And those are also the ones that did the test to the public inaccuracy test here in Firing Township. Oh, I've got so much to talk about. It's amazing. Yep, and I think this is only going to be about the first in a long series of things that come out. I think so, too, because you know what? I was there. I was on the ground. I saw it. It's like I have so much evidence. And I'm going to tell you what, the November public accuracy test in the criminal town of Byron Township, who stole our water resources and absolutely issued no-bid contracts. They tried to make it look like it, but they didn't even remove their equipment off the right-of-way and did this public inaccuracy test that I taped when I was there. There was nothing public. They did a demonstration of what they did in the basement. This state is criminal from top to bottom, and they all have to be prosecuted and removed. They should all be wearing the chains that Sean was wearing. And I'm going to tell you what, I am in this for the long haul. And until we see this happen, I'm going to be in this fight because we have to see them all prosecuted. And thank God for good people operating within corrupt organizations. blowing the whistle and, and, or fighting for good within those organizations. Because I do think that with some of this, we saw some of those people come out of the woodwork and really do some good here. There's a lot of good people. And I want to make that clear. It wasn't just me. I'm just talking about what happened to me right now because there's other people that experienced horrible things. And it's been going on for a long time. I mean, like, for example, there were definitely some good people in the Attorney General's office here. Yeah, and I'm not going to call them out right now because I don't think that they want to be called out, but I know several of them. And they're going to get their kudos, but I've got to make sure that there's things I still can't talk about because of some of the things that are ongoing, right? But there are some very, very good people behind the scenes. So when you look out there and you see things happening in the United States in general, Remember, the ones that you see aren't usually the ones that are pulling the levers. And the ones that are pulling the levers that are really in charge are really, really good people. And, um, I've had the privilege to meet many of them and, and I just, it's really been an honor. And so there's, there's so many people involved with, with writing the United States, you know, a lot of, I'm sure a lot of people in the military. And, uh, I think that we're going to find more and more out on exactly, um, Exactly who's who in the zoo and all of these good people. I mean, I mean, their their names will be remembered because I will make sure that they're remembered for what they did. And, you know, to restore the United States of America, it is an extraordinary thing to see. So if you're out there, don't lose hope. You know, when you see things. I want to see if I can get Jason back here a minute. When you see things that are wrong out there, don't lose hope. We have to go through the process to identify and to really see what's going on and to get the evidence to convict them. You can't just allege things and you can't parrot things. You've got to actually get the evidence to nail them in a criminal case. And so a little patience, a little patience. And be willing to stick with things in the long term and keep fighting no matter how much of a stone wall it looks like you're coming up against. Because eventually that pressure, the continued constant pressure can actually make some changes. Yeah, it's going to, you can certainly, you know, there will be, if you don't quit in life, You're going to have success. It may not go in exactly the direction that you were planning. God has way bigger ideas. And that's another thing I want to make sure we say. Thank you, Jesus. Thank you, God Almighty, for what you've done for us with this first domino that just fell. It is absolutely extraordinary. Yeah. I can't even say enough about this, but we literally have seen the hand of God move this thing along. This is a God story. This is an us story. This is vindication for every single American. And this was God's battle, and he won. Amen. Amen. There we go. Absolutely. Timing is everything. Yes. And so I'm sure that there's a lot of people out there that's like fundamental law. Donald Williams is here and firsthand witness is powerful. You know, it's like it and it is. It's like, you know, if you witness something. Somebody asked me about about Dana Nessel's. pardon this or everybody else, and even Gretchen Whitmer. And I think it's coming. We just have to have a little patience and we need to nail the criminals in an absolute... unquestioning bomb proof way so that if some slime ball attorney tries to get them off the charges that they're guilty for on a technicality or whatever, that it's so ironclad that these cases are so ironclad. that they can't get away because you know what? We got to get them all. We can't just get one or two. And you know what? Honestly, if they would have gone, if somebody would have gone just after Whitmer, I would have been so disappointed or Nestle or Benson or whatever. But just so you know, I have other cases out there. I filed a case to sue Jocelyn Benson and I'm going to be talking about that more because guess what? It's been quiet, silent as the grave since last summer when I filed this in the court of claims. nothing out there on this and all of a sudden last week when basically you know it was hitting the fan everything was um uh all of a sudden i get an email and the attorney general's office is has put another attorney from the Attorney General's office in there to defend Benson. Now, my question is, is it's like, why is the state defending those in the state? Benson should have to go out there and get her own attorney like the rest of us have to when we are either accused, state wouldn't come to our defense, let's criminal maybe against us, but do you see what I'm saying? It's like, they have all the benefits of everything. They've got unlimited money and they're using our money to defend them from the crimes that they commit. Well, first we got to prove where they're getting their money from. We'll get there too. It sounds like there's a lot of stuff going on at a national level. Let's defund them. And then they can't defend themselves with all the fancy attorneys. And then they can't. pay people off and threaten people and coerce people. They're losing control and you can see it. You can see what I call the screaming bobcat. They're caught in a trap. They've got no fight left except to just make a bunch of noise. Yeah. And, you know, and it's like, I think, you know, everybody knows out there that I said, it's like the, the attorney I had in the civil case, they found him dead on December eight. And I don't even know what to say about this, but I'm, I am. I've got a lot of questions and I mean a lot of questions, but I'll tell you, I tell you what, you know, God, if you trust God and you sit back when things go bad and go, well, this wasn't my plan, but clearly God is always working for good and sit back and go, what, you know, take your time to be upset about it and, and, uh, have a pity party if you need to. I get it. Right. But the reality is, is if we sit back and we just let God work through these systems and ask him and maybe stop trying to go in our direction, let it go in his direction. It goes in a good a good way. And I'm going to tell you right now, I have a new attorney. He wins Supreme Court cases. very very competent individual and guess what the pummeling is going to continue until we get to the bottom of all of this and uh in all cases there's there's no there's no back and down for this when the law has been broken or people's rights have been violated you know it's like uh I I'm interested in justice and I'm, I'm sick of the criminality and I just can't see quitting. You know, it's like, this is, this is probably going to be a lifelong pursuit for me to, to hold people accountable because first of all, I enjoy it. And second of all, I want to leave the country for our children better than what it was handed to us. because there's been a lot of stuff that's gone wrong for years. I mean, look at the Federal Reserve that was put in place. You know, I think it was in nineteen seventeen, correct? Nineteen thirteen, nineteen seventeen. And the Federal Reserve came in. There's so much history that's been rewritten that we have to go back and really question the things we can. And when we see things that are unconstitutional or that have subverted the the intention of the founders, the founding fathers, we have to bring it back to what worked and to how this country was was founded without all of the subversion. You know, one of my other friends who died, and his name was Doug Force. He came on my show, and I hate to say it, but he did, a month and a half later, he died. And he and another patriot actually ended up having the exact same thing at the exact same time. which is suspect is all get out to me. One of them got up and left the hospital. The other one didn't make it. And, uh, it's, it's, this is another thing that both of us that we've talked about, we're both highly suspicious that that was also something that probably was not supposedly not natural. Okay. So at, at any rate, there's a lot of stuff going on right now. And, uh, And there's a lot to get to the bottom of, you know. But anyhow, Doug Force, he died. And he was the one that proved that Canada was not properly federated. Well, newsflash, the United States of America was not properly federated either. It happened around the Articles of Confederation. Doug pointed that out. He was working on it in the United States. One of the wonderful deep state agencies told him to leave and never come back. Went back to Canada, was working up there. Yeah. So there's a lot of people that this has affected. And we have to honor those that went before us, that we stand with right now, that have given their lives, that have put everything that they had into giving us a better country. And you know what? I think that we need to do the same thing. We need to stand for things and we need to We need to inspire others to stand. We need to stand in ways that other people can see that, you know, there are good people. There are really good people who refuse to capitulate. General Flynn is one of them. Admiral Rogers is another one. Those two men changed the United States forever. It was their bravery. It was their bravery that stopped this nation from already being completely and utterly destroyed. So I'll name them amongst people. General Flynn and Admiral Rogers, they are absolutely heroes. And I don't use that word lightly. I have very few people that I stand in awe and respect of. And those two have my utmost respect and absolute, I don't know, I'll stand with them unwavering until, you know, I'll stand with them unwavering. They earned it. I'm glad that you mentioned the election issue. I don't know what to word used to anymore for Byron Township because... The Byron Township Crime Syndicate? Yeah, I hope that Byron Township is listening. I hope that they recognize that you have not conceded the water wars fight. You have not conceded the election fight. You're going to be coming back at them. You know, they... were successful in getting the first attempt dismissed. Which really was an emergency injunction. You know, it was an emergency injunction, but everybody stalled it out so much that it was kind of, it was kind of irrelevant when we got to the end, but I got the transcript and two times in that transcript, the judge who dismissed it said, it doesn't stop you from filing another lawsuit and encouraged me to file in federal court. Right there. I don't know what's going to happen in the future, but I do know what's going to happen in the future. No, but that's a great point. That's a great point, and it's worthy. We don't have to know God's plan to try to be a part of it. That is one of the key points or challenges that we face as people is we always want to know what the plan is. I want to know what the plan is. And we think we know what the plan is and we don't know anything. I want it now. It's like the little girl in the chocolate factory. I have a meme with her. I want it now. And we want to know what's going to happen next, but. There's Jason. We'll give him a chance. I'm back. You're back. I'm glad you came back. So I think that, to your point, Karen, is that, and this, like I said, this is really a God story. This was God's battle. Because you, I, none of us um maybe some really smart people i don't know but you know i don't put myself in that category you know it's like i just keep going and god opens the doors and he has his timing he opens the doors he puts things and people in front of you when you need him he's not if you think you got it all planned out You're going on your own plan and you're not letting God operate. If you just say, you know what? I commit to this God and I'm going to continue to go forward. You're going to have to make the way when there seems to be no way. And all of a sudden people show up and all of a sudden things, things open up or come, come out out of nowhere. And all you can do is look at this and say, say, I had less to do with this than you probably thought. It was all God. Because those fortuitous events... those miracles happen and they leave us in awe so that we can never take the credit for it. We can say it was God. For me, I'm just a bullhead. When I see something wrong, I will not stop until I see it resolved. That's one of those things that people either love about me or absolutely hate about me. And that's the way God built me. But that doesn't mean that All it means is that God did it. He opened the doors, he made sure things went in the right direction, and I'm just in awe. It's amazing. Donna, what do you think about the comparison with open primaries versus caucuses? Do you think that this whole ballot petition thing has shown where the flaw is in the open primary process? it's part of that, but anything, the signature gathering is unconstitutional and the whole thing should be struck because this is about creating barriers so that only the people that the establishment in the parties, and I'm talking to Democrat and Republican parties, there's no heroes there. Okay. There are absolutely zero heroes. They manipulate this. And they're part of the manipulation. Signatures should never, ever be required because it's pay to play. And you either have to give your time, you have to pay signature gatherers, you have no access to half the stuff that they've already captured. It is impossible for this process to be honest. It needs to go away and it is unconstitutional. Anything that is unconstitutional needs to be nullified, struck from the record, and never to raise its ugly head again. I have another answer. I had another comment on that earlier. I made a note of it when they were, the signature gatherers were telling you, well, you need to pay us now and you need to pay more. You need to pay more than that. They were basically holding the voters hostage. Yes. It was extortion. Yeah. And this doesn't just affect the candidates. This affects all, all of the voters because it is the the voting process is our method of choosing representatives as well as expressing our first amendment rights to free speech and expressing our opinion in a public fashion so by anything that they anything that is done to the candidates to remove that ability to have that choice affects all of us It's not free. It's not fair. They're choosing who we have the opportunity to vote for. I, I, you know, it's like, I, what we need to be, how it needs to be done is anybody should be able to run for governor or any of the seats there. You know, it, it needs to be anybody. If somebody, if somebody is an honest person that's worked all their life as a mechanic and they decide, I want to run for office and they, They can't because they haven't kissed the ring of the establishment. And I don't know, it's all rigged. The whole thing is rigged. I could go on for a long time, but I'll spare everybody. I think I've said enough. Y'all get it. well i brought that up because i i feel like the caucuses are a better way for a group of people to select their candidates than the jungle primary system we we have now i mean it's it's mostly jungle but we also have caucuses it's a hybrid system that we have here in michigan and so for example the constitution party has a caucus they select their candidates via caucus in the republican party has partial caucus and partial open primary where during caucus they select the attorney general and secretary of state how like bizarre of a system we have in this state where it's those two are selected but the governor candidates not selected in caucus Well, the whole thing is absolutely wrong because right now, I kept getting asked to run on the Republican Party. And I'm like, I can't do it because they've taken foreign money in the elections. So the party system needs to go because the way that it's done right now, the political parties, all of them have taken foreign money in the elections except the U.S. Taxpayers Party, which is the Constitution Party. We have not taken foreign money in the elections. So there is no way Um, with the current system and I'm just going to say it, anybody that stands with the Republican or Republican or Democrat parties at this point is literally standing with a criminal organization that has taken foreign money in our elections. I won't do it. I think Jason, it's a selection process. It's a sham selection. election it's fake and this is why i'm starting to push more about so you thought people i'm angry about it a little bit yeah because we warned everybody when you get involved in the well we got to vote for the gop because if not it's going to be the democrat that's going to win they're the same thing we tried to tell you and what did tutor diction do the morning of the election The morning after, she immediately conceded. And she said nothing else about, oh, this didn't look right. And she never said nobody but Donna said anything about the petition process. They were quiet about it. The GOP should have been up in arms. If they cared about election integrity, they should have blasted the media with that. They should have said, this is wrong. We need to make sure these candidates still have an opportunity to be on the ballot and the people get a chance to decide. The GOP does not care about you. They do not care about election integrity. Their chosen, their selected candidate that none of you really liked because none of you knew a thing about her is And the only thing you could find out about her was that she was involved in soft porn. That's what people called it, soft porn. She was an actress. For Tudor Dixon, okay? Yes. And she was connected to other things, which Donna will point out. I called them Dixmer because they were one and the same. You had no choice. And what did they do? They did not fight anything. They never conceded. I mean, they did concede and they never fought for election integrity. And in the next election, what are you going to do? Well, we don't have a choice. We have to vote for the red. We have to get a red wave. Well, Trump endorsed them. Are you serious? He endorsed her too. And what did she do for you? You've got to drop this trust in the thing that you can't trust. It's time to get over it. We tried to tell you. Okay, I'm done with my rant now. No, just keep going. This is like a really good rant right now. I love it. All of these upstart parties are just there to split the vote. I mean, otherwise, how are we going to make sure that we have a clean election of the Federalists versus the Anti-Federalists? Or, oh wait, no, maybe it's the Whigs versus the Democratic Republicans. Or maybe it's the Bull Moose Party. Or, you know, because it's always only been... The two parties that we have now, we can't even conceive of it being any different. That's the thing. As you look back in the past, there have been a whole bunch of different parties, and they've come and gone as they have gotten corrupted off base or stopped connecting with the people that were voting for them. The Republicans and Democrats theoretically both trace their lineage back to a split in the Democratic Republican Party, which was a single party at one point in time. And so, you know, anybody that talks about how you have to have the loyalty to this party hasn't really even studied history. this party or that party, the parties changed. The parties shouldn't even be there. And the founding fathers warned us against that. But to even just say that, well, because it's my current favorite sports team, it's the only way to go, right or wrong, whatever they do, and that they are infallible, even if they make terrible decisions that are contrary to you, flies in the face of the entirety of American history. Boom. Boom. Well, it goes back to the example that I've been using always makes Karen laugh. So I got to say this one is that if you if it's the same thing buying into these corrupt political parties as making brownies with dog crap in it. Okay. It may look like a brownie, but are you going to eat that? Or do you want one that's made that doesn't have dog crap in it? I'm not going to be eating things that have dog crap in them. I'm going to just tell you that right now. And so, you know, it's like it's time to decide that we want the Republic back, the one that we were supposed to have in the first place. and get rid of nullification that needs to happen and huge nullification of anything that flies in the face of the Constitution. And you can go to the Fourteenth Amendment and chop everything out after that because they were all alterations to the First Amendments. And so you can't alter an amendment and that's exactly what they did. They altered the Constitution, which they can't do. So I'm going to have to get going pretty quick here, but I did post a GIF in the chat that I think might be pertinent. You can take a look through it to think if you think it's pertinent or not. Not the second one, the first one. The first one. All right, let's see. I'm going to try not to have this thing freeze up on me again. I hope Jason comes back again. He asks good questions. And let's see what we have here. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I love this. I love this. Hang on a minute. And we shall... Put this up. The first domino just fell. Boom, right there. Fantastic. Thank you so much for joining us today here, Ralph, and always being a good friend and a good encourager and such. And I'm proud of you. Great day to celebrate. Yeah. Celebrate. Yep. And with that, I'll see you later. Have a good day. And we'll see if we can get Jason back here too. He's, he's always got a lot of insight. You know, he's been working in election integrity for a very long time. Jason has, and he worked, he, you know, I was the first time I met him, he and I were on a lawsuit together and I'd never met him. We both signed onto this lawsuit and he, he comes up and he talks to me he says hi and i'm like hi i had no idea who he was right and uh he's like i'm jason and i'm like okay you know i'm trying to put it into context right you know jason ike's i'm the one that's on the lawsuit with you and i'm like oh jason you're like okay what's that hi, I'm Jason. You're like, okay. Okay. Nice to meet you, Jason. There's a lot of Jason's around. So, so fantastic. Wonderful. And then after that, we became friends and Jason and Ralph and Karen and I, we do some investigation together. It's fantastic. And I love Jason. Jason's a cool guy. And he's got the nicest family, his wife and his, and his kids. They're, they're wonderful. And so let's see if I can get him to come back. Come back, Jason. Yeah. So, I mean, I think that this is an important thing to do too, is to question everything. Even, you know, even the things that we think are good that we have in our lives, you have to question them, you know, where we're putting our time. Are we in things because we want the approval of the people in that group? Do we need a herd? Do we need a flock to stand with? Or can we stand on our own when the flock is going in the wrong direction? If you see the flock or a herd of, what is it with lemmings? Are lemmings a flock or a herd? I don't think they have groups. Well, they kind of just like fall off the cliff together. You know, they'll jump off the cliff together, right? They don't gather. It's like the ultimate in group thing with lemmings, right? It's like if you want the safety of the flock or the herd overdoing what's right, I can't understand that. Pigs are known for, wasn't it pigs? I know sheep are dumb as a box of rocks. As far as like, you put, I've heard this story. If you put a log in front of a gate and they're pushing through, the first ones will jump over the log and the ones behind can't see what they're doing, but they'll imitate it. If you take the log away, they'll keep pretending to jump because they keep jumping, but they're pretending there's a log there that isn't there. That's how I feel like people are when they're following the party system. They're just doing what has been done before and not thinking twice about it. They don't know that there's any other way. Well, there's another gate over down there, guys, and there's no log. Try something different. You can't keep doing the same thing and expect different results. Yeah. And it's a good time for us to check ourselves, I think, in the things that we're involved in, because I think there's a lot of things that we're involved in that people think are good. I mean, look at how much everybody's woken up here. And I don't mean being woke. I mean, we woke up to the realities, right? Like school. um, how many people realize now that it's not, it's not all good, you know, and there's a lot of people that homeschooled. I homeschooled my kids and that was, that was a long, long, long time ago, you know, but, but cause, cause, uh, you know, my kids are in their thirties and it, it, and when it wasn't cool, you know, they were still threatening to put us in, in jail, but the people that homeschooled back then had the conviction that, Instead of putting them in school where they're going to. This was mine. I didn't want them to be in school and learn to hate God and other people, you know. And so so I decided to do things a little differently. And and and I think it's OK to break with the things that were that were normally involved in. if they become bad, you know? Byron Township, there you go, I'm gonna give you an example. When you see people breaking the law, you have to say something. And what I see here is some people stand up when they see other people being harmed, but a lot of people make the statement, well, you know, I'll get in the fight if it really affects me. I have heard that so many times. I would like to throw off with that. OK, truly, because you can't you can't see that and see somebody else being harmed without kind of being under a moral obligation to stand up for him. Yeah, there's a little bit of a morality problem, an ethics problem. I have a question. I mentioned it to you yesterday, so I posted it on my Telegram channel. And I got mixed reviews and I did get at least one who follows me regularly. She posted her answer. And then she posted again, a comment that she was like, Oh, maybe she's rethinking this a little bit. And that's what I was trying to do. If you could only have justice and accountability or an awakening of all the criminal activity. And I'm talking about the children, the economy, the war, the election issues, all of that. They're all interconnected. So if we could say everybody or at least the vast majority can know about the criminal activity or you can get earthly justice for it. Which one would you choose? And the interesting thing about that is we all want all of it, but we can't always get all of it. So if you could only get one the way I see it, I would rather have an awakening because I know. As I think it was Amy that pointed out, vengeance is mine, saith the Lord. And that's where I was going with using the term earthly justice because God will have his justice. I know that. And I'm perfectly okay with that. Do I want crimes to continue with the same people? No. But if everybody is aware of it, that it did happen in the past, we can then move forward to prevent it from happening in the future. And that is how we protect people. We tend to think of protection in the future dependent on earthly justice. But I think that's an important question to ask because there are a lot of people that are saying, where's the justice? Where's the justice? I want arrest. I want to see something happen to these people. Well, can you get an arrest if there's no justice if they get off and they get let free and then they go and you know rape another little girl because we keep hearing about this happen where people are released and they okay so you went through the justice system how did that work out for you what's better that everybody points their finger at that guy and says don't let him around your kids i would rather have that myself But frame it differently a second, because your choice, I see it as a sequence. Okay, instead of a choice, it's a sequence. Because if there's an awakening, what's going to happen is you're going to have someone that will that if there's broad numbers of people, somebody is going to say, this is my fight. So I see it as a sequence, not a not a choice. Oh, I'm not going to argue with you. I think it's it's a thought exercise more than anything. But yeah, I mean, that's what ethics are. When you study ethics, you have to make choices. You know, what is where is the push point when you get into the gray areas of being able to determine whether something is right or wrong? What when does that discernment kick in for a lot of people? You know? Yeah. It's a good exercise. It really is. And, and I, I've got a friend who taught ethics in the Navy and love this guy. He's amazing. Very ethical man. And he actually said that most of the admirals should probably go to jail for the COVID stuff. Cause they, they, they are people he works with. He said, because they didn't have the ethics to stop the nonsense within the military. I thought it was a great statement that he made. Yeah. I mean, yeah, anybody who's seen, oh, shoot, what's the name of it? The Tom Cruise movie. Top Gun? No, and I know you've probably never seen it. I don't watch movies or TV. I like Top Gun because I like planes. Yeah. Of course, you've seen Top Gun Maverick then. uh no she hasn't you've got to see that one too now okay so jack nicholson is the one where he says you can't handle the truth yeah and the whole movie is about two two two men who are on trial because they did something that was unethical they did it on orders And at the end, one of them realizes, you know, we should have rejected that because the order was unethical and we hurt the guy and the guy eventually he died is the whole problem. And yeah, you don't have to obey an unethical order, but that's a big challenge. Well, let's look at political parties right now, okay? You know, with people saying, well, I've got to vote Republican because I've always been Republican. And it's like, okay, let's take the title and the label off the parties right now and just have like an unnamed organization out there that we're looking at the process rather than the name, right? Well, these this organization took let's just pose it this way without saying Republican or Democrat. There's an organization out there that took foreign money in our elections and they they probably have the best chance of winning. So do you do you want to stand with them and support them? Normal people would say, well, no, I'm not going to support a criminal organization. But then put the label in and it becomes a cult mentality. And then people won't walk away from it because they're almost brainwashed into thinking that that's the way they have to go, regardless of the criminality of the organizations. So glad you're back, Jason. Yeah, I'm glad to be back. This was an impromptu ask to be here, and so I'm still dealing with a little bit of work that comes in here. I found out about this last night, and I was sitting down with my husband and one of my daughters, and we were... We were just I was kind of happy because I had jury duty this week. I mean, talk about everything happening at once. Let's just load Brandenburg up and see how she handles this. Right. Oh, man. So I had jury duty yesterday and we made it. It was really funny. So I show up there and I go and don't sit down and. I've got these nice ladies that are sitting next to me. We're all about the same age. And we start talking because, you know, you just got to sit there and see. Well, there are five cases that were on the books. They're cases for five different judges. And they said, just sit and wait. We'll tell you what's happening. So after a little while, they gave us a couple of videos to watch and such. the gal comes in and says, well, the first judge just dismissed his case. So of course me, I'm kind of a goofball, right? I start slapping high fives to the people around me because I'm like, I'll do the duty, but, but Hey, we're getting, we're going to be out of here by, you know, by noon or something. Right. So, so I start slapping high fives. Everybody's laughing. So she comes back in a little while later, second judge just dismissed the case. Hey, the high fives are going on, having a great time. We were out of there in two hours because all the cases were dismissed. So I come home and I'm like, fantastic. It's time to celebrate. I don't have jury duty the rest of the week. Right. And I was kind of looking forward to it sort of, but I was glad when, when it was dismissed. So anyhow, uh, We go to grab a bite to eat and have a celebratory drink and such. And we're sitting there. And as we're sitting there, the Attorney General's text comes through with the order. And I am just like, I cannot believe this. You know, total joy over this. The conviction that they were guilty on how many counts they had. I mean, it was extraordinary. It really was a great afternoon. So... Yeah, and I was watching that jury pool too. So I was actually kind of surprised by the results there, getting all those convictions. I mean, on all charges, basically. Yeah, Jason was there in the courtroom watching the trial, which was interesting. I was not. They separated me out into a nice little room by myself. I was like on punishment or something. I don't know, but I'm off by myself. You're on a talk show. Yeah. You're going to be brought in and find out that, you know, some, I don't know. Well, what it was is that, you know, when, when you're testifying, they didn't want the, they didn't want my testimony to be altered. And so I was pushed off to the side. All the other people that were testifying, they're walking around the halls and they're, you know, they're hanging out. No, not Donna Brandenburg. I'm off into my little room over here, which, which was fine. And when, when my testimony was done, I made it. I absolutely made sure because they did kick me out of the courtroom. They said at first I could sit in the courtroom and listen to the following testimony by Erlina. Erlina came after me and I went to sit down and they were like, you can't be in here. And I'm like, I think I can. I was just told by the deputy attorney general that I was free to stay in here. No, we need you to leave. And I'm like, OK, now what? So I leave and I realize that they could have called me back in to testify again. And being a very ethical and honest person, a lot of people came up to me and wanted to tell me what was going on in the courtroom that day, especially with opening arguments. And I stopped them. I said, no, I absolutely do not want my testimony to be altered if I get called back in. I didn't read any articles. I didn't look anything up. I specifically stayed off any communications that talked about any of this until... The verdict was handed down yesterday. I didn't look at anything. I didn't read articles, nothing, nada. And so, you know, it's, I made, made the choice not to be informed, but to be authentic and real. And I think that that's an important thing. Sometimes we think that being informed is power. It's not, you know, it's sometimes it's better to stick with your ethics, do the right thing and be in the dark a little bit and let God worry about the rest. You know, there are times for that. You can't change what you know for what someone else knows because everyone else has got an agenda. So it's best to, to, to roll with what you know, what you're directly involved with. First person witness is very important. And so if you, if you stay true to yourself and what you know, and not be influenced by others, you know, you, you have, you're the perfect person to be a whistleblower or to stand against evil. And it's important. So anything else that you guys want to talk about? I mean, this is great. It's been a while since we've, you know, I've been, I've been, I've been kind of busy lately and I know you guys have been busy too. And it's like, you know, cause we haven't had a chance to really sit down and talk about things so much. yeah well there's a lot going on right now that's for sure especially with them finally dumping these epstein documents i mean it's obviously there's so much in the in all of that and there's more documents to come out too but the stuff with the jerky is just unreal you know that is just i don't know that most people can even um comprehend you know this code language for human flesh it's I had to show you something. Have you been reading the files, Jason? Yes, and I've been sharing links to some people that are talking about it so they can add more context to what they're talking about. The thing that came out yesterday that everybody was talking about was these fifty-five gallon drums of sulfuric acid. Yep. And I went through. So, well, sulfuric acid can be used for dissolving bodies, body parts. Is that from the standard hotel, which connects to Adam Schiff? no so this uh that was going around was for little saint james island the uh epstein island right and uh i went to to go look at it and and there's a plausible explanation for the orders to an extent right and i went in looked see kind of more details because how many times do we get led down one path and then they pull some rabbit out of a hat and they're like well actually this is legit for this reason right so i'm like well what in the world are they gonna do to squirrel their way out of this one so i went to the documents and started looking and sure enough there's orders back to and they're eating kids and they're and they're eating kids yeah so go ahead sorry in there was an order for um so the island purification system uses saltwater purification, right? And it's SWRO, saltwater reverse osmosis. In the process, when you're using saltwater can become, the pH can become too high and use sulfuric acid in order to reduce the pH. And that is a standard practice. It's not unusual for that. Now, You have to calculate. I don't know what the size of the facility is. I don't know how much water they're generating, how much they're using on island, yada, yada, yada, right? So it's hard from that one document to gauge what a legitimate amount would be to have on the island. But after going through the rest of the files that had sulfuric acid in him, you could see that they ordered two drums, two fifty five gallon drums. A drum lasted roughly more than six months. And when I did looked up the calculations for water pressure and everything else that was being used, it's about six months was the expected life for a barrel in this process. Well, in twenty eighteen when they opened the child trafficking case against Epstein, everybody was talking yesterday about how all of a sudden he ordered these barrels. Well, it was in line with the timeline for needing to purchase based on his past record of needing two drums every roughly little more than a year. Actually, it was a year and four months. Then it was a year and six months. So the two drums seem to last him quite a while. And he orders six drums. He ordered the six drums before these charges were brought out. People were saying, did somebody tip him off? Did they let him know? He's destroying evidence of body parts that might have been in freezers and the like. I venture to guess Probably. I mean, four extra drums would have been enough to last, you know, six drums of fifty five gallons would have lasted six years. And at this point. Epstein's. How much use is Epstein getting of the island? How much money do you want to put into this? They're already arguing in the emails over saving money. So if they're trying to not spend a whole lot of money, why would they buy years and years of supplies of sulfuric acid when they're trying to scrimp every penny that they can? So it calls a lot into question, but it also goes to show that, yeah, there's an access of sulfuric acid on an island, and they're talking about – they're using these code words, which I found Kyle Serafin to be – he brought up yesterday on Alex Jones' show that – the documents that were released they didn't release any of the code words why didn't they release what the fbi found code words to be used for because that would have been an index that would have been provided in in the context of the charges of the case and why didn't all of the the case charging instructions and everything that was used for analysis why wasn't that published because that would have told you what the officers or the agents that were investigating were looking for And if they knew certain words were already being used for human trafficking and the such, why wouldn't you publish that? Why wouldn't you put that out with all this? Instead, you dump a bunch of documents and say, good luck. It's almost like it's being done intentionally to obfuscate what was actually happening. Now we're left to have to guess at what know they spent to seraphim's credit he said again these investigators had this case open for what a decade and you're going to tell me they didn't have all of this like the the lengthy amount of stuff that they would have had and those charging instructions the investigative materials That wasn't provided. That's what everybody wants to know. Everyone wants to know who the guilty parties are in all of this. And if you don't have what the FBI was looking for, then how do you really reconcile who's guilty in this? You don't have any instructions. You don't have the information. Right. There's so many questions that have to be answered. Go ahead. There's a discussion about what Trump actually means when he calls it a hoax. And one suggestion has been that the files are so corrupted now. And I used files in quotation marks, you know, the investigation documents that they're putting out. All these discussions have been, there's so much fake, there's so much where there's innocent people that could be brought in that people would immediately think poorly of. And then maybe there's criminals that are not really, it's not really clear that they're involved in criminal activity. But it's become so complex that it may take our attention away from other things that are more fruitful in obtaining justice. What do you think about what Trump is saying with the word hoax, Jason? Well, I'll tell you that... Remember, there were the many fine people hoax. Trump has been through a lot of hoaxes, right? Where they deceptively edited. In pretty much every situation where he's referred to these hoaxes, you could see that there was deceptive editing. And it was done intentionally to make him look like a racist. And in the majority of the cases, it was about making them out to be racist or anti-Semite or whatever. But, in this instance we see the leftist media is taking samples oh this name is in the file well what under what context right oh they mentioned this person as a potential person to be used in an event okay well then that doesn't apply at all this is just because their name was mentioned and they never actually used the person for any events doesn't mean that person was a baby eater right like right they were having discussions about people they were having discussions about infiltrating trump's network right like and and they were targeting people within his circles to try to get access to him to bring him in to what they were doing And so, of course, he's going to be mentioned. He was a big target because he was a big name in New York where Epstein was based out of. And that goal was to compromise as many people as they could. So, of course, they're going to pick people out that they were targeting. Exactly. Exactly. When he says there's a hoax, the other aspect of this that I think a lot of people don't, I don't think many people or anybody's really talked about this, but if Jeffrey Epstein was an intelligence asset and he was running girls, then some of those girls are sparrows, right? We know what a sparrow is. A sparrow is a, you know, A woman who's been trained in the art of seduction, seduction to lure men and get compromise on them. And if he's running red sparrows, then who's the victim? Is the girl the victim? No, she's a trained agent. then in that case, you're extorting the men. In that case, the men are the victims. So when they say we're protecting the victims and then you don't see any people's names. So now we're left high and dry on who was deliberately engaged and involved and who was being extorted, who got balled up or rolled up in and probably unwittingly got compromised um got lured or entrapped and in some cases you see these pictures where there's just a party and there's females at the party oh they were taking pictures if you're a celebrity all you do is take pictures with people all day long and trump was a celebrity so you're going to tell me just because there's pictures that that that means he's compromised there unless there's actually you know, if they really compromised them, guess what they would have done? It would have had bedroom recordings. And what have we not seen? We haven't seen anything like that. Nothing even close to that. We've seen accusations, which anybody can accuse anybody of anything. You can go on the FBI tip forms and go fill out verbalist bullshit complaints against anybody. And guess what? Russell Brand is a perfect example of what they did. They went and hired people. went back eleven years in his history, found people on his social media that he was potentially romantically engaged or involved with, and went and talked to them and offered them money to make claims and allegations against him. This is the extent of the extortion that they're willing to go through. And when you look at what is a hoax, it's deliberate coercion, manipulation, order to coax in this case uh the public opinion in a particular direction and that's exactly what we're seeing from these files there's a lot a lot of that going on right now and the fbi needs to do a better job of making sure that the public understands what really they were going after what was really going on or if they were a part of it look if if jeffrey epstein was an asset potentially, then that's different than if Jeffrey Epstein was extorting the leadership of the agencies. It's a huge distinction and difference here, right? Huge difference. Yeah. So everybody wants to know that. They want to get to the bottom of whether or not epstein was one of ours or if epstein was compromising ours and there's all the camps out there you know he's a massad assay he was compromising people that's why israel is in control of congress why we have dual citizenship all the rest of that stuff is because he was massad and he infiltrated the government well great guess what It's a great possibility, but there's also other possibilities out there, and some of them people aren't talking about. Some people are talking about the fact that he has very close ties, family ties, and his networks all seem to have been pro-communist. Look what he was doing with Noam Chomsky. I mean, he was promoting a political agenda. And what do we see with globalists? The globalists all decided they wanted to go with communism for their global governance structure. You will own nothing and you will be happy. Yeah. Well, guess what? I only know of one government system where there is no private property. besides monarchies and dictatorships. But in what's referred to often as a democracy, communism, there is no private right to ownership. And so when they start- China has nationalized all the businesses. They own everything there. And that's what they want to do. That's what they are doing here with the public-private partnerships. That's nationalizing our businesses. And they do it to regulatory capture. I mean, we've already got it. Yep. And so what was Epstein doing? Who was he compromising? Regulatory people who are regulatory agencies, getting people put into run the regulatory agencies. I mean, this it just everything is connected and it's all going to come out. It just takes some time to educate the population. Mm hmm. Well, I think we're doing a pretty good job right now. The United States is, and honestly, a whole bunch of us that started asking those questions to find out what's really going on, you know, and you can have conversations with people now and they know exactly what you're talking about with Epstein and Robert Maxwell and Ghislaine Maxwell. And all of all this stuff, people are getting educated and they're being there. They're less likely to just sit and watch. They're asking those questions and then they're looking it up. They've learned to research for themselves. Huge deal. You know, if we want to govern our country, if we want self-governance, we have to be educated enough to do it and know when we're seeing something that is is wrong or or criminal. yeah gotta get to the bottom of primary sources this is something that you know we don't oh i gotta call primary sources don't do it jason don't do it tell him to go away and there he goes he's gone again so uh so i got So I'm sitting here thinking about all the things that he's mentioning via the files. If we couldn't get any justice on Epstein himself or the people that are connected there, this is why, again, I go back to asking that question. The fact that people are talking about all of the things that's being connected to Epstein. So... Everybody says, open the files, open the files, and now everybody's looking about all of it. They're asking questions about all of it. And yesterday I posted a comment about how they made such a big fuss about Trump saying they're eating the dogs, they're eating the cats. Now people are starting to talk about they're eating children. Okay, they're starting to talk about it, and that's why I shared that meme when I came across it. um some people are starting to talk about that i think it's so frightening and so it feels too far-fetched that some people don't want to go that far they don't want to fall into the category of being one of those conspiracy theorists but if you're looking and conspiracy is about ten minutes Yeah. If you're looking in the files because you're thinking you're going to catch Trump and then you come across the realization and the proof, these people were torturing and killing and sometimes eating children in the flesh and in their blood as a satanic ritual, as a self-empowerment, whatever purpose it was. That's a whole other thing, and that's part of that awakening process. You can't get justice until you get an awakening in that sense because you've got to recognize the depth and the breadth, the scope, and the level of criminality involved in that spiderweb. And if Epstein needs to be at the center of it, okay, we'll talk about him. We're not even hardly talking about did he die or didn't he? There's been a question about that too. Well, did they announce it the day before he actually died? Was there a record of that? That certainly happened before, so it wouldn't surprise me, but I'm also careful to not share just everything because I'm not looking in the files. I don't have the time for that. I don't have the interest of it. I'm trying to be careful about discerning what files are... edited or totally fake when it comes out that's why when i did share that but i shared a question about have you guys here heard anybody examining this more closely and finding out that it's fake because it wouldn't surprise me one way or another okay so we'll use epstein as a launch pad he is the stepping stone to the rest of the story the rest of the story is far more important than his role in my opinion Well, and I think, you know, to add to this, I think that there's a lot more of guys out there like Epstein. I really do. He's not a one-off. And the question is, what different levels are there of people that are doing this sort of thing? I mean, certainly he's at the top of the game here, compromising people in the different agencies. But I don't think he's the only one. I think there's many, many more out there. And at the different levels, I can tell you right now, I've got neighbors that have come right out and said that Byron Township has threatened them. You know, in different ways. Now, I don't think that it's being threatened in the same way. But but you know what I mean? It's like the control that people exert over other people is is wrong on every level. But you look at other countries that are involved in this, too. You know, there's a direct link with Epstein and, you know, Mossad. There's there's definitely a link there because you've got Robert Maxwell and and yada, yada, yada, you know. And so. But I think we're going to have to ask to to ask more questions and come to terms with this. You know, one thing I found out, you know, we had a place down in Florida that got wiped away by the hurricane and that that was kind of a Sad, sad, our little retirement trailer down there because I didn't want to have a lot of responsibility and I wanted it to be easy, right? And I found out some things by doing some investigation on this and what actually happened down there on how many people in that area are retired CIA agents. I couldn't believe it when one of the investigators brought that up to me. He said, well, you know that, don't you? I'm like, I know, I guess I'm just kind of clueless. And this is the other thing that all of us do is that we think that other people think like us, that they're like us, that we can't even conceive of other people hurting us. children or adults that's a good thing that's a good thing that we don't even think that way but in a way it disables us because we can't conceive of it so they could be walking right in front of us and we wouldn't even know it so the ability to to not think like that and yet question is an incredibly valuable skill and it's difficult to come to terms with things like that But I guarantee you, there's a lot of people out there yet and networks that are like Epstein. When I first got into the Anon networks, when I was doing a lot of research and such and And we had groups that we would get together and we would research things online to try to get to the bottom of things. A phenomenal time. I will never forget that time of my life. It was one of the things I will look back on my life with great fondness. And something came out about there was Alice in Wonderland was being talked about a lot. And there was something that was found and it was a group called the Wonderland Network. And it was all about child porn and abusing children. And to come to terms with how big this thing was, there were millions and millions of people in this. And it went on undetected. There were people that were able to get in underneath other websites. Now, I didn't go looking for this stuff. I knew it was out there, but I didn't go looking for this sort of thing. it sometimes would find you when you were just on and all of a sudden, whoa, you know, not the child porn or anything like that, but just uncomfortable facts. But finding out that this actually existed and how it operated was chilling to the bone. And then there were people that were showing online, they wouldn't show, because I wouldn't look at this stuff, but they would show how they would get behind different sites. Like, things you were familiar with. And there were code words that you could hack behind it. And there were parallel systems that were running where they were actually trading things that they shouldn't have been trading and making deals that shouldn't have been made. And, you know, you can look at, you can look at some of the websites that like Wayfair, Wayfair that had, that had furniture for sale for very, very high prices. Right. But the, it correlated with the missing children's list. So the names on these furniture correlated with missing children. And you'd have like a dresser that was for fifty five thousand dollars or something like that. Ridiculous that no one would ever do. And that was going on. And I documented it. A lot of people did wasn't alone. But there was a lot of us that cared enough about the world to throw this out there and say, guys, we don't know how bad it is because we've been we've basically been kept away from this. Thank God. Thank God that we were kept away from it. But some people walked into it and some people were pressured to go into it. There's a lot of blackmail out there, like what Epstein was involved in. But he wasn't the only one. And there were many people that jumped on this bandwagon in the agencies, in our government. Some of them were absolutely crazy. part of running drugs into this country through the southern border. I mean, it was our own government that was doing it. In Afghanistan, it was our own government that wanted to be there to keep the poppy fields open because they had to have another drug import in the United States to kill people. Same thing. Why is fentanyl here? Who's pulling the fentanyl? Why was the cocaine coming from Colombia? Why was all of this stuff being brought up here and everybody's like, wow, they're smuggling it in here. Are you kidding me? Who opened the door and hit it and enabled it to come back here? You know, I had somebody tell me at the Southern border that when they were bringing cocaine and what they would do, and this was at the border, this was people watching the border. And I'm not saying that all of them were into it, but enough. And they would bring the cocaine back or in the United States, they would take one percent of it, mix it with flour and destroy that. And the rest of it go right back over the border to be sold again. As people are hearing about this stuff, they're like, oh, you mean the president was involved? Okay, so that's a good start. You're recognizing that on a high level of government, there is... All you got to do is look at Bush. Yeah, all you got to do is look around at them, but then are you looking at... your state are you looking at your county are you looking at your local sheriff is your local sheriff doing anything for human trafficking or if they're not and they're not talking about it on a regular basis if there's no arrests being made and making the media what's your sheriff doing There was one yesterday that didn't couldn't even name the three branches of government and didn't know which he was in. That's that's one thing. But are they are they involved in the network? And when you start to realize that it's so widespread, you could have neighbors that are part of this network. You could have people running for your local government in your GOP party, getting selected by other criminals who are part of that same network. Because if they're doing election shams, would they be willing perhaps to be a part of a trafficking network? Or could there be pushed into being a part of that? Could they be getting paid to stop talking about it? Well, I think about this, Karen, you know, it's like when people don't typically just get into high level crime and go right to the top, they start being compromised somewhere, somewhere along the way, they got compromised and somebody got leverage over them. And once that leverage starts going, it's probably not going to stop because they're going to continue. The people that are pulling the levers will use that leverage to know that they committed one crime to get them or coerce them to do other worse things. So like when we look at the major corporations that own like everything, and we all know which ones they are, BlackRock, Vanguard, State Street Capital, Arabella, all of this. I mean, this is common knowledge, right? They own each other's stock and such. Who benefits from playing ball with them? The developers, the builders, the appraisers that steal the land from people and then raise the taxes so they can't live there anymore. And oh, now you're, you're captive. Now you're either going to do what they say, or they're going to take your water. They're going to take your land. You're going to, you got nowhere to go, but be at their mercy. And if that doesn't work, guess what? They're going to find a way to eliminate you. If you're no good to these people anymore. When you look at the structure of this, and I'm just going to tell everybody right now, look at the structure of who's playing ball in the corporatocracy that's going on out there, because you're going to start finding them in your area and who is getting the advantage or a benefit off of the policies that they do at the local level. Byron Township is going to be the poster child for this. So help me God, I'm going to make sure that this gets out in front of everyone so they can see what's happened. You know, you need to know. And they might be nice. You might've gone to church with them their whole lives and such. Drop that at the door. We don't know people. And the people that are manipulative like this, They're good at it. They're professional liars. And they have spent a lifetime doing this sort of thing. And so is it does it mean to be paranoid? No, it's not called being paranoid. It's being watchful, questioning everything and being smart. You don't want to be, you know, a sleep sheep. You know, somebody said the other day that that they saw they went in and they were checking things on. you know the x my tax group and what carla wagner said about me about being paranoid it's like being paranoid really that's what you that's all you got right now is say being paranoid i'd say that's being informed and not being afraid to look at things for what they are and evaluate them i think it's okay sticks and stones mate you call me anything you want not going to change anything for me because i don't really care about people's approval Yeah, we've talked about this kind of thing before, but now in the light of more evidence coming forward about the trafficking issues. So how does one get into office? You can be allowed to get into office, but I would suggest or offer people at least consider. You don't get into office now. You don't get through either major party of the two without permission. paying some dues. I can tell you a story that happened. Okay. This guy came to the taxpayers party, which is the constitution party in Michigan. And Benson won't let us change our name because they're trying to subvert it. It's intentional and it should just be an administrative file form thing. Right. But we're, we're still working on that one. But this, this guy calls me and he wanted to be a candidate on the taxpayer party. And so we were talking, you know, we talked off and on a little bit. And finally, he calls me one night and says, well, he said, I just decided to go kiss the rings of the people in the Republican Party because I want to get in to change things. I'm like, dude, you're already kissing the rings for them to say you're good to get good to go to get in. You think that you're going to get in and it's going to change? You're not going to change because they already have him compromised. And so if you go and you start doing this sort of thing, play ball with these people and kiss the ring, you're already, you're already a captured asset. Yeah. I was shocked at this conversation. I literally, I'm looking at my phone like this incredulous, listening to what this person said. And I'm like, unbelievable, unbelievable. I wouldn't put them in charge of an ethics, anything, you know? No, it's kind of like selling your soul to the devil. Exactly. There's probably somebody at home going, somebody say it. Somebody put it that way. Would you like me to delve into this a little bit deeper in the God sort of thing here and or the Satan sort of thing? Think about this. You know, the life is in the blood, right? The life is in the blood. Thereby, you know, so many things were connected to the blood, the blood of Christ. The life is in the blood. What happens when somebody willingly sells their soul to Satan? For all the people that don't believe that Satan is real or God is real or anything like that, I'm going to make you think about this. And why is it that they're literally... ingesting and or shooting up with the blood of children or eating them, okay? Why would they be doing this? Because they gave their life away. There's no life. If you have sold yourself or your soul to Satan, guess what? Your life's gone right there. And I've often wondered about this. Is it like, do they have to have that to at that point in time, stay alive on a spiritual level? I don't know. And I really don't know. Can they turn back to God and be redeemed? I believe they absolutely can. I think anyone can be redeemed if they truly turn to God and they ask forgiveness and ask him to come in and accept his gift of salvation, which Jesus died for all of our sins. His blood was shed. He shed his blood for us that we may live. Amen. And that is so significant to understand the spiritual implication of blood and why they're doing the adrenochrome and all of this. I actually know somebody that was unknowingly stabbed with a needle at a party and was shot up with adrenochrome. He was a victim. and walked away and was able to make sure that there was prosecutions. And I think it started him down the path to being a very good person to be willing to really lay his life down to make sure that this stuff was uncovered and people were held accountable. So I think it's extraordinary. But the spiritual implication of the blood, the life in the blood, it's the blood of Jesus Christ. And all who are willing may come to God. And he will, he will forgive you. And, and, you know, he says he will forgive, but it's only through the, it's only through the blood of Christ. Even if you've done the worst thing that you think you can't be forgiven, that's a lie from Satan. You can be forgiven. And it's just turned to God, accept his gift of salvation and say, you know what? I'm a sinner. I screwed up. I screwed up. And I accept your, I accept your gift of salvation of eternal life to be with you because he died even for me. And all of us have to come to that at some point in time, you know? So when you're seeing things like this, I would say there's a lot more questions to ask and it's not on a material world level. It's a spiritual, it's a spiritual thing. These people serve Satan, you know, and I think we're going to see more and more of this coming out. There's nothing new under the sun. This has been going on for how many centuries now? thousands of years. I mean, who is it? Mary Queen of Scots that bathed in the blood of virgins? Six hundred virgins? I mean, this is nothing new, guys. It's been going on. Go back and look at the sacrifices to Baal. It's been going on a long time. And it's... By the way, I did a subtext series on this, people. About the children. I think that a lot of people don't want to look at it because they realize and they feel their own guilt. They know that they've done things wrong. I mean, we all know when we do things wrong. I'm sorry. We can try to accuse ourselves or convince ourselves that, oh, we're fine. We need to accept ourselves as we are. But deep, deep down, people know. And, you know, it wasn't your fault that the sacrifices started. It wasn't your fault that people sacrificed babies to bail. You know, it just is. And it's our duty, it should be our duty, to turn away from these things, all of them, the crimes, the criminality, the lack of ethics, the hurting of children, of adults. Of, you know, of the things that come against all the good people that we know in our lives. We know good people in our lives that couldn't even conceive of these things. And that's a good thing, you know, and we have to step up and be willing to say the things that we're going to get accused of being crazy for. I think it's important. Now, this is why I think the awakening is so important, because they've done a great job. it making us think that these were old that this stuff never happens anymore that it was like in the dark ages these kinds of things happen they're part of old um paintings or sketches or cave drawings whatever it is no it's happening now and now that now that you know now that you know then you have to take action because if it you find it disturbing Yeah, we can look at a meme and laugh at it as a way of spreading the knowledge. It's kind of sick, but it helps everybody to kind of fathom it, you know, because I, like you, and I know you've seen the thing, I stumbled across one day these papers, and I don't know if the story is true or not, but the papers themselves looked real to me, where People are keeping children on an industrial level for their blood and torturing them for the level of quality in this blood. And people were obviously making a market of it. And I remember it was like one in the morning and I'm sitting on the couch just bawling my eyes out because I'm like, this is real. Like it just blew me away. And I found it so disturbing and horrifying. And my husband came out and he's like, What are you doing? What's going on? And he did not want to hear anything about that. He's not in a place where he was ready to be like, well, you're listening. How do you know this is real? And you're all upset about it, which is a reasonable question to ask. Well, am I being objective? No. In that moment, certainly not. It's totally fine. To take a moment and sit back and emotionally grieve over all of these innocent children and the children of all ages. They're all God's children. That's what I put in that sub stack. The scriptures about the millstone and all that. They're not talking about kids. They're talking about God's children. And we are all God's children. And when you realize that and you see the scriptures in the light of how it was, how it really, really was, then you realize that the scope is beyond little children. And we are most horrified at that idea of little children being used because they're so innocent. But what happens to them in the other end, they go straight to heaven. What if people are being tortured? who are older and they're killed and they don't have a chance to ask for forgiveness that one last time. Maybe they're not right with God. All of that matters. It doesn't matter whether somebody is young or old, if they're tortured and killed for somebody else's entertainment or for whatever purpose. They all matter to God. And it's okay to grieve when that happens and you find out about it. And I might have to write a sub stack if I didn't already about the biblical stories of people finding out what the law was and how far they had gone from the law. What did they do? They rent their clothes. They wailed. They poured ashes on their heads. They recognized how far they had gone from God. And we're not quite there as a country to say, I don't see people out in the street protesting and wailing because they finding out that people kill and eat children. Why haven't they? Why aren't they doing that in Minnesota? Why aren't they doing that in DC? Why aren't they in front of the courthouse or the Capitol building and protesting? We're finding out that some of you people in government have been involved in this. Why aren't they protesting that? Because it's too hard emotionally to even fathom it yet. So it's okay to get upset when you realize this is real and you were fooled. Then you have to do something about it. And like you said, to your point, it's okay to grieve that. It's okay to feel absolutely like I want to put a blanket over my head. You know, everybody deals with things differently. Some of these people that are out there protesting, they've been programmed because they were born into the system. They literally were born into the system. And I don't think they really had a chance. really, they were they were manipulated from the time they were kids. I mean, think about it. If you were a child, an offspring of one of these people that do this sort of thing, you might think it's normal. I mean, think about it quite you got to question it. Um, I'm not saying it's right. I'm not excusing it, but I'm saying that this, this whole issue is so complex and it's okay. If you don't deal with it the way I do, I literally will run right in the middle of the conflict in the fire, but that's the way I'm wired. There's, and it's probably not the best method, but it is mine. Right. But a lot of people, they, they can't do that. I have a daughter that she cannot handle talking about any of this. it just destroys her because she's got a very, very soft heart. And I understand that. And so we're all going to deal with everything that comes out differently. When we find out that our elections have been rigged and we've never had not one in our entire lives. If you're my age, I'm sixty one. There hasn't been one. Right. Kennedy was fighting against this. I was born two months before the Kennedy assassination. And it's like he was fighting it. And we've had good people fighting it ever since. There's always been good people around that will fight evil. And there's a lot of good people out there now. We're just confronting now. They may need us. The good people that have been fighting, all of us that have been fighting, and the good people that have been fighting, we need each and every person to out there to join in this. And when you're ready, get past and you get past the trauma, the emotional trauma of what you're going to see, what's going to come out. We need everyone's help in order to talk to other people, to be a comfort to others. It's not your fault that they're eating kids, okay? This is nobody's fault that has a good heart that is shocked right now. It's not your fault. It just is. There is evil in the world. And so, you know, then when we're ready, We go ahead and we move forward and say, maybe baby steps, maybe say, you know what? I can start posting some of this and, and I'm going to be brave because people are going to call me names. They're going to call me crazy. Other people are maybe not going to want to be around me and we may get brave and we may say, but I'm going to do it anyway. And that's a good thing, you know, and maybe it's just too hard to deal with like my daughter and I get it, you know? She gets sick. She absolutely gets sick over any of this stuff. And those are the people that we need to kind of protect and say, you know what? This is coming out and you probably saw something. So let's just go be good people and have coffee together. How are you doing? How are you doing? Are you okay right now? Let's have coffee and just laugh. you know, and go back to trying to be some sort of normal, even though this stuff exists, and it's always existed. Yep. I've always said, Karen Rivner says, find your role to play. Yeah. And there is certainly something for everybody in this. There are people, remember when I came back from that december a couple years ago when i went to the trafficking seminar yeah that flynn's people put on and everybody our buddy general flynn you know i met him briefly i met mary i met um uh i can't think of her name right now i met a bunch of people but um There was one of the seminars that I went into, there was a man from Arizona. I brought back his card and I told you, you should put him on the show. He. he was part of a men's only operation in arizona in which they they catch men online in social media looking for prostitutes and they have a very good process of informing them that what they're doing is actually hurting people And some of them turn away from it right away. They don't want anything to do with it. But occasionally they'll break through where somebody is, you know what? I'm addicted to this. I don't want to go that far because I can't see myself doing that, which is the next step. And they want to turn their lives around. They want to get help and they end up coming back and helping others. It's not for everybody. And they do it with just men because he says, you can't have women helping women or helping men. You have to have men tell another man, you're screwing up. Did you know that? That some of these people that you're watching in these videos and these porn videos They they probably didn't get paid for it. They're forced to do it and they're forced to smile They're hurting because you're paying them to do it. You're perpetuating criminal activity It's not just something that people enjoy and they make money off of and they they do it for a living and they like their career There are people being forced to do this against their will and The people who are watching it get addicted to it. They stop being the man that they should be. And they become criminals themselves by going to other steps in which they're looking to harm people in real life in other ways. And again, some of these people just didn't even know. They just thought, oh, I'm just watching a porn thing because it's entertainment for me. No, it's not. It's much further. And it takes an awakening process to recognize how harmful this kind of stuff is. That man that I saw in the seminar found his role to play. And I guarantee there's some hard stuff that he and those other men have experienced. They've witnessed some probably pretty bad conversations, at least. And they've caught some people. But their aim is to prevent crime and to help people come out of that. And that, what a great role to play. But like I said, it's not for everybody. And if you're one of those soft-hearted people who doesn't want to face those roles that are more emotionally challenging, there's another role for you that you can do to help people to prevent crimes, to catch people in crimes, to create legislation that's good and make sure that it sticks and it does what it's supposed to do, and also do away with the majority of legislation that is not constitutional and doesn't help anybody. You have to learn to start with. We've also encouraged that. But if nothing else, if you're a parent or you have access to kids, that... I shouldn't say have access to kids because that sounds kind of funny. If you have children in your circle of influence that need care and that need education, you can do what you can to help raise them in a world where the community is providing good information to them and raising them so that they know what a man is supposed to be and a woman is supposed to be. I'm not talking about political brainwashing because people... That's why I was trying to be careful about what I say. I don't like it when people take kids and turn them into political protesters. They don't understand this stuff. Let them be kids. They need to be kids and you protect them and teach them to have common sense and discernment. Teach them how to... raise food, how to take care of animals, take care of their little sister and their big brother, and how they can relate to other people in a positive way instead of shouting at other people and being violent to their teachers and making their world about politics or entertainment, teach them how to be strong young men and women. If you do that, that's one of the most powerful roles that you can do. And everybody can be a part of that. I have access to two little kids at church that I see every week. and just trying to build a relationship with them and teach them to be confident in themselves and just be kids, you know? I'm not a parent, but I can look out for them. Do things that encourage people to have empathy for others. You know, the difference between a psychopath, what defines a psychopath or a predator is lack of empathy. They don't see people as people. They see them as things. And, you know, there's so many things that we can teach with animals, you know, the kindness of a puppy or a kitty or something like that, you know, that the beauty of life in all forms and to celebrate that life. And to be that positive when the darkest day is here and you shine for Christ, you're the light in the darkness because his light shows through us. So, you know, if things are bad out there, guess what? Tag, you're it. You get to be that person that has the ability to shine and the opportunity to show people And teach them about God. Teach them about what goodness is and empathy and caring about other people and visiting people that are stressed, helping carry other people's burdens and focusing on those things that are the best, that make people wonderful. You know, we can... we can go on and out even though even though we may not feel it it's like you see down in brandenburg with a smile like this and i might just be going and here's your lawsuit have a nice day you know but not go you do you know what i mean it's like you can do things even having to address situations There's a time where you get the cowboy boots up and you go at it. But normal people, you have to have the discernment to know the difference between the intention and the character of an individual. Epstein, he doesn't give a rip about anybody. He's going to go out and eat kids and screw kids and whatever else he was doing. I don't really want to know. But you know what I mean? It's like that kind of a person is the one you come down on like ugly on an ape, okay? And there's no negotiating. Most people that are in your circle of influence, they're probably just normal people. And they may be making mistakes and they may be motivated by a lot of fear. A lot of people are, you know, I do horse training and I have horses. And the main motivation for horses is survival and fear. People are the exact same way. They do stupid things because they are afraid or scared. or they're in survival you want to know one of the biggest fears that people have is they want the approval of people around them so they'll do terrible things to gain possessions or they will do things to make people around them think they're a real big cheese and on some level or big dog the big dog in the pack right that's that's highly manipulated that that person is highly susceptible to manipulation the person that craves the approval of others or strangers. That's total insanity, right? So when you look at people and you can make them feel that security of being around you, that you're not judging them if they're just a human being, right? They're just doing stuff that people do and we're all fallen, right? And that we give people grace and And mercy when they make mistakes so that they know that you're not just going to throw them in a heap somewhere and then destroy them when they destroy you when they walk away, you know, with, you know, with your words. Being very cautious about what you say about people because words absolutely can destroy people. Don't pass on information and gossip about people because most of it is just crap. It's somebody who's got, wants to get their pound of flesh out of somebody else for whatever reason it may be. And it's probably, maybe there might be one percent of truth in it. We don't know. But there's a lot better things to talk about, like how to make the world a better place. What can we grow? How can we get a plan to see people who are suffering and And figure out how to try to ease their burdens, whether you bring them a meal or just sit there with them when they're sad, when somebody dies. Just being there quiet, not trying to fix their problem. Let them do it themselves. You know, just be there for them so they're not alone. Huge, huge thing. That's a big deal with horses is that horses cannot and hate to be alone. And if they've got an owner, it's even better because you're the apex predator on the planet. And they know that if the boss says it's okay, they're safe. And they can actually relax and have, you know, they're not always on, you know, high alert to everything. And a squirrel jumps out at them and they think they're going to die. You know, people are like that. People are very afraid. Goats are like that too. Yeah. Donna's not much like that. So, you know, it's just like, I don't know. And I don't think you're much like that either. But it's a skill to learn to have that confidence. Yeah. It's a skill. Takes time. And also the reliance on God. You know, when you serve God and you serve God alone, the rest of the world becomes something to serve instead of something to desire. Yeah. I was watching Dr. Pohl episode in which he's going to the fair, the annual fair, and all the four age kids are showing their animals. So they had some kids that within the few months before the fair, they had a problem with their animal and he had to go out and help them so that they could show it at the fair. And this is a really, really big deal to them. It's not just about prizes. It's about they can raise funds for college even with it. But you had these little kids that start out. And this little girl, she's just a tiny thing. And she says, I thought that this was really hard. Like handling her lamb is about probably weighs twice as much as she does. And she says, it was really hard work. I didn't think I could carry the feed and all this and that. But I did it. And then she goes to the show and she's got this biggest smile on her face. And you could see even from earlier when her lamb had an issue to later on when she's showing it, the confidence level that she has grown in because she has been in charge a hundred percent of this animal that needed her care. and she was responsible for it. She fed it, she cared for it. And then she gets to show it off to other people, strangers and family alike, her whole community backed her. And when these kids auction off their animals, I think Charles, Dr. Pohl's son, he bought a lamb for over a thousand dollars it comes to for this lamb that he pays for. It's not the price of the value of the meat on the animal. It's the fact that the whole community funds them going to college and lets them know you did the right thing. We're so proud of you. You've learned some really good things. And you see these kids, how they talk, how they're sociable. They can communicate clearly. They have common sense. They have a work ethic. They have a sense of responsibility. They understand the difference between life and death and the value of those things. It's amazing. And it's so wonderful to see that happening from regardless of what kind of animal they're raised in or how long they've been doing it. It makes a world of difference. And so when I say find your role to play, There's an example, you know, the difference that it takes those kids versus kids that are, you see them in restaurants everywhere. I do occasionally where they can't even be taught to sit still in church or at a restaurant for a half an hour. They got to have a digital thing in their lap. And then people wonder why they're committing suicide later on because they're too involved in social media and And they're getting bullied by strangers on the internet and they have no coping skills for that. And no front, no real friends because away from people on social media, you don't in real life, you stick with people and you work things out, you learn skills, you know, and it's not always comfortable. Sometimes you have to stay with, you know, in a situation, I'm not talking about somebody that's being abused, but you know what I mean? There's always, there's always difficult. You get two people together and there's always going to be some rubs. You don't all, you never ever agree with anyone all the time. I was a sensitive little kid and we moved around a lot. You're sensitive now too. I'm a big kid. Yeah, I'm a sensitive big kid now. But we moved to a new school. I was a year younger. This is sixth grade. I'm a year younger. I'm smarter than just about everybody in my class as far as grades go. I'm not rich. So my clothing is not up to par. um my hair isn't the standard i was growing just starting into puberty and my hair started doing funky things because i had a jean for natural curls and it's it kicked in at about this time and i didn't know what was going on with that or how to deal with it took me a few years to figure it out and so i was not the most popular person in class i was on the bottom rung and i got I got picked on pretty heavily. I did have one teacher that looked out for me and she actually sent me out of the room one day because nobody would trade papers with me to grade. Nobody. And so she sent me on an errand to the office and she gave the whole class a talking to. And when I came back, I had somebody that had graded my paper in the meantime and congratulated me on my good grade. And I knew instantly something had happened. I knew that she had to have done something. People were nicer to me after that for a little while. But she tried to do something to look out for me. And I haven't forgotten it. But there were days when I would come home from school and I would be crying. I don't want to go back there again. It was horrible. And I don't remember my mom sitting down and coddling me. I do remember her saying, yeah, you're going back to school tomorrow. But I must have had enough fortitude. up to that point in my life, enough something from my parents that strengthened me enough that I could go back day after day and face it head on. And it wasn't until two, three years later when I finally just said to myself, look, you're smart. You're kind. You know you're a good person. What do you care about what everybody else has to say? You can tell somebody that all you want. But that day it clicked. That self conversation clicked. I went to school. And I was left alone. I was like that antelope on the field that the lions don't even look at. They're looking for somebody else that's laying because I wasn't. And the energy shift was palpable that day, just like that. It was amazing. So I learned a lot. Boy, I wish I knew that when I was a few years younger. And I did. I still carry that weight. Where I'm still affected by how others view me and how I relate to other people. I'm constantly looking in a self-evaluating. How am I coming across? How are other people looking at me? Because I was trained in my youth that it's like socializing a puppy. That never goes away. When there's a problem and they're a puppy, they're going to be afraid of thunderstorms and fireworks for the rest of their life if there's a bad one when they're little. Or if they get attacked by a big dog, they're always going to hate other dogs. You can do all the training in the world with people, but those things do affect them for the rest of their lives sometimes. Sometimes they just go to therapy or whatever and get over it. But I'm so grateful that I wasn't stuck in that world of social media when I was that age, that I learned to build friends. I went to other people and said, hey, can I hang out with you at lunch today? I literally did that. And by the time we had to move again in the middle of a school year, I had friends throwing me a party because they were so sad I was leaving. Wow. And we didn't keep in touch for very long after that, but still there's a transformation there that comes from within. And it doesn't happen if you're not raising your kids to have those meaningful relationships and recognizing their self-worth, whatever you have to do to help your community raise kids with that so that they can have the fortitude when they're To face the battles like Donna is facing right now. You can't go to your township and stand up and speak against them if you don't have a little courage. And if you don't know anything about your community and you're not interested in those things because nobody's taught you to. Then nothing gets changed and they forget another generation or two that there were people eating children. That kind of stuff gets hidden if we don't keep talking about it. Yeah, so it doesn't repeat. You know, talking about things that happened in our past that affect us going forward. I had a lot of abuse when I was a kid, a lot. And I know people that were in similar kind of situations that I went through. And what I can tell you is when you have things that are not ideal in your background and you're struggling with it, the modern way to deal with it is to relive it, relive it, relive it, and relive it and explain it. You know what? You can't explain things like that. There's no way to explain it. It wasn't your fault. But you can decide what you're going to do with it going forward. You can decide to be a victim and have that be the flag that you walk under. Or you can choose to say, yep, that happened. It sucked. And I'm never going to let it happen again for sure. But you know what? I'm going to take this because I know the situation and I will step in front of any threat to another person or whatever you feel comfortable for and And be the change in that situation. You can help other people because you do know what it was like to go through that and not go back to the pain, but say, you know what, that made me who I am. And without it, I probably wouldn't have the strengths that I did develop because of it. And look at the positive, look at the positive things. We're going to go through this time that we're all going through and we're all going through it together to see some really bad things. Okay. Some of the things that have happened to us that come from our government or the agencies, we've all been enslaved by these absolute bottom feeder people that don't care about other people. Wasn't your fault. It really wasn't your fault. Evil just exists. There's no explaining it. There's no excusing it. There's no explaining it. You come through it and you look back and say, yep, that sucks and I will never let this happen again. And now you're equipped because you know what to look for. You know, you have every time that something bad happens, instead of reliving it, go, yep, I learned something from that. And guess what? Today, I'm a different person than I was yesterday. And yesterday, it's just a bad memory at this point in time. It's not real. It's in the past. And we can take those lessons that were so painful to us in the past. and use that to help other people. It's all about service. It's all about serving God and serving other people and not just taking it all into ourselves, the hurts and making that become, making yourself become those hurts. And, you know, you look at a lot of the people that are protesting out there, their hate and their anger is what they've become. They relive it every day instead of saying, yeah, I don't like this. So I'm going to do something positive. in the world because of this because I know how to fix it because I was in that situation you know yeah and and I think I think when when I came to terms with the fact that yesterday is just a memory it's not real those threats that were there they don't exist and You've got what you have today and you can go forward, you know, and you may have to deal with the situation, but the hurts aren't there. And going forward, you don't have to allow yourself to be hurt. You can move out of that and make some changes. It's not always comfortable. I get it. I get it. And sometimes it takes a little while to get yourself out of those situations. But if you make a plan and you say, you know what? I left home at seventeen. Okay. and decided that I was going to do something radically different. and so you know put myself through college worked all the time i worked two to three jobs all the time and uh and that was a good thing that was a good thing i'm i'm okay with that um it wasn't easy but there's other things you know that we all go through and it's not always easy to make those changes because it's much more comfortable to be in a familiar situation you think that if we this is human beings okay human beings don't want anything to change because we think we've got it figured out And that figuring the situation out where we are stops us from having to think more and figure out other situations. So we'll sit right there. It's like, you know, the Bible talks about a dog going back to his vomit. This is us. OK, it is us. It's a hard reality to come through, but we will go back to what's familiar to us instead of making a break and saying, yep, I'm going to have to figure out something new. It's not comfortable. But guess what? You can do this. We can do this. We can learn and figure things out. We don't have to go back to what's familiar. We don't have to go back to things that are cult like structures, like the political parties. We don't have to go back to them. We can figure out something new and we can make it way better than what we're stuck with now. That's an exciting that's an exciting thought for me. I'm like, yeah, let's do this. You know, let's seriously do this thing. And, and make those changes. But the confidence is that, you know, you have to realize, know your own heart, get right with God, ask him when things change, ask him to, to, you know, be with you and lead you and then let go. Let them do that. You know, don't, don't fight them and watch things go in a direction you never thought it was going to go. Couldn't have imagined it. If you eat even in your, on your best day, you couldn't have even imagined it. And all of a sudden it just will start working out. And then you're going to, it may be a little difficult, but you're going to see, eventually you'll see why this had to happen and the strength that you got out of making that change. is going to be amazing. Totally amazing. It's a good thing, you know? Yeah. Yeah. I love talking about this kind of stuff, human behavior and understanding us human beings and why we act the way we do. What's the motivation? And explain things that seem like they're unexplainable. There was a seminar in Detroit, another one in which a woman who was a survivor, and I got her book. She was talking about how to... not just survive, but thrive. You're not a victim anymore when people have been victims of this trafficking stuff. And she did a really great analogy in which she had three volunteers come to the front of the room. Basically, she ended up proving that you can't, continue moving forward if all you do is move back. And a lot of what people think of when it comes to things like therapy is that you go to a counselor and then you rehash over and over and over and over and over the bad thing that happened to you. But that's not how one moves forward. You have to stop doing that. There comes an acceptance of it, a recognition, okay, this did happen to me. And it was wrong then. Yeah. There's people that I heard about one that she forgot until she had a child and took it to her parents to visit. She didn't have a really good relationship with them. And you saw her father sit little girl on his lap and instantly She had a flashback and she wanted to get that kid out of that house so bad because she knew she had had some bad abuse happen when she was a little girl. And her brain hid that from her for decades. And now it's come back. The memories are there. And she instantly moved to protect her child as a result of it. That kind of thing happens. Does she need to sit and dwell on what had happened in the past? Can she get justice and move forward at the same time? Or does she let it go and just focus on moving forward? Those are tough decisions. But moving forward doesn't happen if you don't look forward. It was a really interesting seminar because I hadn't been through that level of abuse. I don't know what that's like, but it's very encouraging for other people and not just people who have been through a terrible level of abuse of any kind, but also for those who know someone or comes across someone who has been abused. And they can say, there is a future for you and it's better and it's brighter than what you're living in right now. I've seen it. I've seen proof of it. Look, here's a book. Yeah, I think, and it's possible. I mean, I can tell you that there were things that I know that my brain blocked out for a few years because I think I was too young to actually deal with it and remembered and confronted the person. and said, I remember that person went white as a ghost. And it was, it was one of those moments and it does happen. I mean, there's it's not when things bad things happen to you. It's not necessarily your fault. And You know, it's you don't have to like it and you, you don't, you don't have to like it, but you can go, you can go on and facing what we're going to face as a nation. I think we're going to face some very large changes and we're going to look back and go be horrified with what has been around us and what, you know, that what we're going to see and what we've experienced. And that's not your fault. You can't explain evil away. When evil starts kicking in and takes control, there is no justification for it. You can't explain it. You can't make excuses for it. You can't decide, well, it wasn't really that bad. Yes, it was. And it's okay to say, yes, it was that bad. But evil will do evil. It's not capable of doing good. And that's part of what we have in our world. We've got a mixed bag here. And we just have to navigate it, not let it take us down. And, you know, just pick up and go forward. That's the best advice I can give anybody because I have watched people that had been in the same situation that I was in, and it was bad, okay? And it literally has destroyed their lives. They've allowed it to destroy their lives because they can't go past it. I think this analogy, if we make it into an analogy, our stories are very different, but they have similar paths in a way. Our country is like an abused child. You know, we are finding out that we were abused and then we didn't even know about it. As a country, as a world, how are we going to move forward? When you put that filter on and you look at what's happening around the world now, you can see we're not the only ones having this conversation and trying to figure out how we can move forward with this knowledge. How can we prevent this from happening again? It's going to be ongoing. And if we don't recognize the crimes that have happened, we're not going to be able to move forward, but we can do it. It's not always going to be easy, but we can do it. You know what the first step is? You know what the first step is? Honestly, it's pretty easy. I mean, it's in the instruction manual for life, which is the Bible. Okay. The instruction manual tells you exactly what you need to do to get out of any and every dark spot. We just got to listen, right? Pray for those people that you see as an enemy or somebody that hurt you. Pray for them. Bring God into this thing. And realize that I've often wondered this about, say, like Hillary Clinton. When did she go astray to the point that she did? And a lot of us know a lot of what she's done with Huma Abedin and on and on and on. How did they go astray? Were they at some point in time, they were born as a child. What was it that kicked them over the edge to do bad things? I don't have the answer for that. But you know what? I think it's worthy to pray because once you start praying for people that have hurt you and ask God to help them and, you know, redeem them and help them, And you forgive them when you forgive somebody, you don't forgive them for them. You forgive them for yourself. Amen. It's not when you, if somebody comes up and they, they like, you know, they, they come up and they hurt you and they hurt you really badly. You have to make peace in yourself and say, you know what? I'm going to forgive them for whatever reason. They're off base here. They're doing the wrong thing. They hurt me. And I, it's not about me. It's about them. they behave badly and just say, I don't know why they did this, but you know what? I'm going to forgive them and realize that they're hurting too. When people perpetrate crimes, the hurt that they're carrying in them that motivates them to do the bad things that they do is way worse than what the people that are victimized by them, um, quite often feel. Now, people who are true psychopaths, they don't even, they, they've got no clue. And, uh, um, studied that when I was working with the hospice bereavement programs and getting, helping people learn to get over grief. There, there are people that are wired wrong and they sometimes are born that way. Uh, Sam Backman wrote some books on that and he is a self-proclaimed true, uh, non-empathetic narcissist and or you know he's he's in it and he can't feel what other people feel it's impossible for him it's some people are wired that way some people it happens before they're four years old and their needs weren't met and they they go down that room and i'm not talking about somebody talks about themselves i'm talking about somebody who actually hurts other people and enjoys it There's a difference there. There are those kinds of people out there. There are. But was it their fault that they were wired that way? Is it somebody's fault that they were born without arms? No. Is it a birth defect? Yeah, maybe. But to carry the anger and to carry that hurt and anger, it only hurts you. So we can go into every day and say, you know, God, I forgive everything. And let him work through your life and watch the healing that will come when we lay it down. We lay it all down and we walk away from the things that we're carrying from the past. You have no fear at that point in time. you don't have things that bother you so much. You go, that's just the way it is. And I guess that's the way I'm not going to repeat it, you know, and I'm not going to let anybody else repeat it, but, but it's just the way it is. It's an imperfect world we live in. It's a sinful world. And, and it's, it's not your fault. It just is. So Jesus is going to come back. And when he does, he we're promised, We'll be a new creation, new bodies, our heavenly bodies, the new creation, the new world. And the closer we get to having Jesus in our lives and in the world, the way the world runs, the closer we get to it being on earth as it is in heaven. So it's something to strive for. It's not something to wait and say, oh yeah, God's going to come back and make everything right for me. No, this is our job right now to live the way that we're supposed to live and work for this world to be on earth as it is in heaven. Do you know what that is? If you're not reading the instruction manual, probably don't. You know, instruction manual, go to the Bible, find a good translation, you know, and And, you know, start realizing that the entire Bible is a Bible of bad examples. It's not all these people had all the answers. They all screwed up. The only one didn't was Jesus. Everybody else was a sinful human being and screwed up. Just like we do. And we can learn from their mistakes. I know you're probably thinking, I didn't sleep all night. We've been on the air for almost three hours now. So I'm going to say this before I don't get a chance to. This show, number one, is reminiscent of the old days. Yes. We've covered a lot of the kinds of things that we've been covering since the start of BNN. Number two, this show is an example of why Donna deserves to be governor and why she did not concede and why she should get the diamonds back. because you have proven your faith you have proven your ethics you have proven your fortitude to not concede to fight the evil of this world to talk about grieving and how we can do that as a whole and The parts of the body being how everyone needs to find their path within this system moving forward. All of that is a part of why Donna Brandenburg should have the title of governor and sit in that seat. And I'm glad to bring it back around to why we have this show that we have this conviction because this continues the fight. It proves that you were right. It proves that they were wrong. And it will prove more people, I think, will have had a role to play and we shall see some justice one way or another. And I hope that includes diamonds because we need to get rid of everything that we possibly can The current quote-unquote governor who's sitting in that seat when she doesn't deserve it, we need to get justice for that and turn that around. She did a lot of damage in this time, but I think it's recoverable. Anything is redeemable with God. Anything is possible with the Lord. God Almighty can do anything. If he can raise the dead, if he can heal people spontaneously... If, you know, if he can redeem us, he can do anything, you know, everything can be fixed. And so we, we just, we just went through a rough patch in history here, you know? So, but, but, well, I thank you for saying that. I really do. You know, I'm kind of hoping that these lawsuits kind of pay out because I have a list of great projects that I would love to do in the community to fund. And so then I can go back to shoveling horse manure, which is what I really, you know, and doing beats and that sort of thing. I don't, I don't want the nonsense that I was promised. Cause of course I was, I was promised anything and everything. If I would, if I would take, if I would take the bait, you know, like, I'm not kind of interested in that. It sounds like a really bad idea, you know? And, And you win. If you win, you got to win. Honestly, you live your life, live your life. Honestly, honestly, do the right thing. Even if there's a, I think I did a post a couple of weeks ago or a week ago or something about, um, the difference between somebody who isn't afraid of consequences or, or to lose things when they step up to do the right thing. That is a, that is a, uh, a person that is willing to risk injury to themselves to do the right thing. And that's a huge separator between character of people. You got to run through it and say, okay, this may end up in disaster, but I know it's the right thing and I'm going to do it anyway. you know, no matter what it is, but thank you for saying those nice words. And, and, uh, you know, I see the world too. It's kind of like a mom. I'm, I'm, I'm a mom. I love being a mom. I mom, everybody and everything, you know, I see something wrong. I'll go and try to try to fix it and make it better generally. Right. And can you, can you imagine all the good we could do if we got into those positions and seeing people with empathy and compassion and And as well as balance. I mean, God is a perfect balance between that empathy and forgiveness and justice. You have to have both because you can't have people that are breaking the law steamrolling everybody that's just a nice person that's trying to get along, you know? But think about all the amazing things that we could do. I have a list, okay? I have a list that is kind of like the ability to... really teach people their value again. and to help people get their hearts back after being neglected. I mean, when I look at our population, I look at a population that's been neglected, stomped on, betrayed, stolen from, imprisoned and such, dragged through the mud, hurt. You go in the court systems and see what these courts do to people. I feel sick when I see it because they're not about justice. They're about revenue generation off of people's lives. And the, I, I walk out of there sometimes and I think about these people that I've seen that have been there for different reasons. And, and I honestly feel really heartbroken over it. And it's like, Oh, this thing, this thing's got to come to an end the way that, that it's being currently run because it doesn't serve the people. It hurts the people. But I see we, the people is, is kind of a forgotten and neglected thing. like a horse, you know, in a way because neglected horses are people that abuse horses. What they do is they'll run their legs off of them for their own pleasure. They don't see them as, as having feelings and animals have the same feelings we do. Horses certainly do. And so, you know, to, to I had to think how to frame this. We are all in a position of being abandoned and neglected and abused from the system that we're in right now. Yeah. Yeah. So to take that and look into each other's eyes and say, you matter, you matter. And they celebrate what other people, their gifts, their talents that God gave them. He gave each and every one of us incredible gifts, an incredible capacity to love, to care about each other, to stop and look and be that change that we need. It comes from person to person. It's not some funded government agency that's just money laundering. It's us. And I, that's the thing that I like, I've been doing a lot of research lately, you know, and, and keeping lists, lots and lots of lists on how to, you know, how to come alongside of people. That's what the Holy spirit does. He comes alongside of us and he walks with us in life and says, you know, I believe in you, you might fall, you may screw up, but you know what? God's going to set you back on your feet and say, let's do this again. Let's do this until we get this right. And I, And until the gifts that God's given you become so sharp that you know who you are and you know you're a child of God and it changes everything. It really does. The purpose is there. You don't feel lost anymore. Be like, you know, I know what I'm supposed to be doing, so I do it. And yeah. And it's amazing. It truly is amazing. But anyhow, well, we should probably move on. We've been on here for about three hours. And I literally didn't sleep all night because I was doing the Brandon Burr happy dance for this criminal conviction of people that harmed every single one of us. This wasn't about me getting kicked off the ballot. It was the casualty of it. It was about all of us. Every single one of us had our rights taken away by evil people. Our voice was not heard in our elections. We couldn't vote for who we wanted to vote for. And there's people all over the place that were bought into this we're not done with this yet this goes a long long way out from this but you know what we're going to stand together we're family america is an american family and i don't want to hear about anybody's stupid dog pedigree that tells breed race gender whatever that is and you know this your human being your person your family just a friend they haven't met yet right And we're mutts. We are some of the toughest people on the planet to do the right thing. Americans are generous. We're incredibly generous. We see somebody that's hurting and we want to step in and help. It's an amazing thing. And you know what? We're going to figure this out going forward. And even if something really Unfortunate happens. I expect we're going to see a few other things that are not going to be fun, good or pleasant. I think we're going to see a lot of that. Well, guess what? We're tougher than that. We're going to come together. We're going to figure this out. We're going to serve God. We're going to serve each other. And we're going to pick up those pieces and we're going to rebuild and make this thing amazing. And it's not going to be somebody else that's going to come and rescue us. It's going to be us standing together, doing what families do. in the best sense of the word i'm looking forward to it it's gonna be great it's gonna be fantastic so and there you go so what do you what do you say is there anything you want to put in right now let's go to prayer and we're going to pray for everyone we're going to pray for the victims of abstein we're going to pray for abstein because i don't think he's dead you know it's like Yeah, there's all kinds of people that are not dead. And there's other people who are dead that we think are alive. I mean, I don't know. Look at the mask on Biden. I'm pretty sure that that guy has exited. And his trip into the presence of God Almighty probably wasn't all that pleasant. So there we go. I said it. You have to see The Conspiracy Theorist. Conspiracy Theory. That's the movie with Mel Gibson. I know it's just one of those that you should see. Everybody should see it. He was spot on on a lot of things. He might have been a little loony, but he was MKUltra. You gotta give him a little grace there. Did you see something in the news the other day that Ted Kaczynski, you know, the Unabomber? Yeah. Someone came out that said a lot of his targets had something to do with Epstein. I haven't heard that one. Yeah, that one came out. So I'm kind of, I'm kind of curious now. We're going to see where some of these things go. You know, I don't have the answers, but you pay a little attention, you can kind of go, well, okay. Yeah, let's see where this goes. But. That's the way it's going to be with everything. There's a danger in becoming a critical thinker that as you find out things like, oh my goodness, people were killing and eating children and etc., Then suddenly the idea of that nine, eleven wasn't real. You know that what we were told in the narrative wasn't real. That JFK's assassination wasn't what we've been told that. Maybe Kennedy's alive, you know, all these kinds of things. There's so many different conspiracy theories that are garbage. And there's others that are spot on. And there's everything in between. And so it's hard to, once your mind is open, then the veil is lifted and you're open to all kinds of theories. But it's a tricky place to be. And that's okay, too. Do you remember DexNet, which was with certain really good people that kind of infiltrated into the Iranian nuclear program and set it back twenty years? I've studied this. This is really amazing. I've heard you say a few things about it before. Most of the people that actually were privy to this, their greatest honor would be never to be found out who they were. though I would love to go and shake their hands. It was absolute brilliance. It was relying on God Almighty to take things that they launched and pray to God that they actually went where they were supposed to because they had to have the faith that it was going to get there. They used different methods and such. I would love to shake every one of these people's hands because it was freaking brilliant. And I think we're in that situation right now where the people that planned this out were probably working with God and trusting a lot and following his It was his plan. However, I'd love to shake every single one of their hands because where we are right now is amazing. Totally amazing. And we're probably never going to know all of them. And I don't think they want to be known. I think they did it for honor and to do the right thing, not for money or appreciation or payback or anything like that. And I have so much respect for these people. I know I've met some. And I have a tremendous respect for them. It's amazing. What a time to be alive. What an honor to be here now that God would choose us now to be here during this time. It is an honor. So let's walk forward with honor, bravery, and integrity. And let's do this thing because we're going to. So anyhow, dear Heavenly Father, thank you so very much for Karen and Ralph and Jason and all the wonderful people out there that care about this nation and care about human beings and animals and your creation and everything you've done. I ask that you bless them, that your favor would rest upon them mightily, that you would make the path in front of them straight. We ask that no matter what path we walk on, that you would give us the feet and the strength and the focus to walk the paths that you put ahead of us, not feeling sorry for ourselves, but being honored that you would think us worthy to walk those paths that you laid before us. And that we ask for strength that we would walk them without faltering. That would be in your strength as you walk with us. And at times carry us. We thank you for that so much. And you know what? We trust you unwavering. We love you. Unwavering. We will follow you. Unwavering. We trust your character to be good all the time. We love you. We pray for those people that are doing the wrong thing, that they would turn to you and that they would say they're sorry and be brought into your family because I know that they're all your children and you want everyone to turn to you and do the right thing and not do these evil things. We ask that you would send a mighty move of your spirit across this earth, this country, and that we would see it and acknowledge it for what it is. It's not driven by anything except for your Holy Spirit having mercy upon us and upon sinners to turn us around, to redeem us, to set things straight. And we just want to let you know that we give everything to you, all the honor, the glory, everything we have or are or ever will be. We lay that at your feet. And we love you and thank you because you stayed with us. You cared about us, not when we were perfect, but when we were yet sinners. And that love, we aspire to have that type of love that you have and that you are. You're a great father and we love you. In the name of Jesus Christ, we pray. Amen. Amen. There we go. We're even going to throw the kid eaters in that. Turn them around, please. You know, this is not okay with us. And we want the world to be on earth as it is in heaven. In Jesus' name we pray. So there we go, boys and girls. So we're going to go to that part of the show where I proudly declare that ding, ding, ding, ding. Go to brandenburgforgovernor.com because I'm the best non-conceder who has ever not conceded in the history of the United States of America. Maybe the world. I don't know. But at any rate, and I want to have a discussion with the rightful president of the United States in Mar-a-Lago. President Donald J. Trump. And we're going to have discussions. First of all, like I always say, we're going to have it in cowboy boots because I will wear them better because I wear them every day. And then we're going to fix stuff and talk about the subversion and the unwavering way that evil has to be dealt with. It has to be dealt with. And that's going to be a whole new chapter. And the other side is how we're going to take care of Americans and people and get this country working, not pilfering, not stealing, not money laundering, not killing, not all the other stuff that's going on. We're going to get this country working for the American people and break them out of the slavery that they've been under and heal them And be the family that God wants us to be. It's going to be great. Think about this. Think about this. It's so exciting. I mean, it's exciting, isn't it, Karen? This is why I didn't sleep all night. I was up last night just going, oh, I'm going to be doing that. You know, it's like, this is going to be great. I was thinking about this last night. I'm going to make another movie reference for those people that can handle it. So in Hunger Games, there's this guy named Cesar Flickerman. And he is the talk show guy. And he says, this is what I was thinking last night. He says, he's got like blue hair. I mean, but not like liberal blue hair, but like... really wild. They always have wild clothes and makeup on and everything else. And he's got the brightest white teeth that you can ever imagine. And he's got the microphone and he's going to talk about the show. And he goes, this is so exciting. Well, I tell you, one of the things that I wanted to do, everybody needs to think about. What are the things that you loved when you were about seven years old that you thought that the world could be like this? And think of all the possibilities of all the creativity in your mind to change the world and to make a difference in the lives of people. I mean, you know what I want to do? This is going to sound stupid, everybody, but I want to start fish farming. Because you know what? That sounds like fun to me to figure that out, just like bees or chickens or anything else. I would love to do fish farming and have it be so that we were literally feeding our people. Do you know how easy this would be? You wouldn't have to struggle to buy groceries. The state can help. and should be. Think about the older people in our society who are absolutely having everything they've ever worked for pilfered by these absolute parasitic, worthless people that are in our elder care homes who kill them and who take their stuff and then take the stuff of their children. This is wrong. We need to be taking care of our people and enabling it to be something That we can be proud of. And you know what? Somebody who has an entrepreneurial mind, such as myself, I'll just say it, looks at all of the possibilities and goes, man, we could do all of these things and it would be amazing. It would be totally amazing. So start thinking about those things that are around the gifts that God's given you. The good things that God built in you, you and we're the best of what we're the best of the best when we're at our best, when we're serving and we're using our talents. So anyhow, I hope you guys have a great day. I'm going to have an awesome day today. It's going to be freaking epic day today. And you know what? I got to think of some more lawsuits that might need to be filed as I smile. you know and it's gonna it's gonna be great it's gonna be great he's filing lawsuits on making memes we all have our role to play yeah don is gonna be out there and and uh you know it's like the the legal beatings will stop when the behavior improves right on bad guys so if they don't turn to god well that's okay you can you can get the other end of it so that's fine So, but, but yeah, so with that said, guys, have a great day. You're part of history being made right now, just because you're alive and God put you there. He must think a lot of you, otherwise you wouldn't have been put here now. So, and that goes for all of us. Go out with a smile, make the world a better place and pay attention to other people. And let's fill some needs that need to be done because that's what we do. Anyhow, God bless you all. God bless all those whom you love and God bless America. And make it a great day. And we'll see. I might come back on tomorrow. I wasn't going to be on this week. I decided to take a rest. Until last night when I realized I was so excited I can't rest. And decided, well, I guess I'm going to be on today. And I might be on the rest of the week. So watch my channel. I think we should do a show. And I'm like, I knew it. Yeah, Karen's over there in her jammies asleep and I like wake her up and say, okay, we have to do this. I have been up since three o'clock this morning, right? And I finally got out of bed and said, why am I laying here? I'm not sleeping anyhow because I'm so freaking excited about the future that I cannot literally not sleep. So I'm going to make bread today. I got to do something because I've got way too much energy. I'll drive everybody nuts. So anyhow, I'll probably see you tomorrow. Watch my Telegram channel and have a great day, everybody. Much love. You are important and we appreciate you.